A peine rentrés de notre roadtrip en Islande que le prochain se met en place tout doucement: ce sera les parcs de l'Ouest américain:)
Avion booké, Jeep Cherokee Sport également:)
Nous connaissons deja SF, LA, LV, Death Valley et Grand Canyon. Enfin une des deux personnes.
Habitues au kilometres, nous ne sommes pas de grands marcheurs donc peu de trails et des trails faciles et rapides. Nous sommes plus a rouler, s arrêter aux points de vue, au gré de nos envies...
Pourriez vous nous jeter un coup d oeil à notre ebauche d itinéraire et nous apporter tous les conseils que vous jugez utiles:)
Ayant postule à la loterie pour The Wave, peut être devrons nous changer notre planing... je reve mais qui sait...!!! lil
Merci à vous
Mayke
J1 (Jeudi, 23 Juin 2016)
Matin : .
Midi : .
APM : Los Angeles. Arrivée à 16h
Soir : Los Angeles.
J2 (Vendredi, 24 Juin 2016)
Matin, Midi et APM : .
Soir : kingman.
J3 (Samedi, 25 Juin 2016)
Matin : .
Midi, APM et Soir : Grand Canyon NP (South Rim).
J4 (Dimanche, 26 Juin 2016)
Matin : Grand Canyon NP (South Rim).
Midi : .
APM : Monument Valley.
Soir : Monument Valley.
J5 (Lundi, 27 Juin 2016)
Matin : .
Midi : Arches NP.
APM : .
Soir : Région de Moab.
J6 (Mardi, 28 Juin 2016)
Matin : Canyonlands NP (Island in the Sky).
Midi : Canyonlands NP (Island in the Sky).
APM : .
Soir : la Scenic Drive 12. nuit à boulder
J7 (Mercredi, 29 Juin 2016)
Matin : .
Midi : .
APM : Bryce Canyon NP.
Soir : Bryce Canyon NP.
J8 (Jeudi, 30 Juin 2016)
Matin : Bryce Canyon NP.
Midi : .
APM : Zion NP.
Soir : Zion NP.
J9 (Vendredi, 01 Juillet 2016)
Matin : Page et sa région.
Midi : .
APM : .
Soir : Page et sa région.
J10 (Samedi, 02 Juillet 2016)
Matin, Midi et APM : .
Soir : Page et sa région.
J11 (Dimanche, 03 Juillet 2016)
Matin : .
Midi : US89A.
APM : Valley of Fire SP.
Soir : Las Vegas.
J12 (Lundi, 04 Juillet 2016)
Matin, Midi et APM : .
Soir : Las Vegas.
J13 (Mardi, 05 Juillet 2016)
Matin : .
Midi, APM et Soir : Death Valley NP.
J14 (Mercredi, 06 Juillet 2016)
Matin : Death Valley NP.
Midi : Death Valley NP.
APM : .
Soir : Los Angeles.
J15 (Jeudi, 07 Juillet 2016)
Matin, Midi et APM : .
Soir : Los Angeles.
J16 (Vendredi, 08 Juillet 2016)
Matin : .
Midi : .
APM : Trajet en avion. retour paris 15h30
Soir : .
Distance totale : 2075 miles (soit 3340 kilomètres).
USA 2018 - Arizona, chez les indiens... https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=9061068;#9061068
USA 2014 – Là où vous n'aviez pas pensé aller https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6769327;#6769327
USA 2012 "Au long du Rio Grande" https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=5290732;#5290732
J avais pense aussi mettre Page entre Grand canyon village et Monument valley en faisant un crochet mais dans ces cas la, impossible de faire la route US89A pour longer les Vermillions Cliffs...
L'arrivée et le départ de Los Angeles ne sont pas du tout optimum, j'aurais plutôt vu Vegas ou Phoenix mais je suppose que les billets sont pris.
Pour Moab, même sans randonner, ce n'est pas suffisant, tu ne vas pas arrêter de courir et rater le principal.
Je réserverais pour un autre voyage.
De Mexican Hat prends la 95 : Moki Dugway - Muley Point - Natural Bridges NM - Hite Marina - Little Egypt - Factory Butte - Nuit Torrey
Apparemment oui (au début du topic , il est dit "Avion booké")
Et comme toi, je trouve ça bien dommage: y avait moyen de faire mieux en ne perdant pas de temps en trajet inintéressant et inutile (d'autant plus qd on n'a que déjà que 15 jours sur place🤪).
C'est pourtant pas faute de le dire et de le répéter sans cesse que le retour (ou arrivée) depuis Las Vegas ou Phoenix fait gagner pas mal de km et donc de temps🙂
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
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Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Russia and Mongolia, starting from France.
Crossing the border at Poland/Belarus or Georgia/Russia—other borders seem either closed or complicated.
Tourist visas for 3 months with multiple entries.
Do you have any info on Russian companies that cover a 4x4 vehicle for 3 months, and what prices in rubles or euros you’ve paid?
Which bank did you use for expenses? (EuroMastercard and Visa cards no longer work.)
Regarding Russian SIM cards, a new system called "Gosuslugi" has been introduced. How long did it take you to get one, and what steps did you follow?
Hi,
we’re planning to visit a park again.
Could you point us toward the camps in Gonarezhou Park?
>We’re traveling completely self-sufficiently.
We love wildlife.
Thanks for any tips you can share!
JP
Hi there, we’ll be in Mozambique in early December 2026 and we’d like to travel from Vilanculos to Beira by car or bus to reach Beira airport. After that, we’re planning to visit Gorongosa National Park before flying back to France from Beira. From what we’ve heard, the road to Beira is tricky, especially at this time of year (start of the rainy season). Could anyone share their thoughts or suggest a solution? Thanks so much for your help!
Anne
Hi there,
I’m heading to Lesotho in a few days and I’m struggling to find info on the best route between Katse Dam and Sehlathebe National Park. There’s a fairly "direct" route from Thaba Tseka, but the roads seem rough, and we’re not exactly 4x4 pros. Anyone have any tips to share? Thanks!
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Mozambique in October and are looking for either a 4x4 or 4x2 rental in Maputo, or a driver transfer option to reach:
- Ponta Do Ouro
- Tofo
- Vilankulos
The idea is to be self-sufficient for sightseeing and stops while still being able to access certain lodges or beaches that require a 4x2.
Do you have any contacts, addresses, or ideas to share?
Thanks in advance,
Hello,
We're hitting the road again in 2027 to discover new countries and cultures.
Could anyone give me some tips on driving from Ulaanbaatar to Lake Baikal and the route to take?
Thanks, and safe travels to those who are setting off!
We’re planning a 4x4 trip from Belgium to Central Asia, passing through Georgia, Russia, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, and Kyrgyzstan.
For these countries, our national insurance obviously doesn’t cover the vehicle, so we’ll need to get local insurance.
Will it be a problem if the vehicle is registered under person A and the national insurance is under person B? Both A and B will be in the vehicle, and both will be listed as drivers on the insurance.
When we get the local insurance, if we again list A and B as drivers, does the order matter? Could we get stuck at the border for this reason?
Hi,
For those who’ve driven on Iceland’s gravel roads in their own or a rented Duster, could you tell me what tires were fitted on the vehicle?
Were they All Terrain tires or more "standard" ones like all-season tires, for example?
Follow-up question: if they were "standard" tires, did that cause any issues on the gravel roads and rough terrain?
Thanks so much for any info you can share.
Best,
Marc
Hi there,
I'm planning a 4x4 road trip from Darwin to Broome with a rooftop tent in July 2026.
I'd like to know if I need to book overnight stops in advance or if I can just wing it and stop wherever I feel like it?
Some evenings, we'd like to stop and make use of campsite facilities (restaurant, shop, showers, toilets).
What do you recommend?
Do I need a permit?
My rough itinerary looks like this:
Darwin - Kakadu
Kakadu - Nitmiluk
Nitmiluk - Kununurra
Kununurra - Purnululu
Purnululu - El Questro
El Questro - Mt Elizabeth - Bell Gorge - Broome
I’m planning a trip to Iceland for next July-August, with a car and tent, and I’m wondering about booking campsites.
From your experience, is it necessary or even essential to book campsites in advance, or do you always manage to find a spot to pitch your tent?
We’ll also have the option to sleep in the car without pitching the tent.
Does that give us the flexibility to stay outside a campsite for a night here and there?
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip in the Middle Atlas, starting and ending in Fez and heading down to the south of Midelt, the Assoul Massif.... We’ll be traveling with two small 4x4s.
I’m looking for detailed maps of this region that include small roads and tracks.
Last year, we had a fantastic road trip in the Anti-Atlas and High Atlas using Erfahren maps, but unfortunately, they don’t cover the area we’re interested in this year.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Dominique
We’re planning a 13-day family road trip in Morocco this July, with six people in a Toyota Prado 4x4 (renting in Marrakech).
We’ll alternate between bivouacking and small hotels/riads depending on the stops.
Here’s the planned route (in this order):
Marrakech
→ Ouarzazate
→ Draa Valley
→ Zagora
→ Erg Chegaga
→ Lake Iriki
→ Foum Zguid
→ Tata
→ Tafraoute
→ Aït Mansour
→ Tiznit
→ Mirleft
→ Taroudant
→ Back to Marrakech
Our goal:
Atlas Mountains + desert + dunes + plateaus + valleys + a bit of coastline.
We’ll cover about 1,700 km in total.
We’re planning:
Bivouacking in the Chegaga/Iriki area
Flexible for the rest (booking the day before or same day)
Sand gear: traction plates, compressor, tow strap, roof rack
Questions:
Is the Zagora → Chegaga → Iriki → Foum Zguid crossing in July doable on our own (single vehicle, no guide)?
Are there any truly technical or risky sections between Chegaga and Iriki?
Does the overall itinerary seem manageable in 13 days without rushing?
Any suggestions for great bivouac spots or particularly interesting stops along this route?
The points on the route are provisional overnight stops. Some spots will include two nights in the same area.
We’re used to off-road driving, but not yet in the Moroccan desert.
Thanks in advance for your feedback and tips! 😊
Good evening
I could use some advice 🙂
Our trip to Namibia is planned for June/July 2026.
We’re struggling a bit with timing and choosing activities for the part of the trip between Sesriem and Brandberg.
Day 1: Sesriem to Mirabib
Day 2: Mirabib to Swakopmund – visit Swakopmund, overnight in Swakopmund
Day 3: Sandwich Harbour – overnight in Swakopmund
Day 4: Kayaking with the seals + the living dunes – overnight in Swakopmund
Day 5: Moon Landscape, Henties Bay + Cape Cross – overnight at White Lady Lodge in Brandberg
Does this itinerary seem realistic to you? Is Cape Cross really worth the trip? If I had to choose between Cape Cross and kayaking with the seals, which would you recommend?
Thanks in advance for your help!
Hélix
My son and I are heading to Georgia this summer to explore the High Caucasus (Svaneti, Kazbek, and Tusheti regions). For this, we’re planning to rent a 4x4.
However, the rental agencies we’ve found prohibit driving on the tracks to Omalo (Tusheti) and/or Ushguli (Svaneti).
Do you know of any agencies in Tbilisi (local and reliable) that allow rented 4x4s to drive on these tracks? If so, which ones?
Hi everyone,
I’m starting to plan an itinerary for September 2027 focused on Zimbabwe and Zambia. I’d love to visit Gonarezhou National Park—I see there are two sectors: the Mwenezi Region in the south and the area around the Runde River in the north. Should I cover both sectors or just focus on the northern region?
For the parks along the Zambezi River, is it better to visit Mana Pools on the Zimbabwe side or Lower Zambezi on the Zambia side?
Thanks in advance for any tips on the parks in these two countries.
Have a great day, everyone.
We’re spending 18 days in New Zealand from 05/04 to 05/21, arriving in QUEENSTOWN and leaving from AUCKLAND.
Any ideas for a road trip that covers the highlights of both islands but only changes hotels every 3–4 nights?
Thanks.
Pour notre voyage en Georgie en juillet, je souhaite louer 4x4 au départ de Tbilisi.
Avez vous des loueurs à me recommander?
Les loueurs traditionnels type Hertz, Avis, etc .... paraissent hors de prix par rapport aux loueurs locaux?
que faut-il en penser ? sont-ils bien assurés?
L'un de vous a-t-il expérimenté Geo Rent Car ? Auto 4 rental? ou encore Sur Price?
D'autre part, je cherche des infos sur l'état de la piste Ushguli - Lentekhi, est-elle praticable?
Hi everyone,
A well-prepped 4x4, a travel plan across Africa in stages since I’ve got kids to see regularly and work to earn a living.
I’m leaving in November for about a month with the goal of reaching Senegal via Mauritania. I’d love to share this trip with someone who wants to discover Mauritania and a bit of Senegal... and also experience life on board a 4x4 in the desert or bush, sometimes sleeping in the vehicle or in hostels/small hotels for comfort. I want to share this rediscovery because two’s better than one!
Just traveling, exploring, and living! !
Je souhaite parcourir la Patagonie argentine et chilienne pendant 1 mois en décembre 2019.
Je suis donc à la recherche d'un (ou plusieurs) loueur(s) qui propose(nt) en location des pick-up 4x4 (mono-cabine car nous seront 2) avec une cellule aménagée.
Je parle bien d'un véhicule aménagé avec une douche à l'intérieur pour plus de confort ;)
Donc exit le van ! (du moins dans les loueurs que j'ai vu).
En parcourant le forum, j'ai vu le loueur Holiday Rent coté chilien. Mais avez-vous des adresses coté argentin ?
Car, à défaut de rendre le véhicule dans la même ville qu'au départ, je pense qu'il est préférable et moins cher de le rendre au moins dans le même pays.
I’m traveling through Argentina and Chile (as well as Paraguay and Uruguay) with a 2019 Toyota Hilux Euro 6. Could anyone tell me if the local diesel is suitable for its engine, or if I need to take any special precautions (like adding an additive, for example) for these countries?
I’d also like to know if driving at high altitudes is possible, and up to what elevation—or if I should worry about the vehicle going into limp mode?
If that happens, what should I do?
Hi there,
Can you tell me if the road between Zagora and M'Gouna is easy or difficult for a 4x4? How much time and how many kilometers should I plan for? I’m traveling in May.
Thanks!
Hi there,
My trip to South Africa is starting to take shape.
However, I'm struggling to figure out the route through Kruger Park. I can't seem to find the information I need about getting around.
Coming from the south, I plan to arrive on Day 1 in the early afternoon at Malelane or Crocodile Bridge.
Do some shopping in Malelane (or Crocodile Bridge main area) and stay overnight outside the park.
Leave on Day 2 at 5 AM for the park. Explore the southern part of the park.
Stay overnight around Skukuza or Lower Sabie. (We don’t want to stay in one of the park’s big camps. We’re looking for a lodge around 200 €.
Head out on Day 3 for a self-drive safari, maybe as far as Orpen.
We’d like to stay in a private reserve on nights 4 and 5.
We’re not sure which one or how to get into a private reserve. Do we need to exit Kruger Park?
On Day 5, we’d like to leave to visit Blyde Canyon (on Day 6).
Souhaitant quitter le Maroc durant l'été mais y laisser mon 4*4, afin de ne pas être pénaliser sur le fameux délai de 6 mois, je voudrais le parquer dans l'une des deux enclaves espagnoles (Cueta ou mellila)
Connaissez vous des gens ou des sociétés qui s'occupent sur place des parkings longue durée (sécurisés de préférence)
une fois la voiture déposée, quelle solution de transports publics pour rejoindre la France
aéroport le plus proche = Tanger depuis Cueta ?...
Comment rejoindre facilement cet aéroport etc etc
hello! I’d like to go to Kazakhstan and rent a fitted 4x4 locally so I can drive off-road trails and sleep inside the vehicle... could anyone share some local rental company addresses, please? Thanks! !
I'm about to rent a self-drive 4x4 in Mongolia. Has anyone heard of GOBI.RENT?
Otherwise, do you have any tips for checking this company since there's no info on their website (e.g., registration number on the RCS)?
I’m finalizing my trip starting from Namibia.
When I arrive in Divundu, I’d like to head straight to the Khwai area early in the morning to one of the campsites in the Khwai Development Trust. Is the drive doable with a good 4x4 in a day?
We’ll spend 2 nights in Khwai, then 2 or maybe 3 nights in the Moremi area (Third Bridge/Xakanaxa/Mboma) before heading back to Maun to wrap up our journey.
Is that too much time to spend in each place?
We’d also like to do one or two boat excursions in the delta. Any suggestions for the best options and operators?
Thanks in advance for your tips and advice!
Best,
Patrick
