Selon un post paru sur Flyer Talk, la prime classic en première disparaîtrait au profit de la seule flex prime ( le double de miles) à compter d'octobre 2009.
Un nouveau coup dur après l'augmentation récente:
PAR- NYC: 300.000 miles!
PAR - HKG : 400.000 miles!
Ils nous cherchent ou quoi ?
"AF is removing the regular / "classic" first class awards for all journeys from 25OCT09 (the start of the 2009/2010 winter schedule).
Only elite members will retain the ability to redeem their miles for AF first class awards, but only at double miles with the "flex scheme".
Also, booking classes for elite awards will change from 25OCT09:
W class (long-haul coach award for elites) will become R class
E class (business award for elites on the USA/Canada/Tahiti routes) will become M class"
Pour moi j'en ai rien à cirer : avec mon peu de miles, cela ne sert à rien. Si cela continue, ils vont finir par supprimer leur first, car plus personne ne la prendra : en effet, quand on regarde que le billet AF pour HKG est à 12 000 euros et celui de SQ pour Sydney à 8000 euros, il n' y a pas photo. La classe Fitst d'AF est TRES chère comparée à la concurence, et propose des prestaions parfois plus faibles : repas minables, pas de cabine personnelle (j'entends par là qui peuvent se fermer, comme sur SQ, EK, par exemple). Donc je ne serais pas étonné de sa suppression, même si je comprend que certains voyageurs fréquents voulaient profiter de leur miles.
AOADN' CDG-RUN RUN - TUL ORY - RUN ORY -Antananarivo Tuléar - Antsiranana BOD - ORY ORY - YUL CDG - YUL CDG - TXL
ce serait dommage ... moi qui garde des munitions pour l' Espace Première sur l'A380 ... on va attendre encore un peu même si je trouve cette info en contradiction avec le relèvement du nombre de miles pour les primes en P.
Also, booking classes for elite awards will change from 25OCT09:
W class (long-haul coach award for elites) will become R class
E class (business award for elites on the USA/Canada/Tahiti routes) will become M class"
Et là qu'y a-t-il derrière ? Je croyais que W était une classe réservée pour les billets Primes en Eco pour les Elite, pourquoi la changer ?
A moins que cette classe n'ai été aussi utilisée pour des billets payants. Auquel cas la création d'une classe dédiée permettrait de manipuler plus facilement les billets primes, et de les limiter aux vols sans aucun intérêt (comme cela a déjà été le cas pour les primes en Première et Affaires).
Attention AF, à force de tirer sur une corde elle finit par casser et pour moi entre la dégradation énorme du programme de fidélisation (qui a commencé avec la création de Flying Blue) et les 10 sièges de front dans les 777 (qui vont s'étendre aux 772 après les 77W) on n'est pas loin du point de rupture.
ce serait dommage ... moi qui garde des munitions pour l' Espace Première sur l'A380 ... on va attendre encore un peu même si je trouve cette info en contradiction avec le relèvement du nombre de miles pour les primes en P.
J'ai bien peur qu'ils n'y voient aucune contradiction mais un grand coup d'arrêt au programme.
Ce devrait continuer avec Delta / Northwest...
Also, booking classes for elite awards will change from 25OCT09:
W class (long-haul coach award for elites) will become R class
E class (business award for elites on the USA/Canada/Tahiti routes) will become M class"
Et là qu'y a-t-il derrière ? Je croyais que W était une classe réservée pour les billets Primes en Eco pour les Elite, pourquoi la changer ?
A moins que cette classe n'ai été aussi utilisée pour des billets payants. Auquel cas la création d'une classe dédiée permettrait de manipuler plus facilement les billets primes, et de les limiter aux vols sans aucun intérêt (comme cela a déjà été le cas pour les primes en Première et Affaires).
Attention AF, à force de tirer sur une corde elle finit par casser et pour moi entre la dégradation énorme du programme de fidélisation (qui a commencé avec la création de Flying Blue) et les 10 sièges de front dans les 777 (qui vont s'étendre aux 772 après les 77W) on n'est pas loin du point de rupture.
Je suis d'accord. En effet, les prestations d'AF sont de plus en plus chères et de plus en plus faibles. J'espère que l'extansion aux B772 tardera. Le programme de fidélité est nul (billet pour Berlin plus cher en prime qu'en payant!!!!!!!!), et le fait de densifier les cabines pour quelque misérable siège (15 sièges gagné), fait fuir des tonnes de clients. L'autre jour, j'hésitait à envoyer un mail ou courrier à AF pour leur demander l'optique du réaménagement des cabines, qui vont se vider au fur et à mesure en faveur de la concurence.🤪
AOADN' CDG-RUN RUN - TUL ORY - RUN ORY -Antananarivo Tuléar - Antsiranana BOD - ORY ORY - YUL CDG - YUL CDG - TXL
je trouve dommage de prendre une prime pour Berlin .... les billets primes sont à mon avis seulement interressant en P/J et les webawards, le reste je passe mon tour !
Le programme FB devient de moins en moins intéressant mais les billets primes promos pour l'Espace Affaires restent une excellente aubaine tout comme le fait de ne payer que 50% de miles pour un aller simple. Ces 2 caractéristiques n'existent pas chez M&M. Pour l'exclusivité de l'Espace Première avec des billets primes flex, c'est vraiment fait pour ne laisse dans l'Espace Premières que les passagers payants (ou surclassés).
Pour ce qui est des sièges en 3-4-3 sur les B77x, cela fera plutôt fuir les voyageurs fréquents mais pas vraiment les vacanciers. AF ne tient probablement plus trop à ses voyageurs fréquents en Tempo et l'introduction d'une Tempo + leur est destinée.
Après quelques année de fidélité à AF, j'ai complètement abandonné l'idée de voyager avec AF et Skyteam depuis l'an passé. Je suis chez désormais chez Star Alliance et c'est une alliance dynamique et dont le réseau grandit à vue d'oeil. Un autre monde.
Je suis d'accord. En effet, les prestations d'AF sont de plus en plus chères et de plus en plus faibles. J'espère que l'extansion aux B772 tardera. Le programme de fidélité est nul (billet pour Berlin plus cher en prime qu'en payant!!!!!!!!), et le fait de densifier les cabines pour quelque misérable siège (15 sièges gagné), fait fuir des tonnes de clients. L'autre jour, j'hésitait à envoyer un mail ou courrier à AF pour leur demander l'optique du réaménagement des cabines, qui vont se vider au fur et à mesure en faveur de la concurence.
Pour l'exclusivité de l'Espace Première avec des billets primes flex, c'est vraiment fait pour ne laisse dans l'Espace Premières que les passagers payants (ou surclassés).
Et les GPs surtout 😛
Mes vidéos de vols sur Vimeo
Ma carte de voyage sur Openflights
C'est donc cela, AF fait de la place en Première pour son personnel
Sur les 4 vols que j'ai effectué en First (2 avec LX, 1 avec TG et & avec AF; tous en bilelt prime), celui de AF fut le seul dans lequel la cabine First passa de 3 à 8 passagers, vraiment pas de chance.
Payer 400.000 miles FB (+ les taxes) pour faire un aller retour en
Première avec AF sur BKK ou dépenser 180.000 mies M&M en First avec
TG, le choix est vite fait. Et la comparaison de AF et TG en First
penche loin en faveur de TG.
Enfin, il ne faut pas oublier que le produit P AF va évoluer et pour une fois dans le bon sens, en particulier pour le service au sol:
The new Espace Premiere facilities due to open on 20th January 2009, will offer:
* dedicated check-in area of 300m2
* 900m2 lounge open from 04:30 until midnight
* 300m2 "relaxation and well-being" area
* 18 seats restaurant & bar
* 40m2 work area
180 dedicated AF employees will look after the EP paxs.
Cf: flyertalk et lagentsecret (le monde est petit 😛)
Mes vidéos de vols sur Vimeo
Ma carte de voyage sur Openflights
Enfin, il ne faut pas oublier que le produit P AF va évoluer et pour une fois dans le bon sens, en particulier pour le service au sol:
The new Espace Premiere facilities due to open on 20th January 2009, will offer:
* dedicated check-in area of 300m2
* 900m2 lounge open from 04:30 until midnight
* 300m2 "relaxation and well-being" area
* 18 seats restaurant & bar
* 40m2 work area
180 dedicated AF employees will look after the EP paxs.
Oui, enfin cela fait longtemps qu'il y a ca sur CX a HK 😏😏😏 Quand au service a bord j'en parle meme pas 😉
"Ne croyez pas en ce qu'ils disent. Croyez en ce qu'ils font." "Bu yao xiang xing ta men suo xiang de, yao xiang xing ta men suo shuo de."
Et là qu'y a-t-il derrière ? Je croyais que W était une classe réservée pour les billets Primes en Eco pour les Elite, pourquoi la changer ?
A moins que cette classe n'ai été aussi utilisée pour des billets payants. Auquel cas la création d'une classe dédiée permettrait de manipuler plus facilement les billets primes, et de les limiter aux vols sans aucun intérêt (comme cela a déjà été le cas pour les primes en Première et Affaires).
Je me cite moi-même, mais c'est que j'ai trouvé l'explication du mystère sur Flyertalk:
"The new booking class structure will be as follows:
PF JCDIZM*O* YBKHTVR*LQNX*UG"
Comme aujourd'hui c'est
PF JCDIZM*O* YBKHW*TVX*LQNUG
cela veut dire que la disponibilité des primes pour les Élites en Eco sera réduite au niveau de ce qu'elle est actuellement pour les non Élites, quand à celle pour les non Élites elle sera plus basse que les classes tarifaires qui ne rapportent même pas 100% de miles.
La conclusion est que si la prime classic disparait officiellement en première, elle disparait aussi, mais insidieusement, en Eco car pour avoir de la disponibilité, il faudra passer aux Flex awards qui coutent le double de miles.
La conclusion est que si la prime classic disparait officiellement en première, elle disparait aussi, mais insidieusement, en Eco car pour avoir de la disponibilité, il faudra passer aux Flex awards qui coutent le double de miles.
Vous avez raison, ils sont en train de freiner des 4 fers.
Ils ont 200 milliards de miles à récupérer pour leur bilan.
Encore une désilusion.....;
Après les nouvelles conditions du prgramme FB du 1/04/09...
Je pensai emmener ma femme en Première à Tahiti pour nos 10 ans de mariage...
AF se fout de nous.
Quelqu'un peut il confirmer que cette rumeur est fondée??
J'ai peu de miles (32 000) sur FB mais je me disais que je peux les grapiller petit à petit pour un A/R en Première sur Hong Kong ou Los Angeles ou Papeete...
Mais maintenant que ce sera fini, là, je ne vois plus aucun interet de cumuler des miles, franchement ! (même avec la Amex FB).
Je ne comprends vraiment pas leur politique... Et comment ceci peut être validé...🤪
Et c'est pas donné : 60000 miles pour un surclassement de la classe Affaires à la Première pour le Moyen Orient alors que je viens de payer 35000 miles pour le même surclassement avec LX.
AF a semble t'il accéléré le mouvement dans la réforme des barêmes chez FB, théoriquement la classe A surclassement affaires vers P était possible jusque fin octobre , mais ce n'est plus le cas ....la A est en machine sur certains vols mais FB refuse de l'attribuer ce qui veut dire que la décision a été prise à la va vite et les agents FB vous disent "non available"
conclusion pour CDG/PPT :
- prime affaires normale si dispo ou flex avec double de miles mais bien plus de miles qu'avant
- pour la P il faut être ELITE pour avoir accés à la prime et il n'y a plus que de la Flex disponible soient 360000MILES jusque fin octobre où là nous passerons à 400000miles alors qu'avant on pouvait faire deux aller retour en P gratuits et un aller simple P pour 400000 miles environ....
Nous sommes loin du billet prime en classe A qui sur un PPT/CDG en P était encore récemment à 160000miles .....et la classe affaires à 120000 miles...désormais à cette allure ce seront les miles quil faudra pour faire Paris /NIce....
Si trop de clients s'en vont AF sera bien obligé de revoir sa position.
Air France ne va tout de même pas risquer de perdre de bons clients au profit de Miles and More notamment !
Non, je ne pense pas que FB reviendra sur sa décision qui était mûrement réfléchie.
Bien des passagers n'ont pas le choix de la compagnie donc pour eux, peu importe que FB change les règles.
Pour d'autres, qui peuvent choisir la compagnie, c'est le prix qui priment, donc là aussi les changements de FB importent peu.
Pour les voyageurs occasionnels, FB ne les intéresse normalement pas ou très peu.
Il reste donc les voyageurs fréquents qui ont le choix de la compagnie... est-ce que tous ceux qui vont choisir une alternative à FB vont peser dans la balance, ce n'est pas sûr.
Pour en revenir à un petit comparatif entre FB et M&M, concernant les surclassements d'éco en affaires, il y a aussi une grande différence car M&M permet un surclassement à partir de n'importe quelle classe (sauf offres spéciales) tandis que FB ne le permet qu'avec les tarifs économiques flexibles les plus chers.
Pas mal mais je suis bien mieux lotie que vous avec ma BMI Diamond Club.
Pour le même A/R entre FRA-HNL il m'en coutera.
100'000 miles + 675£ OU 200'000 miles
Pour un A/R FRA-PPT le tarif est de:
125'000 miles + 850£ OU 250'000 miles
et pour un TDM le tarif est de:
250'000 miles + 1'700£ OU 500'000 miles
Tout ces tarif sont pour un vol en FIRST
LIEN vers la liste des tarifs BMI
Sachant qu'un A/R France-UK c'est 4'500 miles + 40£ et que si vous vous inscrivez, vous aurez un bonus de miles de 5'000 comme prime de bienvenu. C'est tout bénéfice d'aller chez BMI pour cumuler les miles de la Star Alliance.
Pas mal mais je suis bien mieux lotie que vous avec ma BMI Diamond Club.
Pour le même A/R entre FRA-HNL il m'en coutera.
100'000 miles + 675£ OU 200'000 miles
Pour un A/R FRA-PPT le tarif est de:
125'000 miles + 850£ OU 250'000 miles
et pour un TDM le tarif est de:
250'000 miles + 1'700£ OU 500'000 miles
Tout ces tarif sont pour un vol en FIRST
LIEN vers la liste des tarifs BMI
Sachant qu'un A/R France-UK c'est 4'500 miles + 40£ et que si vous vous inscrivez, vous aurez un bonus de miles de 5'000 comme prime de bienvenu. C'est tout bénéfice d'aller chez BMI pour cumuler les miles de la Star Alliance.
LIEN: Prime de 5'000 miles
Hiroko
Disposant moi-même d'une carte Diamond Club Gold avec bmi, je ne peux que confirmer tout cela et j'ai déjà bien profité du Miles+Cash pour des awards en First 🙂😛😉
Et après 10 ans en tant que Gold, on le devient à vie (si le programme de fidélité existe encore d'ici là car Lufthansa rachetant bmi, il se peut que DC soit remplacé par M&M).
Ce changement sera je pense effectif que lorsque LH rachètera BMI ce qui n'est pas encore chose faite car LH exige des actuelle actionnaire de BMI qu'ils renfloue les caisses avant rachat 400 milions d'€ à ce que j'ai lue. Ceux-ci se faisant tirer l'oreil pour optempérer.
De plus un autre argument plaidant pour que le BMIDC reste actife c'est le fait que LH doit en premier lieu digérer toutes les compagnies qu'elle a mangée ces derniers mois. Avant d'aller se reservire au buffet.
Virgin Atlantic serait aussi intéressée par BMI, qui lui permettrait d'offrir des débouchés en europe pour ses vols long courrier et renforcer l'attractivité du hub de Heathrow. BMI et Virgin seraient totalement complémentaires !
Bien des passagers n'ont pas le choix de la compagnie donc pour eux, peu importe que FB change les règles.
En principe oui. Personnellement, je dirais plutôt que l'inertie est plus longue (elle passe par des prescripteurs et une direction), mais que des décisions vont finir par être prises, chez des grands comptes aussi. Donc, je considère cette politique d'AF/FB comme "après moi le déluge". Ce, d'autant plus que les billets primes, bien gérés, ne leur coûtent pratiquement rien.
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Hi there,
I’m planning a winter trip across India. Departing in early December and returning to France in mid-April.
My main concern is finding an airline that offers this round-trip with the fewest hassles regarding cancellations or flight schedule changes. The unstable geopolitical situation in the Middle East isn’t making this search any easier—recent reviews online about airlines from Gulf states describe quite a few struggles over the past few months.
The direct Paris-Delhi round-trip flights offered by Air France or Air India are probably the safest options, but not the cheapest!
Given this uncertainty, I’m still holding off on finalizing my ticket purchase... Maybe some of you India lovers on VoyageForum have tips or experiences to share?
Thanks, and happy travels to all.
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Madagascar in early October to cycle from Tana to Diego along the east coast.
I really want to visit the Masoala Peninsula and its primary forest. If anyone’s interested, I’m open to company.
Maybe see you soon!
Hi,
I’m thinking of heading to Malaysia soon.
I’ve seen some great prices and direct flights from Paris with Malaysia Airlines.
Is it a reliable airline?
Thanks for your feedback!
Back in February, I booked a flight with Air France-KLM from Lyon to San Diego with a layover in Amsterdam (flights operated by KLM). The flight is scheduled for late August.
My Lyon→Amsterdam flight was canceled by KLM in June, and a replacement flight the evening before was booked for me. So, I’ll end up spending the night at Amsterdam Airport to catch my flight to San Diego the next morning.
Since the cancellation happened more than 14 days before departure, I know I’m not entitled to financial compensation (EU Regulation 261/2004). But am I entitled to reimbursement for a hotel night in Amsterdam?
Hi there,
We had planned a trip to Sicily in August, and due to the volcanic eruption of Mount Etna, my flight was canceled. The airline is refunding the outbound flight, but none of the non-refundable expenses: accommodation booked through Booking, rental car, and the return flight aren’t covered. My SUPER Gold card doesn’t work in this specific case! :( If anyone has been in this situation, could you let me know if you were able to get any recourse and, if so, how?
Thanks in advance
I’ve been traveling regularly for over twenty years,
but this is the first time an airline has treated me as poorly as Air France.
Two trips, two problems. The latest:
Trip from Seoul to Rennes. Last leg from Paris CDG to Rennes with Air France.
I arrive in Paris and go straight to Air France to get my boarding pass to Rennes. They assure me my baggage is continuing to Rennes.
Arriving in Rennes, no baggage—same as five other people.
The Air France office is closed, and the airport staff tell me there’s rarely anyone there.
With the help of the airport staff, I file a claim online, and my baggage is almost immediately located. As a result, I’m told I’ll have it the next day.
Four days later, the baggage is still in the same place at CDG—nothing’s moving.
The problem is Air France has no customer service. What they call customer service is a department that takes an hour to answer and just repeats what’s on the online form. No coordination, no way to get things moving. I guess Air France would rather pay the compensation after 21 days than actually do something.
I’ve had lost baggage on other trips, but this is the first time I’ve seen such indifference and lack of professionalism.
Hi,
Air Cairo offers good prices on domestic flights and schedules that work for us, but is this airline reliable?
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi,
I booked an Etihad ticket on their website for Dusseldorf-Abu Dhabi. In the first name field, I entered all my first names (something I never do and I regret it, but the site was confusing). Everything is spelled correctly, but the problem is that I just received my new passport and only my first two first names and the first letter of the third appear—there’s no trace of the last one.
I called Etihad, and of course, they tried to charge me $100 USD to remove that last first name. But I’m hesitant because usually, I only put my first first name and not the others, and I’ve never had an issue... So I’m wondering if having that extra first name, which isn’t on my passport, could get me denied at check-in.
Thanks for your feedback!
Hi everyone,
Next January, I’m heading to India.
My outbound flight is with Emirates from Paris to Dubai, then another Emirates flight from Dubai to Calcutta.
Could anyone tell me how the connection works? I’ve heard there’s a dedicated Emirates zone, but how does it actually work in practice—I’ve got a 2-hour layover.
Thanks so much!
Take care.
I’d like to fly to Malta from Lyon.
I’ve read a lot of negative reviews about KM MALTA, especially regarding baggage fees at the airport.
Of course, I don’t want to book through third parties (like SkyScanner, Opodo…).
AIR FRANCE offers tickets to MALTA in partnership, if I understood correctly.
On AIR FRANCE, the tickets include everything (checked baggage, cabin bag, small personal item, seat), whereas with KM MALTA, everything is extra and the final price is almost double!
In this case, is AIR FRANCE considered the same as sites like Opodo or others?
Given the price difference, I’m hesitant…
Have any of you booked with AIR FRANCE for this destination? How did it go?
Thanks,
HERVE
Hi everyone, I’ve unfortunately only just noticed that I booked two flight tickets, but I made a mistake on the second first name. Basically, my computer auto-filled and typed my first name twice, so both tickets are in my first name. Only the last names—mine and my friend’s—are correct.
TAP Portugal refuses to make the change because they consider it a change of passenger, even though it’s clearly a typo (plus, my last name isn’t common).
I’m leaving in 5 days, and buying a new ticket would cost 3 times the original price. Has anyone been in this situation before? I’d like to try negotiating at the airport, but it’s a gamble… Thanks in advance for any advice!
Since it came into force, Regulation 261/2004 of the European Parliament and Council, which defines air passenger rights, has faced fierce resistance from airlines, backed by IATA (the association representing almost all passenger airlines).
Beyond the airlines' often abusive—and even frequently bad-faith—resistance to passenger rights, IATA has been lobbying EU institutions for years, with the Council paying close attention for a long time.
As a result, the Council and the Commission have been proposing revisions to Regulation 261/2004 for years that are particularly unfavorable to passengers. The latest attempt nearly eliminated the right to compensation for delays of 3 hours or more upon arrival at the final destination.
However, since this is a regulation of both the European Parliament AND the Council, the two bodies had to agree.
But the European Parliament has always stood firm, consistently responding that passenger rights must be preserved.
After 11 years of struggle, it seems likely that we’re finally nearing the end of the match between the European Commission, the Council (the 27 heads of state or government), and the European Parliament.
Indeed, the Commission and the European Parliament have agreed on a text that will be debated again on Monday, July 6, 2026, with a vote scheduled for July 7, 2026. It’s very likely that this text, which would come into force in a year, will be adopted.
The main changes would be as follows:
- Families with children will no longer be forced to pay to sit together on planes;
- A flight will be considered canceled (not just delayed) if it departs more than one hour late;
- Right to compensation for arrival at the final destination if the delay exceeds 3 hours (no longer "3 hours OR more"). The arrival time will be when the plane, having reached its parking spot, engages its parking brakes (no longer when the aircraft door opens);
- Airlines can no longer refuse boarding or charge extra on the return flight for a passenger who didn’t take the outbound flight;
- If a flight is canceled, the airline must, at the same time as informing passengers of the event, offer the choice between a refund and re-routing, and inform them of their rights to assistance and, if applicable, compensation;
- The airline must, without undue delay, inform passengers of the reason;
- In the case of a connecting flight, if the connection is missed and the delay at the final destination entitles the passenger to compensation, the responsible airline will be liable. This is very different from the current situation, where, under the KLM ruling, any airline operating a segment of the flight is liable for compensation. This promises more disputes that the Court of Justice of the European Union will have to resolve if two separate airlines operating segments of a connecting flight are both responsible for the delay. See this case for an example: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2026/04/18/swiss-international-air-lines-la-mauvaise-foi/
Moreover, this case demonstrates in advance another potential dispute: It could be argued that it wasn’t a missed connection since the flight was canceled before the first leg even departed.
- Within 96 hours of a flight that could entitle passengers to compensation, the airline must contact them to inform them of their rights and explain the next steps.
- Passengers must claim their right to compensation within 9 months. This is very different from the current situation, as Regulation 261/2004 sets no time limit. Currently, national law applies—in France, the limit is 5 years. The airline must respond within 30 days. If the airline refuses compensation on the grounds of "extraordinary circumstances," it must specify which type of case it refers to from the list in the annex of the new regulation. If the case isn’t on the list, the airline must explain what the event was, why it qualifies as extraordinary circumstances with "clear, substantial, and concise" explanations, and why it’s directly linked to the reason given. It must also declare what "reasonable measures" were taken to mitigate the issue. This is, of course, a huge change in the regulation, with the clear goal of preventing airlines from declaring just anything as "extraordinary circumstances" to avoid compensation.
- If, within 3 hours of a last-minute canceled or delayed flight, the airline hasn’t offered re-routing under comparable transport conditions and as soon as possible—whether on one of its own flights or another airline’s—the passenger will have the right to arrange their own re-routing and demand a refund for the new ticket, up to 400% of the original ticket price. This is a significant improvement that would have likely prevented the case described here: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2024/01/12/reacheminement-catastrophique-droit-indemnisation-meme-circonstances-extraordinaires-2/
- If a flight is canceled due to "extraordinary circumstances," the airline will only be required to offer up to 3 nights in a hotel. This is a major change, as there’s currently no limit. Expect disputes if the extraordinary circumstances end while the passenger hasn’t been re-routed.
- The price of a flight, as first displayed, must obligatorily include a cabin bag. This doesn’t prevent the airline from offering a price reduction if the passenger waives the cabin bag. This will put an end to abnormal practices, such as (just one example) Condor charging extra for a cabin bag on long-haul flights like Frankfurt (Germany)–Puerto Plata (Dominican Republic)–Santo Domingo (Dominican Republic)–Frankfurt.
- Free correction of a passenger’s name if requested 48 hours before departure. Note: This can’t be used to replace one passenger with another—just to correct a typo, e.g., Dupont instead of Dpont.
- Airlines’ websites and apps must include information on how to file a claim.
It’s clear that, despite a few details, these changes are very positive for upholding passenger rights. It remains to be seen whether this text will be definitively adopted on July 7, 2026, as is very likely, and, more importantly, whether IATA will encourage airlines to loyally respect these new rules or persist in their old habits.
I’m planning a trip to Georgia this summer and I’ve been comparing some airlines. I’m not particularly set on flying with Pegasus (though it’s convenient with direct flights from Lyon to Tbilisi), but right off the bat, Pegasus states this:
As of January 1, 2026, all foreign nationals traveling to Georgia for tourism purposes will be required to present valid travel health insurance. Guests who fail to provide the relevant health insurance will not be accepted on our flights to Georgia.
Sincerely,
Pegasus Airlines
In other words, if you don’t show proof of travel health insurance, you’ll be denied boarding.
Personally, my credit card insurance has always been enough for me, and I’d rather not take out extra coverage...
Have any of you run into this issue before? If not, what do you think? Why is Pegasus asking for this proof? Other airlines don’t mention it at all.
I bought my flight ticket with my first (usual) first name, which appears first on my passport. However, I have two first names on my passport, and of course, it’s mentioned in the machine-readable zone at the bottom.
I booked with Turkish Airlines (through an online agency) for a trip to South Korea.
I wanted to know if it would be a problem that I only used my first first name on the ticket, while my passport has two. I had requested through the agency to add the second first name, but the airline refused because it doesn’t meet their general conditions. (They must have seen that the last name and first name were the same, and only the second first name was added.)
So, my ticket has my last name and first first name correctly spelled, and when I check in online, I’ll enter the passport details correctly.
I’ll have a layover in Istanbul on the flight.
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Have a great day.
Hi there,
I traveled in June 2025 with Nouvelair Destinations to Hammamet.
I had one checked bag and one carry-on sized 40x24x30, which I usually take on low-cost flights, and I didn’t have any issues. But I just read on a website that Nouvel Air only accepts carry-ons of 40x20x15. I’m flying back to Djerba in June—what do you think? Especially since that size is impossible to find??????? Thanks
Hi, it's my first time taking a plane and I chose EasyJet for a Geneva -> Barcelona flight.
I booked my ticket.
I received my booking reference by email, but I don’t see the actual ticket (barcode or QR code?).
Then I checked in to get the boarding pass with the flight details, QR code, etc. But does this boarding pass act as the ticket?
Because I’ve seen several times online that the flight ticket and the boarding pass aren’t the same thing.
We're leaving for Albania on June 18th. When I validated the flight tickets with Wizz Air on Booking, I only put my son's first name but forgot to include his other three first names on the ticket.
On the passport: SURNAME: Dupont, FIRST NAMES: toto titi tutu tata
On the flight ticket: SURNAME: Dupont, FIRST NAME: toto
I can't seem to reach anyone at Wizz Air to get an answer.
Booking and Wizz Air's chat say I need to modify it, but ChatGPT says it should be fine.
I wanted to know if he can fly like this or if I need to change his ticket?
(It costs 140 €, I know I shouldn't have made a mistake🙁)
Basically, all airlines have been blacklisted because they don’t meet European safety standards. They’re banned from flying in Europe but continue operating in Tanzania.
The main issue is that travel agencies’ civil liability no longer applies to blacklisted airlines.
So we can’t allow clients to fly with these carriers.
Of course, there’s huge pressure from European agencies, which are forced to disrupt their plans or even cancel trips because of this.
Personally, I’ve got a trip planned for February 2026 to the southern parks in Tanzania, so I’ll be keeping an eye on how this develops.
Do any of you have updates?
Thanks!
Right now, with the war raging in Iran and affecting all the neighboring countries of the Persian Gulf, many airports are completely closed to all traffic.
Several airlines like Qatar Airways, Emirates, and others have almost completely halted their operations.
Whether in the Middle East or Africa, many travelers are stranded—maybe for a long time... A heartfelt thought for them and the struggles this will cause.
Four months ago, I was in Kenya with a flight booked through Qatar Airways... I can’t even imagine how I’d react if I were stuck there now. ??
Wishing all these travelers courage, patience, and success in making it back home.
Hello, some (potentially) good news for Brazil lovers—GOL airline is launching a route to Europe from Rio, starting in September for Lisbon, then Paris at a later date that hasn’t been announced yet.
They’ll be using their new A330-900 neo.
No prices have been announced so far, but hopefully we’ll find direct flights from GIG at a more interesting fare than AF or Latam…
I’m really surprised because in TUI’s new tour packages, the airlines they’re using are of low quality. Before, they used to prioritize major airlines, but now it’s small airlines from small countries—companies with terrible ratings and borderline safety concerns. I even just noticed this note for a Tanzania trip: "We inform you that the domestic flight segment in Tanzania included in your trip is operated by an airline listed on the European Union’s list of air carriers subject to an operating ban within the European Union. This ban only applies to European Union airspace, meaning this airline is not permitted to take off, land, or fly over European airspace. However, this airline is authorized to operate in Tanzania."
This means they’re using airlines on the blacklist!! It’s pretty worrying for safety. What do you all think?
We’re planning a cruise to the UAE/QATAR/OMAN starting from DUBAI, with flights departing from Paris CDG.
Which airlines would you recommend for round-trip flights, with or without a layover?
We need assistance for check-in and boarding/disembarking (my husband is a mobility-impaired traveler who uses a cane and/or a walker).
We’ve done a cruise return from Dubai to Paris CDG before in 2016, with a layover in Istanbul, but we booked the transfer and return flight with COSTA.
For our current plan, it would be with Celestyal, which doesn’t offer round-trip flights from Paris to Dubai.
Should we book very far in advance, or is a few months before departure enough (4/6 months)?
We’re thinking of arriving the day before the ship departs, so we’d need to stay overnight in Dubai—either on the way there or for the return flight, depending on the flight schedules. Could you recommend a hotel not too far from the airport, and how to get to the port from the airport?
Thanks so much for your advice. Have a great Sunday! Mum49
Hi,
It's all in the title—this means nothing's getting through, so no more oil.
In Europe, kerosene reserves are still good, but by the end of April, flights will have to be reduced.
European airports fear running out of kerosene if the Strait of Hormuz isn’t reopened within three weeks
I’m reaching out to ask for your help with a bit of a problem:
I booked a flight to Berlin from Orly for April 15th—it’s coming up fast. But I just made an annoying discovery: my passport expired two weeks ago.
From what I understand, in principle, I can still travel within the Schengen Zone with an expired passport as long as it’s been less than five years. However, EasyJet’s website explicitly requires a valid ID (and just to add to the fun, my national ID card has been expired for a while now).
So, I’d love to know: how strict are EasyJet’s ID checks? Do they enforce validity rules strictly and refuse boarding if the ID isn’t valid? Or is it more of a luck-of-the-draw situation?
Basically, should I just write off this trip now, or should I still try my luck—maybe with a little tearful plea? Has anyone here had a similar experience? I can’t be the only one, right!
I booked a flight with RyanAir for next month, with the priority+ option and two cabin bags. So I can take a 10 kg bag with dimensions 55x40x20 in the cabin (plus another smaller one).
The problem is that the smallest suitcase I have (which is supposed to be designed specifically for cabin size standards, according to the manual) has the following dimensions: 55x37x21, so it's just 1 cm over (wheels included) on one of the measurements.
I wasn’t too worried at first, but I’ve read dozens of stories about people’s misadventures and the hassles they’ve had with RyanAir.
Since I don’t want my suitcase to end up in the hold (that would waste time picking it up when I’m already arriving late and need to get to the city center), nor do I want to pay an extra fee (apparently 50 €) for the outbound and return flights for just 1 centimeter—especially since I paid for the "priority+" option and I’m not exactly rolling in money—I’d love some advice.
Have any of you been in the same situation? I’ve read that with this airline, they check bags in templates (testing them in different positions) and are completely uncompromising. I tried contacting customer service, who, as luck would have it, "don’t handle this kind of request," and a rep I spoke to wasn’t much help.
I know it’s a low-cost airline, and I don’t expect luxury or even kindness, but come on—just 1 cm on a short flight with the + option... I’m a bit overwhelmed by everything I’ve read...
Just to clarify, since I’m going for 8 days, I can’t just take one bag for my stuff. I’ve done that for shorter trips before, and it was a hassle—I even had to buy an extra bag for the return trip... Luckily, the inspector was nice about it!
Thanks so much!
I’m a newbie when it comes to air travel :) Hope I posted this in the right section!
When I run searches on Skyscanner, I see that only Lufthansa has flights to Seoul with just one stop. Air France doesn’t show up, even though I thought the French airline served Seoul?
I can’t even log into the Air France website—it keeps glitching.
Hi there,
I’d like to return to Uzbekistan next April for 10 days with my husband to visit our son who lives there. We went last July and I bought the flight tickets (direct flight from Paris on Uzbekistan Airways) about 2 months in advance at very reasonable prices. I’ve been checking for late April for a few weeks now, and the tickets are much more expensive and keep rising. I can’t figure out if the prices are going up because it’s still a bit too early to buy and they’ll likely drop if the planes aren’t full, or if it’s because the period is actually in high demand. For reference, last year I bought my son’s ticket on May 30th for a departure on June 3rd—just 3 days later—at a very low price that didn’t budge at all.
Just in case, does anyone know the pricing trends for this airline and can advise me? Should I wait or not?
Thanks, and feel free to ask if you need any tips about the country!
My wife bought a flight ticket (Lucky Air) under her Thai maiden name and was issued a Chinese visa on her new Thai passport but with her French married name (due to administrative requirements). She was denied boarding by the airline in Bangkok for the flight to Kunming—resulting in the loss of our round-trip flight tickets, including mine since we were traveling together—despite presenting both passports at the airline counter at the same time.
Hi there.
I’m planning a trip to Chile, and the fares from the Colombian airline Avianca are really appealing.
Way cheaper than Air France, for example.
That said, the reviews I’ve seen online aren’t great.
What do you think of this airline?
Have any of you taken long-haul flights with Avianca?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Eric