bonjour,
Ce retour de Weekend prolongé j'ai encore râlè devant la misère des transports collectifs de vélo.
C'est pas la première fois ...
nous prenons le TER avec les vélos chargés de le pin du lac a Aix les bains pour retrouver ma voiture.
On aurait bien pris un des cars a moitiés vides qui font la liaison mais il ne prennent pas les velos bien que les soutes soit quasi vides... pour infos il y a plein de pays ou l'on peu charger un vélo dans la soute d'un car moyennant ou pas un supplément mais en France manifestement c'est trop compliqué ...
Consultation des horaires : a priori seuls les TER acceptent les velos , et encore s'il y a de la place c'est le contrôleur qui juge ... curieux mais pour les passagers il n'y a pas de restrictions...
Le comble c'est que tous les horaires je les ai trouvé sur le site de la Deutch Bahn car sur sncf voyage il en manquant la moitié !
Évidement en gare il n'est indiqué nulle part dans quelle partie de la rame se trouve le compartiment vélo , ce serait trop simple ! du coup quand la rame arrive c'est la course sur le quai pour pouvoir charger en 2 mn chrono !
Le train arrive, 4 marches à gravir très raides, autant dire que ma femme seule avec son vélo chargé n'aurait pas eu la force de le monter.
Le compartiment est blindé, visiblement pour un grand weekend de printemps mettre un second compartiment vélo sur la rame relevait de l'utopie.
on a pas pu prendre de billet car la gare est fermée le dimanche après midi et mettre un distributeur de billet ça doit être trop compliqué aussi ! quand au contrôleur , je le cherche encore...
Ce matin j'entends que la sncf se recentre sur le TGV qu'elle va désormais appeler INOUIT ou INUIT ou peut être INNOUI (je n'ai pas bien compris) en vue de la privatisation en 2020.
en conclusion je me demande si c'est pas un peu fait exprès tout ça .
On commence par dégouter les gens de prendre le train, on fait en sorte de diminuer les recettes (absence de distributeur de billet) et au final on supprime la ligne car non rentable.
ps: quand j'ai commencé le cyclotourisme il y a trente ans on pouvait amener son vélo dans n'importe quelle gare et moyennant la modique somme de 12 francs (2 euros) il était livré dans n'importe quelle gare de son choix. (il fallait simplement l'amener un jour ou deux avant pour être sur qu'il soit bien présent à l'arrivée)
il y a plein de pays ou l'on peu charger un vélo dans la soute d'un car moyennant ou pas un supplément mais en France manifestement c'est trop compliqué...
c'est pire que ça : pas besoin d'aller à l'étranger. En Région Rhône-Alpes, un même autocar prend les vélos en soute quand il circule pour le compte d'un département, mais a obligation de les refuser quand il roule pour le compte de la SNCF. Et parfois, la SNCF poste des agents en gare pour jeter les vélos car les conducteurs d'autocar ont l'habitude de les accepter s'il y a assez de place en soute.
les horaires je les ai trouvé sur le site de la Deutch Bahn car sur sncf voyage il en manquant la moitié !
quand j'ai fait la remarque une fois à un cadre de la Direction régionale SNCF, il m'a répondu pudiquement "voyages-sncf.com est un site de vente, pas un site d'information". Pour les horaires, il est en effet plus efficace de consulter Deutsche Bahn, il arrive que même les agents SNCF en gare fassent comme ça. Et sinon, le site TER est plus complet, mais pas très ergonomique, et bien sûr ne donne sur les liaisons d'une région.
pour un grand weekend de printemps mettre un second compartiment vélo sur la rame relevait de l'utopie.
un des grands principes appliqués de manière systématique par la SNCF depuis plusieurs années est que gérer des rames-bloc, c'est plus efficace. Donc la composition des trains est figée, point. Au mieux, avec beaucoup de chance, on aura une double rame à certains horaires de pointe, mais un wagon supplémentaire, jamais.
on a pas pu prendre de billet car la gare est fermée
il y avait peut-être un distributeur de billets dans la gare fermée 😄 Avec la SNCF, tout est possible !
on fait en sorte de diminuer les recettes (absence de distributeur de billet) et au final on supprime la ligne car non rentable.
vous avez parfaitement compris, hélas. Et j'ajoute : dans le cadre de la future mise en concurrence, on essaie de décourager certains concurrents potentiels (en l'occurrence, les CFF suisses s'étaient montrés intéressés pour gérer entre autres une liaison Genève - Montpellier, mais ils ont provisoirement renoncé en constatant que leurs interlocuteurs français n'étaient, disons, pas très très coopératifs)
j'ai trouvé cette page qui oriente vers d'autres pages pour faire des réclamations bien adressées... http://www.sncf.com/fr/relation-client/reclamation
le webmaster est certainement ironique car probablement utilisateur des services sncf car voici l'illustration qu'il place sur la page en question
il faut essayer...
personnellement quand je me trouve en gare je réclame en directe c'est peut-être plus efficace et je fais cela avec le sourire quand je ne pleure pas de désespoir.
à plus
bernarth
Effectivement c'est compliqué le vélo dans les transport collectifs comme en ce moment si on veut faire Gap/Grenoble c'est en bus SNCF car la ligne Ter est fermée pour travaux jusqu'à fin juin
et bien sur , ces bus ne prennent pas les vélos ! pratique tout ça . Vu cette fermeture TER il pouvait ajouter des portes vélos .. sauf à transporter le vélo dans une housse (facile pour un course ) .
Comme les escaliers en gare etc .. faut être costaud pour porter un vélo chargé . Dans un Ter j'ai vu un logo remorque vélo interdit , mais faut le voir il est à l'intérieur du train .
Drôle d'organisation à la SNCF !
Je trouve que ces dernières années, il y a eu beaucoup de progrès dans les TER, où, quand c'est un train et pas un bus, tous les vélos sont acceptés, gratuitement.
Par contre, je découvre qu'hélas les cyclistes sont des français comme les autres, tout aussi individualistes.
Ca se remarque les jours d'affluence, une grande partie que je vois tous les jours sur la ligne que je prend sont très impolis avec les autres usagers.
Ca m'est arrivé de prendre des trains assez chargés avec mon vélo. Dans ce cas, j'essaye au minimum de rester assis prêt de mon vélo , et de ne pas aller prendre une place confortable s'il y a des gens debout. Quand je suis devant une porte, je n'empêche pas les gens de passer etc....
Le problème que je vois, après cette lente acceptation des vélos dans le train, c'est qu'un jour la sncf risque de faire marche arrière si c'est considéré comme une nuisance par les autres passagers.
Après, il y aura toujours quelqu'un pour dire "oui, mais la sncf n'a qu'à prévoir plus de place.
(tandis que le contribuable se plaindra de ce que coute la sncf, etc...etc....)
il y a eu beaucoup de progrès dans les TER, où, quand c'est un train et pas un bus, tous les vélos sont acceptés, gratuitement
ces progrès ont été imposées par les Régions, qui sont les autorités organisatrices des TER (elles valident les cahiers des charges et financent). Et en coulisse, les SNCF essaie de réduire la portée de ces progrès, voire de les saboter.
Et pourquoi les autocars SNCF sont les seuls à refuser des vélos en soute quand les soutes sont vides ? Je l'ai vécu à 2 reprises, y compris une fois où le refus portait sur un vélo pliant suffisamment compact pour ne pas prendre plus de place qu'une valise !
tout à fait d'accord : le fait que les TER acceptent les vélos ne donne pas tous les droits aux vélos. J'ai vu des groupes de 10 VTT essayer de monter dans le TER, ça fout un bordel monstre.
La solution n'est pas simple à trouver. La Loire à Vélo a déclenché la mise en supplément d'un wagon entièrement dédié aux vélos, mais je suppose que ce n'est pas généralisable.
Ce genre de phénomène d'embouteillage arrive partout en Europe. Quand il pleut au mois d'août, les trains sont pris d'assaut, y compris quand on a payé un supplément comme en Allemagne ou au Danemark.
finalement, et cela peut sembler étrange, je préfère les trains à réservation ; c'est cher et c'est contraignant, parce qu'il faut s'y prendre à l'avance, mais au moins on est sûr de voyager tranquille.
[...] le fait que les TER acceptent les vélos ne donne pas tous les droits aux vélos. [...]
Chaque cas est un cas particulier et il est souvent facile et le plus souvent fallacieux de vouloir généraliser à partir d'un unique exemple. Il n'en reste pas moins que la SNCF comme bien d'autres aujourd'hui, a une pratique qui ne correspond pas à sa communication.
Par ailleurs, un malotru avec un vélo se remarque plus qu'un malotru sans vélo ; le problème étant le malotru pas le vélo.
[...] rien n'étant jamais parfait, rien n'est jamais parfaitement désespéré [...]
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I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August!
Virginie
I’ve got my flight ticket sorted—departing in mid-November and returning in mid-March. I’ll arrive in Santiago and leave from Buenos Aires.
I’ve already been to southern Argentina, specifically Torres del Paine National Park, and I’d love to go back to do the full W trek (I only did the shorter version last time).
I also want to do some hiking and maybe even tackle a summit. I climb and occasionally do some mountaineering, so I’ll definitely be going with a guide.
I plan to start around Temuco in Chile, with the idea of heading toward the lakes, then taking the Carretera Austral.
I’m not sure if I’ll go all the way to Ushuaia—it’s supposed to not be *that* worth it, except for the bragging rights of saying you’ve been to the end of the world.
I saw there are lakes in Argentina too.
I don’t have a precise itinerary, but what I’d love is, once I reach the southernmost point of my trip, to take a mini-cruise to see some wildlife. Any tips for that?
What kind of sleeping bag did you take? Is a 0°C (32°F) one enough?
And one last question: white gas stove or can I get by with my gas stove?
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam.
My question is about getting back to Nantes.
Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences.
I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes.
By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains.
We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance!
Have a great evening
Hi there,
I’ve been road cycling for several years, and I’m about to switch to gravel in the next few days—I’m waiting for my bike, which should arrive this week.
I’m planning a bikepacking trip in a few weeks along the Véloroute V81, also known as the Vélosud, from Biarritz to Le Barcarès.
Has anyone here already done this route? Any info is welcome, whether it’s about the route itself, gear, or accommodation. I’ll prioritize staying with locals as much as possible. On that note, I just signed up for the brand-new site *Guidon et Couette* ((www.guidon-et-couette.fr)), which offers free accommodation between cyclists across the country, but there’s almost no one listed along my route!
Thanks in advance.
Laurent.
I’m planning to build a new touring bike.
I want to prioritize lightness.
That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads.
The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper.
I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork.
Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm.
It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring.
And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear.
More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Hi everyone,
I wanted to share with you the incredible feat my friend José, who’s 72 years old, is currently undertaking. He left Auterive near Toulouse on Monday, May 18, 2026, on his non-electric bike, heading for the North Cape in Norway!
You can follow his route on the link below—he’s currently in Sweden:
https://thierry-thomas.travelmap.net/jose-de-toulouse-a-nord-cap-2026
You can zoom in on the map and click on each stopover town to see the photos
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.
It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.
One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.
We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.
Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
Hi there, we’re a group of 4 cyclists looking to get from Treviso in Italy to Munich with our 4 non-folding bikes. It seems complicated! Are there any solutions? Thanks so much.
hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed
story being posted online soon
1100 km in 11 days
beautiful and varied regions
Hi there, we’re planning a Munich to Venice bike trip at the end of June 2026. Getting back from Venice to Toulouse by train with 4 bikes isn’t straightforward. What return options have others who’ve done this trip chosen? Any tips or great deals would be much appreciated. Thanks a bunch! !
Hi everyone,
Happy owner of a Pegasus Estremo bike with a Rohloff hub, which is giving me trouble with the SF11-NCX-FT-E-LITE 700C TS 300/0 fork (serial number TD01329060). It’s starting to show its age, and I’d like to repair it to extend the life of my beloved bike.
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Hi, I'd like to know if anyone has done this route recently or has reliable info.
Does the track exist, and most importantly, is there sand (for biking)?
Any info is welcome.
Cheers,
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena
vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
Hi there,
New to bike touring,
I’d love to start with a section of the Via Rhona to explore and share (route to be decided).
Looking forward to exchanging tips!
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
A big thank you to Lazarou for all the info you share in this forum!
I'm passionate about Morocco, which I cycled through back in 2009.
Last year, my wife and I explored the High Atlas by tandem. Completely smitten, we're heading back in April (Anti Atlas) and May (High and Middle Atlas), still on our tandem.
Do you have any info on the track between Amezri and Ali Ait Nito? Are the river crossings in the Tessaout still there? It's not easy to navigate with a loaded tandem... especially if the river level is high due to this year's heavy snowmelt!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes
Here are his travels
Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné
Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way
Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place
Rural and quite peaceful
A road cycling route created by Serge B...
Tout d'abord... bonne année ! De belles routes à vous en 2017 !
Je voyage depuis quelques années avec un VTT de très bonne qualité mais équipé de freins à disques hydrauliques. Je vis (pédale) avec l'inquiétude d'avoir une panne (fuite, bulle d'air, chaleur qui fait que le liquide...). Mon vélociste me dit qu'il est impossible de les changer pour des V brakes.
Qu'en pensez-vous ? Est-ce que je prends un gros risque à continuer (seule) avec ces freins ? D'avance je vous remercie pour vos bonnes idées.
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025.
It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border.
We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
Hi there,
I’m planning the route to cycle from Lille to Nordkapp with my partner.
Duration: 3 months, from May 1st to July 31st, 2026.
In the attached details below, I need to add some "non-riding" days (rest days, basically).
So I’m looking to "shorten" the trip by taking ferries or trains for some stretches. Which areas could I skip?
Thanks in advance for your great tips.
Have a good evening.
https://www.komoot.com/fr-fr/collection/4023980/-lille-cap-nord-1er-mai-au-31-juillet-2026?ref=collection
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure!
Thanks in advance.
Hi, has anyone recently bought Primus or Butagaz gas, possibly puncture-style, in Dubrovnik or the surrounding area? Same question for Albania... thanks. aichatou
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food
I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics
Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads
The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route
I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Hi! I’m planning to visit the Stockholm Archipelago by bike in early April.
Do you know if the boats will be running between the different islands at that time of year? For those who’ve already been, all your tips and recommendations are welcome—accommodation, etc. Also, do you know where I can rent a bike in Stockholm? Thanks so much in advance for your help!
Hello there, pedal-powered Young Boys!
Claudio (still from Faverges)
dreaming about a cycling getaway in Italy from Faverges (train all the way to Turin)
from Turin down to Venice along the Po River and back via the Padana (Alta Italia da attraversare – Northern Italy to cross)
The tricky part is getting from Chioggia to Venice.
I read it’s possible by hopping on a boat from island to island,
but it sounds a bit stressful.
Has anyone already tackled this route?
I’m currently looking for a bike to do my first bike trip across France, with the ultimate goal of cycling through Latin America. I’ve got a lot of questions and I’d love to hear if you have any answers or advice to share.
First off, I’ve been through this before with hiking. I want to get top-quality gear right away. When I started hiking, I ended up buying everything three times—first beginner gear, then intermediate, then expert, etc.
For biking, I’d prefer to skip that process and invest right now in a bike that could ideally handle Latin America.
I’ve set a total max budget of around 5000 € (roughly 4000–4500 € for the bike and the rest for accessories: panniers, helmet, cycling shorts, etc.).
So, I’ve got quite a few questions:
* I’ve read in several places that some people recommend buying the bike directly in Latin America. Since I need a first bike to train in Europe, would it be better to buy an entry-level bike in France (and sell it before the big departure)? Or is it preferable to start right away with my final bike to get used to it? Is buying it there just to save a bit of money?
* For a long-term trip (around six months) in Latin America, is it better to go for a gravel bike or a mountain bike?
* Should I buy a new bike or a refurbished one? Even more so given that I’m planning a long trip—could a refurbished bike end up causing more breakdowns?
If you have any advice on models, technical features to prioritize, or recommended sellers or resellers, I’d love to hear it. I’m a total beginner—I’ve only just started watching videos and reading up on the subject, and all the technical specs are new to me!
Calling all travelers.
We’ll be landing at Lyon Airport and want to bike to La Verpillière train station (with panniers and camping gear, etc.) to catch a TER to Voreppe.
What’s the safest route for this bike trip?
Thanks in advance
hi,
I'm planning a recumbent bike trip from the Pyrenees to Greece. On the EuroVelo 8 route, it doesn't specify the path through the Alps.
Are there any experienced cyclists here who can tell me where they go to avoid climbing too high?
Also, is there another traveler/bike forum better suited for broadening the responses?
thanks