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Billy0013

RegularMarseille · 76 posts

2015-07-22

Bonsoir,

Déjà avant toute chose, ce n'est pas Athènes, vous n'aurez pas de manifestation (j'ai lu que c'était dangereux d'aller en Grèce). La seule chose que vous pouvez voir c'est la queue dans certaines banques (surtout dans les grandes villes et encore...). Donc aucun risque pour les touristes (pas de limitation d'argent pour les touristes).

Après Santorin, l'an dernier, à l'automne dernier Athènes, je suis parti avec ma compagne en Crète au départ de Marseille - Heraklion (vol direct : 2h45) pour environ 300 euros aller / retour pour 2 du 28 juin au 12 juillet 2015.

Pour la Crète, on a ADORE !! A part les russes 😉 (c'est l'île aux russes). Non sans rire, c'est magnifique, les gens là-bas sont très gentil. Les plages, les sites touristiques (les palais, les églises, les monastères...) sont extras. Bref, j'ai mis beaucoup de suggestions (visites et restaurants, JE N'AI BIEN ÉVIDEMMENT PAS PU TOUT FAIRE ET TOUT TESTE (j'y ai droit à chaque fois en commentaire...des ab..tis qui ne savent pas quoi mettre comme commentaire alors ils critiquent 🤪)...forcement en 15 jours, mais ça me donnera l'occasion d'y retourner très certainement) et à la fin, j'ai mis mon programme par jour et le principal ...les photos (des images valent parfois mieux qu'un discours). J'ai logé 7 nuits dans un hotel à l'ouest (Agia Marina), 3 nuits à l'Est entre Agios Nikolaos et Sitia et 4 nuit au centre proche d'Heraklion. Le tout en voiture de location !

Décalage horaire Il y a un décalage horaire d’une heure entre la France et la Grèce. Quand il est 13 h 00 en France, il est 14 h 00 en Grèce.

Téléphone - Pour téléphoner en Grèce depuis la France, il faut composer le 00 30 suivi du numéro du correspondant. - Pour téléphoner depuis la Grèce vers la France, il faut composer le 00 33 suivi du numéro du correspondant (sans le premier chiffre 0).

Location de voitures http://www.europeocars.com/ http://www.autoway.gr/ http://www.rentalcars.com http://www.gorentacar.gr/en/ http://www.justrentals.gr http://www.economycarrentals.com (retenu). 400 euros pour Toyota Yaris 14 jours (assurance et franchise comprise).

Hôtels Ouest : du 28 juin au 5 juillet 2015 (7 nuits)

Iolida Star (Amoma) Agia Marina Chania 73014 Tél : +30 2821 083618

Est : du 5 juillet au 8 juillet 2015 (3 nuits)

Cressa Ghitonia Village (voyages privés) Sfaka, Sfáka, 72057 Tél : +30 2843 029040

Centre : du 8 juillet au 12 juillet 2015 (4 nuits)

CHC Sea Side Resort & Spa (voyages-sncf) en all inclusive Mononaftis Area Agia Pelagia Malevizi 71500 Tél : +30 281 081 1000

Ouest de l’île Curiosités et plages

- Ville et plage de Rethymnon : Citadelle Fortetza (payant : 4 euros par adulte, ouvert l’été jusqu’à 20h), Port vénitien, Place et église des 4 martyrs, Fontaine Rimondi, Lotzia (Au coin des rues d'Arkadiou et de Palaiologou), Église San Fransisco, Mosquée Neratze, Mosquée Kara Moussa Passa (Au bout de la rue d'Arkadiou), Mosquée Veli Passa, Porta Guora (Grande Porte Au début de la rue d’ Ethnikis Antistaseos), le jardin municipal (rue de Kountourioti), la loggia. - Plage de Skinaria Beach à Plakias (Cordonnées GPS : 35.188628 / 24.398178) - Moni Piso Preveli (monastère) (Cordonnées GPS : 35.158078 / 24.456966). Entrée : 2,50 euros (robe prêtée à l’entrée pour les femmes). Attention aux horaires (on est arrivé à 13 h, le monastère réouvrait à 15 h). - Plage de Palm beach et la forêt de palmiers entrée gratuite mais parking payant (Cordonnées GPS : 35.154007 / 24.470354) - Lac naturel deKournas (Cordonnées GPS : 35.332923 / 24.280402) - Plage de Georgioupolis et l’église St Nicolas (Cordonnées GPS : 35.364156 / 24.261664) - Plage Sweetwater (sauvage : 20 minutes à pied) (Cordonnées GPS : 35.201869 / 24.117533) - Plage de Marathi et baie de Souda (Cordonnées GPS : 35.505741 / 24.175753) - Plage de Seitan Limania (Cordonnées GPS : 35.551336 / 24.192442) - La ville de Chania (se prononce « Hania » La Canée) : le port et phare vénitiens, fortifications vénitiennes, arsenaux vénitiens, casa Delphino, Basilique San Fracisco, Eglise vénitienne Saint-Marc, fontaines, parc municipal, tombes minoennes. Pour info : gare routière à l’angle de la rue Kidonias et la rue Kelaidi http://bus-service-crete.com/ et les cartes http://bus-service-crete.com/maps3han.html#HAN1 - Gorges de Samaria (entrée du parc de 13 km : 5 euros) : départ à partir d’Omalos : Agia Roumeli - Sougia en bâteau 8,50 euros tarif groupe) et Sougia - Chania en bus Ferries : http://www.anendyk.gr/pages/en/company.php?lang=EN 13 km de parc et 3 km de la fin du parc au bâteau Agia Roumeli (possibilité de prendre une navette à 1,5 euros pour les 3 km restants) Récupéré à l’hôtel le matin à 5 h 45 et reposé à l’hotel le soir 19 h 30 : http://www.viator.com/tours/Heraklion/Full-Day-Tour-to-Samaria-Gorge/d961-2462SAMA - Arbre de Vouves et son musée à 6 km de Kamisiana (Cordonnées GPS : 35.486812 / 23.786799) dit arbre olympique, olivier de 3000 ans - Village et port de Kissamos - Plage de Phalasarna (Falassarna) (Cordonnées GPS : 35.495032 / 23.582019) - Lagon de Balos (7 km de piste et 2,2 km à pied ou à dos d’âne). 2 euros pour une voiture et deux personnes. (Cordonnées GPS : 35.586183 / 23.598668) et l’île de Gramvoussa depuis Kissamos avec la compagnie « Balos Cruises ». - Elafonissi (très belle plage type caribéenne) en bateau à partir de Paleochora (Cordonnées GPS : 35.272022 / 23.542339)

Restaurants

Castelo, Rethymno 27, Arabatzoglou str., Rethymnon Tel : +30 28310 50567

Zefyros Family Fish Taverna (poissons), Nearchou 41 (Old Harbour), Réthymnon Tel : +30 2831 028206

MeNou & Krasi, Akti Papanikoli Haou, La Canée Tel : +30 2821 090144

Tavern Strata, ortou 54 | Old Venetian Harbor, La Canée Tel : +30 2821 093830

To Stachi, 5 Defkalionos St | 73134, La Canée Tel : +30 2821 042589

Akrogiali Taverna, Akti Papanikoli 19, La Canée Tel : +30 2821 073110

To Maridaki (poissons), Daskaloyannis 33 & Kallinikou Sarpaki | Splantzia, La Canée Tel : +30 2821 008880

Tavern Strata (moussaka), Portou 54 | Old Venetian Harbor, La Canée Tel : +30 2821 093830

To XANI, Parodos Kondilaki Street | Old Venetian Port, La Canée Tel : +30 2821 075795

Chrisostomos, Defkalionos & Ikarou, La Canée Tel : +30 2821 057035

Christianna Estiatorio, Akti Miaouli 14 | Koum-Kapi, La Canée Tel : +30 697 598 3575

Raeti Taverna Restaurant, Agia Marina 127, Agia Marina Tel : +30 2821 068212

Manolis Taverna-Restaurant, Upper Agia Marina, Old Village Square, Agia Marina Tel : +30 697 481 4737

Ear Restaurant Caffee, PEO Kissamou Chanion, Agia Marina Tel : +30 2821 060440

Mitsos Restaurant, Agia Marina, Chania | Crete, Agia Marina Tel : +30 2821 068494

Nymfi Restaurant, Agia marina, Agia Marina Tel : +30 694 498 1312

Horiatiko, Agia Marina, Chania | Chania, Agia Marina Tel : +30 2821 068653

Lottos Restaurant (pizza), Agia Marina Tel : +30 28210 60212

Nostos Restaurant, Agia Marina, Agia Marina Tel : +30 694 635 4068

Agia Marina Restaurant, The Center, Agia Marina Tel : +30 2821 060714

Stelios & Katina, Mavros Molos Beach | Agamemnonos 47, Kissamos Tel : +30 2822 023166 En route pour Balos : Gramboussa, Gramboussa Kissamou, Kaliviani, Kissamos Tel : +30 2822 022707

Plage de Phalasarna : Vassilis Taverna - Cafe Bar, Akti Platanou, Falassarna Tel : +30 28220 41529

Tavern Spilios, Falassarna Tel : +30 2822 041010

Desserts - Giaourti Greek Frozen Yogurt Bar, 2 Karaoli & Dimitriou St., La Canée - Delizia Gelato Italiano, Chalidon 13, La Canée - A La Crepe Chania, 14 Old Port | Eleftheriou Venizelou Square 14, La Canée - Frozen Yogurt To Pagotaki, Sarpidonos 10, La Canée - Yogurtlandia Chania, Daskalogianni 35 & Sarpaki | Old Town Chania, La Canée - Pasteleria de Dana, Isodion st. Old harbour, La Canée - Kormoranos Bakery Cafe, Theotokopoulou 46, La Canée

Est de l’île Curiosités et plages

- Site archéologique : Palais de Malia (Cordonnées GPS : 35.293402 / 25.491945) - Ile de Spinalonga et sa forteresse Entrée : 2 euros. En bâteau depuis Plaka (8 euros aller / retour, le moins cher et le plus proche. Rotation toutes les 30 minutes), Elounda ou Agions Nikolaos (Cordonnées GPS : 35.297894 / 25.737727) - Agios Nikolaos - Eglise byzantine de Panagia Kera (Cordonnées GPS : 35.156772 / 25.655162). Entrée : 2 euros. Attention elle ferme à 15 h et après faudra revenir le jour suivant ! - Plateau du Lassithi (La vallée des 1000 moulins) avec les villes Pinakiano, Tzermiado, Marmaketo, Konstantinos, AG. Georgios, Avrakontes, Kainaki, Ag. Charalampos. Moulins du musée homo sapiens (Cordonnées GPS : 35.215551 / 25.460714) - Grotte de Psychro où naquit Zeus (Cordonnées GPS : 35.16495 / 25.450881) - Plage de Paralia Voulisma à proximité d’Istro (Cordonnées GPS : 35.125314 / 25.742759) - Ile de Chrissi (sud-est de la Crète) avec la golden beach (coquillages roses) ou en cas de vent, des petites criques vers l’est de Ierapetra. Départ en bateau depuis la ville de Ierapetra Le capitaine Kostas Tel : 003069 4279 1474 (45 euros par adulte la journée, boisson et nourriture comprise) http://bateaucrete.canalblog.com/archives/2008/03/17/10329747.html - Ville de Sitia et son port - Monastère de Toplou (Cordonnées GPS : 35.221542 / 26.215969). Entrée : 3 euros (pour les femmes, une robe ou serviette est prêtée pour couvrir les jambes) - Village de Palékastro - Plage de Vaï (bordée d’une palmeraie). Parking : 2,5 euros. 2 Transats + parasol à 9 euros. Moins cher après 16 h. Possibilité de prendre des transats sans parasol et se mettre à l’ombre de palmiers (Cordonnées GPS : 35.252887 / 26.264832) - Gorges de Hohlakiès (proche de Kamara) et plage de Karoumes au bout. - Palais de Zakros (Cordonnées GPS : 35.097896 / 26.262925) - Plage d’Ambelos (une des plus belle plage) (Cordonnées GPS : 35.036443 / 26.219395)

Restaurants

Eva Taverna, Emm. Tsagkaraki St. | Malia Port Area, Malia Tel : +30 28970 31817

The House - Steak House Restaurant, Mathaiou Zaxariadi 53 | Malia Tel : +30 697 271 4515

Milos, G. Lapidis 9 | Old Town, Malia Tel : +30 28970 33150

Taverna Cafe Kronio, Tzermadio Tel : +30 2844 02237

Ferryman Taverna, Akti, Elounda Tel : + 30 28410 41230

Lotus Eaters, Seafront | 250meters From Main Square, Keeping the Sea to Your Left, Elounda Tel : +30 28410 41538

Ergospasio restaurant, 5, Oloundos street, Elounda Tel : +30 2841 042082

Babel, Akti Vritomartidos, Elounda Tel : +30 2841 042336

The Hope, 72053 Elounda Tel : +30 697 229 5150

Taverna Paliria, Main Road-Plaka, Plaka, Elounda, Tel : +30 28410 42120

Piato (poissons), Minoos 5 - Ammoudi Beach (At the End of ''Akti Koundourou''), Agios Nikolaos Tel : +30 2841 023173

Patriko (poissons), Minoos 11 Anoudi Beach | Anoudi Beach, Agios Nikolaos Tel : +30 2841 021284

Amalthea Restaurant, Akti Pagalou 17, Kitroplatia, Agios Nikolaos Tel : +30 28410 21801

Avra Restaurant, Ammoudi Beach, Agios Nikolaos Tel : +30 28410 22530

Chrisofyllis (poissons scropion fish), Akti Pagalou, Kitroplatia, Agios Nikolaos Tel : +30 28410 22705

Cafe Dimitris, Bord de Mer, Mochlos Tel : +30 3069 45367035 The Balcony, 19, Fountalidou St., Siteia Tel : +30 697 300 2281

Vai Restaurant Palm Beach, Vai Crete Tel : +30 2843 061129

Zorbas, Markopoulou 55, Ierapetra Tel : +30 2842 028542

Restaurant Giorgos Fish Tavern, Kriti, Kalamaki, Ierapetra Tel : +30 2892 045311

Desserts - Gelato.It, Akti Stilianou Koundourou 12, Agios Nikolaos - To kafedaki (donuts), Konstantinou Karamanli 43, Agios Nikolaos - O Krepas - The Crepe Man, 20 Akti Stilianoy Koundourou, Agios Nikolaos

Centre de l’île Curiosités et plages

- Heraklion : le port et la forteresse (en travaux actuellement) et les remparts vénitiens, arsenaux, la Plateia Venizelou et sa fontaine Morosini (fontaine des lions), la fontaine Bembo en travaux actuellement (Plateia Kornarou), les 4 portes : Malus dans le port, Porte St Georges, Pantocrator et Jésus, le musée archéologique avec son entrée à 6 euros (possibilité de combiner le ticket avec le palais Knossos), l’hôtel de ville : la loggia, église Saint-Marc, Platia Eleftherias, cathédrale Agios Minas) - Site archéologique Palais de Knossos (Cordonnées GPS : 35.298267 / 25.161317). Entrée : 6 euros et guide en français : 10 euros (par personne) que l'on a pris pour les explications (très intéressantes). Possibilité d’un guide privé pour la modique somme de 80 euros 😛 - Monastère Moni Savvathianon (Cordonnées GPS : 35.374175 / 25.003852). Entrée gratuite (une vieille dame qui tenait la boutique nous a offert des loukoums) - Plage Ligaria (Cordonnées GPS : 35.399248 / 25.026088) - Eglise de Panagia (église byzantine) (Cordonnées GPS : 35.385779 / 24.951914). Entrée gratuite malgré la présence d’une personne à l’entrée (demandez-lui comment était l’église quand on l’a découvert, elle a des photos d’époque). - Monastère médiéval d’Agarathos (le plus ancien de Crète : Moni Agarathou) (Cordonnées GPS : 35.227256 / 25.249664) - 2 petits ports Panormos et Bali - Plage de Karavostasi (proche de Bali) (Cordonnées GPS : 35.417045 / 24.785078) - Monastère d’Arkadi (moni Arkadiou) Entrée à 2,50 euros (Cordonnées GPS : 35.310214 / 24.629095) - Grotte de l’Ida (Ideon Antron) (Cordonnées GPS : 35.205630 / 24.824574) - Site archéologique Palais de Festos (disque de Phaïstos). Entrée à 6 euros (Cordonnées GPS : 35.051704 / 24.811925) - Ville de Matala et la plage (grottes à 3 euros) et Red Beach - Kommos (site antique non accessible au public, ses œufs de tortues sur la plage) (Cordonnées GPS : 35.013461 / 24.760756) - Village de Lentas - Plage d'Agios Pavlos (Cordonnées GPS : 35.103128 / 24.563649) - Gorges d'Agio Farango, pour déboucher sur une belle plage

Restaurants

Ippokambos, Sofokli Venizelou 3, Héraklion Tel : +30 2810 280240

Peskesi, Kapetan Haralampi 6-8, Héraklion Tel : +30 2810 288887

Kastella, Sofokli Venizelou 7 | Venetian Harbor, Héraklion Tel : +30 2810 300779

Hovoli, Platia Daskalogianni 3, Héraklion Tel : +30 2810 220320

Paralia Seaside, Sofokli Venizelou 5 | Venetian Harbor, Héraklion Tel : +30 2810 282475

Kritiki Spiti (moussaka), Andrea Papandreou, Amoudara Tel : +30 2810 314233

Taverna Edem (poissons), Agia Pelagia Beach, Agia Pelagia Tel : +30 281 081 1247

El Greco, Agia Pelagia Tel : +30 2810 812080

Mouragio Restaurant, Agias Pelagias, Agia Pelagia Tel : +30 2810 811070

The Home Agia Pelagia, The Beach, Agia Pelagia

Scala Fish Tavern, End of the cove of Matala, Matala Tel : +30 2892 45489

Taverna Sunset Matala, Matala Tel : +30 694 003 3019

G & G Corner (crêperie / fast food), Matala Tel : +30 2892 045566

Hakuna Matata, Malala Beach | Cove of Matala, Matala Desserts - Chill Box Frozen Yogurt, Agias Paraskevis 21, Chersonisos - Crepe4u, Beach Road | Agiou Ioannou 103, Stalis - Veranda All Day Cafe & Restaurant, Plateia Liontarion, Héraklion - Spyridon Patisserie, Town Center, Kokkini Han

NOTRE PROGRAMME :

JOUR 1 : - Visite de Rethymnon - Repas à NYN à Rethymnon (mix de nourriture traditionnelle grecque, pas mauvais pour 15 euros pour 2 mais rien d'extra).

JOUR 2 : - Lagon de Balos (voiture + à pied) - Repas à Kissamos à Stelios & Katina (parking juste en face de la taverne), Agamemnonos 47, Kissamos. Cuisine familiale très bonne. Dessert et Raki offert. - Plage de Falassarna

JOUR 3 : - Gorges de Samaria (sandwichs achetés la veille / durant la randonnée, de nombreuses sources pour remplir sa bouteille)

JOUR 4 : - Plage de Elafonissi - Repas à Aqua café bar à Kissamos

JOUR 5 : - Visite de Chania - Repas à Tamam, Zampeliou 49, Chania (dessert et raki offert) - Piscine de l'hôtel

JOUR 6 : - Olivier de Vouves et le musée - Crique de Seitan-Limania - Repas à Veranda, Marathi beach (bon restau mais sans plus) - Plage de Marathi

JOUR 7 : - Georgioupolis et l’église St Nicolas - Palm Beach et la forêt de palmiers - Monastère Kato Preveli - Repas à Gefyra taverna cafe-Preveli (pas loin de Moni Kato Preveli). Cuisine familiale très bonne. Dessert et raki offert. Bonne adresse. - Moni Piso Preveli - Lac naturelle de Kournas

JOUR 8 : - Palais de Knossos - Eglise byzantine Panagia Kera - Repas à La Casa (autour du lac), 28th October 31, Agios Nikolaos - Agios Nikolaos - Yaourt glacé Gelato, Akti Stilianou Koundourou 12, Agios Nikolaos

JOUR 9 : - Moni Toplou - Port de Sitia - Plage de Palmiers à Vaï (sandwichs achetés sur place) - Plage d'Ambelos

JOUR 10 : - A Plaka, embarquement pour l'île et la forteresse de Spinalonga - Plage de Vulisma - Repas au snack de la plage Vulisma

JOUR 11 : - Excursion en bateau à 10 h jusqu'à 17 h au départ d’Ierapetra (vers l'Est à 20 km environ) dans des criques, avec repas dans une crique et masque à l'argile. - Agios Nikolaos, le port - Yaourt glacé Gelato, Akti Stilianou Koundourou 12, Agios Nikolaos

JOUR 12 : - Visite d'Heraklion, du musée archéologique - Plage de Ligaria - Repas au Blue Café Restaurant, Ligarias Beach

JOUR 13 : - Palais de Festos - Matala visite de la ville et des grottes - Repas à Hakuna Matata, Malala Beach (poisson très frais et serveur qui parle français puisqu'il a vécu 18 ans en Belgique). Très bonne adresse. - Plage de Komos

JOUR 14 : - Monastère Moni Savathianon - Eglise de Panagia - Monastère d'Arkadi - Visite de Bali et de son port - Repas sur le port de Bali à Panorama Taverna (vue superbe sur le port et plages de Bali / un serveur parle français) - Plage de Karavostasi

Les photos : https://plus.google.com/photos/114309247784934720795/albums/6173846645286908961?authkey=CKOy7r78oPLiVg

"On a qu'une vie !"

Papito93 Regular ·2015-07-24

Bonjour Jean-Jacques ,

Voilà un retour bien sympathique et de bien belles photos qui laissent penser que vous rentrez heureux de votre séjour en Crete , ce qui est toujours bien agréable pour retrouver son quotidien. Nous partageons votre plaisir, nous étions en Crete l'an dernier et ce furent aussi de chouettes vacances. Nous attendons septembre avec un peu d'impatience pour découvrir cette année le Péloponnese .

Bien cordialement Antoine

PA Pavezade Regular ·2015-07-26

Toujours aussi belle , la crête !

Merci pour ces magnifiques photos , d'un magnifique endroit !🙂

DU Dudu26 ·2015-12-27

Billy0013 Regular ·2015-12-27

Bonjour, 🙂

Commentaires très bien et très pratique pour ceux qui n'y sont jamais aller. Pour ceux qui critique, laisse les faire, souvent ils ne sont jamais sorti de leur patelin. Peux-tu me dire les lieux incontournables à faire au niveau paysage et plage (car avec ma femme nous ne sommes pas trop musée et nous partons en septembre pour une dizaine de jour).

Merci. 😏

cordialement. 😉

Merci c'est sympa. Incoutournable (c'est mon avis) au niveau plage le lagon de Balos et Elafonissi pour moi elles sont top (c'est à l'ouest)...y'en a d'autres que j'ai mis (falassarna aussi mais un poil moins bien que les deux autres) et à l'Est, la plage de Palmiers (Vaï) et Ambelos (superbe)...et l'ile de chrissi (mon regret à cause du vent on a pas pu y aller). Je t'ai résumé les plus belles mais y'en a d'autres (regarde les photos, tu te feras ta propre opinion) 😉 le plus dûr pour toi, ça va être de choisir 😏 courage ! 😉 Tu vas te régaler. J'ai un petit truc, j'ai scruté à coup de google earth tout le tour de la Crète (oui j'avais que ça à faire) et franchement je peux dire que j'ai fait les plus belles plages 🙂

"On a qu'une vie !"

PA Pavezade Regular ·2015-12-27

Bonjour,

Pour les plages , je te rejoints tout à fait

Pour les paysages , c'est bien d'aller à l'intérieur du pays : les gorges de Samaria et le plateau du Lassithi .

Floyd77 Veteran ·2017-12-17

Bonjour Billy Je sais que je répond à un post de 2015 mais c'est pour pour vous remercier de tous ces indications détaillées bienvenues qui vont m’aider à construire mon voyage en Juin . Floyd

ValerieM Regular ·2018-01-18

ValerieM

Billy0013 Regular ·2018-01-18

Bonjour merci pour ce super compte-rendu et les photos. J'envisage le même genre de voyage cet été, également la première quinzaine de juillet. Pouvez-vous me dire si vous n'avez pas trop souffert du grand nombre de touristes? Si oui, à certains endroits plus que d'autres? Je lis partout qu'il y a énormément de tourisme de masse en Crête, et ça me fait hésiter (et je ne peux pas partir hors saison) Merci

Bonjour Valérie,

c'est vrai qu'il y a beaucoup de touristes en juillet surtout à Balos, Elafonissi, Knossos, La Canée...etc...ce qu'on faisait c'est qu'on y allé tôt le matin (quand le soleil pointait son nez) et les activités moins courus l'après-midi. Durant notre départ fin juin, il y avait moins de monde mais on était parti juste une semaine avant le début des vacances scolaire et la seconde semaine était donc durant la premère semaine des vacances scolaire. Honnêtement ça aller, j'ai souvenirs par exemple qu'à Balos, on y était allé tôt le matin et qu'en partant en début d'après-midi, la plage est noire de monde alors que le matin il y'avait pas trop de monde. Pour l'Ile de Spinalonga il y avait du monde aussi.

Cela dit la première quinzaine de juillet c'est, je pense, la moins pire (avec la dernière quinzaine d'août) pour partir en Crète durant les vacances scolaires.

"On a qu'une vie !"

ValerieM Regular ·2018-01-18

Merci beaucoup pour la réponse rapide!

ValerieM

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Hi there, we’re a young couple and we’d love to go to the Blue Eye (Syri i Kalter) between today (26/06/26) and tomorrow (27/06/26). Is anyone heading there and could give us a ride? We’re super friendly! Thanks so much!

Maya and Sullivan

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Pourrez 2 weeks ago · Mathews

What to see and do in Banja Luka?

Hi there, After booking an Airbnb last January for this summer’s vacation in Sarajevo... My "host" canceled our reservation without any reason—this has never happened to me before.

Of course, now it’s impossible to find a place to stay at a "normal" price in Sarajevo with parking... So we’re falling back on the capital of the Republika Srpska, Banja Luka, which had already crossed my mind before I booked Sarajevo.

I already have quite a few ideas in mind, without having dug too deep into the region yet. But if anyone has already been there and has suggestions? Even for restaurants—I’m all ears!

And even if it’s not right next door, I’m planning to spend a day in Sarajevo!

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Marco16 4 weeks ago

Access and Accommodation in Minsk

Hi there,

We’re two forty-something friends spending two weeks in the Baltic countries. Between Lithuania and Estonia, we’d love to swing by Minsk.

From what I’ve read on this forum and other sites, I think I’ve got it right: from Vilnius, by bus, you need an up-to-date passport, travel insurance, and Belarusian rubles.

A couple more questions—what about euros if we’re carrying a few hundred?

And which sites are reliable for finding accommodation or a hotel for 3–4 days in Minsk? With the usual sites (Airbnb and Booking, for example) being blocked, the alternatives seem to be less familiar or pricier (like hotels.com). There are other sites, but it’s never easy to know how trustworthy they are. What should we look for in Minsk if we’re used to Airbnb or Booking?

One last question—has anyone here tried crossing via Daugavpils?

Thanks a bunch!

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Fangui last month · Djalma

Albanian Alps: Trip Report

We're back. It's still a bit tough to get precise info, so here's a quick trip report!

A good starting point is Shkoder, a really pleasant city. You can easily explore Shkoder itself in a day or two.

Two accessible spots: Valbona and Theth. In both cases, local travel agencies in Shkoder or online offer round-trip or one-way access packages. Super handy, especially for Valbona.

Valbona and Theth are both very steep! There aren’t many easy hikes for less sporty folks (like me!).

Valbona: The highlight is the amazing 2.5-hour boat ride across Lake Koman. There are day trips from Shkoder, but you’ll only get a short tour of the lake. The best option is to do the full crossing—so spend a night in Valbona (or two if you want to hike in the valley) and return.

Theth is deeply nestled in the mountains. The village at the end of the valley, which is a dead end, has lots of hotels, but they’re pricey. Other hostels are scattered along the mountainside road, but it’s a steep climb down to the village or to the start of the two easy hikes (waterfalls and the Blue Eye). For us, it was a one-hour descent (and ascent!). It’s fine if you have a car; otherwise, keep an eye out for a taxi (cheap) or try hitchhiking—it works really well. Access from Shkoder to Theth is through an agency. The road is in great condition, and you can also rent a car for 2-3 days in Shkoder. If we did it again, that’s the option we’d choose.

We didn’t do the trek and returned to Shkoder each time. I can’t speak to its difficulty, but we were there in late May, and even experienced hikers had given up because of heavy rain and snow.

Hope this helps! It’s a stunning region you shouldn’t miss.

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SherpaG 2 months ago · Barneyg

Which Cyclades islands should we choose?

We’re a Canadian couple, both 77, and we’re already planning our vacation for fall 2027. Timeframe: mid-September to mid-October... dates are flexible, and we might stay even longer. Initially, I had planned this itinerary: Athens (3), Naxos (4), Paros (4), Santorini (4), then a flight to Istanbul (7–10 days!!). This would let us maximize our flights and experience another culture. That’s a lot of ferries, though... I’ve already cut out Milos.

Our second option would be to stay 2 x 15 days on two different islands, but I’d still keep Istanbul as our next destination... or maybe 30 days on one island that offers the chance to take day trips to other islands where the ferry ride is no more than 2 to 2.5 hours. For example, Naxos to Paros only takes 30 minutes. We could return the same evening or stay overnight.

Naxos seems like the best option!!!

For Istanbul, of course we want to do a day cruise on the Bosphorus and see Hagia Sophia. If we stay 6–7 days, what would be the other main attractions? Are there any points of interest we can reach by local bus?

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Christine 2 months ago · Lylline

Are there any effects from the war in Iran in Greece?

Hi there! We bought our tickets to Greece at the end of November 2025, and let’s just say the geopolitical climate has really taken a turn since then with the war started by the United States against Iran. Not to mention all the other conflicts happening around the world 😕... Anyway! Our flight from Montreal is on May 1st, and I was wondering how things are currently being experienced in Greece. We were planning to rent a car and had already booked accommodations on three Cyclades islands!! The oil shortage is also worrying us... If you could share some insights on this, that would be great!

Thanks!!

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Guy1 2 months ago

Trip report: Albania, April 2026

A little trip report from an 11-day journey to Albania at the end of April 2026, with two friends in their early sixties and beyond... Our route: Berat, Gjirokastër, Himarë, Tirana Here are some opinions, tips, and great deals to share: Flight Round-trip Beauvais-Tirana: Ryanair, 260 € with checked baggage (20 kg) and seat selection. Flight was fine and on time. 2h 30min flight. Exchange: 1 € was worth 95 lek in April 2026. We were advised to exchange in the airport hall at the Illiria counter (98 lek outside the security zone), saying we wouldn’t find a better rate. However, the exchange rate was 93 lek for 1 euro, while in the city it was 95... Car rental at Tirana airport for 9 days via Booking.com: 144 € (56 € for the car rental and 88 € for optional full insurance deductible waiver). Wheego agency: the car was fine, but be careful when signing the contract—they tried to convince us that the insurance taken through Booking didn’t cover everything and insisted we take their own insurance for 250 €... We refused. After reading about driving in Tirana, instead of starting our trip by visiting the capital, we decided to head straight to Berat upon arrival and return the car at the end of the trip to explore the city on foot. This turned out to be a great choice! Accommodations: All our stays were booked via Booking.com. Everyone prefers to be paid in euros and in cash—they mention this when booking. Berat: 2-hour drive from the airport. Accommodation: Vila Arben Elezi: 135 € for 3 nights with breakfast and private parking. The room was decent and clean but a bit dark, located slightly below ground level near the parking. However, the breakfast on the rooftop was excellent, especially with the stunning view of the "city of a thousand windows." Great location. Berat was our favorite—there are lovely walks through the different neighborhoods on both sides of the river, each with a very different vibe. The citadel visit is also fascinating, as it’s like a small town within the fortress. The walk along the river is pleasant, with plenty of restaurant choices. Other restaurants in the old town are also very nice. The White House Restaurant, on the first floor along the road, is good and offers a great view of the Gorica district. Gjirokastër: Accommodation: Te Ajdini Guest House: 120 € for 3 nights with breakfast. A private home stay. There’s free parking just before entering the city, a 5-minute walk from the accommodation, which is very convenient since the cobblestone streets are narrow and parking is tricky. Yes, it’s a climb to get to the place, but everything in this city is uphill... The room was bright and clean. Breakfast was very good, hearty, and served in the courtyard with a view of the castle. The guesthouse is a 5-minute walk from the city center (the bazaar) but in a quiet area. Restaurants: Rrapi and Kujtimi—good and affordable with their little pergolas. The old town of Gjirokastër is charming but very touristy, with streets packed with souvenir shops and restaurant tables and chairs. Lots of people. -The bunker visit (near the tourist office) is very interesting: Cold War Tunnel. The castle offers a beautiful view of the city. -Visit to the Ottoman house Skenduli: very well done. Don’t forget to climb the ladder facing a trapdoor in the ceiling to see the roof’s framework—it’s like a forest of beams: impressive! -The bridge Ura e Ali Pasha: A steep 45-minute climb from the city to the site is worth it, but once you reach the viewpoint (which is stunning), you have to go back down a path to reach the bridge. You can drive to the viewpoint, but parking is very tricky. Around Gjirokastër: -Just outside the city: Lake Liqeni i Viroit: a nice, ordinary-looking lake, but at the end, there’s a natural spring making the water crystal clear and a brilliant blue—really spectacular, like photos of Blue Eye near Sarandë. -Drive to Përmet along the gorges: beautiful viewpoints along the way and lovely countryside. Himarë: Accommodation: Vila Kosteli: 120 € for 2 nights with breakfast—slightly overpriced for this type of place but very close to a small beach and not far from the promenade with all the restaurants. Private parking, but very tight (4 cars on a tiny lot along the road). The "sea view" room is a bit obstructed by the building across the street. However, the rooftop breakfast view is beautiful. Friendly staff. Himarë is a pleasant seaside resort, quite calm (but it was April...). There’s a cute promenade with restaurants along the beach. The castle on the heights of Himarë is worth a visit. Around Himarë: -Qeparo is worth a quick stop, but Qeparo village is really worth the detour: a village lost in the heights after a scenic drive up from the coastal road—narrow but well-maintained. Beautiful view from the top and a charming village. -The Big Bunker and Llogora Panorama: take a right turn several kilometers after Dhermi—a road that climbs steeply from the start... A breathtaking winding road that reaches 900 meters in altitude. The view is stunning. -Several small villages between Dhermi and Himarë are worth a quick stop. -Porto Palermo Castle is somewhat disappointing. Tirana: Taxi from Tirana airport to the city center: 15 € with electric taxis (Green Taxi, Bee Taxi, Do Taxi). Accommodation: Hotel Nevi Apartment: 63 € for 2 nights. A private apartment in an older building but very clean and well-equipped, with a kitchen and small enclosed balcony. Great welcome and contact—the owner even booked a taxi for our departure. Very well located, close to the main square, shops, and restaurants. A small supermarket nearby is perfect for stocking up on breakfast supplies. The city is lively and dynamic, with plenty of green spaces and promenades. Buildings are popping up everywhere, often with surprising architecture—like a building shaped like a face, a huge golden cube, and many others under construction. -Sky Tower: at the top, a rotating bar offers a 360° view of the city and its buildings. Drinks are a bit pricier than usual, but it’s totally worth it (6 € for a beer or a glass of white wine, 3 € for coffee). We were there for sunset, and it was amazing! A must-do. Arrive early, as it fills up quickly. -The House of Leaves: a house used for secret surveillance and interrogations during the dictatorship... A great way to learn about the surveillance systems of that era. -Bunk’Art 2: a bunker in the heart of the city—very interesting, covering the dictatorship period and its system... -The Pazari i Ri Bazaar: the new bazaar district. The large hall is worth a visit, but souvenir prices are often higher than elsewhere... The area is nice. Restaurant: Kastrati Restaurant—a bit like a canteen with lots of traditional dishes. It’s on the first floor of a building. Excellent value for money, and the waitress explains the dishes in French.

That’s a little overview of our trip and my personal impressions! Albania is a beautiful and pleasant country to visit. If you have any questions, feel free to ask!

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Papyrus77 2 months ago · NinjaPenguin

What to see and do in Rhodes?

What are the main sights to visit on Rhodes itself or the surrounding islands, and what’s the weather like? We’re leaving on May 18th.

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Banditnat 3 months ago · Elenitsa

Crowds in Crete mid-August to early September

Hi everyone, We’re thinking of spending 3 weeks in Crete between mid-August and early September, renting a car, quickly exploring a few spots in the east, and focusing on the west, southwest, and south. I’m worried about the heavy tourist crowds. Is it really more noticeable than elsewhere in Greece? Is there a way to avoid the crowds without missing out on the iconic places, which I imagine are stunning in Crete? Thanks for your thoughts and experiences!

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Patricevinc 3 months ago · Guidefree

How to get from Albania to Greece by bus

Hi, I'm heading to Greece via Albania soon. Does anyone have info on transportation from Gjirokastër to Ioannina? Which company, fares, and schedules—it's not very clear with Google.

Thanks!

Patrice

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Steph60650 3 months ago · Barneyg

A day in Bratislava

Hi everyone,

I’m just passing through Bratislava quickly (one afternoon, one night, one morning) and I’d love to see the highlights of the city. I’ve put together a little itinerary—feel free to let me know what you think!

Start at the castle and its beautiful viewpoint Visit the Baroque gardens St. Martin’s Cathedral, quick visit National Theatre Discover the Cumil statues Primatial Palace via Hlavné Namestie Michael’s Gate Grassalkovich Palace via Obchodna Walk across Namesti Slobody to head back to the upside-down pyramid Head down to the Blue Church Cross the Danube to see Sad Janka Krala, then return via the UFO Bridge There you go—10 km and a packed day! What do you think?

Thanks, Stéphane.

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Sahello 3 months ago

Car rental insurance in Greece

Hi, I’m renting a car in Greece (Heraklion). Should I get extra insurance? What’s driving like with the Greeks? Thanks for any tips!

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Vicdu12 3 months ago · Elenitsa

What to visit in Crete for a week with a return to the hotel each evening?

Hi there, we’re heading to Crete from May 8th to 15th, staying at a hotel in Agia Pelagia, 20 km from Heraklion, on half-board, so we’ll be back every evening. What daily itinerary would you recommend? We love hiking and discovering local cultures... Thanks in advance!!

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Zizouille 3 months ago · Gaura

Prague in June: Packing and Sightseeing Tips

Hello, We’re heading to Prague with so much excitement from June 10th to 20th. I’ve got three main questions for those who live there or have visited: - What are your thoughts on what to pack clothing-wise? What’s the weather usually like at this time of year? We’re a bit sensitive to the cold—we live way down in southern Andalusia and are used to the *calor* 😎... Should we pack rain gear? Are we likely to get a lot of rain (which we’re dreading a little, but we couldn’t choose other dates)? - I’ve seen there are "passes" for various attractions, museums, and sites, including one that’s valid for 10 days but costs a whopping 160 € per person—that’s an average of 16 € per day. Do you think it’s really worth it? We won’t be spending our days rushing between every indoor site; we also love wandering the streets and discovering things a bit "at random." If we do two paid visits a day, that’ll probably be the max... Can we make it worth the cost with that? Of course, we want to visit the castle and take a boat trip as a minimum. Are the sites included in these passes iconic, or are they more "minor" attractions? Does having the pass help us skip long lines? - Finally, a question about communication: I speak French, obviously, plus Spanish and English fluently, but very little German (haven’t practiced in ages), and no Russian or Czech at all. My husband knows a few words of Russian, but it’s "Cuban" Russian—about the same level as my current German 🙂 !! Can we still get by without too much trouble? We don’t want to spend 10 days not saying a word to anyone and communicating only with gestures!! Thanks for your valuable tips and opinions.

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Johanpascale 3 months ago · Randomi

Affordable car rental in Crete

hi,

I'm looking to rent a small car, not too expensive, for Crete in April. Do you have any great tips? Thanks in advance! Best regards

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Sahello 3 months ago

Car rental requirements in Crete?

Hi there! We’re heading to Crete (Heraklion) as a couple and I’d like to rent a car. 1) Do we need an international driver’s permit? 2) Are rentals super expensive? Thanks everyone!

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Lecondor 3 months ago

Poland: average cost of a meal and souvenirs in zloty

Hi there

I’d like to know how much a meal costs on average in zloty in Poland (Warsaw, Kraków, Częstochowa, Wadowice), and also the price of souvenirs like postcards and magnets—so I don’t end up with too many zlotys left after my 5-day trip to Poland?

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Steph60650 3 months ago · Sinforosa

Budapest in a day: your thoughts on my itinerary

Hi everyone,

I’m just passing through the city very quickly (one afternoon, one night, one morning) and I’d love to see as many must-see spots as possible. I’ve put together a little itinerary—let me know what you think!

Visit to Varosliget Park Heroes’ Square Quick stop in the southern part of Margitsziget (for the photo with the Budapest sign!!!) Gül Baba Mausoleum and Rose Garden Fisherman’s Bastion Church of the Assumption of Our Lady of Budavár Tóth Árpád stny promenade Budavar Palace Freedom Square Parliament

This is just a first draft. I still have a few months to tweak it.

Thanks!

Stéphane.

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Thebigblue 3 months ago

Tips for a 20-day Montenegro and Croatia itinerary

hello I’m looking for advice for a last-minute trip—about 3 weeks (half Montenegro, half Croatia). I’m traveling solo, backpacker style (low budget, hostels). I’m 40 and love exploring cool spots—cities, beaches, mountains, sports activities, you name it.

I’m torn between renting a car or just going with the flow using buses once I’m there. A car would definitely be more convenient, but it might be pricier—plus, parking (is it paid?) and having to return it to the same place. My plan is to start in Montenegro (flying into Podgorica or Albania) and finish in Croatia, so I’d either need to do short-term rentals per country or one-way.

In Montenegro, here are the spots I’ve noted: - Ulcinj and Velika Plaža beach - A side trip to Lake Skadar and Virpazar - Budva, Sveti Stefan, and Petrovac - Cetinje and Lovćen National Park - Kotor / Perast - Žabljak and Durmitor National Park + rafting in the Tara Canyon Is 8–10 days enough?

And in Croatia, I’ve got: - Dubrovnik - Korčula - Hvar - Split + Trogir and Krka National Park - Zadar - Plitvice Lakes National Park - Croatian Istria / Rovinj / Pula - Zagreb Around 10–12 days.

Any tips on the stops (adding or cutting some from my list) or transportation options?

Thanks in advance!

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Nicoa57 4 months ago · JoLuiB

Questions about visits and accommodation in Pelion / Chalkidiki

Hi there,

I’m heading to Pelion with my partner and then to Chalkidiki around mid-September (from September 12th to 26th). I arrive in Thessaloniki on Saturday evening and plan to spend a day there to check out the market (though it’s marked as temporarily closed on Google??) and, most importantly, enjoy the local food scene.

After that, I’ll head toward Meteora (Sunday evening/Monday), spend a week in Pelion, and then head up to Nikiti to finish the trip (5 days in Vourvourou) and explore the beaches of Sithonia. We’ll also make a trip to Afytos since I think it’s worth the detour.

About Pelion, I’m really not sure where to stay because the distances between Volos and Afissos aren’t straightforward.

I’m looking for a quiet spot but with a little evening activity—like strolling through a village or by the sea. I’ve seen a few suggestions via ChatGPT, but I’m not convinced about the vibe (Milies, Makrinitsa).

Volos is big… but kind of ugly.

We love hiking, spending time in picturesque/typical villages, and, like everyone else, tasting local specialties. As for balancing the trip, I’m open to changes or adjustments if you’ve got any tips—I’d love to hear them, along with any other ideas.

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Socrate333 4 months ago · Keftiou

Hesitating between Crete or Menorca

Hi! We’d like to go away for 10 days around May 15th, either to Menorca or Crete—we don’t know either place. We love hiking, unspoiled nature, good food, swimming, and, if possible, avoiding crowds. We enjoy getting off the beaten track. Menorca seems ideal because it’s not far by plane from Lyon, but if Crete is really wilder and more beautiful in terms of landscapes, we can add an extra hour of flight time. Can you help us out? Thanks!

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Steph60650 4 months ago · Mathews

One-day itinerary for Prague

Hi everyone,

I'm on my way to Slovakia, where I'll be spending about ten days on vacation in the High Tatras. I've decided to stop in Prague for 24 hours with my two teens (arriving around noon, leaving the next day). We don’t know the city at all. I know a single day is way too short to discover everything, so I’d like to plan a small circuit to see the must-see spots.

Here’s what I’ve planned:

Walk through Nový Svět street Visit the castle, St. Vitus Cathedral, and Golden Lane Quick stop at Vojanovy Sady gardens Malá Strana Square Maltese Square Kampa Island Then the iconic Charles Bridge and a short tour of the Jewish Quarter We’ll head back down to visit Old Town Square (Malé Náměstí, St. Nicholas Church, and the Church of Our Lady before T��n) Head to Wenceslas Square and the Church of Our Lady of the Snows Then to the Church of Saints Cyril and Methodius and the Dancing House And finally, back to the starting point.

Estimated distance: 10 km

I was thinking of a little evening stroll up Petřín Hill... what do you think? Are there things that aren’t really worth it, or other spots that are must-sees?

Thanks for your thoughts and feedback!

Stéphane.

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Envallis 4 months ago · Barneyg

Which base(s) to choose in Cyprus?

Hello

It’s decided—next summer, it’s Cyprus! A region we don’t know yet, with nature, culture, beach time, and diving the Zenobia 😎 We’re thinking of a 2-week trip.

After flipping through the LP guide, I’m still unsure about the best bases—I can’t quite picture the distances...

Option 1: Stay near Larnaca for 1 week and Paphos for the other. But from Larnaca, Cape Greco is doable. Wouldn’t it be better to stay near Cape Greco (Protaras?) instead? What about getting to Lefkara? Same from Paphos—easy to explore as far as Kourion.

Option 2: A single, more central base somewhere between Limassol and Larnaca.

Thanks for your tips and great deals 😉

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Illico17 4 months ago · Decma

Booking a visit to the Acropolis

I’d like to book tickets for a visit to the Acropolis at the end of April. The official site is down. What do you think of agencies like Get Your Guide? Are they reliable? It’s a lot more expensive. The audio guide option is tempting, but is that reliable too? We’re a bit older and like to take our time...

Do the other museums (National Archaeological Museum and Museum of Cycladic Art) also require reservations? We visited Athens 50 years ago, and it seems like things have changed a lot.

Thanks for any help!

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Babette75 4 months ago

Driver or self-drive tour in Albania?

hi,

I just booked a flight and hotel (Mövenpick in Durrës) for my husband and me for late May. We’re thinking of spending (I haven’t really decided yet) one day in Tirana, one day around Berat, and one day around Gjirokastër and the Albanian Riviera. We were planning to hire a private driver for the day. I asked the hotel if they could find one for me... they brushed me off! Yet I usually do this for all my trips.

Would you have a name, a company, or someone I could contact?

Otherwise, is it "dangerous"—road conditions and Albanian driving—to rent a car?

Do I need an international driver’s permit?

thanks

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Decma 4 months ago · Desman

What choices to make for 2 weeks in March in Athens and the Cyclades?

We’ve only been to Crete in Greece before, so this trip is new to us—but planning the itinerary isn’t easy because we have to make choices. We’d love to hear from those in the know about the following plan: Day 1: flight to Athens, then flight to Milos 3 days in Milos, 4 days in Sifnos, 3 days in Paros, Final 3 days in Athens. Should we book ferry tickets between the islands in March in advance, or can we wait until the last minute? Same question for accommodations on these different islands. Finally, on the 3 islands we’ve chosen, is renting a car essential, or are the buses enough? Thanks for your help!

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Christine 5 months ago · JoLuiB

Booking transport and accommodations in the Cyclades for May

HELLO!

For a trip to the Cyclades in early May (1st–18th), we’re planning to visit Naxos, Amorgos, and finish on Paros to catch a flight back to Athens.

I was wondering if we need to book the ferries now or if we can wait a bit... also, for car rental, can we book on the spot?

For accommodations, our bookings are done except for Paros... any suggestions for good value-for-money options?

Also, any other tips about our route or anything else would be super welcome!!!

Thanks in advance from Quebec! 🙂

Christine

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