Circuit côte Ouest américaine
by Celou14
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour j'envisage au moi d'aout de partir 15 jours ou plus faire la cote Ouest road trip .......
San Francisco
Los Angeles
Las Vegas grand canyon , Monument Valley et finir par New York ....
Est Ce que j'aurais assez de temps .....
Je voudrais louer en arrivant une voiture , laquelle nous conseillez vous et dans quelles agences de locations, avant ou après notre départ....
Nous avons un budget de 6000 €
Et au niveaux des hôtels quel type....
Merci de vos réponses.
A combien partez-vous? Êtes-vous plutôt nature ou plutôt ville? Aimez-vous marcher? Et autres questions sur vos centres d'intérêt qui aideraient à vous donner une réponse utile.
Pour la voiture, il faudra réserver avant de partir. Les agences classiques qu'on trouve partout sont Avis, Hertz et Alamo. Vous trouverez des codes de réduction en cherchant sur le forum qui permettent d'économiser quelques %.
A priori, 15 jours avec New-York me semble un peu court mais pas totalement impossible.
Pour la voiture, il faudra réserver avant de partir. Les agences classiques qu'on trouve partout sont Avis, Hertz et Alamo. Vous trouverez des codes de réduction en cherchant sur le forum qui permettent d'économiser quelques %.
A priori, 15 jours avec New-York me semble un peu court mais pas totalement impossible.
Hello Marcel,
Il faudrait peut être déjà commencer par un peu de lecture. Cette page répondra déjà à pas mal de vos questions: http://jeveuxcamperauxusa.blogspot.fr/2011/07/organisation-du-voyage.html
Il faudrait peut être déjà commencer par un peu de lecture. Cette page répondra déjà à pas mal de vos questions: http://jeveuxcamperauxusa.blogspot.fr/2011/07/organisation-du-voyage.html
Hello
Beaucoup trop chargé pour 15 jours. Et puis quand tu es à Monument Valley, de quel aéroport repartez-vous pour aller à New York ? Beaucoup trop de kilomètres, il va falloir augmenter la durée du voyage ou revoir à la baisse ses ambitions.
Beaucoup trop chargé pour 15 jours. Et puis quand tu es à Monument Valley, de quel aéroport repartez-vous pour aller à New York ? Beaucoup trop de kilomètres, il va falloir augmenter la durée du voyage ou revoir à la baisse ses ambitions.
Je suis sur le principe d'accord avec Itat. Au pied de la lettre, ça reste faisable (SF, LA, LV, Gd Canyon, Monumen Valley, vol LV-NY) mais il y a tellement à voir d'autre sur ce parcours que c'est un peu gâcher la marchandise et je ne le recommanderais pas. D'où l'importance de connaître vos centres d'intérêt.
Ok merciiiiiiiii je prends note
Bonjour je pars avec ma femme on est novice c'est notre premier grand voyage. ..
On a 6000€
Après si on peux pas New York tant pis
Entre la côté ouest et est qu'elle est la mieux lollll
Merciiiiiiiii
Bonsoir marcel,
Entre la cote Est et la cote Ouest quelle est la mieux😎
Elles sont toutes les deux si differentes qu'il est impossible de le dire. C'est un peu comme si l'on demandait ce qui est le meilleur, les pommes ou les oranges.
La cote Ouest y compris l'Arizona, le New Mexico, l'Utah, vous y venez pour voir la nature, les Parks, les paysages que vous ne verrez nulle part ailleurs.
La cote Est, New York et les grandes villes et aussi un peu les Parks pas du tout comme ceux de l'Ouest.
Alors, un voyage dans l'Ouest pour commencer et l'annee prochaine😎 ou plus tard la cote Est.
A votre service pour toute info
Cordialement
Alex
http://durandale2.blogspot.com/
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Lolllll Oui ma question un.peu bête.....
Vous pensez que à 2 avec 6000€ pour 15 jours ça le fait pour la côté ouest ....
Et quel agence de location voiture choisit et quel véhicule
Merciiiiiiiii
Je ne peux donner que mon avis: l'Ouest, de la tête et des épaules.
Et plutôt que la côte, les montagnes et les déserts de l'intérieur, sans oublier l'Alaska, le plus bel état et le plus préservé des USA.
Je suis à l'instant à LA, où il fait gris et pleut soit dit en passant. Je suis à 500m de la mer mais je crois que je n'irai même pas la voir. Je trouve cette ville moche et sans intérêt. Si j'en avais le temps, je filerais droit vers le désert. Cela dit, je comprends, pour une première fois, qu'on ait envie de faire un saut à Hollywood, Disneyland et Universal Studios. Pour cocher la case et passer à autre chose. Je ne dirais pas autant de mal de San Francisco qui a réellement du charme et un beau site.😉
Sur 15 jours en août, vous pourriez partir de San Francisco, visiter la Sierra Nevasa: Yosemite et Sequoia. Puis faire un tour plus ou moins étendu dans les principaux parcs de la frontière Arizona-Utah, Bryce Canyon, Zion, Page, Grand Canyon et Monument Valley, en passant par Las Vegas et rentrer soir par SF, soit de Las Vagas (à voir en fonction du coût d'abandon de la voiture de location). Vous aurez chaud dans le désert, il vaut mieux le savoir.
Autre option, vous pourriez vous concentrer sur les déserts en laissant tomber SF le la Sierra Nevada et en faisant une boucle soit au départ de de Vegas, soit au départ de Salt Lake City et ainsi aller jusqu'à Moab pour visiter Canyonlands et Arches et les sites de la région de Page. C'est superbe, mais pour une première visite en plein été, je vous recommande plutôt la première option, plus variée et dont une partir sera plus douce climatiquement et plus propice à la balade.
Enfin, si vous tenez à LA, vous pouvez partir de SF, faire la route côtière jusqu'à LA, rouler à travers le désert jusqu'à Vegas, visiter une sélection réduite de parcs de l'Arizona-Utah cités plus haut (faute de temps) et revenir en traversant la vallée de la mort par Yosemite jusqu'à SF. La vallée de la mort, il y fera trop chaud pour pouvoir s'y promener, mais vous pourrez voir les points de vue en voiture (Zabriskie, Dante, Badlands...). C'est quand même très chargé pour quinze jours.
Au niveau budget, comptez 2500€ pour les vols, 700€ pour la voiture (hors essence, je vous conseille de prendre une full size, vous serez très à l'aise à deux), 2000€ pour les hôtels, 100€ pour le pass des parcs nationaux. New York fera exploser l'addition (prix du logement).
Je suis à l'instant à LA, où il fait gris et pleut soit dit en passant. Je suis à 500m de la mer mais je crois que je n'irai même pas la voir. Je trouve cette ville moche et sans intérêt. Si j'en avais le temps, je filerais droit vers le désert. Cela dit, je comprends, pour une première fois, qu'on ait envie de faire un saut à Hollywood, Disneyland et Universal Studios. Pour cocher la case et passer à autre chose. Je ne dirais pas autant de mal de San Francisco qui a réellement du charme et un beau site.😉
Sur 15 jours en août, vous pourriez partir de San Francisco, visiter la Sierra Nevasa: Yosemite et Sequoia. Puis faire un tour plus ou moins étendu dans les principaux parcs de la frontière Arizona-Utah, Bryce Canyon, Zion, Page, Grand Canyon et Monument Valley, en passant par Las Vegas et rentrer soir par SF, soit de Las Vagas (à voir en fonction du coût d'abandon de la voiture de location). Vous aurez chaud dans le désert, il vaut mieux le savoir.
Autre option, vous pourriez vous concentrer sur les déserts en laissant tomber SF le la Sierra Nevada et en faisant une boucle soit au départ de de Vegas, soit au départ de Salt Lake City et ainsi aller jusqu'à Moab pour visiter Canyonlands et Arches et les sites de la région de Page. C'est superbe, mais pour une première visite en plein été, je vous recommande plutôt la première option, plus variée et dont une partir sera plus douce climatiquement et plus propice à la balade.
Enfin, si vous tenez à LA, vous pouvez partir de SF, faire la route côtière jusqu'à LA, rouler à travers le désert jusqu'à Vegas, visiter une sélection réduite de parcs de l'Arizona-Utah cités plus haut (faute de temps) et revenir en traversant la vallée de la mort par Yosemite jusqu'à SF. La vallée de la mort, il y fera trop chaud pour pouvoir s'y promener, mais vous pourrez voir les points de vue en voiture (Zabriskie, Dante, Badlands...). C'est quand même très chargé pour quinze jours.
Au niveau budget, comptez 2500€ pour les vols, 700€ pour la voiture (hors essence, je vous conseille de prendre une full size, vous serez très à l'aise à deux), 2000€ pour les hôtels, 100€ pour le pass des parcs nationaux. New York fera exploser l'addition (prix du logement).
Bonsoir Olivier,
Pour combien de temps a LA?
J'ai vecu 5 ans a LA et j'y retourne pour visiter la famille, mais cet un endroit que je n'aime pas du tout.
San Francisco, je ne voudrais pas vivre autre part.
Cordialement
Alex
http://durandale2.blogspot.com/
How heavy do I journey on the way,
When what I seek (my weary travel’s end)
Shakespeare sonnet 50, vers 1- 2.
Une semaine... de boulot non stop, mais dans une bonne ambiance!
Quand les nuages se dégagent, je regarde la montagne et le désert au loin...
Bonjour
AZ mon humble avis, 6000 € pour 2 15 jours sur la cote ouest est un bon chiffre, (pour le cout du voyage, pas pour la durée qui sera un peu juste.)
Attention toutefois, les billets d'avion sont chers en aout . Celà va du simple au double si vs partez au debut ou a la fin du mois.
Regardez sur GOOGLE FLIGHT pour avoir des idées de prix.
La voiture, faites des simuls : disons qu'une berline confortable revieznt à 500 € les 15 jours (ne voyez pas petit : vs allez rouler beaucoup) Regardez le site AVIS.FR avec le code AWD J046300.
Hotels : une moyenne de 100 € la nuit.
Attention toutefois, les billets d'avion sont chers en aout . Celà va du simple au double si vs partez au debut ou a la fin du mois.
Regardez sur GOOGLE FLIGHT pour avoir des idées de prix.
La voiture, faites des simuls : disons qu'une berline confortable revieznt à 500 € les 15 jours (ne voyez pas petit : vs allez rouler beaucoup) Regardez le site AVIS.FR avec le code AWD J046300.
Hotels : une moyenne de 100 € la nuit.
Bonjour et Merci Olivier de ta réponse....je vois que tu es un connaisseur .
Pour le véhicule quel type et quel agence tu me conseille ....faut til réserver avant ou après.
Merci désoler de t'embêter 😉
faut til réserver avant ou après.
Merci désoler de t'embêter 😉
Après cela ne va pas servir à grand chose !!
Je vous invite à utiliser le moteur de recherche du forum, vous y trouverez de très nombreuses réponses à toutes vos questions 😉
Après cela ne va pas servir à grand chose !!
Je vous invite à utiliser le moteur de recherche du forum, vous y trouverez de très nombreuses réponses à toutes vos questions 😉
Pour la voiture, il faut réserver avant.
Essaie avis.fr avec le code proposé par Jpg13, compare avec Hertz et Alamo. Il n'y a pas de grandes différences de service entre les compagnies, surtout en Californie où le conducteur additionnel est toujours compris dans le prix de base. Tu peux aussi essayer avec avis.com (USA) ou avis.ir (Irlande) et voir s'il y a une différence de prix, ça arrive. Le point important est de toujours bien remplir le champ "Resident" en disant que tu viens de France: les prix seront moins élevés et les assurances indispensables (CDW ou LDW et ALI ou SLI, elles changent de nom avec les compagnies) seront incluses. En fonction de ton budget, choisis Full-size, standard, intermediate ou compact. A deux, ça n'a pas tellement d'importance, il n'y a que la taille et le niveau de confort qui changent. Je suggérais Full-size parce que ce n'est pas tellement plus cher et ce sera plus confortable et que vous n'aurez pas à vous casser la tête à ranger vos bagages.
Bonjour,
En août dernier avec ma femme nous avons fait un trip un peu comme le tien.
23 jours entre NY puis l'Ouest. soit conscient d'une chose c'est que juste pour faire l'ouest et ses grandes lignes et il te faut normalement 3 semaines et en rajoutant NY ça te fait 4 semaines. Si tu as 2 semaines je te conseil de faire soit que l'ouest soit que NY.
Si tu veux des renseignements n'hésite pas.
Cordialement
Clément
Si tu veux des renseignements n'hésite pas.
Cordialement
Clément
Coquille dans mon message précédent: l'adresse d'Avis Irlande, c'est www.avis.ie.
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I’m planning to explore Argentine and Chilean Patagonia for a month in December 2019.
I’m looking for a rental company (or several) that offers single-cab 4x4 pick-ups with a fitted camper cell for two people. I’m specifically after a vehicle with an indoor shower for extra comfort ;) So, no vans—at least not from the rental companies I’ve seen so far.
While browsing the forum, I came across the Chilean rental company Holiday Rent. But do you have any recommendations for Argentine rentals? Because, if I can’t return the vehicle in the same city as pickup, I’d prefer—and it’d likely be cheaper—to at least return it in the same country.
I’m planning to explore Argentine and Chilean Patagonia for a month in December 2019.
I’m looking for a rental company (or several) that offers single-cab 4x4 pick-ups with a fitted camper cell for two people. I’m specifically after a vehicle with an indoor shower for extra comfort ;) So, no vans—at least not from the rental companies I’ve seen so far.
While browsing the forum, I came across the Chilean rental company Holiday Rent. But do you have any recommendations for Argentine rentals? Because, if I can’t return the vehicle in the same city as pickup, I’d prefer—and it’d likely be cheaper—to at least return it in the same country.
Hello,
I’m traveling through Argentina and Chile (as well as Paraguay and Uruguay) with a 2019 Toyota Hilux Euro 6. Could anyone tell me if the local diesel is suitable for its engine, or if I need to take any special precautions (like adding an additive, for example) for these countries? I’d also like to know if driving at high altitudes is possible, and up to what elevation—or if I should worry about the vehicle going into limp mode? If that happens, what should I do?
Thanks in advance
I’m traveling through Argentina and Chile (as well as Paraguay and Uruguay) with a 2019 Toyota Hilux Euro 6. Could anyone tell me if the local diesel is suitable for its engine, or if I need to take any special precautions (like adding an additive, for example) for these countries? I’d also like to know if driving at high altitudes is possible, and up to what elevation—or if I should worry about the vehicle going into limp mode? If that happens, what should I do?
Thanks in advance
Hi there,
Can you tell me if the road between Zagora and M'Gouna is easy or difficult for a 4x4? How much time and how many kilometers should I plan for? I’m traveling in May.
Thanks!
Hi there,
My trip to South Africa is starting to take shape.
However, I'm struggling to figure out the route through Kruger Park. I can't seem to find the information I need about getting around.
Coming from the south, I plan to arrive on Day 1 in the early afternoon at Malelane or Crocodile Bridge.
Do some shopping in Malelane (or Crocodile Bridge main area) and stay overnight outside the park.
Leave on Day 2 at 5 AM for the park. Explore the southern part of the park.
Stay overnight around Skukuza or Lower Sabie. (We don’t want to stay in one of the park’s big camps. We’re looking for a lodge around 200 €.
Head out on Day 3 for a self-drive safari, maybe as far as Orpen.
We’d like to stay in a private reserve on nights 4 and 5.
We’re not sure which one or how to get into a private reserve. Do we need to exit Kruger Park?
On Day 5, we’d like to leave to visit Blyde Canyon (on Day 6).
Could you help us with these different locations?
Thanks
Could you help us with these different locations?
Thanks
Hi there,
I’m planning to leave Morocco for the summer but want to leave my 4x4 there to avoid exceeding the famous 6-month limit. I’d like to park it in one of the two Spanish enclaves (Ceuta or Melilla). Does anyone know of people or companies that handle long-term parking (preferably secure) in either place? Once the car is parked, what’s the best way to get back to France using public transport? Is the nearest airport Tanger from Ceuta?... How do I get there easily, etc. etc.
Thanks in advance! Dominique
I’m planning to leave Morocco for the summer but want to leave my 4x4 there to avoid exceeding the famous 6-month limit. I’d like to park it in one of the two Spanish enclaves (Ceuta or Melilla). Does anyone know of people or companies that handle long-term parking (preferably secure) in either place? Once the car is parked, what’s the best way to get back to France using public transport? Is the nearest airport Tanger from Ceuta?... How do I get there easily, etc. etc.
Thanks in advance! Dominique
hello! I’d like to go to Kazakhstan and rent a fitted 4x4 locally so I can drive off-road trails and sleep inside the vehicle... could anyone share some local rental company addresses, please? Thanks! !
Hi,
I'm about to rent a self-drive 4x4 in Mongolia. Has anyone heard of GOBI.RENT? Otherwise, do you have any tips for checking this company since there's no info on their website (e.g., registration number on the RCS)?
Thanks
I'm about to rent a self-drive 4x4 in Mongolia. Has anyone heard of GOBI.RENT? Otherwise, do you have any tips for checking this company since there's no info on their website (e.g., registration number on the RCS)?
Thanks
Hi everyone,
I’m finalizing my trip starting from Namibia. When I arrive in Divundu, I’d like to head straight to the Khwai area early in the morning to one of the campsites in the Khwai Development Trust. Is the drive doable with a good 4x4 in a day? We’ll spend 2 nights in Khwai, then 2 or maybe 3 nights in the Moremi area (Third Bridge/Xakanaxa/Mboma) before heading back to Maun to wrap up our journey. Is that too much time to spend in each place?
We’d also like to do one or two boat excursions in the delta. Any suggestions for the best options and operators?
Thanks in advance for your tips and advice! Best, Patrick
I’m finalizing my trip starting from Namibia. When I arrive in Divundu, I’d like to head straight to the Khwai area early in the morning to one of the campsites in the Khwai Development Trust. Is the drive doable with a good 4x4 in a day? We’ll spend 2 nights in Khwai, then 2 or maybe 3 nights in the Moremi area (Third Bridge/Xakanaxa/Mboma) before heading back to Maun to wrap up our journey. Is that too much time to spend in each place?
We’d also like to do one or two boat excursions in the delta. Any suggestions for the best options and operators?
Thanks in advance for your tips and advice! Best, Patrick
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to explore the western part of Madagascar from May 1st to 5th, specifically to visit the Tsingy. I’ve heard different versions about the road conditions and access to the Tsingy during this time, so I’d love to hear from people who’ve actually made this trip during this time of year.
Have you traveled from Morondava → Tsingy between May 1st and 5th? Was the journey doable and safe? Did you have access to the Grands Tsingy, or just the Petits Tsingy?
Thanks so much for your feedback—it’ll really help me get a clearer picture! 😊 Also, if you have any recommendations for reliable and experienced driver-guides, I’d love to hear them. Thanks again!
Have you traveled from Morondava → Tsingy between May 1st and 5th? Was the journey doable and safe? Did you have access to the Grands Tsingy, or just the Petits Tsingy?
Thanks so much for your feedback—it’ll really help me get a clearer picture! 😊 Also, if you have any recommendations for reliable and experienced driver-guides, I’d love to hear them. Thanks again!