Itinéraire (un de plus) de vingt-huit jours en Namibie
by MaguyGau
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Voilà l'itinéraire que je prévois, en tenant compte des discussions. Date : septembre 2013 - véhicule : 4x4 avec tente.Arrivée à Windhoec -Route pour le Kalahari (camp Bagatelle)KalahariKalahari (Mariental)-Keetmanshoop (Quivertree Forest Rest Camp)Keetmanshoop-Aus (Klein Aus Vista Camp)- Garub (chevaux - LuderitzAus-Sesriem (Sesriem Campsite)Sesriem-Sossusvleil-Seriem (Seriem Camp site)
Sesriem-Solitaire-plus 30 km au nord (Gecko camp)Gecko Camp - Walvis Bay (camp ???)Walvis Bay - journée bateau et Sandwich HarbourWalvis-Bay-Cape-Cross (otaries)Usakos-SpitzkoppeSpitzkoppe-Uls-D2612 (près Khorixas) - Aabadi CampAabadi Camp-Bersig-Palmag-Khowarib (Khowarib Communit CampsiteKhowarib-Sesfontein-Puros (Puros Camp Site)PurosPuros - Sesfontein (ou Opuwo)Sesfontein (ou Opuwo) - Epupa (Omarunga Camp)EpupaEpupa - Kamanjab (Rusting Toko Lodge - Kamanjab area)Kamanjab-Outjo- Etosha OkaukuejoOkaukuejoOkaukuejo-HalaliHalali-NamutoniNamutoni-Tsumeb-Grootfontein-GrashoekGrashoekGrashoek-Otavi-Otjiwarongo (Omboroko CampsiteOtjiwarongo-WindhoekWindhoekDépartLes jours 9 et 10 sur Walvis Bay m'emballent moins ; mais tout le monde en dit du bien...
Nous prévoyons d'aller à Puros, vanté par tous ceux qui sont allés, et nous pensons revenir par la même piste.
Nous attendons critiques et améliorations éventuelles pour ce circuit... pour lequel nous avons la chance de disposer de 28 j sur place !
Quelques blogs de Maguy et Daniel :
http://gauchet-bali.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-srilanka.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-cuba.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-namibie.blogspot.fr/
Ma pauvre!
Ton message était le troisième le même jour sur le même sujet (ce que tu as bien compris dans ton titre😉).
Vous disposez d'une durée confortable pour cette boucle que beaucoup font en moins de temps et vous n'oubliez rien (je suppose que ne pas aller au sud est un choix). Pour ma part je ne saurais vous conseiller dans le détail des étapes, déjà que j'y arrive pas pour moi.😏🙂
Vous disposez d'une durée confortable pour cette boucle que beaucoup font en moins de temps et vous n'oubliez rien (je suppose que ne pas aller au sud est un choix). Pour ma part je ne saurais vous conseiller dans le détail des étapes, déjà que j'y arrive pas pour moi.😏🙂
Bonjour Maguy,
Effectivement j'ai loupé le troisième hier... 😊
Comme le dit Voyajou, pas grand chose à dire. C'est bien d'avoir le temps !
Quand même une question, pourquoi ne pas passer du tout par le Fish River Canyon alors que vous serez si près et que vous aurez le temps ?
La route Aus/Sesriem en une seule journée... C'est faisable, mais je trouve un peu dommage de ne pas passer une nuit dans le Namtib ou les Tirasberge.
À Walvis Bay ou Swakopmund, le climat n'est pas toujours agréable quand la brume de mer s'y met. Il vaut parfois mieux camper un peu à l'intérieur des terres.
Pas grand chose côté Walvis Bay. Peut-être Vogelfederberg sur la C14 (NB. C'est dans le Namib NP, il faut payer à Sesriem). Sinon Sophia Dale Camp à quelques kms de Swakopmund à l'intérieur ou Alte Brücke à Swakopmund même, si vous voulez vraiment camper près de la mer.
Bonsoir,
Comme voyajou, vous disposez d'une durée de séjour confortable pour ce périple, là où d'autre pressent un peu plus le pas. Il faut juste s'assurer qu'il n'y a pas d'étapes trop longues (au delà de 450 km, ça commence à faire beaucoup en une seule journée), même si on a la journée du lendemain au même endroit pour visiter et se reposer.
Aller à Purros et revenir par la même route est une solution de sécurité, rien à redire à cela. Walvis Bay (ou Swakopmunt) est une étape dans tous les cas pour refaire les pleins de nourriture et de carburant. En profiter pour faire la croisière, pourquoi pas, vous avez le temps.
En cas d'aménagement du parcours, la journée 27 à Windhoek peut être sacrifiée si vous partez avec Air Namibia : on largement le temps de faire un tour en ville pendant la journée avant d'embarquer le soir.
Bonne prépa.
Comme voyajou, vous disposez d'une durée de séjour confortable pour ce périple, là où d'autre pressent un peu plus le pas. Il faut juste s'assurer qu'il n'y a pas d'étapes trop longues (au delà de 450 km, ça commence à faire beaucoup en une seule journée), même si on a la journée du lendemain au même endroit pour visiter et se reposer.
Aller à Purros et revenir par la même route est une solution de sécurité, rien à redire à cela. Walvis Bay (ou Swakopmunt) est une étape dans tous les cas pour refaire les pleins de nourriture et de carburant. En profiter pour faire la croisière, pourquoi pas, vous avez le temps.
En cas d'aménagement du parcours, la journée 27 à Windhoek peut être sacrifiée si vous partez avec Air Namibia : on largement le temps de faire un tour en ville pendant la journée avant d'embarquer le soir.
Bonne prépa.
Carnet : Retour en Namibie : août 2011
En cas d'aménagement du parcours, la journée 27 à Windhoek peut être sacrifiée si vous partez avec Air Namibia : on largement le temps de faire un tour en ville pendant la journée avant d'embarquer le soir.
En faisant attention que, à Windhoek, les magasins sont fermés de chez fermés le Samedi après midi et le dimanche.
Bonne préparation Franck
En faisant attention que, à Windhoek, les magasins sont fermés de chez fermés le Samedi après midi et le dimanche.
Bonne préparation Franck
Tanzanie-2010
Kawaza Village
Botswana : https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2037270
Merci pour le conseil de la Journée 27... Mais, mais, j'ai lu plusieurs messages où Air Namibia modifiait l'heure du départ (non plus le soir, mais le matin). Mieux vaut donc prévoir quitte à prolonger un peu les dernières étapes...
Quelques blogs de Maguy et Daniel :
http://gauchet-bali.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-srilanka.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-cuba.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-namibie.blogspot.fr/
Merci pour la réponse...
Bon ! on estimait avoir déjà beaucoup de kilomètres... et on a laissé le sud... MAIS si vous pensez que FISH RIVER est préférable à WALVIS BAY, on est prêt à modifier...
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Maguy
Quelques blogs de Maguy et Daniel :
http://gauchet-bali.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-srilanka.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-cuba.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-namibie.blogspot.fr/
Merci, merci pour le conseil... Je n'avais vraiment pas pensé à ces fermetures du samedi et dimanche... Mieux vaut donc prévoir !
Maguy
Quelques blogs de Maguy et Daniel :
http://gauchet-bali.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-srilanka.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-cuba.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-namibie.blogspot.fr/
Bon ! on estimait avoir déjà beaucoup de kilomètres... et on a laissé le sud... MAIS si vous pensez que FISH RIVER est préférable à WALVIS BAY, on est prêt à modifier...
En descendant jusqu'à Keetmannshoop, Aus et Lüderitz, on ne peut pas vraiment dire que vous laissiez le Sud. Le canyon ne représente qu'un petit détour et je trouvais dommage de ne pas le faire. Walvis Bay ou Swakopmund sont incontournables ne serait-ce que pour se ravitailler. Si je devais zapper quelque chose dans votre itinéraire, ce serait sans doute une des 2 nuits "Kalahari" et je reduirais d'une nuit à Etosha. Ou bien une seule nuit à Grashoek, suffisante.
En descendant jusqu'à Keetmannshoop, Aus et Lüderitz, on ne peut pas vraiment dire que vous laissiez le Sud. Le canyon ne représente qu'un petit détour et je trouvais dommage de ne pas le faire. Walvis Bay ou Swakopmund sont incontournables ne serait-ce que pour se ravitailler. Si je devais zapper quelque chose dans votre itinéraire, ce serait sans doute une des 2 nuits "Kalahari" et je reduirais d'une nuit à Etosha. Ou bien une seule nuit à Grashoek, suffisante.
Bonsoir
Merci beaucoup pour vos conseils dont j'ai essayé de tenir compte... Voici donc mon projet actuel. N'hésitez pas à faire vos commentaires, vos propositions tant sur les étapes que sur les camps que j'ai sélectionnés.
J'ai une étape très longue (Epupa-Kamanjah). Est-ce faisable ? Autre question : d'où est-il préférable d'aller dans un village Himba (Puros ? Epupa ? ou autre ?) Est-ce que je rate des "merveilles immanquables" (villages, paysages, faune). J'attends avec impatience vos réponses.
1 Windhoeck-Mariental - 220 km route + 70 km piste - 4h Bagatelle Kalahari Game Ranch 2 Mariental -Keetmanchoop - 270 km - 4 h Quivertree Forest Rest camp 3 Keetmanshoop - Hobas (River Fish) - 155 km - 3h30 à 4h Hobas Camp 4 River Fish Hobas Camp 5 River Fish - Aus - 280 km - 4h Klein Aus Vista Camp 6 Aus - Ranch Koiimasis 140 km - 2h Ranch Koiimasis 7 Ranch Koiimasis-Sesriem 200 km - 3h Sesriem Campsite 8 Sesriem-Sosssvlei-Sesriem 70x2 = 140 km Sesriem Campsite 9 Sesriem-Solitaire & Walvis Bay-Swakopmund - 350 km - 5h30 Alte Bruücke Camp 10 Walvis Bay Alte Bruücke Camp 11 Walvis Bay-Henies Bay-Cape Cross Usakos-Spitzkoppe (300 km - 5h) Spitzkoppe Rest Camp 12 Spitzkoppe-Uis-D2612 (près Khorixas) 200 km - 3h30 Aabadi Camp (sur D2612) 13 D2612-Bersig-Palmag-Khowarib 200 km - 3h30 Khowarib Communit Campsite 14 Khowarib-Sesfontein-Puros 140 km - 4h Puros Camp Site 15 Puros (guide) Puros Camp Site 16 Puros-Sesfontein (ou 70 km au nord) 105 km (3h30) + 70 km (1h) Camp Aussitch (70 km nord Seisfontein)ou Fort Sesfontein Lodge 17 Sesfontein-Opuwo-Epupa 260 km(ou 330 km) - 4 ou 5 h Omarunga Camp 18 Epupa Omarunga Camp (Epupa) 19 Epupa-Kamanjab 450km - 6h30 Rusting Toko Lodge (Kamanjab area) 20 Kamanjab-outjo-Etosha-Okaukuejo- 280km - 4h Camp Etosha - Okaukuejo 21 Okaukuejo camp Etosha - Okaukuejo 22 Etosha Okaukuejo-Halali minimum 70 km Camp Etosha - Halali 23 Etosha Halali-Namutoni Minimum 70 km camp Etosha Namutoni 24 Etosha Namutoni - Tsumeb-Grootfontein- Grashoek 250 km - 3h30 Grashoek - Camp San 25 Grashoeg-Otavi-Otjiwarongo-Okonjima 330 km - 4h30 Omboroko campsite 26 Okonjima Omboroko campsite 27 Okonjima-Windhoek 253 km - 3h30 Windhoek 28 Départ MERCI Maguy
1 Windhoeck-Mariental - 220 km route + 70 km piste - 4h Bagatelle Kalahari Game Ranch 2 Mariental -Keetmanchoop - 270 km - 4 h Quivertree Forest Rest camp 3 Keetmanshoop - Hobas (River Fish) - 155 km - 3h30 à 4h Hobas Camp 4 River Fish Hobas Camp 5 River Fish - Aus - 280 km - 4h Klein Aus Vista Camp 6 Aus - Ranch Koiimasis 140 km - 2h Ranch Koiimasis 7 Ranch Koiimasis-Sesriem 200 km - 3h Sesriem Campsite 8 Sesriem-Sosssvlei-Sesriem 70x2 = 140 km Sesriem Campsite 9 Sesriem-Solitaire & Walvis Bay-Swakopmund - 350 km - 5h30 Alte Bruücke Camp 10 Walvis Bay Alte Bruücke Camp 11 Walvis Bay-Henies Bay-Cape Cross Usakos-Spitzkoppe (300 km - 5h) Spitzkoppe Rest Camp 12 Spitzkoppe-Uis-D2612 (près Khorixas) 200 km - 3h30 Aabadi Camp (sur D2612) 13 D2612-Bersig-Palmag-Khowarib 200 km - 3h30 Khowarib Communit Campsite 14 Khowarib-Sesfontein-Puros 140 km - 4h Puros Camp Site 15 Puros (guide) Puros Camp Site 16 Puros-Sesfontein (ou 70 km au nord) 105 km (3h30) + 70 km (1h) Camp Aussitch (70 km nord Seisfontein)ou Fort Sesfontein Lodge 17 Sesfontein-Opuwo-Epupa 260 km(ou 330 km) - 4 ou 5 h Omarunga Camp 18 Epupa Omarunga Camp (Epupa) 19 Epupa-Kamanjab 450km - 6h30 Rusting Toko Lodge (Kamanjab area) 20 Kamanjab-outjo-Etosha-Okaukuejo- 280km - 4h Camp Etosha - Okaukuejo 21 Okaukuejo camp Etosha - Okaukuejo 22 Etosha Okaukuejo-Halali minimum 70 km Camp Etosha - Halali 23 Etosha Halali-Namutoni Minimum 70 km camp Etosha Namutoni 24 Etosha Namutoni - Tsumeb-Grootfontein- Grashoek 250 km - 3h30 Grashoek - Camp San 25 Grashoeg-Otavi-Otjiwarongo-Okonjima 330 km - 4h30 Omboroko campsite 26 Okonjima Omboroko campsite 27 Okonjima-Windhoek 253 km - 3h30 Windhoek 28 Départ MERCI Maguy
Quelques blogs de Maguy et Daniel :
http://gauchet-bali.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-srilanka.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-cuba.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-namibie.blogspot.fr/
Bonsoir Maguy,
Ça prend très bonne tournure. Vraiment, c'est bien d'avoir 4 semaines ! 🙂
Juste une bricole : 3 Keetmanshoop - Hobas (River Fish) - 155 km - 3h30 à 4h Hobas Camp 4 River Fish Hobas Camp 5 River Fish - Aus - 280 km - 4h Klein Aus Vista Camp 2 nuits à Hobas ne sont pas nécessaires. En en passant une, vous aurez les vues du canyon au coucher et au lever du soleil. Parfaitement suffisant. Ensuite, plutôt deux nuits à Aus pour faire l'aller/retour à Lüderitz et Kolmanskop (ou une nuit à Aus, puis une nuit à Lüderitz). Entre le canyon et Aus, la route le long de l'Orange River puis via Rosh Pinah est belle et vaut le détour.
19 Epupa-Kamanjab 450km - 6h30 Rusting Toko Lodge (Kamanjab area) Il faut parfois faire de longues étapes... Ça ne sera pas la plus mémorable de votre voyage c'est sûr, mais c'est parfaitement faisable. À partir d'Opuwo, c'est du goudron tout droit.
Ça prend très bonne tournure. Vraiment, c'est bien d'avoir 4 semaines ! 🙂
Juste une bricole : 3 Keetmanshoop - Hobas (River Fish) - 155 km - 3h30 à 4h Hobas Camp 4 River Fish Hobas Camp 5 River Fish - Aus - 280 km - 4h Klein Aus Vista Camp 2 nuits à Hobas ne sont pas nécessaires. En en passant une, vous aurez les vues du canyon au coucher et au lever du soleil. Parfaitement suffisant. Ensuite, plutôt deux nuits à Aus pour faire l'aller/retour à Lüderitz et Kolmanskop (ou une nuit à Aus, puis une nuit à Lüderitz). Entre le canyon et Aus, la route le long de l'Orange River puis via Rosh Pinah est belle et vaut le détour.
19 Epupa-Kamanjab 450km - 6h30 Rusting Toko Lodge (Kamanjab area) Il faut parfois faire de longues étapes... Ça ne sera pas la plus mémorable de votre voyage c'est sûr, mais c'est parfaitement faisable. À partir d'Opuwo, c'est du goudron tout droit.
On dirait le sud.😉
En cas d'aménagement du parcours, la journée 27 à Windhoek peut être sacrifiée si vous partez avec Air Namibia : on largement le temps de faire un tour en ville pendant la journée avant d'embarquer le soir.
En faisant attention que, à Windhoek, les magasins sont fermés de chez fermés le Samedi après midi et le dimanche.
Bonne préparation Franck
Bonjour Le dimanche matin à Windhoek, voire toute la journée, on trouve des trucs ouverts, des supermarchés pas mal achalandés.
Anne-Marie
En faisant attention que, à Windhoek, les magasins sont fermés de chez fermés le Samedi après midi et le dimanche.
Bonne préparation Franck
Bonjour Le dimanche matin à Windhoek, voire toute la journée, on trouve des trucs ouverts, des supermarchés pas mal achalandés.
Anne-Marie
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Bonjour
Je vais venir mettre un peu le bazar sur la partie que je connais, je peu?😄
J'avais vu Lüderitz mais je ne le vois plus... Quand on est à Aus, je trouve ça super dommage de ne pas pousser jusqu'à Kolmanskop, c'est dans le top de nos souvenirs de Namibie (par contre, ça ferme à 13h et il faut acheter les billets dans Lüderitz).
Walvis Bay n'est pas une ville très agréable en elle-même, je n'y avais pas trouvé de camping j'ai peut-être mal cherché? Ah, je vois que tu dors à Swakopmund, si le temps est bien pourri, tu gagneras quelques degrés en poussant à Sofia Dale, plus dans les terres. Parce qu'en septembre octobre, on est passé de 43° au Spitzkoppe à 19° à Swakopmund le lendemain et plutôt 14° le jour d'après, ça fait un choc!
Je vois que tu passes tout près de Twyvelfontein sans y aller ou tu ne l'as pas écrit? La visite n'est pas très longue mais c'est beau...
On a fait comme toi, deux nuits à Okaukuejo et on était ravi parce que ce point d'eau, quelle merveille!!!
Bons préparatifs.
Anne-Marie Carnet Namibie 2012
Anne-Marie Carnet Namibie 2012
Carnets : Namibie en camping car, l'Est de l'Afrique du Sud, du KTP au Kaokoland en 4x4, la Norvège en hiver 2x, l'Ecosse en hiver, la Namibie avec remorque, l'Islande en camping car en juin, le tout avec 4 enfants, dans le profil https://voyageforum.com/v.f?membre=Caperam;
Ma pauvre!
Ton message était le troisième le même jour sur le même sujet (ce que tu as bien compris dans ton titre😉).
Vous disposez d'une durée confortable pour cette boucle que beaucoup font en moins de temps et vous n'oubliez rien (je suppose que ne pas aller au sud est un choix). Pour ma part je ne saurais vous conseiller dans le détail des étapes, déjà que j'y arrive pas pour moi.😏🙂
c' est devenu le Grau du roi la Namibie ! 🏴☠️
Vous disposez d'une durée confortable pour cette boucle que beaucoup font en moins de temps et vous n'oubliez rien (je suppose que ne pas aller au sud est un choix). Pour ma part je ne saurais vous conseiller dans le détail des étapes, déjà que j'y arrive pas pour moi.😏🙂
c' est devenu le Grau du roi la Namibie ! 🏴☠️
chris06
Merci à tous...
Je prends note de vos suggestions... Et je modifie : 1 nuit de plus à Aus pour pousser jusqu'à Lüderitz... Une nuit de moins à Hobas... Pour le reste on avisera...
Je n'ai pas eu de conseils sur le Village Himba (à partir de Puros, de Epupa ou autre).
Cela nous fait tout drôle de devoir 8 mois à l'avance établir un itinéraire... et faire des réservations !
Eh oui ! c'est bien d'avoir 4 semaines... Un peu moins bien d'avoir notre âge 🤪... et un peu moins bien pour le budget...
Après avoir passé 5 semaines avec un tout petit budget au Vietnam-Cambodge (l'année dernière) et au Pérou-Bolivie, avec un budget moyen en Patagonie (de Santiago à Buenos Aires, Ushuaia et le Cap Horn) et dans le Transsibérien (de Moscou à Pékin), nous voilà dans la Cour des Grands... Mais on ne sera jamais aussi jeunes pour dépenser nos sous !!!😉
Merci encore...
Maguy
Quelques blogs de Maguy et Daniel :
http://gauchet-bali.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-srilanka.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-cuba.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-namibie.blogspot.fr/
Bonjour Maguy,
Visiter un village himba...
À Purros, le village est artificiel.
À Epupa, avec Omarunga, on y va en voiture-safari, comme pour partir en game drive. 🤪🤪🤪
À Opuwo, on trouve tout et n'importe quoi.
Je dirais plutôt à partir d'Epupa, mais avec un guide local. On en rencontre partout en se baladant un peu.
Bonjour,
Le voyage commence à prendre forme... Merci pour tous les bons conseils... Mais avant de vous adresser la dernière mouture, j'aimerais une précision :
Concernant Fish River : Une étape Hobas-Aus, par Ai-Ais et Rosh Pinah est-elle envisageable en 1 jour ou faut-il compter 2 jours ? Dans ce cas où est-il préférable de stopper pour la nuit ??? (Nous aurons un 4x4 avec tente sur le toit...)
Merci
Maguy
Quelques blogs de Maguy et Daniel :
http://gauchet-bali.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-srilanka.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-cuba.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-namibie.blogspot.fr/
Bonjour Maguy,
C'est bien de rester 2 nuits à Okaukuejo ( le camp est bien placé et cela vous fera gagner du temps pour pouvoir profiter pleinement de la journée). Sympa aussi 2 nuits à Purros et à Epupa, superbes endroits.
En revanche, sauf si vous avez l'intention d'y retourner je trouve dommage d'aller 4 semaines en Namibie et ne pas faire au moins une incursion dans le Caprivi. Le Caprivi est différent, plus peuplé, plus Africain, au niveau flore on est en milieu humide et au niveau faune ... et bien on a ceux qui aiment l'humide, hippo, crocos, buffles, ...
Une incursion aurait pu s'articuler après Etosha: Rundu - Mahango - Sakhawe (2 nuits à la naissance du delta de l'Okavango 🙂) Tsodilo Hills et retour en Namibie par Tsumkwe (chez les Sans). S'aurait été plus varié.
Cordialement
Max
C'est bien de rester 2 nuits à Okaukuejo ( le camp est bien placé et cela vous fera gagner du temps pour pouvoir profiter pleinement de la journée). Sympa aussi 2 nuits à Purros et à Epupa, superbes endroits.
En revanche, sauf si vous avez l'intention d'y retourner je trouve dommage d'aller 4 semaines en Namibie et ne pas faire au moins une incursion dans le Caprivi. Le Caprivi est différent, plus peuplé, plus Africain, au niveau flore on est en milieu humide et au niveau faune ... et bien on a ceux qui aiment l'humide, hippo, crocos, buffles, ...
Une incursion aurait pu s'articuler après Etosha: Rundu - Mahango - Sakhawe (2 nuits à la naissance du delta de l'Okavango 🙂) Tsodilo Hills et retour en Namibie par Tsumkwe (chez les Sans). S'aurait été plus varié.
Cordialement
Max
Voilà ce que donne mon itinéraire à l'heure actuelle (et je ne pense pas beaucoup le modifier !!!)Arrivée à Windhoek le matin (Air Namibia) - Mariental - Camp Bagatelle KalahariMariental - Keetmanchoop - Guivertree Forest Rest CampKeetmanshoop - Hobas (River Fixh) - Hobas CampRiver Fish - Ai Ais - Rosh Pinah - Aus - Klein Aus Vista CampAus (peut-être Luderitz ou balades à pied, suivant courage !) - Klein Aus Vista CampAus - Ranch KoiimasisRanch Koiimasis - Sesriem - Sesriem CampsiteSesriem - Sossusvlei-Sesriem Campsite
Sesriem - Solitaire - Namibrens (Gecko Camp)Gecko Camp - Swakopmund (Alte Bruücke Camp)
Walvis Bay (bateau vers Pelican Point et 4x4 à Sandwich Harbour) - (Alte Bruücke Camp)Swakopmund-Capte Cross (otaries) Spitzkoppe (Spitzkoppe Rest Camp)Skitzkoppe - D2612 (Aabadi Camp)D2612 - Palmag - Khowarib (Khowarib Communit Campsite)Khowarib - Sesfontein - Puros (Puros Camp site)PurosPuros - Sesfontein - 70 km au nord : Camp AussitchCamp Aussitch - Opuwo - EpupaEpupa (village Himba)Epupa - Kamanjab (Rusting Toko Lodge)Kamanjab - Outjo - OkaukuejoOkaukuejoOkaukuejo - JalaliHalali - NamutoniNamutoni - Tsumeb - Grootfontein - Grashoek (route de Tsumkwe) - Camp San de GrashoekGrashoeg - Otjiwarongo - Okonjima (Omboroko campsite)Okonjima-WindhoekWindhoek et départLes résas pour l'avion sont faites depuis ce matin (Air Namibie pour le mois de septembre (du 1 au 28 sur place)... Le père Noël a été généreux !
Je loue chez Camping Car Hire un Nissan 4x4 double cab (avec tente sur le toit)... J'ai demandé quelques devis et il me semble intéressant. Je me suis d'ailleurs assez fiée à GENEVOIS qui a donné sur le forum un compte-rendu détaillé et très pratique de son circuit en septembre dernier : "Out of Namibia". Par ailleurs j'ai tenu compte des nombreux commentaires et conseils. Toutefois j'ai volontairement délaissé la bande de Caprivi, à cause du palu... Pourtant je crois que cela m'aurait intéressé : ça semble très joli !!! Mais moi les moustiques, je crains ! Seulement Epupa pour le nord !!! Merci à tous ceux qui m'ont aidé à élaborer ce projet... tant en discussions publiques que privées : je n'ose les énumérer car j'en oublierais certainement... Joyeuses fêtes à tous... Maguy
Je loue chez Camping Car Hire un Nissan 4x4 double cab (avec tente sur le toit)... J'ai demandé quelques devis et il me semble intéressant. Je me suis d'ailleurs assez fiée à GENEVOIS qui a donné sur le forum un compte-rendu détaillé et très pratique de son circuit en septembre dernier : "Out of Namibia". Par ailleurs j'ai tenu compte des nombreux commentaires et conseils. Toutefois j'ai volontairement délaissé la bande de Caprivi, à cause du palu... Pourtant je crois que cela m'aurait intéressé : ça semble très joli !!! Mais moi les moustiques, je crains ! Seulement Epupa pour le nord !!! Merci à tous ceux qui m'ont aidé à élaborer ce projet... tant en discussions publiques que privées : je n'ose les énumérer car j'en oublierais certainement... Joyeuses fêtes à tous... Maguy
Quelques blogs de Maguy et Daniel :
http://gauchet-bali.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-srilanka.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-cuba.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-namibie.blogspot.fr/
Tu tiens le bon bout. Plus qu'à attendre 8 mois !
Quelques remarques de détail...
- le détour vers Ai Ais est inutile et pour le coup la journée deviendrait longue.
- j'espere que le Nissan que tu as en vue n'est pas un hardbody essence. C'est in engin poussif et glouton qui fait l'unanimite contre lui. Un bon véhicule, c'est important, on passe du temps dedans.
- on y à toujours pris de la malarone au cas où mais. Il n'y a pas de paludisme ni quasi aucun moustique dans le caprivi en septembre
j'ai volontairement délaissé la bande de Caprivi, à cause du palu...
palu dans le Caprivi à la fin de la saison sèche et de l"hiver 😮 jamais entendu parler.
Cela n'empêche que vous avez un beau programme
Bonne chance et joyeux noël
Max
palu dans le Caprivi à la fin de la saison sèche et de l"hiver 😮 jamais entendu parler.
Cela n'empêche que vous avez un beau programme
Bonne chance et joyeux noël
Max
Merci pour ta réponse,
Je t'avais envoyé un message privé parcequ'il y avait risque de mauvaise interprétation quand on cite un nom d'entreprise privée...mais j'ai vu que tu avais posté ton message en discussion publique, ce que je trouve plus conforme à l'esprit d'un forum voyageur.
Je suis heureux que le "Père Noël" ait su répondre à tes besoins et te souhaite beaucoup de plaisir à peaufiner vos préparatifs et à rêver avant la réalité.
J'ai pour ma part un peu de retard sur le lancement de mon projet, traînant l'aspect financier encore trop comme un boulet freinant mes ardeurs, puisse ton enthousiasme m'y aider: il n'y a pas de problèmes, que des solutions, donc des choix.
Pour répondre à Voyajou, je parlais de la présentation sur le site Value, ne les ayant pas encore contacté directement, ce que je vais certainement faire pour savoir si c'est possible de ne prendre qu'une tente et ...pit'être obtenir une petite ristourne.
Et à tou(te)s les forumnistes de tous les continents : "que vos derniers rêves de cette année finissante vous porte encore plus loin que tous les véhicules que nos techniques ont pu créer".
C'est certainement celà le pouvoir illimité de l'imagination.
Je reviendrai certainement trés bientôt solliciter vos écoutes que je sais attentives et altruistes....djingle bells, djingle bells...Bon, je m'arrête là , l'esprit de Noêl m'ayant un peu possédé aujourd'hui, ou....à bien réfléchir je me demande si ce ne serait pas le petit vendange tardive suivi du médoc (20 ans d'âge tout de même) de ce midi.
Thierry
- j'espere que le Nissan que tu as en vue n'est pas un hardbody essence. C'est un engin poussif et glouton qui fait l'unanimite contre lui. Un bon véhicule, c'est important, on passe du temps dedans.
Vérification faite, c'est bien ce type de 4x4 que loue Camping Car Hire... 😕 Ça explique le prix raisonnable.
Vérification faite, c'est bien ce type de 4x4 que loue Camping Car Hire... 😕 Ça explique le prix raisonnable.
Merci Pierre pour l'info,
J'ai écrit à Camping Car Hire qui confirme louer le NP 300 Hardbody !!!
Odyssey propose à des prix similaires en définitive pour 27 jours (réduction de 20% en raison de la durée) une Toyota HiLux (pas de pneus mixtes apparemment)... ça semble assez bien (encore que je n'y connaisse absolument rien !!!). Qu'en pensez-vous ? (J'ai lu que vos amis étaient passés par cette agence).
Petit problème pour moi : Camping Car Hire faisait les résas des campsites, et pas Odyssey ! Où puis-je m'adresser pour avoir les résas des principaux camps (Bagatelle, Sesriem, Epupa et ETOSHA au moins ! et peut-être d'autres !) sans avoir à intervenir personnellement pour chacun...
Merci à tous ceux qui voudront bien éclairer ma lanterne !
Maguy
Quelques blogs de Maguy et Daniel :
http://gauchet-bali.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-srilanka.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-cuba.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-namibie.blogspot.fr/
Bonsoir Maguy,
Le Hardbody n'est pas un mauvais cheval en version 3.0 TD diesel ou 3.0 V6 essence. Il est un peu plus petit que le Hilux, mais pour deux, ça va très bien. La version problématique, c'est le 2.4i essence, sous-motorisé, poussif, glouton et sans agrément de conduite. Mais comme l'a rappelé l'ami Voyajou sur un autre fil récemment : c'est avec un tel engin que j'ai fait ma première découverte de la Namibie (à 4, quand j'étais jeune... 😉) et il s'en faut que ça m'ait dégoûté du pays et de la région. On peut faire avec si le budget est serré !
J'ai effectivement cotoyé plusieurs fois des véhicules d'Odyssey, dont un bon bout de chemin au Kaokoland, ils louent de bons véhicule. Le problème des pneus que tu soulèves sera le même avec tous les loueurs (sauf modèle spécialement équipé) : si le 4x4 est presque neuf, il aura ses pneus d'origine qui sont des pneus routes. Les loueurs ne vont pas les enlever des 4x4 neufs livrés comme ça et les jeter ! Sur le trajet que vous envisagez, avec les 2 roues de secours fournies, pas de problème particulier en pneus routes, mais prends l'option pour qu'ils soient assurés.
Pour des résas groupées, par exemple : www.namibiareservations.com Il en existe bien d'autres !
Le Hardbody n'est pas un mauvais cheval en version 3.0 TD diesel ou 3.0 V6 essence. Il est un peu plus petit que le Hilux, mais pour deux, ça va très bien. La version problématique, c'est le 2.4i essence, sous-motorisé, poussif, glouton et sans agrément de conduite. Mais comme l'a rappelé l'ami Voyajou sur un autre fil récemment : c'est avec un tel engin que j'ai fait ma première découverte de la Namibie (à 4, quand j'étais jeune... 😉) et il s'en faut que ça m'ait dégoûté du pays et de la région. On peut faire avec si le budget est serré !
J'ai effectivement cotoyé plusieurs fois des véhicules d'Odyssey, dont un bon bout de chemin au Kaokoland, ils louent de bons véhicule. Le problème des pneus que tu soulèves sera le même avec tous les loueurs (sauf modèle spécialement équipé) : si le 4x4 est presque neuf, il aura ses pneus d'origine qui sont des pneus routes. Les loueurs ne vont pas les enlever des 4x4 neufs livrés comme ça et les jeter ! Sur le trajet que vous envisagez, avec les 2 roues de secours fournies, pas de problème particulier en pneus routes, mais prends l'option pour qu'ils soient assurés.
Pour des résas groupées, par exemple : www.namibiareservations.com Il en existe bien d'autres !
Maguy,
Sur ton circuit "que tu ne vas guère changer" et surtout si "tu n'y connais rien", le Nissan avec un moteur essence 2.4L fera très bien l'affaire. Sinon tu peux essayer avec ça (moi ça me plairait beaucoup😉):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DA0I18Q42U
Sur ton circuit "que tu ne vas guère changer" et surtout si "tu n'y connais rien", le Nissan avec un moteur essence 2.4L fera très bien l'affaire. Sinon tu peux essayer avec ça (moi ça me plairait beaucoup😉):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DA0I18Q42U
Tu en ai rendu à envisager une mini ... z'êtes pas parti ! 😉
J'ai ça dans la famille, une Countryman Cooper S, je te garantis que sur les gravel ce doit être un pur plaisir à conduire (trop) vite.
Si si je pars bientôt, au pire en voiture de location.
Si si je pars bientôt, au pire en voiture de location.
Bonjour Maguy,
Même adresse que celle conseillée par Pierre.
cfr mon avis ici.
Agence très réactive, sérieuse et bien pratique.
Pour le véhicule tu peux voir avec les loueurs repris par les agences (qui ne sont qu'une !), perso nous sommes passés par African tracks et en avons été satisfaits (mais nous ne passions pas par des pistes dures type certaines du nord Kaokoland).
Bonne prépa ! 😉
Michelle
Youpi !!!
On ne se demande plus quelle voiture on va prendre : c'est la préférée de mon mari !!!
Seul petit hic ! où caser la tente sur le toit ???
Merci pour ce petit divertissement...
Maguy
Quelques blogs de Maguy et Daniel :
http://gauchet-bali.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-srilanka.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-cuba.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-namibie.blogspot.fr/
Merci Michèle,
Je fais mes résas cette semaine... J'ai été sur le site indiqué et j'ai vu que tout était très organisé... Mon planning est fait... Je pars en septembre, dois-je tout réserver ou ai-je de la place pour "l'imprévu" ???
Bizarrement dans ton lien, tu répondais à Pepifleuf qui se posait les mêmes questions que moi ! Tout réserver et voyager en 4x4 alors que les voyages précédents faisaient appel au transport en commun et tenaient compte des rencontres (avec les gens, of course !!!🙂) et de tous les aléas (avec de tellement bons souvenirs !)... ça change !!! Ici, cela fait un peu carcan et c'est cela qui m'inquiète un peu... Mais on s'y fera !
Bonne soirée
Maguy
Quelques blogs de Maguy et Daniel :
http://gauchet-bali.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-srilanka.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-cuba.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-namibie.blogspot.fr/
The show must go on!😏
http://www.drivesouthafrica.co.za/4x4-hire/model/camper-discoverer-bo/
(j'ai vérifié: le toit d'une mini est infiniment😇 plus grand que celui d'un Jimny)
Ici, cela fait un peu carcan
Est-ce que tu ne t'encarcanerais pas un peu toute seule?😛 Ce mot est totalement antinomique avec l'expérience australe.🙂
http://www.drivesouthafrica.co.za/4x4-hire/model/camper-discoverer-bo/
(j'ai vérifié: le toit d'une mini est infiniment😇 plus grand que celui d'un Jimny)
Ici, cela fait un peu carcan
Est-ce que tu ne t'encarcanerais pas un peu toute seule?😛 Ce mot est totalement antinomique avec l'expérience australe.🙂
Je pars en septembre, dois-je tout réserver ou ai-je de la place pour "l'imprévu" ???
Septembre est très couru et les distances entre 2 camps ou lodges sont parfois longues ! Si tu comptes loger 4 nuits à Etosha insiste bien pour avoir tes 2 nuits à Okakuejo !
Ici, cela fait un peu carcan
Un carcan de rêve alors ! 🙂 Beaucoup aimeraient avoir un tel "carcan", tu comprendras lorsque tu découvriras La Merveille ! 😉
Septembre est très couru et les distances entre 2 camps ou lodges sont parfois longues ! Si tu comptes loger 4 nuits à Etosha insiste bien pour avoir tes 2 nuits à Okakuejo !
Ici, cela fait un peu carcan
Un carcan de rêve alors ! 🙂 Beaucoup aimeraient avoir un tel "carcan", tu comprendras lorsque tu découvriras La Merveille ! 😉
Michelle
Trop libre pour m'"encarcaner" !!!😇
On dira donc qu'en Nanibie c'est un carcan de diamants !!!😉 Maguy
On dira donc qu'en Nanibie c'est un carcan de diamants !!!😉 Maguy
Quelques blogs de Maguy et Daniel :
http://gauchet-bali.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-srilanka.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-cuba.blogspot.fr/
http://gauchet-namibie.blogspot.fr/
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We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
Hi everyone!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
Hi
Any feedback on the agency Mon Guide Zanzibar?
Hi everyone,
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Hello,
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
Hi everyone,
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
Hello everyone,
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
Hi everyone,
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
hi there
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works. I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!! I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh… Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car?? If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali? Thanks so much for your help… Best regards
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works. I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!! I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh… Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car?? If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali? Thanks so much for your help… Best regards
Hey everyone,
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be: - Hwange - Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona) - Mana Pools - Harare - Gonarezhou - Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be: - Hwange - Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona) - Mana Pools - Harare - Gonarezhou - Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
hi there
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work. I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts. So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza Ngenda Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas) Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions: -Is French still widely spoken? -Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info? -Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back? -Is it possible to go hiking solo? -Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share. Looking forward to exchanging more!
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work. I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts. So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza Ngenda Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas) Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions: -Is French still widely spoken? -Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info? -Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back? -Is it possible to go hiking solo? -Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share. Looking forward to exchanging more!
Hi everyone,
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind. I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south: 14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie 17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza 20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara 22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants 25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere. 28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel. 29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance! Nicole Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind. I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south: 14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie 17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza 20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara 22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants 25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere. 28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel. 29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance! Nicole Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’d like to return to Africa and stay in a lodge where I can see animals—not necessarily the Big Five—without needing any transport once I arrive at the lodge, and at a price under $250 per day for two people with full board. The week-long stay is planned for late June into early July. I’m looking for suggestions. Thanks in advance!
Hi, I’d like to travel to Ethiopia as a solo 60-year-old woman, backpacking style, between December 2025 and January 2026.
I’m wondering about the current state of the country: unrest, safety concerns, etc.
Government websites advise against going, saying it’s too dangerous.
But I’m skeptical—they tend to be overly cautious.
So I’m looking for reliable information, though I’m not sure where to find it.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re a group of four seventy-something retirees and we’re planning a 4-week trip to South Africa. We’re seasoned "adventurers" used to multi-week stays (we’ve been to India seven times, Mexico, Thailand, Laos, Myanmar, Australia, etc.).
For South Africa, we’re thinking of covering most of the trip in a private vehicle and taking flights for inter-state transfers. We’re interested in meeting people, learning about the country’s evolution, exploring major cities, visiting traditional villages, and seeing wildlife.
Here’s the itinerary we’re considering: Johannesburg – 2 days (we’ll pass through again later) Pretoria – 2 days Blyde River Canyon and Graskop – 1 day Acornhoek – 1 day Letaba – 2 days Lobamba – 2 days Johannesburg – 1 day
Flight to Cape Town
Cape Town – 3 days Cape of Good Hope – 1 day Stellenbosch – 1 day Hermanus – 1 day Mossel Bay – 2 days Oudtshoorn Wilderness – 2 days Knysna Port Elizabeth – 2 days Addo Elephant Park
Flight back to Johannesburg
Johannesburg – 1 day
Return to Paris
Could you share your thoughts on this itinerary? We’ll be renting a vehicle to explore both regions. We can easily add 4–5 more days to the trip if needed.
We’re looking at traveling either between April and May 2026 or in October/November 2026.
I’ll follow up later to discuss the best safari options and get a rough budget estimate.
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this and share their thoughts!
For South Africa, we’re thinking of covering most of the trip in a private vehicle and taking flights for inter-state transfers. We’re interested in meeting people, learning about the country’s evolution, exploring major cities, visiting traditional villages, and seeing wildlife.
Here’s the itinerary we’re considering: Johannesburg – 2 days (we’ll pass through again later) Pretoria – 2 days Blyde River Canyon and Graskop – 1 day Acornhoek – 1 day Letaba – 2 days Lobamba – 2 days Johannesburg – 1 day
Flight to Cape Town
Cape Town – 3 days Cape of Good Hope – 1 day Stellenbosch – 1 day Hermanus – 1 day Mossel Bay – 2 days Oudtshoorn Wilderness – 2 days Knysna Port Elizabeth – 2 days Addo Elephant Park
Flight back to Johannesburg
Johannesburg – 1 day
Return to Paris
Could you share your thoughts on this itinerary? We’ll be renting a vehicle to explore both regions. We can easily add 4–5 more days to the trip if needed.
We’re looking at traveling either between April and May 2026 or in October/November 2026.
I’ll follow up later to discuss the best safari options and get a rough budget estimate.
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this and share their thoughts!







