Chutes d'Iguazú: aller du côté du Brésil
by Stompeli
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Nous serons à Iguazu au début mars pour 2 jours 1/2. Nous nous demandons si ça vaut la peine d'aller du côté du Brésil. En tant que canadiens, nous devons nous procurer un visa pour entrer au Brésil et le visa est relativement dispendieux 210 $ par personne (soit environ 150 euros).
Bonjour,
Le côté brésilien vaut vraiment le coup. Disons que côté brésilien c'est mieux au niveau de la vue : on a vraiment une vue d'ensemble sur les chutes, c'est vraiment splendide. Par contre c'est plus court à faire que le côté argentin et on s'approche moins des chutes. En gros les 2 visites complémentaires. Après, dire si ça vaut les 150 euros supplémentaires du visa, c'est une question très personnelle 😉
Le côté brésilien vaut vraiment le coup. Disons que côté brésilien c'est mieux au niveau de la vue : on a vraiment une vue d'ensemble sur les chutes, c'est vraiment splendide. Par contre c'est plus court à faire que le côté argentin et on s'approche moins des chutes. En gros les 2 visites complémentaires. Après, dire si ça vaut les 150 euros supplémentaires du visa, c'est une question très personnelle 😉
Bonsoir
tout à fait d'accord avec le post au dessus. le côté Brésilien permet de voir les chutes de plus loin et dans leur ensemble mais de mémoire en 2-3 heures on a fait le tour; Ensuite il y a un très beau parc des oiseaux de l'autre côté de la route. mais cela a un cout et pour vous, encore plus. Côté Argentin, on y passe la journée et c'est vraiment très spectaculaire car on s'approche de très près. S'il n'y a qu'un côté à faire, je choisirai ce dernier mais tout est question de goût !
Bon voyage Christine
tout à fait d'accord avec le post au dessus. le côté Brésilien permet de voir les chutes de plus loin et dans leur ensemble mais de mémoire en 2-3 heures on a fait le tour; Ensuite il y a un très beau parc des oiseaux de l'autre côté de la route. mais cela a un cout et pour vous, encore plus. Côté Argentin, on y passe la journée et c'est vraiment très spectaculaire car on s'approche de très près. S'il n'y a qu'un côté à faire, je choisirai ce dernier mais tout est question de goût !
Bon voyage Christine
Ola Jocelyne! Tout dépend de ton budget, de tes moyens car OUI le côté brésilien est beau mais payer 210$ uniquement pour ça c'est pour moi TRÈS excessif. Si je devais ne visiter qu'un des 2 côtés je choisirais le côté argentin (plus long, plus nature et plus diversifié). Ce n'est pas la question mais c'est juste pour te dire que sans payer le visa tu profiteras pleinement des chutes. OK la passerelle du côté brésilien est en plein cœur des chutes, c'est prenant. Mais que dire de la "Gargantua del diablo" après le trajet en train côté argentin ? Réserves toi le comme "clou du spectacle" lors de ta visite, c'est scotchant 😉
Puis pourquoi ne pas en profiter pour prendre un vol jusque Rio et approfondir le pays de la Samba..? Là le visa s'avèrera amorti (n'oublie pas le parc aux oiseaux avant) 😎
Puis pourquoi ne pas en profiter pour prendre un vol jusque Rio et approfondir le pays de la Samba..? Là le visa s'avèrera amorti (n'oublie pas le parc aux oiseaux avant) 😎
"Vivre, c'est faire de ses rêves des souvenirs." Sylvain Tesson
Si je partage pleinement ce qui a été répondu concernant le côté brésilien en ce qui concerne l'intérêt des chutes ( notamment le surplomb au dessus des chutes) je partage aussi le point de vue de TocTocki.Ce complément de 210$ me parait très excessif pour faire juste ce côté des chutes...;après c'est une question de " moyens"
Nicole
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J'ai fait les deux côtés et si c'était a refaire je referais le côté Argentin plus impressionnant car on est au dessus de chutes et au plus près de celles ci
Bonjour
je vous conseille vivement de voir le coté argentin et bresilien. Bien cordialement. eric
Bonjour,
Je profite du sujet abordé pour poser ma question, plutôt que d'ouvrir une nouvelle discussion.
Je n'ai pas trouvé de réponse en cherchant dans les forums Brésil et Argentine.
Nous comptons visiter les chutes côté argentin au départ de notre hôtel à Foz. Nous pensions commander un taxi. Le trajet en bus étant, semble-t-il, beaucoup plus long. Y-a-t il des taxis qui attendent à la sortie du parc côté argentin le soir, pour revenir dormir du côté brésilien ? Ou doit-on obligatoirement téléphoner pour en commander un ? Ou encore, est-il possible de donner rendez vous à un taxi à notre sortie du parc (aux environ de 17h) ?
Ce sera une grande première pour nous, nous n'avons jamais pris de taxi, ni en France, ni à l'étranger. D'où ma question qui peut paraitre un peu stupide...
Merci d'avance.
Je profite du sujet abordé pour poser ma question, plutôt que d'ouvrir une nouvelle discussion.
Je n'ai pas trouvé de réponse en cherchant dans les forums Brésil et Argentine.
Nous comptons visiter les chutes côté argentin au départ de notre hôtel à Foz. Nous pensions commander un taxi. Le trajet en bus étant, semble-t-il, beaucoup plus long. Y-a-t il des taxis qui attendent à la sortie du parc côté argentin le soir, pour revenir dormir du côté brésilien ? Ou doit-on obligatoirement téléphoner pour en commander un ? Ou encore, est-il possible de donner rendez vous à un taxi à notre sortie du parc (aux environ de 17h) ?
Ce sera une grande première pour nous, nous n'avons jamais pris de taxi, ni en France, ni à l'étranger. D'où ma question qui peut paraitre un peu stupide...
Merci d'avance.
Bonjour Mickael
En tant que professionel du tourisme, je n´utilise pas de taxis pour le transport des clients, aussi, je ne saurais pas vous répondre. Mais nous utilisons des bus pour les excursions en regroupé et des voitures avec chauffeur et guide pour des services privés. Le prix est un forfait et nos chauffeurs sont de confiance, ainsi les clients ne courent pas le risque que soit fait un grand détour pour augmenter le prix de la course...
Le plus sage, à mon avis, est de prendre les bus qui font en permanence ou presque la navette entre les 2 pays. Vraiment le plus simple et le moins onéreux.
Nicole
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Les bus ne font pas Chutes du côté brésilien => Chutes du côté argentin. Tu dois prendre un bus à l'entrée des chutes qui t'amène à la gare routière, puis un bus qui va jusqu'à la gare routière de l'autre pays et encore un autre bus de la gare routière jusqu'à l'entrée des chutes du pays voisin.
Résumé : Chutes 1 =bus=> Gare routière 1 =bus=> Gare routière 2 =bus=> Chute 2. Soit 3 bus.
Je pense que pour ton cas le plus judicieux est de prendre un taxi qui t'amènera à l'entrée des chutes côté argentin depuis ton hôtel brésilien et vous combinez d'un horaire pour qu'il te récupère le soir. Si ce n'est pas possible (ça devrait l'être) alors tu prends le bus jusqu'à la gare routière AR et là tu trouveras des taxis.
Au niveau des bus à noter que : - Les 3 liaisons se font facilement car il y a des bus très fréquemment (mais le taxi est quand même bien plus rapide) - Quand tu pars des chutes BR (vers la gare routière donc) il y a moyen de s'arrêter avant la gare routière pour récupérer un bus allant en Argentine. Sinon ça fait perdre pas mal de temps car le bus passe près de la frontière avant de s'enfoncer dans la ville pour aller à la gare.. afin de prendre le second bus qui va revenir sur nos pas ! Se renseigner auprès des chauffeurs pour savoir où descendre. - Le passage de frontières en bus et les formalités sont rapides
Puis prépares du liquide car les chutes côté argentin tu ne peux payer qu'en espèce et en pesos :)
Je pense que pour ton cas le plus judicieux est de prendre un taxi qui t'amènera à l'entrée des chutes côté argentin depuis ton hôtel brésilien et vous combinez d'un horaire pour qu'il te récupère le soir. Si ce n'est pas possible (ça devrait l'être) alors tu prends le bus jusqu'à la gare routière AR et là tu trouveras des taxis.
Au niveau des bus à noter que : - Les 3 liaisons se font facilement car il y a des bus très fréquemment (mais le taxi est quand même bien plus rapide) - Quand tu pars des chutes BR (vers la gare routière donc) il y a moyen de s'arrêter avant la gare routière pour récupérer un bus allant en Argentine. Sinon ça fait perdre pas mal de temps car le bus passe près de la frontière avant de s'enfoncer dans la ville pour aller à la gare.. afin de prendre le second bus qui va revenir sur nos pas ! Se renseigner auprès des chauffeurs pour savoir où descendre. - Le passage de frontières en bus et les formalités sont rapides
Puis prépares du liquide car les chutes côté argentin tu ne peux payer qu'en espèce et en pesos :)
"Vivre, c'est faire de ses rêves des souvenirs." Sylvain Tesson
Bonsoir, (ou bonjour pour certains)
Tout d'abord merci pour toutes vos réponses, et particulièrement à ToctocCki.
Si je comprends bien, pas de soucis pour récupérer un taxi à la sortie du parc côté argentin. Ce que j'avais lu, c'est qu'à priori le trajet est beaucoup plus long en bus. Nous essaierons donc de nous arranger avec le chauffeur à l'aller.
Notre programme devrait être le suivant:
Jour1: arrivée à Foz vers 15h par avion, direction les chutes côté Brésil en bus en laissant nos bagages à la consigne du parc nuit dans le centre de Foz
Jour2: passage du côté argentin en taxi nuit à Foz
Jour3: Parc des oiseaux (bagages à la consigne du parc ?) Avion retour vers 15h
Par ailleurs, où nous conseillez-vous de changer notre argent (pesos) ? En Argentine ? A Foz ? Dans une banque ? A l'aéroport de Rio ? En France ? Et combien prévoir pour une seule journée en Argentine ?
Merci d'avance.
😉
Tout d'abord merci pour toutes vos réponses, et particulièrement à ToctocCki.
Si je comprends bien, pas de soucis pour récupérer un taxi à la sortie du parc côté argentin. Ce que j'avais lu, c'est qu'à priori le trajet est beaucoup plus long en bus. Nous essaierons donc de nous arranger avec le chauffeur à l'aller.
Notre programme devrait être le suivant:
Jour1: arrivée à Foz vers 15h par avion, direction les chutes côté Brésil en bus en laissant nos bagages à la consigne du parc nuit dans le centre de Foz
Jour2: passage du côté argentin en taxi nuit à Foz
Jour3: Parc des oiseaux (bagages à la consigne du parc ?) Avion retour vers 15h
Par ailleurs, où nous conseillez-vous de changer notre argent (pesos) ? En Argentine ? A Foz ? Dans une banque ? A l'aéroport de Rio ? En France ? Et combien prévoir pour une seule journée en Argentine ?
Merci d'avance.
😉
Yes très bien le programme.
Pour la consigne à l'entrée du parc brésilien c'est ok, ça coûte 30 réais je crois pour un grand casier tu l'achète à la billeterie du parc à côté.
Pour le parc aux oiseaux aha j'ai été confronté au même problème. Le taxi ne voulait pas me les garder, le local des taxiteurs non plus (risque de vol) donc on m'a indiqué de les mettre dans ce même casier à l'entrée du parc situé à qq centaines de mètres de là.. Finalement j'ai réussi à m'arranger avec un marchand de chapeaux sur le parking du parc aux oiseaux en lui donnant un pourboire !
Pour l'argent tu as proche de la gare routière des banques et des changes. Le taxi peut te déposer à une banque et tu retires des pesos. Ou alors préfères le change si tu as du cash à échanger. Sachant que le liquide te permettra de payer l'entrée du parc, le taxi et les extras. Pour l'hôtel (déja réservé?) ou les restos tu peux payer par CB. D'ailleurs je te conseille de faire un tour à "El quincho del Tio Querido". Un bon resto avec des grillades à souhaits et une ambiance musicale typique ! 😉
Pour l'argent tu as proche de la gare routière des banques et des changes. Le taxi peut te déposer à une banque et tu retires des pesos. Ou alors préfères le change si tu as du cash à échanger. Sachant que le liquide te permettra de payer l'entrée du parc, le taxi et les extras. Pour l'hôtel (déja réservé?) ou les restos tu peux payer par CB. D'ailleurs je te conseille de faire un tour à "El quincho del Tio Querido". Un bon resto avec des grillades à souhaits et une ambiance musicale typique ! 😉
"Vivre, c'est faire de ses rêves des souvenirs." Sylvain Tesson
Merci de ta réponse.
Je crois que je laisserai mes bagages à la consigne des chutes côté brésilien pour aller aux parc des oiseaux. Je les récupérerai en sortant.
J'avais lu que le parc des oiseaux était juste en face des chutes, en réalité il faut marcher plusieurs centaines de mètres !! Merci pour l'info.
Tant pis nous marcherons un petit peu.
J'ai vu que tu habitais à Paraty, je reviens vers toi très bientôt. J'aurai certainement quelques questions.
😉
J'ai vu que tu habitais à Paraty, je reviens vers toi très bientôt. J'aurai certainement quelques questions.
😉
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My departure is slowly approaching, and now that I’ve got my Russian visa sorted, I’m fine-tuning the rest of my trip to Tajikistan. Since the Tajik visa is no longer required for stays under 30 days (for French nationals), I’ll need to visit the Ministry of Interior (OVIR) to register within 10 days of entering the country. No big deal, though, since I had to go there anyway to apply for my GBAO permit. 😉 However, I’ve *seen* several reports from travelers (mostly motorized) mentioning that you need an entry permit for Kyrgyzstan, which has to be arranged in advance at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) in Dushanbe. Otherwise, you’re *stuck* at the Kyzyl-Art border (with no Wi-Fi, of course, to try and sort it out). The most recent report was from a year ago, so I’d love to know if this is still the case and if it’s indeed at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) where you need to go for this pre-authorization.
Does anyone have any recent info on this?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone.
I’m leaving for almost 3 months in the Philippines (11 weeks total) starting in early May.
I already have my round-trip ticket.
The problem is, I don’t have time to get a 2-month visa because the process takes nearly a month.
From what I’ve read here and there, I need a return ticket valid for less than a month when I arrive in the Philippines to prove my good faith.
After that, I can apply for a 30-day extension at the immigration office.
I’m planning to either buy a fully refundable ticket to the nearest country or a fake ticket.
For 3 months, I’ll need to extend my visa two more times before my return date to France.
My question is this:
Will immigration ask me each time I extend my visa by one month to show proof of an exit ticket matching the new visa extension date?
Is it possible to extend directly by 2 months before the initial 30 days expire?
Thanks in advance for your experiences and tips! 😊
Hello to all the Thailand regulars.
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
My partner (Mexican) entered France on January 21st as a tourist. She was therefore entitled to stay for 90 days in the Schengen Area. She’ll be leaving for Mexico on April 16th, so she’ll have “used up” 86 days.
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
Hello, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2026!
We’re heading back in October for a trip through Botswana, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.
I have a question: for our route, we’ll need to cross the Zambia and Zimbabwe borders twice each. From experience, I know we won’t have any issues with Botswana.
But for the other two countries, I can’t find a clear answer.
All your tips are welcome!
Thanks for your replies
Thanks for your replies
Hi everyone!
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
hi everyone,
I’m French and live in France, and my Thai girlfriend just told me she’s pregnant—she lives in Thailand. First step, a paternity test to set my mind at ease. What steps do I need to take to recognize the child? Can I do it before the birth or only after? Where do I need to go, and what paperwork is required?
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.