Le safari humain
by Geob
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Le sage ne s'etonne de rien, il accepte avec equanimite toutes choses. Au fur et a mesure que le temps passe, ma volonte d'acquerir cet etat de sagesse voit souvent la realite lui claquer la porte au nez...comme aujourd'hui. Ce matin, je me suis rendu compte a quel point mes detestations peuvent etre toujours vives. Pres de l'hopital de Vang Vieng, j'ai croise une touriste ravie, le sourire jusqu'aux oreilles, parce qu'elle venait de prendre en photo, a une dizaine de metres d'ou elle se trouvait, avec son tele objectif, un couple de laos et leur enfant sur une moto a l'arret. La photo du siecle ! Elle aurait pu s'approcher d'eux, echanger quelques mots, puis les photographier une fois que la moto aurait demarrer...mais non ! Elle s'est crue dans la savane africaine, en train de surprendre un troupeau de gazelles !
Pire encore ! Il y a quelques jours, j'ai vu une autre touriste, pres d'une ecole ou les enfants jouaient dans un immense espace qui leur tient lieu de cour de recreation, clos par des barbeles (!). Elle s'est mise a les photographier, discretement, munie d'un gros tele objectif. Photographier des enfants avec un tele objectif...en Asie ! Si elle s'etait introduite dans la cour de recreation, une myriade d'enfants l'auraient entourer, les instits seraient sortis a sa rencontre, et alors elle aurait eu qu'un seul probleme pour faire ses photos : eviter qu'ils posent ! Elle a prefere se planquer, photographier en louceder, en maraude, des fois que les enfants mordraient !
Decidement, je voue une detestation profonde pour les touristes qui photographient les etres humains au tele objectif, comme dans un safari animalier !
Pour ma part, je photographie les gens sans me cacher, souvent meme en discutant avec eux, avec un "jetable" ou un simple appareil ou il suffit de cadrer et d'appuyer sur un bouton - pendant que j'y suis, je solde mes detestations : ainsi ces touristes qui levent leurs bras, avec leur appareil numerique dans leurs mains qu'ils semblent offrir au neant, tels les sectataires d'une religion obligee.
Allez donc parler aux gens, n'hesitez pas, photographiez vite, ne restez pas une heure avec l'appareil entre vous, vous constaterez que vous aurez rarement des refus imperatifs !
Voyager c'est découvrir que tout le monde a tort.
Aldous Huxley
Bonjour,
La visite de pays, comme on visite un zoo, n'est pas une nouveauté ni une rareté ! il suffit de voir les descriptions dans les catalogues des voyagistes! Visite du village Masai, pendant le safari photo dans la réserve, du village de telle tribu karen pendant l'excursion au triangle d'or, prévoir les échantillons de parfums, ils en raffollent ! Et les bidochons qui traversent des villages en balançant bonbons, stylos, et objets publicitaires pour avoir le plaisir de voir les gosses se battre !
Ton titre : chapeau ! exactement le terme choisi !!!!
La visite de pays, comme on visite un zoo, n'est pas une nouveauté ni une rareté ! il suffit de voir les descriptions dans les catalogues des voyagistes! Visite du village Masai, pendant le safari photo dans la réserve, du village de telle tribu karen pendant l'excursion au triangle d'or, prévoir les échantillons de parfums, ils en raffollent ! Et les bidochons qui traversent des villages en balançant bonbons, stylos, et objets publicitaires pour avoir le plaisir de voir les gosses se battre !
Ton titre : chapeau ! exactement le terme choisi !!!!
Dans mes voyages, en général je n'ose pas trop photographier les gens.
Mais cela devient beaucoup plus évident avec ceux avec qui j'ai pu partager un moment où échanger quelques mots.
Au pérou je me suis retrouvée dans la situation où je visitais un site (Ollantaytambo) où j'ai croisé un groupe de collégiens en voyage scolaire. Ils ont tous voulu se faire photographier avec moi, et sur le coup je me suis senti un peu le "singe" sorti de la jungle! Mais ce fut un sympathique moment partagé avec des enfants du pays!
Par contre j'ai un peu de mal avec les gens qui viennent vers toi en te réclamant une pièce pour pouvoir les photographier, je n'aime pas ce rapport strictement pécunier avec les touristes.
Bien d'accord avec toi Geob et les autres, alors qu'il suffit simplement d'OSER PARTAGER ! Ai-je dit un gros mot ?
Geli 😉
😉Salut Geob,
le probleme en Asie (surtout Thailande et Laos) c'est comme tu l'as dit, les gens posent!!! donc la photo, n'a plus vraiment la meme "valeure"!!!
mais bon tu a raison de signaler ce zoophénomene!!!
A+
le probleme en Asie (surtout Thailande et Laos) c'est comme tu l'as dit, les gens posent!!! donc la photo, n'a plus vraiment la meme "valeure"!!!
mais bon tu a raison de signaler ce zoophénomene!!!
A+
Un voyage de mille lis a commencé par un pas. (Lao-Tseu ; 1 lis=ancienne mesure chinoise équivalente a 576m définie des la dynastie Qin, mais qui variait selon la région et l'époque, valeur actuelle 500m, le li est une mesure coréenne d'environ 3920m)
pour les pti curieux!!! le chien subliminaleeu
Je suis d'accord avec toi, et tout dépend de ce qu'on recherche dans les photos.
Si c'est pour épater les copains au retour avec un petit commentaire sur l'affût que l'on a pratiqué .... tant mieux pour ceux qui aiment, mais c'est certainement frustrant.
Quand on a d'abord papoté, échangé, ri avec les gens et que la prise de photo n'est que la suite de cet échange, il me semble que tout est différent. Ce n'est plus la photo d'un quelconque individu que l'on regarde au retour, mais vient alors tout le souvenir de l'excellent moment qu'on a passé avec ces gens. La personne sur la photo a une réalité, ce n'est plus une image ; ce n'est plus une "chose", c'est un humain avec qui on a eu une relation. Et on comprend mieux la lumière de ses yeux.
Et comme dit geli, OSER PARTAGER ! n'est plus un gros mot !
Si c'est pour épater les copains au retour avec un petit commentaire sur l'affût que l'on a pratiqué .... tant mieux pour ceux qui aiment, mais c'est certainement frustrant.
Quand on a d'abord papoté, échangé, ri avec les gens et que la prise de photo n'est que la suite de cet échange, il me semble que tout est différent. Ce n'est plus la photo d'un quelconque individu que l'on regarde au retour, mais vient alors tout le souvenir de l'excellent moment qu'on a passé avec ces gens. La personne sur la photo a une réalité, ce n'est plus une image ; ce n'est plus une "chose", c'est un humain avec qui on a eu une relation. Et on comprend mieux la lumière de ses yeux.
Et comme dit geli, OSER PARTAGER ! n'est plus un gros mot !
Pascale.
Et on comprend mieux la lumière de ses yeux. Et comme dit geli, OSER PARTAGER ! n'est plus un gros mot !
J'aime beaucoup ce que tu as écrit... Dans les tourments de ma vie parisienne, j'avais quelque peu oublié l'importance de ce mot. Il m'a fallu aller à dix milles kilomètres pour réapprendre à nouveau à ne plus avoir "peur" des autres, et à profiter de chaque instant que donne la vie pour découvrir, apprendre, aimer, donner... et recevoir.
Pour preuve, depuis deux ans que je fréquente ce forum, je n'avais jamais osé trop m'exprimer, par peur de "trop" me dévoiler aux autres, et des retours que cela pourrait susciter. Et depuis que je suis rentrée de mon dernier voyage, je ressens sans cesse le besoin de rencontrer de nouvelles personnes, exprimer mes idées, et surtout écouter et essayer de comprendre celles des autres. Et cela fait un bien fou!
Alors, au passage, à tous ceux qui comme je l'ai été, sur ce forum regardent les autres converser, renseigner, taquiner, parfois se crêper le chignon, mais aussi remercier pour une info, quelques mots qui changeront peut être le cours de leur vie, n'ayez plus peur de partager avec eux! On a tant à apprendre des autres!
J'aime beaucoup ce que tu as écrit... Dans les tourments de ma vie parisienne, j'avais quelque peu oublié l'importance de ce mot. Il m'a fallu aller à dix milles kilomètres pour réapprendre à nouveau à ne plus avoir "peur" des autres, et à profiter de chaque instant que donne la vie pour découvrir, apprendre, aimer, donner... et recevoir.
Pour preuve, depuis deux ans que je fréquente ce forum, je n'avais jamais osé trop m'exprimer, par peur de "trop" me dévoiler aux autres, et des retours que cela pourrait susciter. Et depuis que je suis rentrée de mon dernier voyage, je ressens sans cesse le besoin de rencontrer de nouvelles personnes, exprimer mes idées, et surtout écouter et essayer de comprendre celles des autres. Et cela fait un bien fou!
Alors, au passage, à tous ceux qui comme je l'ai été, sur ce forum regardent les autres converser, renseigner, taquiner, parfois se crêper le chignon, mais aussi remercier pour une info, quelques mots qui changeront peut être le cours de leur vie, n'ayez plus peur de partager avec eux! On a tant à apprendre des autres!
Un message qui n'a pas vraiment d'utilité, juste pour le dire, parce que ça me semble approprié :
j'ai été comme ça, avec ma mère, au Cambodge justement. Mais ça m'a tellement choquée d'être comme ça, qu'à mon retour j'ai pas arrêté de penser au voyage, et je crois (j'espère) que je pourrais plus refaire ça.
Dur pourtant d'imaginer que ma mère (routarde, voyageuse, pas comme ces touristes de masse de voyage organisé qui ne regardent rien...) puisse elle-même ne pas voyager 'correctement'...
La sagesse, c'est d'avoir des rêves suffisament grands pour ne pas les perdre quand on les poursuit.
...elle venait de prendre en photo, a une dizaine de metres d'ou elle se trouvait, avec son tele objectif, un couple de laos et leur enfant sur une moto a l'arret. La photo du siecle ! Elle aurait pu s'approcher d'eux, echanger quelques mots, puis les photographier une fois que la moto aurait demarrer...mais non ! Elle s'est crue dans la savane africaine, en train de surprendre un troupeau de gazelles ! ... Allez donc parler aux gens, n'hesitez pas, photographiez vite, ne restez pas une heure avec l'appareil entre vous, vous constaterez que vous aurez rarement des refus imperatifs !
Comme beaucoup de photographes, il m'arrive de prendre en photo des personnes prises au loin... discrètement... en voyage ou dans ma ville... pas un instant je ne me considère en safari... j'essaie de saisir l'instant présent... si je commence à m'entretenir avec les personnes pour ensuite les prendre en photo, le résultat ne sera pas le même...
Bien évidemment, on peut porter un jugement moral sur cette façon de prendre les gens au télé-objectif... mais j'ai plus l'impression qu'il s'agit d'une tempête dans un verre d'eau...
Comme beaucoup de photographes, il m'arrive de prendre en photo des personnes prises au loin... discrètement... en voyage ou dans ma ville... pas un instant je ne me considère en safari... j'essaie de saisir l'instant présent... si je commence à m'entretenir avec les personnes pour ensuite les prendre en photo, le résultat ne sera pas le même...
Bien évidemment, on peut porter un jugement moral sur cette façon de prendre les gens au télé-objectif... mais j'ai plus l'impression qu'il s'agit d'une tempête dans un verre d'eau...
Le teleobjectif permet de prendre les gens sans etre vu et donc d'avoir une photo naturelle. Je ne pense pas uniquement en Asie, mais en general. Le rendu des photos devient different lorsque la personne sait qu'elle est prise en photo.
Mais apres je vois ce que tu veux dire car les touristes desfois n'ont aucun tact. J'avais lu un sujet sur VF ou une belge decrivait un couple d'anglais qui voulait prendre sa grand mere en photo, il s'etaient arreter en voiture pour mitrailler sa grand mere sur un banc, et cela lui avait moyennement plu.
Pour les safaris humains ce que j'avais trouve le plus honteux c'etait au Bresil, ou certaines agences proposaient des visites de Favelas en voiture blindee pour photographier la misere humaine............. Je trouve cela d'un deplorable................ Je me demande quel con peut apprecier cela.................
Le plus grand voyageur est celui qui a su faire une fois le tour de lui-même
Je conserve une grande admiration pour Henri Cartier-Bresson, ses photos, reconnaissables entre mille, ne representent jamais des personnes en train de poser, et pourtant il utilisait le 50mm ! C'est que j'essaie de faire, modestement, avec des jetables, ou autres appareils tres simples, ce qui permet de prendre des photos rapidements, les personnes que je photographie s'en apercoivent quand c'est trop tard, puis je converse, je remercie, je pose des questions, je me sauve pas, quoi ! Ou alors, il y a un attroupement, vite une photo... mes photos sont tres vivantes, ce sont des instantanes, une fraction de vie !
C'est tres rare que les gens me fassent la gueule une fois la photo prise, c'est souvent un rire de surprise qui survient - ou pour cacher un embarras qui passera vite. Mais une fois, ca faillit mal tourner, dans le quartier chinois de Bkk, je me balladais dans un lascis de ruelles, quand je suis tomber sur ce que personne ne doit voir, a fortiori un farang, je veux parler d'une table de jeux clandestins. J'ai ete vite reperer par un chinois massif, au crane raser, qui lanca son avertissement a son collegue qui occupait l'autre bout de la ruelle qui faisait un angle. Pour faire tres vite, quand je me suis approcher de la table, avec mon appareil qui tenait dans ma main, le chinois, impressionnant par sa masse, m'a fait comprendre que j'avais interet a vite rejoindre Yaowarat, la grande avenue de Cinatown. Une petite voix interieure me disait de degager ou autrement il allait passer a autre chose. Mais sur Yaowarat, l'angoisse retrospective m'empechait de faire la moindre photo, alors pour ne pas rester sur ce malaise j'ai quasiment fait un reportage : il y a une photo que je montre et qui qualifie pour moi le quartier chinois, c'est une jeune fille qui contracte ses epaules pour passer au milieu des badauds attardes devant un eventaire, et eviter ainsi de les toucher (a Paris, il faut avoir les epaules solides et les gens ne disent pas pas pardon) J'etais sur le trottoir a deux/trois metres d'elle et personne ne m'a remarquer, avec un tele je n'aurais jamais pu faire cette photo, et d'abord j'aurais attirer l'attention.
Pour moi, un tele objectif c'est tres bien pour faire un paysage, photographier un evenement sportif, ou un lion...avec qui on va pas discuter le bout de gras, vu que c'est nous...le gras !
Voyager c'est découvrir que tout le monde a tort.
Aldous Huxley
des fois c'est le contraire.
J'etais au vietnam avec mon copain dans une sorte de kermesse, assis a une petite table en train de manger ou boire une bierre quand tout a coup un couple de vietnamien assoit leur enfant sur une chaise, entre nous deux, click clack et reprenne leur enfant aussi rapidement qu'il l'avaient posé, l'air de rien.
Pas bonjour, pas aurevoir, a peine un regard. Ceci dit cela nous a bien fait rigoler!!!😉
Mais c'est vrai que c'etait pas au teleobjectif!!😎 Comme quoi pas forcé d'etre un toursite pour faire des photos volées😄
Mais c'est vrai que c'etait pas au teleobjectif!!😎 Comme quoi pas forcé d'etre un toursite pour faire des photos volées😄
J'ai regarder ta photo avec beaucoup d'interet - j'ai fait Sumatra-Java en ferry.
Il y a beaucoup de details sur la photo : on voit la mer, des silhouettes accoudees a la rambarde, les sieges vides, et un type en train de lire le journal. Le sujet de cette photo est donc un indonesien lisant le journal sur un ferry, et tu la montres pour illustrer l'interet d'utiliser le tele-objectif. Cette photo aurait tres bien pu se prendre avec un 50, ou un 35. Un tele sert a isoler un detail, un sujet. J'ai zoomer sur la photo pour enlever le decor, et l'on voit mieux a quel point le type est tout dans sa lecture, et son visage prend une autre dimension. En somme, c'est comme si tu avais photographier un paysage en prenant le type au journal en premier plan.
Bref, ce n'est pas un bon exemple pour illustrer l'interet d'utiliser un tele-objectif, mais, puisque tu la montres, ca veut dire que tu en es content...n'est ce point la l'essententiel ?
J'ai beaucoup photographier les Tamouls au bord et dans la mer. J'echangeais juste des sourires, quelquefois on m'adressait la parole en anglais, mais la plupart ne faisaient pas attention a moi parce que j'allais dans l'eau, tout habille, en surveillant les vagues tout de meme pour ne pas noyer mon kodak 35 mm (999 roupies avec deux pellicules). Et, effectivement, cela n'a pas le meme rendu qu'avec un tele : c'est plus vivant !🙂
...j'ai l'impression qu'il s'agit d'une tempete dans un verre d'eau
Je te remercies de noter mes progres, auparavant je ne declenchais des tempetes que dans des des a coudre. Mon cher GilesB tu me donnes de l'ambition, mon prochain recipient sera un benitier !!!
(hier, la boutique internet a fermer tot, j'ai du abreger)
Voyager c'est découvrir que tout le monde a tort.
Aldous Huxley
La photo a été prise sur le Ferry reliant Bali à Java à l'époque où je travaillais à Lombok.
Cette photo a été prise à 80 mm. Je ne l'ai pas mise en ligne pour illustrer l'intérêt du télé-objectif mais pour montrer que cette scène, prise sur le vif, perdrait de son intérêt si je dérange le lecteur pour discuter avec lui pour leur prendre ensuite en photo.
On peut partager des émotions avec le sujet mais pas toujours ! Si je sens qu'échanger peut nuire à la photo que j'ai envie de prendre, je prends ma photo discrètement (de loin au télé ou de près avec discrétion). Autrement, je discute avec le sujet envisagé.
Cette photo a été prise à 80 mm. Je ne l'ai pas mise en ligne pour illustrer l'intérêt du télé-objectif mais pour montrer que cette scène, prise sur le vif, perdrait de son intérêt si je dérange le lecteur pour discuter avec lui pour leur prendre ensuite en photo.
On peut partager des émotions avec le sujet mais pas toujours ! Si je sens qu'échanger peut nuire à la photo que j'ai envie de prendre, je prends ma photo discrètement (de loin au télé ou de près avec discrétion). Autrement, je discute avec le sujet envisagé.
salut
A noter que dans certains pays, on est presque obligés de photographier les gens à leur insu car ils ne veulent pas.. inutile que dans ces cas-là, mieux vaut s'abstenir mais bon... je ne ferai pas ici le donneur de leçons, alors que ça m'est déjà arrivé quelques fois (rarement tout de même).
GilesB ta photo dans le ferry est géniale. J'adore ce carrelage et ces sièges en plastique vides qui évoquent la froideur d'une salle d'attente, et l'expression du visage du lecteur qui va aussi dans le sens de la froideur, de l'indifférence (la "gueule de métro" comme on dit), tandis que tout ça s'entrechoque avec les pieds nus du même type, sa posture nonchalante sur une rambarde en bois et l'océan en toile de fond... SU-PER 😮
GilesB ta photo dans le ferry est géniale. J'adore ce carrelage et ces sièges en plastique vides qui évoquent la froideur d'une salle d'attente, et l'expression du visage du lecteur qui va aussi dans le sens de la froideur, de l'indifférence (la "gueule de métro" comme on dit), tandis que tout ça s'entrechoque avec les pieds nus du même type, sa posture nonchalante sur une rambarde en bois et l'océan en toile de fond... SU-PER 😮
Merci. 😊
En fait, j'ai l'impression que tu es obnubile par cette phrase : il m'arrive souvent de leur parler...j'aurais du ecrire communiquer, et, rassures toi, il ne me sera jamais venu a l'esprit de deranger ce lecteur du journal. Pour moi, une photo ratee, c'est quand la personne se met au garde a vous, la plupart de mes photos d'etres humains ont, en general, ete prises a un moment ou ils ne s'attendent pas, ou alors ils ne se sont pas rendus compte. Quand il y a un evenement, une scene interessante, je m'approche, je me coltine avec l'etre humain : bien obliger, vu les appareils que j'utilise, mais ca me plait et ca me fait voir ou j'en suis - etonnant non ?
Si tu veux bien regarder a la page 5 de "Pensees, reflexions de voyageurs", dans le post "Tolerance", a la date du 7 aout 2007, tu verras 3 de mes photos prises a Mamallahapuram (simple kodak, 35 mm). Je te signale la 3 ieme, ou le chauffeur de la voiture aurait pu se faire lyncher sans l'intervention du flic (photo un peu trop retrecie). J'etais au milieu de ces gens, et je ne leur ai pas dit alors, les gars, on se fait un petit lynchage?
Puisqu'on parle de prendre les gens en photos, ce jour la j'ai compris comment fonctionne un reporter de guerre qui photographie l'horreur, en oubliant le danger, et le payant de sa vie. Autour de cette voiture blanche, qui n'avait pas voulu reculer devant ce qu'il y a sur les deux premieres photos, il y avait une tension extreme, ca vociferait, ca tapait sur la voiture, il y a meme un gars qui tentait d'ouvrir la pOrtiere, et moi, avec mon appareil a la main, porter par la tension et l'exitation ambiante, j'attendais le moment opportun de declancher l'appareil !!! Si le flic n'etait pas intervenu, il auraient sorti le type, l'auraient passer a tabac, massacrer, et je suis persuader que j'aurais continuer a prendre des photos !!! C'est affreux a dire, mais c'est comme ca, dans ces moments la, on ne se pose pas des questions ! C'est pourquoi il ne me viendrait plus a l'esprit de porter un jugement moral sur les photos d'un drame, d'une guerre, je crois fermement que le pro est dans son metier, ne pense qu'a la photo a ne pas rater, et souvent...parfois, plutot, il le paye de sa vie.
Pour terminer, je te suggere de te rendre a La Fnac, rayon photographie, et demande a voir des livres de Cartier Bresson, et tu comprendras ce que j'essaie, vainement, d'expliquer. Cartier Bresson photographiait toujours les etres humains, les scenes ou les paysages avec un 50mm. Le 50, c'est ce que l'oeil voit.
Le seul probleme pour photographier les gens, sans tele-objectif, a notre niveau, c'est d'oser !
Il y a eu des moments ou je n'ai pas oser...et je me suis mordu les doigts !
Voyager c'est découvrir que tout le monde a tort.
Aldous Huxley
Pour terminer, je te suggere de te rendre a La Fnac, rayon photographie, et demande a voir des livres de Cartier Bresson, et tu comprendras ce que j'essaie, vainement, d'expliquer. Cartier Bresson photographiait toujours les etres humains, les scenes ou les paysages avec un 50mm. Le 50, c'est ce que l'oeil voit.
Je ne t'ai pas attendu pour découvrir Cartier Bresson. Faut il que tous les photographes deviennent des Cartier Bresson ? Je ne crois pas... Tu écris souvent "pour moi" et bien je suis comme toi, j'ai une conception et un ressenti de la photo qui m'est propre et je n'ai pas besoin de m'inspirer des "grands" pour retirer du plaisir de faire de la photo.
Tu nous indiques que Cartier Bresson n'utilisait qu'un 50 mm équivalent (presque) de l'oeil humain. Tu pourrais également préciser que les photographes de cette époque, nés bien avant que la couleur ne se répande, usaient essentiellement de tirages noir et blanc. Et pourtant, ce noir et blanc, lui, ne correspond pas du tout à l'oeil humain ! Cela aurait pu être un choix artistique mais ce ne fut pas le cas. Ces choix (noir et blanc et 50 mm) furent imposés à ces photographes par l'absence d'autres solutions adaptées, techniquement ou économiquement, à au moment où ces photographes débutaient. Par la suite, au moment où notoriété et technique leur auraient permits de changer de matériel, ils ne le firent pas car ils auraient renié le style qui les avait faits connaître. Les Cartier Bresson, Ronis, Doisneau de demain auront probablement dans leurs fourre-tout du matériel de notre époque.
Aujourd'hui, j'utilise un boitier Leica numérique et mon obectif est un 14-50 ce qui équivaut à un 28-100 en 35 mm. Si certains ont envie de continuer avec de l'argentique noir et blanc au 50 mm, tant mieux pour ces nostalgiques. Mais ce ne sera pas ce choix qui fera d'eux de bons photographes...
Je ne t'ai pas attendu pour découvrir Cartier Bresson. Faut il que tous les photographes deviennent des Cartier Bresson ? Je ne crois pas... Tu écris souvent "pour moi" et bien je suis comme toi, j'ai une conception et un ressenti de la photo qui m'est propre et je n'ai pas besoin de m'inspirer des "grands" pour retirer du plaisir de faire de la photo.
Tu nous indiques que Cartier Bresson n'utilisait qu'un 50 mm équivalent (presque) de l'oeil humain. Tu pourrais également préciser que les photographes de cette époque, nés bien avant que la couleur ne se répande, usaient essentiellement de tirages noir et blanc. Et pourtant, ce noir et blanc, lui, ne correspond pas du tout à l'oeil humain ! Cela aurait pu être un choix artistique mais ce ne fut pas le cas. Ces choix (noir et blanc et 50 mm) furent imposés à ces photographes par l'absence d'autres solutions adaptées, techniquement ou économiquement, à au moment où ces photographes débutaient. Par la suite, au moment où notoriété et technique leur auraient permits de changer de matériel, ils ne le firent pas car ils auraient renié le style qui les avait faits connaître. Les Cartier Bresson, Ronis, Doisneau de demain auront probablement dans leurs fourre-tout du matériel de notre époque.
Aujourd'hui, j'utilise un boitier Leica numérique et mon obectif est un 14-50 ce qui équivaut à un 28-100 en 35 mm. Si certains ont envie de continuer avec de l'argentique noir et blanc au 50 mm, tant mieux pour ces nostalgiques. Mais ce ne sera pas ce choix qui fera d'eux de bons photographes...
Cartier bresson etait avait tout un grand artiste, et pour lui le dessin passait avant la photographie ; nonobstant toutes ces considerations techniques, une photo de Cartier Bresson se reconnait par la composition de son cadre, d'ailleurs, l'epreuve qu'il faisait passer a ceux qui voulaient entrer chez "Magnum" consistait a retourner la photo qu'on lui montrait pour s'assurer de l'equilibre de la composition. "Pour moi", une photo en noir et blanc est tres difficile a reussir - je me souviens des magnifiques photos de Depardon sur l'Ethiopie, et, quand on regarde les tirages photos de ces grands noms de la photographie, je ne pas vois un style, mais une oeuvre d'art. Je ne peux qu'encourager ceux qui le connaissent pas, de voir et d'admirer les photos de Cartier Bresson, et ils constateront que voir n'est pas donner a tout le monde, en effet, la ou vous passerez sans faire une photo parce que vous ne voyez rien qui vaille le coup, Cartier Bresson, avec son oeil de grand artiste, vous une photo que vous n'imaginiez pas !
C'est de plus en plus rare, mais quand je vois en vente un "jetable" en noir et blanc, je l'achete et je m'essaie a faire quelque chose de potable : comme mon avatar en noir et blanc.
Voyager c'est découvrir que tout le monde a tort.
Aldous Huxley
C'est de plus en plus rare, mais quand je vois en vente un "jetable" en noir et blanc, je l'achete et je m'essaie a faire quelque chose de potable : comme mon avatar en noir et blanc.
C'est là un point important. Pour moi la photo ce sont avant tout des souvenirs... je n'essaie pas de faire de l'art, j'essaie de mettre sur papier (je tire toutes mes photos) ce que j'ai vu.
C'est de plus en plus rare, mais quand je vois en vente un "jetable" en noir et blanc, je l'achete
Aucune conscience écologique ? 😉
C'est là un point important. Pour moi la photo ce sont avant tout des souvenirs... je n'essaie pas de faire de l'art, j'essaie de mettre sur papier (je tire toutes mes photos) ce que j'ai vu.
C'est de plus en plus rare, mais quand je vois en vente un "jetable" en noir et blanc, je l'achete
Aucune conscience écologique ? 😉
Tiré d'un guide:
Il est important d’adopter une attitude respectueuse, et de demander la permission pour prendre des photos. En cas contraire, les réactions peuvent être très vives (À Todos Santos, il y a quelques années, un touriste japonais et son guide ont été lynchés par la foule à cause d’une photo d’enfant prise sans permission)
Todos Santos, c'est au Guatemala, et photografier des enfants dans ce pays peut être risqué. Vu qu'il existe un énorme trafic d'enfants (adoptions illégales ou prélèvement d'organes), les habitants se méfient des touristes avec leurs appareils-photo, surtout dans les villages. Donc prudence: toujours demander avant de prendre une photo!
Il est important d’adopter une attitude respectueuse, et de demander la permission pour prendre des photos. En cas contraire, les réactions peuvent être très vives (À Todos Santos, il y a quelques années, un touriste japonais et son guide ont été lynchés par la foule à cause d’une photo d’enfant prise sans permission)
Todos Santos, c'est au Guatemala, et photografier des enfants dans ce pays peut être risqué. Vu qu'il existe un énorme trafic d'enfants (adoptions illégales ou prélèvement d'organes), les habitants se méfient des touristes avec leurs appareils-photo, surtout dans les villages. Donc prudence: toujours demander avant de prendre une photo!
Dans mon pays par exemple, si toi touriste tu veux être la proie aux agens de l'ordre essaie seulement de photographier au vu de tous.J'ai eu du mal à permettre à une amie touriste de prendre des photos, vraiment il fallait choisir des coins très reculés, ou carrément embusqué, en cachette intelligemment plaqué contre la parebrise de la voiture, éviter d'activer le flash.Mille pays mille réalités
"le tigre n'a pas besoin de crier sa tigritude , il saute!"
Wole Soyinka.
Je suis plus sur
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je suis pendant mon travail en contact avec des gens qui voyagent, et j'avoue que les premières fois ou l'on m'a prise en photo, j'étais 1 peu surprise
et gènée, c'est pourquoi en effet je me balade rarement avec 1 appareil photo .
mais je peux comprendre les gens qui visitent pour la première fois 1 pays et qui sont émerveillés par tout 1 chatoiement de couleurs !
comment ne pas avoir envie de photographier dans certains pays d'Afrique, ces femmes si belles avec leur boubous, ces enfants si rieurs, ces touaregs si fiers avec leur tagelmoust qui ne laissent paraître que leurs yeux et tant d'autres splendeurs !
pour moi pas de problème, j'ai la chance de pouvoir passer beaucoup de temps avec ces gens et bien sur c'est plus facile, je viens de ramener 1 stok de photos faites pendant la tabaski au Mali, ou tous sont habillés de belles tenues neuves et colorées et ou tous veulent poser, bien sur au voyage suivant, il faut que je ramène des tirages pour tous, mais ce n'est que du bonheur !
bon voyage
francia
le mérite d'un homme réside dans sa connaissance et dans ses actes et non point dans la couleur de sa peau ou de sa religion!
Khalil Gibran
Allez, un dernier mot sur l'art et la maniere de prendre les gens en photo. L'anecdote qui suit est vraie, et illustre bien tout ce qu'il ne faut pas faire - mais vous faites ce que voulez, oh forumeuses et forumeurs !
L'americaine et la vieille dame lao.
Apres avoir sejourner a Don Khon/Don Det, j'attendais que le bus veuille bien partir de Ban Nakasang, en direction de Pakse, tout en mangeant une soupe. Le restaurant ouvert sur le marche me permettait aussi de regarder les gens qui achetaient pour leur journee. Un marche tres basique, les legumes etales sur le sol, ou sur des tretaux fait de bric et de broc.
C'est alors que je vis cette vieille lao, sur ma gauche, qui avancait tranquillement, les mains derriere le dos, affublee d'une enorme paire de lunettes, avec des verres comme des hublots ! Sur ma droite, deux touristes blanches entraient dans mon champ de vision. L'une d'entre elle, qui portait un sac de reporter en bandouliere, remarqua la dame lao. Elle donna son sac a sa supposee camarade, et se precipita vers la vieille. Elle lui demanda l'autorisation de la prendre en photo ; elle parlait fort, et, avec un tel accent, que je ne doutais pas qu'elle fut etatsunienne.
La vieille resta plantee, toujours les mains derriere le dos, tandis que l'americaine rejoignit sa compatriote, prit son sac, le deposa par terre, l'ouvrit, et en sortit un appareil, un objectif, entreprit de le mettre sur le boitier, mais, en etelant au regard de tout le monde ces objets de prix certainement prohibitif, elle ne se rendait pas compte qu'elle devenait aussi un objet, un objet de curiosite pour les laotiens qui commencaient a s'attarder en demi cercle autour des deux blanches. Et moi aussi je commencais a subodorer quelque chose de rejouissant, du coup je cessais de manger ma soupe pour me repaitre du spectacle.
L'americaine prit un appareil, s'approcha de la vieille et le mit sous son menton. Ah ca alors ! me suis je dit, ca existe toujours les cellules photo-electrique ! L'americaine s'en retourna, a donc 4/5 metres de la vieille, s'empara de son attirail - ouah...l'equipement d'un pro, si, si! Je comprenais pas trop pourquoi elle photographiait d'aussi loin. En tous les cas, maintenant il y avait bien une vingtaine de personnes qui l'obervaient.
Une fois la photo faite, l'americaine laissa son appareil a sa supposee camarade, se precipita sur la vieille, lui prit une main, deposa un baiser sur le dos de la main, puis tout en la gardant dans la sienne, elle s'exclama :
- Thank you ! Thank you ! avec un enthousiasme emouvant -si, si...
Elle lacha la main de la vieille, mais la main resta en suspension, se retourna et presenta la paume ! Je vis l'americaine blemir, et je l'entendis, comme dans un cri qu'on cherche a etouffer " Oh my god !" Elle revint lentement a son point de depart, et dit a celle qui l'accompagnait : " she want monnay!"
Ce jour la, une vieille dame lao gagna quelques kips, avec un sourire de vieux matou qui vient de croquer une souris bien naive.
Et depuis ce jour, dans le Wisconsin, la Californie, ou Boston, enfin je ne sais ou, quelque part aux etats unis en tous les cas, les vieilles dames laos ont mauvaise reputation
Voyager c'est découvrir que tout le monde a tort.
Aldous Huxley
Tout ça pour ça ! 😉
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Hi everyone,
Who’d like to share their best and worst travel memories in a few lines? For me, it’s watching the TAJ MAHAL at sunrise and getting chased by dogs at the top of a mountain pass in GREECE on the way back from ISTANBUL. THANKS GUYS
Who’d like to share their best and worst travel memories in a few lines? For me, it’s watching the TAJ MAHAL at sunrise and getting chased by dogs at the top of a mountain pass in GREECE on the way back from ISTANBUL. THANKS GUYS
Good evening everyone,
This is my 15,000th post, and it's a message I would have preferred never to write.
Patrick—Yangguizi—won’t be returning from his trek in Uganda. His health betrayed him in the mountains.
Like many of you, I laughed until I couldn’t anymore at his travel stories. I met him in Shanghai, then in Istanbul... We scoured restaurants—he was an incredible expert on world cuisines. We relived Korea, China. Always brilliant, so sharp, so funny, so down-to-earth. Being even a little bit his friend was something to be proud of. I think I envied him.
Patrick is still out there, of course... He found his happiness running across the world. He’s on his path. He never doubted that "the traveler doesn’t even know if he’ll return one day."
Not sure this would’ve suited him, but his departure devastates me.
Alright, Farewell, you foreign devil. Safe travels.
Michel
This is my 15,000th post, and it's a message I would have preferred never to write.
Patrick—Yangguizi—won’t be returning from his trek in Uganda. His health betrayed him in the mountains.
Like many of you, I laughed until I couldn’t anymore at his travel stories. I met him in Shanghai, then in Istanbul... We scoured restaurants—he was an incredible expert on world cuisines. We relived Korea, China. Always brilliant, so sharp, so funny, so down-to-earth. Being even a little bit his friend was something to be proud of. I think I envied him.
Patrick is still out there, of course... He found his happiness running across the world. He’s on his path. He never doubted that "the traveler doesn’t even know if he’ll return one day."
Not sure this would’ve suited him, but his departure devastates me.
Alright, Farewell, you foreign devil. Safe travels.
Michel
hello to all travelers with their eyes wide open to the desert...
I’ve always wondered what I was "doing" on this earth. And why my father, who died a few months after I was born—a former youngest French resistance fighter—joined the First Saharan Motorized Company in Atar and spent the rest of his life repairing army engines in Algeria, Mauritania, Senegal, Mali (which didn’t exist under that name back then), Morocco, and finally Algeria, where my mother was born and raised. (Believe me, it’s not "cool" being the child of a soldier in a country occupied by France, and even less so the child of a "pied-noir.") Of course, I never got an answer: the dead don’t talk, and the army doesn’t either. But here’s the thing—I had photos... So naturally, one day I hit the road. I wanted to see, to understand. It’s thanks to VF that I was able to do a little research on crossing the Morocco-Mauritania border, and I’m grateful to its members, just as I’m grateful to all those who welcomed me on the road for 14 years. For the past few weeks, I’ve been wondering if I should talk about this or not... It turns out the Mauritanians changed my life by asking for my help... And that started as early as February 2012... (Did I owe them something? No answer to that question.) Ah, the irony—they saw me coming. But when you’re handed sick children and begged to do something, what would you have done? I’d worked in a hospital, so I knew a bit about the rules to follow. I didn’t hesitate. And well, over all these years, I met doctors, surgeons, and together we organized care, evacuations of children, training for surgeons—even trying to stop children from having to travel outside their country. It was never easy. I’d like to thank those who supported us, as well as *La Chaîne de l’Espoir*, *La Fondation Face au Monde*, and everyone who built bridges between our two countries. Unfortunately, despite the constant efforts of Mauritanian doctors and surgeons, some children couldn’t be helped in time. Today, I want to talk about four siblings—orphans of their mother—suffering from congenital glaucoma causing irreversible blindness. Their case was entrusted to me in 2020, just weeks before the big lockdown. We couldn’t do anything for them then, but when their father asked me for a gift, I rushed to my computer and wrote a story. Through a tale, the children take a great journey, explore their country, and fulfill a dream. I never thought this book would be published—it was, in 2023. This book pays tribute to Mauritania. It’s a message for those who know nothing about the hardships of life there, carrying both the harshness and beauty of an immense desert where you can travel by 4x4, bike, on foot, or by camel in complete safety. It bears witness to the kindness of Mauritanians toward travelers. As a woman traveling alone in my vehicle—a now-rusted old Mercedes that no longer runs—I had the most beautiful encounters of my life there (I’ve seen other parts of the world...). The blind children of Choum, Atar, Nouadhibou, and Nouakchott will forever be in my heart. Volunteer readers transcribed the book into a free audio version for the visually impaired. It’s available in sound libraries in France, the *Fondation Valentin Haüy*, and the Swiss Romande library. I made my last trip to Mauritania in my old 4x4 to distribute the book everywhere, especially to its heroes and the school for the visually impaired in Nouakchott. After that, I thought it was time to close the chapter because I no longer have the means or the strength to travel. My publishers chose this title for it: *The Blue Eyes of the Desert*. This publication helped a mission of Swiss volunteer ophthalmologists come to operate on glaucomas in Mauritania. I’m thrilled because they come back every year! This adventure is ending, yes—everything must come to an end—but ultimately, it was born here, on the VF site!! So yes, I had to say it: THANK YOU!!!!!
I’ve always wondered what I was "doing" on this earth. And why my father, who died a few months after I was born—a former youngest French resistance fighter—joined the First Saharan Motorized Company in Atar and spent the rest of his life repairing army engines in Algeria, Mauritania, Senegal, Mali (which didn’t exist under that name back then), Morocco, and finally Algeria, where my mother was born and raised. (Believe me, it’s not "cool" being the child of a soldier in a country occupied by France, and even less so the child of a "pied-noir.") Of course, I never got an answer: the dead don’t talk, and the army doesn’t either. But here’s the thing—I had photos... So naturally, one day I hit the road. I wanted to see, to understand. It’s thanks to VF that I was able to do a little research on crossing the Morocco-Mauritania border, and I’m grateful to its members, just as I’m grateful to all those who welcomed me on the road for 14 years. For the past few weeks, I’ve been wondering if I should talk about this or not... It turns out the Mauritanians changed my life by asking for my help... And that started as early as February 2012... (Did I owe them something? No answer to that question.) Ah, the irony—they saw me coming. But when you’re handed sick children and begged to do something, what would you have done? I’d worked in a hospital, so I knew a bit about the rules to follow. I didn’t hesitate. And well, over all these years, I met doctors, surgeons, and together we organized care, evacuations of children, training for surgeons—even trying to stop children from having to travel outside their country. It was never easy. I’d like to thank those who supported us, as well as *La Chaîne de l’Espoir*, *La Fondation Face au Monde*, and everyone who built bridges between our two countries. Unfortunately, despite the constant efforts of Mauritanian doctors and surgeons, some children couldn’t be helped in time. Today, I want to talk about four siblings—orphans of their mother—suffering from congenital glaucoma causing irreversible blindness. Their case was entrusted to me in 2020, just weeks before the big lockdown. We couldn’t do anything for them then, but when their father asked me for a gift, I rushed to my computer and wrote a story. Through a tale, the children take a great journey, explore their country, and fulfill a dream. I never thought this book would be published—it was, in 2023. This book pays tribute to Mauritania. It’s a message for those who know nothing about the hardships of life there, carrying both the harshness and beauty of an immense desert where you can travel by 4x4, bike, on foot, or by camel in complete safety. It bears witness to the kindness of Mauritanians toward travelers. As a woman traveling alone in my vehicle—a now-rusted old Mercedes that no longer runs—I had the most beautiful encounters of my life there (I’ve seen other parts of the world...). The blind children of Choum, Atar, Nouadhibou, and Nouakchott will forever be in my heart. Volunteer readers transcribed the book into a free audio version for the visually impaired. It’s available in sound libraries in France, the *Fondation Valentin Haüy*, and the Swiss Romande library. I made my last trip to Mauritania in my old 4x4 to distribute the book everywhere, especially to its heroes and the school for the visually impaired in Nouakchott. After that, I thought it was time to close the chapter because I no longer have the means or the strength to travel. My publishers chose this title for it: *The Blue Eyes of the Desert*. This publication helped a mission of Swiss volunteer ophthalmologists come to operate on glaucomas in Mauritania. I’m thrilled because they come back every year! This adventure is ending, yes—everything must come to an end—but ultimately, it was born here, on the VF site!! So yes, I had to say it: THANK YOU!!!!!
Hi everyone,
I’m Loulou, a French expat who’s been living in Southeast Asia for about fifteen years, currently in Phnom Penh, Cambodia. A passionate walker at heart, I’ve trekked in Nepal (Thorung La, Mardi Himal), India, Vietnam, and I’m still planning new hikes (Char Dham, Langtang, Annapurna).
I’ve just published my first travel journal, recounting three months of walking and encounters across India. A portion of the sales goes to an educational center I support in Kep, for children whose parents work in the salt marshes.
I’m also working on a second book about Nepal with a musician friend, focusing on the Mardi Himal trek—two independent perspectives on the same journey.
Happy to swap stories with you about the Himalayas, India, Southeast Asia, or just the urge to hit the road and walk far from home.
Safe travels,
Loulou
Hi! It was totally by chance that I stumbled upon VoyageForum (an ad online and a story lol), and I’ve been reading some really old posts from 2011 about Thai massage schools—discussions on how to get by, accommodation, prices, etc. It reminded me of my own experience: I kept things simple by staying with a local family during my entire trip. I only shared all the expenses with them, which, I’ll admit, was super cheap… and I often traveled with them, which naturally opened a lot of doors for me. To start, at the school in Salaya, my Thai friend immediately connected me with Teacher Phong (the school’s mentor and teacher of teachers, a former monk). I was supposed to join a group session with other foreigners, but for some reason I don’t know, I got two days of private lessons for free with this expert… incredible! And on top of that, he loved France! It was an amazing experience. I "discovered" massage by chance—the Thai family just told me: "Try it, you’ll see!" (I’d had a pretty intense massage in the capital before 😅… but the next day, I felt unbelievably great!))
Every morning, I’d take a taxi (chosen by the Thai family at prices that beat all the competition) to this school—I’ve forgotten the name of the little village now… right in the heart of the countryside. Then, in the evenings, I’d keep practicing massage on all the family members… and they’d teach me Thai at the same time!))
Since then, I’ve practiced a bit, with lots of positive feedback. Following Teacher Phong’s advice—he thought my pressure was deep, firm, and precise—he strongly encouraged me to take this seriously.
I love Thailand so much. It’s a whole different way of living… and it’s a real blessing, even if I couldn’t live there full-time. Anyway, that was an unforgettable memory, and sometimes the Thai family and I still say hi—from 2011, 2013… right up to today!
Take care, everyone! !
Every morning, I’d take a taxi (chosen by the Thai family at prices that beat all the competition) to this school—I’ve forgotten the name of the little village now… right in the heart of the countryside. Then, in the evenings, I’d keep practicing massage on all the family members… and they’d teach me Thai at the same time!))
Since then, I’ve practiced a bit, with lots of positive feedback. Following Teacher Phong’s advice—he thought my pressure was deep, firm, and precise—he strongly encouraged me to take this seriously.
I love Thailand so much. It’s a whole different way of living… and it’s a real blessing, even if I couldn’t live there full-time. Anyway, that was an unforgettable memory, and sometimes the Thai family and I still say hi—from 2011, 2013… right up to today!
Take care, everyone! !
"It seems to me that poverty would be less painful in the sun" wrote Aznavour...
Not sure...😕 Who can prove that people in hot countries are happier than others? What do you think?
Is it better to live in Montpellier than in Lille? Are the Pygmies happier than the Inuit? Are Canadians less happy than the people of Louisiana? Are there more French expats in hot countries?
And your travels? Do you choose your destinations based on the climate? Do you rejoice when a bit of sunshine appears?
Not sure...😕 Who can prove that people in hot countries are happier than others? What do you think?
Is it better to live in Montpellier than in Lille? Are the Pygmies happier than the Inuit? Are Canadians less happy than the people of Louisiana? Are there more French expats in hot countries?
And your travels? Do you choose your destinations based on the climate? Do you rejoice when a bit of sunshine appears?
Hi everyone, just this once I’m not posting for a travel story, but to share a thought for Venezuela.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed. Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed. Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
hi there
I’d like to invite you to discover my coastal province in central Vietnam: Quang Ngai.
This year, my province has really improved its infrastructure—mountains, countryside, and sea are all authentic here.
No harassers or thieves, and no Russians either.
A local lunch costs around 1 €.
A *** hotel room is about 25 €, and you can find hotels right on My Khe Beach.
We have a specialty: *banh xeo*—10 crepes for just 1.5 €.
You can rent motorbikes to explore the province and maybe visit the many ethnic minorities.
I live here—I’m not selling anything, but I can help if needed (my father-in-law is a traditional Vietnamese doctor and he’s very skilled).
We're planning to spend a month in Vietnam. Is hiring a guide helpful?
Hi everyone! 😉
I’m Typhaine, 35 years old. Five years ago, I left France for a solo round-the-world trip—no planes, just a van, hitchhiking, cycling, and even a canoe in the Amazon! Today, I work as a naturalist guide in Argentine Patagonia.
Wherever I go, my compass stays the same: observing and photographing wildlife, which I deeply admire and respect.
My project: I’d love to share this experience through a sustainable, authentic, and immersive nature tourism initiative. But to build something meaningful, I need to understand how other nature enthusiasts experience their own adventures.
If you:
Are over 20 years old
Have a true passion for Nature
Have already taken at least one trip lasting more than 3 nights (in your country or abroad) in your life
Then... would you have 5 to 7 minutes to help me by filling out this questionnaire? 🙂 »» https://forms.gle/y74ckkvN9TjrougLA
Promise: I’m not selling anything, this isn’t marketing. Your answers are 100% anonymous and will only help me shape this wild project. A huge thank you to everyone for your help and kindness! Looking forward to chatting in this thread 😛
(Dear admins, this is purely a collaborative effort for my project study, with no commercial purpose. Thank you so much for your support!)
Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
My project: I’d love to share this experience through a sustainable, authentic, and immersive nature tourism initiative. But to build something meaningful, I need to understand how other nature enthusiasts experience their own adventures.
If you:
Are over 20 years old
Have a true passion for Nature
Have already taken at least one trip lasting more than 3 nights (in your country or abroad) in your life
Then... would you have 5 to 7 minutes to help me by filling out this questionnaire? 🙂 »» https://forms.gle/y74ckkvN9TjrougLA
Promise: I’m not selling anything, this isn’t marketing. Your answers are 100% anonymous and will only help me shape this wild project. A huge thank you to everyone for your help and kindness! Looking forward to chatting in this thread 😛
(Dear admins, this is purely a collaborative effort for my project study, with no commercial purpose. Thank you so much for your support!)
Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
Hello everyone,
It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

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It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

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I spent 3 weeks in Bali last summer (+ 3 nights on Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java). So I wanted to see what ChatGPT could suggest for comparison...
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Hello everyone,
I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
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Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

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I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
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.Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

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I’ve kept the habit of blowing my nose in the sink and then washing my hands—a custom I picked up in India. Sometimes, non-travelers are shocked when they catch me in the act... 🤪
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
After taking a little trip around the world, I came back a few months ago with an idea in mind.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
As part of my Master’s thesis, I’m currently conducting a public survey on a topic that concerns all of us when planning a trip: artificial intelligence and the role of human contact in travel planning.
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
While browsing the forum to gather info for my upcoming trip to Thailand, I often see the terms "traveler," "great traveler," and also "tourist"—so what’s the nuance for you?
I've traveled quite a bit in Vietnam over the past few years—from the southern delta to bustling cities and even some small islands—but what really sticks with me is the north, the high mountains.
Up there, there's something different—maybe slower, more raw. The morning markets with ethnic groups, women in traditional clothes, the colors...
The stilt houses, kids following you and laughing for no reason, the terraced rice fields—it almost feels unreal at times, so vast and quiet, yet so human and simple.
You often hear that Sapa has become too touristy, and that's partly true, especially in the center. But as soon as you move a little farther away, everything changes quickly. The landscapes open up, encounters feel more natural, and you rediscover something truly authentic.
I think it's that contrast that struck me—the difference between what you imagine before going and what you actually discover when you take the time.
And you—what memory do you hold onto from Vietnam? A particular place that touched you more than others?
Hello,
We’re finalizing the plans for our upcoming trip to China in May 2025. The second-to-last stop will be in Zhangjiajie, where we’ve planned to stay for 2 full days before heading to Shanghai.
We’re traveling solo using local transport and have arranged to stay in the city of Zhangjiajie.
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
Hello 🙂
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
Hi everyone, here’s our itinerary. Arriving on the evening of December 13th. Departing on January 7th.
Thanks in advance for your tips and valuable feedback.
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Really disappointed with Costa Rica! Pura vida? The scam of the century!
(Costa Rica pure emptiness).
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
Hello,
Since the war between Russia and Ukraine, nothing is simple anymore for traveling to Belarus due to sanctions.
No more direct flights from the EU to Minsk.
Driving is a huge hassle, especially crossing through Poland at the only open border in Brest—you can wait 2, 3, or even 4 days just to get through by car.
The least painful driving option is to come via Lithuania and cross at the only open border, with a minimum wait time of 8 hours, sometimes up to 20 hours or more!!
Controls are very strict and annoying on both the Lithuanian and Belarusian sides. Avoid bringing alcohol, food, or cigarettes—everything will end up in the trash, especially when leaving Belarus for Vilnius, where the Lithuanians are tough, even with EU citizens.
The joy I once knew when visiting my wife in Minsk is sadly over—it’s now a real ordeal.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
Hi everyone!
I’m putting together our travel itinerary for Veneto at the end of April. And the more I look and research potential sites to visit, the more I find!
We’ll only be there for a week—my family and I—including 3 days in Venice. So we have to make some choices...
I plan to rent a car when we arrive in Venice and head straight to Bergamo, which would be our first stop. We’d leave the car at the airport when we return to Venice so we can explore the city at our leisure.
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
Now that the curtain has fallen on the past year, it’s time to see what’s happening around here.
It seems pretty quiet, but I’ll read more in detail later.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
I’ve visited the U.S. four times myself, including two long road trips. The last one was just this past August...
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
Hi there,
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
Hello everyone,
Controversial topic? Not necessarily—maybe just a reflection on a world to come.
I spent the last 15 days of August on a cruise in Greenland, from Kangerlussuaq to Tasiilaq.
I was utterly amazed by this unique world of rock and ice, the little houses in every color, a simple life that’s also complicated by isolation and climate, among other things...
I carry in my heart the kindness of the people I met, the raw and gentle majesty of the icebergs, the colors of the sky...
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,

Hello to all East Africa lovers and nature enthusiasts in general,
While I prepare to share a recap of our latest trip/safari in Kenya soon, I’d like to wish you all a peaceful transition between 2025 and 2026.
Warm regards,
Puma2A.





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We’re a couple aged 58 and 63. We’ve just returned from a wonderful trip to South India in Tamil Nadu and a few days in Kerala. We traveled with a local French-speaking guide and his friend, the driver. They both live in Pondicherry. We spent 3 weeks with them in the most authentic way!
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like! M-Claire and Jean
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like! M-Claire and Jean


