Nous partons à 3 le 22 octobre pour Pékin. Nous resterons sur place 9 jours pleins. Nous serons logées chez des amis qui vivent là-bas.
Nous souhaiterions partir 3 jours (éventuellement 4) hors de Pékin.
Nous hésitons entre deux options qui ne nous demanderaient pas le même nombre de jours : ou une visite à Chengde ou une visite à Xian.
A chaque fois nous pensons prendre le train.
C'est notre premier voyage en Chine pour toutes les trois. Que nous conseilleriez-vous : Chengde ou Xian ?
Et si nous allons à Xian, vaut-il mieux y aller directement ou faire un arrêt à Pingyao ?
Autre question. Une amie nous a donné des coordonnées de guides francophones à Pékin et à Xian. Auriez-vous une idée du montant de leur rémunération pour une journée ?
Je terminerai en disant que nous avons fait l'expérience hier du centre de Paris qui s'occupe de la délivrance des visas. Un conseil : prenez rendez-vous sur internet ! Nous l'avions fait et en 8 minutes, montre en main, nous étions passé par l'accueil, avions déposé nos dossiers et étions ressorties. Une dame, juste avant nous s'est présentée sans rendez-vous et la dame de l'accueil lui a dit qu'il y avait 50 personnes devant elle soit environ deux heures d'attente ....
Je pense que ce sera Pingyao car Huashan sera un peu trop sportif pour l'une d'entre nous ;-)
Il y a quand même une chose que j'aimerais comprendre. Si l'on en croit le g du R le voyage de Pékin à Pingyao se fait en train en une dizaine d'heures, celui de Pingyao à Xian en une dizaine d'heures et celui de Xian à Pékin en 13h environ. Pingyao étant à peu près entre Pékin et Xian .... Quoi qu'il en soit, le train de nuit et la couchette molle semblent s'imposer.
Il y a quand même une chose que j'aimerais comprendre. Si l'on en croit le g du R le voyage de Pékin à Pingyao se fait en train en une dizaine d'heures, celui de Pingyao à Xian en une dizaine d'heures et celui de Xian à Pékin en 13h environ. Pingyao étant à peu près entre Pékin et Xian .... Quoi qu'il en soit, le train de nuit et la couchette molle semblent s'imposer.
ca surprend mais c'est comme ca car ce n'est pas le meme train. Je conseille les couchettes molles qui sont pus confortables.
Sinon, peut-etre le mieux selon moi, c'est de prendre le train rapide entre pekin et taiyuan (~3h30) et ensuite relier pingyao par bus ou taxi en s'arretant a mi-chemin pour visiter la maison de la famille Qiao. La distance entre taiyuan et pingyao est de 90km
"Nous souhaiterions partir 3 jours (éventuellement 4) hors de Pékin. "
3 ou 4 jours en dehors de Pékin ça risque d être juste pour aller à Xian (encore plus en passant par Pingyao) non?
Peut être un AR Datong( 2Jours) plus un AR Chengde(2jours) serait une bonne idée ?
il vous reste 4 jours pour Pékin et un jour pour la grande muraille...
mais les distances ne sont pas tout à fait les mêmes et le temps passé en transport est quand mm assez important : Grosse différence dont je tiendrais compte sur un séjour aussi court ... De plus je trouve plus intéressant les grottes de Datong et les temples de Chengde que Pingyao et les terracottas ( qui déçoivent souvent...)Mais bon ça chacun son truc ...🙂
et puis on peut faire aussi le voyage de nuit .....
Je ne connais pas Chengde, mais j'ai beaucoup aimé Xi'an, même si j'y suis malheureusement restée trop peu de temps.
En 3 ou 4 jours, tu pourras bien profiter de la ville.
Pour info, voici ce que j'y ai fait en 2 jours:
Jour 6 (vendredi 11 septembre)
Matinée tranquille, thé de bienvenue et p’tit dej à l’hôtel.
On part en fin de matinée pour visiter l’Armée de Terre Cuite ! Depuis l’hôtel, bus 611 jusqu’à la gare routière (0.5 yuan), puis 306 (7 yuans) jusqu’au terminus (environ 1h30 en tout). Entrée du site : 90 yuans
Je voulais les voir par moi-même, et franchement je n’ai pas été déçue. Dans le premier hall, accueilli par les marionnettes géantes qui ont eu un rôle lors de la cérémonie d’ouverture des JO de 2008, on découvre des chariots de bronze, très bien conservés, très beaux, ainsi que d’autres objets et de très belles statues de terre cuite, que nous pouvons voir de près, elles sont vraiment belles. Dans le deuxième hall, on découvre une reconstitution du lieu tel qu’il était quand il a été découvert, avec les soldats cassés. Et enfin, clou du spectacle, nous entrons dans le 3eme hall, immense hangar, pour voir les centaines de statues, toutes alignées, soldats, chevaux, généraux… C’est impressionnant ! Impressionnant d’en voir autant, de les voir en vrai, impressionnant de savoir qu’elles datent de plus de 2000 ans, impressionnant d’imaginer le travail pour les remettre d’aplomb, impressionnant quand on sait qu’il y en a encore plus toujours enterrés…
Pour finir la visite, nous pouvons voir un film sur 360 degrés retraçant l’histoire de la région à travers l’histoire de l’armée de terre cuite, très intéressant.
De retour à Xi’an en fin de journée, nous passons la soirée dans le Quartier Musulman. Super ambiance, des échoppes, des cuisines de rues, des petites cantines, des odeurs d’épices, de nouilles chaudes, de viandes, de fruits confits… On s’en met plein les yeux aussi, toutes ces lumières, ces couleurs, cette animation… Tous nos sens sont en éveils ! Un vrai plaisir !
Nous visitons également la Tour du Tambour, de nuit. Très beau musée à l’intérieur, très belle vue sur la place et sur la Tour de la Cloche, spectacle de tambour également. J’ai même frappé un gros tambour !
Jour 7 (samedi 12 septembre)
Matinée à la Pagode de la Grande Oie Sauvage. Nous y allons en bus (bus 610, 1.5 yuans). Dommage que le temps ne soit pas formidable, petit crachin breton… Mais le lieu est très calme, très agréable. Nous montons tout en haut, pour découvrir la vue sur Xi’an depuis le sommet tout en admirant la calligraphie exposée dans la Pagode.
Déjeuner de raviolis au Defachang, face à la Tour de la Cloche (au nord ouest de la place). Nous arrivons trop tard pour le buffet qui est fermé au 1er étage, mais nous nous régalons au rdc de raviolis bouillis ou à la vapeur. Ambiance cantine très sympa, les serveurs passent avec des gros chariots pour nous apporter ce qu’on a commandé au comptoir, ou des accompagnements (champignons, brochettes…).
Nous passons l’après-midi dans le Quartier Musulman, pour le voir de jour également. Toujours cette même ambiance que j’aime tant !
Nous visitons la Grande Mosquée (25 yuans). Etonnante quand on est habitué aux mosquées d’Egypte ou de Turquie, ici les bâtiments sont très « chinois » ! Les jardins sont très zen, vraiment reposants, un havre de calme en plein cœur de ce quartier très animé. Intéressant aussi de voir sur les mêmes panneaux de bois de la calligraphie arabe et chinoise.
Nous terminons notre séjour à Xi’an par la visite d’une maison traditionnelle. Nous prenons la « formule » visite + dégustation de thé + spectacle d’ombres chinoise. La maison en elle-même est très intéressante à visiter, avec ses pièces séparées par des jardins, ses hautes marches pour empêcher les démons accrochés aux semelles d’entrer dans les pièces en même temps que nous. Nous nous régalons lors de la dégustation de thé (thé vert, thé oolong au gingseng, thé noir au litchi, thé au jasmin…), avec beaucoup d’explications sur les différents thés, quand jeter la première eau, quels sont les effets de chaque thé pour la santé. Et du coup, forcément, nous en achetons pour nous ! Le spectacle d’ombres chinoises, racontant le Voyage Vers l’Ouest, est vraiment excellent ! Raconté en chinois, mais on connait l’histoire, donc ce n’est pas grave. Un petit côté guignol, vraiment un bon moment de détente !
Diner au Ajisen Ramen, qui a, contrairement aux autres restaurants de la chaîne que nous avons testé, une carte de sushi et sashimi, vraiment délicieux ! Poisson très fondant, très bon !
(extrait de mon carnet de voyage : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2931670;#2931670)
merci à tous pour vos réponses et merci pour la suggestion de programme à Xian.
Effectivement, j'étais en train de me faire la réflexion que le mieux, pour ne pas perdre de temps était de voyager de nuit. Pour Chengde, il existe un train rapide qui part tôt le matin de Pékin et permet de revenir le lendemain après-midi. Mais il semble qu'il mette 4h, alors pour un train rapide ..........
L'idéal semble être de prendre le train de nuit pour Pingyao, de visiter la ville (1 ou 2 jours ?) de reprendre le train de nuit pour Xian et d'y rester deux journées pour reprendre enfin le train de nuit pour Pékin.
prend le train de nuit pour pingyao, tu dors une nuit qui te permettra de visiter la ville et les alentours et ensuite de prendre le train de nuit pour xian en dormant 1 nuit aussi sur place.
le train pour chengde te fait perdre quasiment la journée en AR.
J'ai trouvé Chengde un peu décevant, et franchement pas "rentable" (en rapport intérêt / temps passé) si on doit consacrer 1/2 journée dans le train à l'aller et au retour, à l'intérieur d'un séjour de durée limitée en Chine.
Par rapport à Pingyao et/ou Xi'an, il n'y a pas photo pour moi.
C'est d'accord, je pense que nous allons adopter la formule train de nuit, 1 nuit à Pingyao, train de nuit, 1 nuit à Xian et retour en train de nuit à Pékin.
Maintenant, guide ou pas guide ?
Cela doit être plus rassurant d'avoir quelqu'un qui parle la langue mais je suppose qu'avec le langage des mains on arrive à se faire comprendre 😛
Me conseillez-vous de prendre les billets de train depuis la France ou bien là-bas, une fois sur place ?
Il y a une agence à côté de la résidence où vivent nos amis (ils sont plutôt vers le sud, après l'aéroport, donc assez excentrés). Le mieux sera peut-être alors d'y aller directement pour leur demander de nous réserver les billets sauf si quelqu'un connaît une agence sympa dans Pékin.
Oups, autant pour moi alors. Je ne sais pas pourquoi je voyais l'aéroport au sud 🤪
Ils nesont pas très loin de l'aéroport, mais je n'en sais pas beaucoup plus 😛
Ils sont dans une résidence où il n'y a que des maisons d'expatriés.
ils sont dans un condo, y'en pas pas mal dans le coin. C'est "sympa" avec les gardes en treillis qui t'accompagnent de l'entrée jusqu'a ton arrivée devant ta porte
😏
ce qui est pratique, souvent il y a un service de navette regulier pour aller en ville, souvent on te depose vers le centre commercial yansha youyi/lufthansa center
Oui cela doit être quelque chose comme ça car ils doivent prévenir la sécurité de notre arrivée et nous devons apporter des photos d'identité pour faire des pass je crois pour pouvoir entrer et sortir tranquillement de la résidence 😛
Alors dans mon guide l'adresse est écrite en chinois 🤪
C'est du côté de la grande mosquée (un peu au nord est de la grande mosquée, et au nord de la tour du tambour...), mais difficile d'en dire plus...
Je me souviens que c'était juste à la sortie du quartier musulman (on est passé devant sans la voir la première fois)...
Bonjour,
Beijing vaut vraiment le déplacement, prévoir 4 jours. Je pense qu'on peut se débrouiller pour les visites en ville avec un bon guide type routard. Sinon pour les visites à l'extérieur comme la muraille de chine, trouver un chauffeur et un guide d'une agence de voyage à Pékin. Moi je pencherais pour Xi'an, y aller en train de nuit, couchettes molles. Belle expérience !
Oui, je crois définitivement que nous allons passer deux jours à Pingyao et deux jours à Xian.
Merci pour ta réponse
Une amie vient de soulever une question : vaut-il mieux se vacciner contre l'hépatite A pour aller en Chine ?
re bonjour,
L'eau n'est pas potable en Chine. Vaccins : aucun obligatoire mais sont recommandés - Diphtérie, tétanos, poliomyélite (Repevax).- Hépatite B- Hépatite A- Fièvre typhoïde- Encéphalite japonaise Traitement contre le paludisme conseillé. http://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/fr/conseils-aux-voya-geurs_909/pays_12191/chine_12226/index.html
J'en reviens et je n'ai rien fait de particulier mais mes vaccins sont à jour. Bon voyage !
Bon, le paludisme, ce n'est que pour certaines zones il me semble.
Pour ce qui en est des vaccins classiques, les miens sont à jour (les trois premiers).
Mais je n'ai pas les autres ....
Bon, le paludisme, ce n'est que pour certaines zones il me semble.
Pour ce qui en est des vaccins classiques, les miens sont à jour (les trois premiers).
Mais je n'ai pas les autres ....
Bonjour,
Pour ce qui est des vaccinations, je vous conseille de consulter le site de l'Institut Pasteur, très bien fait, et dont la compétence est indiscutable. Vous verrez notamment qu'il y a beaucoup de "zones grises", où l'on ne peut pas donner d'avis catégoriques. Ne prenez pas en compte les témoignages de voyageurs : une personne à elle seule n'est pas un échantillon statistique valable en matière sanitaire.
Le Quai d'Orsay déploie systématiquement le parapluie dans ses conseils aux voyageurs. Dans certains pays un peu "exotiques", il fait preuve d'une ignorance assez comique de la réalité ou de son évolution.
Effectivement, tu peux utiliser couteaux et fourchettes sans souci. D'ailleurs, s'ils nous voient galérer avec des baguettes, ils nous en proposent, au moins une cuillère. Pour les enfants petits, pas de souci, ils proposent des cuillères spontanément. Les petits enfants chinois ne savent pas forcément manier la baguette.
T'inquiète pas, tout devrait bien se passer. Et puis, ce n'est pas difficile de manger avec, juste un peu d'entrainement.
Il y a des resto vraiment partout et nous, on n'a pas vu tant de crêpes que ça.
A ta disposition si besoin.
Xau la xau, may la xau, va gan tat ca moi nguoi viet la nguoi xau, to mo , nhieu chuyen, cao, kem thong minh, lua dao, ham tien.... Rac!!
Next year, we’re celebrating 20 years of marriage (and travel 🙂), and we’re looking for something new, pretty legendary, and something the teens will enjoy too.
The family council has settled on Japan for now. And it’d have to be a summer trip—no choice there.
The catch: I keep reading that August isn’t the right season for southern Japan. It’s hot, humid, and there’s a risk of typhoons… Okay, but what does that *actually* mean in practice? Are there any travelers who’ve been there during this time? Is it *that* unbearable?
We’re pretty familiar with Southeast Asia—last year, we dealt with scorching heat in Vietnam and insane humidity, plus a typhoon we experienced from a distance, and visiting Angkor in the blazing sun. Is it worse than that?
Hi,
July 2026: I’m writing to you from Dali.
First, I got scammed on Booking—AI-retouched photos. No tourists at this hotel (Yishanju Designer Hotel), and the reality was horrible: dirty, with a disgusting breakfast. It’s better to use Trip.com here.
Next, the old town was an infernal cacophony, packed with tourists who shoved past without a care. Some vendors harassed you to buy things. All the stalls sold the same cheap plastic junk or other uninteresting stuff. The beautiful scenery was ruined by vendors lining 100% of the alleys. Impossible to walk, crushing heat, nothing good to eat except fresh fruit. Horrible experience.
Day 2: We went to Cangshan Mountain by cable car—the ride was short and nothing spectacular. We were at 2,600 m.
My plan was to see Erhai Lake. Unfortunately, I followed the advice of an AI chatbot: take the boat at Langkan Dock. The Didi dropped us off in the nearest area, which was full of charming little alleys but packed with Chinese tourists. The three-wheeled yellow cabs zoomed through the narrow streets, forcing you to hug the walls, on top of the scooters and other pedestrians to deal with. Crossing the neighborhood was hellish and suffocating. Once out, we hit the "corniche," which was also packed with Chinese tourists. The lake’s edge was all pebbles, and everyone was standing around taking photos. I was with my 5-year-old son. I would’ve liked to sit down and let him play with stones by the water, but it was clear we didn’t belong. They were even shoving each other for a shot! There were no boats in sight. In short, we’d had enough, and there was nothing interesting there either.
On the way back, we had to cross that maze again under the scorching sun. My son was braver than me—I even had a little dizzy spell from all the chaos. Add to that Dali’s altitude (2,200 m), so altitude insomnia, fatigue, and vulnerability during the day...
The restaurants weren’t inviting—the staff served sticky rice in a little bucket. The dishes were wrapped, and you had to figure it out yourself. After that, they ignored you completely, even if you were the only tourist.
On the 3rd day, it was time to leave for Shaxi. I hope to see beautiful villages. But honestly, I’m exhausted by this atmosphere where everything is complicated, communication is never smooth, noise is everywhere, and the behavior of some Chinese people is abusive...
Silver lining: not a drop of rain in 4 days and blue skies.
I couldn’t visit the villages in southern Yunnan because of rain and storms there...
But I was expecting to see a few more tourists.
I’m heading to Yunnan in February 2027.
We’ll be traveling exclusively by train since my daughter gets car sick.
Our itinerary includes:
Kunming
Jianshui
Dali
Shaxi
Lijiang
Shangri-La
I’d love any tips, especially other places to visit (without winding roads) or great hotel, guesthouse, or minsu recommendations.
Thanks!
Claudine
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In the sea of VPNs, I'm looking for one to use in China for just a month (free or paid). Which one should I pick? All the ones I've found are for several months or even a year.
I’m planning an itinerary for Hokkaido but I’m struggling to decide if late May to early June will be the right time.
Too early for the flower fields but…
What do you think?
Hi,
Our trip is planned for 20 days in Japan next April. We have a free subscription that would allow us to use 35 GB (I’m a bit confused), but we also need to be able to make phone calls with a French couple traveling with us for a few days, and that seems impossible due to cost... Any solutions for using GPS while keeping those 35 GB? Used to traveling in Southeast Asia, we usually rely on local SIM cards. Is it easy to do the same in Japan?
Thanks for your help!
Best,
Tialou
Hi,
My departure is coming up soon—two months backpacking in Taiwan, so much to discover! I’d love to hear about your travel experiences.
My main interests are meeting people, understanding how things work, hiking, and nature in general. I’ve also done a lot of reading about Taiwan’s complex situation.
I do stone sculpture.
I also want to visit Orchid Island for its history.
Marie
Hi,
I’ve always been used to exchanging my money (€) in town no matter the country (with a "mini exchange" at the airport if needed).
I can’t find any recent posts on this topic from the last few years.
Does anyone have any insights on this? Intrinsic benefits, best places to exchange, etc.?
I arrive at Tokyo Haneda on a Friday around 12:30 PM, and my first night is very close to Shinjuku.
Thanks.
Here are some tips from our 6-week trip (summer 2026) to China, Vietnam, and Cambodia. We traveled as a family of four with two kids aged 15 and 12.
I hope these notes help other travelers!
CHINA
General
You’ll need to download and set up a few apps:
- Alipay and WeChat for payments (I didn’t withdraw a single bill the entire trip)
- Didi for taxis
- Amap = Chinese Maps (works great, especially for subways)
- A translation app (we used Papago, but it sometimes gave weird results)
- Google Lens for translating menus or signs—super handy.
- HelloRide for bikes
- Gemini and ChatGPT for everything: understanding daily life, enhancing visits, checking the weather, finding things.
- HomeExchange if you want to lower travel costs (few listings in Asia except in big cities, often expats)
- Trip.com is very useful, even essential, for trains, domestic flights, and hotels. Like Booking.com, the more you book with them, the more perks you get. So I’d even suggest checking flight tickets on this site, even if it’s a bit pricier. However, buying train tickets is complicated because (1) they only open 15 days in advance, and (2) they sell out fast. Trip.com just promises to buy them as soon as they’re available but doesn’t always succeed. It’s stressful and might force you to change your plans, especially if you’re aiming for a sleeper car and there are no seats left. Watch out for station names—many cities have multiple stations, including a high-speed rail one outside the city.
For internet, we got the Asia plan from Holafly. It worked but seemed much slower than Chinese internet. I regretted not buying a Chinese SIM card because without internet in China, everything is VERY complicated (money, transport, etc.).
For the firewall, we used ExpressVPN, but it wasn’t always reliable. A bit disappointing. Ask ChatGPT for tips with screenshots to improve the settings.
Since we only had one SIM card with internet, we couldn’t rent shared bikes. If I were to do it again, I’d get a SIM for each person, even the kids, because distances in cities are huge. We walked *a lot*. Same goes for buses—it’s tricky with just one internet connection. Better to have a phone per person with internet.
Book your visits as far in advance as possible—they often sell out.
Watch out for power banks: if they don’t explicitly say "3C," they’ll confiscate it. Even if there’s a little airplane logo.
Shanghai
In the evening, the streets leading to the Bund from the metro were so crowded that police were out in force blocking roads. Arrive early. We went around the north side.
Suzhou
Be careful—there are two stations (common in China), and the high-speed rail one is 45–50 minutes from the old town.
The Humble Administrator’s Garden was *packed*—we don’t recommend it. It turned into a marathon day from Shanghai (almost 4 hours from our hotel to the garden).
Beijing
Forbidden City: Don’t go—I know it’s a shame, but it’s too crowded. I couldn’t buy tickets on the official site because of the kids’ passports. We ended up with a guided tour, the only way to get in (tickets sell out fast). The visit was disappointing—bad guide *and* massive crowds. You’ll queue a lot to enter and see certain areas. You’ll be checked often, so pack your bags carefully.
Great Wall at Mutianyu: Crowded. Two hours by bus, and even though we arrived early, people were already leaving! I really think the best option is to leave your big bags in Beijing and stay overnight near the Wall. That way, you’ll have it to yourself a bit more. For transport: get off at Tiananmen Square metro and look for buses with official guides in bright yellow-green vests. No need to buy tickets online—they made me cancel mine to rebook on the spot. Buses leave when full. Note: the cable car and chairlift are separate—if you want to go up one side and down the other, you’ll need different tickets. The endless queue for the toboggan ride put us off.
Quick tip: Incredible swimming spot in Beijing—on the north shore of Houhai Lake, you can swim by crossing the barrier. We did it twice with about ten other people. Bring a swimsuit!
Shapotou Desert
Amazing, but it gets *very* hot in the afternoon. We had a tent (not an air-conditioned bungalow), which was unbearable during the day. We hung out in the restaurant.
The paid activities are fun, except the camels—they look sad. The real highlight is the evening and sunset. The only downside: you can’t explore the desert alone or far—they don’t rent 4x4s, for example.
We stayed at "The Desert Camping Hotel of the Proprietress of Shapotou." They were lovely.
Zhongwei
Gaomiao Temple and its underground: Fun and short—you’ll see quirky Buddhist hell paintings.
Xi’an
Terracotta Army: We took a Didi because for four people, a car was almost the same price as four shuttle tickets. It was packed—chaotic to see properly.
We visited the halls in order: 3, 2, then 1—a good choice.
Hua Shan Mountains: Left before sunrise to arrive when the ticket office opened (7 AM, I think). We were shocked to see so many people already coming down.
45 minutes by bus to the west cable car, then 15 minutes up.
We did the west, south, east, central, then north peaks (in that order) before taking the other cable car down (you can buy the ticket at the top). A beautiful day.
In the city, check out...
Chengdu
Panda Research Center: Like Hua Shan, plan to arrive when the ticket office opens. Already *tons* of people, and it moves fast to see the big pandas before their nap. Have them drop you at the west entrance (not south), or you’ll have to walk uphill.
Leshan Giant Buddha: Interesting. The trip is a bit long (metro, then train, then city bus, then shuttle on-site). We didn’t take the boat option but walked. In the end, you only spend a few minutes at the Buddha’s feet, but it’s a nice day out.
Hotel tip: Panda Enjoy Home Hotel Apartments (Chengdu East Railway Station Dongda Road Branch). The view is insane, and the neighborhood is super convenient and nice. 646 CNY for 2 nights.
Swimming: The municipal pool is an interesting experience, but don’t expect to swim—no one does. Everyone just splashes around where they can stand. The hours are a bit odd, with a break in the late afternoon.
Kunming
The bike path along Dian Lake is pretty and often well-protected from cars. But like everywhere in China, it’s *packed*. Not much to say about visits—the flower market is a wholesale market, not very interesting. The ethnic minorities museum closed right in front of us.
All the big malls are good for shopping.
Dali
We thought we could bike around the lake in two days. Wrong on two counts: First, the lake’s edge is blocked to traffic and reserved for bikes (or tourist mini-buses). So you’re stuck on the main road, which never gives you a view of the lake, with all the trucks and cars. Doing 120 km like that wouldn’t make sense, in our opinion. The rice fields around are nice but not as impressive as elsewhere, so Dali isn’t worth it for that.
The old town, all restored, is pretty but *packed*—thousands of people, especially in the evening.
Hekou (Vietnam border)
Comfortable train from Kunming. In the parking lot, a bus (not well-marked, but Didi is an option) takes you to the border in 15–20 minutes. Short wait at both border posts. Fun to see the two lampposts near the border line: the Chinese one is new, modern, with a surveillance camera (of course), while the Vietnamese one is old and a bit rusty.
VIETNAM
General:
- You’ll need the Grab app for taxis
- Very disappointed with 12Go—it doesn’t show all buses, never connects you with the company, and refuses refunds. Try booking directly with companies like FUTA Bus instead.
- Credit cards are often accepted (supermarkets and modern stores), otherwise, you’ll need cash
Lao Cai
2 km between the border and the train station.
The sleeper bus to Hanoi with Sao Viet is well-organized—it works.
Hanoi
Ho Chi Minh Mausoleum closes early (10:30 AM, I think).
Women’s Museum: Very good, not too long
Temple of Literature: Beautiful, fairly quick
This is where you should buy souvenirs, clothes, and knockoffs—the prices are reasonable, and the sellers are nicer than elsewhere. We recommend Cho Dong Xuan.
Tu Long Bay
We did 2 days, 1 night (so really 24 hours on the boat) with Parfum d’Automne (French-speaking agency), which put us on a Cycad Cruise boat. Cost: 300 € per person—expensive, but it was amazing, super luxurious, and the buffet meals were delicious. We don’t regret the splurge. The only downside: no swimming in the bay (but there’s a pool on the boat). To swim, you’d need a 3-day, 2-night trip to an area not protected by the maritime park.
Phong Nha
If you didn’t do the northern mountains due to time or weather (like us), Phong Nha is a great stop for a motorbike ride. It’s beautiful, especially the mountains west of the city toward the caves.
There are two (small) swimming spots at the Botanic Garden—a pleasant 45-minute walk without stops.
Hotel tip: Sunbeam Village (very friendly, pool, breakfast by the river, motorbike rentals)
Da Nang
Hotel tip: Meridians by Hsuite—you’ll have the beach almost to yourself. You’ll still need to walk 15–20 minutes to the hyper-touristy area if you want to rent surfboards (150–200k VND per hour).
The beach is beautiful, and the water is 30°C—great for a break on a long trip, especially since all transport goes through Da Nang.
Hoi An
45 minutes from Da Nang, so it’s easy to visit in a day, especially since the city isn’t that big and it’s *very* hot.
Cooking class: MS Hanh cooking class—great (the market tour is a bit useless). We don’t recommend the "basket boat" tour—it’s a bit sad on a big brown pond with elderly guides.
Ho Chi Minh City
Ben Thanh Market is a nightmare: starting prices are exorbitant, and the vendors are aggressive. Don’t go.
The War Remnants Museum can be really tough for kids.
Can Tho
Avoid this city. We made the mistake of going to see the floating market—don’t.
Chau Doc
No Grab in the city, but regular taxis.
One day is enough if you go early to the forest and the mountain in the late afternoon.
250k VND per person for the forest and its canals (45 minutes by motorbike)
The sunset at Victoria Nui Sam can be magnificent if the clouds cooperate.
Cheap and good restaurant: Quan Nem Nuong Sau Hiep
Hotel tip: Homestay Khoa (2,250,000 VND for 3 nights)—adorable hostess, full of tips, clean rooms.
The speedboat to Cambodia is more comfortable than a bus. Book with Hangchau a few days in advance—payment in cash on the day (1,640,000 đ).
CAMBODIA
General:
- Issues with the "Bakong Tourists" app—we had to go to a big bank to load money onto it. We barely used it afterward.
Phnom Penh
For us, a day and a half is enough if you want to spend more time elsewhere.
Markets close early (around 6 PM) and are less interesting than in Hanoi, for example.
The Royal Palace has a break from 11 AM to 2 PM, but there aren’t many people in the afternoon.
Siem Reap
Trip with Capitol company—the bus is basic but cheap. Departs at 10:15 AM, 7-hour ride.
Angkor entrance fee: 62 USD per person for a 3-day pass. Tickets are picked up at Angkor Enterprise.
Renting two 125cc motorbikes: 10 USD each, plus 7 USD for gas.
By bike, it took me 25 minutes to reach Angkor Wat’s pools. A basic city bike rental was 1 USD per hour.
Short circuit by motorbike (in reverse): 7 hours with stops everywhere.
Grand tour by tuk-tuk: Only 5 temples, 4.5 hours.
If you want to see lots of monkeys, they’re grouped west of Bayon.
For the temples, we asked Gemini (AI) at each stop to point out details that might interest kids (who can get bored with the repetition). It gave fun facts and things to look for—great for the little ones.
Hotel tip: The Five Senses, run by a Frenchman, Bruno, who knows Cambodia inside out and organizes tours.
Restaurant tip: Wild (only spring rolls, but *so* many varieties—delicious and cheap)
Watch out: 1 hour to the airport, 50 km from the city.
Show tip: The Phare Circus
Has anyone taken the bus recently, especially the Busda bus from Dongsi subway station to Mutianyu or the special tourist bus from Qianmen to Mutianyu? If so, I’d love to hear your feedback!
I’m traveling solo to China on September 18th and I’m completely overwhelmed by all the info out there.
This isn’t my first trip, but it’s still tough to make choices, so I’m open to outside perspectives.
This time, the plan is southern Kyushu with a slightly more off-the-beaten-path twist.
I’m not sure if you’ll be able to help since I’m skipping some of the classics in Kyushu, but you never know.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on whether this itinerary is realistic in terms of time spent in each place, travel time, and the overall pace of the road trip. Just to note, I already have my translated driver’s license.
Here’s the itinerary:
- **Day 1:** YAMAGA / overnight in Yamaga or Kumamoto
Depart from Osaka by train early in the morning to Kumamoto, pick up the rental car, then drive to Yamaga for a visit. Overnight in Yamaga or Kumamoto.
- **Days 2–4:** HITOYOSHI / overnight in Hitoyoshi
Drive to Hitoyoshi for 3 days and 3 nights, including a visit to the town, nearby waterfalls, a walk along the Kuma River, a tea producer visit, and some craft activities.
- **Day 5:** AYA / overnight in Miyazaki
Drive to Aya, visit the town, craft activities, the forest, and the suspension bridge.
- **Day 6:** AOSHIMA - NICHINAN COAST / overnight in Miyazaki
Udo Shrine + Aoshima + scenic drive along the coast.
- **Day 7:** MIYAKONOJO / overnight in Shibushi
Drive to a waterfall, then continue along the Nichinan Coast if there’s anything left to see, or visit Kojima Island.
- **Day 8:** SHIBUSHI
Walk around the port and along the Osumi Peninsula coast, maybe as far as the Kishira/Hetsuka coast, or visit a black pork producer, a market gardener, or a tea producer. Overnight at a farm?
- **Day 9:** KANOYA / overnight in Kagoshima
Visit Ogawara Waterfall, Nishiharadai Park, and Kannon Cave, then Sugawara Shrine, followed by the drive to Kagoshima.
- **Day 10:** KAGOSHIMA / overnight in Kagoshima
Explore the city + whisky distillery in Hioki.
- **Days 11–12:** KOSHIKISHIMA / 2 nights in Koshikishima
- **Day 13:** AKUNE OSHIMA / overnight in Akune
Ferry, then drive to Akune Oshima with a stop at Sendai Taki.
- **Days 14–15:** AMAKUSA / overnight in Amakusa
Drive via Nagashima and visit Shimoshima (Amakusa).
- **Day 16:** AMAKUSA / overnight in Fukuoka
Drive back toward Kumamoto with stops along the way, return the rental car, then take the train to Fukuoka.
- **Days 17–18:** FUKUOKA CITY / overnight in Fukuoka
Possible half-day excursion to Nokonoshima, Munakata, or Nanzoin.
Any thoughts or suggestions?
Too ambitious?
I could add an extra day but would prefer not to if it means less rushing around.
Hi everyone,
To simplify logistics, I'm considering renting a car for 5/6 days in the Japanese Alps before heading to Kyoto solo.
Is driving difficult or even risky in this region?
Thanks for your feedback!
Tara
We’re arriving as a group of three in Tokyo on Saturday, October 17th, then heading straight to Kyoto by direct train.
On Sunday and Monday, we’ll explore Kyoto, and in the evening, we’ll take a train to Osaka to spend the night.
On Tuesday, we’ll pick up a rental car at Itami Airport for a 6-day/5-night road trip around Shikoku:
- 2 nights in the Iya Valley
- Thursday morning, we’ll head to Matsuyama for 2 nights.
- Saturday, we’ll visit Mima (town, a few temples + overnight stay) and return on Sunday to drop off the car in Osaka.
We’ll leave very early on Monday the 26th by plane for Aomori in northern Honshu, where we’ll pick up another rental car at the airport for a 5-day/4-night trip:
- Day 1: Tsugaru Peninsula (Takayam Inari, Cape Tappi, Kanita); overnight in Kanita
- Day 2: Ferry transfer to the Mutsu Peninsula (cliffs, Lake Usori); overnight in Shimofuro
- Day 3: Head to the Hakkoda Mountains and onsens galore; overnight TBD
- Day 4: Return the car in Aomori by noon and explore the city before taking the train to Tokyo in the evening
We’ll spend Friday night in Tokyo, wander around on Saturday, and head home on Sunday.
Thoughts on the road feasibility of this trip? We’ll be there right in the middle of Koyo season, so it’ll be busy...
I know it’s a lot of driving, but there are two of us who can take turns. We’re not afraid of driving, even in the mountains and on the left side! Just wondering, are we going to be rushing, or is this manageable? AI says it’s all good, but it’s not the one driving...
Any tips for booking accommodations in the Iya Valley? Not many places have email addresses or websites (I know Booking.com exists, but not all listings are on there... and given the season, I think it’s better to book ahead!). Same question applies for northern Honshu.
For the rental car, I’m thinking of going with Alamo since at least it’s in French and straightforward, but are there any direct rental companies with user-friendly websites (Toyota Rentacar, ugh... 🏴☠️)?
Another question: With so many trains, is it even necessary to book them in advance? Can we just go to the ticket counter and grab seats on the spot?
For paying for the rental car, do we need a credit or debit card?
I saw there are several "authentic" villages about 90/100 km from Beijing.
Including: Lingshui, Liuliqu, Sangyu, Miaoying, and Cuandixia.
Has anyone visited any of them? I was thinking of choosing Cuandixia—what do you think?
Thanks in advance.
Hi everyone!
It seems there’s a flea market in Tianjin that’s way more interesting than the one in Beijing. I’ve been searching online but can’t find the right one… The one I’m looking for is called gu wan shi chang (my PC won’t display the Chinese characters…). Does anyone have the address and has anyone been there before? The one in Beijing has lost a lot of its charm over the past 10 years, so I wanted to find another. Thanks!
I’m looking for advice from seasoned travelers about a roughly one-month trip to Japan.
From late October to late November 2026.
We often travel in Southeast Asia but have never been to Japan.
Based on what I’ve read, I’d love to hear your thoughts on:
- Is traveling day-to-day, without booking hotels or trains in advance, possible in Japan?
(I’ve read many travel journals and blogs that say everything was booked way in advance… but that’s not how we usually travel.)
- Will the Japan Rail Pass be worth it for us?
(According to an old simulator, I’m looking at around 400 € for trains compared to 570 € for the JRP.)
Here’s our rough itinerary (which may change):
- Arrival Osaka: 3 nights with Nara
- Hiroshima and Miyajima Island: 3 nights
- Kurashiki or Naoshima: 2 nights
- Himeji: 1 night
- Kyoto: 4 nights
- Kanazawa: 2 nights
- Takayama and Shirakawa-go: 3 nights
- Around Mount Fuji: 3 nights
- Tokyo with Nikko: 6 nights (no theme parks)
Departure from Tokyo
I booked my trip from May 5 to 26, 2027. I’m starting to plan my itinerary and look for hotels (I know it’s early!). While I’ve found some in Seoul and Busan, I’m noticing that elsewhere—like Yeosu—most hotels aren’t available (on Booking.com, for example, almost all are unavailable). AI tells me not to worry because hotels in South Korea only open bookings 6 months in advance, so it’s normal to see most of them unavailable on booking sites.
Could you confirm this for me and, of course, reassure me (!)? Thanks so much.
philippe
We’re back from a one-month trip to China and wanted to share our itinerary. Hopefully, this can give future travelers some ideas for exploring this beautiful country.
Beijing → Temple of Heaven / Forbidden City
Jinshanling → Great Wall
Zhangjiajie → Tianmen Mountain and Heaven’s Gate
Wulingyuan → Avatar Mountains / sandstone pillars
Fenghuang → riverside houses
Ping’an → terraced rice fields
Tiantouzhai → village / rice terraces
Yangshuo → Li River / karst mountains
Shanghai → skyline with the Oriental Pearl Tower
Our travel journal is available on our travel journal, written day by day. You’ll find lots of photos and some travel tips there.
I’m starting to look at neighborhoods in Seoul, and I’m leaning toward staying in a hotel in Insa-Dong—I’ve spotted one really close to Unhyeongung.
Is this a good area—nice and convenient for exploring the city?
Otherwise, I’ve also found another hotel in Yongsan-Gu, right near the station of the same name. Is that station useful for getting around Seoul?
Since I’ll be in South Korea for nearly two months, I plan to spend at least a week in Seoul to recover from jet lag (it takes me a while to adjust...). So, I’d love a neighborhood that’s pleasant and a hotel not too far from a subway station.
Hi there,
I’d like to do this cycling route over 2 or 3 days. I’m struggling to figure out and find a (good) bike rental that lets me start in Onomichi and drop off in Imabari. Can anyone help with great tips for rentals and accommodations along the route? How do I get back to Onomichi afterward?
I’m back with my detailed itinerary for 20 days in South Korea—it’s my first trip to the country. Our idea is to experience a more rural and cultural Korea. Here’s the rough plan: Seoul for 4 nights at the start and 1 night at the end, Gurye for 4 nights, Suncheon for 4 nights, Namhae for 4 nights, and Gyeongju for 2 nights. The goal is to pick a base and explore the surrounding areas. What do you think of this itinerary? Anything you’d change?
thanks
hi everyone, we're heading out for a 12-day trek in the Japanese Alps. We're bringing freeze-dried meals like we always do. We just found out that importing meat is banned, even freeze-dried. Is that true? We already bought them. They're commercially made freeze-dried meals. Online, it's not specified that they have to be "commercially made" because you can make your own freeze-dried food. And since we've heard they're really strict in Japan, can anyone confirm this for us? thanks
I haven’t found what I’m looking for despite my searches!
For a 15-day trip next spring, I’d like to buy a card (preferably an eSIM, but a physical SIM is fine too) that also lets me make calls in the country (to contact a hotel, a tourist spot, etc.).
You can easily find options just for data, but I haven’t come across any that include calls, texts, or even MMS.
Could you recommend something?
hi there
I’m planning a trip in September—here’s my rough itinerary. What do you think? Is it easy to rent a car to get around between my stops? Thanks so much!
Philippe
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