Visa "On Arrival" en Iran refusé
by Coucousympa
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour
Ma demande d'evisa on arrival à IKA est passée sous souci jusqu'au code barre ID application.
Mais hier, comme pas mal de monde j'ai reçu un mail qui me rejetait mon visa en me disant de contacter une agence ... bref comme beaucoup de monde a priori.
J'assimile ça à un racket financier (env 30euros) donc si je peux éviter ...
Cependant je n'ai pas envie de me faire refouler à l'aéroport, et comme je pars dans les prochains jours, il ne me reste que deux choix :
1) payer une agence
2) arrivée à IKA sans rien du tout, sans demande enregistrée d'evisa
J'ai déjà lu des posts sur ce sujet, certains disant qu'on peut faire le visa on arrival sans problème même sans l'autorisation d'evisa. Mais la situation évoluant vite, ces post sont ils toujours d'actualité? Quelqu'un peut il me m'assurer avec certitude qu'on peut le faire en juillet 2019?
Ca serait bien d'avoir une réponse de qqq1 qui l'a fait sans rien à IKA en mai ou juin ou juillet 2019.
Merci par avance car ça devient très urgent
Bonsoir Elidan,
Il n'est pas possible de demander un visa pour l'Iran depuis la France? On est obligé de demander un visa une fois arrivé en Iran?
Je vois que Action Visa ne fournit pas de visa pour l'Iran...
Estelle.
Il n'est pas possible de demander un visa pour l'Iran depuis la France? On est obligé de demander un visa une fois arrivé en Iran?
Je vois que Action Visa ne fournit pas de visa pour l'Iran...
Estelle.
Bonjour
Bien sur que c'est possible. 2 solutions : 1) aller le faire à l'ambassade à Paris 2) faire une demande en ligne de E Visa. Le problème c'est qu'aujourd'hui il semble quasi impossible d'obtenir son E Visa sans passer par une agence iranienne (qui facture son intervention une trentaine d'Euros). J'avais fait une demande en octobre dernier et obtenu le E Visa sans problème. Cette année j'ai fait plusieurs tentatives et il a été refusé à chaque fois. Comme je ne voulais pas payer une agence en plus des fais de visa, j'ai opté pour le visa à l'arrivée qui ne pose aucun souci.
Bien sur que c'est possible. 2 solutions : 1) aller le faire à l'ambassade à Paris 2) faire une demande en ligne de E Visa. Le problème c'est qu'aujourd'hui il semble quasi impossible d'obtenir son E Visa sans passer par une agence iranienne (qui facture son intervention une trentaine d'Euros). J'avais fait une demande en octobre dernier et obtenu le E Visa sans problème. Cette année j'ai fait plusieurs tentatives et il a été refusé à chaque fois. Comme je ne voulais pas payer une agence en plus des fais de visa, j'ai opté pour le visa à l'arrivée qui ne pose aucun souci.
merci beaucoup à elidan93 de m'avoir répondu
on prends le risque : on va faire le visa on arrival, même si on n'a pas notre demande d'evisa validée
on verra bien sur place ce qu'il se passera...
Bonsoir Elidan,
Sur le site de l'ambassade d'Iran il faut fournir une réservation d’hôtel sur l'ensemble du séjour... Je me doute que cela n'est pas respecté, Du coup il n'est pas préférable de passer par l'ambassade...
Du coup un minimum de 2 nuits à l’hôtel ors de mon arrivé, comme vous l'avez fait, semble tout à jouable?
J’atterris à Téhéran à 23h55, l'agence qui délivre les visa on arrival ne sera fermé, pas de risque...?
Sur le site de l'ambassade d'Iran il faut fournir une réservation d’hôtel sur l'ensemble du séjour... Je me doute que cela n'est pas respecté, Du coup il n'est pas préférable de passer par l'ambassade...
Du coup un minimum de 2 nuits à l’hôtel ors de mon arrivé, comme vous l'avez fait, semble tout à jouable?
J’atterris à Téhéran à 23h55, l'agence qui délivre les visa on arrival ne sera fermé, pas de risque...?
Bonsoir "coucou sympa" ! ,
Nous sommes dans la même situation. Etes vous déjà partie et le visa on arrival s'est-il passé sans encombre ?
Merci d'avance pour votre retour,
Lionel
Merci d'avance pour votre retour,
Lionel
Bonjour Karine,
Quand arrives tu en Iran?
J'envisage de partir en Iran dans 2 semaines et je me demande si l'augmentation des tensions avec l'occident ne se traduira pas par un durcissement des conditions d'obtention du visa "on arrival".
La dernière fois que j'ai été en Iran, en 2015, à l'époque il n'y avait pas besoin de s'inscrire en ligne avant l'obtention du visa "on arrival".Comme toi j'aimerais un retour de la part de français qui arrivent en Iran et demandent un visa "on arrival" ces jours ci.
Merci à vous :)
JP
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Bonjour Daniel,
Ok, alors c'est contradictoire avec ce qui est écrit sur leur site. Apparemment depuis 2017, ils demandent de se pré-inscrire en ligne.
"It is notified to visitors to the Islamic Republic of Iran intending to acquire their visa at Iranian International Airports that in order to expedite the issuance of visa take the following measures (at least two days prior to their travel ):
Apply for an electronic visa application by clicking on the following link...
You must submit a hardcopy of Grant Notice to the Visa-On-Arrival counter at the airport"
Alors certes, on peut certainement avoir un visa sans avoir au préalable rempli le formulaire... qu'en est il si le formulaire est refusé... sachant que la situation peut évoluer d'un jour à l'autre. De quand date ton arrivée en Iran?
Ok, alors c'est contradictoire avec ce qui est écrit sur leur site. Apparemment depuis 2017, ils demandent de se pré-inscrire en ligne.
"It is notified to visitors to the Islamic Republic of Iran intending to acquire their visa at Iranian International Airports that in order to expedite the issuance of visa take the following measures (at least two days prior to their travel ):
Apply for an electronic visa application by clicking on the following link...
You must submit a hardcopy of Grant Notice to the Visa-On-Arrival counter at the airport"
Alors certes, on peut certainement avoir un visa sans avoir au préalable rempli le formulaire... qu'en est il si le formulaire est refusé... sachant que la situation peut évoluer d'un jour à l'autre. De quand date ton arrivée en Iran?
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Nous sommes arrivés le 5 juin. Ils ne m'ont pas demandé ce document pour établir le visa
Combien avez-vous payé à l’arrivé ? J’ai lu que les prix avaient changé.
Combien avez-vous payé à l’arrivé ? J’ai lu que les prix avaient changé.
Binjour
Nous rentrons à l'instant d'Iran après deux semaines.
Je ferai un retour plus détaillé plus tard dans un post séparé mais pour répondre à la question des visas à l'arrivée, tout à été très rapide. Nous avons été accueillis par des personnes comme toujours en Iran très serviables. On nous demandé notre attestation d'assurance puis le guichet d'en face permet de payer les 75€ demandés.
A noter que nous avions eu un pré-visa par 1stquest pour 19€ mais la personne derrière nous n'en avait pas et tout à l'air de s'être bien passé.
Vous pouvez partir les yeux fermés. Comme toujours en pareil cas, on a une appréhension toute légitime mais vous allez passer un voyage extraordinaire. Le pays est merveilleux et les iraniens sont accueillants, gentils, etc. En une semaine j'avais 5 numéros d'iraniens qui nous ont proposé de les appeler en cas de soucis sans aucune arrière pensée. Juste pour nous aider si un jour on avait un souci.
Bon voyage Lionel
Vous pouvez partir les yeux fermés. Comme toujours en pareil cas, on a une appréhension toute légitime mais vous allez passer un voyage extraordinaire. Le pays est merveilleux et les iraniens sont accueillants, gentils, etc. En une semaine j'avais 5 numéros d'iraniens qui nous ont proposé de les appeler en cas de soucis sans aucune arrière pensée. Juste pour nous aider si un jour on avait un souci.
Bon voyage Lionel
Bonsoir
Pas eu besoin de photo d'identité, en plus j'avais perdu la mienne...
Aucun tampon sur le passeport, c'est un visa électronique.
Pour les réservations d'hôtel ils ne les ont pas regardées mais d'autres personnes sur les forums en ont eu besoin.
De notre côté, on a préféré assurer en prenant une pré autorisation de visa par 1st qu'est qui ne nous a coûté "que" 19€.
Tout cela ne reflète qu'une expérience personnelle et ne prévaut pas de ce qui se passera pour vous. Ce qui est certain est que les iraniens, partout, c'est à dire aéroport, taxi et population, etc, vous accueilleront de façon exceptionnelle.
C'est un voyage extraordinaire qui bouscule toutes les idées que l'on peut avoir en tant que occidental, particulièrement en cette période trouble. Il y a plusieurs moments où les instants de vie dont on est témoins sont emouvants. Et pourtant, nous commençons à avoir fait de nombreux voyages.
Je vous souhaite un excellent voyzge Amicalement L.
Tout cela ne reflète qu'une expérience personnelle et ne prévaut pas de ce qui se passera pour vous. Ce qui est certain est que les iraniens, partout, c'est à dire aéroport, taxi et population, etc, vous accueilleront de façon exceptionnelle.
C'est un voyage extraordinaire qui bouscule toutes les idées que l'on peut avoir en tant que occidental, particulièrement en cette période trouble. Il y a plusieurs moments où les instants de vie dont on est témoins sont emouvants. Et pourtant, nous commençons à avoir fait de nombreux voyages.
Je vous souhaite un excellent voyzge Amicalement L.
Mince... J'ai oublié votre question sur le VPN.
J'utilise CyberGhost en France qui n'a pas fonctionné en Iran (ce qui m'a coûté de rater tout le tour de France !)
Je ne sais pas s'il s'agissait d'un pb avec mon vpn ou une question due à l'Iran...
Je ne sais pas s'il s'agissait d'un pb avec mon vpn ou une question due à l'Iran...
Bonjour,
Nous sommes dans la même situation avec nos e-visa refusés .
Alors que faire ? Abandonner notre projet de trip en Iran et choisir une autre destination moins compliquée ou partir quand même sans e-visa avec le risque de se voir refouler par la compagnie aérienne à l’embarquement et perdre 500€ !
Merci pour vos expériences récentes .
Cordialement
Bonjour Antoine
Nous avons été dans la même situation il y a 1 mois de cela. E-visa refusé...
Deux possibilités :
- soit tenter le coup et prendre l'avion quand même. C'est ce qu'a fait quelqu'un derrière nous et il a été très bien accueilli à l'aéroport de Téhéran (comme toujours sur place d'ailleurs) et on lui a fait remplir tous les documents. On ne sait pas plus puisque nous avions notre e-visa et que les démarches ont été très courtes pour nous mais le personnel de l'aéroport ne l'a pas du tout refoulé.
- soit passer par une agence et obtenir le fameux sésame. J'étais dans le même état d'esprit que vous au départ et j'ai préféré être certain de pas avoir de souci. Nous sommes passés par 1stquest.com. 19€ par personne puis visa reçu très rapidement. Lorsque j'ai posé une question au site la réponse à été rapide et le suivi positif. Compte tenu du coût de la vie sur place qui est très bas pour nous actuellement, ça vaut peut être le coup de vous rassurer en faisant pareil...
Dana tous les cas, n'annulez pas votre voyage ! Celui ci sera fantastique. L'Iran est un pays merveilleux et la population très accueillante.
Bon voyage Lionel
- soit passer par une agence et obtenir le fameux sésame. J'étais dans le même état d'esprit que vous au départ et j'ai préféré être certain de pas avoir de souci. Nous sommes passés par 1stquest.com. 19€ par personne puis visa reçu très rapidement. Lorsque j'ai posé une question au site la réponse à été rapide et le suivi positif. Compte tenu du coût de la vie sur place qui est très bas pour nous actuellement, ça vaut peut être le coup de vous rassurer en faisant pareil...
Dana tous les cas, n'annulez pas votre voyage ! Celui ci sera fantastique. L'Iran est un pays merveilleux et la population très accueillante.
Bon voyage Lionel
Salut
Je pars vendredi prochain.
Mon e visa est refusé.
Mais j y vais !
Avec photos assurance rapatriement et 1eres nuits d hôtel réservés.
Je croise les doigts.
J enverrai un message sur le site pour vous dire si tout s est bien passé.
Merci Lionel pour ton message rassurant.
A bientôt
Guillaume
Salut Daniel.
Avez vous un vpn à me conseiller?
Si je pars sans vpn...pas de danger si je me connecte à Whatsapp?..a partir d un wifi?
Sinon me conseillez vous d acheter une carte sim sur place ?
Si oui dois je desimbloquer la mienne avant de partir?
Par avance merci pour votre aide
Guillaume
Bonjour
Pour le VPN désolé je ne peux pas vous aider : c'est mon fils, qui bosse dans l'informatique, qui m'a installé son VPN sur mon portable. J’utilisais Whatsapp sans ouvrir le VPN. Par contre, j'utilisais le VPN pour un certain nombre de sites inaccessibles sans lui. Concrètement quand j'ouvrais un site et que je voyais que je n'arrivais pas à ouvrir la page. J'ai acheté une carte Irancell. Je ne me souviens pas du prix exact. Mais environ une douzaine d'euros pour appels et une dizaine de Go. Bien moins cher que d'utiliser sa carte française. Et on peut ensuite la recharger facilement si besoin.
Pour le VPN désolé je ne peux pas vous aider : c'est mon fils, qui bosse dans l'informatique, qui m'a installé son VPN sur mon portable. J’utilisais Whatsapp sans ouvrir le VPN. Par contre, j'utilisais le VPN pour un certain nombre de sites inaccessibles sans lui. Concrètement quand j'ouvrais un site et que je voyais que je n'arrivais pas à ouvrir la page. J'ai acheté une carte Irancell. Je ne me souviens pas du prix exact. Mais environ une douzaine d'euros pour appels et une dizaine de Go. Bien moins cher que d'utiliser sa carte française. Et on peut ensuite la recharger facilement si besoin.
Bonjour Antoine
Aucun souci la nuit a l'aéroport. Tout fonctionne et on est assez surpris de voir toute la vie à l'intérieur à 1h du matin. L'aéroport grouille de monde ! Le passage de frontière est efficace et rapide. Pareil pour les visas.
A l'extérieur les taxis attendent et les prix sont indiqués et fixes. Par exemple 1.000.000 de rials pour Téhéran
Bon voyage Lionel
Bon voyage Lionel
Bonjour Lionel,
Merci pour ces infos précieuses concernant l'arrivée à Téhéran .
Si vous avez des bons tuyaux sur des hébergements sympas ou lieux à ne pas manquer je suis preneur.
Pour un premier voyage de 2 semaines en Iran nous allons rester sur un tour classique avec quelques escapades en montagne ou désert si l’occasion se présente .
J’espere que votre voyage est une belle découverte .
Antoine
Bonjour
Nous partons à 2 personnes avec e-visa refusé et nous allons faire de même, obtenir le visa à l'arrivée. Une question tout de même, lors de l’enregistrement la compagnie ne risque t'elle pas de poser problème sans la présentation de la demande du evisa.
Nous partons avec Atlas Global via Istanbul.
Merci.
Stéphane
Nous partons à 2 personnes avec e-visa refusé et nous allons faire de même, obtenir le visa à l'arrivée. Une question tout de même, lors de l’enregistrement la compagnie ne risque t'elle pas de poser problème sans la présentation de la demande du evisa.
Nous partons avec Atlas Global via Istanbul.
Merci.
Stéphane
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Hello,
We’ll soon be moving to Madagascar long-term.
As a French national, I need to obtain a short-stay visa that can be converted to a long-stay one. To do this, I have to send the required documents to the Madagascar embassy in Paris.
No issues with that procedure so far.
If I get this visa, once I arrive in Madagascar, I’ll need to provide the same documents to the Ministry of the Interior in Anosy. I’m trying to find an email address or website for the Ministry to check which documents I need to submit (I think they ask for additional ones).
If you have any info on this, I’d appreciate your replies.
Best regards,
M. Buisson Eric
Hi there,
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I filled out the B2 form to apply for a visa, created an account on Atvis to pay the visa fees and schedule a meet-up, but every time I try to pay with my Boursobank Visa 1st card, they refuse the payment with a message telling me to check my details (address), even though everything is correct. Does anyone know why this is happening, or maybe they don’t accept Visa cards? Are you aware of this?
Thanks for your feedback!
Elisabeth
Hi,
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
Hi there,
We need to apply for a B2 visa because we visited Iran in 2018. It currently costs $185, but they’re planning an additional $250 fee per person for the same visa—it’s been approved but not yet implemented. Does anyone know when this fee will take effect?
Thanks in advance!
Elisabeth
Hi there,
In November, we're heading off on a 4-month trip. We'll be landing in China and plan to leave the country via a land border into Vietnam.
I’ve read that China may ask for proof of exit within 30 days (flight ticket or other reservation). Since we’d be leaving by land, I’m wondering how this works in practice.
Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Hi there,
Just a question that’s probably been asked before (though usually the other way around for my situation :))
My wife and I are heading to the US.
On her ticket, it only has her maiden name (e.g., Martine DUPOND).
On her passport, it’s written as Martine DUPOND épouse AVRY.
No issues for travel, I hope I did the right thing with the ticket?
Then for the ESTA, is just Martine DUPOND enough, or do I need to include the "épouse AVRY" part like on the passport?
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’m spending a few days in San Pedro de Atacama (Chile) and would like to cross the Argentine border to make a loop toward Salta and then return to Chile to drop off the rental car.
I’ve heard that crossing the border can be tricky!
Is it possible with a rental company’s authorization? Which company, and at what cost?
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Best regards,
Arnale
Hi everyone,
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
Hi there,
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Hi
Has anyone been to Rwanda recently and gotten a 3-month visa on arrival easily?
Thanks
Hi there,
My departure is slowly approaching, and now that I’ve got my Russian visa sorted, I’m fine-tuning the rest of my trip to Tajikistan. Since the Tajik visa is no longer required for stays under 30 days (for French nationals), I’ll need to visit the Ministry of Interior (OVIR) to register within 10 days of entering the country. No big deal, though, since I had to go there anyway to apply for my GBAO permit. 😉 However, I’ve *seen* several reports from travelers (mostly motorized) mentioning that you need an entry permit for Kyrgyzstan, which has to be arranged in advance at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) in Dushanbe. Otherwise, you’re *stuck* at the Kyzyl-Art border (with no Wi-Fi, of course, to try and sort it out). The most recent report was from a year ago, so I’d love to know if this is still the case and if it’s indeed at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) where you need to go for this pre-authorization.
Does anyone have any recent info on this?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone.
I’m leaving for almost 3 months in the Philippines (11 weeks total) starting in early May.
I already have my round-trip ticket.
The problem is, I don’t have time to get a 2-month visa because the process takes nearly a month.
From what I’ve read here and there, I need a return ticket valid for less than a month when I arrive in the Philippines to prove my good faith.
After that, I can apply for a 30-day extension at the immigration office.
I’m planning to either buy a fully refundable ticket to the nearest country or a fake ticket.
For 3 months, I’ll need to extend my visa two more times before my return date to France.
My question is this:
Will immigration ask me each time I extend my visa by one month to show proof of an exit ticket matching the new visa extension date?
Is it possible to extend directly by 2 months before the initial 30 days expire?
Thanks in advance for your experiences and tips! 😊
Hello to all the Thailand regulars.
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
My partner (Mexican) entered France on January 21st as a tourist. She was therefore entitled to stay for 90 days in the Schengen Area. She’ll be leaving for Mexico on April 16th, so she’ll have “used up” 86 days.
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie






