Prix des billets d'avion vers les États-Unis
by Soula1
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Original post
bonjour
quelqu'un pourra peut être m'éclairer
je constate que les prix des billets d'avion ( pour ce qui me concerne les USA ) ont explosés .
j'ai fait 3 voyages en 2009 , 2011 et 2012 et les prix étaient sensiblement identiques
je commence à regarder pour 2013 et dans les mêmes conditions c'est 1000 € plus cher
avez vous une explication ?
et une astuce
j'ai passé des heures sur des tas de moteurs de recherches à des heures didderentes ; même 5 heures du matin ; mais c'est pareil
merci
T'éclairer non mais on dit ça tous les ans 🤪
Maintenant c'est vrai que les prix explosent particulièrement depuis 2 ans, la crise + le prix du pétrole sont passés par là.
Pour tes recherches tout peu se jouer à un jour près. Il faut jouer sur les sens si tu ne fais pas une boucle, sur les aéroports si tu as plusieurs grandes villes dans le secteur de destination ou de départ, bref faut pas se limiter toujours à la même recherche.
Exemple, je viens de réserver un Paris-Albuquerque, Nouvelle Orléans-Paris pour 1000 €/personne sur Air France en partant le 21 juin et retour le 20 juillet (j'aurais pu l'avoir à 866 € avec des temps de parcours un peu plus longs). Le même vol en partant le 22 juin, soit le lendemain, m'aurait couté 300 € de plus par personne!
Bonne chasse....
Maintenant c'est vrai que les prix explosent particulièrement depuis 2 ans, la crise + le prix du pétrole sont passés par là.
Pour tes recherches tout peu se jouer à un jour près. Il faut jouer sur les sens si tu ne fais pas une boucle, sur les aéroports si tu as plusieurs grandes villes dans le secteur de destination ou de départ, bref faut pas se limiter toujours à la même recherche.
Exemple, je viens de réserver un Paris-Albuquerque, Nouvelle Orléans-Paris pour 1000 €/personne sur Air France en partant le 21 juin et retour le 20 juillet (j'aurais pu l'avoir à 866 € avec des temps de parcours un peu plus longs). Le même vol en partant le 22 juin, soit le lendemain, m'aurait couté 300 € de plus par personne!
Bonne chasse....
Arnho (dit Nono la sulfateuse)
Venez découvrir mes visions d'Amérique sur http://www.flickr.com/photos/arnhovoyage/
j'ai fait 3 voyages en 2009 , 2011 et 2012 et les prix étaient sensiblement identiques
A quelle période ? Pour un séjour de combien de temps ? à combien au final ? (avec des escales ?) 😮 Personnellement pour des voyages "hors-saison" (mai ou novembre) j'ai trouvé que les prix avaient déjà "explosés" depuis 2 ans... 😕 de 400-500€ pour LAX à... 800€ ! 🏴☠️
A quelle période ? Pour un séjour de combien de temps ? à combien au final ? (avec des escales ?) 😮 Personnellement pour des voyages "hors-saison" (mai ou novembre) j'ai trouvé que les prix avaient déjà "explosés" depuis 2 ans... 😕 de 400-500€ pour LAX à... 800€ ! 🏴☠️
Conseils pour circuits dans l'Ouest américain : https://voyageforum.com/forum/conseils_etablir_son_circuit_dans_ouest_americain_resume_D5303777/
merci
j'essaye pas mal de solutions en jouant sur les dates ; aeroport de départ mais j'ai re-vérifié mes billets précédents et même si il y avait une petite augmentation annuelle , cette année ça a explosé . ex en 2011 avec UNITED , CDG / NYC et PHOENIX / CDG = 2400€ pour 3 avec juste une escale au retour et c'était à peu prés pareil en 2010 ou j'avais fait LONDRES/ALBUQUERQUE et SFO/LONDRES une escale à l'aller et au retour . cette année CDG/ORLANDO et MIAMI/CDG 2200 € toujours pour 3 et toujours avec UNITED mais là je regarde pour un circuit équivalent et je suis à 3500€ dans les mêmes conditions . depuis aout et les prix n'ont pas variés . c'est sur qu'on peut trouver moins cher en faisant 3 escales ..... en plus je suis à Narbonne je te dis pas le casse tête rien que pour trouver l'aéroport de départ le plus interessant dur dur .....😉
j'essaye pas mal de solutions en jouant sur les dates ; aeroport de départ mais j'ai re-vérifié mes billets précédents et même si il y avait une petite augmentation annuelle , cette année ça a explosé . ex en 2011 avec UNITED , CDG / NYC et PHOENIX / CDG = 2400€ pour 3 avec juste une escale au retour et c'était à peu prés pareil en 2010 ou j'avais fait LONDRES/ALBUQUERQUE et SFO/LONDRES une escale à l'aller et au retour . cette année CDG/ORLANDO et MIAMI/CDG 2200 € toujours pour 3 et toujours avec UNITED mais là je regarde pour un circuit équivalent et je suis à 3500€ dans les mêmes conditions . depuis aout et les prix n'ont pas variés . c'est sur qu'on peut trouver moins cher en faisant 3 escales ..... en plus je suis à Narbonne je te dis pas le casse tête rien que pour trouver l'aéroport de départ le plus interessant dur dur .....😉
Oui... les prix ont explosé, déjà pour les voyages en 2012...et encore plus pour 2013... Et il n'y a pas que l'ouest américain qui est touché🤪
Il faut vraiment partir en dehors des congés scolaires pour retrouver un prix plus "démocratique" (qui correspond +/- au prix qu'on payait en 2009 et 2010 pour un voyage en juillet-août)
La crise est passée par là, il faut maintenant renflouer les caisses... Et en plus, malgré la crise, de plus en plus de personnes voyagent... pq dès lors les compagnies diminueraient-elles leurs prix? (les vols seront qd même complets en juillet-août)
La crise est passée par là, il faut maintenant renflouer les caisses... Et en plus, malgré la crise, de plus en plus de personnes voyagent... pq dès lors les compagnies diminueraient-elles leurs prix? (les vols seront qd même complets en juillet-août)
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
Il faut vraiment partir en dehors des congés scolaires pour retrouver un prix plus "démocratique" (qui correspond +/- au prix qu'on payait en 2009 et 2010 pour un voyage en juillet-août)
...mouais....j'y vais quasi tout les ans en février ou mars, et les prix ne bougent pas trop d'une année sur l'autre pour cette période...
.....pour début 2013 je paye 480 € pour un vol sur la Floride....et pendant les vacances scolaires....c'est correct je trouve....
...on dirait que ce n'est que les prix pour l'été qui explosent....
...mouais....j'y vais quasi tout les ans en février ou mars, et les prix ne bougent pas trop d'une année sur l'autre pour cette période...
.....pour début 2013 je paye 480 € pour un vol sur la Floride....et pendant les vacances scolaires....c'est correct je trouve....
...on dirait que ce n'est que les prix pour l'été qui explosent....
Pareil je ne constate pas de reel augmentation de prix ou alors j'ai de la chance sur mes billets
Mes billets acheté en aout 2012 pour juin 2013 , les billets ont pris au jour d'aujourd'hui 400€ de plus que le prix que j'avais payé , et pendant un momment le prix avait prix + 1000€.
Perso je suis toujours dans la meme fourchette de prix que sur mes 2 precedent voyages de 2011 et 2012
Tu es hors période scolaire ou pas? A mon avis tout est là, passé le 22 juin c'est la claque 😕
Arnho (dit Nono la sulfateuse)
Venez découvrir mes visions d'Amérique sur http://www.flickr.com/photos/arnhovoyage/
Humm en regardant en juillet et août 2013, de Barcelone j.ai vu qu'un billet tourne autour de 780€ par personne...
En principe les prix devraient baisser en janvier...
En principe les prix devraient baisser en janvier...
J'ai modifié un peu ma precedente reponse.
Oui c'est debut juin
C'est terrible depuis l'année passée, ca monte tout le temps.
Les vols intérieurs c'est rendu épouvantable au Canada.
Calgary-Québec pour le Springbreak, je trouve rien en bas de 800$ à 900$ 🤪
Les vols intérieurs c'est rendu épouvantable au Canada.
Calgary-Québec pour le Springbreak, je trouve rien en bas de 800$ à 900$ 🤪
"I go to Paris. I go to London. I go to Rome, and I always say: "There's no place like New York." That's the way it is. That's it."
(Robert De Niro)
.....pour début 2013 je paye 480 € pour un vol sur la Floride....et pendant les vacances scolaires....c'est correct je trouve....
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Rho purée, j ai pas fait une bonne affaire moi alors ... C est quoi votre trajet, quelle cie, a quelles dates ?
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Rho purée, j ai pas fait une bonne affaire moi alors ... C est quoi votre trajet, quelle cie, a quelles dates ?
Rho purée, j ai pas fait une bonne affaire moi alors ...
C est quoi votre trajet, quelle cie, a quelles dates ?
....alors c'est un BRU/FLL/CDG....avec Delta, départ le 3 mars au début des vacances scolaires zone C....
....je pars régulièrement de Bruxelles, c'est moins cher en période scolaire française (et ca ne coute que 30 € pour y aller)..
......mais cette année les prix au départ de Paris pour les vacances de février sont restés très longtemps dans les 500 € pour les vols sur MIA ou FLL......en fait j'aurais pu partir de Paris pour à peu prés le même prix avec US Airways.......
....c'est pour ça que je modère la la déclaration "les prix explosent vers les US" : ben en tout cas, pas pour février ou je regarde les prix depuis des mois...
.....ce matin encore, on peut avoir un A/R New York départ BRU avec AF en pleine vacances scolaires française pour 450 €.....
....alors c'est un BRU/FLL/CDG....avec Delta, départ le 3 mars au début des vacances scolaires zone C....
....je pars régulièrement de Bruxelles, c'est moins cher en période scolaire française (et ca ne coute que 30 € pour y aller)..
......mais cette année les prix au départ de Paris pour les vacances de février sont restés très longtemps dans les 500 € pour les vols sur MIA ou FLL......en fait j'aurais pu partir de Paris pour à peu prés le même prix avec US Airways.......
....c'est pour ça que je modère la la déclaration "les prix explosent vers les US" : ben en tout cas, pas pour février ou je regarde les prix depuis des mois...
.....ce matin encore, on peut avoir un A/R New York départ BRU avec AF en pleine vacances scolaires française pour 450 €.....
Ok merci !
Bon en meme temps, vu que je pars de province, c est normal que je sois plus cher ...
ça dépend, l'an passé j'ai payé 580 € un Montpellier/Paris/Orlando avec Air France. Et cette année en février, un Marseille/Londres/Orlando à 570 € avec British Airways
ça dépend, l'an passé j'ai payé 580 € un Montpellier/Paris/Orlando avec Air France. Et cette année en février, un Marseille/Londres/Orlando à 570 € avec British Airways
Ben j ai pris : toulouse/ frankfort / miami : 626€ / pers pour le 20/02 ! Un peu plus cher, mais bon je vais enfin pouvoir tester l A380 !!
Ben j ai pris : toulouse/ frankfort / miami : 626€ / pers pour le 20/02 ! Un peu plus cher, mais bon je vais enfin pouvoir tester l A380 !!
Ben j ai pris :
toulouse/ frankfort / miami : 626€ / pers pour le 20/02 !
Un peu plus cher, mais bon je vais enfin pouvoir tester l A380 !!
...et au moins tu aura un peu plus de service qu'avec une compagnie US de base....
...et au moins tu aura un peu plus de service qu'avec une compagnie US de base....
Oui je trouve aussi que les billets ont pris une sacrée claque depuis quelque temps...
Mon voyage paris-calgary en aout/sept 2008 : 620 euros par pers, j'ai tenté le même trajet aux mêmes dates pour 2013, ya rien en dessous de 800 euros... et maintenant on est 3 et qui plus est en âge scolaire donc effectivement, c'est le casse-tête et un sacré magot à avoir quand on veux partir en famille pendant les vacances scolaires...
Je suis depuis plus d'un an les prix paris-Montreal et en février 2012, j'avais vu les billets à 1241 euros pour l'été 2012 (pour nous 3). Contente, je me dit que je trouverais ce prix pour partir à l'été 2013... que nenni, depuis aout, rien en dessous de 2000 euros... J'ai dû le voir une fois à 1700, j'aurai mieux fait de prendre...
Idem pour New-york aux vacances de pâques, je trouve même pas de direct (!!!) ou alors bien trop cher pour mon budget.. Vols chers aussi pour san francisco ou miami... Et puis faire une escale à la limite mais avec des enfants, pffff. Bref, je suis de près les évolutions tarifaires d'après un tableau de vols flexibles mais c'est pas évident de trouver ce qu'on recherche, surtout quand on a vu des tarifs bien moins élevés les années passées sur des vols "classiques".
Non vraiment, ce n'est plus aussi simple (et pas trop cher) que cela l'a été...
Mon voyage paris-calgary en aout/sept 2008 : 620 euros par pers, j'ai tenté le même trajet aux mêmes dates pour 2013, ya rien en dessous de 800 euros... et maintenant on est 3 et qui plus est en âge scolaire donc effectivement, c'est le casse-tête et un sacré magot à avoir quand on veux partir en famille pendant les vacances scolaires...
Je suis depuis plus d'un an les prix paris-Montreal et en février 2012, j'avais vu les billets à 1241 euros pour l'été 2012 (pour nous 3). Contente, je me dit que je trouverais ce prix pour partir à l'été 2013... que nenni, depuis aout, rien en dessous de 2000 euros... J'ai dû le voir une fois à 1700, j'aurai mieux fait de prendre...
Idem pour New-york aux vacances de pâques, je trouve même pas de direct (!!!) ou alors bien trop cher pour mon budget.. Vols chers aussi pour san francisco ou miami... Et puis faire une escale à la limite mais avec des enfants, pffff. Bref, je suis de près les évolutions tarifaires d'après un tableau de vols flexibles mais c'est pas évident de trouver ce qu'on recherche, surtout quand on a vu des tarifs bien moins élevés les années passées sur des vols "classiques".
Non vraiment, ce n'est plus aussi simple (et pas trop cher) que cela l'a été...
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je vois qu'on a les mêmes soucis ....😉
en plus mon fils aura 12 ans ce qui complique encore plus la tache car suivant les compagnies la bascule enfant/adulte se fait à 11 ou 12 ans , révolus ou non .
je précise à tous ; pour avoir des éléments de comparaisons communs ; que quand j'ai démarré cette discussion je pensais à un voyage en été .
il est certain qu'en partant en mars ou en octobre on trouve des tarifs interessants ....
j'ai remarqué un chose : les low coast ne sont pas du tout interessants sur les longues distances
bref , prévoir du doliprane non seulement pour le voyage mais aussi pour les reservations
Y'a aussi les bagages qu'on paie maintenant aux USA, à 4 ca paraît.
y'a les vols ou l'on te donne à peine un verre d'eau, maintenant on ne se fait plus avoir et quand ca tombe sur l'heure des repas on va plutôt manger à l'aéroport, pas mal moins cher et plus de choix.
y'a les vols ou l'on te donne à peine un verre d'eau, maintenant on ne se fait plus avoir et quand ca tombe sur l'heure des repas on va plutôt manger à l'aéroport, pas mal moins cher et plus de choix.
"I go to Paris. I go to London. I go to Rome, and I always say: "There's no place like New York." That's the way it is. That's it."
(Robert De Niro)
je vois qu'on a les mêmes soucis ....😉
en plus mon fils aura 12 ans ce qui complique encore plus la tache car suivant les compagnies la bascule enfant/adulte se fait à 11 ou 12 ans , révolus ou non .
Ben , nous on a même pas eu droit a un tarif enfant chez lufhtansa , et pourtant ils n ont que 3 ans ! C etait meme tarif pour tout le monde
Ben , nous on a même pas eu droit a un tarif enfant chez lufhtansa , et pourtant ils n ont que 3 ans ! C etait meme tarif pour tout le monde
.je pars régulièrement de Bruxelles, c'est moins cher en période scolaire française (et ca ne coute que 30 € pour y aller)..
Quelle est donc cette bonne astuce pour un Paris Bruxelles à 30 euros ? Je suis preneuse 😎
Quelle est donc cette bonne astuce pour un Paris Bruxelles à 30 euros ? Je suis preneuse 😎
Carnets de voyage : voir mon profil (Lanzarote - New York - Namibie - Vietnam - Angkor - Ouest USA)
Quelle est donc cette bonne astuce pour un Paris Bruxelles à 30 euros ?
Je suis preneuse 😎
Surement voyager à fond de cale là dedans (pour le prix tu dois rejoindre la côte belge à pieds) 😉 ;

Surement voyager à fond de cale là dedans (pour le prix tu dois rejoindre la côte belge à pieds) 😉 ;

Arnho (dit Nono la sulfateuse)
Venez découvrir mes visions d'Amérique sur http://www.flickr.com/photos/arnhovoyage/
Quelle est donc cette bonne astuce pour un Paris Bruxelles à 30 euros ?
Je suis preneuse 😎
....ben tu prends ton billet 3 mois à l'avance....le moins cher c'est 22 € pour Bruxelles Midi...moi je suis à 29 € car c'est un billet direct pour l'aéroport....
....ben tu prends ton billet 3 mois à l'avance....le moins cher c'est 22 € pour Bruxelles Midi...moi je suis à 29 € car c'est un billet direct pour l'aéroport....
...ben tu prends ton billet 3 mois à l'avance....le moins cher c'est 22 € pour Bruxelles Midi...moi je suis à 29 € car c'est un billet direct pour l'aéroport....
Exact, je viens de voir sur SNCF des billets à 29 € pour Bruxelles-National-Aéroprot 😉
Mais National-Aéroport, c'est pour les vols internationaux ????? Que c'est compliqué la Belgique 😕😕
Exact, je viens de voir sur SNCF des billets à 29 € pour Bruxelles-National-Aéroprot 😉
Mais National-Aéroport, c'est pour les vols internationaux ????? Que c'est compliqué la Belgique 😕😕
Carnets de voyage : voir mon profil (Lanzarote - New York - Namibie - Vietnam - Angkor - Ouest USA)
Surement voyager à fond de cale là dedans (pour le prix tu dois rejoindre la côte belge à pieds)
..... et me voilà en bon état pour arpenter les avenues de New York.... même plus le courage de faire du shopping.... un voyage économique 😉😉😉 Je vais creuser l'idée....
..... et me voilà en bon état pour arpenter les avenues de New York.... même plus le courage de faire du shopping.... un voyage économique 😉😉😉 Je vais creuser l'idée....
Carnets de voyage : voir mon profil (Lanzarote - New York - Namibie - Vietnam - Angkor - Ouest USA)
Mais National-Aéroport, c'est pour les vols internationaux ????? Que c'est compliqué la Belgique 😕😕
Tu crois vraiment que vu la taille du pays, il y a des vols intérieurs ? 😏😛
Tu crois vraiment que vu la taille du pays, il y a des vols intérieurs ? 😏😛
Circuit dans l'Ouest : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2744058
Floride-Louisiane : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=3536861
Une semaine à New York : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=4550454
New York, again http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=5593646
Mais National-Aéroport, c'est pour les vols internationaux ????? Que c'est compliqué la Belgique 😕😕
...oui, c'est un aéroport assez petit et plutot agréable...et international, donc.
Et c'est coté flamand, donc propre, efficace et néerlandophone..
...heu...c'est une plaisanterie ça, ok ?
...oui, c'est un aéroport assez petit et plutot agréable...et international, donc.
Et c'est coté flamand, donc propre, efficace et néerlandophone..
...heu...c'est une plaisanterie ça, ok ?
Bonjour Virginie,
Tu crois vraiment que vu la taille du pays, il y a des vols intérieurs ? 😏😛
Ben, ch'ais pas trop 😊🤪🤪... mais avec un Depardieu, il va vous falloir revoir tout ça... 😛😏
Armelle
Tu crois vraiment que vu la taille du pays, il y a des vols intérieurs ? 😏😛
Ben, ch'ais pas trop 😊🤪🤪... mais avec un Depardieu, il va vous falloir revoir tout ça... 😛😏
Armelle
Carnets de voyage : voir mon profil (Lanzarote - New York - Namibie - Vietnam - Angkor - Ouest USA)
Mais National-Aéroport, c'est pour les vols internationaux ????? Que c'est compliqué la Belgique 😕😕
...oui, c'est un aéroport assez petit et plutot agréable...et international, donc.
Et c'est coté flamand, donc propre, efficace et néerlandophone..
...heu...c'est une plaisanterie ça, ok ?
Toi tu vas avoir des problemes !! 😏😏
...oui, c'est un aéroport assez petit et plutot agréable...et international, donc.
Et c'est coté flamand, donc propre, efficace et néerlandophone..
...heu...c'est une plaisanterie ça, ok ?
Toi tu vas avoir des problemes !! 😏😏
Oui 11 ou 12 ans, c'est pas facile !! En même temps, vu la différence de prix quasi inexistante dans la plupart des cies entre le tarif adulte et enfant.... La mienne a presque 4 ans et les taxes sont les mêmes, il doit y avoir une poignée de dizaines d'euros de diff avec nous...
Je viens d'essayer des simul via Bruxelles... mouais, rien qui justifie de passer par là... pas assez de diff côté prix pour que ça soit "rentable". Et puis je viens d'essayer un paris san francisco cet été (départ juin retour juillet) 3000 euros... lax 2800... 🤪 Par contre, mon comparateur de vol me propose des TAP portugal, du FInnair, non mais c'est koi ce b****, pas de direct pour NYC au printemps.... ?? non mais c'est juste pas possible !!!!!!!!!!!!!😠
Je viens d'essayer des simul via Bruxelles... mouais, rien qui justifie de passer par là... pas assez de diff côté prix pour que ça soit "rentable". Et puis je viens d'essayer un paris san francisco cet été (départ juin retour juillet) 3000 euros... lax 2800... 🤪 Par contre, mon comparateur de vol me propose des TAP portugal, du FInnair, non mais c'est koi ce b****, pas de direct pour NYC au printemps.... ?? non mais c'est juste pas possible !!!!!!!!!!!!!😠
Ouest canadien 2008 - Guadeloupe 2012 - Norvège 2012 - Québec 2015 - Irlande 2016 - Floride 2018 - Slovénie 2019 - Angleterre 2021 et 2024 - Espagne 2025
Bonjour Virginie,
Tu crois vraiment que vu la taille du pays, il y a des vols intérieurs ? 😏😛
Ben, ch'ais pas trop 😊🤪🤪... mais avec un Depardieu, il va vous falloir revoir tout ça... 😛😏
Armelle
Depardieu et les avions, ce n'est pas une grande histoire d'amour. 😏 Quand on fait les trajets en voiture pour traverser la Belgique, plus facile de s'arrêter quand on a un besoin pressant. 😛
Tu crois vraiment que vu la taille du pays, il y a des vols intérieurs ? 😏😛
Ben, ch'ais pas trop 😊🤪🤪... mais avec un Depardieu, il va vous falloir revoir tout ça... 😛😏
Armelle
Depardieu et les avions, ce n'est pas une grande histoire d'amour. 😏 Quand on fait les trajets en voiture pour traverser la Belgique, plus facile de s'arrêter quand on a un besoin pressant. 😛
Circuit dans l'Ouest : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2744058
Floride-Louisiane : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=3536861
Une semaine à New York : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=4550454
New York, again http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=5593646
Pas de vols directs entre où et NYC?
Pas de vols direct entre l'Auvergne et NYC apparemment !... 😇 C'est pas possible ! 😠 😏
Pas de vols direct entre l'Auvergne et NYC apparemment !... 😇 C'est pas possible ! 😠 😏
Conseils pour circuits dans l'Ouest américain : https://voyageforum.com/forum/conseils_etablir_son_circuit_dans_ouest_americain_resume_D5303777/
Moquez-vous, moquez-vous....😉
Mais de paris voyons !!! Preuve en image....
J'ai en fait l'impression que mon comparateur, qui pourtant était plutôt fiable, commence à défaillir... Il avait l'avantage de pouvoir voir les prix jusqu'a 15 jours avant/après...
Sur opodo, ya des directs mais vla les prix et les 1ères cies à ressortir, polish, tap, airberlin... bizarre je trouve pour un vol long-courrier classique..
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(...) Pas de vols direct entre l'Auvergne et NYC apparemment !... 😇
C'est pas possible ! 😠 😏
Je pense qu'avec http://www.netjetseurope.com, c'est possible. 😏
Je pense qu'avec http://www.netjetseurope.com, c'est possible. 😏
Tu fais tes recherches avec Orly comme aéroport de départ... ça joue, à mon avis. 😉
Circuit dans l'Ouest : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2744058
Floride-Louisiane : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=3536861
Une semaine à New York : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=4550454
New York, again http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=5593646
Ben même pas en plus... je tape juste PAR et c'est lui qui me trouve les prix les moins chers... Je m'en fiche de partir d'ORY ou CDG... Il me mets d'abord les tarifs les plus intéressants (1645 eu et avec escale...😕) donc ça signifie que les départs de CDG sont plus chers...
Le 1er CDG visible dans la liste est à partir de 1825 euros via Polish airlines, comme ce que j'avais trouvé via opodo
http://billet-avion.moins-cher.fr/
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Ben même pas en plus... je tape juste PAR et c'est lui qui me trouve les prix les moins chers... Je m'en fiche de partir d'ORY ou CDG... Il me mets d'abord les tarifs les plus intéressants (1645 eu et avec escale...😕) donc ça signifie que les départs de CDG sont plus chers...
Le 1er CDG visible dans la liste est à partir de 1825 euros via Polish airlines, comme ce que j'avais trouvé via opodo
Tu fais forcément une erreur quelque part...

Tu fais forcément une erreur quelque part...

Circuit dans l'Ouest : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2744058
Floride-Louisiane : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=3536861
Une semaine à New York : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=4550454
New York, again http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=5593646

700€ pour 4 jours, est-ce bien raisonnable ? 😇 😉 Virginie, tu devrais faire plus de pub pour ta compagnie aérienne ! Tu as gardé l'image correspondante ? ("AirVirginath" si je me rappelle bien...😏)
Conseils pour circuits dans l'Ouest américain : https://voyageforum.com/forum/conseils_etablir_son_circuit_dans_ouest_americain_resume_D5303777/
Salut Pong,
J'ai bien évidemment tapé des dates au hasard, mais 4 jours à NY, ce n'est pas si rare. 😉 Après, 700 euros, chacun voit... comme je connais de très près la compagnie citée par Carnarvon... je dirais même que c'est peanuts, par rapport à ses tarifs. 😉😏
Oui, j'ai conservé l'image quelque part. 😏
J'ai bien évidemment tapé des dates au hasard, mais 4 jours à NY, ce n'est pas si rare. 😉 Après, 700 euros, chacun voit... comme je connais de très près la compagnie citée par Carnarvon... je dirais même que c'est peanuts, par rapport à ses tarifs. 😉😏
Oui, j'ai conservé l'image quelque part. 😏
Circuit dans l'Ouest : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2744058
Floride-Louisiane : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=3536861
Une semaine à New York : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=4550454
New York, again http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=5593646
Je répète (avec précision cette fois...) 😎
700€ pour 4 jours, est-ce bien raisonnable ? 😇
(* Humour *)
C'est assez clair là ? 😛
700€ pour 4 jours, est-ce bien raisonnable ? 😇
(* Humour *)
C'est assez clair là ? 😛Conseils pour circuits dans l'Ouest américain : https://voyageforum.com/forum/conseils_etablir_son_circuit_dans_ouest_americain_resume_D5303777/
Je me disais bien : avec plus de 2000 messages au compteur,
ça traduit un bon usage du Forum !
(et pas mal dans le "forum compagnie aérienne"...)
Keep up the good work ! 🙂
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I booked with Turkish Airlines (through an online agency) for a trip to South Korea.
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Doha Airport on October 21, 2025:

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We’re planning a cruise to the UAE/QATAR/OMAN starting from DUBAI, with flights departing from Paris CDG. Which airlines would you recommend for round-trip flights, with or without a layover? We need assistance for check-in and boarding/disembarking (my husband is a mobility-impaired traveler who uses a cane and/or a walker). We’ve done a cruise return from Dubai to Paris CDG before in 2016, with a layover in Istanbul, but we booked the transfer and return flight with COSTA. For our current plan, it would be with Celestyal, which doesn’t offer round-trip flights from Paris to Dubai. Should we book very far in advance, or is a few months before departure enough (4/6 months)? We’re thinking of arriving the day before the ship departs, so we’d need to stay overnight in Dubai—either on the way there or for the return flight, depending on the flight schedules. Could you recommend a hotel not too far from the airport, and how to get to the port from the airport?
Thanks so much for your advice. Have a great Sunday! Mum49
We’re planning a cruise to the UAE/QATAR/OMAN starting from DUBAI, with flights departing from Paris CDG. Which airlines would you recommend for round-trip flights, with or without a layover? We need assistance for check-in and boarding/disembarking (my husband is a mobility-impaired traveler who uses a cane and/or a walker). We’ve done a cruise return from Dubai to Paris CDG before in 2016, with a layover in Istanbul, but we booked the transfer and return flight with COSTA. For our current plan, it would be with Celestyal, which doesn’t offer round-trip flights from Paris to Dubai. Should we book very far in advance, or is a few months before departure enough (4/6 months)? We’re thinking of arriving the day before the ship departs, so we’d need to stay overnight in Dubai—either on the way there or for the return flight, depending on the flight schedules. Could you recommend a hotel not too far from the airport, and how to get to the port from the airport?
Thanks so much for your advice. Have a great Sunday! Mum49
Hi,
It's all in the title—this means nothing's getting through, so no more oil.
In Europe, kerosene reserves are still good, but by the end of April, flights will have to be reduced.
European airports fear running out of kerosene if the Strait of Hormuz isn’t reopened within three weeks
Bluff or not? Stay tuned....
Bluff or not? Stay tuned....
Hi everyone,
I’m reaching out to ask for your help with a bit of a problem:
I booked a flight to Berlin from Orly for April 15th—it’s coming up fast. But I just made an annoying discovery: my passport expired two weeks ago.
From what I understand, in principle, I can still travel within the Schengen Zone with an expired passport as long as it’s been less than five years. However, EasyJet’s website explicitly requires a valid ID (and just to add to the fun, my national ID card has been expired for a while now).
So, I’d love to know: how strict are EasyJet’s ID checks? Do they enforce validity rules strictly and refuse boarding if the ID isn’t valid? Or is it more of a luck-of-the-draw situation?
Basically, should I just write off this trip now, or should I still try my luck—maybe with a little tearful plea? Has anyone here had a similar experience? I can’t be the only one, right!
I’m reaching out to ask for your help with a bit of a problem:
I booked a flight to Berlin from Orly for April 15th—it’s coming up fast. But I just made an annoying discovery: my passport expired two weeks ago.
From what I understand, in principle, I can still travel within the Schengen Zone with an expired passport as long as it’s been less than five years. However, EasyJet’s website explicitly requires a valid ID (and just to add to the fun, my national ID card has been expired for a while now).
So, I’d love to know: how strict are EasyJet’s ID checks? Do they enforce validity rules strictly and refuse boarding if the ID isn’t valid? Or is it more of a luck-of-the-draw situation?
Basically, should I just write off this trip now, or should I still try my luck—maybe with a little tearful plea? Has anyone here had a similar experience? I can’t be the only one, right!
Hi there!
Has anyone taken the direct flight from CDG to Las Vegas with Air France?
Looking forward to your feedback!
Hey everyone,
I booked a flight with RyanAir for next month, with the priority+ option and two cabin bags. So I can take a 10 kg bag with dimensions 55x40x20 in the cabin (plus another smaller one). The problem is that the smallest suitcase I have (which is supposed to be designed specifically for cabin size standards, according to the manual) has the following dimensions: 55x37x21, so it's just 1 cm over (wheels included) on one of the measurements.
I wasn’t too worried at first, but I’ve read dozens of stories about people’s misadventures and the hassles they’ve had with RyanAir.
Since I don’t want my suitcase to end up in the hold (that would waste time picking it up when I’m already arriving late and need to get to the city center), nor do I want to pay an extra fee (apparently 50 €) for the outbound and return flights for just 1 centimeter—especially since I paid for the "priority+" option and I’m not exactly rolling in money—I’d love some advice.
Have any of you been in the same situation? I’ve read that with this airline, they check bags in templates (testing them in different positions) and are completely uncompromising. I tried contacting customer service, who, as luck would have it, "don’t handle this kind of request," and a rep I spoke to wasn’t much help.
I know it’s a low-cost airline, and I don’t expect luxury or even kindness, but come on—just 1 cm on a short flight with the + option... I’m a bit overwhelmed by everything I’ve read...
Just to clarify, since I’m going for 8 days, I can’t just take one bag for my stuff. I’ve done that for shorter trips before, and it was a hassle—I even had to buy an extra bag for the return trip... Luckily, the inspector was nice about it!
Thanks so much! I’m a newbie when it comes to air travel :) Hope I posted this in the right section!
I booked a flight with RyanAir for next month, with the priority+ option and two cabin bags. So I can take a 10 kg bag with dimensions 55x40x20 in the cabin (plus another smaller one). The problem is that the smallest suitcase I have (which is supposed to be designed specifically for cabin size standards, according to the manual) has the following dimensions: 55x37x21, so it's just 1 cm over (wheels included) on one of the measurements.
I wasn’t too worried at first, but I’ve read dozens of stories about people’s misadventures and the hassles they’ve had with RyanAir.
Since I don’t want my suitcase to end up in the hold (that would waste time picking it up when I’m already arriving late and need to get to the city center), nor do I want to pay an extra fee (apparently 50 €) for the outbound and return flights for just 1 centimeter—especially since I paid for the "priority+" option and I’m not exactly rolling in money—I’d love some advice.
Have any of you been in the same situation? I’ve read that with this airline, they check bags in templates (testing them in different positions) and are completely uncompromising. I tried contacting customer service, who, as luck would have it, "don’t handle this kind of request," and a rep I spoke to wasn’t much help.
I know it’s a low-cost airline, and I don’t expect luxury or even kindness, but come on—just 1 cm on a short flight with the + option... I’m a bit overwhelmed by everything I’ve read...
Just to clarify, since I’m going for 8 days, I can’t just take one bag for my stuff. I’ve done that for shorter trips before, and it was a hassle—I even had to buy an extra bag for the return trip... Luckily, the inspector was nice about it!
Thanks so much! I’m a newbie when it comes to air travel :) Hope I posted this in the right section!
Hi there,
When I run searches on Skyscanner, I see that only Lufthansa has flights to Seoul with just one stop. Air France doesn’t show up, even though I thought the French airline served Seoul? I can’t even log into the Air France website—it keeps glitching.
When I run searches on Skyscanner, I see that only Lufthansa has flights to Seoul with just one stop. Air France doesn’t show up, even though I thought the French airline served Seoul? I can’t even log into the Air France website—it keeps glitching.
Hi there,
I’d like to return to Uzbekistan next April for 10 days with my husband to visit our son who lives there. We went last July and I bought the flight tickets (direct flight from Paris on Uzbekistan Airways) about 2 months in advance at very reasonable prices. I’ve been checking for late April for a few weeks now, and the tickets are much more expensive and keep rising. I can’t figure out if the prices are going up because it’s still a bit too early to buy and they’ll likely drop if the planes aren’t full, or if it’s because the period is actually in high demand. For reference, last year I bought my son’s ticket on May 30th for a departure on June 3rd—just 3 days later—at a very low price that didn’t budge at all.
Just in case, does anyone know the pricing trends for this airline and can advise me? Should I wait or not?
Thanks, and feel free to ask if you need any tips about the country!
My wife bought a flight ticket (Lucky Air) under her Thai maiden name and was issued a Chinese visa on her new Thai passport but with her French married name (due to administrative requirements). She was denied boarding by the airline in Bangkok for the flight to Kunming—resulting in the loss of our round-trip flight tickets, including mine since we were traveling together—despite presenting both passports at the airline counter at the same time.
Hi there.
I’m planning a trip to Chile, and the fares from the Colombian airline Avianca are really appealing.
Way cheaper than Air France, for example.
That said, the reviews I’ve seen online aren’t great.
What do you think of this airline?
Have any of you taken long-haul flights with Avianca?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Eric
Hi there,
This might be a silly question, but I’m traveling to Japan from CDG and returning via Osaka with EVA Air, and I have a pretty bulky aluminum knee brace. It’s this model: https://enovis-medtech.eu/fr_FR/OA-FullForce-74358.html
Has anyone had any experience with airport security checks or flying with one of these?
Thanks in advance! Best regards,
This might be a silly question, but I’m traveling to Japan from CDG and returning via Osaka with EVA Air, and I have a pretty bulky aluminum knee brace. It’s this model: https://enovis-medtech.eu/fr_FR/OA-FullForce-74358.html
Has anyone had any experience with airport security checks or flying with one of these?
Thanks in advance! Best regards,
Hi there,
I can't seem to find flights between the Cape Verde islands on the airline's website. No matter the date or route, I always get the same response: "no flights on this date." See the photo. Would anyone have an explanation? Surely not all flights are fully booked in July?
Best, Thierry
I can't seem to find flights between the Cape Verde islands on the airline's website. No matter the date or route, I always get the same response: "no flights on this date." See the photo. Would anyone have an explanation? Surely not all flights are fully booked in July?
Best, Thierry
Hi there,
I have a question...
Has anyone managed to get a refund from Oman Air?
After a delayed flight, we missed our connecting flight to get home!! At midnight, the flight attendant booked us on a flight to Nice via Munich, even though we were in Munich and wanted to get back to Nice... Too tired from the trip, we didn’t notice the mistake!! The next day, of course, the booking wasn’t valid!! We had to pay again for the flight back to Nice... I’m really struggling!! I think they’re giving me the runaround!! I’ve sent several emails, tried Messenger and WhatsApp, but the only responses I get are: "We need to investigate!! We’ll get back to you in 15 days!!" It’s been over a month!!
I just sent a registered letter (LRAR) to their office at Paris Charles de Gaulle, which is still open!!
Do you have any other suggestions for me?
Thanks in advance for your help! Virginie
After a delayed flight, we missed our connecting flight to get home!! At midnight, the flight attendant booked us on a flight to Nice via Munich, even though we were in Munich and wanted to get back to Nice... Too tired from the trip, we didn’t notice the mistake!! The next day, of course, the booking wasn’t valid!! We had to pay again for the flight back to Nice... I’m really struggling!! I think they’re giving me the runaround!! I’ve sent several emails, tried Messenger and WhatsApp, but the only responses I get are: "We need to investigate!! We’ll get back to you in 15 days!!" It’s been over a month!!
I just sent a registered letter (LRAR) to their office at Paris Charles de Gaulle, which is still open!!
Do you have any other suggestions for me?
Thanks in advance for your help! Virginie
Hi!
Sri Lanka has announced it could run out of fuel in the coming weeks if the Strait of Hormuz remains blocked. The government has implemented a mandatory four-day workweek to save oil, and there are long lines at gas stations due to fears of an early shortage.
In Vietnam, the government has warned all airlines that flights will need to be reduced due to a lack of kerosene. The country imports two-thirds of its jet fuel from China and Thailand, but both countries have now banned exports out of fear of domestic shortages.
The state is asking airlines to plan ahead and park aircraft to drastically reduce operations, starting with domestic flights and then international ones. International carriers will also need to cut back on their rotations.
This will begin in the coming days. 🙁
Hi there,
I’ve got a long layover (about 10 hours) in Seoul on an upcoming trip.
I arrive from Phnom Penh at 7:20 AM and depart for Montreal at 6:00 PM.
First question: Will my checked baggage be transferred automatically? I have a single ticket from KTI to YUL (Air Canada ticket—KTI-ICN operated by Asiana (codeshare) and ICN-YUL by Air Canada).
Second question: I saw it’s possible to join free guided tours (Airport Transit Tour). What do you think of this kind of service? And is my "actual" layover time (accounting for security checks, check-in, etc.) enough to do one of these tours?
Thanks in advance to everyone who chimes in on this!
First question: Will my checked baggage be transferred automatically? I have a single ticket from KTI to YUL (Air Canada ticket—KTI-ICN operated by Asiana (codeshare) and ICN-YUL by Air Canada).
Second question: I saw it’s possible to join free guided tours (Airport Transit Tour). What do you think of this kind of service? And is my "actual" layover time (accounting for security checks, check-in, etc.) enough to do one of these tours?
Thanks in advance to everyone who chimes in on this!






