Ryannair et la destination Maroc après le 8 novembre?
by Huguetter
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour a tous !
Impossible de savoir si cette compagnie va garder ses lignes sur le MAROC , en effet il n' y a plus de vols apres le 8 novembre 😕
Quelqu' un aurait-il des renseignements ? Je suis incapable de trouver l' information sur Ryanair .com .
Merci d' avance .
Bonjour a tous !
Impossible de savoir si cette compagnie va garder ses lignes sur le MAROC , en effet il n' y a plus de vols apres le 8 novembre 😕
Quelqu' un aurait-il des renseignements ? Je suis incapable de trouver l' information sur Ryanair .com .
Merci d' avance .
a lire ... le titre est clair "Ryanair réduit considérablement ses vols vers et à partir du Maroc" http://www.yabiladi.com/articles/details/11602/ryanair-reduit-considerablement-vols-vers.html a part pour imputer la faute "aux autres" ryanair n'est pas fort sur la com. pour les reductions de lignes 😉
a lire ... le titre est clair "Ryanair réduit considérablement ses vols vers et à partir du Maroc" http://www.yabiladi.com/articles/details/11602/ryanair-reduit-considerablement-vols-vers.html a part pour imputer la faute "aux autres" ryanair n'est pas fort sur la com. pour les reductions de lignes 😉
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen!
Michel France (85)
Merci beaucoup pour une réponse si rapide , en effet Ryanair communique sur les nouvelles lignes ouvertes mais rien sur les lignes supprimées .
Apparement la majorité des lignes sur le Maroc disparaissent a partir du début novembre , dommage , les départs de Gerone etaient tres interessants 🤪
http://www.ryanair.com/fr/nouvelles/ryanair-annonce-des-reduction-de-services-au-maroc-suite-a-la-rupture-de-l-accord-sur-les-co
La réduction des vols touche principalement le nord du Maroc : Oujda, Nador, Fès et Tanger. Vers Marrakech, il y a que deux liaisons qui seront touchées celles de Londres et valence. Pour le reste, la communiqué de Rayan Air ne parle pas de suppression des vols.
Cette compagnie est très sensible face au augmentation des frais portuaires : c'est le cas de Marseille l'année dernière. Elle a quitté également l'aéroport Basel-Mulhouse, il y a 4 ou 5 ans pour la même raison. Cette compagnie a choisi la base de Baden Baden en Allemagne quand les autorités portuaires de l'aéroport de Strasbourg a augmenté ses redevances il y a une dizaine d'années. Certainement, il y a d'autres exemples de l'attitude inflexible et très rigoureux de Rayan Air.
La réduction des vols touche principalement le nord du Maroc : Oujda, Nador, Fès et Tanger. Vers Marrakech, il y a que deux liaisons qui seront touchées celles de Londres et valence. Pour le reste, la communiqué de Rayan Air ne parle pas de suppression des vols.
Cette compagnie est très sensible face au augmentation des frais portuaires : c'est le cas de Marseille l'année dernière. Elle a quitté également l'aéroport Basel-Mulhouse, il y a 4 ou 5 ans pour la même raison. Cette compagnie a choisi la base de Baden Baden en Allemagne quand les autorités portuaires de l'aéroport de Strasbourg a augmenté ses redevances il y a une dizaine d'années. Certainement, il y a d'autres exemples de l'attitude inflexible et très rigoureux de Rayan Air.
Merci pour ta reponse , cependant je pense que tu es trop optimiste pour les vols sur Marrakech .
En effet il est impossible d' acheter des vols apres le 8 novembre pour cette destination et cela quelque soit la ville de départ car en novembre les vols n' existent plus 🤪 (départ Marseille , Gerone ...... ).
Je viens de lire ton lien et en effet ils annoncent seulement des annulations sur qqs destinations .
Bonjour,
Avec Ryanair, j'en ai bien profité dans les années 2007-2008-2009 et 2010 au départ de Marseille pour me rendre à Fes, Marrakech et Tanger et découvrir ce beau pays. Au début j'ai même trouvé des vols AR à 15€. Comme quoi il faut savoir saisir les bonnes affaires à temps. Ryanair propose d'autres destinations... profitons en !
Avec Ryanair, j'en ai bien profité dans les années 2007-2008-2009 et 2010 au départ de Marseille pour me rendre à Fes, Marrakech et Tanger et découvrir ce beau pays. Au début j'ai même trouvé des vols AR à 15€. Comme quoi il faut savoir saisir les bonnes affaires à temps. Ryanair propose d'autres destinations... profitons en !
Rayan Air pratique une politique de marketing à très .. très long terme .. ils sont trop malin !
Comme tu dis, il y avait de vol à une dizaine d'euros .. moi aussi, j'en ai bien profité.
J'ai vu des vols Rayan Air avec 0 euros .. je ne croyais pas mes yeux !
j'ai pris un billet AR Marrakech-Espagne avec 6 euros sur une ligne qui n'existe plus.
Mais Rayan Air a probablement terminé cette phase pour passer au même niveau de ses concurrents : les billet à 15 A + 15 R a été remplacé par 39 A + 39 R à deux mois à l'avance et dans certaine période.. avec de frais qui n'existent pas auparavant comme les frais de transaction, frais d'enregistrement.
En ce moment, les petits prix se pratiquent sur les pays de l'est, la Croatie, l'Italie, départ Europe essentiellement, et même du Maroc !
Ryanair a annoncé, jeudi 28 dernier une importante réduction des ses vols vers et à partir le Maroc. La compagnie aérienne low-cost supprimera, à partir du 1er octobre, 34 vols hebdomadaires, à savoir 8 fréquences de Nador, 8 d’Oujda, 6 de Fès, 8 de Marrakech et 4 de Tanger.
Selon la direction de la compagnie irlandaise, cette décision a été prise après que l’Office National Des Aéroports (ONDA) du Maroc ait « renié ses engagements en imposant une société en situation de monopole pour la gestion des opérations au sol, ce qui aurait résulté en une forte augmentation des charges pour la compagnie aérienne ».
Il est certain qui si cette décision est mise en exécution, elle porterait un coup fatal au secteur du secteur qui vit les moments les plus difficiles de son histoire et accentuera encore plus la crise. Il est à craindre la contagion envers d’autres compagnies, notamment que Ryanair point du doigt l’ONDA. L’annulation des vols RYANAIR à cause des augmentations des fees par l’ ONDA c est le KO pour Marrakech et Agadir, principales destinations touristiques du pays.
L’information et des articles de presse qui ont été publiés à ce sujet sont tombés comme une massue sur la tête des professionnels du secteur du tourisme. L’information est basée sur la déclaration de Michael CRAWLEY, Directeur Exécutif de Ryanair, qui a fait état de la suppression par la compagnie low cost RYANAIR de 34 de ses vols vers le Maroc, à partir du 1er octobre 2012. Il est indiscutable que cette décision est très préjudiciable pour le flux des touristes vers la destination Maroc, notamment en ce moment de crise. En effet, cela représente un manque à gagner de quelques 250 000 passagers par an, une grande perte pour les opérateurs et pour l'Etat Marocain en général.
Selon des informations concordantes, il s'avère que la raison principale de cette décision est le remplacement du partenaire de Ryanair, Marhandling (Globalia) par la société SWISSPORT pour gérer leurs opérations au sol, ce qui implique une augmentation de coût de handling pour RYANAIR. Les professionnels se concertent depuis cette annonce tornade qui les as sérieusement secouée. Abderrahim Oummani a écrit officiellement au DG de l’ONDA, au nom des professionnels du tourisme d’Agadir, lui demandant de trouver une solution rapide pour parer à cette décision qui aura sans aucun doute, un impact très négatif sur le secteur et sur la destination Agadir.
En effet, l'importance compagnie aérienne low cost Ryanair, première en Europe pour le développement du tourisme au Maroc en considération de volume de touristes qu'elle génère, et le potentiel qui peut drainer en provenance des principales villes européennes, est plus qu’important, depuis l’ouverture du ciel (l’Open Sky). Les professionnels de la destination Marrakech en savent bien quelque chose.
On suivra de près cette situation pour le moins inattendue. En tout cas l’ONDA en tant qu’organisme étatique et en tant qu’acteur dans le développement du tourisme doit être à l’écoute des professionnels et des opérateurs touristiques nationaux et étrangers. Le développement du tourisme passe inéluctablement par le développement de l’aérien. 90% des clients qui viennent au Maroc arrivent par avion, cela veut tout dire. En participant au développement du tourisme, l’ONDA y gagne aussi alors elle doit bien faire attention à ses ressources financières. ON ne tue pas la poule aux œufs d’or, en moins que l’on soit bien déphasé avec la réalité, pour ne pas dire autre chose de bien péjoratif.
On suivra de près ce sujet d’actualité bien brûlante
Mohamed RIAL
Selon la direction de la compagnie irlandaise, cette décision a été prise après que l’Office National Des Aéroports (ONDA) du Maroc ait « renié ses engagements en imposant une société en situation de monopole pour la gestion des opérations au sol, ce qui aurait résulté en une forte augmentation des charges pour la compagnie aérienne ».
Il est certain qui si cette décision est mise en exécution, elle porterait un coup fatal au secteur du secteur qui vit les moments les plus difficiles de son histoire et accentuera encore plus la crise. Il est à craindre la contagion envers d’autres compagnies, notamment que Ryanair point du doigt l’ONDA. L’annulation des vols RYANAIR à cause des augmentations des fees par l’ ONDA c est le KO pour Marrakech et Agadir, principales destinations touristiques du pays.
L’information et des articles de presse qui ont été publiés à ce sujet sont tombés comme une massue sur la tête des professionnels du secteur du tourisme. L’information est basée sur la déclaration de Michael CRAWLEY, Directeur Exécutif de Ryanair, qui a fait état de la suppression par la compagnie low cost RYANAIR de 34 de ses vols vers le Maroc, à partir du 1er octobre 2012. Il est indiscutable que cette décision est très préjudiciable pour le flux des touristes vers la destination Maroc, notamment en ce moment de crise. En effet, cela représente un manque à gagner de quelques 250 000 passagers par an, une grande perte pour les opérateurs et pour l'Etat Marocain en général.
Selon des informations concordantes, il s'avère que la raison principale de cette décision est le remplacement du partenaire de Ryanair, Marhandling (Globalia) par la société SWISSPORT pour gérer leurs opérations au sol, ce qui implique une augmentation de coût de handling pour RYANAIR. Les professionnels se concertent depuis cette annonce tornade qui les as sérieusement secouée. Abderrahim Oummani a écrit officiellement au DG de l’ONDA, au nom des professionnels du tourisme d’Agadir, lui demandant de trouver une solution rapide pour parer à cette décision qui aura sans aucun doute, un impact très négatif sur le secteur et sur la destination Agadir.
En effet, l'importance compagnie aérienne low cost Ryanair, première en Europe pour le développement du tourisme au Maroc en considération de volume de touristes qu'elle génère, et le potentiel qui peut drainer en provenance des principales villes européennes, est plus qu’important, depuis l’ouverture du ciel (l’Open Sky). Les professionnels de la destination Marrakech en savent bien quelque chose.
On suivra de près cette situation pour le moins inattendue. En tout cas l’ONDA en tant qu’organisme étatique et en tant qu’acteur dans le développement du tourisme doit être à l’écoute des professionnels et des opérateurs touristiques nationaux et étrangers. Le développement du tourisme passe inéluctablement par le développement de l’aérien. 90% des clients qui viennent au Maroc arrivent par avion, cela veut tout dire. En participant au développement du tourisme, l’ONDA y gagne aussi alors elle doit bien faire attention à ses ressources financières. ON ne tue pas la poule aux œufs d’or, en moins que l’on soit bien déphasé avec la réalité, pour ne pas dire autre chose de bien péjoratif.
On suivra de près ce sujet d’actualité bien brûlante
Mohamed RIAL
Il est certain que la machine administrative du Maroc n'est pas capable de suivre l'évolution du marché du transport aérien .. La gestion de la RAM et de l'aéroport de casa et ses scandales à répétition est un exemple significatif.. si les affaires ont bien tourné jusqu'à maintenant, c'est par une volonté politique de drainer le maximum de touristes.. les 10 millions de touristes par an est loin, trop loin
Selon la direction de la compagnie irlandaise, cette décision a été prise après que l’Office National Des Aéroports (ONDA) du Maroc ait « renié ses engagements en imposant une société en situation de monopole pour la gestion des opérations au sol, ce qui aurait résulté en une forte augmentation des charges pour la compagnie aérienne ».
C'est surtout que ryanair, de ce fait, ne gagne plus assez de fric au Maroc, habituée a ce que tout lui soit "donné" ... ou presque ... et cette situation se repète déjà ailleurs, Espagne entre autre et ce n'est visiblement pas fini
C'est surtout que ryanair, de ce fait, ne gagne plus assez de fric au Maroc, habituée a ce que tout lui soit "donné" ... ou presque ... et cette situation se repète déjà ailleurs, Espagne entre autre et ce n'est visiblement pas fini
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen!
Michel France (85)
Bonjour,
Je surveille également les vols pour Agadir.... Rien pour l'instant en partance de Charleroi.
Ryanair Air est certainement en train de mettre la pression sur les autorités....
Je surveille également les vols pour Agadir.... Rien pour l'instant en partance de Charleroi.
Ryanair Air est certainement en train de mettre la pression sur les autorités....
J'en doute, ryanair bien trop contente d'avoir trouver une raison de quitter un marché pas tres lucratif alors peut etre dans 2/3/5 ans ou +
J'en doute, ryanair bien trop contente d'avoir trouver une raison de quitter un marché pas tres lucratif alors peut etre dans 2/3/5 ans ou +
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen!
Michel France (85)
Et oui, Jetair et Tomas Cook et RAM.
Les vols Ryanair pour Agadir étaient toujours complets, ou presque. Nous étions une vingtaine de "touristes", pour les autres il s'agissait de RME.
J'ai déjà une réservation du 24/9 au 29/10... Je suppose qu'ils maintiendront le 29/10.
Les vols Ryanair pour Agadir étaient toujours complets, ou presque. Nous étions une vingtaine de "touristes", pour les autres il s'agissait de RME...
... tu as mis le doigt sur une des raisons qui fait que les marocains vont certainement ne pas (re)ouvrir la boite a aides pour ce type de Cie, le contrat opensky et les aides associées avaient un but, developper le tourisme dans le patys, ... et , 20 touristes et +/160 MRE, c'est pas tt a fait la finalité attendue !
... tu as mis le doigt sur une des raisons qui fait que les marocains vont certainement ne pas (re)ouvrir la boite a aides pour ce type de Cie, le contrat opensky et les aides associées avaient un but, developper le tourisme dans le patys, ... et , 20 touristes et +/160 MRE, c'est pas tt a fait la finalité attendue !
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen!
Michel France (85)
Bonjour Michel,
J'avais lu un article du même genre voici peu de temps ! Et ce n'est pas la seule compagnie: http://www.yabiladi.com/articles/details/11833/apres-ryanair-easyjet-suspend-vols.html La suite semblerait se trouver ici. Bizarre ! 😐
« Ryanair distribuera maintenant cette capacité ailleurs, sur les nombreux autres marchés cherchant sérieusement à développer la croissance de Ryanair, ...
En tout cas ce ne sera pas l'Espagne car là aussi Ryannair compte supprimer plusieurs lignes suite aux hausses de taxes imposées par l'Espagne.🙁
J'avais lu un article du même genre voici peu de temps ! Et ce n'est pas la seule compagnie: http://www.yabiladi.com/articles/details/11833/apres-ryanair-easyjet-suspend-vols.html La suite semblerait se trouver ici. Bizarre ! 😐
« Ryanair distribuera maintenant cette capacité ailleurs, sur les nombreux autres marchés cherchant sérieusement à développer la croissance de Ryanair, ...
En tout cas ce ne sera pas l'Espagne car là aussi Ryannair compte supprimer plusieurs lignes suite aux hausses de taxes imposées par l'Espagne.🙁
Michelle
En tout cas ce ne sera pas l'Espagne car là aussi Ryannair compte supprimer plusieurs lignes suite aux hausses de taxes imposées par l'Espagne.🙁
... enfin les taxes ont bon dos lorsque l'on veut se desengager d'un marché devenu pas tres "juteux"
... enfin les taxes ont bon dos lorsque l'on veut se desengager d'un marché devenu pas tres "juteux"
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen!
Michel France (85)
Salut ,
Tout à fait d'accord avec toi ! 😉
Mon 🙁 était mis pour les futurs voyageurs qui seront les 1ers lésés !
Sans oublier les équipes au sol . 🙁 😕
Michelle
Bonjour a tous !
Impossible de savoir si cette compagnie va garder ses lignes sur le MAROC , en effet il n' y a plus de vols apres le 8 novembre 😕
Quelqu' un aurait-il des renseignements ? Je suis incapable de trouver l' information sur Ryanair .com .
Merci d' avance .
Mais de quel aéroport souhaitez vous décoller et pour quel destination? car d'aprés la presse seul ; Nador/Gerone, Nador/Madrid, Oujda/Marseille, Oujda/Bruxelles-Charleroi, Fez/Londres-Stansted et Marrakech/Valence seront arrètés ensuite pour les vols ;Tanger/Madrid, Fez/Bruxelles-Charleroi et Marrakech/Londres-Luton auront des reduction de vol hebdo
Mais de quel aéroport souhaitez vous décoller et pour quel destination? car d'aprés la presse seul ; Nador/Gerone, Nador/Madrid, Oujda/Marseille, Oujda/Bruxelles-Charleroi, Fez/Londres-Stansted et Marrakech/Valence seront arrètés ensuite pour les vols ;Tanger/Madrid, Fez/Bruxelles-Charleroi et Marrakech/Londres-Luton auront des reduction de vol hebdo
voici la liste des vols au 1 er octobre
Cancelled Routes
Weekly Flights
Effective
Nador - Girona
4
1st Oct
Nador - Madrid
4
1st Oct
Oujda – Marseille
4
1st Oct
Oujda – Brussels Charleroi
4
1st Oct
Fez – London Stansted
4
1st Oct
Marrakesh - Valencia
6
1st Oct
Route Reductions
Weekly Flights
Effective
Tangier - Madrid
4
1st Oct
Fez-Brussels-Charleroi
2
1st Oct
Marrakech-London Luton
2
Merci a tous pour ces nombreuses réponses .
Comme écrit plus haut ce qui m' interesse c' est le vol Gerone - Marrakech .
Ensuite entre ce qu' écrit la presse et la réalité il doit y avoir une certaine marge ( dans ce cas particulier ), en effet lorsque je veux acheter un billet d' avion c' est sur le site du transporteur que je vais voir les possibilités 😉 et justement ( comme deja dit ) il n' existe aucun vol a la vente apres le 8 novembre sur Marrakech 🤪 et cela quelque soit la ville de départ ( désolé si je me repete ) .
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Hi everyone, I’ve unfortunately only just noticed that I booked two flight tickets, but I made a mistake on the second first name. Basically, my computer auto-filled and typed my first name twice, so both tickets are in my first name. Only the last names—mine and my friend’s—are correct.
TAP Portugal refuses to make the change because they consider it a change of passenger, even though it’s clearly a typo (plus, my last name isn’t common). I’m leaving in 5 days, and buying a new ticket would cost 3 times the original price. Has anyone been in this situation before? I’d like to try negotiating at the airport, but it’s a gamble… Thanks in advance for any advice!
TAP Portugal refuses to make the change because they consider it a change of passenger, even though it’s clearly a typo (plus, my last name isn’t common). I’m leaving in 5 days, and buying a new ticket would cost 3 times the original price. Has anyone been in this situation before? I’d like to try negotiating at the airport, but it’s a gamble… Thanks in advance for any advice!
Hello,
Since it came into force, Regulation 261/2004 of the European Parliament and Council, which defines air passenger rights, has faced fierce resistance from airlines, backed by IATA (the association representing almost all passenger airlines).
Beyond the airlines' often abusive—and even frequently bad-faith—resistance to passenger rights, IATA has been lobbying EU institutions for years, with the Council paying close attention for a long time.
As a result, the Council and the Commission have been proposing revisions to Regulation 261/2004 for years that are particularly unfavorable to passengers. The latest attempt nearly eliminated the right to compensation for delays of 3 hours or more upon arrival at the final destination.
However, since this is a regulation of both the European Parliament AND the Council, the two bodies had to agree.
But the European Parliament has always stood firm, consistently responding that passenger rights must be preserved.
After 11 years of struggle, it seems likely that we’re finally nearing the end of the match between the European Commission, the Council (the 27 heads of state or government), and the European Parliament.
Indeed, the Commission and the European Parliament have agreed on a text that will be debated again on Monday, July 6, 2026, with a vote scheduled for July 7, 2026. It’s very likely that this text, which would come into force in a year, will be adopted.
The main changes would be as follows: - Families with children will no longer be forced to pay to sit together on planes; - A flight will be considered canceled (not just delayed) if it departs more than one hour late; - Right to compensation for arrival at the final destination if the delay exceeds 3 hours (no longer "3 hours OR more"). The arrival time will be when the plane, having reached its parking spot, engages its parking brakes (no longer when the aircraft door opens); - Airlines can no longer refuse boarding or charge extra on the return flight for a passenger who didn’t take the outbound flight; - If a flight is canceled, the airline must, at the same time as informing passengers of the event, offer the choice between a refund and re-routing, and inform them of their rights to assistance and, if applicable, compensation; - The airline must, without undue delay, inform passengers of the reason; - In the case of a connecting flight, if the connection is missed and the delay at the final destination entitles the passenger to compensation, the responsible airline will be liable. This is very different from the current situation, where, under the KLM ruling, any airline operating a segment of the flight is liable for compensation. This promises more disputes that the Court of Justice of the European Union will have to resolve if two separate airlines operating segments of a connecting flight are both responsible for the delay. See this case for an example: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2026/04/18/swiss-international-air-lines-la-mauvaise-foi/ Moreover, this case demonstrates in advance another potential dispute: It could be argued that it wasn’t a missed connection since the flight was canceled before the first leg even departed. - Within 96 hours of a flight that could entitle passengers to compensation, the airline must contact them to inform them of their rights and explain the next steps. - Passengers must claim their right to compensation within 9 months. This is very different from the current situation, as Regulation 261/2004 sets no time limit. Currently, national law applies—in France, the limit is 5 years. The airline must respond within 30 days. If the airline refuses compensation on the grounds of "extraordinary circumstances," it must specify which type of case it refers to from the list in the annex of the new regulation. If the case isn’t on the list, the airline must explain what the event was, why it qualifies as extraordinary circumstances with "clear, substantial, and concise" explanations, and why it’s directly linked to the reason given. It must also declare what "reasonable measures" were taken to mitigate the issue. This is, of course, a huge change in the regulation, with the clear goal of preventing airlines from declaring just anything as "extraordinary circumstances" to avoid compensation. - If, within 3 hours of a last-minute canceled or delayed flight, the airline hasn’t offered re-routing under comparable transport conditions and as soon as possible—whether on one of its own flights or another airline’s—the passenger will have the right to arrange their own re-routing and demand a refund for the new ticket, up to 400% of the original ticket price. This is a significant improvement that would have likely prevented the case described here: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2024/01/12/reacheminement-catastrophique-droit-indemnisation-meme-circonstances-extraordinaires-2/ - If a flight is canceled due to "extraordinary circumstances," the airline will only be required to offer up to 3 nights in a hotel. This is a major change, as there’s currently no limit. Expect disputes if the extraordinary circumstances end while the passenger hasn’t been re-routed. - The price of a flight, as first displayed, must obligatorily include a cabin bag. This doesn’t prevent the airline from offering a price reduction if the passenger waives the cabin bag. This will put an end to abnormal practices, such as (just one example) Condor charging extra for a cabin bag on long-haul flights like Frankfurt (Germany)–Puerto Plata (Dominican Republic)–Santo Domingo (Dominican Republic)–Frankfurt. - Free correction of a passenger’s name if requested 48 hours before departure. Note: This can’t be used to replace one passenger with another—just to correct a typo, e.g., Dupont instead of Dpont. - Airlines’ websites and apps must include information on how to file a claim.
It’s clear that, despite a few details, these changes are very positive for upholding passenger rights. It remains to be seen whether this text will be definitively adopted on July 7, 2026, as is very likely, and, more importantly, whether IATA will encourage airlines to loyally respect these new rules or persist in their old habits.
Best regards,
Since it came into force, Regulation 261/2004 of the European Parliament and Council, which defines air passenger rights, has faced fierce resistance from airlines, backed by IATA (the association representing almost all passenger airlines).
Beyond the airlines' often abusive—and even frequently bad-faith—resistance to passenger rights, IATA has been lobbying EU institutions for years, with the Council paying close attention for a long time.
As a result, the Council and the Commission have been proposing revisions to Regulation 261/2004 for years that are particularly unfavorable to passengers. The latest attempt nearly eliminated the right to compensation for delays of 3 hours or more upon arrival at the final destination.
However, since this is a regulation of both the European Parliament AND the Council, the two bodies had to agree.
But the European Parliament has always stood firm, consistently responding that passenger rights must be preserved.
After 11 years of struggle, it seems likely that we’re finally nearing the end of the match between the European Commission, the Council (the 27 heads of state or government), and the European Parliament.
Indeed, the Commission and the European Parliament have agreed on a text that will be debated again on Monday, July 6, 2026, with a vote scheduled for July 7, 2026. It’s very likely that this text, which would come into force in a year, will be adopted.
The main changes would be as follows: - Families with children will no longer be forced to pay to sit together on planes; - A flight will be considered canceled (not just delayed) if it departs more than one hour late; - Right to compensation for arrival at the final destination if the delay exceeds 3 hours (no longer "3 hours OR more"). The arrival time will be when the plane, having reached its parking spot, engages its parking brakes (no longer when the aircraft door opens); - Airlines can no longer refuse boarding or charge extra on the return flight for a passenger who didn’t take the outbound flight; - If a flight is canceled, the airline must, at the same time as informing passengers of the event, offer the choice between a refund and re-routing, and inform them of their rights to assistance and, if applicable, compensation; - The airline must, without undue delay, inform passengers of the reason; - In the case of a connecting flight, if the connection is missed and the delay at the final destination entitles the passenger to compensation, the responsible airline will be liable. This is very different from the current situation, where, under the KLM ruling, any airline operating a segment of the flight is liable for compensation. This promises more disputes that the Court of Justice of the European Union will have to resolve if two separate airlines operating segments of a connecting flight are both responsible for the delay. See this case for an example: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2026/04/18/swiss-international-air-lines-la-mauvaise-foi/ Moreover, this case demonstrates in advance another potential dispute: It could be argued that it wasn’t a missed connection since the flight was canceled before the first leg even departed. - Within 96 hours of a flight that could entitle passengers to compensation, the airline must contact them to inform them of their rights and explain the next steps. - Passengers must claim their right to compensation within 9 months. This is very different from the current situation, as Regulation 261/2004 sets no time limit. Currently, national law applies—in France, the limit is 5 years. The airline must respond within 30 days. If the airline refuses compensation on the grounds of "extraordinary circumstances," it must specify which type of case it refers to from the list in the annex of the new regulation. If the case isn’t on the list, the airline must explain what the event was, why it qualifies as extraordinary circumstances with "clear, substantial, and concise" explanations, and why it’s directly linked to the reason given. It must also declare what "reasonable measures" were taken to mitigate the issue. This is, of course, a huge change in the regulation, with the clear goal of preventing airlines from declaring just anything as "extraordinary circumstances" to avoid compensation. - If, within 3 hours of a last-minute canceled or delayed flight, the airline hasn’t offered re-routing under comparable transport conditions and as soon as possible—whether on one of its own flights or another airline’s—the passenger will have the right to arrange their own re-routing and demand a refund for the new ticket, up to 400% of the original ticket price. This is a significant improvement that would have likely prevented the case described here: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2024/01/12/reacheminement-catastrophique-droit-indemnisation-meme-circonstances-extraordinaires-2/ - If a flight is canceled due to "extraordinary circumstances," the airline will only be required to offer up to 3 nights in a hotel. This is a major change, as there’s currently no limit. Expect disputes if the extraordinary circumstances end while the passenger hasn’t been re-routed. - The price of a flight, as first displayed, must obligatorily include a cabin bag. This doesn’t prevent the airline from offering a price reduction if the passenger waives the cabin bag. This will put an end to abnormal practices, such as (just one example) Condor charging extra for a cabin bag on long-haul flights like Frankfurt (Germany)–Puerto Plata (Dominican Republic)–Santo Domingo (Dominican Republic)–Frankfurt. - Free correction of a passenger’s name if requested 48 hours before departure. Note: This can’t be used to replace one passenger with another—just to correct a typo, e.g., Dupont instead of Dpont. - Airlines’ websites and apps must include information on how to file a claim.
It’s clear that, despite a few details, these changes are very positive for upholding passenger rights. It remains to be seen whether this text will be definitively adopted on July 7, 2026, as is very likely, and, more importantly, whether IATA will encourage airlines to loyally respect these new rules or persist in their old habits.
Best regards,
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Georgia this summer and I’ve been comparing some airlines. I’m not particularly set on flying with Pegasus (though it’s convenient with direct flights from Lyon to Tbilisi), but right off the bat, Pegasus states this:
As of January 1, 2026, all foreign nationals traveling to Georgia for tourism purposes will be required to present valid travel health insurance. Guests who fail to provide the relevant health insurance will not be accepted on our flights to Georgia. Sincerely, Pegasus Airlines
In other words, if you don’t show proof of travel health insurance, you’ll be denied boarding. Personally, my credit card insurance has always been enough for me, and I’d rather not take out extra coverage... Have any of you run into this issue before? If not, what do you think? Why is Pegasus asking for this proof? Other airlines don’t mention it at all.
I’m planning a trip to Georgia this summer and I’ve been comparing some airlines. I’m not particularly set on flying with Pegasus (though it’s convenient with direct flights from Lyon to Tbilisi), but right off the bat, Pegasus states this:
As of January 1, 2026, all foreign nationals traveling to Georgia for tourism purposes will be required to present valid travel health insurance. Guests who fail to provide the relevant health insurance will not be accepted on our flights to Georgia. Sincerely, Pegasus Airlines
In other words, if you don’t show proof of travel health insurance, you’ll be denied boarding. Personally, my credit card insurance has always been enough for me, and I’d rather not take out extra coverage... Have any of you run into this issue before? If not, what do you think? Why is Pegasus asking for this proof? Other airlines don’t mention it at all.
Hi,
I bought my flight ticket with my first (usual) first name, which appears first on my passport. However, I have two first names on my passport, and of course, it’s mentioned in the machine-readable zone at the bottom.
I booked with Turkish Airlines (through an online agency) for a trip to South Korea.
I wanted to know if it would be a problem that I only used my first first name on the ticket, while my passport has two. I had requested through the agency to add the second first name, but the airline refused because it doesn’t meet their general conditions. (They must have seen that the last name and first name were the same, and only the second first name was added.)
So, my ticket has my last name and first first name correctly spelled, and when I check in online, I’ll enter the passport details correctly.
I’ll have a layover in Istanbul on the flight.
Thanks in advance for your replies. Have a great day.
I bought my flight ticket with my first (usual) first name, which appears first on my passport. However, I have two first names on my passport, and of course, it’s mentioned in the machine-readable zone at the bottom.
I booked with Turkish Airlines (through an online agency) for a trip to South Korea.
I wanted to know if it would be a problem that I only used my first first name on the ticket, while my passport has two. I had requested through the agency to add the second first name, but the airline refused because it doesn’t meet their general conditions. (They must have seen that the last name and first name were the same, and only the second first name was added.)
So, my ticket has my last name and first first name correctly spelled, and when I check in online, I’ll enter the passport details correctly.
I’ll have a layover in Istanbul on the flight.
Thanks in advance for your replies. Have a great day.
Hi there,
I traveled in June 2025 with Nouvelair Destinations to Hammamet.
I had one checked bag and one carry-on sized 40x24x30, which I usually take on low-cost flights, and I didn’t have any issues. But I just read on a website that Nouvel Air only accepts carry-ons of 40x20x15. I’m flying back to Djerba in June—what do you think? Especially since that size is impossible to find??????? Thanks
Hi, it's my first time taking a plane and I chose EasyJet for a Geneva -> Barcelona flight.
I booked my ticket.
I received my booking reference by email, but I don’t see the actual ticket (barcode or QR code?).
Then I checked in to get the boarding pass with the flight details, QR code, etc. But does this boarding pass act as the ticket?
Because I’ve seen several times online that the flight ticket and the boarding pass aren’t the same thing.
Thanks in advance!
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
We're leaving for Albania on June 18th. When I validated the flight tickets with Wizz Air on Booking, I only put my son's first name but forgot to include his other three first names on the ticket. On the passport: SURNAME: Dupont, FIRST NAMES: toto titi tutu tata On the flight ticket: SURNAME: Dupont, FIRST NAME: toto I can't seem to reach anyone at Wizz Air to get an answer. Booking and Wizz Air's chat say I need to modify it, but ChatGPT says it should be fine. I wanted to know if he can fly like this or if I need to change his ticket? (It costs 140 €, I know I shouldn't have made a mistake🙁)
Thanks for your feedback.
We're leaving for Albania on June 18th. When I validated the flight tickets with Wizz Air on Booking, I only put my son's first name but forgot to include his other three first names on the ticket. On the passport: SURNAME: Dupont, FIRST NAMES: toto titi tutu tata On the flight ticket: SURNAME: Dupont, FIRST NAME: toto I can't seem to reach anyone at Wizz Air to get an answer. Booking and Wizz Air's chat say I need to modify it, but ChatGPT says it should be fine. I wanted to know if he can fly like this or if I need to change his ticket? (It costs 140 €, I know I shouldn't have made a mistake🙁)
Thanks for your feedback.
Hi,
A pretty serious issue has come up in the past few weeks for traveling to Tanzania.
What’s the deal with airlines in Tanzania? https://www.capital.fr/economie-politique/ce-pays-est-tres-touristique-mais-ses-compagnies-aeriennes-sont-placees-sur-liste-noire-par-l-europe-1515325 https://www.charentelibre.fr/tourisme/la-tanzanie-sur-liste-noire-de-l-europe-des-vols-interieurs-a-haut-risque-pour-100-000-touristes-francais-25002566.php
Basically, all airlines have been blacklisted because they don’t meet European safety standards. They’re banned from flying in Europe but continue operating in Tanzania. The main issue is that travel agencies’ civil liability no longer applies to blacklisted airlines. So we can’t allow clients to fly with these carriers. Of course, there’s huge pressure from European agencies, which are forced to disrupt their plans or even cancel trips because of this. Personally, I’ve got a trip planned for February 2026 to the southern parks in Tanzania, so I’ll be keeping an eye on how this develops. Do any of you have updates? Thanks!
Loïc
A pretty serious issue has come up in the past few weeks for traveling to Tanzania.
What’s the deal with airlines in Tanzania? https://www.capital.fr/economie-politique/ce-pays-est-tres-touristique-mais-ses-compagnies-aeriennes-sont-placees-sur-liste-noire-par-l-europe-1515325 https://www.charentelibre.fr/tourisme/la-tanzanie-sur-liste-noire-de-l-europe-des-vols-interieurs-a-haut-risque-pour-100-000-touristes-francais-25002566.php
Basically, all airlines have been blacklisted because they don’t meet European safety standards. They’re banned from flying in Europe but continue operating in Tanzania. The main issue is that travel agencies’ civil liability no longer applies to blacklisted airlines. So we can’t allow clients to fly with these carriers. Of course, there’s huge pressure from European agencies, which are forced to disrupt their plans or even cancel trips because of this. Personally, I’ve got a trip planned for February 2026 to the southern parks in Tanzania, so I’ll be keeping an eye on how this develops. Do any of you have updates? Thanks!
Loïc
Hi,
Right now, with the war raging in Iran and affecting all the neighboring countries of the Persian Gulf, many airports are completely closed to all traffic.
Several airlines like Qatar Airways, Emirates, and others have almost completely halted their operations.
Whether in the Middle East or Africa, many travelers are stranded—maybe for a long time... A heartfelt thought for them and the struggles this will cause.
Four months ago, I was in Kenya with a flight booked through Qatar Airways... I can’t even imagine how I’d react if I were stuck there now. ??
Wishing all these travelers courage, patience, and success in making it back home.
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Doha Airport on October 21, 2025:

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Right now, with the war raging in Iran and affecting all the neighboring countries of the Persian Gulf, many airports are completely closed to all traffic.
Several airlines like Qatar Airways, Emirates, and others have almost completely halted their operations.
Whether in the Middle East or Africa, many travelers are stranded—maybe for a long time... A heartfelt thought for them and the struggles this will cause.
Four months ago, I was in Kenya with a flight booked through Qatar Airways... I can’t even imagine how I’d react if I were stuck there now. ??
Wishing all these travelers courage, patience, and success in making it back home.
...
Doha Airport on October 21, 2025:

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Hello, some (potentially) good news for Brazil lovers—GOL airline is launching a route to Europe from Rio, starting in September for Lisbon, then Paris at a later date that hasn’t been announced yet.
They’ll be using their new A330-900 neo.
No prices have been announced so far, but hopefully we’ll find direct flights from GIG at a more interesting fare than AF or Latam…
Hello,
I’m really surprised because in TUI’s new tour packages, the airlines they’re using are of low quality. Before, they used to prioritize major airlines, but now it’s small airlines from small countries—companies with terrible ratings and borderline safety concerns. I even just noticed this note for a Tanzania trip: "We inform you that the domestic flight segment in Tanzania included in your trip is operated by an airline listed on the European Union’s list of air carriers subject to an operating ban within the European Union. This ban only applies to European Union airspace, meaning this airline is not permitted to take off, land, or fly over European airspace. However, this airline is authorized to operate in Tanzania."
This means they’re using airlines on the blacklist!! It’s pretty worrying for safety. What do you all think?
I’m really surprised because in TUI’s new tour packages, the airlines they’re using are of low quality. Before, they used to prioritize major airlines, but now it’s small airlines from small countries—companies with terrible ratings and borderline safety concerns. I even just noticed this note for a Tanzania trip: "We inform you that the domestic flight segment in Tanzania included in your trip is operated by an airline listed on the European Union’s list of air carriers subject to an operating ban within the European Union. This ban only applies to European Union airspace, meaning this airline is not permitted to take off, land, or fly over European airspace. However, this airline is authorized to operate in Tanzania."
This means they’re using airlines on the blacklist!! It’s pretty worrying for safety. What do you all think?
Hello,
We’re planning a cruise to the UAE/QATAR/OMAN starting from DUBAI, with flights departing from Paris CDG. Which airlines would you recommend for round-trip flights, with or without a layover? We need assistance for check-in and boarding/disembarking (my husband is a mobility-impaired traveler who uses a cane and/or a walker). We’ve done a cruise return from Dubai to Paris CDG before in 2016, with a layover in Istanbul, but we booked the transfer and return flight with COSTA. For our current plan, it would be with Celestyal, which doesn’t offer round-trip flights from Paris to Dubai. Should we book very far in advance, or is a few months before departure enough (4/6 months)? We’re thinking of arriving the day before the ship departs, so we’d need to stay overnight in Dubai—either on the way there or for the return flight, depending on the flight schedules. Could you recommend a hotel not too far from the airport, and how to get to the port from the airport?
Thanks so much for your advice. Have a great Sunday! Mum49
We’re planning a cruise to the UAE/QATAR/OMAN starting from DUBAI, with flights departing from Paris CDG. Which airlines would you recommend for round-trip flights, with or without a layover? We need assistance for check-in and boarding/disembarking (my husband is a mobility-impaired traveler who uses a cane and/or a walker). We’ve done a cruise return from Dubai to Paris CDG before in 2016, with a layover in Istanbul, but we booked the transfer and return flight with COSTA. For our current plan, it would be with Celestyal, which doesn’t offer round-trip flights from Paris to Dubai. Should we book very far in advance, or is a few months before departure enough (4/6 months)? We’re thinking of arriving the day before the ship departs, so we’d need to stay overnight in Dubai—either on the way there or for the return flight, depending on the flight schedules. Could you recommend a hotel not too far from the airport, and how to get to the port from the airport?
Thanks so much for your advice. Have a great Sunday! Mum49
Hi,
It's all in the title—this means nothing's getting through, so no more oil.
In Europe, kerosene reserves are still good, but by the end of April, flights will have to be reduced.
European airports fear running out of kerosene if the Strait of Hormuz isn’t reopened within three weeks
Bluff or not? Stay tuned....
Bluff or not? Stay tuned....
Hi everyone,
I’m reaching out to ask for your help with a bit of a problem:
I booked a flight to Berlin from Orly for April 15th—it’s coming up fast. But I just made an annoying discovery: my passport expired two weeks ago.
From what I understand, in principle, I can still travel within the Schengen Zone with an expired passport as long as it’s been less than five years. However, EasyJet’s website explicitly requires a valid ID (and just to add to the fun, my national ID card has been expired for a while now).
So, I’d love to know: how strict are EasyJet’s ID checks? Do they enforce validity rules strictly and refuse boarding if the ID isn’t valid? Or is it more of a luck-of-the-draw situation?
Basically, should I just write off this trip now, or should I still try my luck—maybe with a little tearful plea? Has anyone here had a similar experience? I can’t be the only one, right!
I’m reaching out to ask for your help with a bit of a problem:
I booked a flight to Berlin from Orly for April 15th—it’s coming up fast. But I just made an annoying discovery: my passport expired two weeks ago.
From what I understand, in principle, I can still travel within the Schengen Zone with an expired passport as long as it’s been less than five years. However, EasyJet’s website explicitly requires a valid ID (and just to add to the fun, my national ID card has been expired for a while now).
So, I’d love to know: how strict are EasyJet’s ID checks? Do they enforce validity rules strictly and refuse boarding if the ID isn’t valid? Or is it more of a luck-of-the-draw situation?
Basically, should I just write off this trip now, or should I still try my luck—maybe with a little tearful plea? Has anyone here had a similar experience? I can’t be the only one, right!
Hi there!
Has anyone taken the direct flight from CDG to Las Vegas with Air France?
Looking forward to your feedback!
Hey everyone,
I booked a flight with RyanAir for next month, with the priority+ option and two cabin bags. So I can take a 10 kg bag with dimensions 55x40x20 in the cabin (plus another smaller one). The problem is that the smallest suitcase I have (which is supposed to be designed specifically for cabin size standards, according to the manual) has the following dimensions: 55x37x21, so it's just 1 cm over (wheels included) on one of the measurements.
I wasn’t too worried at first, but I’ve read dozens of stories about people’s misadventures and the hassles they’ve had with RyanAir.
Since I don’t want my suitcase to end up in the hold (that would waste time picking it up when I’m already arriving late and need to get to the city center), nor do I want to pay an extra fee (apparently 50 €) for the outbound and return flights for just 1 centimeter—especially since I paid for the "priority+" option and I’m not exactly rolling in money—I’d love some advice.
Have any of you been in the same situation? I’ve read that with this airline, they check bags in templates (testing them in different positions) and are completely uncompromising. I tried contacting customer service, who, as luck would have it, "don’t handle this kind of request," and a rep I spoke to wasn’t much help.
I know it’s a low-cost airline, and I don’t expect luxury or even kindness, but come on—just 1 cm on a short flight with the + option... I’m a bit overwhelmed by everything I’ve read...
Just to clarify, since I’m going for 8 days, I can’t just take one bag for my stuff. I’ve done that for shorter trips before, and it was a hassle—I even had to buy an extra bag for the return trip... Luckily, the inspector was nice about it!
Thanks so much! I’m a newbie when it comes to air travel :) Hope I posted this in the right section!
I booked a flight with RyanAir for next month, with the priority+ option and two cabin bags. So I can take a 10 kg bag with dimensions 55x40x20 in the cabin (plus another smaller one). The problem is that the smallest suitcase I have (which is supposed to be designed specifically for cabin size standards, according to the manual) has the following dimensions: 55x37x21, so it's just 1 cm over (wheels included) on one of the measurements.
I wasn’t too worried at first, but I’ve read dozens of stories about people’s misadventures and the hassles they’ve had with RyanAir.
Since I don’t want my suitcase to end up in the hold (that would waste time picking it up when I’m already arriving late and need to get to the city center), nor do I want to pay an extra fee (apparently 50 €) for the outbound and return flights for just 1 centimeter—especially since I paid for the "priority+" option and I’m not exactly rolling in money—I’d love some advice.
Have any of you been in the same situation? I’ve read that with this airline, they check bags in templates (testing them in different positions) and are completely uncompromising. I tried contacting customer service, who, as luck would have it, "don’t handle this kind of request," and a rep I spoke to wasn’t much help.
I know it’s a low-cost airline, and I don’t expect luxury or even kindness, but come on—just 1 cm on a short flight with the + option... I’m a bit overwhelmed by everything I’ve read...
Just to clarify, since I’m going for 8 days, I can’t just take one bag for my stuff. I’ve done that for shorter trips before, and it was a hassle—I even had to buy an extra bag for the return trip... Luckily, the inspector was nice about it!
Thanks so much! I’m a newbie when it comes to air travel :) Hope I posted this in the right section!
Hi there,
When I run searches on Skyscanner, I see that only Lufthansa has flights to Seoul with just one stop. Air France doesn’t show up, even though I thought the French airline served Seoul? I can’t even log into the Air France website—it keeps glitching.
When I run searches on Skyscanner, I see that only Lufthansa has flights to Seoul with just one stop. Air France doesn’t show up, even though I thought the French airline served Seoul? I can’t even log into the Air France website—it keeps glitching.
Hi there,
I’d like to return to Uzbekistan next April for 10 days with my husband to visit our son who lives there. We went last July and I bought the flight tickets (direct flight from Paris on Uzbekistan Airways) about 2 months in advance at very reasonable prices. I’ve been checking for late April for a few weeks now, and the tickets are much more expensive and keep rising. I can’t figure out if the prices are going up because it’s still a bit too early to buy and they’ll likely drop if the planes aren’t full, or if it’s because the period is actually in high demand. For reference, last year I bought my son’s ticket on May 30th for a departure on June 3rd—just 3 days later—at a very low price that didn’t budge at all.
Just in case, does anyone know the pricing trends for this airline and can advise me? Should I wait or not?
Thanks, and feel free to ask if you need any tips about the country!
My wife bought a flight ticket (Lucky Air) under her Thai maiden name and was issued a Chinese visa on her new Thai passport but with her French married name (due to administrative requirements). She was denied boarding by the airline in Bangkok for the flight to Kunming—resulting in the loss of our round-trip flight tickets, including mine since we were traveling together—despite presenting both passports at the airline counter at the same time.
Hi there.
I’m planning a trip to Chile, and the fares from the Colombian airline Avianca are really appealing.
Way cheaper than Air France, for example.
That said, the reviews I’ve seen online aren’t great.
What do you think of this airline?
Have any of you taken long-haul flights with Avianca?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Eric
Hi there,
This might be a silly question, but I’m traveling to Japan from CDG and returning via Osaka with EVA Air, and I have a pretty bulky aluminum knee brace. It’s this model: https://enovis-medtech.eu/fr_FR/OA-FullForce-74358.html
Has anyone had any experience with airport security checks or flying with one of these?
Thanks in advance! Best regards,
This might be a silly question, but I’m traveling to Japan from CDG and returning via Osaka with EVA Air, and I have a pretty bulky aluminum knee brace. It’s this model: https://enovis-medtech.eu/fr_FR/OA-FullForce-74358.html
Has anyone had any experience with airport security checks or flying with one of these?
Thanks in advance! Best regards,
Hi there,
I can't seem to find flights between the Cape Verde islands on the airline's website. No matter the date or route, I always get the same response: "no flights on this date." See the photo. Would anyone have an explanation? Surely not all flights are fully booked in July?
Best, Thierry
I can't seem to find flights between the Cape Verde islands on the airline's website. No matter the date or route, I always get the same response: "no flights on this date." See the photo. Would anyone have an explanation? Surely not all flights are fully booked in July?
Best, Thierry






