Achat nouveau vélo
by Karlo69
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
je suis sur le point d'acheter un vélo de rando ( opéré d'une hernie discale il y a 8 mois j'ai vendu tous mes vélos de route ).
quel modele me conseillez-vous pour une utilisation sur la route, avec porte bagage arr, lumière, garde-boue, confortable mais avec un peu de rendement quand même.Des étapes assez longues et du dénivelé.
Mon budget est de 2500 euros grand maxi.
Merci pour votre aide.
très content de ceux-ci, après 9000 km pour le mien et 2000 km pour celui de madame
http://www.fahrradmanufaktur.de/katalog/expedition?product_id=633
disponible en France et en Belgique
à vous de voir
Yves
pas de vent favorable pour celui qui ne sait où il va
Confucius
il semblerait que le lien ne fonctionne pas :
je ré essaye
http://www.fahrradmanufaktur.de/katalog/expedition?product_id=633
http://www.fahrradmanufaktur.de/katalog/expedition?product_id=633
pas de vent favorable pour celui qui ne sait où il va
Confucius
une première approche sur le site d'un vélociste très orienté "voyage à vélo" :
http://www.cyclo-randonnee.fr/achat/cat-velo-de-voyage-171.html
pas mal d'éléments techniques ... même indépendamment des articles en vente ...
bonne recherche
michel mathieu
www.lethieu39.fr
salut karl
je vais choquer des gens mais y a le vélo couché pour tes soucis 😉.
mon vélo equipé rando est aux alentours de ton budget
+ 1
Sur Bentokaz, en ce moment y'a un Azub 5 qui est un formidable vélo pour voyager avec ou sans problèmes de dos :
http://www.bentokaz.com/detail.php?id_velo=4934
Neuf, il vaut pratiquement le double !
je vais choquer des gens mais y a le vélo couché pour tes soucis 😉.
mon vélo equipé rando est aux alentours de ton budget
+ 1
Sur Bentokaz, en ce moment y'a un Azub 5 qui est un formidable vélo pour voyager avec ou sans problèmes de dos :
http://www.bentokaz.com/detail.php?id_velo=4934
Neuf, il vaut pratiquement le double !
You own a car, not the road !
Bonjour,
Tu as de la chance maintenant on trouve facilement des vélos de randos. Tu as deux possibilité un acheter un cadre de série chez surly vias Dom Cycle ou intec chez probiketouring(le braquet de la liberté) ou vagaboncycle. Et tu fais le montage toi même
deuxième solution acheter un vélos tout monter quelques exemples de prix gitane 800 € inter 1200€ rando-cycle 1600€ dome Bike avec surly 14000 €
voila
Salut
Pour soulager les disques vertébraux, mieux vaut un vélo sur lequel tu ne sois pas trop droit, sinon ce seront encore les disques qui risquent de supporter tous les chocs. Essaie un vélo de rando dit "randonneuse classique" ou s'en approchant, avec le cycliste plus allongé que sur certains vélos de trekking actuels : au plus une partie de ton poids reposera sur l'avant (sans avoir une position type Tour de France), au moins le dos supportera de contrainte, et avec une position plus allongée l'axe vertical (celui des ressauts de la route) est moins parallèle à la colonne vertébrale, les disques sont moins compressés. De même, il faut éviter les cales en grand nombre sous la potence, qui redressent trop le dos ; mieux vaut prendre un cadre très légèrement plus petit si l'on est peu souple.
Il est très important de trouver un vélo exactement à tes mesures et adapté à ta morphologie, et de le chausser de pneus souples et un peu plus gros que sur un route classique. Si tu passes de 23 mm à 25 voire 28 mm, tu devrais déjà ressentir un confort supérieur. Évite les pneus ultra résistants à la crevaison mais épais et rigides car dotés d'une couche de caoutchouc très importante et très peu souple. Sur la route, ils ne seront pas un plus mais gréveront le rendement tout en étant moins accrocheurs sur route mouillée, ils sont idéaux sur piste.
Si tu as accès à un vélo haut de gamme avec fourche carbone (Cyfac en fait, d'autres constructeurs aussi), ne t'en prive pas, ça réduira les vibrations.
Pour de la route, un cintre route compact sera intéressant si tu y es habitué, qu'il soit bien réglé, de la bonne largeur, et avec une potence adaptée à ta morphologie, et là une étude posturale chez un revendeur sera déterminante pour ne pas te retrouver mal positionné sur un vélo qui te supportera de nombreuses heures.
Si tu ne supportes que la position redressée des vélos de ville, équipe ton vélo d'une selle adéquate, à ressorts (Brooks) ou sur tige de selle suspendue, car au plus tu es droit au plus les efforts passent par la selle et le dos, et là autant que l'élément qui encaisse les déformations soit la selle et non les disques.
Bonne chance dans ta recherche, essaie obligatoirement le vélo avant de l'acheter, le meilleur vélo du monde sur lequel tu ne serais pas bien positionné deviendrait une torture.
Pour soulager les disques vertébraux, mieux vaut un vélo sur lequel tu ne sois pas trop droit, sinon ce seront encore les disques qui risquent de supporter tous les chocs. Essaie un vélo de rando dit "randonneuse classique" ou s'en approchant, avec le cycliste plus allongé que sur certains vélos de trekking actuels : au plus une partie de ton poids reposera sur l'avant (sans avoir une position type Tour de France), au moins le dos supportera de contrainte, et avec une position plus allongée l'axe vertical (celui des ressauts de la route) est moins parallèle à la colonne vertébrale, les disques sont moins compressés. De même, il faut éviter les cales en grand nombre sous la potence, qui redressent trop le dos ; mieux vaut prendre un cadre très légèrement plus petit si l'on est peu souple.
Il est très important de trouver un vélo exactement à tes mesures et adapté à ta morphologie, et de le chausser de pneus souples et un peu plus gros que sur un route classique. Si tu passes de 23 mm à 25 voire 28 mm, tu devrais déjà ressentir un confort supérieur. Évite les pneus ultra résistants à la crevaison mais épais et rigides car dotés d'une couche de caoutchouc très importante et très peu souple. Sur la route, ils ne seront pas un plus mais gréveront le rendement tout en étant moins accrocheurs sur route mouillée, ils sont idéaux sur piste.
Si tu as accès à un vélo haut de gamme avec fourche carbone (Cyfac en fait, d'autres constructeurs aussi), ne t'en prive pas, ça réduira les vibrations.
Pour de la route, un cintre route compact sera intéressant si tu y es habitué, qu'il soit bien réglé, de la bonne largeur, et avec une potence adaptée à ta morphologie, et là une étude posturale chez un revendeur sera déterminante pour ne pas te retrouver mal positionné sur un vélo qui te supportera de nombreuses heures.
Si tu ne supportes que la position redressée des vélos de ville, équipe ton vélo d'une selle adéquate, à ressorts (Brooks) ou sur tige de selle suspendue, car au plus tu es droit au plus les efforts passent par la selle et le dos, et là autant que l'élément qui encaisse les déformations soit la selle et non les disques.
Bonne chance dans ta recherche, essaie obligatoirement le vélo avant de l'acheter, le meilleur vélo du monde sur lequel tu ne serais pas bien positionné deviendrait une torture.
Pas de deuxième vague en Europe : https://tinyurl.com/y5ytqzej
Salut karl 🙂
Alors moi aussi j'ai longuement hésiter pour l achat d'un vélo ..jai opté le cyclo rando sur cette page http://www.cyclo-randonnee.fr/velo-cyclo-randonnee-198/velo-cyclo-randonnee-deore-1394.html
Plusieurs critère rentre en compte :
le prix ( et encore pas besoin d une ferrari pour faire pour se la pété , avec un vélo a 1500 eu tu peut faire 20000 km facil ) la transmition ( moyeu rohloff ou dérailleur normal chacun y voit l’intérêt la dessus ) A savoir un moyeu rohloff faut que tu compte facil plus 500 eu de + q'une transmission normal La taille des roues (26 ou 28 " ton choix dependra de ou tu compte tu voyager ) Cadre acier ou alu tel est la question( Pareil cela est un choix a prendre en sachant que l'alu ne se répare pas au fond de l'Asie centrale )
Moi ce que je peut te conseiller c'est de faire une étude postural pour qu'il puisse te trouver un cadre adapter a ta physionomie .. Après tu as le choix du vélo couché qui peut etre pas mal mais cela reste trop chèr pour moi Ou dernière soluce tu te monte ton vélo toi même pièce après pièce
pour monter ton vélo toi mème tu as les cadre surly ..Le prix peuvent aller de 300 eu a 500 eu et les cadres intec http://www.probiketouring.com/produit/intec-m1 tu en as dautre si tu cherche bien ..
Pour le vélo tout fait ( clé en main ) voila une petite liste si cela peut t'aider
http://www.fahrradmanufaktur.de/katalog/index.php?route=product/category&path=14
le configurateur de construction de ton vélo koga ( lors de ton choix des composants le prix est marqué en bas a droite ) http://www.koga-signature.com/Build-Your-Own-Bike.aspx?language=fr
les cyclo randonnée ( transmission normal et transmission moyeu ) http://www.cyclo-randonnee.fr/achat/cat-velo-cyclo-randonnee-198.html
Mon choix de vélo s'est porté sur le cyclo rando transmission normal pour plusieurs raison
le prix ( 1500 eu ) la qualité du matos ( sauf les roulement interne du pedalier a changer par du hope ou Ck pour être tranquille ) Velo pret pour des milliers de km
voila encore quelque site
http://vagabondecycles.com/ http://www.lesvelosdepatrick.com/ http://www.rando-cycles.com/ http://www.fr.tout-terrain.de/
Voila jespere que cela va taider
Cordialement
Nicolas
Alors moi aussi j'ai longuement hésiter pour l achat d'un vélo ..jai opté le cyclo rando sur cette page http://www.cyclo-randonnee.fr/velo-cyclo-randonnee-198/velo-cyclo-randonnee-deore-1394.html
Plusieurs critère rentre en compte :
le prix ( et encore pas besoin d une ferrari pour faire pour se la pété , avec un vélo a 1500 eu tu peut faire 20000 km facil ) la transmition ( moyeu rohloff ou dérailleur normal chacun y voit l’intérêt la dessus ) A savoir un moyeu rohloff faut que tu compte facil plus 500 eu de + q'une transmission normal La taille des roues (26 ou 28 " ton choix dependra de ou tu compte tu voyager ) Cadre acier ou alu tel est la question( Pareil cela est un choix a prendre en sachant que l'alu ne se répare pas au fond de l'Asie centrale )
Moi ce que je peut te conseiller c'est de faire une étude postural pour qu'il puisse te trouver un cadre adapter a ta physionomie .. Après tu as le choix du vélo couché qui peut etre pas mal mais cela reste trop chèr pour moi Ou dernière soluce tu te monte ton vélo toi même pièce après pièce
pour monter ton vélo toi mème tu as les cadre surly ..Le prix peuvent aller de 300 eu a 500 eu et les cadres intec http://www.probiketouring.com/produit/intec-m1 tu en as dautre si tu cherche bien ..
Pour le vélo tout fait ( clé en main ) voila une petite liste si cela peut t'aider
http://www.fahrradmanufaktur.de/katalog/index.php?route=product/category&path=14
le configurateur de construction de ton vélo koga ( lors de ton choix des composants le prix est marqué en bas a droite ) http://www.koga-signature.com/Build-Your-Own-Bike.aspx?language=fr
les cyclo randonnée ( transmission normal et transmission moyeu ) http://www.cyclo-randonnee.fr/achat/cat-velo-cyclo-randonnee-198.html
Mon choix de vélo s'est porté sur le cyclo rando transmission normal pour plusieurs raison
le prix ( 1500 eu ) la qualité du matos ( sauf les roulement interne du pedalier a changer par du hope ou Ck pour être tranquille ) Velo pret pour des milliers de km
voila encore quelque site
http://vagabondecycles.com/ http://www.lesvelosdepatrick.com/ http://www.rando-cycles.com/ http://www.fr.tout-terrain.de/
Voila jespere que cela va taider
Cordialement
Nicolas
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Ne le prends pas mal, mais l'insistance que peuvent avoir les adeptes du vélo couché à faire de la pub pour un modèle très particulier de vélo qui n'est pas adapté à toutes les situations (ville avec circulation, route encombrée avec des camions, montées raides, pistes ou chemins très cabossés demandant un pilotage précis, cycliste habitant en appartement sans ascenseur, etc.) est lassant.
L'immense majorité des cyclistes sur vélo droit n'a aucune pathologie douloureuse et n'a pas envie de passer au vélo couché. Il est donc très déplacé pour moi d'associer vélo droit et ta remarque "pourquoi en voulez-vous tous autant à votre corps pour lui infliger tant de tortures".
Voir régulièrement les adeptes du vélo couché (et ceux du moyeu Rohloff quand on parle plateau, dérailleur, cassette) intervenir dans une discussion pour faire la promotion de leur matériel plutôt que de répondre à la question posée est un "parasitisme de post" qui à la longue est assez gênant. Je ne fréquente quasiment plus le forum, lassé de voir des réponses qui n'en sont pas mais sont de la promotion pour un matériel. On se croirait sur d'autres forums de vélo où certains accro maladifs de matériel cher, victimes de notre société de consommation et de leur faiblesse ne viennent que pour poster des photos et faire les beaux avec leurs trucs hyper chers, dernier cri et censés révolutionner le cyclisme.
Je dis cela en étant convaincu que dans certaines circonstances, le vélo couché est une très bonne solution.
Vous avez dépensé beaucoup d'argent pour du matériel sur lequel vous avez rêvé longtemps, vous aimeriez vous convaincre et convaincre les autres que votre argent n'a pas été dépensé en vain et que votre matériel est celui de ceux qui ont tout compris, ok, mais faites-le dans des sujets consacrés à ce type de vélos. Ici on a juste un cycliste qui a 2 500 € maxi pour avoir le vélo de randonnée et les accessoires, et qui ne questionne pas les membres du forum au sujet des vélos couchés.
Désolé si ma réponse te semble abrupte, mais pour moi elle l'est beaucoup moins que la régulière insistance des adeptes du vélo couché à proposer leur solution là où elle n'est pas envisagée par le demandeur.
En attendant de voir un un membre venir dire à Karlo69 qu'avec un cadre titane, des pneus tubeless sur roues avec roulement céramique, un cuissard Assos ou une selle en cuir de kangourou tout irait mieux.
L'immense majorité des cyclistes sur vélo droit n'a aucune pathologie douloureuse et n'a pas envie de passer au vélo couché. Il est donc très déplacé pour moi d'associer vélo droit et ta remarque "pourquoi en voulez-vous tous autant à votre corps pour lui infliger tant de tortures".
Voir régulièrement les adeptes du vélo couché (et ceux du moyeu Rohloff quand on parle plateau, dérailleur, cassette) intervenir dans une discussion pour faire la promotion de leur matériel plutôt que de répondre à la question posée est un "parasitisme de post" qui à la longue est assez gênant. Je ne fréquente quasiment plus le forum, lassé de voir des réponses qui n'en sont pas mais sont de la promotion pour un matériel. On se croirait sur d'autres forums de vélo où certains accro maladifs de matériel cher, victimes de notre société de consommation et de leur faiblesse ne viennent que pour poster des photos et faire les beaux avec leurs trucs hyper chers, dernier cri et censés révolutionner le cyclisme.
Je dis cela en étant convaincu que dans certaines circonstances, le vélo couché est une très bonne solution.
Vous avez dépensé beaucoup d'argent pour du matériel sur lequel vous avez rêvé longtemps, vous aimeriez vous convaincre et convaincre les autres que votre argent n'a pas été dépensé en vain et que votre matériel est celui de ceux qui ont tout compris, ok, mais faites-le dans des sujets consacrés à ce type de vélos. Ici on a juste un cycliste qui a 2 500 € maxi pour avoir le vélo de randonnée et les accessoires, et qui ne questionne pas les membres du forum au sujet des vélos couchés.
Désolé si ma réponse te semble abrupte, mais pour moi elle l'est beaucoup moins que la régulière insistance des adeptes du vélo couché à proposer leur solution là où elle n'est pas envisagée par le demandeur.
En attendant de voir un un membre venir dire à Karlo69 qu'avec un cadre titane, des pneus tubeless sur roues avec roulement céramique, un cuissard Assos ou une selle en cuir de kangourou tout irait mieux.
Pas de deuxième vague en Europe : https://tinyurl.com/y5ytqzej
lionnel ne le prends pas mal non plus mais la question de depart est de trouver un vélo qui soulage le dos suite a hernie disquale donc, ma reponse est tout a fais dans le fil du sujet, je ne fais pas la promo de mon vélo, je me moque totalement de qui je pourrais convaincre, je m'en sort tres bien dans toutes les situation que ce soit en ville en piste etc.., contrairement a toi j'ai roulé sur vélo droit et couché et je sais de quoi je parle, j'avais egalement des soucis de dos et tout c'est envolé avec le velo couché, donc je suis totalement dans le fil du sujet , meme si cela te deplait. je ne rentrerais pas dans une discution stérile et je m'adresse dans mes reponses uniquement a la personne qui demande les renseignements, pas a toi , j'ai juste cliqué sur repondre en face du dernier message donc ne prends pas pour toi mes reponses , juste celle ci 😉
enfin ne te fatigue pas a repondre a mon message je m'en moque totalement, mon seul souci je le repete est de repondre a l'auteur du post, qui d'ailleur ne prends meme pas le temps de repondre a nos message y compris le tiens 😉.
olivier
enfin ne te fatigue pas a repondre a mon message je m'en moque totalement, mon seul souci je le repete est de repondre a l'auteur du post, qui d'ailleur ne prends meme pas le temps de repondre a nos message y compris le tiens 😉.
olivier
Ne le prends pas mal, mais l'insistance que peuvent avoir les adeptes du vélo couché à faire de la pub pour un modèle très particulier de vélo qui n'est pas adapté à toutes les situations (ville avec circulation, route encombrée avec des camions, montées raides, pistes ou chemins très cabossés demandant un pilotage précis, cycliste habitant en appartement sans ascenseur, etc.) est lassant.
Pas tant que la désinformation à ce sujet, faite par des gens qui n'ont visiblement jamais essayé. M'enfin ce n'est pas bien grave, vu je tiens trop à mon statut de mec le plus cool de l'univers, pour avoir envie de voir le vélo couché se démocratiser 😛
Désolé si ma réponse te semble abrupte, mais pour moi elle l'est beaucoup moins que la régulière insistance des adeptes du vélo couché à proposer leur solution là où elle n'est pas envisagée par le demandeur.
Les adeptes du vélo couché comme vous dites, on doit être 4 ou 5 à trainer par ici sur des centaines de membres. Aussi, je vous trouve un brin parano si je puis me permettre.
Pas tant que la désinformation à ce sujet, faite par des gens qui n'ont visiblement jamais essayé. M'enfin ce n'est pas bien grave, vu je tiens trop à mon statut de mec le plus cool de l'univers, pour avoir envie de voir le vélo couché se démocratiser 😛
Désolé si ma réponse te semble abrupte, mais pour moi elle l'est beaucoup moins que la régulière insistance des adeptes du vélo couché à proposer leur solution là où elle n'est pas envisagée par le demandeur.
Les adeptes du vélo couché comme vous dites, on doit être 4 ou 5 à trainer par ici sur des centaines de membres. Aussi, je vous trouve un brin parano si je puis me permettre.
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I plan to start around Temuco in Chile, with the idea of heading toward the lakes, then taking the Carretera Austral. I’m not sure if I’ll go all the way to Ushuaia—it’s supposed to not be *that* worth it, except for the bragging rights of saying you’ve been to the end of the world.
I saw there are lakes in Argentina too.
I don’t have a precise itinerary, but what I’d love is, once I reach the southernmost point of my trip, to take a mini-cruise to see some wildlife. Any tips for that?
What kind of sleeping bag did you take? Is a 0°C (32°F) one enough? And one last question: white gas stove or can I get by with my gas stove?
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Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
I wanted to share with you the incredible feat my friend José, who’s 72 years old, is currently undertaking. He left Auterive near Toulouse on Monday, May 18, 2026, on his non-electric bike, heading for the North Cape in Norway!
You can follow his route on the link below—he’s currently in Sweden:
https://thierry-thomas.travelmap.net/jose-de-toulouse-a-nord-cap-2026
You can zoom in on the map and click on each stopover town to see the photos
Hi there!
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
Hi there, we’re a group of 4 cyclists looking to get from Treviso in Italy to Munich with our 4 non-folding bikes. It seems complicated! Are there any solutions? Thanks so much.
hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

Hi, I'm looking for a Pino tandem bike for sale in Quebec and I can't find any. Does anyone have any info, please? Thanks a bunch!
Hi there, we’re planning a Munich to Venice bike trip at the end of June 2026. Getting back from Venice to Toulouse by train with 4 bikes isn’t straightforward. What return options have others who’ve done this trip chosen? Any tips or great deals would be much appreciated. Thanks a bunch! !
Hi everyone,
Happy owner of a Pegasus Estremo bike with a Rohloff hub, which is giving me trouble with the SF11-NCX-FT-E-LITE 700C TS 300/0 fork (serial number TD01329060). It’s starting to show its age, and I’d like to repair it to extend the life of my beloved bike.
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Thanks for your help! Have a great day, Alexandre
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Thanks for your help! Have a great day, Alexandre
Hi, I'd like to know if anyone has done this route recently or has reliable info.
Does the track exist, and most importantly, is there sand (for biking)?
Any info is welcome.
Cheers,
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
Hi there,
New to bike touring,
I’d love to start with a section of the Via Rhona to explore and share (route to be decided).
Looking forward to exchanging tips!
hey everyone,
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
A big thank you to Lazarou for all the info you share in this forum!
I'm passionate about Morocco, which I cycled through back in 2009.
Last year, my wife and I explored the High Atlas by tandem. Completely smitten, we're heading back in April (Anti Atlas) and May (High and Middle Atlas), still on our tandem.
Do you have any info on the track between Amezri and Ali Ait Nito? Are the river crossings in the Tessaout still there? It's not easy to navigate with a loaded tandem... especially if the river level is high due to this year's heavy snowmelt!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
A shout-out to a cycling colleague from Savoie
Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php

The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php


The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

Tout d'abord... bonne année ! De belles routes à vous en 2017 !
Je voyage depuis quelques années avec un VTT de très bonne qualité mais équipé de freins à disques hydrauliques. Je vis (pédale) avec l'inquiétude d'avoir une panne (fuite, bulle d'air, chaleur qui fait que le liquide...). Mon vélociste me dit qu'il est impossible de les changer pour des V brakes.
Qu'en pensez-vous ? Est-ce que je prends un gros risque à continuer (seule) avec ces freins ? D'avance je vous remercie pour vos bonnes idées.
Hi everyone,
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
I’m planning the route to cycle from Lille to Nordkapp with my partner.
Duration: 3 months, from May 1st to July 31st, 2026.
In the attached details below, I need to add some "non-riding" days (rest days, basically).
So I’m looking to "shorten" the trip by taking ferries or trains for some stretches. Which areas could I skip?
Thanks in advance for your great tips.
Have a good evening.
https://www.komoot.com/fr-fr/collection/4023980/-lille-cap-nord-1er-mai-au-31-juillet-2026?ref=collection
Hi there,
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
Hi, has anyone recently bought Primus or Butagaz gas, possibly puncture-style, in Dubrovnik or the surrounding area? Same question for Albania... thanks. aichatou
Hi there,
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Hi there,
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
Hi! I’m planning to visit the Stockholm Archipelago by bike in early April.
Do you know if the boats will be running between the different islands at that time of year? For those who’ve already been, all your tips and recommendations are welcome—accommodation, etc. Also, do you know where I can rent a bike in Stockholm? Thanks so much in advance for your help!
Hello there, pedal-powered Young Boys!
Claudio (still from Faverges)
dreaming about a cycling getaway in Italy from Faverges (train all the way to Turin)
from Turin down to Venice along the Po River and back via the Padana (Alta Italia da attraversare – Northern Italy to cross)
The tricky part is getting from Chioggia to Venice.
I read it’s possible by hopping on a boat from island to island,
but it sounds a bit stressful.
Has anyone already tackled this route?
Thanks, and cheers to all! http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/Padania/
Claudio
Thanks, and cheers to all! http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/Padania/
Claudio

Hi there,
I’m currently looking for a bike to do my first bike trip across France, with the ultimate goal of cycling through Latin America. I’ve got a lot of questions and I’d love to hear if you have any answers or advice to share. First off, I’ve been through this before with hiking. I want to get top-quality gear right away. When I started hiking, I ended up buying everything three times—first beginner gear, then intermediate, then expert, etc. For biking, I’d prefer to skip that process and invest right now in a bike that could ideally handle Latin America. I’ve set a total max budget of around 5000 € (roughly 4000–4500 € for the bike and the rest for accessories: panniers, helmet, cycling shorts, etc.).
So, I’ve got quite a few questions:
* I’ve read in several places that some people recommend buying the bike directly in Latin America. Since I need a first bike to train in Europe, would it be better to buy an entry-level bike in France (and sell it before the big departure)? Or is it preferable to start right away with my final bike to get used to it? Is buying it there just to save a bit of money?
* For a long-term trip (around six months) in Latin America, is it better to go for a gravel bike or a mountain bike?
* Should I buy a new bike or a refurbished one? Even more so given that I’m planning a long trip—could a refurbished bike end up causing more breakdowns?
If you have any advice on models, technical features to prioritize, or recommended sellers or resellers, I’d love to hear it. I’m a total beginner—I’ve only just started watching videos and reading up on the subject, and all the technical specs are new to me!
Thanks in advance for your help!
I’m currently looking for a bike to do my first bike trip across France, with the ultimate goal of cycling through Latin America. I’ve got a lot of questions and I’d love to hear if you have any answers or advice to share. First off, I’ve been through this before with hiking. I want to get top-quality gear right away. When I started hiking, I ended up buying everything three times—first beginner gear, then intermediate, then expert, etc. For biking, I’d prefer to skip that process and invest right now in a bike that could ideally handle Latin America. I’ve set a total max budget of around 5000 € (roughly 4000–4500 € for the bike and the rest for accessories: panniers, helmet, cycling shorts, etc.).
So, I’ve got quite a few questions:
* I’ve read in several places that some people recommend buying the bike directly in Latin America. Since I need a first bike to train in Europe, would it be better to buy an entry-level bike in France (and sell it before the big departure)? Or is it preferable to start right away with my final bike to get used to it? Is buying it there just to save a bit of money?
* For a long-term trip (around six months) in Latin America, is it better to go for a gravel bike or a mountain bike?
* Should I buy a new bike or a refurbished one? Even more so given that I’m planning a long trip—could a refurbished bike end up causing more breakdowns?
If you have any advice on models, technical features to prioritize, or recommended sellers or resellers, I’d love to hear it. I’m a total beginner—I’ve only just started watching videos and reading up on the subject, and all the technical specs are new to me!
Thanks in advance for your help!
Calling all travelers.
We’ll be landing at Lyon Airport and want to bike to La Verpillière train station (with panniers and camping gear, etc.) to catch a TER to Voreppe.
What’s the safest route for this bike trip?
Thanks in advance
hi,
I'm planning a recumbent bike trip from the Pyrenees to Greece. On the EuroVelo 8 route, it doesn't specify the path through the Alps.
Are there any experienced cyclists here who can tell me where they go to avoid climbing too high?
Also, is there another traveler/bike forum better suited for broadening the responses?
thanks