Bonjour,
Qui peut me donner le coût moyen mensuel en Chine. Logement très sommaire, pas de grands restaurants, pas de dépenses inutiles mais visite de tous les sites et monuments.
Merci
Bonjour à tous
J'ai trouvé un vol Lyon Beijing via Paris à moins de 500 euros. Départ 23/09 retour 11/10.OK.
En revanche, le vol Beinjing-Guilin (02/10 au 06/10) s'affiche plus cher que ce vol international😕 je ne trouve rien à moins de 500 euros aller-retour. Est-ce "normal"? J'ai essayé Ctrip et les prix sont les mêmes que sur d'autres sites...et en avançant le vol au 28/09 retour 03/10 même prix onéreux...'effet "fête nationale"?Y a-t-il une façon d'obtenir ce vol aller-retour Beijing-Guilin à un prix moindre.
Par ailleurs je cherche un hôtel convenable à Yangshuo (ou environs proches) chambre avec lits twin à 60/ 70 euros la nuitée. je sais que la pub est interdite, aussi si quelqu'un a un hôtel à conseiller la réponse peut être sur mon mail perso.
Merci d'avance et bonne journée à tous
Bonjour
Nous partons en chine en novembre , c'est notre premier voyage dans ce pays , mais nous sommes deja allés une semaine a Hong Kong.
Voici notre périple Arrivée le 1 /11 a Pékin du 2/11 au 4/11: visite de la ville et muraille 5/11 :départ pour Datong 6/11 :Datong grottes 7/11 :départ Pingyao 8/11 :Pingyao 9/11 :Pingyao Xi an 10/11 : Xi An 11/11 : Xi An Zhangjiajie avion 12 au 15 : Visite du parc de Zhangjiajie et wulinguan mont Tianmen 16 /11 Fenghuang 17/11 fenghuang huaihua puis vol sur shangai 18au 23 Shangai et ses environs
Merci de me dire si ce trajet est correct , et s'il n'est pas trop tard de visiter la region de Zha -ngjiajie a la mi novembre Dois je prévoir une autre option depuis xi han si la meteo n'est pas au top et alors quelle ré -ion visiter?
Merci d'avance a ceux qui me donnerons des renseignements
Cat
Nous partons en chine en novembre , c'est notre premier voyage dans ce pays , mais nous sommes deja allés une semaine a Hong Kong.
Voici notre périple Arrivée le 1 /11 a Pékin du 2/11 au 4/11: visite de la ville et muraille 5/11 :départ pour Datong 6/11 :Datong grottes 7/11 :départ Pingyao 8/11 :Pingyao 9/11 :Pingyao Xi an 10/11 : Xi An 11/11 : Xi An Zhangjiajie avion 12 au 15 : Visite du parc de Zhangjiajie et wulinguan mont Tianmen 16 /11 Fenghuang 17/11 fenghuang huaihua puis vol sur shangai 18au 23 Shangai et ses environs
Merci de me dire si ce trajet est correct , et s'il n'est pas trop tard de visiter la region de Zha -ngjiajie a la mi novembre Dois je prévoir une autre option depuis xi han si la meteo n'est pas au top et alors quelle ré -ion visiter?
Merci d'avance a ceux qui me donnerons des renseignements
Cat
Hello forum,
Did any of you feel the same things we did in China?
We spent a good twenty days there in August. First, we traveled solo around Chengdu, then joined an organized tour for 12 days (Beijing, Pingyao, Xi'an, Guilin, Xingping, Yangshuo, Shanghai, Wuzhen) and extended our stay by 4 extra days to visit Zhangjiajie.
The landscapes were stunning, and we have unforgettable memories... but we were really disappointed by the following points:
- The food: way too spicy. Lacking in flavor, not much taste. I’m speaking "in general" because we did enjoy some good steamed dumplings, smoked pork, and other dumplings... But compared to Thailand, Cambodia, or India, Chinese cuisine didn’t impress us at all.
- The behavior of the Chinese: disrespectful, rushed, agitated. You constantly have to fight—people push, crowd, and overwhelm you... At the entrance to the Terracotta Army (and other sites), it’s a human tidal wave... and I mean that literally. We were carried by the crowd without even touching the ground. It was like a situation where you have one bowl of rice and 20,000 starving people diving for it...
You’re at a ticket counter, and they cut in front of you. You’re in line for boarding, suitcase ready to go on the conveyor belt, and someone shows up out of nowhere to put THEIR suitcase down... even though they have a flight ticket with THEIR seat number and won’t be leaving before you!!!! You’re getting on the bus, and someone shoves past you just so they don’t end up behind you.
It’s like these people only think about themselves. I didn’t see a single person let someone else go first or even ask—it’s as if politeness and respect are completely foreign to them.
It’s honestly exhausting and draining...
- Communication: In every other country we’ve visited, whether in Asia or Europe, we always manage—with English, a few words of Italian, French, or Spanish. In China, I’ll be blunt: if you don’t speak Chinese, you’re screwed. And yet, a pair of kids around ten or twelve years old asked us in English where we were from :)
- Understanding: Here’s the rule. Even if the person you’re talking to speaks a little English and says they understand you... make sure they *really* do, because 9 times out of 10, they don’t. Out of pride or just cluelessness, they’ll give you a big smile and nod, but in reality, they didn’t get what you were saying.
Several times with our group, in the evening at a restaurant, if we hadn’t been helped by someone at another table who spoke a little English, we’d still be there. The classic example: the waiter brings one menu (for 10 people at the table), and we’re all trying to explain that we need 4 or more menus. Five minutes later, he’s still staring at us with that same blank smile...
In 3* or 4* hotels, you go to the front desk for a hot water or AC issue. Three or four staff members just stand there beaming at you. You try to explain with photos or a translator, but in the end, you leave with the problem unresolved.
They don’t speak—they shout... on buses, in hotels...
We were also surprised to find that self-service laundromats were almost nonexistent. We got scammed once at a hotel with an astronomical bill!
As for flights, we flew Air China on the way there and Austrian Airlines on the way back—no comparison. Air China had zero service and food that was "baby food" quality. Austrian Airlines had multiple services, a decent meal, and smiling flight attendants.
I don’t know if any of you had the same experience in this country, but I’m definitely not eager to go back. Whereas if someone offered me India, Thailand, or Vietnam tomorrow, I’d be there in a heartbeat!!!
Did any of you feel the same things we did in China?
We spent a good twenty days there in August. First, we traveled solo around Chengdu, then joined an organized tour for 12 days (Beijing, Pingyao, Xi'an, Guilin, Xingping, Yangshuo, Shanghai, Wuzhen) and extended our stay by 4 extra days to visit Zhangjiajie.
The landscapes were stunning, and we have unforgettable memories... but we were really disappointed by the following points:
- The food: way too spicy. Lacking in flavor, not much taste. I’m speaking "in general" because we did enjoy some good steamed dumplings, smoked pork, and other dumplings... But compared to Thailand, Cambodia, or India, Chinese cuisine didn’t impress us at all.
- The behavior of the Chinese: disrespectful, rushed, agitated. You constantly have to fight—people push, crowd, and overwhelm you... At the entrance to the Terracotta Army (and other sites), it’s a human tidal wave... and I mean that literally. We were carried by the crowd without even touching the ground. It was like a situation where you have one bowl of rice and 20,000 starving people diving for it...
You’re at a ticket counter, and they cut in front of you. You’re in line for boarding, suitcase ready to go on the conveyor belt, and someone shows up out of nowhere to put THEIR suitcase down... even though they have a flight ticket with THEIR seat number and won’t be leaving before you!!!! You’re getting on the bus, and someone shoves past you just so they don’t end up behind you.
It’s like these people only think about themselves. I didn’t see a single person let someone else go first or even ask—it’s as if politeness and respect are completely foreign to them.
It’s honestly exhausting and draining...
- Communication: In every other country we’ve visited, whether in Asia or Europe, we always manage—with English, a few words of Italian, French, or Spanish. In China, I’ll be blunt: if you don’t speak Chinese, you’re screwed. And yet, a pair of kids around ten or twelve years old asked us in English where we were from :)
- Understanding: Here’s the rule. Even if the person you’re talking to speaks a little English and says they understand you... make sure they *really* do, because 9 times out of 10, they don’t. Out of pride or just cluelessness, they’ll give you a big smile and nod, but in reality, they didn’t get what you were saying.
Several times with our group, in the evening at a restaurant, if we hadn’t been helped by someone at another table who spoke a little English, we’d still be there. The classic example: the waiter brings one menu (for 10 people at the table), and we’re all trying to explain that we need 4 or more menus. Five minutes later, he’s still staring at us with that same blank smile...
In 3* or 4* hotels, you go to the front desk for a hot water or AC issue. Three or four staff members just stand there beaming at you. You try to explain with photos or a translator, but in the end, you leave with the problem unresolved.
They don’t speak—they shout... on buses, in hotels...
We were also surprised to find that self-service laundromats were almost nonexistent. We got scammed once at a hotel with an astronomical bill!
As for flights, we flew Air China on the way there and Austrian Airlines on the way back—no comparison. Air China had zero service and food that was "baby food" quality. Austrian Airlines had multiple services, a decent meal, and smiling flight attendants.
I don’t know if any of you had the same experience in this country, but I’m definitely not eager to go back. Whereas if someone offered me India, Thailand, or Vietnam tomorrow, I’d be there in a heartbeat!!!
Bonjour,
j'arrive à hong kong et j'aimerai reprendre un autre vol 3h plus tard. Est ce suffisant ?
Le passage à la douane et aux contrôles frontières est-il long dans cet aéroport? Le transit entre 2 terminals se fait rapidement?
merci
merci
Bonjour,
nous partons en chine pour un mois le 16 octobre.
je n'arrive pas à trouver comment aller de yangshuo à hainan où nous voulons finir le séjour par qqs jours à la plage.
vu que nous faisons deux vols intérieurs je voulais privilégier d'autres moyens de transport histoire de limiter le budget ! 😛
Y a t il une étape intéressante sur le chemin ?
faut il privilégier le bus ou le train ?
merci de vos réponses !
Virginie
Bonjour ,
Nous sommes en pleine organisation d'un voyage en Chine. Il me reste une interrogation ... Auriez vous des suggestions concernant notre trajet de zhangiajie à Chengdu ?
Nous avons repéré la possibilité du train en plus ou moins 12h , des vols ( Mais je n'ai trouvé qu'avec transfert par la capitale ) où chauffeur ( aucune idée du coût) . Un tout grand merci pour votre expérience qui nous aidera beaucoup et bonne journée
Laetitia et Denis
Laetitia et Denis
Bonjour
Nous pensons partir un mois en avril au Yunnan. Nous sommes un couple de retraités habitués à voyager seuls, sac à dos et bus locaux, nombreux voyages en Asie et Amérique du sud. Après des recherches infructueuses, j'ai trouvé une combinaison de vols avec Cathay Pacific à un prix correct : 620 euros et j'aimerais ne pas tarder à réserver car nous serons à la limite des vacances chinoises. Idéalement : Paris-Kunming le 27 mars avec retour Kunming-HK le 26 avril ( 30 jours sur place du visa ) et HK-Paris le 30 avril.
C'est la solution la plus simple, tout est réservé et payé, si nous nous limitons au Yunnan. Mais en 30 jours sur place, pouvons-nous envisager un élargissement au Sichuan dans la 2ème partie du séjour avant de rejoindre HK ? Durée ? Allons-nous trop courir ? Nous aimons tout : paysages grandioses, villages, villes anciennes, culture, populations. Comment articuler les 2 régions ? Nous commencerions par le Yunnan à cause des rizières et du climat. Dans ce cas, ce n'est plus de Kunming qu'il faut repartir.
Ce qui me soucie, c'est la réservation des vols internes qui ne peut se faire maintenant et qui peuvent être complets à cette période.
Le plus important est le vol de Chine continentale à HK pour quitter le pays le 30ème jour. Celui-ci, je veux le réserver maintenant. Et la question est donc : repartir de Kunming ? ou d'ailleurs si le temps et la météo nous permettent d'aller au Sichuan ?
Nous ne parlons pas chinois. De temps en temps, quand un tour est trop compliqué, nous pouvons prendre un guide local pour 1 ou 2 jours.
Visa : est- ce vrai que l'on ne peut le prendre que moins de 30 jours avant ? Obligation d'aller à Paris ? et pour le reprendre ? Ce court délai est un peu stressant s'il y a un problème.
Merci beaucoup pour vos conseils à venir.
Bien cordialement.
Vulcanie
Nous pensons partir un mois en avril au Yunnan. Nous sommes un couple de retraités habitués à voyager seuls, sac à dos et bus locaux, nombreux voyages en Asie et Amérique du sud. Après des recherches infructueuses, j'ai trouvé une combinaison de vols avec Cathay Pacific à un prix correct : 620 euros et j'aimerais ne pas tarder à réserver car nous serons à la limite des vacances chinoises. Idéalement : Paris-Kunming le 27 mars avec retour Kunming-HK le 26 avril ( 30 jours sur place du visa ) et HK-Paris le 30 avril.
C'est la solution la plus simple, tout est réservé et payé, si nous nous limitons au Yunnan. Mais en 30 jours sur place, pouvons-nous envisager un élargissement au Sichuan dans la 2ème partie du séjour avant de rejoindre HK ? Durée ? Allons-nous trop courir ? Nous aimons tout : paysages grandioses, villages, villes anciennes, culture, populations. Comment articuler les 2 régions ? Nous commencerions par le Yunnan à cause des rizières et du climat. Dans ce cas, ce n'est plus de Kunming qu'il faut repartir.
Ce qui me soucie, c'est la réservation des vols internes qui ne peut se faire maintenant et qui peuvent être complets à cette période.
Le plus important est le vol de Chine continentale à HK pour quitter le pays le 30ème jour. Celui-ci, je veux le réserver maintenant. Et la question est donc : repartir de Kunming ? ou d'ailleurs si le temps et la météo nous permettent d'aller au Sichuan ?
Nous ne parlons pas chinois. De temps en temps, quand un tour est trop compliqué, nous pouvons prendre un guide local pour 1 ou 2 jours.
Visa : est- ce vrai que l'on ne peut le prendre que moins de 30 jours avant ? Obligation d'aller à Paris ? et pour le reprendre ? Ce court délai est un peu stressant s'il y a un problème.
Merci beaucoup pour vos conseils à venir.
Bien cordialement.
Vulcanie
Hi there,
We just got back from a 2-week trip to China as a couple, and before we left, the budget was the hardest thing to picture concretely. We found plenty of info on visas, apps, transport, and itineraries, but way fewer detailed breakdowns of what you *actually* spend on the ground.
So, we took the time to share our real budget for 14 days. In our case, we spent around 1,800 € per person, with a big chunk of that going toward round-trip flights at about 600 € per person. We were also pretty surprised by how affordable China can be once you’re there—transport is often cheap, and a lot of everyday expenses stay reasonable.
The trickiest part, in the end, was figuring out how to pay while you’re there, since it’s not always obvious if you’re not prepared. But once everything’s set up and you get the hang of it, it’s really smooth.
If this can help other travelers get a better idea before they go, we’ve broken it all down here:
https://aventures-sans-mesaventure.com/budget-2-semaines-de-voyage-en-chine/
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! Hélia
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! Hélia
Bonjour
Je m inquiète pas trop mais quand meme
Nous partons mi avril pour Tokyo mais notre vol avec Air China nous fait faire un stop a Pékin de 3 h
J ai peur qu on ne nous laisse pas descendre a Tokyo et me demande si le mieux n est pas de faire des démarches maintenant ?
Merci
bonjour,
je me permet de soumettre ce message suite à l'annulation du voyage en Chine que je devais effectuer début février dans le nord de la chine (GLA GLA) à l'invitation d'une jeune chinoise ( non je ne fais pas du tourisme sexuel , mais c'est plus facile de parler avec les jeunes chinoises qui pratiquent l'anglais et sont moins timides que les garçons ).
Je partais avec lufthansa qui a annulé tous cs vols donc ils devraient me rembourser.
Par contre, il y a d'autres frais ( parking aéroport et visas en particulier).
Petite info pour les futurs partant pour la Chine habitant dans le sud.
Cela devait être mon 3iéme séjour en chine, et c'était ma 3 iéme demande de visa.
Les 2 première fois j'étais passsé par une agence de Paris bien connu ( pas trop de problèmes).
Et cette fois -ci , à cause de la prise d'empreintes, je me suis rendu au centre de Marseille ( 1 journée pour moi qui habite dans les Cévennes). J'avais prévu les mêmes demandes qu'à Paris.
Et bien NON.
Pour les nuits d'hotel , il ne suffisait pas de 2 nuits ( alors que mon séjour était plus court ).
L'employé ( que j'aurais fusillé si je l'avais pu) m'a dit que je n'avais pas assez de nuits.
Heureusement que c'était le 24 décembre, qu'il n'y avait personne et un ordinateur qui m'a permis de prendre des nuits à beijing pour tout le séjour alors que je ne comptais même pas y passer une nuit , allant dans le nord de la chine à l'invitation d'une chinoise ( oui je sais, mais la lettre d'invitation c'est encore plus compliqué et comme je n'avais pas encore les billets de trains de nuit , j'avais peur que ç a marche pas).
Et attention aussi à la photo d'identité qui doit avoir moins de 3 ou 6 mois.
Donc quelqu'un sait-il comment se faire rembourser ( si possible) les frais annexes comme le frais de parking et le visa ( 200euros avev le service postal) .Avec l'assurance de la carte bancaire?
Je répond par avance.
je considère aussi que cela fait partie des risques du voyage ( c'est pour cela que je ne prend jamais les options annulations en général) mais parfois il y des cas de forces majeures qui te semblent vraiment injustes.
Et je ne parlerais pas de ce qui arrive au peuple chinois qui n'a rien demandé.
PS : amitié à mon guide vers Shandiping qui se reconnaitra. J'ai des nouvelles très fraiches : tout va bien pour l'instant là bas.
Bonjour,
J'ai un peu chercher, mais je n'ai trouvé aucune info récente sur ce sujet...
Est-il possible de rejoindre Taiwan en ferry depuis la Chine?
Si oui, depuis quelle ville, et surtout comment réserver?
Merci d'avance pour votre aide!
J'ai un peu chercher, mais je n'ai trouvé aucune info récente sur ce sujet...
Est-il possible de rejoindre Taiwan en ferry depuis la Chine?
Si oui, depuis quelle ville, et surtout comment réserver?
Merci d'avance pour votre aide!
Bonjour. On a une escale de 12 h à Hong Kong le 29 août. On avait prévu d’aller visiter la ville. Est ce que cela vous semble risquer en ce moment, en raison des heurts ou des grèves possibles (pas envie de rater l’avion) ou est-ce toujours possible? Y’a t il un circuit à privilégier ou des coins à éviter? Merci d’avance.
Bonjour à tous !
J'ai une escale de 24h à Pékin avant de partir au Vietnam, j'aurais souhaité aller poser les pieds sur la muraille de Chine. Je l'ai déjà fait il y a 10 ans mais impossible de me souvenir où je suis allée exactement.
Quel est le coin de la Muraille le plus beau, plus accessible en taxi depuis l'aéroport de Pékin ?
Merci beaucoup pour votre aide, Emilie
Merci beaucoup pour votre aide, Emilie
Bonjour
Je suis déjà allée au Sichuan mais....c'était en 1995!!! Je projette d'y retourner une petite semaine en septembre de cette année. J'ai déjà vu le bouddha de Leshan mais je compte y retourner pour le montrer à une amie. Sinon qu'y aurait-il de sympa à faire aux alentours de Chengdu et qui ne soit pas envahi de touristes occidentaux🙂Je parle chinois donc les touristes chinois ne me gênent pas du tout😉quoique si un endroit est accessible assez facilement et qu'il n'y ait que nous comme touristes....je suis aussi preneuse!
Par ailleurs j'ai regardé les tarifs des vols Beijing-Chengdu aller-retour.....c'est aussi cher que le vol aller-retour France-Chine🤪 A moins que quelqu'un ait une combine pour payer moins cher (bien moins cher!!!) j'envisagerais alors ce même trajet en train, ça peut être sympa non?
En 1995 de la ville de Leshan il y avait des petites embarcations pour aller jusqu'au bouddha, je suppose que c'est encore possible...
Autre chose (j'amortis mon message!!) y a-t-il des bus, des cars etc..qui fassent "Chengdu-Leshan" dans la journée?
Merci pour toute information relative aux différentes interrogations soulevées!😎
Bonjour,
Je suis à Hong Kong pendant 3 mois (visa touriste), et j'aimerais savoir si je peux sortir d'Hong Kong, me rendre directement à l'aéroport de Shenzhen pour prendre un pour le Vietnam, et revenir 4/5 jours plus tard à Shenzhen, pour me rendre directement à nouveau à Hong Kong?
J'ai vu qu'il y'avait un visa de 5 jours pour Shenzhen pour une vingtaine d'euro? ou même un visa gratuit pour un transit de 24h?
Est-ce que l'un ou l'autre me permettrait de faire cet itinéraire?
En fait j'aimerais passer quelques week-ends durant ces 3 mois aux alentours (dont le Vietnam du coup) mais les vols sont super chers depuis HK, contrairement à Shenzhen...
Merci d'avance pour vos réponses
Alan
Je suis à Hong Kong pendant 3 mois (visa touriste), et j'aimerais savoir si je peux sortir d'Hong Kong, me rendre directement à l'aéroport de Shenzhen pour prendre un pour le Vietnam, et revenir 4/5 jours plus tard à Shenzhen, pour me rendre directement à nouveau à Hong Kong?
J'ai vu qu'il y'avait un visa de 5 jours pour Shenzhen pour une vingtaine d'euro? ou même un visa gratuit pour un transit de 24h?
Est-ce que l'un ou l'autre me permettrait de faire cet itinéraire?
En fait j'aimerais passer quelques week-ends durant ces 3 mois aux alentours (dont le Vietnam du coup) mais les vols sont super chers depuis HK, contrairement à Shenzhen...
Merci d'avance pour vos réponses
Alan
Bonjour,
Comment aller de Jinghong à Dali ? Le prix des billets d'avion vu de France me semble exhorbitant. En bus de nuit est-ce possible et sans danger ( état des routes )?
Merci pour vos réponses
Bonjour à tous,
Je souhaite faire un petit séjour d'une semaine en Chine avec un ami pour voir un peu le marché du high Tech (Shenzen, Yiwu) à petit prix (vol à part et petit hôtel)....si vous auriez des conseils au sujet des aéroports à prendre, prix et délais du visa, vaccins obligatoires, autres lieux où on peut trouver des marchands....sachant qu'il s'agit simplement de repérage...merci à vous.
Bonjour,
Qelles solutions pour faire le trajet Chengdu/Kunming.
Avec mes remerciements Ludi
Avec mes remerciements Ludi
Bonjour à tous ,
je suis entrain de préparer notre premier voyage en Chine avec ma femme.
Nous partons fin décembre à Shanghai pour assister à un mariage et nous voulons en profiter pour visiter le pays.
Nous partons environ pour 25 jours.
A Shanghai nous allons rester 5 jours et à partir de là j'essaye de concocter un tour cohérent vu l'immensité de la Chine.
J'ai pensé faire :
- 5 jours Shanghai
- avion Shanghai Guilin et 3 jours à Guilin
- avion Guilin Kunming 3 jours à Kunming
- bus Kunming -Dali 2 jours à Dali
- avion Kunming Xi'an 2 jours à Xi'an
- avion Xi'an Pekin 5 jours à Pekin
puis retour. Merci aux voyageurs connaisseurs du pays s'ils veulent bien me donner leur avis .
puis retour. Merci aux voyageurs connaisseurs du pays s'ils veulent bien me donner leur avis .
Bonjour à tous,
Je me permets de créer une discussion pour avoir une validation sur la façon de rejoindre Hong Kong de Yangshuo.
J'ai cru voir sur Internet qu'il fallait :
YANGSHUO > GUILIN : rejoindre Guilin en bus (environ 2 heures)
GUILIN > SHENZHEN : en train grande vitesse (quelle durée?)
SHENZHEN > HONG KONG : Métro de Shenzhen au centre ville
Quelqu'un peut il m'indiquer si ce parcours vous semble réalisable ?
Merci de votre retour,
Je me permets de créer une discussion pour avoir une validation sur la façon de rejoindre Hong Kong de Yangshuo.
J'ai cru voir sur Internet qu'il fallait :
YANGSHUO > GUILIN : rejoindre Guilin en bus (environ 2 heures)
GUILIN > SHENZHEN : en train grande vitesse (quelle durée?)
SHENZHEN > HONG KONG : Métro de Shenzhen au centre ville
Quelqu'un peut il m'indiquer si ce parcours vous semble réalisable ?
Merci de votre retour,
Bonjour,
je m'adresse à vous car je pense réaliser cette année mon premier voyage en Chine (probablement seul). Je vais partir lors de la dernière semaine du mois d'aout (j'envisage 8 jours pleins), pour des raisons personnelles.
Et là se pose la première question : où aller ? Pour cette période de temps, j'hésite entre Pékin et Shanghai.
Pour Pékin, j'imagine rester sur place, avec des excursions pour les tombeaux des Ming et la grande muraille, et pourquoi pas une visite au dehors. Je pensais à Chengde. Niveau timing, est-ce bon ? Y a t-il des "meilleures" choses dans les environs de Pékin ?
J'ai pensé à Shanghai car j'aimerai bien voir à la fois le côté moderne, traditionnel et naturel de la Chine. Ainsi, voir un village d'eau et aller marcher au Montagnes jaunes. Seulement, est-ce que je ne vais pas m'ennuyer en 8 jours ? Y a t-il des destinations à ajouter ?
Je tiens à dire qu'étant un peu court financièrement, je n'envisage pas de vols internes.
Voilà l'état de mes réflexions. Quel serait votre avis, vos conseils ? Y a t-il des paramètres que je n'ai pas pris en compte à cette période ?
Merci beaucoup, dans l'attente de vous lire :)
je m'adresse à vous car je pense réaliser cette année mon premier voyage en Chine (probablement seul). Je vais partir lors de la dernière semaine du mois d'aout (j'envisage 8 jours pleins), pour des raisons personnelles.
Et là se pose la première question : où aller ? Pour cette période de temps, j'hésite entre Pékin et Shanghai.
Pour Pékin, j'imagine rester sur place, avec des excursions pour les tombeaux des Ming et la grande muraille, et pourquoi pas une visite au dehors. Je pensais à Chengde. Niveau timing, est-ce bon ? Y a t-il des "meilleures" choses dans les environs de Pékin ?
J'ai pensé à Shanghai car j'aimerai bien voir à la fois le côté moderne, traditionnel et naturel de la Chine. Ainsi, voir un village d'eau et aller marcher au Montagnes jaunes. Seulement, est-ce que je ne vais pas m'ennuyer en 8 jours ? Y a t-il des destinations à ajouter ?
Je tiens à dire qu'étant un peu court financièrement, je n'envisage pas de vols internes.
Voilà l'état de mes réflexions. Quel serait votre avis, vos conseils ? Y a t-il des paramètres que je n'ai pas pris en compte à cette période ?
Merci beaucoup, dans l'attente de vous lire :)
Bonjour à tous,
Je reviens sur le Forum avec une autre discussion que le Sichuan et donc une nouvelle proposition d'itinéraire... car j'ai peur que le Sichuan soit trop compliqué et cher.
Du coup j'ai pensé à l'itinéraire suivant sur 2 ou 3 semaines à définir en fonction de vos commentaires en partie :
PARIS PEKIN
PEKIN XIAN
XIAN SHANGHAI (vol interne)
SHANGHAI GUILIN (vol interne) YANSHUO
YANGSHUO LONGSHENG
RETOUR PARIS...de quel aéroport... aucune idée...
L'itinéraire vous parait il faisable ? Ces vols internes semblent moins cher que pour le Sichuan... Le problème vient un peu du fait d'arriver à Pékin et de ne pas repartir forcément de cette ville... un départ de GUILIN est peut être possible!
Merci de vos retours:)
Je reviens sur le Forum avec une autre discussion que le Sichuan et donc une nouvelle proposition d'itinéraire... car j'ai peur que le Sichuan soit trop compliqué et cher.
Du coup j'ai pensé à l'itinéraire suivant sur 2 ou 3 semaines à définir en fonction de vos commentaires en partie :
PARIS PEKIN
PEKIN XIAN
XIAN SHANGHAI (vol interne)
SHANGHAI GUILIN (vol interne) YANSHUO
YANGSHUO LONGSHENG
RETOUR PARIS...de quel aéroport... aucune idée...
L'itinéraire vous parait il faisable ? Ces vols internes semblent moins cher que pour le Sichuan... Le problème vient un peu du fait d'arriver à Pékin et de ne pas repartir forcément de cette ville... un départ de GUILIN est peut être possible!
Merci de vos retours:)
Hi there,
We’re thinking of spending 3 weeks in Asia this fall to visit some of the major capitals on this vast continent. We’d like to get a (very rough) sense of just how fast Asia is moving compared to what we see in the West (we’re from Quebec). For now, our very preliminary list includes Tokyo, Hong Kong, and Singapore. There are obviously plenty of other options—Seoul, Shanghai, etc.
What do you think? Thanks in advance!
We’re thinking of spending 3 weeks in Asia this fall to visit some of the major capitals on this vast continent. We’d like to get a (very rough) sense of just how fast Asia is moving compared to what we see in the West (we’re from Quebec). For now, our very preliminary list includes Tokyo, Hong Kong, and Singapore. There are obviously plenty of other options—Seoul, Shanghai, etc.
What do you think? Thanks in advance!
We’ve just returned from a 30-day trip to China, 20 years after our last visit to this vast country.
What a transformation! So many new highways, high-speed trains, clean public restrooms, very comfortable and affordable hotels, and queues before boarding public transport… Has China really changed this much?
Language Technology has helped overcome—on a very small scale, of course—the language barrier thanks to translation apps on our phones. Unfortunately, very few Chinese people speak English, even in international hotels, which we find baffling, even frustrating, but that’s just how it is, and it’s up to us to adapt. It’s a shame, too, because no one makes an effort to communicate any other way than through their phone, which wasn’t the case when we were there 20 years ago. In restaurants, hotels, and some shops, they’ll show you a voice translation—usually in English—on a phone, and all you have to do is respond.
Payments We never withdrew cash in China. It’s possible to do so, but we never looked for an ATM. On the other hand, we tried to exchange 100 € as soon as we arrived in Xi’an, and it was a real ordeal. We had to do it at a specific bank, The Bank of China, and the administrative process took… an hour! So, no cash. Like everyone else, we used Alipay, one of the most popular online payment systems, and it’s super easy to use. WeChat also works well but is a bit more complicated to set up. It’s so convenient and used absolutely everywhere, even for purchases of 5 yuan, which is roughly the equivalent of about 55 euro cents. 10 yuan equals 1.22 €.
Phone As for the internet, I had installed a VPN before leaving—Let’s VPN—but it was completely useless since we had subscribed to an international plan with our carrier before the trip, which gave us 35 GB of data. No need to ask hotels for Wi-Fi; we only used roaming. It worked perfectly, no matter where we were. So, no VPN or SIM card for us.
TWO ESSENTIAL TOOLS FOR TRAVELING: your passport and your phone Traveling to China is much simpler than you might think. And let’s add that the Chinese, despite the language barrier, are very open and always ready to help.
The itinerary After carefully planning our route and considering the length of our stay (I had initially thought about applying for a visa longer than 30 days to stay for 6 weeks in China), we decided to take advantage of the recent option to stay for 30 days. Of course, we had to make some choices. I booked a one-way ticket from Paris to Xi’an and a return from Kunming to Paris once the itinerary was set: 9 days in northern Gansu 4 days in Hunan, specifically the well-known Zhangjiajie 15 days in Yunnan
Organization, transport, hotels This wasn’t a "backpacker" trip, as the hotels we booked were generally comfortable. I had arranged a car with a driver for the Yunnan portion through the Ciel Yunnan agency. Excellent choice—it allowed us to optimize our route. For the Gansu and Hunan portions, after much deliberation, we decided against hiring a driver. All our travel was by train and taxi. Taxis are available near train stations, airports, and some hotels in big cities. We also used "Didi," the Chinese equivalent of Uber. The app is available through Alipay. Getting around China by train is extremely easy. You just need to book your tickets on a travel site. I used trip.com and travelchina. Since we weren’t traveling during peak season, it was easy to get the tickets we wanted. You can buy train tickets up to 15 days before departure. You can book earlier, but there’s no guarantee you’ll get the time you want, especially during tourist seasons (usually the first week of October or May). Once at the station, you only need to show your passport, and you’ll need it again when leaving the station. Taxis are easy to find and not expensive. For day trips, we usually went through the hotel. Like everyone else, I had checked the prices of online tour agencies beforehand, and they were all overpriced. It’s better to wait until the last minute or, if possible, contact the hotel and ask them. I did this twice. We took domestic flights three times: Xi’an to Dunhuang Lanzhou to Changsha Changsha to Lijiang It’s best to buy flights shortly before departure, as prices are quite low then. There’s no point in booking months in advance. Often, flights only appear 2 months before departure. All hotel reservations were made on trip.com, except for three booked on Booking. Almost all exceeded our expectations in terms of comfort. Rooms were usually spacious, and new technology even makes its way into the rooms with "smart" toilets and automatic curtains… All for a very reasonable price.
The "attractions" That’s the term used on travel sites like trip.com for visits and activities, and it fits perfectly! Don’t expect to move freely around a natural tourist site. Cars aren’t allowed. The process is more or less the same everywhere: you arrive at the visitor center, pay the entrance fee, then, with your ticket or passport (always keep them on you!), you board a bus that takes you to the various viewpoints. The duration of the "tour" is usually indicated. It might seem confusing or even unnatural, but no one can avoid it unless you go to very remote, non-touristy places. Generally, the further west you go, the less this type of visit exists. The upside is that these places are better preserved since access is only by electric shuttle. On the downside, you sometimes have to deal with noisy tourist groups, their guides’ loudspeakers, and their non-stop chatter. But if you move a little further away, you’ll often find yourself alone.
Highlights of this trip:🙂 A 2-day escape to the Badan Jaran Desert—absolutely stunning. The colorful mountains near Zhangye. The Buddhist caves in Gansu. The breathtaking Hani and Yi rice terraces in Yuanyang. The architecture of the old towns, even if they sometimes feel a bit overdone. The warm welcome from the locals.
A little disappointed by: Zhangjiajie, despite its beauty. It was way too crowded, even though we were there in the off-season. And that’s nothing compared to the Stone Forest near Kunming… I also struggled with the food after a while. 😕
A few photos to come…
Language Technology has helped overcome—on a very small scale, of course—the language barrier thanks to translation apps on our phones. Unfortunately, very few Chinese people speak English, even in international hotels, which we find baffling, even frustrating, but that’s just how it is, and it’s up to us to adapt. It’s a shame, too, because no one makes an effort to communicate any other way than through their phone, which wasn’t the case when we were there 20 years ago. In restaurants, hotels, and some shops, they’ll show you a voice translation—usually in English—on a phone, and all you have to do is respond.
Payments We never withdrew cash in China. It’s possible to do so, but we never looked for an ATM. On the other hand, we tried to exchange 100 € as soon as we arrived in Xi’an, and it was a real ordeal. We had to do it at a specific bank, The Bank of China, and the administrative process took… an hour! So, no cash. Like everyone else, we used Alipay, one of the most popular online payment systems, and it’s super easy to use. WeChat also works well but is a bit more complicated to set up. It’s so convenient and used absolutely everywhere, even for purchases of 5 yuan, which is roughly the equivalent of about 55 euro cents. 10 yuan equals 1.22 €.
Phone As for the internet, I had installed a VPN before leaving—Let’s VPN—but it was completely useless since we had subscribed to an international plan with our carrier before the trip, which gave us 35 GB of data. No need to ask hotels for Wi-Fi; we only used roaming. It worked perfectly, no matter where we were. So, no VPN or SIM card for us.
TWO ESSENTIAL TOOLS FOR TRAVELING: your passport and your phone Traveling to China is much simpler than you might think. And let’s add that the Chinese, despite the language barrier, are very open and always ready to help.
The itinerary After carefully planning our route and considering the length of our stay (I had initially thought about applying for a visa longer than 30 days to stay for 6 weeks in China), we decided to take advantage of the recent option to stay for 30 days. Of course, we had to make some choices. I booked a one-way ticket from Paris to Xi’an and a return from Kunming to Paris once the itinerary was set: 9 days in northern Gansu 4 days in Hunan, specifically the well-known Zhangjiajie 15 days in Yunnan
Organization, transport, hotels This wasn’t a "backpacker" trip, as the hotels we booked were generally comfortable. I had arranged a car with a driver for the Yunnan portion through the Ciel Yunnan agency. Excellent choice—it allowed us to optimize our route. For the Gansu and Hunan portions, after much deliberation, we decided against hiring a driver. All our travel was by train and taxi. Taxis are available near train stations, airports, and some hotels in big cities. We also used "Didi," the Chinese equivalent of Uber. The app is available through Alipay. Getting around China by train is extremely easy. You just need to book your tickets on a travel site. I used trip.com and travelchina. Since we weren’t traveling during peak season, it was easy to get the tickets we wanted. You can buy train tickets up to 15 days before departure. You can book earlier, but there’s no guarantee you’ll get the time you want, especially during tourist seasons (usually the first week of October or May). Once at the station, you only need to show your passport, and you’ll need it again when leaving the station. Taxis are easy to find and not expensive. For day trips, we usually went through the hotel. Like everyone else, I had checked the prices of online tour agencies beforehand, and they were all overpriced. It’s better to wait until the last minute or, if possible, contact the hotel and ask them. I did this twice. We took domestic flights three times: Xi’an to Dunhuang Lanzhou to Changsha Changsha to Lijiang It’s best to buy flights shortly before departure, as prices are quite low then. There’s no point in booking months in advance. Often, flights only appear 2 months before departure. All hotel reservations were made on trip.com, except for three booked on Booking. Almost all exceeded our expectations in terms of comfort. Rooms were usually spacious, and new technology even makes its way into the rooms with "smart" toilets and automatic curtains… All for a very reasonable price.
The "attractions" That’s the term used on travel sites like trip.com for visits and activities, and it fits perfectly! Don’t expect to move freely around a natural tourist site. Cars aren’t allowed. The process is more or less the same everywhere: you arrive at the visitor center, pay the entrance fee, then, with your ticket or passport (always keep them on you!), you board a bus that takes you to the various viewpoints. The duration of the "tour" is usually indicated. It might seem confusing or even unnatural, but no one can avoid it unless you go to very remote, non-touristy places. Generally, the further west you go, the less this type of visit exists. The upside is that these places are better preserved since access is only by electric shuttle. On the downside, you sometimes have to deal with noisy tourist groups, their guides’ loudspeakers, and their non-stop chatter. But if you move a little further away, you’ll often find yourself alone.
Highlights of this trip:🙂 A 2-day escape to the Badan Jaran Desert—absolutely stunning. The colorful mountains near Zhangye. The Buddhist caves in Gansu. The breathtaking Hani and Yi rice terraces in Yuanyang. The architecture of the old towns, even if they sometimes feel a bit overdone. The warm welcome from the locals.
A little disappointed by: Zhangjiajie, despite its beauty. It was way too crowded, even though we were there in the off-season. And that’s nothing compared to the Stone Forest near Kunming… I also struggled with the food after a while. 😕
A few photos to come…
Hi there,
I’m getting ready for a classic tourist trip to China in May 2026.
The "Terres Lointaines" itinerary looks good to me, and the price is interesting.
Has anyone traveled with them before? Any feedback?
Is there a better option?
Thanks so much for sharing your experiences on this!
Michel
Hi there,
A quick recap of our 19-day trip to China – classic itinerary, half-family: dad and 13-year-old son, August 2025.
Arrived in Shanghai, the idea was to explore the city in the evening to help with jet lag. Day 1: Maglev (50 CNY), then metro to the hotel, night cruise on the Huangpu River, admiring the skyline. Day 2: Yuyuan Garden (meh), Lujiazui district, sunset from the top of Jinmao Tower, stroll along the Bund, admiring the skyline. Day 3: Chaos at the Shanghai Museum – should’ve booked in advance. Backup plan: Longhua Temple (nice), Tianzi Fang district (great). Day 4: Aquarium (okay), Pearl Tower, Fake Market (top), then flight to Guilin. Taxi from Guilin to Yangshuo (400 CNY arranged by the hotel). Verdict: Maybe one day too many. Late mornings (jet lag) kept us from visiting the water town. Day 5: Yangshuo – scooter ride (40 CNY) along the Yulong River. Day 6: Early Didi (30 min) to the top of Xiang Gong Shan (ideally for sunrise). Then a walk through the countryside to the Li River, crossing by boat (10 CNY) to Xingping. You can shorten the walk by flagging down a mini-shuttle that shuttles Chinese tourists in the opposite direction. Explored Xingping, scooter ride, 20 CNY viewpoint, sunset from Laozhai Hill, back to Yangshuo. Day 7: Scooter ride to spots we missed on Day 5. Verdict: It’s stunning. Might be worth staying in Guilin the first night and booking a cruise to Yangshuo the next day on the Li River. Day 8: Bus (4/5h, 100 CNY) to Longji/Dazhai. Hotel in Tianzhouzai – I think it’s better to stay in Ping’an, it’s more typical. Dazhai is generally overdeveloped. Day 9: Full-day hike from Dazhai to Ping’an, then bus back to Dazhai. Super nice walk, only crossed paths with 4 people. Day 10: Walk around the top of Dazhai, but the trails are poorly maintained – no loop possible. Verdict: Gorgeous, probably one day too many, but the area is very rainy, so it’s good to have a buffer. Day 11: Private taxi (4/5h, 200 €) to Fenghuang. Explored the town in the evening – really nice. Day 12: Short visit to Fenghuang during the day, then train to Zhangjiajie and Wulingyuan. Hotel pool. Day 13: Early start: Zhangjiajie Park via Wulingyuan entrance, Route A (starting with the cable car). Fabulous. If I did it again, I’d take Route B to get early access to the section near the giant elevator. Day 14: Early start: Zhangjiajie Park via the south entrance – superb. Day 15: Wulingyuan Grand Canyon, glass bridge – nice but not essential. Day 16: Tianmen Mountain in the afternoon. You can leave your luggage at the entrance. Routes A and B sell out quickly. Note that Route C no longer uses buses to the top – there’s a brand-new cable car instead, which I think is actually better than A and B. Really nice, worth doing. Evening flight to Beijing. Verdict: The canyon could be done the same morning as Tianmen Mountain, or even skipped. Day 17: Visited the Forbidden City (book a week in advance!), missed the entry slot for Tiananmen Square (book in advance!) due to security checks. Visited the Lama Temple. Stayed in a hutong. Day 18: Great Wall at Mutianyu. Private taxi (100 € round trip – probably overpaid) to arrive before 7 AM. Then back to Beijing, Temple of Heaven, and finally the modest skyline from the mall at Guomao metro station. Day 19: Fake markets (pointless – they’re stripped of their usual goods compared to Shanghai’s), Summer Palace, then Wangfujing Street. Headed to the airport. Verdict: 3 days is too short for Beijing.
Overall impressions: Highlights: Incredible places (cities and landscapes), often vast and fascinating, a total change of scenery. Very easy and smooth to travel despite the clear language barrier. Excellent food, very affordable, very few scams. Lowlights: Intense heat and humidity in August, *way* too many tourists (99.9% Chinese), a real circus that makes the trip exhausting. Walking is tiring in the long run (even though we’re very active) because it’s all on stone paths and stairs. To avoid crowds, you’d need to wake up early every day – tough with kids, especially with jet lag.
Logistics: - Buses and private taxis arranged last-minute through hotels. - Didi is widely available everywhere, plentiful, and cheap. - Flights and trains booked on Trip.com a month in advance (fills up fast). - Hotels on Booking and Trip.com. Only the one in Yangshuo was booked well in advance – hotel capacity is huge everywhere. - Apps: Didi, Alipay, WeChat, Maps.me, Google Translate. Free 35 GB data plan, SIM card from the airport.
A quick recap of our 19-day trip to China – classic itinerary, half-family: dad and 13-year-old son, August 2025.
Arrived in Shanghai, the idea was to explore the city in the evening to help with jet lag. Day 1: Maglev (50 CNY), then metro to the hotel, night cruise on the Huangpu River, admiring the skyline. Day 2: Yuyuan Garden (meh), Lujiazui district, sunset from the top of Jinmao Tower, stroll along the Bund, admiring the skyline. Day 3: Chaos at the Shanghai Museum – should’ve booked in advance. Backup plan: Longhua Temple (nice), Tianzi Fang district (great). Day 4: Aquarium (okay), Pearl Tower, Fake Market (top), then flight to Guilin. Taxi from Guilin to Yangshuo (400 CNY arranged by the hotel). Verdict: Maybe one day too many. Late mornings (jet lag) kept us from visiting the water town. Day 5: Yangshuo – scooter ride (40 CNY) along the Yulong River. Day 6: Early Didi (30 min) to the top of Xiang Gong Shan (ideally for sunrise). Then a walk through the countryside to the Li River, crossing by boat (10 CNY) to Xingping. You can shorten the walk by flagging down a mini-shuttle that shuttles Chinese tourists in the opposite direction. Explored Xingping, scooter ride, 20 CNY viewpoint, sunset from Laozhai Hill, back to Yangshuo. Day 7: Scooter ride to spots we missed on Day 5. Verdict: It’s stunning. Might be worth staying in Guilin the first night and booking a cruise to Yangshuo the next day on the Li River. Day 8: Bus (4/5h, 100 CNY) to Longji/Dazhai. Hotel in Tianzhouzai – I think it’s better to stay in Ping’an, it’s more typical. Dazhai is generally overdeveloped. Day 9: Full-day hike from Dazhai to Ping’an, then bus back to Dazhai. Super nice walk, only crossed paths with 4 people. Day 10: Walk around the top of Dazhai, but the trails are poorly maintained – no loop possible. Verdict: Gorgeous, probably one day too many, but the area is very rainy, so it’s good to have a buffer. Day 11: Private taxi (4/5h, 200 €) to Fenghuang. Explored the town in the evening – really nice. Day 12: Short visit to Fenghuang during the day, then train to Zhangjiajie and Wulingyuan. Hotel pool. Day 13: Early start: Zhangjiajie Park via Wulingyuan entrance, Route A (starting with the cable car). Fabulous. If I did it again, I’d take Route B to get early access to the section near the giant elevator. Day 14: Early start: Zhangjiajie Park via the south entrance – superb. Day 15: Wulingyuan Grand Canyon, glass bridge – nice but not essential. Day 16: Tianmen Mountain in the afternoon. You can leave your luggage at the entrance. Routes A and B sell out quickly. Note that Route C no longer uses buses to the top – there’s a brand-new cable car instead, which I think is actually better than A and B. Really nice, worth doing. Evening flight to Beijing. Verdict: The canyon could be done the same morning as Tianmen Mountain, or even skipped. Day 17: Visited the Forbidden City (book a week in advance!), missed the entry slot for Tiananmen Square (book in advance!) due to security checks. Visited the Lama Temple. Stayed in a hutong. Day 18: Great Wall at Mutianyu. Private taxi (100 € round trip – probably overpaid) to arrive before 7 AM. Then back to Beijing, Temple of Heaven, and finally the modest skyline from the mall at Guomao metro station. Day 19: Fake markets (pointless – they’re stripped of their usual goods compared to Shanghai’s), Summer Palace, then Wangfujing Street. Headed to the airport. Verdict: 3 days is too short for Beijing.
Overall impressions: Highlights: Incredible places (cities and landscapes), often vast and fascinating, a total change of scenery. Very easy and smooth to travel despite the clear language barrier. Excellent food, very affordable, very few scams. Lowlights: Intense heat and humidity in August, *way* too many tourists (99.9% Chinese), a real circus that makes the trip exhausting. Walking is tiring in the long run (even though we’re very active) because it’s all on stone paths and stairs. To avoid crowds, you’d need to wake up early every day – tough with kids, especially with jet lag.
Logistics: - Buses and private taxis arranged last-minute through hotels. - Didi is widely available everywhere, plentiful, and cheap. - Flights and trains booked on Trip.com a month in advance (fills up fast). - Hotels on Booking and Trip.com. Only the one in Yangshuo was booked well in advance – hotel capacity is huge everywhere. - Apps: Didi, Alipay, WeChat, Maps.me, Google Translate. Free 35 GB data plan, SIM card from the airport.
We’re a retired French couple.
We’ve just spent 4 weeks in China:
- 1. Exploring Yunnan in a group (12 people); a journey that took us from the Vietnamese border in the south to the edges of Tibet in the north.
- 2. A private trip to Guizhou with just a driver.
We’re absolutely delighted with what we discovered: a modern country with excellent infrastructure (especially the low level of urban pollution thanks to the high number of electric vehicles, the absence of diesel, and no noisy motorbikes in these two less industrialized provinces), friendly Chinese people who were always ready to help us when we had difficulties or questions, and a rich natural and cultural heritage.
The language barrier remains the biggest challenge, despite instant translation tools.
For both trips, we booked through the agency CIELCHINE, which we highly recommend.
The value for money is unbeatable.
The services were luxurious, especially for us since we usually travel alone on a tight budget for accommodation and food.
The agency’s staff were perfectly competent and, what’s more, warm and welcoming.
For Yunnan, our guide SEBASTIEN, who was experienced and knowledgeable, won everyone over.
In Guizhou, our driver HUANG was professionally flawless and guided us through villages he knows well. Friendly and full of humor, he’d spontaneously talk to people he met, which made us be treated with much more kindness and allowed us to exchange a few basic words.
As you can see, I haven’t ticked anything negative—not because I’m hiding anything or have any ulterior motive, but because I’m completely satisfied and the experience even exceeded all my expectations.
Bonjour
Nous devons effectuer un voyage à Hongkong en octobre et au vu des évènements actuels sur Hongkong nous avons quelques appréhensions
Si quelqu'un peut nous renseigner à savoir s'il est raisonnable d'y aller quand même ou risque t'on de ne pouvoir prendre les avions et ne pas profiter des infrastructures comme les métros ferry etc
Par avance merci de nous faire partager vos conseils et connaissances sur ce sujet
Bonjour
Nous prévoyons de partir en Chine vers de 20 aout 2019 - en couple - 2 mois de voyage
Dans les 70 ans et en forme aimons découverte des minorités, randonnées, paysages époustouflants, hors des sentiers battus pas les touristes et rencontres avec les habitants et les bons petits plats chinois !
Cela parait introuvable avec les TO reconnus !!!!
Hôtels de luxes à proscrire - simplicité - propreté - confort requis
Aimerions trouver celui ou celle ayant fait ce voyage pouvant nous aider dans nos destinations et capable de répondre à notre curiosité
A l'avance MERCI
