Selle B17, oui mais laquelle?
by Chuperdu
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Salut,
Alors ça fait pas mal de temps que je suis les avis des uns et des autres pour l'achat d'une selle et j'ai donc décidé de prendre une Brooks B17, un modèle "standard" (pas trop chère)
Par contre j'ai du mal à voir quelle différence il y'a entre le modèle standard à 54 euros (sur le site : http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Categories.aspx?CategoryID=211 )
et le modèle cuivre Special Copper à 70 euros ?!
Je pensais prendre le modèle standard mais (pour quelques euros de plus) je me demande si le modèle en cuivre n'est pas mieux, en terme de confort ?
Donc est ce que "le cuivre" apporte quelques chose de plus en terme de confort (ou autre ?) ou bien c'est juste pour faire jolie...et dans ce cas je prendrai la standard.
Merci !
si tu vas sur le site de brooks tu as les détails
c'est juste de l'acier plaqué cuivre pour faire beau. voir le modèle b17 special dans classic> trekking&touring
http://www.brooksengland.com/shop/shopProductDetail.aspx?id=uid-20070521.173649.625.0000-7-00145E457A63--30
c'est juste de l'acier plaqué cuivre pour faire beau. voir le modèle b17 special dans classic> trekking&touring
http://www.brooksengland.com/shop/shopProductDetail.aspx?id=uid-20070521.173649.625.0000-7-00145E457A63--30
Il n'y a aucune différence, j'avais commandé une team professionnel qui pareil a son homologue couleur cuivre pour des sous en plus. Rien de différent mis à part la couleur. Au passage ils se sont trompés et m'ont envoyé celle couleur cuivre.
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Tibet libre
ah bon ?!? étonnant quand meme vu la différence de prix ? Merci pour ta reponse !
D'autres avis similaire ? Du coup je vais ma m'embeter...je prendrai la standard, car moins chere...pour le meme produit (?) J'attends quand d'autres commentaire pour etre sure de pas me tromper !
Une petite réponse qui n'engage que moi : une selle brooks c'est un charme à part, démodé mais au confort inégalé. Les rivets en cuivre apportent une note esthétique qui me plait et qui lui sied bien (à la selle). Si tu la trouves plus belle avec (ce qui pour moi est indéniable), ces quelques €, comme tu dis, seront vite amortis (vu la longue vie que vous partagerez ensemble). Dans ta commande n'oublie pas la graisse spéciale brooks qui sent si bon la citronnelle. Tu verras que tu prendras du plaisir à l'astiquer.
tout a fait pour la graisse, un bohneur cet odeur
pour les rivets cuivre, c' est un matériau plus souple qui s' integre parfaitement dans le cuir qui s' use avec la selle et qui ne sera jamais saillant. quand tu passes la main sur la selle le rivet ne fait qu' un avec le cuir!
reste le plaisir de cette selle et je rejoins azraq c' est un investissement durable alors lache toi !
aaaah Azraq si c'est pas de l'amour ça 😛 !
c'est marrant mais je vois ( ou plutot ressens ) ce que tu essaies de dire...en effet c'est un grand plaisir de bichonner sa monture (🤪 euuuh pas de mauvaise interprétation lol).
Merci pour vos réponses...donc on peut en conclure que la différence est sutout esthétique.. En générale, j'aurai préféré la standard car elle est moins tape à l'oeil (donc donne moins envie d'etre volé) mais faut avouer qu'elle quand meme jolie en cuivre ! Bon je fais une ptite recherche pour trouver le site qui la fait la moins chere et je me décide ! Haha j'espere au moins qu'elle plaira autant à mon derrière qu'à moi 😉. En effet je commande la graisse en meme temps ! Hihi merci la fonction "recherche" qui m'a permit d'éviter une future bettise....j'aurai jamais pensé qu'il fallait mettre la graisse sur le dessous de la selle et non au dessus 😊 hihi
Merci pour vos réponses...donc on peut en conclure que la différence est sutout esthétique.. En générale, j'aurai préféré la standard car elle est moins tape à l'oeil (donc donne moins envie d'etre volé) mais faut avouer qu'elle quand meme jolie en cuivre ! Bon je fais une ptite recherche pour trouver le site qui la fait la moins chere et je me décide ! Haha j'espere au moins qu'elle plaira autant à mon derrière qu'à moi 😉. En effet je commande la graisse en meme temps ! Hihi merci la fonction "recherche" qui m'a permit d'éviter une future bettise....j'aurai jamais pensé qu'il fallait mettre la graisse sur le dessous de la selle et non au dessus 😊 hihi
mister vélo fait des bons prix...😉
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Tibet libre
tiens encore un site que je connaissais pas, merci !
je viens de jetter un coup d'oeil, pour la selle ils sont un peu plus chere, dommage.
Merci quand meme !
allez pour le plaisir : c'est bon passé ma commande chez CRC ! ce sera donc la standard mais en noir, pas mal nan plus !
Bonne soiréé 😉
Chuperdu, en effet il y a quelque chose de sensuel à adoucir le cuir de sa selle. Celui qui aurait du mal à visualiser peut s'imaginer flatter une croupe docile mais ferme qui s'offrirait à ses caresses.
Pour en revenir sur le dessus ou le dessous, je préconise un 1° nourrissage du cuir par le dessous, avec une vieille brosse à dents pour atteindre les recoins peu accessibles, et même avec de la graisse de phoque moins onéreuse. Le dessus par contre, se fait avec délicatesse, presque tendresse, avec la main qui passe et repasse pour faire pénétrer cette préparation parfumée et onctueuse qui permettra par la suite à la selle de t'accueillir avec ce confort personnalisé qui ne sierra parfaitement qu'à ton anatomie à toi.
Tu sauras qu'alors elle sera devenue tienne.
Pour en revenir sur le dessus ou le dessous, je préconise un 1° nourrissage du cuir par le dessous, avec une vieille brosse à dents pour atteindre les recoins peu accessibles, et même avec de la graisse de phoque moins onéreuse. Le dessus par contre, se fait avec délicatesse, presque tendresse, avec la main qui passe et repasse pour faire pénétrer cette préparation parfumée et onctueuse qui permettra par la suite à la selle de t'accueillir avec ce confort personnalisé qui ne sierra parfaitement qu'à ton anatomie à toi.
Tu sauras qu'alors elle sera devenue tienne.
Grace à toi je viens de revisiter l'entretien de ma brooks dans une version tellement plus sensuelle...
Comme quoi il faut pas grand chose, faut dire que ces selles s'occupent bien de nous aussi.🙂
Comme quoi il faut pas grand chose, faut dire que ces selles s'occupent bien de nous aussi.🙂
http://detour-de-roues.blogspot.com/
Tibet libre
c'est marrant Azraq du coup tu me mets le doute mais en effet je reviens sur ce que j'ai dit car je pense que tu as raison : il faut bien mettre de la graisse en dessous, ET on peut aussi en mettre un peu au dessus (et attendre qu'elle pénètre, sinon swiiiip ça glisss)...mais le tout avec délicatesse bien sure ! 😛
Bon après avoir commandé ma selle hier, ce soir je commande un (ou 2) sac fourre tout étanche....brrr me manquera plus qu'à acheter un réchaud multi-combustible, une tente, sacoches et porte baggage avant...on y croit !
🙂Pour être glissant c'est glissant. Me semble aussi avoir lu quelque part qu'il fallait éviter de laisser la selle sous la pluie... Quelqu'un peut confirmer ?
Je pense que tu peux la laisser sous la pluie (on laisse bien les vaches sous la pluie) mais après il faut attendre qu'elle séche avant de remonter dessus. Sinon, tu peux prendre un sac plastique pour la recouvrir lors de tes arrêts.
Le cuir aime pas super beaucoup l'eau en fait. Si ta brooks est détrempée en remontant dessus direct on peut risquer de la déformée. Maintenant ça dépend de la pluie et si t'es dessus ça pause pas de problème. Juste la nuit ou sur les pauses s'il pleut beaucoup tu la protèges avec un ce que tu peux et ça ira.
http://detour-de-roues.blogspot.com/
Tibet libre
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Hi there, I’m planning a cross-Canada bike trip, and I’ve got a question that might seem silly, but could someone tell me how to pack a bike (in a box, with a fragile sticker... I don’t know) for a flight? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
I’ve gotten used to crossing Europe by bus to return by bike.
It was really convenient to take the bike without having to disassemble it.
But FlixBus no longer accepts bikes...
What alternatives do you know about?
Thanks.
Hi there,
I’m planning to ride the Dutch section of the EuroVelo 19, from Maastricht to Rotterdam.
Since it’s too complicated to bring my bike on the train, I’m looking to rent one locally.
I’d love any tips or bike rental shop recommendations—I’m struggling to find options even in Rotterdam.
The plan is to rent in Rotterdam, take the train to Maastricht with the bike, then cycle back to Rotterdam.
Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions!
Nath
Coming soon:
https://www.Biclou.com/parcours/durance/
Starting from Faverges: 900 km over 9 days

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Hi there,
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
Hi there!
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
Hi there, we’re a group of 4 cyclists looking to get from Treviso in Italy to Munich with our 4 non-folding bikes. It seems complicated! Are there any solutions? Thanks so much.
Hi, I'm looking for a Pino tandem bike for sale in Quebec and I can't find any. Does anyone have any info, please? Thanks a bunch!