Randonner dans le Nord-Ouest argentin
by Mlefevre
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour à tous!
Nous allons dans le NOA en juillet et aimerions y faire des randonnées.
Malheureusement j'ai beaucoup de mal à trouver des infos: sur internet je tombe à chaque fois sur des tours organisés, ce que nous voulons éviter car nous aurons notre véhicule.
Existe-t-il un site non commercial voire un bouquin qui pourraient m'aider à cibler les coins où nous pourrons nous balader?
Est-il facile de trouver sur place des cartes un peu détaillées?
Merci pour votre aide!
Marie
Nos voyages en images : https://www.sibellelaterre.fr/
Bonjour chère randonneuse,
Je ne connais pas encore l'Argentine mais j'y vais cet été (mais au sud), simplement j'ai randonné l'été dernier au Chili et celui d'avant au Pérou et en Bolivie, tout ça pour te dire que les guides que nous avons utlilisés (et qui nous ont bien servis) étaient Le guide du routard et le Lonely planet. Ils sont assez compémentaires mais je te conseille de te méfier du routard qui peut être pas mal pour les pays d'Europe et plutôt incomplet voire incompétent pour les autres pays (et non remis à jour ce qui peut poser de GROS problèmes sur place). Donc si tu n'en veux qu'un le Lonely me parait le meilleur et il existe des versions traduites en français si tu le désires.
En ce qui concerne les cartes (surtout les versions détaillées pour les randos) d'après mon expérience chilienne ce n'est pas la peine d'en chercher sur place. Pour le chili nous étions allés à l'ambassade qui nous avait fournit une carte, je ne sais pas si pour l'Argentine il en est de même mais à mon avis il faut que tu te les procures avant de partir.
Bon séjour et à l'occasion si tu fais un "carnet de voyage" à ton retour je serais bien intéressée car j'aime beaucoup randonner en amérique du sud.
(rouge)Lucei(/rouge)
Bonjour Lucie!
En fait, j'ai déjà le LP mais il n'y a pas grand chose concernant la randonnée. Il faut dire que le pays est gigantesque pour un seul bouquin. Il me semble qu'il y a + d'infos sur le Sud ...
Je ferai certainement un carnet de voyage comme je le fais maintenant depuis qq années que j'ai découvert VF.
Comptes-tu toi aussi en faire un pour le sud?
Ca pourrait m'inspirer pour + tard!
A+
Marie
Nos voyages en images : https://www.sibellelaterre.fr/
Marie,
Pour l'instant notre voyage est en préparation (comme le tien) mais je pense effectivement au moins réunir les photos que nous aurons prises sur une page web et je pourrai à ce moment là te communiquer l'adresse. En ce qui concerne ton voyage, je peux essayer de me renseigner auprès des argentins que nous avons rencontrés au Chili mais je ne te garantis pas une réponse rapide.
Lucei
(rouge)Lucei(/rouge)
Si tu as le temps de contacter ces argentins, je suis preneuse de toute info.
Nous ne partons que fin juin, c'est qd même dans 6 mois!
Pourquoi ne pas mettre ton carnet de voyage sur VF : tu peux pondre un petit texte agrémenté de photos, ainsi tout le monde y a facilement accès...
Si tu veux, jette un oeil aux miens en passant par mon profil...
A+
Marie
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Salut!
Je reviens d'Argentine où j'ai parcouru le Nord-Ouest ( Salta et Tucuman) et Bsas bien sûr!
Mais bon pour ma part j'ai fait un trek à Cafayate dans la province de Salta. C'était génial. Pour la journée on a prit un guide, ce que je te conseil de faire également. Tu peux te rendre en voiture c'est à 6 km du village. Une fois sur place demande pour les camping. celui un peu éloigné du village est le point de départ.
C'est magnifique, tu longe une rivière avec des cascades et des chutes. Tu u peux te baigner dedans, ce qui est très interessant car il fait très chaud.
Envoi moi un mail privé j'ai des tonnes de photos sur cet endroit à ne pas manquer. reposado_8@hotmail.com
Adios
Patrice
Je reviens d'Argentine où j'ai parcouru le Nord-Ouest ( Salta et Tucuman) et Bsas bien sûr!
Mais bon pour ma part j'ai fait un trek à Cafayate dans la province de Salta. C'était génial. Pour la journée on a prit un guide, ce que je te conseil de faire également. Tu peux te rendre en voiture c'est à 6 km du village. Une fois sur place demande pour les camping. celui un peu éloigné du village est le point de départ.
C'est magnifique, tu longe une rivière avec des cascades et des chutes. Tu u peux te baigner dedans, ce qui est très interessant car il fait très chaud.
Envoi moi un mail privé j'ai des tonnes de photos sur cet endroit à ne pas manquer. reposado_8@hotmail.com
Adios
Patrice
ONE LIFE TO LIVE,
Salut Patrice.
Est-ce que ce ne sont pas les 4 cascades du Rio Colorado à l'ouest de Cafayatte?
Il fait assez chaud en juillet pour s'y baigner?
A+
Marie
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euh oui, je crois bien que c'est le nom...
Se baigner en juillet, je ne crois pas! Je suis allé en Janivier et l'eau était très très froide... mais bon, dans cette région il fait chaud toute l'année,
Se baigner en juillet, je ne crois pas! Je suis allé en Janivier et l'eau était très très froide... mais bon, dans cette région il fait chaud toute l'année,
ONE LIFE TO LIVE,
On trempera qd même un orteil ou deux, c'est tjs agréable!
Te rappelles-tu la durée de la balade. Etiez-vous allés à plusieurs cascades?
A+
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Nos voyages en images : https://www.sibellelaterre.fr/
Salut!
Euh en fait la ballade dure environ 4-5 heures, tout dépendant de ta vitesse, tu dois être en frome car il faut sauter, grimper des parois rocheuses, etc.. c'est un vrai terrain de jeu! J'ai adoré.
Nous somes allé à trois chutes, une d'environ 10 mètres, Petit coin de paradis. Par contre il n'y avait pas de perroquets et d'arc-en-ciel comme dans les films...dommage,
Mais bon je te le conseille vraiment, c'est relax et les paysages d'en haut sont superbes. Et c'est gratuit! Sauf si tu prend un guide là c'est contribution volontaire,
Donc Amuse-toi!
Patrice
Euh en fait la ballade dure environ 4-5 heures, tout dépendant de ta vitesse, tu dois être en frome car il faut sauter, grimper des parois rocheuses, etc.. c'est un vrai terrain de jeu! J'ai adoré.
Nous somes allé à trois chutes, une d'environ 10 mètres, Petit coin de paradis. Par contre il n'y avait pas de perroquets et d'arc-en-ciel comme dans les films...dommage,
Mais bon je te le conseille vraiment, c'est relax et les paysages d'en haut sont superbes. Et c'est gratuit! Sauf si tu prend un guide là c'est contribution volontaire,
Donc Amuse-toi!
Patrice
ONE LIFE TO LIVE,
salut a tous
je suis en train de suivre avec attention cette discution, car je prepare notre periple pour cet ete, nous arrivons fin juillet a Rio et descendons doucettement vers la region de salta en passant par Curitiba/foz et region de missiones
je serais interessée par les randos dans la region de cafayate, salta, humahuaca...
Nous sommes des touristes un "peu sauvage" ne prenons jamais de "tour", ni ne louons de voiture.Nous ne sommes pas pressés puisqu'en vacances... et donc nous irons d'une ville, d'un village à l'autre en bus et transports locaux.
Dans le forum, je ne lis que; location de voiture, 4X4 et Tours..N'y a -il personne qui n'est pas passé par là??
Peux tu détaillés un peu la rando dont tu parles dans les cascades..nous sommes randonneurs et grimpeurs merci a+
Peux tu détaillés un peu la rando dont tu parles dans les cascades..nous sommes randonneurs et grimpeurs merci a+
mag
http://sudam.canalblog.com (nos voyages en amerique du sud)
http://egyptenliberte.canalblog.com
Impressionnants tes carnets de voyages pour les détails que tu donnes et la qualité des photos! Je t'avoue que pour l'instant je me suis toujours contentée des photos de mes voyages mais je vais m'y mettre...
Je vais donc contacter les argentins au sujet des cartes et des guides et je te tiens informée...
Merci pour ses belles images, je crois que je vais rêver des dolomites cette nuit...
Lucei
(rouge)Lucei(/rouge)
Merci pour les compliments Lucie... et bonne nuit!
Marie
Nos voyages en images : https://www.sibellelaterre.fr/
Bon, je me réponds à moi-même car la réponse peut intéresser certains. J'ai trouvé ce site qui est une mine d'informations.
On y trouve entre autres la fameuse balade des cascades dont on parle plus haut.
http://www.camdipsalta.gov.ar/latitudcero/
et aussi celui-là : http://viajeros.freeservers.com/ qui est encore plus sensass.
Bonne lecture. Marie
et aussi celui-là : http://viajeros.freeservers.com/ qui est encore plus sensass.
Bonne lecture. Marie
Nos voyages en images : https://www.sibellelaterre.fr/
salut aux randonneurs du NOA
sur le lien deja donné par marie, des cartes et renseignements pour les cascades Quilmes et autres randos... http://www.camdipsalta.gov.ar/latitudcero/2005/quilpir/guia_travesia.htm
il y a meme les pts GPS
sur le lien deja donné par marie, des cartes et renseignements pour les cascades Quilmes et autres randos... http://www.camdipsalta.gov.ar/latitudcero/2005/quilpir/guia_travesia.htm
il y a meme les pts GPS
mag
http://sudam.canalblog.com (nos voyages en amerique du sud)
http://egyptenliberte.canalblog.com
Le guide de trekking Bradt inclut un ou 2 treks au NO argentin, je crois.
Sinon, je te conseille Iruya.
A Cachi, il est possible de se diriger vers la montagne de 6000 m la, peut etre meme d'atteindre le sommet (mais je ne suis alle que jusque 4200 m env). Le manque d'eau est peut etre un probleme (comme dans toute la region).
6000m, hum! Nous ne ferons que des treks à la journée, pas de l'alpinisme, 4200 m devraient nous suffire également.
Mais je ne vois pas bien de quelle montagne tu parles. Peux-tu me dire son nom? Ce ne serait pas celle qui se trouve derrière (sur les photos vues sur le net, je pense que ça doit être à l'ouest) Las Pailas, le site archéologique tout proche de Cachi?
Le guide Bradt est-il consacré à toute la cordillière? Ca pourrait être un bon investissement pour des futurs voyages. Quel est le titre de ce bouquin? Quid du contenu? Y'a des cartes?
Merci Willemspie pour ton aide. A+ Marie
Le guide Bradt est-il consacré à toute la cordillière? Ca pourrait être un bon investissement pour des futurs voyages. Quel est le titre de ce bouquin? Quid du contenu? Y'a des cartes?
Merci Willemspie pour ton aide. A+ Marie
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La montagne s'appelle le Nevado de Cachi, je crois, mais je n'ai pas ma doc ici. EtT cela date d'il y a 4 ans. Je crois en effet que je suis pari de Las Pailas. Il y avait un bus a 7 h du matin, ca je me souviens.
Le guide Bradt est 'Trekking in Chile and Argentina'.
J ai voulu en janvier dernier faire une rando en autonomie dans la région de Salta et pour cela je suis allé parler avec differentes agences pour recuperer des infos. Ce qui m a paru le plus interessant est une traversée entre San Francisco et Tilcara (environ 7 jours), j avais meme reussi a recuperer une photocopie de carte sommaire mais trop de pluie je n ai pas pu partir !
Olivier
Salut Olivier!
Je ne vois pas de quel San Francisco tu parles. Peut-être est-ce le rio San Francisco qui coule à l'est de Tilcara dans le coin du PN Calilegua?
Dans le guide Bradt dont a parlé Willemspie, il y a en effet un trek de 4 jours qui part de Valle Grande et va vers l'ouest jusqu'à Tilcara.
Malheureusement on n'aura pas le temps ni le matos pour faire un trek de plusieurs jours. On se contentera de balades à la journée.
A+
Marie
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C'est vrai que trouver des informations n'est pas facile.
J'ai la chance d'habiter sur place et donc d'avoir du temps pour explorer un peu la région.
Pour ceux que ça intéresse, j'ai fait un blog avec des itinéraires de randonnée autour de Salta http://stanvadrouille.over-blog.org/categorie-11590636.html
Je le met à jour au fur à mesure de mes sorties. Actuellement, avec les pluies d'été, ce n'est pas l'idéal pour aller marcher.
J'ai la chance d'habiter sur place et donc d'avoir du temps pour explorer un peu la région.
Pour ceux que ça intéresse, j'ai fait un blog avec des itinéraires de randonnée autour de Salta http://stanvadrouille.over-blog.org/categorie-11590636.html
Je le met à jour au fur à mesure de mes sorties. Actuellement, avec les pluies d'été, ce n'est pas l'idéal pour aller marcher.
Un an en Argentine, dans la région de Salta ! Et des randonnées en France.
http://stanvadrouille.over-blog.org
Très sympa ce blog.
Hoplà dans mes favoris!
Merci!
Marie
Nos voyages en images : https://www.sibellelaterre.fr/
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Hi everyone!
New to this forum, I’m planning a pretty big project for 2028. I’m heading to Nepal to do a trek from Kathmandu all the way to Everest Base Camp (a cool 5,300 m 😄). This trek is a bit special because even though I’ll be part of a group, I’m going solo (so far, no problem—I’m used to it). But it’s my first real trek, and it’s also a humanitarian one: once I reach base camp, I’ll stay an extra week to help clean up the waste left by tens of thousands of climbers! Since I’m originally from South America, from two countries that share the Andes, I have a deep respect for mountains—they fascinate me. So Everest… it’s kind of the trip of a lifetime!
So, a little question for those who’ve done treks to Everest before… any tips for good mental preparation (I’m already working on the physical side)?
Thanks in advance for your advice! 🙂
New to this forum, I’m planning a pretty big project for 2028. I’m heading to Nepal to do a trek from Kathmandu all the way to Everest Base Camp (a cool 5,300 m 😄). This trek is a bit special because even though I’ll be part of a group, I’m going solo (so far, no problem—I’m used to it). But it’s my first real trek, and it’s also a humanitarian one: once I reach base camp, I’ll stay an extra week to help clean up the waste left by tens of thousands of climbers! Since I’m originally from South America, from two countries that share the Andes, I have a deep respect for mountains—they fascinate me. So Everest… it’s kind of the trip of a lifetime!
So, a little question for those who’ve done treks to Everest before… any tips for good mental preparation (I’m already working on the physical side)?
Thanks in advance for your advice! 🙂
Hi there, I’m planning the Annapurna Circuit for March 2027 and I’m looking for a local agency with a local guide—preferably French-speaking—to arrange this trek for us. Any suggestions? Thanks
Hello!
We’re spending a few days in Toraja country at the end of May. We’d love to do a day trek—taking our time—on a route that’s stunning in terms of scenery, but not a level 5 in difficulty!
Any suggestions you can share, please?
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’m traveling solo by plane to Catania in May and plan to hike the northern side of Etna, starting from Linguaglossa where I’ll arrive by bus. After that, I’d love some info on how to get up to Piano Provenzana (shuttles or hitchhiking), since it seems there’s no public transport except in the summer. Can you sleep there in a free or cheap refuge, or camp? And how far up can you go without having to hire a guide? Thanks in advance. Bernard.
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Morocco in August and we’ll start with a stop in Chefchaouen (we’re driving).
My question: can anyone suggest a 5-to-7-day loop hiking route from Chefchaouen in Talassemtane Park, ideally passing by the God’s Bridge? Or a paper guidebook that covers a few options?
We prefer wild camping and guesthouses.
Thanks in advance
Hi there, for those who’ve been recently—is it possible to find other solo travelers in March on the island to share transport or room costs? It doesn’t seem easy to travel on a budget.
If you have any recommendations for simple lodgings or places with dorms, I’d love to hear them.
For those who’ve done multi-day treks while moving around: do you need to bring your own sleeping bag? I’d love to hear about itineraries you’ve done without a guide, just with a map and GPS.
Thanks, and have a great day!
Hi everyone!
We’re planning a 15-day road trip to Scotland this summer, specifically to explore and hike on Lewis and Harris—places we’ve never been before. We’ve visited other islands on previous road trips in Scotland (we usually go in April for a week). This would be our first time in Scotland in the summer and for 15 days. We’re looking at late August to early September.
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
Hi there, I’m trying to leave for 15 days very soon to São Vicente. I’m either looking to join an agency or figure things out on my own to go hiking on one of these islands or both. From what I’ve seen, it’s not easy to organize with local transport, so it gets expensive. Can I use the services of a small local agency? I’m looking for the simplest way to hike for several days. Also, how do you get from São Vicente to São Nicolau? Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Aichatou
Hi there,
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
hi
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
Hello,
I’ll be in Nepal from March 6th to 29th (we’re flying into Kathmandu via Varanasi and leaving via Delhi).
I’m a bit confused about the regulations requiring a guide.
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips. Here are my questions: - Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages) - I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share! Yann
My wife and I (we’re 63 and 64) aren’t experienced trekkers—we’re more used to walking on terrain with very moderate elevation changes. I’m looking for fairly easy hikes, possibly day trips. Here are my questions: - Does the Poon Hill trek from Pokhara require a guide, or is it better to go through a local agency? (I’ve seen a lot of them offering 4-day packages) - I’d like to do a few multi-day hikes around Jomsom (Kagbeni, Mukitinath, Lupra, Marpha)... Do you need a guide for those, and can you find accommodations easily without booking in advance?
Last question—I’m really hesitant to lug around a sleeping bag or down jacket during our 6 weeks in India. Can you easily find these kinds of items at reasonable prices in Pokhara?
Thanks in advance for any tips you can share! Yann
Hello.
I’m a 56-year-old man who’s done several treks in Nepal and elsewhere. Also passionate about photography. I’m looking for one or more people to form a group for a trek in Nepal. The trek is the Annapurna and Manaslu circuit (24 days), including a stop at Tilicho Lake. I’ve got a great itinerary and the local company seems solid. The price is around $1600. I’ll be in Nepal from April 5 to May 12, 2026, so the trek would need to happen within those dates.
Daniel, Québec, Canada
I’m a 56-year-old man who’s done several treks in Nepal and elsewhere. Also passionate about photography. I’m looking for one or more people to form a group for a trek in Nepal. The trek is the Annapurna and Manaslu circuit (24 days), including a stop at Tilicho Lake. I’ve got a great itinerary and the local company seems solid. The price is around $1600. I’ll be in Nepal from April 5 to May 12, 2026, so the trek would need to happen within those dates.
Daniel, Québec, Canada




