Dépité...........
by Tsapik
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour à tous et à toute
Juste un petit mess pour dire que je suis outré de voir comment certaine personne pense avoir raison quand elles ont tord et inversement.
Je veux juste dire que ce forum est fait pour partager des idées, des bon plans, bref toute chose utile pour voyageurs que nous sommes (ou pas).
Les gouts et les couleurs ne se discutent pas .............
De plus faire de jugements quand on lit un post parce que l'on apprecie pas la question, le sujet, ne doit pas permettre le jugement de la personne.
Eh oui, nous sommes sur un site internet, et ne connaisons pas ou que très peu l'histoire des autres, les raisons de ce qu'ils demandent.
Et pour finir je voudrais passer un petit coup de gueule, à certaine personnes qui se comportent comme en france lorsqu'ils voyagent.........;
C'est dangereux car nous devons certainement pas montré un sentiment de supériorité, d'inégalité envers les personnes croisées sur notre chemin, et au contraire s'impregner de leurs cultures, coutumes, car n'oublions que c'est nous qui arrivons chez non le contraire.
Et le voyage est tellement plus beau, plus enrichissant quand on vit de la meme facon que les gens, de pouvoir leurs montrer que noussommes capables de faire les mêmes choses que eux, et que nous sommes tous égaux.
Et après on entendra parler de " je me suis fait arnaquer, ils ne pensent qu'à l'argent, ... "
Mais c'est nous même qui créons notre propre jugement, et l'on fait que récolter ce que l'on à semé. NOUS SOMMES TOUS EGAUX, fait de sang et de chair..........
Je pense que nous devons pas créer de changement suite à notre passage, mais simplement remplir les têtes de souvenir pour tout le monde.
A mediter
Les voyages forment la jeunesse.
tout juste, mais il n'y a pas que les francais qui se comporte comme ca à l'etranger ( au contraire meme, je trouve la majorité des frenchies plutot sociables ), mais ca c'est un autre débat ...
Pour les differences d'avis sur le forum, c'est vrai que c'est assez pourri sur certains topics 🤪 qui m'ont obligé a deserter le site pour quelques temps ... la rançon du succes
oui c'est sur mais je parle pour la majorité............;
Et a vrai dire très sont les francais que j'ai croisé en chemin, avec qui
j'ai voulu partagerdes choses, meme après avoir essayé.
je trouve les anglais beaucoup plus ouvert, mais après comme on dit cela depend .........
Bref mais que que l'on soit de n'importe quelle pays, on ne doit jamais se sentir supérieur, il meme arrivé certaine fois d'hesiter à sortir mon numérique,
car meme si ces moments était fabuleux, je préfère mille fois qu'ils restent dans ma tete et dans celle de qui j'ai partagé ce moment, que de l'inscrire dans mon appareil, genre c'est bon je ne vais pas l'oublier, et troubler ce moment par le flash et tout ce qui s'en suit ..........
Les voyages forment la jeunesse.
nan c'est sur, je n'ai rien à apprendre aux autres surtout pas à 23 ans mais
c'est sur que les choses ne changeront pas, simplement jsute un peu dégouté de voir que des locaux peuvent tout le monde dans le meme panier ..........
Je ne l'incvente pas c'est ce que j'ai vécu, et maintenant je sais que je peux compter sur des personnes à plusieurs milliers de km, peut etre avec de la chance.
Mais c'est sur de voir des trekkeurs ou "cosmonaute" (habillé de goretex de haut en bas) passé devant soit balancer des bonbons et des stylos à des gamins, je ne pense pas que c'est la meilleure des choses ...............
Mais comme je l'ai dit plus haut, chacun est libre de faire ce qu'il veut, mais cela vaut la peine de réflechir à ses actions, surtout quand on est pas chez NOUS.......
Mais après reflexion, je pense que l'on peut partager beaucoup plus en se remettant en cause quelque fois.
C'est un peu comme le pseudo-humanitaire, la personne qui rentre d'un mois passé dans je ne sais quel pays, et qui dit je reviens d'un mois passé avec les locaux, et au final, il ne sais meme pas à quoi va aboutir son projet, a court termes ou à long termes, peut d'importance .........
C'est tout c'est comme cela, mais ca me chier de me dire qu'il y a des gens qui ne pense qu'à eux avant les autres, et qu'il ne sont pas forcement dans le plus grand besoin ..............
Et d'avoir croisé des personnes agissant comme cela me dit que ce n'est pas cela qui fera changer les chose, les opinions, en tout cas ce n'est pas la bonne facon, enfin je le pense.
Je ne me dit pas moralisateur, mais juste j'éspère peut etre que certaine personnes réagiront ou prendriont conscience de leurs actes passés .....
Parce que je crois que beaucoup de personnes ne se pose pas la question essentielle
Que va devenir l'avis des personnes que j'ai pu croiser ?????????
Il n'y a que les cons qui change pas d'avis,
et à part cela j'éspère quend meme qu'il y aura un jour du nouveau sous le soleil ..........
Les voyages forment la jeunesse.
Ce que tu racontes pourrait être intéressant si tu ne mélangeais pas tout. Tu parles de plein de choses en même temps, en allant de ton coup de gueule sur le fait que manifestement certains n'étaient pas d'accord avec toi sur le forum, aux Français qui se comportent comme en France à l'étranger (contrairement aux Anglais...hmmh...tu devrais demander à certains Espagnols ce qu'ils en pensent), et à ce que tu appelles le pseudo humanitaire.
Très franchement, je ne comprends pas très bien où tu veux en venir, surtout dans ton dernier message. Tu dis une chose et son contraire à chaque phrase. Peut-être faudrait-il clarifier un peu ta position.
Pour finir, je répondrais à certains de tes points :
Les gouts et les couleurs ne se discutent pas .............
Pas d'accord! Les goûts et les couleurs ne se jugent pas arbitrairement mais peuvent se discuter. Sinon à quoi servirait d'avoir un débat.
Et le voyage est tellement plus beau, plus enrichissant quand on vit de la meme facon que les gens, de pouvoir leurs montrer que noussommes capables de faire les mêmes choses que eux, et que nous sommes tous égaux.
Je ne pense pas qu'on puisse vivre de la même façon que les gens pendant un voyage. Quand tu n'es là que pour quelques temps, en sachant qu'avec ton joli passeport français, il y a peu de pays qui te refuseront l'entrée, tu ne peux pas vivre la même vie qu'un certain nombre de gens. Et je ne comprends d'ailleurs pas très bien l'intérêt de vouloir leur montrer qu'on est capable de faire les mêmes choses qu'eux.
Je pense que nous devons pas créer de changement suite à notre passage, mais simplement remplir les têtes de souvenir pour tout le monde.
Je ne vois pas en quoi créer du changement est négatif. Doit-on rester passif et ne jamais rien dire parce que chacun fait comme il veut? Je ne suis pas d'accord. J'ai souvent discuté avec des gens à l'étranger car je ne comprenais pas certaines choses qu'ils pouvaient faire ou dire. Provoquer un débat n'a rien de négatif.
Dois-je accepter quand je suis dans certaines régions de Russie de me taire quand un homme parle et de me contenter de faire la bouffe parce que je suis une femme ? Tu me répondras sans doute que si cela ne me plait pas, je ne suis pas obligée d'y aller. Oui, mais voilà, il y a plein d'autres choses qui me plaisent donc j'y vais quand même. Je me plie à un certain nombre de règles locales parce que je suis chez eux et que cela parait logique. Mais cela ne m'empêche en rien de lancer le débat quand je ne suis pas d'accord avec les gens sur place. Je ne vois rien de négatif à cela.
Quand je rencontre des voyageurs en France, je suis toujours ravie de débattre avec eux de certaines moeurs françaises. Et je ne considère pas que c'est un manque de respect ou de la condescendance de leur part.
Très franchement, je ne comprends pas très bien où tu veux en venir, surtout dans ton dernier message. Tu dis une chose et son contraire à chaque phrase. Peut-être faudrait-il clarifier un peu ta position.
Pour finir, je répondrais à certains de tes points :
Les gouts et les couleurs ne se discutent pas .............
Pas d'accord! Les goûts et les couleurs ne se jugent pas arbitrairement mais peuvent se discuter. Sinon à quoi servirait d'avoir un débat.
Et le voyage est tellement plus beau, plus enrichissant quand on vit de la meme facon que les gens, de pouvoir leurs montrer que noussommes capables de faire les mêmes choses que eux, et que nous sommes tous égaux.
Je ne pense pas qu'on puisse vivre de la même façon que les gens pendant un voyage. Quand tu n'es là que pour quelques temps, en sachant qu'avec ton joli passeport français, il y a peu de pays qui te refuseront l'entrée, tu ne peux pas vivre la même vie qu'un certain nombre de gens. Et je ne comprends d'ailleurs pas très bien l'intérêt de vouloir leur montrer qu'on est capable de faire les mêmes choses qu'eux.
Je pense que nous devons pas créer de changement suite à notre passage, mais simplement remplir les têtes de souvenir pour tout le monde.
Je ne vois pas en quoi créer du changement est négatif. Doit-on rester passif et ne jamais rien dire parce que chacun fait comme il veut? Je ne suis pas d'accord. J'ai souvent discuté avec des gens à l'étranger car je ne comprenais pas certaines choses qu'ils pouvaient faire ou dire. Provoquer un débat n'a rien de négatif.
Dois-je accepter quand je suis dans certaines régions de Russie de me taire quand un homme parle et de me contenter de faire la bouffe parce que je suis une femme ? Tu me répondras sans doute que si cela ne me plait pas, je ne suis pas obligée d'y aller. Oui, mais voilà, il y a plein d'autres choses qui me plaisent donc j'y vais quand même. Je me plie à un certain nombre de règles locales parce que je suis chez eux et que cela parait logique. Mais cela ne m'empêche en rien de lancer le débat quand je ne suis pas d'accord avec les gens sur place. Je ne vois rien de négatif à cela.
Quand je rencontre des voyageurs en France, je suis toujours ravie de débattre avec eux de certaines moeurs françaises. Et je ne considère pas que c'est un manque de respect ou de la condescendance de leur part.
NOUS SOMMES TOUS EGAUX, fait de sang et de chair...
Ce sont tes voeux pour l'année 2009 ?
Ce sont tes voeux pour l'année 2009 ?
tout d'abord il est vrai que je mélange un peutout, surment du au fait que ce genre de débat me passionne et que je n'ai que très peu de temps en ce moment pour régir.
Tu me diras de le prendre mais la c'est pas franchement possible.
cela fait quelques temps que je reflechie à cela, surtout suite à mon premier voyage en Afrique.
J'ai vraiment été choqué de voir comment certaines personnes pouvait t'aborder parce que tu es blanc.
Quand tu cherches a vouloir partager des choses avec la population, il est bien difficile de leurs oublier que tu es blanc, mais avec le temps la patience les "débats" j'u suis arrivé, enfin je crois.
Maintenant j'ai effectué d'autre voyage et j'ai toujours ressenti se sentiment, et de voir les actes de certaine personnes j'ai tout de suite compris pourquoi les gens réagissait de ctte facon.
Et ils ont raisons car à leurs place, je ferais sans doute la meme chose.
Maintenant pour le pseudo humanitaire, et oui cela existe.
Moi qui travaille dans le sénergies renouvelable, je ne te dis pas quel fut mon etonnement de voir au Zanskar, à Leh plus particulièrement une installations de 150 metres carré de solaire dans une école de réfugié.
Le fait est que cette installation ne fonctionnait pas.
Réalisation d'uen ONG américaine qui ne se préocupe pas de savoir si l'installation fonctionne, mais simplement se dit ONg parce qu'elle est capable de financer ce genre d'installation.
Et cela touche plus ou moins tout les domaines.
Maintenat c'est clair que ce n'est pas à nous de dire si les gens doivent changer, ou de leurs dire qu'elle opinion ils doivent se faire de nous.
Je dis simplement qu'il y en a qui abuse "trekeurs ci dessu".
De plus je pense qu'en montrantq ue l'on peut faire les meme chose qu'eux c'est à dire vivre comme eux, je pense que cela peut leurs montré que l'on est pas si différents qu'eux contrairement à ce qu'ils pensent, image donné par les medias et certainement confirmée par certaine personne .
Les voyages forment la jeunesse.
J'ai vraiment été choqué de voir comment certaines personnes pouvait t'aborder parce que tu es blanc.
Quand tu cherches a vouloir partager des choses avec la population, il est bien difficile de leurs oublier que tu es blanc, mais avec le temps la patience les "débats" j'u suis arrivé, enfin je crois.
Il est difficile voire impossible de partager véritablement quelque chose de sincère avec les populations rencontrées. D'ailleurs, pour moi, cette quête est une douce utopie bercée de romantisme.
Il est difficile voire impossible de partager véritablement quelque chose de sincère avec les populations rencontrées. D'ailleurs, pour moi, cette quête est une douce utopie bercée de romantisme.
peut etre pour toi, mais pas pour moi.
sinon je ne serais s'y engagé dans ce genre de débat,
et je peux te dire que c'est possible.
je garde contact avec grand nombre de personne que je retourne voir régulièrement.
Et c'est sur que si tu vois les choses comme cela on peut se foutre de beaucoup de chose ou de personne.
Si tu crois que c'est de l'utopie, ....... alors cela ne sert à rien de rencontré et partager des choses des personnes d'autre culture.
Les voyages forment la jeunesse.
Si tu crois que c'est de l'utopie, ....... alors cela ne sert à rien de rencontré et partager des choses des personnes d'autre culture.
Tout dépend de son vécu, de son expérience et, in fine, de ce que l'on recherche. Après avoir travaillé au Costa Rica, en Indonésie et ensuite à la Martinique, je suis convaincu que les relations sincères sont biaisées et ne sont qu'une illusion.
Tout dépend de son vécu, de son expérience et, in fine, de ce que l'on recherche. Après avoir travaillé au Costa Rica, en Indonésie et ensuite à la Martinique, je suis convaincu que les relations sincères sont biaisées et ne sont qu'une illusion.
peut etre parce que tu était un expat, et que tu était régi la bas par l'argent.
C'est tout la le problème.
et je peut te promettre qu'en un mois tu serais surpris de voir comment sont les gens si tu crois et fait confiance en eux.
Je reviens d'un mois au brésil partit de sau paulo pour aller à fortaleza, et nous avons passé simplement 2 nuits dans les poussadas.
Le reste du temps nous étions acceullis par les locaux.
Et en remerciement nous préparions un plat à la francaise.
Et la je peut te promettre que tu partages bien plus de chose que tu ne l'imagine.😉
Les voyages forment la jeunesse.
peut etre parce que tu était un expat, et que tu était régi la bas par l'argent. C'est tout la le problème.
Wow voila un rapide raccourci. Dans le même genre, je peux affirmer qu'à 24 ans tu es plein d'illusion et sans expérience. Agaçant, non ?
En Martinique, j'ai mis ma fille dans l'école publique près de chez moi et ma famille et moi étions les seuls blancs de notre lotissement où vivait des Noirs avec des professions libérales, cadres... A la Martinique, mon salaire était à peine plus élevé que celui que je touche à Paris. J'ai tout fait pour "m'intégrer". Cela ne change rien. Trop de barrières nous séparent.
Wow voila un rapide raccourci. Dans le même genre, je peux affirmer qu'à 24 ans tu es plein d'illusion et sans expérience. Agaçant, non ?
En Martinique, j'ai mis ma fille dans l'école publique près de chez moi et ma famille et moi étions les seuls blancs de notre lotissement où vivait des Noirs avec des professions libérales, cadres... A la Martinique, mon salaire était à peine plus élevé que celui que je touche à Paris. J'ai tout fait pour "m'intégrer". Cela ne change rien. Trop de barrières nous séparent.
Je reviens d'un mois au brésil partit de sau paulo pour aller à fortaleza, et nous avons passé simplement 2 nuits dans les poussadas.
Et tu crois qu'après deux nuits tu as véritablement partagé quelque chose ? Soit tu es naïf soit tu manques totalement de respect aux Brésiliens en croyant qu'en deux journées tu as pu tisser quelque chose de concret.
Et tu crois qu'après deux nuits tu as véritablement partagé quelque chose ? Soit tu es naïf soit tu manques totalement de respect aux Brésiliens en croyant qu'en deux journées tu as pu tisser quelque chose de concret.
Je crois que tu as mal compris ce que j'ecrivais.
tampis c'est pas grave, peut etre que je suis ignorants.
Moi je sais que c'est possible et je n'ai jamais manqué de respect au bresilien et à qui ce soit.
Je sais que cela est possible et je ne vais paste narrer mon voyage et comment les choses se sont faites.
mainenant une choses dont je suis sur, c'est qu'ils faut en avoir envis et c'est pas en réagissant comme tu le fais que tu y arriveras.
Tu as raions je suis peut etre ignorants mais d'un coté c'est peut etre cela qui fait que les choses se sont passées comme cela.
Pour info, une poussada est une auberge de jeunesse, donc a part des étrangers ce n'est pasla que tu rencontres des bresiliens.
Un hamac suffit pour dormir ou tu veut, mais quand tu le veux.Dés fois il faut savoir forcer les rencontres et comme on dit on à rien sans rien.
Il est vrai qu'il me reste encore beaucoup de chose à vivre, et très franchement c'est sur qu'en réagisant comme tu le fais, tu doid trouver souvent des portes fermée sur ton chemin.
La différence est la je pense.
Et tu sais c'est pas parce que il y une barrière sur ton chemin que tu dois t'arréter, tu peus passer au dessus de la barrière mais encore une fois il faut la volonté.
Et j'ai simplement émis une hypothèse, rien de plus ........
Mais c'est sur qu'avec un raisonnement, les choses doivent etre vite limitées, car pour moi une chose en entraine une autre.
Les voyages forment la jeunesse.
Je sais que cela est possible
Je ne dis pas que c'est impossible mais combien de cas marqués par la nécessité ou l'intérêt par rapport à ceux par la sincérité ?
Je ne dis pas que c'est impossible mais combien de cas marqués par la nécessité ou l'intérêt par rapport à ceux par la sincérité ?
Pourquoi tiens-tu à ce point là à leur prouver que vous êtes égaux. Parce qu'ils se considèrent comme inférieurs ? Ou parce que tu te considères comme inférieur ?
Il est difficile voire impossible de partager véritablement quelque chose de sincère avec les populations rencontrées. D'ailleurs, pour moi, cette quête est une douce utopie bercée de romantisme.
Si c est ce que tu penses, comme je te plains. Difficile soit mais je peux te dire que j ai rencontre un jeune russe dans le transsib et qui m a heberge par la suite, je le considere lui, sa femme et son fils comme ma famille russe. J apprends le russe et lui le francais, enfin j essaie.... Une chose est sur je vais retourner les voir. Cela fait deja 3 ans que nous nous sommes rencontre et la prochaine etape apres un rapide retour en france ce sera la russie. je ne te parlerais pas de nathan et shila un couple d indien que j ai rencontre grace a leur assoc a varanasi et avec qui j ai passe un peu de temps et que je suis revenu voir des que je repassais dans les parages. Si a ton age tu n as jamais connu ca. peut etre faudrait il te poser des questions dans la facon que tu as d envisager ton rapport avec les autres.
bons vents et bons voyages.. et bonne annee aussi
Si c est ce que tu penses, comme je te plains. Difficile soit mais je peux te dire que j ai rencontre un jeune russe dans le transsib et qui m a heberge par la suite, je le considere lui, sa femme et son fils comme ma famille russe. J apprends le russe et lui le francais, enfin j essaie.... Une chose est sur je vais retourner les voir. Cela fait deja 3 ans que nous nous sommes rencontre et la prochaine etape apres un rapide retour en france ce sera la russie. je ne te parlerais pas de nathan et shila un couple d indien que j ai rencontre grace a leur assoc a varanasi et avec qui j ai passe un peu de temps et que je suis revenu voir des que je repassais dans les parages. Si a ton age tu n as jamais connu ca. peut etre faudrait il te poser des questions dans la facon que tu as d envisager ton rapport avec les autres.
bons vents et bons voyages.. et bonne annee aussi
Heureux pour toi que tu aies le romantisme nécessaire pour t'imaginer que ces relations sont véritablement sincères de part et d'autres.
Moi aussi, quand j'avais 28 ou 30 ans, j'ai eu des "amis" dans les pays où j'ai vécu... des amis qui a un moment ou à un autre me demandèrent de l'aide avouant de facto l'intérêt qu'ils portaient véritablement à notre relation. Et je les ai aidés. Et je ne leur en veux pas. Mais après quelques retours à la réalité, j'ai compris comment fonctionne le monde... et le romantisme a fait place au cynisme.
Heureux pour toi que tu aies le romantisme nécessaire pour t'imaginer que ces relations sont véritablement sincères de part et d'autres.
je pourrais te retourner la pareille en ce qui concerne les amities que tu as nouees en france...... Comment peux tu affirmer que les tiennes non plus ne sont pas biaisees ???? tu lis dans les ames ????? eclaires moi de ta lumiere
je pourrais te retourner la pareille en ce qui concerne les amities que tu as nouees en france...... Comment peux tu affirmer que les tiennes non plus ne sont pas biaisees ???? tu lis dans les ames ????? eclaires moi de ta lumiere
rrais te retourner la pareille en ce qui concerne les amities que tu as nouees en france......
Comment peux tu affirmer que les tiennes non plus ne sont pas biaisees ????
Parce qu'avant que je ne considère quelqu'un comme un ami, il me faut du temps... j'ai pas mal de copains... mais seulement deux ou trois amis.
Parce qu'avant que je ne considère quelqu'un comme un ami, il me faut du temps... j'ai pas mal de copains... mais seulement deux ou trois amis.
Parce qu'avant que je ne considère quelqu'un comme un ami, il me faut du temps... j'ai pas mal de copains... mais seulement deux ou trois amis.
tout a fait d accord avec toi. je fonctionne de la meme facon. c est bien pour cela que je me suis permis de te parler de ma "famille russe" et de ce couple d indien.
tout a fait d accord avec toi. je fonctionne de la meme facon. c est bien pour cela que je me suis permis de te parler de ma "famille russe" et de ce couple d indien.
en réponse: "Juste un petit mess pour dire que je suis outré de voir comment certaine personne pense avoir raison quand elles ont tord et inversement."
salut, ..et comment sais-tu lorsque quelqu'un à tort ou pas? tu détiens la vérité donc? D'autre part, c'est très sympa de faire de belles rencontres en voyage, mais ils faut les replacer dans leur contexte. Elles restent dans la plupart des cas très superficielles, courtes et souvent inégales. Les gens rencontrées dans de nombreux pays sont avant tout flattées par le fait qu'un étranger venant d'un pays"riche" s'intéressent à eux. Moi ça m'est complètement égal ce type d'échange fait de béatitude. Je n'y vois pas matière à m'auto-discerner un label de "bon voyageur" sous prétexte que j'ai baragouiné 3 mots en souriant béatement à des types que j'ai miré quelques jours dans un décor de carte postale. Je préfère de loin en voyageant dns la mesure du possible donner un max de boulot aux gens que je trouve sympas et les payer sans pinailler en conséquence. J'ai d'autre part noté que tu remerciais tes modestes hébergeurs brésiliens en leur cuisinant chez eux des plats "à la française"! très bien comme initiative! mais on peut te demander qui avait fourni les ingrédients?
salut, ..et comment sais-tu lorsque quelqu'un à tort ou pas? tu détiens la vérité donc? D'autre part, c'est très sympa de faire de belles rencontres en voyage, mais ils faut les replacer dans leur contexte. Elles restent dans la plupart des cas très superficielles, courtes et souvent inégales. Les gens rencontrées dans de nombreux pays sont avant tout flattées par le fait qu'un étranger venant d'un pays"riche" s'intéressent à eux. Moi ça m'est complètement égal ce type d'échange fait de béatitude. Je n'y vois pas matière à m'auto-discerner un label de "bon voyageur" sous prétexte que j'ai baragouiné 3 mots en souriant béatement à des types que j'ai miré quelques jours dans un décor de carte postale. Je préfère de loin en voyageant dns la mesure du possible donner un max de boulot aux gens que je trouve sympas et les payer sans pinailler en conséquence. J'ai d'autre part noté que tu remerciais tes modestes hébergeurs brésiliens en leur cuisinant chez eux des plats "à la française"! très bien comme initiative! mais on peut te demander qui avait fourni les ingrédients?
Peut etra as tu eu des deceptions, mais faut pas tout mettre dans le meme panier.
Si tu est ouvert, les gens le sont ........ et j'ai rarement croisé quelqu'un qui ne me répondait pas, lorsque je lui demandais une infos, un renseignements, .........
Ils faut s'interesser a la personne humaine et non la laisser de coter.
Il faut aussi avoir l'envis de découvrir, de montrer quel'on est intéssé, mais quand tu me dis
que tu n'était pas du tout integré, c'est de ta faute et non celle des autres. C'est toi qui arrive chez eux,
et forcement à toi de créer tes liens, et non le contraire.
Réflechi mais j'ai vraiment du mal à croire que lorsque tu pars pour un bon bout de temps, ton cas si tu esparti travailler tu ne puisse pas te faire des copians voir des amis en qui tu auras confiance.
Les voyages forment la jeunesse.
Je n'ai pas dit que je savais qui avait tord ou raison, mais je pense que j'ai le droit de dire qu'un trkkeur d'environ 40 ans qui balance des bonbons à des gamins comme à des animaux, je pense qu'il ai raison.
Il est la pour son propre intéret.
Bref
je ne medercerne rien du tout mais je dit qu'il est dangereux de ragir comme cela, et qu'il faut faire attention à ce que l'on fait.
Autre exemple donné de l'argent au enfants qui ont faim et qui vienne te demander de l'argent pour manger.
Il ne faut pas donner d'argent, mais simplement leurs acheter à manger.
De toute facon l'argent ne sera par pour lui.
Pour la bouffe francaise, au bresil pour faire une salade et une quiche lorraine, tu trouve ce qu'il faut, et ca ne coute pas très cher.
Et c'est bien sur moi qui ai payé en remerciement de leurs acceuil, et je ne vois pas ou est le mal.
Ensore une fois ceres il ya des rencontres superficiel, mais pas toute, et heureusement d'ailleurs .........;
Les voyages forment la jeunesse.
Moi ça m'est complètement égal ce type d'échange fait de béatitude. Je n'y vois pas matière à m'auto-discerner un label de "bon voyageur" sous prétexte que j'ai baragouiné 3 mots en souriant béatement à des types que j'ai miré quelques jours dans un décor de carte postale.
LOL
La façon tu l'exprimes me fait sourire mais c'est tout à fait ça.
LOL
La façon tu l'exprimes me fait sourire mais c'est tout à fait ça.
Peut etra as tu eu des deceptions
Peut-être est-ce toi qui n'en a pas encore eu et ne te rend pas compte de la superficialité de ces relations ?
Peut-être est-ce toi qui n'en a pas encore eu et ne te rend pas compte de la superficialité de ces relations ?
...mais nous voyageons tous pour notre propre intérêt!
"un trekkeur d'environ 40 ans qui balance des bonbons à un gamin..."
soit "un gros bourge" quoi! et pourquoi ce type ne donnerait-il pas simplement un bonbon pourquoi "balancer"? tes posts sont un tantinet emprunt de racisme social😉 En quoi ce geste serait-il plus répréhensible que celui du soit-disant pauvre routard fauché qui fait preuve de radinerie et de négociations à tout crin avec les parents de ces mêmes gosses?
"un trekkeur d'environ 40 ans qui balance des bonbons à un gamin..."
soit "un gros bourge" quoi! et pourquoi ce type ne donnerait-il pas simplement un bonbon pourquoi "balancer"? tes posts sont un tantinet emprunt de racisme social😉 En quoi ce geste serait-il plus répréhensible que celui du soit-disant pauvre routard fauché qui fait preuve de radinerie et de négociations à tout crin avec les parents de ces mêmes gosses?
Si tu le dis .............................
je ne vois pas les choses de cette façon, mais de n'importe quelle manière ce sont pas des choses qui se font!
Imagine une personne qui balancent des bonbons par terre à tes gamins " genre prenez les bonbons et faite pas chier, laissé moi passé" je n'apelle pas cela donner, peut etre n'avons nous pas la meme definition de donner, d'offrir
Je ne comprend pas comment l'on peut cautionner ces gestes, mais apparament cela à l'air normal.
Désolé d'etre choqué par cela ..................;;
Quand au racismesocial, très franchement si j'en vient à me poser ces questions, il y a peut etre des raisons .........
Les voyages forment la jeunesse.
Je sais que non et je n'ai pas à donner mes raisons mais très franchement je sais que je peux faire confier compter sur ces personne quoiqu'il arrive et je ne serais peut etre jamais en mesure de les acceuillir comme ils m'ont accueillis.
Et c'est bien la ma désolation.
cela me fait haluciner comment vous ete cerner pas ce lien qui vous tient à l'argent mais penser vous que l'on peut traverser un continent sans argent ?????
Quel qui soit ?????
De plus comment pouvez vous savoir le genre de relations que j'ai et que j'entretien à ce jour ??????
Vous ne pouver comparer ce que vous avez vécu avec ce que les autres vives
Et si vous preferer faire travailler les personnes pour leurs donner de l'argent, pourquoi ne travailler vous pas avec???
Les voyages forment la jeunesse.
en réponse à "Je pense que nous devons pas créer de changement suite à notre passage, mais simplement remplir les têtes de souvenir pour tout le monde" Alors la solution pour ne pas "corrompre" ce bel équilibre serait de... ne pas y aller du tout. Il faudrait si nous voulons garder ce beau jardin à l'état "zoologique"... rester à la maison???
Tu parles "d'égalité", mais les types à Leh ou ailleurs qui deviennent tes amis pour quelques heures ou quelques jours ont une espérance de vie qui ne dépassera pas 45 ans... toi, tu pourras devenir on te le souhaite, un bon centenaire! Eux, ils doivent survivre au jour le jour en espérant qu'une calamité naturelle ne viendra pas s'abattre demain sur les champs ou les troupeaux... toi un travail régulier ou des indemnités t'attendent à ton retour. Ils ont un chamane pour unique médecin, alors que toi toute ta vie, tu as un compte ouvert sur toutes les médecines les plus sophistiquées avec la Sécurité Sociale etc... de quelle égalité parles-tu au juste? de celle qui nous envoûte au bout du monde pendant quelques semaines estivales? Crois-tu d'autre part, qu'il n'y a que des choses négatives pour ces populations à nous côtoyer et que l'échange n'est bon que dans un seul sens? pourquoi ne devraient-elles pas changer aussi et apprendre de toi? quitte pour nous à devoir restreindre notre beau jardin...
Tu parles "d'égalité", mais les types à Leh ou ailleurs qui deviennent tes amis pour quelques heures ou quelques jours ont une espérance de vie qui ne dépassera pas 45 ans... toi, tu pourras devenir on te le souhaite, un bon centenaire! Eux, ils doivent survivre au jour le jour en espérant qu'une calamité naturelle ne viendra pas s'abattre demain sur les champs ou les troupeaux... toi un travail régulier ou des indemnités t'attendent à ton retour. Ils ont un chamane pour unique médecin, alors que toi toute ta vie, tu as un compte ouvert sur toutes les médecines les plus sophistiquées avec la Sécurité Sociale etc... de quelle égalité parles-tu au juste? de celle qui nous envoûte au bout du monde pendant quelques semaines estivales? Crois-tu d'autre part, qu'il n'y a que des choses négatives pour ces populations à nous côtoyer et que l'échange n'est bon que dans un seul sens? pourquoi ne devraient-elles pas changer aussi et apprendre de toi? quitte pour nous à devoir restreindre notre beau jardin...
Peut etra as tu eu des deceptions, mais faut pas tout mettre dans le meme panier.
Si tu est ouvert, les gens le sont ........ et j'ai rarement croisé quelqu'un qui ne me répondait pas, lorsque je lui demandais une infos, un renseignements, .........
Ils faut s'interesser a la personne humaine et non la laisser de coter.
Il faut aussi avoir l'envis de découvrir, de montrer quel'on est intéssé, mais quand tu me dis
que tu n'était pas du tout integré, c'est de ta faute et non celle des autres. C'est toi qui arrive chez eux,
et forcement à toi de créer tes liens, et non le contraire.
Réflechi mais j'ai vraiment du mal à croire que lorsque tu pars pour un bon bout de temps, ton cas si tu esparti travailler tu ne puisse pas te faire des copians voir des amis en qui tu auras confiance.
tu as du te tromper de personnes. je ne pense pas que ce message m etait adresse. Si ? desole pour mon dernier message ecrit en majuscules y a du avoir un bug.😊
bons vents et bons voyages
tu as du te tromper de personnes. je ne pense pas que ce message m etait adresse. Si ? desole pour mon dernier message ecrit en majuscules y a du avoir un bug.😊
bons vents et bons voyages
J'ai mal pour toi, de voir comment tu vois les chose, et je comprend que tu es du mal à t'integrer.
De considerer la planète comme un jardin zoologique .............. et parle de racisme sociale.
Je le comprend et qu'en je vois ton profil faut pas aller chercher plus loin.
En tout cas une chose est sur c'est que à 49 ans tu sois capable de réagir comme cela, tu as raison vive le frime.
Je pense que tu est plutot le genre de personne à partir et à se soucier de son petit confort avant tout.
Je laisse tomber la discussion car je sais que ce n'est pas avec des personnes comme toi que l'on peutchanger, réagir
et je pense auusi que tu aurais pu etre ce trekkeur, que j'ai croisé .............. tu as tout à fait les meme propos.🏴☠️
Les voyages forment la jeunesse.
Salut, ..tu n'as rien compris à mon message. Tu avais ouvert ce topic pour dénoncer l'intolérance de certains alors que de bout en bout tu n'as fait qu'assener ta morale culpabilisatrice et caricaturer les propos des autres. Tu n'as pas envie d'échanger mais plutôt d'être conforté dans tes préjugés...au-delà de la béatitude, le vide!
😕. Tant pis pour la discussion
bon voyage
Laissons faire les années...
Simplement j'aimerais faire prendre conscience de quelque chose, et je n'ai caricaturer. Ce que je raconte est vrai.
Tors ou pas, c'est pas le plus important, je voit les choses suite à ce que j'ai vécu, toi par rapport à ce que tu as vécu.
Peut etre que je me trompe mais j'y crois et je sais que pour le moment je pense comme cela.
Maintenant cela me désole de voir des réactions qu sont pour moi une question de respect, de maturité, d'intélligence, et
pour humaine.
En tout cas j'éspèe vraiment qu'un jour tu croises quelqu'un qui te fasse repenser à ce je t'ai dit ........
Je suis peut etre jeune, mais j'ai les pieds sur terre et je sais que beaucoup de chose sont possible quand on y croi 😉
Les voyages forment la jeunesse.
Cela ne me dit toujours pas pourquoi tu veux absolument prouver à ceux que tu rencontres que vous êtes égaux. Lequel d'entre vous se sent inférieur ?
Mais je n'ai rien à prouver.
Tu n'as pas compris.
Je veux simplement partager des choses avec les différentes personnes rencontrées, certes certaine personne
ne seront que de simples connaissance avec lesquels je ne pourrais garder contacts, mais cela dit avec d'autre oui.
Je veus simplement leurs montrer que malgré le message reçu par les media, sque l'europe, en autre la france car je suis francais, et une partie du peuple peut montrer quel'on porte de l'interet a leurs pays, que je suis intéresser et aussi leurs faire comprendre que la vie en france n'est pas non plus forcement si belle, que nous sommes pas si heureux que cela.
Beaucoup de personnes ne savent meme plus pourquoi elles vivent, sont enterrées dans un traintrain journalier, et je ressens l'envis de vivre, de découvrir de partager.
Maintenant je ne me suis jamais senti supérieur à personne ni meme au européens.
nous avons une chance de pouvoir parti qusiment partout, etje trouve qu'il est dommage de donner une mauvaise de soi,
des francais de notre culture et pour moi, j'a réelement envis de voyager de cette façon, de découvrir tous d'un pays, d'une culture, destraditons et je pense que c'est en vivant, avec, auprès du peuple que cela est réelemnt possible.
J'ai toujour tout partager quand j'arrivais chez quelqu'un, comme il le font avec nous.
Maitenant je ne vois qui pourrait avoir un sentiment de supériorié.
Meme si nous avons beaucoup de richesses, une riche société, la possibilité de faire ce que l'on veut, une certaine liberté, nous avons beaucoup à apprendre d'autre peuple.
Je veus montrer que si l'on vit de façon différente, nous pouvons vivre de la meme facon, partager les meme moments de bonheurs, .......
mais je pense quand meme que cetaine personnes puisse se sentir supérieur parce ce qu'ils ont de l'argent dans leus sacs,
et qu'avec de l'argent dans certain pays on peut tout avoir.
Les voyages forment la jeunesse.
Je ne parlais pas de sentiment de supériorité mais d'inferiorité, ce qui n'est pas tout à fait la même chose.
Tu ne cesses d'expliquer que tu veux prouver aux populations (au peuple, pour reprendre tes mots) que tu rencontres que les Européens, contrairement à ce qu'ils montrent, ne leur sont en rien supérieur, que vous êtes tous égaux. Ca me donne légèrement l'impression de retrouver des relents de paternalisme.
nous avons une chance de pouvoir parti qusiment partout, etje trouve qu'il est dommage de donner une mauvaise de soi, des francais de notre culture
Je ne vois pas pourquoi on devrait se sentir responsable des imbéciles. Si des gens donnent une mauvaise image des Français à l'étranger, c'est triste mais ce n'est certainement pas à moi d'accourir auprès des populations locales pour leur dire "Mais non, mais non, c'est pas vrai tout ça, les Français sont des gens très bien, ne croyez pas ce que vous voyez, moi je vous aime et je vous respecte et patati et patata".
Je veus montrer que si l'on vit de façon différente, nous pouvons vivre de la meme facon, partager les meme moments de bonheurs
L'égalité ne signifie pas l'assimilation totale. Nous pouvons certes partager des moments de bonheurs à peu près avec tout le monde sur terre, cela ne signifie pas pour autant que nous sommes pareils. Non, je ne pourrais pas vivre la vie d'au moins 80% de la population mondiale. Et une grande partie de la population ne pourrait pas vivre la mienne non plus. Je ne vois rien de grave à cela et je n'y vois pas non plus la moindre marque d'inégalité.
nous avons une chance de pouvoir parti qusiment partout, etje trouve qu'il est dommage de donner une mauvaise de soi, des francais de notre culture
Je ne vois pas pourquoi on devrait se sentir responsable des imbéciles. Si des gens donnent une mauvaise image des Français à l'étranger, c'est triste mais ce n'est certainement pas à moi d'accourir auprès des populations locales pour leur dire "Mais non, mais non, c'est pas vrai tout ça, les Français sont des gens très bien, ne croyez pas ce que vous voyez, moi je vous aime et je vous respecte et patati et patata".
Je veus montrer que si l'on vit de façon différente, nous pouvons vivre de la meme facon, partager les meme moments de bonheurs
L'égalité ne signifie pas l'assimilation totale. Nous pouvons certes partager des moments de bonheurs à peu près avec tout le monde sur terre, cela ne signifie pas pour autant que nous sommes pareils. Non, je ne pourrais pas vivre la vie d'au moins 80% de la population mondiale. Et une grande partie de la population ne pourrait pas vivre la mienne non plus. Je ne vois rien de grave à cela et je n'y vois pas non plus la moindre marque d'inégalité.
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Hi! It was totally by chance that I stumbled upon VoyageForum (an ad online and a story lol), and I’ve been reading some really old posts from 2011 about Thai massage schools—discussions on how to get by, accommodation, prices, etc. It reminded me of my own experience: I kept things simple by staying with a local family during my entire trip. I only shared all the expenses with them, which, I’ll admit, was super cheap… and I often traveled with them, which naturally opened a lot of doors for me. To start, at the school in Salaya, my Thai friend immediately connected me with Teacher Phong (the school’s mentor and teacher of teachers, a former monk). I was supposed to join a group session with other foreigners, but for some reason I don’t know, I got two days of private lessons for free with this expert… incredible! And on top of that, he loved France! It was an amazing experience. I "discovered" massage by chance—the Thai family just told me: "Try it, you’ll see!" (I’d had a pretty intense massage in the capital before 😅… but the next day, I felt unbelievably great!))
Every morning, I’d take a taxi (chosen by the Thai family at prices that beat all the competition) to this school—I’ve forgotten the name of the little village now… right in the heart of the countryside. Then, in the evenings, I’d keep practicing massage on all the family members… and they’d teach me Thai at the same time!))
Since then, I’ve practiced a bit, with lots of positive feedback. Following Teacher Phong’s advice—he thought my pressure was deep, firm, and precise—he strongly encouraged me to take this seriously.
I love Thailand so much. It’s a whole different way of living… and it’s a real blessing, even if I couldn’t live there full-time. Anyway, that was an unforgettable memory, and sometimes the Thai family and I still say hi—from 2011, 2013… right up to today!
Take care, everyone! !
Every morning, I’d take a taxi (chosen by the Thai family at prices that beat all the competition) to this school—I’ve forgotten the name of the little village now… right in the heart of the countryside. Then, in the evenings, I’d keep practicing massage on all the family members… and they’d teach me Thai at the same time!))
Since then, I’ve practiced a bit, with lots of positive feedback. Following Teacher Phong’s advice—he thought my pressure was deep, firm, and precise—he strongly encouraged me to take this seriously.
I love Thailand so much. It’s a whole different way of living… and it’s a real blessing, even if I couldn’t live there full-time. Anyway, that was an unforgettable memory, and sometimes the Thai family and I still say hi—from 2011, 2013… right up to today!
Take care, everyone! !
Hi everyone,
I’m Loulou, a French expat who’s been living in Southeast Asia for about fifteen years, currently in Phnom Penh, Cambodia. A passionate walker at heart, I’ve trekked in Nepal (Thorung La, Mardi Himal), India, Vietnam, and I’m still planning new hikes (Char Dham, Langtang, Annapurna).
I’ve just published my first travel journal, recounting three months of walking and encounters across India. A portion of the sales goes to an educational center I support in Kep, for children whose parents work in the salt marshes.
I’m also working on a second book about Nepal with a musician friend, focusing on the Mardi Himal trek—two independent perspectives on the same journey.
Happy to swap stories with you about the Himalayas, India, Southeast Asia, or just the urge to hit the road and walk far from home.
Safe travels,
Loulou
Hi everyone,
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"It seems to me that poverty would be less painful in the sun" wrote Aznavour...
Not sure...😕 Who can prove that people in hot countries are happier than others? What do you think?
Is it better to live in Montpellier than in Lille? Are the Pygmies happier than the Inuit? Are Canadians less happy than the people of Louisiana? Are there more French expats in hot countries?
And your travels? Do you choose your destinations based on the climate? Do you rejoice when a bit of sunshine appears?
Not sure...😕 Who can prove that people in hot countries are happier than others? What do you think?
Is it better to live in Montpellier than in Lille? Are the Pygmies happier than the Inuit? Are Canadians less happy than the people of Louisiana? Are there more French expats in hot countries?
And your travels? Do you choose your destinations based on the climate? Do you rejoice when a bit of sunshine appears?
Hi everyone, just this once I’m not posting for a travel story, but to share a thought for Venezuela.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed. Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed. Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
hi there
I’d like to invite you to discover my coastal province in central Vietnam: Quang Ngai.
This year, my province has really improved its infrastructure—mountains, countryside, and sea are all authentic here.
No harassers or thieves, and no Russians either.
A local lunch costs around 1 €.
A *** hotel room is about 25 €, and you can find hotels right on My Khe Beach.
We have a specialty: *banh xeo*—10 crepes for just 1.5 €.
You can rent motorbikes to explore the province and maybe visit the many ethnic minorities.
I live here—I’m not selling anything, but I can help if needed (my father-in-law is a traditional Vietnamese doctor and he’s very skilled).
We're planning to spend a month in Vietnam. Is hiring a guide helpful?
Hi everyone! 😉
I’m Typhaine, 35 years old. Five years ago, I left France for a solo round-the-world trip—no planes, just a van, hitchhiking, cycling, and even a canoe in the Amazon! Today, I work as a naturalist guide in Argentine Patagonia.
Wherever I go, my compass stays the same: observing and photographing wildlife, which I deeply admire and respect.
My project: I’d love to share this experience through a sustainable, authentic, and immersive nature tourism initiative. But to build something meaningful, I need to understand how other nature enthusiasts experience their own adventures.
If you:
Are over 20 years old
Have a true passion for Nature
Have already taken at least one trip lasting more than 3 nights (in your country or abroad) in your life
Then... would you have 5 to 7 minutes to help me by filling out this questionnaire? 🙂 »» https://forms.gle/y74ckkvN9TjrougLA
Promise: I’m not selling anything, this isn’t marketing. Your answers are 100% anonymous and will only help me shape this wild project. A huge thank you to everyone for your help and kindness! Looking forward to chatting in this thread 😛
(Dear admins, this is purely a collaborative effort for my project study, with no commercial purpose. Thank you so much for your support!)
Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
My project: I’d love to share this experience through a sustainable, authentic, and immersive nature tourism initiative. But to build something meaningful, I need to understand how other nature enthusiasts experience their own adventures.
If you:
Are over 20 years old
Have a true passion for Nature
Have already taken at least one trip lasting more than 3 nights (in your country or abroad) in your life
Then... would you have 5 to 7 minutes to help me by filling out this questionnaire? 🙂 »» https://forms.gle/y74ckkvN9TjrougLA
Promise: I’m not selling anything, this isn’t marketing. Your answers are 100% anonymous and will only help me shape this wild project. A huge thank you to everyone for your help and kindness! Looking forward to chatting in this thread 😛
(Dear admins, this is purely a collaborative effort for my project study, with no commercial purpose. Thank you so much for your support!)
Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
Hello everyone,
It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

...
It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

...
I spent 3 weeks in Bali last summer (+ 3 nights on Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java). So I wanted to see what ChatGPT could suggest for comparison...
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Hello everyone,
I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
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Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

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I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
.
.Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

...
I’ve kept the habit of blowing my nose in the sink and then washing my hands—a custom I picked up in India. Sometimes, non-travelers are shocked when they catch me in the act... 🤪
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
After taking a little trip around the world, I came back a few months ago with an idea in mind.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
As part of my Master’s thesis, I’m currently conducting a public survey on a topic that concerns all of us when planning a trip: artificial intelligence and the role of human contact in travel planning.
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
While browsing the forum to gather info for my upcoming trip to Thailand, I often see the terms "traveler," "great traveler," and also "tourist"—so what’s the nuance for you?
I've traveled quite a bit in Vietnam over the past few years—from the southern delta to bustling cities and even some small islands—but what really sticks with me is the north, the high mountains.
Up there, there's something different—maybe slower, more raw. The morning markets with ethnic groups, women in traditional clothes, the colors...
The stilt houses, kids following you and laughing for no reason, the terraced rice fields—it almost feels unreal at times, so vast and quiet, yet so human and simple.
You often hear that Sapa has become too touristy, and that's partly true, especially in the center. But as soon as you move a little farther away, everything changes quickly. The landscapes open up, encounters feel more natural, and you rediscover something truly authentic.
I think it's that contrast that struck me—the difference between what you imagine before going and what you actually discover when you take the time.
And you—what memory do you hold onto from Vietnam? A particular place that touched you more than others?
Hello,
We’re finalizing the plans for our upcoming trip to China in May 2025. The second-to-last stop will be in Zhangjiajie, where we’ve planned to stay for 2 full days before heading to Shanghai.
We’re traveling solo using local transport and have arranged to stay in the city of Zhangjiajie.
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
Hello 🙂
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
Hi everyone, here’s our itinerary. Arriving on the evening of December 13th. Departing on January 7th.
Thanks in advance for your tips and valuable feedback.
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Really disappointed with Costa Rica! Pura vida? The scam of the century!
(Costa Rica pure emptiness).
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
Hello,
Since the war between Russia and Ukraine, nothing is simple anymore for traveling to Belarus due to sanctions.
No more direct flights from the EU to Minsk.
Driving is a huge hassle, especially crossing through Poland at the only open border in Brest—you can wait 2, 3, or even 4 days just to get through by car.
The least painful driving option is to come via Lithuania and cross at the only open border, with a minimum wait time of 8 hours, sometimes up to 20 hours or more!!
Controls are very strict and annoying on both the Lithuanian and Belarusian sides. Avoid bringing alcohol, food, or cigarettes—everything will end up in the trash, especially when leaving Belarus for Vilnius, where the Lithuanians are tough, even with EU citizens.
The joy I once knew when visiting my wife in Minsk is sadly over—it’s now a real ordeal.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
Hi everyone!
I’m putting together our travel itinerary for Veneto at the end of April. And the more I look and research potential sites to visit, the more I find!
We’ll only be there for a week—my family and I—including 3 days in Venice. So we have to make some choices...
I plan to rent a car when we arrive in Venice and head straight to Bergamo, which would be our first stop. We’d leave the car at the airport when we return to Venice so we can explore the city at our leisure.
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
Now that the curtain has fallen on the past year, it’s time to see what’s happening around here.
It seems pretty quiet, but I’ll read more in detail later.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
I’ve visited the U.S. four times myself, including two long road trips. The last one was just this past August...
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
Hi there,
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
Hello everyone,
Controversial topic? Not necessarily—maybe just a reflection on a world to come.
I spent the last 15 days of August on a cruise in Greenland, from Kangerlussuaq to Tasiilaq.
I was utterly amazed by this unique world of rock and ice, the little houses in every color, a simple life that’s also complicated by isolation and climate, among other things...
I carry in my heart the kindness of the people I met, the raw and gentle majesty of the icebergs, the colors of the sky...
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,

Hello to all East Africa lovers and nature enthusiasts in general,
While I prepare to share a recap of our latest trip/safari in Kenya soon, I’d like to wish you all a peaceful transition between 2025 and 2026.
Warm regards,
Puma2A.





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We’re a couple aged 58 and 63. We’ve just returned from a wonderful trip to South India in Tamil Nadu and a few days in Kerala. We traveled with a local French-speaking guide and his friend, the driver. They both live in Pondicherry. We spent 3 weeks with them in the most authentic way!
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like! M-Claire and Jean
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like! M-Claire and Jean
This catchy and somewhat mysterious title comes from several questions I’ve been asking myself.
VF has been back open for a reasonable number of weeks and months now. The number of visitors overall matches past averages, but the number of members online in the last 24 hours seems relatively lower than what we used to see.
Yet, to my surprise, I’m seeing fewer travel journals, way fewer messages, and way fewer questions. I don’t see many new registered users online, and I notice a number of members who are logged in but either aren’t participating or have stopped participating.
Something’s not adding up for me because, in my opinion, VF is still appealing, and I don’t see which other sites could really compete.
Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid? Does it just take more time for some people to discover the site or learn that it’s active again? Do people now prefer quick consumption on sites like FB or others I’m not familiar with? Where have the site’s old-timers gone, and what are they doing with their time now? What’s really going on here?
VF has been back open for a reasonable number of weeks and months now. The number of visitors overall matches past averages, but the number of members online in the last 24 hours seems relatively lower than what we used to see.
Yet, to my surprise, I’m seeing fewer travel journals, way fewer messages, and way fewer questions. I don’t see many new registered users online, and I notice a number of members who are logged in but either aren’t participating or have stopped participating.
Something’s not adding up for me because, in my opinion, VF is still appealing, and I don’t see which other sites could really compete.
Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid? Does it just take more time for some people to discover the site or learn that it’s active again? Do people now prefer quick consumption on sites like FB or others I’m not familiar with? Where have the site’s old-timers gone, and what are they doing with their time now? What’s really going on here?
Hi there,
This isn’t exactly a traveler’s question... I’d like to know who handles the technical side of this forum?
I run a similar forum on a different topic (unrecognized children), and we’re dealing with a few technical issues that are slowly killing our forum... so I’d have one or two questions to ask 😊.
Also, I was wondering who created this forum... who the administrators or moderators are, etc.
I think this forum is great. Much better than Facebook, which I’ve been using since it shut down (so I’m happy to see it’s working again...)
This isn’t exactly a traveler’s question... I’d like to know who handles the technical side of this forum?
I run a similar forum on a different topic (unrecognized children), and we’re dealing with a few technical issues that are slowly killing our forum... so I’d have one or two questions to ask 😊.
Also, I was wondering who created this forum... who the administrators or moderators are, etc.
I think this forum is great. Much better than Facebook, which I’ve been using since it shut down (so I’m happy to see it’s working again...)