Itinéraire de vingt jours dans l'Ouest américain en septembre
by Sixiemesens
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Ok, ben on se renseignera donc le jour même au visitor center, et si elle n'est pas praticable on fera Shafer Trail et Potash en A/R
(ajout suite à ton message) : il n'est pas envisageable du tout de la remonter ? (bien sûr en fonction de l'état)
Au niveau timing, tu te souviens du temps que tu avais mis pour pour aller de la junction de Dead horse point à la 279 ?
(ajout suite à ton message) : il n'est pas envisageable du tout de la remonter ? (bien sûr en fonction de l'état)
Au niveau timing, tu te souviens du temps que tu avais mis pour pour aller de la junction de Dead horse point à la 279 ?
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alors non je n'ai pas un physique hors du commun ! mais le Spartiate me dit qu'il ne s'agit que de petite rando (je ne sais pas si c'est ironique ou non 🤪
Devil's Garden, Double Arch et Delicat Arch ne sont que des balades😉.. pas des randos, c'est tranquille pour ta journée. Dvil's garden, ça dépend de jusqu'où tu veux te balader... au plus loin, c'est Dark Angel. Le temps compte peu, il y a pas mal d'arches à photographier dans le secteur. (de mémoire 3h A/R.. pas sûr de moi sur ce coup) Delicat Arch, j'avais mis 41 mn à la montée avec une cheville en vrac😉 Double Arch, je n'avais pas pris la peine de regarder le temps.. la balade du dimanche (pépère, mémère et le chien Youki)
Ton programme dans Arches NP est faisable.
@+ le spartiate
Devil's Garden, Double Arch et Delicat Arch ne sont que des balades😉.. pas des randos, c'est tranquille pour ta journée. Dvil's garden, ça dépend de jusqu'où tu veux te balader... au plus loin, c'est Dark Angel. Le temps compte peu, il y a pas mal d'arches à photographier dans le secteur. (de mémoire 3h A/R.. pas sûr de moi sur ce coup) Delicat Arch, j'avais mis 41 mn à la montée avec une cheville en vrac😉 Double Arch, je n'avais pas pris la peine de regarder le temps.. la balade du dimanche (pépère, mémère et le chien Youki)
Ton programme dans Arches NP est faisable.
@+ le spartiate
Tout ce qui ne vous tue pas , vous rend plus fort !!
Ton programme dans Arches NP est faisable.
au moins abandonner La Sal Mountain Loop Road alors 😛
au moins abandonner La Sal Mountain Loop Road alors 😛
au moins abandonner La Sal Mountain Loop Road alors 😛
Yessssss !😉
Yessssss !😉
Tout ce qui ne vous tue pas , vous rend plus fort !!
" il n'est pas envisageable du tout de la remonter ? (bien sûr en fonction de l'état) "
Moi, je dirais non... Déjà au niveau facilité, c'est plus facile en descendant qu'en remontant et si jamais tu croises une autre voiture, tu devras faire marche-arrière... La piste n'est déjà pas évidente en marche-avant.. alors en marche-arrière? Voir explication de Sedonax ici http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=4091900#4091900 (ouf... j'ai retrouvé le lien... j'ai dû chercher 😛...)
" Au niveau timing, tu te souviens du temps que tu avais mis pour pour aller de la junction de Dead horse point à la 279 ?
A l'époque, on s'était fait la réflexion que faire la route Dead Horse Point-Moab via la route normale (route 313 + route 191) ou via la piste Long Canyon + rte 279 prenait le même temps à peu de choses près... sans compter les arrêts
Heu pour ton J2, ... n'oublie pas... LeSpartiate est surentrainé😛 et enchaine plusieurs randos sans problème...
Moi, je dirais non... Déjà au niveau facilité, c'est plus facile en descendant qu'en remontant et si jamais tu croises une autre voiture, tu devras faire marche-arrière... La piste n'est déjà pas évidente en marche-avant.. alors en marche-arrière? Voir explication de Sedonax ici http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=4091900#4091900 (ouf... j'ai retrouvé le lien... j'ai dû chercher 😛...)
" Au niveau timing, tu te souviens du temps que tu avais mis pour pour aller de la junction de Dead horse point à la 279 ?
A l'époque, on s'était fait la réflexion que faire la route Dead Horse Point-Moab via la route normale (route 313 + route 191) ou via la piste Long Canyon + rte 279 prenait le même temps à peu de choses près... sans compter les arrêts
Heu pour ton J2, ... n'oublie pas... LeSpartiate est surentrainé😛 et enchaine plusieurs randos sans problème...
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
Bonsoir Nicolas,
pour Arches, en complément de ce qui a déjà été dit, regarde notre site web, le timing y est indiqué et nous avons fait une bonne partie de ton programme (mais pas Fiery). Et il faisait chaud. Mais nous ne sommes pas des randonneurs de l'extrême, donc les durées sont tout à fait réalistes 😎.
pour Arches, en complément de ce qui a déjà été dit, regarde notre site web, le timing y est indiqué et nous avons fait une bonne partie de ton programme (mais pas Fiery). Et il faisait chaud. Mais nous ne sommes pas des randonneurs de l'extrême, donc les durées sont tout à fait réalistes 😎.
Ok, ben au vue de la photo, je crois en effet que ne le fera pas en montant ! Donc j'élimine cette possibilité de mon carnet de route, on fera la Potash road dans les 2 sens (ça on peut ???)
et oui j'ai bien noté que le Spartiate était, euh comment dire, un surhomme !! je pense en effet qu'on supprimera la sal mountain loop pour rentrer à l'hôtel se reposer un peu et profiter de la piscine pour se rafraîchir.
et oui j'ai bien noté que le Spartiate était, euh comment dire, un surhomme !! je pense en effet qu'on supprimera la sal mountain loop pour rentrer à l'hôtel se reposer un peu et profiter de la piscine pour se rafraîchir.
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" on fera la Potash road dans les 2 sens (ça on peut ???) "
oui... ça on peut😎
Mais si Long Canyon est praticable, pq ne pas t'arranger pour descendre Long Canyon (belles vues sur Behind the Rocks ), reprendre Potash Rd + monter Shafer Trail et rejoindre Dead Horse Point pour le sunset😛. Puis retour à Moab par la route normale goudronnée. Maintenant faut voir si ça rentre ds le timing!
oui... ça on peut😎
Mais si Long Canyon est praticable, pq ne pas t'arranger pour descendre Long Canyon (belles vues sur Behind the Rocks ), reprendre Potash Rd + monter Shafer Trail et rejoindre Dead Horse Point pour le sunset😛. Puis retour à Moab par la route normale goudronnée. Maintenant faut voir si ça rentre ds le timing!
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
Je ne tiens pas absolument à prendre Long Canyon, c'était surtout pour éviter de faire Shafer Trail et Potash en A/R et faire une boucle
en tout cas merci pour tous vos conseils (continuez d'ailleurs, on n'en a jamais trop 😎)
en tout cas merci pour tous vos conseils (continuez d'ailleurs, on n'en a jamais trop 😎)
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à un peu plus d'une semaine du départ il me reste encore pas mal de boulot pour finaliser mon parcours.
mais voici où j'en suis :
J1 : marne la vallée - bruxelles
J2 :bruxelles - las vegas
nuit à Imperial Palace
J3 : las vegas
glandouille, shopping
nuit à Imperial Palace
J4 : las vegas
snow canyon
zion (canyon over look, many pools)
kodachrome pour la fin de soirée et coucher de soleil
bryce canyon
nuit au bryce canyon sunset campground (réservé)
J5 :bryce canyon
nuit au bryce canyon sunset campground (réservé)
J6 :devils garden
burr trail + nottom road
fruita school
capitol gorge dans capitol reef
factory bute (aller retour sur la piste si le temps le permet)
little wild horse
couché de soleil à goblins
nuit à goblins ou vers moab si la motivation de continuer la route
J7 :dead horse point au lever de soleil (enfin en tout début de journée, tout dépend d'où la nuit précédente à eu lieu
island in the sky
nuit au Willow Campground (pas réservé)
J8 :lever de soleil à mesa arch
shafer trail + potash road
fiery furnace tour (avec ranger - réservé)
couché de soleil à Délicate Arch
nuit à Williams bottom ou Jaisy Park (non réservé)
J9 :needles
mule canyon
natural bridge
muley point
mokee dugway
monument valley (point de vue ou piste si le temps le permet)
route vers page
nuit à lees ferry campground si dispo
J10:route vers las vegas
nuit au Treasure Island (réservé, vue strip)
J11:las vegas
nuit à l'Excalibur (réservé)
J12: death valley
twenty team mule canyon
ubehebe crater
piste vers race track (après avoir discuté avec les rangers du visitor center pour avoir leurs avis sur l'état de la piste et de nos pneus)
devils golf course
natural bridge
bad water (si le temps le permet, nous y sommes déjà allé en 2009)
skidoo
aguereberry point
mahogany flat
nuit à mahogany flat (pas réservé)
J13:alabama hills
bodie
mono lake
nuit à june lake campground (réservé)
J14: yosemite (à détailler !!!)
nuit à curry village (réservé)
J15:yosemite
arrêt aux studios pixar à emeryville (étant salarié de Disneyland Paris, je vais tenter de pouvoir rentrer en tant que salarié d'une société tierce de la Walt Disney Compagny)
san francisco
nuit du côté de presidio (réservé via airbnb)
J16:san francisco
nuit du côté de presidio (réservé via airbnb)
J17:san francisco
visite d'alcatraz (réservé)
match de baseball au at&t park (réservé)
nuit du côté de presidio (réservé via airbnb)
J18:route vers Los Angeles
à détailler
nuit quelque part ! (à déterminer)
J19:los angeles
studios Walt Disney de Burbank
photo autour des studios Warner Bros
universal studio
nuit au Motel 6 8221 Pioneer Boulevard, Whittier, CA 90606 (réservé)
J20:los angeles
passage au dodger stadium (photo et boutique)
hollywood blvd
universal studio (si nécessaire, ça dépend du temps passé et des files d'attente la veille)
griffith park
disneyland down town (disney village)
nuit Motel 6 - Anaheim Maingate 100 Disney Way, Anaheim, CA 92802
J21:los angeles
disneyland
nuit à l'arrache! (le parc ferme à 0:00, le vol part à 7:00 donc entre le rendu de la voiture, l'enregistrement etc... ça ne vaut pas le coup de prendre un hôtel pour 3ou 4h)
J22:retour
nuit dans l'avion
J23:bruxelles - marne la vallée
alors c'est sûr c'est ultra chargé, mais la liste n'est pas la liste de tout ce qui sera fait, mais plutôt des idées et des grandes lignes.
alors c'est sûr c'est ultra chargé, mais la liste n'est pas la liste de tout ce qui sera fait, mais plutôt des idées et des grandes lignes.
Pour voir les galeries de photos allez sur mon profil
Hi,
" la liste n'est pas la liste de tout ce qui sera fait, mais plutôt des idées et des grandes lignes. "
Ah... OK.... ouf alors😎.. pcqu'en te lisant, j'imaginais que tu avais aussi prévu la descente+ remontée du Grand Canyon en 3h, juste après le rafting du matin, et juste avant de faire une ballade de cheval , puis de prendre la route pour rejoindre l'étape suivante 😏😄
Bon voyage🙂
" la liste n'est pas la liste de tout ce qui sera fait, mais plutôt des idées et des grandes lignes. "
Ah... OK.... ouf alors😎.. pcqu'en te lisant, j'imaginais que tu avais aussi prévu la descente+ remontée du Grand Canyon en 3h, juste après le rafting du matin, et juste avant de faire une ballade de cheval , puis de prendre la route pour rejoindre l'étape suivante 😏😄
Bon voyage🙂
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
Mais beaucoup de choses seront faites, enfin j'espère !! mais je suis tout à fait conscient que c'est très chargé
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Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.