PS : un hochement de la tête pour dire bonjour, des mains jointes devant le visage pour remercier ; tout ceci est bien simple et ouvre bien des portes, même à celles et ceux qui ne parlent pas la langue du Pays qui les accueille. PENSEZ-Y.
Savoir vivre
by Vietalier
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Entendu de multiples fois lors de mes voyages au Viet Nam :
" Respectez l'autre... Et vous vous repecterez vous-même !
Je dédie ceci à bien des voyageurs français que j'ai vu - HÉLAS !!! - se comporter commes de véritables rustauds, et le qualificatif reste faible, tant le spectacle fut " ad nauseam " ; quant à la trace laissée... je ne vous explique même pas !
Cordialissimes amitiés voyageuses de Vietalier.
PS : un hochement de la tête pour dire bonjour, des mains jointes devant le visage pour remercier ; tout ceci est bien simple et ouvre bien des portes, même à celles et ceux qui ne parlent pas la langue du Pays qui les accueille. PENSEZ-Y.
PS : un hochement de la tête pour dire bonjour, des mains jointes devant le visage pour remercier ; tout ceci est bien simple et ouvre bien des portes, même à celles et ceux qui ne parlent pas la langue du Pays qui les accueille. PENSEZ-Y.
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Je crois que ce n'est pas propre aux Français mais aux touristes en général et, SURTOUT, aux touristes en groupe.
J'habite Paris, ville touristique s'il en est, et je peux constater tous les jours que les touristes seuls ou en couple sont discrets (on va dire, jusqu'à trois individus) et qu'ils sont de plus en plus bruyants et sans gène au fur et à mesure que la taille du groupe augmente. Ce, qu'ils soient Français, Allemands, Chinois... ou autres...
J'habite Paris, ville touristique s'il en est, et je peux constater tous les jours que les touristes seuls ou en couple sont discrets (on va dire, jusqu'à trois individus) et qu'ils sont de plus en plus bruyants et sans gène au fur et à mesure que la taille du groupe augmente. Ce, qu'ils soient Français, Allemands, Chinois... ou autres...
Tout à fait d'accord avec vous quant au phénomène de masse ; c'est pour cela que lorsque les désordres sont le fait d'un individu isolé, voire d'une paire de sauvages, le déplaisir que j'éprouve est d'autant plus aigu.
Amitiés de Vietalier
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Bonjour,
Au constat, pas de règle en la matière : le manque de respect tout court touche tous les aspects de la vie humaine, animale, végétale, environnementale. Pourquoi ? pas une seule réponse car il s'agit de nos comportements qui ont dégénéré au fil du temps avec de nouveaux concepts de vie au nom de la "liberté" ne laissant l'apparence que des avantages individuels !
Du coup, plus de limite ne parle-t-on pas aujourd'hui des Droits en occultant les Devoirs ? Droits des enfants qui conduisent à interdire la fessée ! voire la simple punition quand nos petits diables la méritent largement. Ce laxisme d'éducation parentale nous a menés là où nous sommes : nombre de parents "ne viennent plus à bout" de leurs enfants qui s'octroient tous les droits, sans limite et tournent à la délinquance si facilement. Et je ne parle pas de l'éducatif à l'école avec les profs qui ne peuvent plus seulement faire une observation orale pour tenter de redresser la barre quand il en est encore temps !
Alors comment faire ? Pour ma part, il faut oser dire les choses quand on est témoin d'une dérive, que ce soit en groupe ou non, jeunes ou adultes. Au Sénégal en 1991, nous séjournions mon mari et moi dans un village. Le soir, un père de famille nous dit "vous n'avez pas fait votre devoir d'adultes" Ne comprenant pas de quoi il parlait, nous lui demandons ce qu'il voulait dire. Tout simple, dans l'après-midi, nous avions vu un de ses enfants faire une connerie mais n'étions pas intervenu. Sauf que là-bas, chaque adulte se doit de veiller sur un enfant livré à lui-même, que ce soit pour consoler, soigner ou réprimander ! Nous avons expliqué à ce père de famille pourquoi nous n'étions pas intervenus compte tenu de nos "normes" européennes. Depuis, en France comme à l'étranger, devant une telle situation, face à des enfants, des ados ou des adultes, autochtones ou étrangers, nous intervenons quitte à passer pour ce que la majorité peut nous taxer d'empêcheurs de tourner en rond !
C'est parfois un peu épuisant, après une journée de crapahutages dans nos activités de solidarité, mais ça en vaut la peine, enfin à notre avis !🏴☠️
Bonne journée, Geli 😉
Au constat, pas de règle en la matière : le manque de respect tout court touche tous les aspects de la vie humaine, animale, végétale, environnementale. Pourquoi ? pas une seule réponse car il s'agit de nos comportements qui ont dégénéré au fil du temps avec de nouveaux concepts de vie au nom de la "liberté" ne laissant l'apparence que des avantages individuels !
Du coup, plus de limite ne parle-t-on pas aujourd'hui des Droits en occultant les Devoirs ? Droits des enfants qui conduisent à interdire la fessée ! voire la simple punition quand nos petits diables la méritent largement. Ce laxisme d'éducation parentale nous a menés là où nous sommes : nombre de parents "ne viennent plus à bout" de leurs enfants qui s'octroient tous les droits, sans limite et tournent à la délinquance si facilement. Et je ne parle pas de l'éducatif à l'école avec les profs qui ne peuvent plus seulement faire une observation orale pour tenter de redresser la barre quand il en est encore temps !
Alors comment faire ? Pour ma part, il faut oser dire les choses quand on est témoin d'une dérive, que ce soit en groupe ou non, jeunes ou adultes. Au Sénégal en 1991, nous séjournions mon mari et moi dans un village. Le soir, un père de famille nous dit "vous n'avez pas fait votre devoir d'adultes" Ne comprenant pas de quoi il parlait, nous lui demandons ce qu'il voulait dire. Tout simple, dans l'après-midi, nous avions vu un de ses enfants faire une connerie mais n'étions pas intervenu. Sauf que là-bas, chaque adulte se doit de veiller sur un enfant livré à lui-même, que ce soit pour consoler, soigner ou réprimander ! Nous avons expliqué à ce père de famille pourquoi nous n'étions pas intervenus compte tenu de nos "normes" européennes. Depuis, en France comme à l'étranger, devant une telle situation, face à des enfants, des ados ou des adultes, autochtones ou étrangers, nous intervenons quitte à passer pour ce que la majorité peut nous taxer d'empêcheurs de tourner en rond !
C'est parfois un peu épuisant, après une journée de crapahutages dans nos activités de solidarité, mais ça en vaut la peine, enfin à notre avis !🏴☠️
Bonne journée, Geli 😉
bonjour,
c est sur notre education est différente, mais ne blamons les ignorances , il suffit d apprendre, Mêmes les autres parties du monde ont des traditions ou des moeurs qui sont différents des nôtres et qui nous donnent le sens de la critique parce qu ils ne sont pas comme nous, exemple cracher et se moucher ou peter c est normal, notre éducation europeenne nous a inculqué que ce n est pas poli, mais respectons la difference de chaque être, et sachons aimer le monde tel qui est. anne
c est sur notre education est différente, mais ne blamons les ignorances , il suffit d apprendre, Mêmes les autres parties du monde ont des traditions ou des moeurs qui sont différents des nôtres et qui nous donnent le sens de la critique parce qu ils ne sont pas comme nous, exemple cracher et se moucher ou peter c est normal, notre éducation europeenne nous a inculqué que ce n est pas poli, mais respectons la difference de chaque être, et sachons aimer le monde tel qui est. anne
Du coup, plus de limite ne parle-t-on pas aujourd'hui des Droits en occultant les Devoirs ?
Droits des enfants qui conduisent à interdire la fessée ! voire la simple punition quand nos petits diables la méritent largement. Ce laxisme d'éducation parentale nous a menés là où nous sommes : nombre de parents "ne viennent plus à bout" de leurs enfants qui s'octroient tous les droits, sans limite et tournent à la délinquance si facilement. Et je ne parle pas de l'éducatif à l'école avec les profs qui ne peuvent plus seulement faire une observation orale pour tenter de redresser la barre quand il en est encore temps !
Bonjour,
- Un prof qui a donné une gifle à un élève se retrouve avec un procès aux fesses et fait la une du journal de 20h... - Des gangsters sont abattus par la police, leurs amis se déchaînent pour terroriser et mettre à sac plusieurs villes... - Un prêtre souhaite la mort soudaine d'un Président de la République etc... On assiste un peu partout à une inversion des rôles.
En voyage on constate à peu près le même phénomène. Le voyageur au comportement humble s'efface bien souvent... Il suffit d'une seule arnaque à faux taxi pour que toute une destination soit vouée aux gémonies. Ils sont maintenant légions ces témoignages de retour de voyage qui se complaisent à déchiqueter un pays quand ce n'est pas toute sa population pour une absence de bonjour ou un seul regard de travers. Avec les facilités de déplacement les exigences ont augmenté mais celle de devoir faire le tour du monde avec"1euro" n'a pas bougé d'un iota.
Bonjour,
- Un prof qui a donné une gifle à un élève se retrouve avec un procès aux fesses et fait la une du journal de 20h... - Des gangsters sont abattus par la police, leurs amis se déchaînent pour terroriser et mettre à sac plusieurs villes... - Un prêtre souhaite la mort soudaine d'un Président de la République etc... On assiste un peu partout à une inversion des rôles.
En voyage on constate à peu près le même phénomène. Le voyageur au comportement humble s'efface bien souvent... Il suffit d'une seule arnaque à faux taxi pour que toute une destination soit vouée aux gémonies. Ils sont maintenant légions ces témoignages de retour de voyage qui se complaisent à déchiqueter un pays quand ce n'est pas toute sa population pour une absence de bonjour ou un seul regard de travers. Avec les facilités de déplacement les exigences ont augmenté mais celle de devoir faire le tour du monde avec"1euro" n'a pas bougé d'un iota.
Personnellement, je ne pense pas que le monde soit pire aujourd'hui que par le passé...
Je ne suis pas du genre à dire "c'était mieux avant".
C'est différent. Il y a plein de choses meilleures, et certaines choses qui se sont dégradées... Trop de monde focalise à mon avis sur ce qui s'est dégradé.
Concernant le manque de respect général des gens à l'étranger, je ne suis pas certain que, pendant les périodes colonialistes, les Français, Belges ou Anglais se conduisaient spécialement bien dans les pays colonisés...
Les Français parlant aujourd'hui davantage anglais qu'il y a 50 ans, je pense du coup qu'ils font un peu plus d'effort et que l'attitude moyenne des gens a probablement évolué dans le bon sens.
Ce qui a surtout changé, c'est qu'il y a beaucoup plus de gens qui voyagent et, qu'en valeur absolu (mais pas forcément proportionnellement), il est "logique" (ou mathématique) qu'il y ait plus de gens malpolis.
Je ne suis pas du genre à dire "c'était mieux avant".
C'est différent. Il y a plein de choses meilleures, et certaines choses qui se sont dégradées... Trop de monde focalise à mon avis sur ce qui s'est dégradé.
Concernant le manque de respect général des gens à l'étranger, je ne suis pas certain que, pendant les périodes colonialistes, les Français, Belges ou Anglais se conduisaient spécialement bien dans les pays colonisés...
Les Français parlant aujourd'hui davantage anglais qu'il y a 50 ans, je pense du coup qu'ils font un peu plus d'effort et que l'attitude moyenne des gens a probablement évolué dans le bon sens.
Ce qui a surtout changé, c'est qu'il y a beaucoup plus de gens qui voyagent et, qu'en valeur absolu (mais pas forcément proportionnellement), il est "logique" (ou mathématique) qu'il y ait plus de gens malpolis.
Si le manque de savoir-vivre des groupes s'exprime parfois sur le terrain par des comportements bruyants celui des individuels est plus perfide car ils n'hésitent plus à balancer des informations lapidaires sur un pays quitte à fouler au pied son image.
Je te donne un exemple pas plus loin qu'ici sur VF dans la section : "Vietnam". Ce pays que je viens de découvrir est l'objet d'attaques incessantes pour le présenter comme sale, pollué, moche et surtout avec une population imbuvable. Franchement à lire certains je m'attendais au pire, mais après 1 mois de périple en plus des beautés naturelles, mon meilleur souvenir restera à jamais les vietnamiens eux-mêmes. Ils sont largement sympas, rigolards, attentionnés pour le voyageur et puis j'aime bien leur sens du commerce car on finit toujours par trouver une solution. Si ce n'est pas un manque de savoir vivre que de raconter n'importe quoi sous prétexte d'avoir connu une mésaventure avec le chauffeur de taxi ou parce que l'hôtelier a oublié le pancake au petit déjeuner!!!
Voici 2 montages qui résument mon ressenti sur ce pays. Des sourires comme ceux-là ou cette sérénité je l'ai croisé des centaines de fois du nord au sud...
Voici 2 montages qui résument mon ressenti sur ce pays. Des sourires comme ceux-là ou cette sérénité je l'ai croisé des centaines de fois du nord au sud...
salut
est ce une affiche ou as tu croisé ces ravissantes dames ?🙂
hello,
Ce sont des montages réalisés à partir de photos prises au cours de mon voyage. Les 3 ravissantes jeunes filles ont spontanément posé voyant que je leur portais un intérêt photographique. Il faut dire qu'en général les vietnamiennes aiment poser avec un p'tit côté glamour. J'aime bien aussi la photo à la fois sereine et attentive de la commerçante qui fait ses comptes...
Ce sont des montages réalisés à partir de photos prises au cours de mon voyage. Les 3 ravissantes jeunes filles ont spontanément posé voyant que je leur portais un intérêt photographique. Il faut dire qu'en général les vietnamiennes aiment poser avec un p'tit côté glamour. J'aime bien aussi la photo à la fois sereine et attentive de la commerçante qui fait ses comptes...
Bonjour ou bonsoir a tous, et un grand salut a toi williama.
Voila je suis a peu pret d''accord avec ce qui s''est dit, voila maintenant 3 mois que j''ai quitte la france, j''ai passe 2 mois en thailande, et je suis actuellement au cambodge depuis 1 mois, et je vois enormement de choses tous les jours, pas toujours belles a voir, mais ca fait partie du quotidien, parfois c''est difficile de se voiler la face, en se disant qu''on est impuissant.
Pour en venir sur le sujet du respect des etrangers qu''ont ou n''ont pas vis a vis des locaux, j''ai ete confronte a voir des expatries(francais), parler comme des chiens aux locaux, car ils ont des apprioris, sur ces gens la, et les denigres sans vergognes.Comme disait une personne plus haut, ils sont differents de nous , sur bien des rapports, moi, cést pour ca que je suis la, ca me plait, et depuis 3 mois, je frequente autant de locaux, que d''occidentaux, et j''apprends enormement de choses, et je partage enormement de choses, mais tout cela se fait automatiquement, sans avoir a porter de jugements.
Pour finir, je dirais, que pour voyager, ou s''expatrier, il faut s''avoir se taire, ecouter, observer, et ne pas essayer d''inculquer notre culture a ces gens la, ils n''ent n''ont pas besoin.Excusez moi pur l''ecriture, mais j''ai un clavier QWERTY, c''est pas evident.
A Bientot
ON NE CHOISIT PAS SON ENDROIT DE NAISSANCE, PAR CONTRE,
ON PEUT CHOISIR L'ENDROIT OU L'ON VEUT DECEDER
Merci à toutes et tous d'avoir été sensibles au sujet du savoir-vivre dont j'ai parlé voilà quelques jours déjà ; toutefois, les exégèses et autres dissertations philosophiques noient un peu trop le poisson et j'en resterai pour ma part à la phrase que j'ai rapportée depuis certaines cinversations que j'ai eues au Viet Nam, à savoir :
" Respecter l'AUTRE, c'es se respecter soi-même et se respecter revient à respecter l'AUTRE , également ".
En outre, j'oserai ajouter ce que LAO TSEU écrivait :
Celui qui parle ne sait pas, celui qui sait ne parle pas... "
Amitiés cordiales à toutes et tous
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voyant que je leur portais un intérêt photographique Juste photographique ? ...😉 en général les pirates sont moins romantiques..
Bonjour Ami voyageur,
Dans le genre que vous stigmatisez, dans l'avion qui me ramenait en France, j'ai subi la logorrhée de deux " BOBOS " et je vous la livre texto :
" Le Viet Nam... C'est trop chaud, c'est sale et ça pue ".
Ces deux pauvres types parlaient assez fort pour que leur discours profitât aux autres voyageurs dans un rayon de trois mètres, voire plus ; de surcroît, il fallait les voir pérorer, étant fort satisfaits d'étaler leur suffisance, des opinions, un savoir et un vécu tout à fait pertinents, qui se voulaient sans appel.
Finalement, tant pis pour eux car :
QUAND ON EST C.., C'EST PAS PAREIL QUE QUAND ON EST PAS C..
Cordialités bien amicales de Vietalier
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Bonjour,
C'est un sujet qui fut souvent traité ici; Ce n'est pas propre aux Français mais propre aux destinations tourisme de masse Ce qui est vrai par contre; c'est que beaucoup de touristes Français sont des râleurs invétérés et ça peut vite devenir nauséabond; mais finalement il se comporte de manière quasi égale en France (on est le pays des gens jamais contents et satisfaits, le pays des grèves, le pays ou il paraît certains ont fait une révolution un jour...)😄
C'est un sujet qui fut souvent traité ici; Ce n'est pas propre aux Français mais propre aux destinations tourisme de masse Ce qui est vrai par contre; c'est que beaucoup de touristes Français sont des râleurs invétérés et ça peut vite devenir nauséabond; mais finalement il se comporte de manière quasi égale en France (on est le pays des gens jamais contents et satisfaits, le pays des grèves, le pays ou il paraît certains ont fait une révolution un jour...)😄
Lorsque tu ne sais pas où tu vas, regarde d'où tu viens (proverbe Africain)
Ni aujourd'hui ni jamais, la richesse ne suffit à classer un homme, mais aujourd'hui plus que jamais la pauvreté le déclasse (Charles Maurras)
Ni aujourd'hui ni jamais, la richesse ne suffit à classer un homme, mais aujourd'hui plus que jamais la pauvreté le déclasse (Charles Maurras)
Concernant le manque de respect général des gens à l'étranger, je ne suis pas certain que, pendant les périodes colonialistes, les Français, Belges ou Anglais se conduisaient spécialement bien dans les pays colonisés...
Après plus de 56 ans, il y en a qui continuent de cracher sur ce forum des termes des anciens colons: "les viets", "les petites viets" ....
On voit qu'ils ont beaucoup de respect!🙂
Après plus de 56 ans, il y en a qui continuent de cracher sur ce forum des termes des anciens colons: "les viets", "les petites viets" ....
On voit qu'ils ont beaucoup de respect!🙂
http://www.maison-chance.org/
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Les Viêt (en vietnamien : nguoi Viêt ou nguoi Kinh) sont un groupe ethnique originaire de la partie nord de ce qui constitue l'actuel Viêtnam et du sud de la Chine. Ils forment l'ethnie majoritaire du Viêtnam et constituent 86% de la population (recensement de 1999). Le nom officiel du groupe est Kinh, pour les distinguer des autres ethnies du Vietnam.
En Chine, ils forment une des minorités officiellement reconnues, sous le nom de Jing. Ils habitent essentiellement la province du Guangxi .
Alors continuez de jouer au martyr en croyant que ceux qui utilisent ce terme vous manquent de respect. Heureusement qu'aujourd'hui les français ont dépassé ce complexe.
Alors continuez de jouer au martyr en croyant que ceux qui utilisent ce terme vous manquent de respect. Heureusement qu'aujourd'hui les français ont dépassé ce complexe.
Heureusement qu'aujourd'hui les français ont dépassé ce complexe.
Surtout les grands cons?🙂
Surtout les grands cons?🙂
http://www.maison-chance.org/
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Moi aussi j'aime bien tes photos😉
Lorsque tu ne sais pas où tu vas, regarde d'où tu viens (proverbe Africain)
Ni aujourd'hui ni jamais, la richesse ne suffit à classer un homme, mais aujourd'hui plus que jamais la pauvreté le déclasse (Charles Maurras)
Ni aujourd'hui ni jamais, la richesse ne suffit à classer un homme, mais aujourd'hui plus que jamais la pauvreté le déclasse (Charles Maurras)
Je veux partir au Viêtnam !!! 🙂
Dis-moi, mon coquin, tu étais en train de les mâter ces deux superbes créatures, hein ? Elles parlaient français ? 😎😛😉
Dis-moi, mon coquin, tu étais en train de les mâter ces deux superbes créatures, hein ? Elles parlaient français ? 😎😛😉
Ben
Salut Alex et Ben😏
En fait, je me balladais tranquillement près du lac central avec ma chemise hawaïenne largement ouverte pour faire apparaître mon lapin mort, mes cicatrices, ma bandoulière Nikon. Avec mes légendaires ray ban sur le nez, lorsque j'ai été agressé par ces jeunes femmes. Bien sûr la résistance fut faible ... Bon je prépare le montage 2 hyper hot. Je le mettrai en ligne cette nuit à 4h précise. Soyez vigilents mettez vos réveils car à 4h01 la censure s'abattra impitoyablement et le cadenas avec...😛
En fait, je me balladais tranquillement près du lac central avec ma chemise hawaïenne largement ouverte pour faire apparaître mon lapin mort, mes cicatrices, ma bandoulière Nikon. Avec mes légendaires ray ban sur le nez, lorsque j'ai été agressé par ces jeunes femmes. Bien sûr la résistance fut faible ... Bon je prépare le montage 2 hyper hot. Je le mettrai en ligne cette nuit à 4h précise. Soyez vigilents mettez vos réveils car à 4h01 la censure s'abattra impitoyablement et le cadenas avec...😛
bonsoir,
Dis-moi, mon coquin, tu étais en train de les mâter ces deux superbes créatures, hein ? Elles parlaient français ? 😎😛😉
je me disais aussi !
je me disais aussi !
Bonjour Alexp79,
Après avoir lu votre réponse, j'en resterai à la maxime que vous proposez :
" Lorsque tu ne sais pas où tu vas, regarde d'où tu viens "
Par ailleurs, et s'agissant toujours du savoir-vivre, je ne pensais pas déclancher une telle polémique ; mais j'avais oublié que certains " ténors " s'érigent volontiers en redresseurs de torts, en donneurs de leçons, confondant volontiers - voire volontairement - la majorité des humbles et honnêtes colons avec quelques minorités de colonialistes avérés dont il faut savoir que les premiers vécurent " DANS " le pays qui les accueillit tant ils s'intégrèrent à sa population - voire ses peuplements -, y fondant des familles mixtes, MÉTISSES, telle la mienne ; quant aux seconds, ils ne firent que vivre " SUR " le même pays en ramenant tout à eux sans rien donner en échange.
Alors, un peu plus de bon sens et un peu moins de parti-pris relèveront le niveau des débats qui, bien souvent, en a grand besoin.
Cela dit, ne prenez pas ce qui précède pour vous " Alexp79 " car, ayant lu les réponses et prises de position qui encadrent vos lignes sur le Forum, je m'adresse à ceux qui se sentiront visés par le fait que je les exhorte à observer un peu plus de sérénité et d'honnnêteté intellectuelle.
Merci à toutes et tous qui comprendront et cordialissimes pensées de Vietalier, le " demi viêt ".
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Salut l'ami,
Ta dernière intervention me fait penser à quelque chose. Sur ce forum, sans donné de noms, les amis se reconnaîtront ... je connais au moins une bonne demi-douzaine d'internautes comme toi qui ont fait le choix du métissage par amour. Souvent d'anciens militaires, des colons, des aventuriers ou des amoureux tout simplement. Et ce sont justement ceux-là qui sont le plus souvent taxés de racistes ou de xénophobes dans certaines discussions par d'autres qui n'ont jamais connu la moindre once de mélange sanguin depuis cro-magnon. C'est curieux non?😏
Ta dernière intervention me fait penser à quelque chose. Sur ce forum, sans donné de noms, les amis se reconnaîtront ... je connais au moins une bonne demi-douzaine d'internautes comme toi qui ont fait le choix du métissage par amour. Souvent d'anciens militaires, des colons, des aventuriers ou des amoureux tout simplement. Et ce sont justement ceux-là qui sont le plus souvent taxés de racistes ou de xénophobes dans certaines discussions par d'autres qui n'ont jamais connu la moindre once de mélange sanguin depuis cro-magnon. C'est curieux non?😏
je ne pensais pas déclancher une telle polémique ;
Est-ce de la naïveté que de croire qu'un tel sujet ne prête pas à la polémique?
Le savoir-vivre est un comportement qui ne doit donner lieu à aucune remarque, à aucune critique. Dans ce cas, il n'y a pas lieu à débattre puisque tout va bien dans le meileur des mondes. Par contre, le fait de soulever le problème du savoir-vivre, est-ce c'est déjà le fait de vouloir stigmatiser ceux qui ne savent pas vivre? Qui sont alors les donneurs de leçons? Ceux qui pensent que les autres ne connaissent pas le savoir-vivre?
la majorité des humbles et honnêtes colons avec quelques minorités de colonialistes avérés dont il faut savoir que les premiers vécurent " DANS " le pays qui les accueillit tant ils s'intégrèrent à sa population - voire ses peuplements -, y fondant des familles mixtes, MÉTISSES, telle la mienne ; quant aux seconds, ils ne firent que vivre " SUR " le même pays en ramenant tout à eux sans rien donner en échange.
Ceux qui viennent en expats ou en touristes au ViêtNam traiter les viêtnamiens de "petits viets" appartiennent à quelle catégorie de colons?
pensées de Vietalier, le " demi viêt ".
Je préfère t'appeler le demi-français, c'est plus poli🙂
Est-ce de la naïveté que de croire qu'un tel sujet ne prête pas à la polémique?
Le savoir-vivre est un comportement qui ne doit donner lieu à aucune remarque, à aucune critique. Dans ce cas, il n'y a pas lieu à débattre puisque tout va bien dans le meileur des mondes. Par contre, le fait de soulever le problème du savoir-vivre, est-ce c'est déjà le fait de vouloir stigmatiser ceux qui ne savent pas vivre? Qui sont alors les donneurs de leçons? Ceux qui pensent que les autres ne connaissent pas le savoir-vivre?
la majorité des humbles et honnêtes colons avec quelques minorités de colonialistes avérés dont il faut savoir que les premiers vécurent " DANS " le pays qui les accueillit tant ils s'intégrèrent à sa population - voire ses peuplements -, y fondant des familles mixtes, MÉTISSES, telle la mienne ; quant aux seconds, ils ne firent que vivre " SUR " le même pays en ramenant tout à eux sans rien donner en échange.
Ceux qui viennent en expats ou en touristes au ViêtNam traiter les viêtnamiens de "petits viets" appartiennent à quelle catégorie de colons?
pensées de Vietalier, le " demi viêt ".
Je préfère t'appeler le demi-français, c'est plus poli🙂
http://www.maison-chance.org/
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Ton raisonnement me convient,
Le ciel c'est comme la mer à l’envers,
Par dessus tout, c'est la joie qui m'en impose,
Et je vends ma sublime 500 Royal Enfield, qui se bronze à GOA !
Par dessus tout, c'est la joie qui m'en impose,
Et je vends ma sublime 500 Royal Enfield, qui se bronze à GOA !
hum c'est le genre d'agression pas trop traumatisante haha😛
Lorsque tu ne sais pas où tu vas, regarde d'où tu viens (proverbe Africain)
Ni aujourd'hui ni jamais, la richesse ne suffit à classer un homme, mais aujourd'hui plus que jamais la pauvreté le déclasse (Charles Maurras)
Ni aujourd'hui ni jamais, la richesse ne suffit à classer un homme, mais aujourd'hui plus que jamais la pauvreté le déclasse (Charles Maurras)
Coucou
Les discussions du forum "pensées réflexion.." sont souvent un peu enflammées; mais ça fait parti du charme de cette rubrique si tout le monde était d'accord sur tout; je pense que cette rubrique perdrait beaucoup en intérêt.
Je ne me suis pas senti visé; pas de soucis😉
Et concernant le métissage; comme dit si bien le pirate; c'est fréquent sur ce forum et c'est normal; les voyages entraînent des rencontres, qui parfois bouleversent une vie🙂
Les discussions du forum "pensées réflexion.." sont souvent un peu enflammées; mais ça fait parti du charme de cette rubrique si tout le monde était d'accord sur tout; je pense que cette rubrique perdrait beaucoup en intérêt.
Je ne me suis pas senti visé; pas de soucis😉
Et concernant le métissage; comme dit si bien le pirate; c'est fréquent sur ce forum et c'est normal; les voyages entraînent des rencontres, qui parfois bouleversent une vie🙂
Lorsque tu ne sais pas où tu vas, regarde d'où tu viens (proverbe Africain)
Ni aujourd'hui ni jamais, la richesse ne suffit à classer un homme, mais aujourd'hui plus que jamais la pauvreté le déclasse (Charles Maurras)
Ni aujourd'hui ni jamais, la richesse ne suffit à classer un homme, mais aujourd'hui plus que jamais la pauvreté le déclasse (Charles Maurras)
Merci chère Williama (je suppose que tu es du GENRE FÉMININ ?) de me ranger parmi celles et ceux qui ont appréhendé le métissage par simple amour car, pour moi, tout est là. En fait, ce sont mes parents qui ont fait ce beau choix dont je suis le fruit.
Quant à :
Errare humanum est
Que tu puisses faire remonter l'ignorance crasse de ceux que tu fustiges seulement à Cro Magnon, montre une belle indulgence chez toi ; pour ma part, je les trouve si pétrifiés dans leur connerie que je les crois volontiers issus en droite ligne du jurassique des couches inférieures... en pensant à un vieil ami qui disait :
" CON POUR LA VIE ! "
Reçois mon amitié sincère et à bientôt, peut-être ?
VIETALIER bien heureux de voir qu'il y encore des gens de bon sens.
Errare humanum est
Que tu puisses faire remonter l'ignorance crasse de ceux que tu fustiges seulement à Cro Magnon, montre une belle indulgence chez toi ; pour ma part, je les trouve si pétrifiés dans leur connerie que je les crois volontiers issus en droite ligne du jurassique des couches inférieures... en pensant à un vieil ami qui disait :
" CON POUR LA VIE ! "
Reçois mon amitié sincère et à bientôt, peut-être ?
VIETALIER bien heureux de voir qu'il y encore des gens de bon sens.Cela dépend de l'humeur du moment et va de Jean-Claude à Viet à lier.
Salut Abalone, Pour ma part, je n'ai pas de leçon à donner ; ce que j'ai dit n'est que le reflet d'un constat bien triste et c'est tout !!!
Ceux qui viennent en expats ou en touristes au ViêtNam traiter les viêtnamiens de "petits viets" appartiennent à quelle catégorie de colons?
À CELLE DES PAUVRES TYPES QUI NE SAURONT JAMAIS SE COMPORTER CIVILEMENT, Où QU'ILS SE TROUVENT, ET NE SERONT JAMAIS DES COLONS, MAIS DES COLONIALISTES.
Je préfère t'appeler le demi-français, c'est plus poli JE PRÉFÈRE " DEMI-VIÊT " OU MÉTISSE TANT JE SUIS SATISFAIT ET FIER DES QUELQUES GOUTES DE SANG VIÊT QUI CIRCULENT DANS MES VEINES ET QUI M'ONT PERMIS DE MIEUX FAIRE ET COMPRENDRE BIEN DES CHOSES QUE D'AUTRES, " PURS BEURRE " FIERS D'ÊTRE " BLANCS BAGUETTE ET BÉRET BASQUE ". Salutations VIETS - Chao em Abalone. Vietalier
Ceux qui viennent en expats ou en touristes au ViêtNam traiter les viêtnamiens de "petits viets" appartiennent à quelle catégorie de colons?
À CELLE DES PAUVRES TYPES QUI NE SAURONT JAMAIS SE COMPORTER CIVILEMENT, Où QU'ILS SE TROUVENT, ET NE SERONT JAMAIS DES COLONS, MAIS DES COLONIALISTES.
Je préfère t'appeler le demi-français, c'est plus poli JE PRÉFÈRE " DEMI-VIÊT " OU MÉTISSE TANT JE SUIS SATISFAIT ET FIER DES QUELQUES GOUTES DE SANG VIÊT QUI CIRCULENT DANS MES VEINES ET QUI M'ONT PERMIS DE MIEUX FAIRE ET COMPRENDRE BIEN DES CHOSES QUE D'AUTRES, " PURS BEURRE " FIERS D'ÊTRE " BLANCS BAGUETTE ET BÉRET BASQUE ". Salutations VIETS - Chao em Abalone. Vietalier
Cela dépend de l'humeur du moment et va de Jean-Claude à Viet à lier.
JE PRÉFÈRE " DEMI-VIÊT
Désolé, mais tu appartiens au passé🙂
Tu ne vis pas au ViêtNam donc tu ne lis aucun écrit actuel, que ce soit un article de loi ou un article de presse, où l'on parle de viet ou demi-viet pour désigner un viêtnamien ou un métisse!
Désolé, mais tu appartiens au passé🙂
Tu ne vis pas au ViêtNam donc tu ne lis aucun écrit actuel, que ce soit un article de loi ou un article de presse, où l'on parle de viet ou demi-viet pour désigner un viêtnamien ou un métisse!
http://www.maison-chance.org/
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
oui, williama possede 2 sexes, 1 crochet, et une verve de pirate. Gare !
salut ô pirate.... ah oui, d'accord avec toi.... Si en plus du mariage par amour, il est ancien militaire....Quel comble !
Et ce sont justement ceux-là qui sont le plus souvent taxés de racistes ou de xénophobes dans certaines discussions par d'autres qui n'ont jamais connu la moindre once de mélange sanguin depuis cro-magnon. bien vrai, quoiqueuuuuu cro-magnon etait plus intelligent que certains..... allez bonne nuit....
Et ce sont justement ceux-là qui sont le plus souvent taxés de racistes ou de xénophobes dans certaines discussions par d'autres qui n'ont jamais connu la moindre once de mélange sanguin depuis cro-magnon. bien vrai, quoiqueuuuuu cro-magnon etait plus intelligent que certains..... allez bonne nuit....
Eurasien serait plus approprie que demi bagette, quoi que !!! 😛
Le ciel c'est comme la mer à l’envers,
Par dessus tout, c'est la joie qui m'en impose,
Et je vends ma sublime 500 Royal Enfield, qui se bronze à GOA !
Par dessus tout, c'est la joie qui m'en impose,
Et je vends ma sublime 500 Royal Enfield, qui se bronze à GOA !
Affichant une pugnacité de plus en plus véhémente, tu n'autorises personne d'autre que toi à se définir comme ci ou comme cela ; je ne te trouve plus drôle du tout et j'irai jusqu'à dire que tu commences à m'emm..... sérieusement ; alors, prends-le comme tu voudras, mais je considère que cet e-mail est la dernière correspondance que j'ai avec toi.
Vietalier
Cela dépend de l'humeur du moment et va de Jean-Claude à Viet à lier.
Que tu te sentes visé par mes propos, tant pis pour toi car, ne sachant même pas ton existance, ils ne pouvaient pas t'être destinés... Quant à tes attaquens, je n'ose pas même te dire où je les range !
Vietalier
Cela dépend de l'humeur du moment et va de Jean-Claude à Viet à lier.
Cela doit grandement lui donner du talent et du charme ; tant mieux pour Williama.
Vietalier
Cela dépend de l'humeur du moment et va de Jean-Claude à Viet à lier.
mais je considère que cet e-mail est la dernière correspondance que j'ai avec toi.
Je viens d'effacer ce que je voulais te répondre, tant pis, tu ne sauras pas et si tu sens que je t'emm...., c'est ton problème🙂.
Je viens d'effacer ce que je voulais te répondre, tant pis, tu ne sauras pas et si tu sens que je t'emm...., c'est ton problème🙂.
http://www.maison-chance.org/
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
EURASIEN...
Je le suis de sang et fier de l'être, mais le terme a tant été utilisé à tort et à travers qu'il parvient, parfois, à me donner la nausée.
En effet, tant de gens l'ont utilisé, notamment depuis la fin de la seconde guerre mondiale, qu'il a été quasiment vidé de son sens premier pour souvent n'exprimer que quelque mépris ou un brin de racisme, quant ce n'est pas un classement social égal à celui des " petits blancs dégénérés par la consanguinité et l'alcool " que la mère-patrie a fréquemment oubliés - voir du côté des INTERNÉS de VINH, pour ceux qui connaissent un peu l'Histoire indochinoise des années 1940/1950.
En outre, retenant l'attention des traîneurs de sabres, soudards et autres machos d'avant l'heure, le terme n'est employé qu'au féminin pour parler d'étreintes très souvent restées à l'état de phantasmes non assouvis et de rêves fumeux peuplés de hanches félines, de jambes à damner les saints et de regards aux commissures en amendes ; remarquez que, chastement, j'arrête l'énumération au raisonnablement correct... le reste relevant de la grossièreté troupière ou de corps de garde en goguette.
Voilà les raisons qui me font préférer:
" Demi-baguette " ou " Métis " sachant de surcroît que, résidant dans le département de l'Allier (03), mon pseudonyme " VIETALIER " est un assemblage de VIET et de cette région française voulant dire, également, que je suis fou À LIER de mes origines VIETS.
Vous pouvez donc apprécier que votre :
" Bien souvent les gens se désignent par ce qu'ils dénoncent..... "
ne s'applique en aucune façon à mon cas.
Cordiales amitiés de Vietalier et à bientôt peut-être ?
Cela dépend de l'humeur du moment et va de Jean-Claude à Viet à lier.
Cher Raoulx, C'est devant le " comptoir du rêve " et celui du voyage parmi les gens qui savent te donner de façon spontanée plus que ce que tu peux leur apporter, te gratifier de leur amitiés même lorsque tu ne leur prodigues qu'un sourire ou un peu de respect silencieux.
Très amicalement de Vietalier
Cela dépend de l'humeur du moment et va de Jean-Claude à Viet à lier.
Xin loi Abalone,
Un jour je disais à une amie
" Tu sais, parfois je suis un peu con "
et elle me répondit avec gentillesse :
" Oui, un peu seulement... "
Alors, pardonne mon emportement dont tu me disais, voilà quelques temps déjà, qu'il est fréquent chez nous les " Nguoi lai ".
Si tu le désires, réponds-moi quand même lorsque tu le voudras et, à l'instar de ce que tu as effacé de ce que tu voulais me dire, mets un grand coup de gomme à travers ce que je t'ai précédemment envoyé.
Amitiés " lai ".
Cela dépend de l'humeur du moment et va de Jean-Claude à Viet à lier.
parfois je suis un peu con
Là tu deviens très français🙂
Saches que quand on dit "je suis un peu con", c'est plus honorable que de se faire traiter de connards et que "les viets" ont un sens aussi péjoratif que "les connards".
Pour le moment on est sur un forum, et c'est peu risqué pour certains d'utiliser l'expression "les viets", j'espère qu'ils ne les prononcent pas en face de moi, quand on se croise au VietNam (en 10 jours, j'en ai croisé 5 VFistes sur mon parcours!), car à ce moment-là, mon coup de poing part plus vite qu'ils ne se rendent pas compte.
Là tu deviens très français🙂
Saches que quand on dit "je suis un peu con", c'est plus honorable que de se faire traiter de connards et que "les viets" ont un sens aussi péjoratif que "les connards".
Pour le moment on est sur un forum, et c'est peu risqué pour certains d'utiliser l'expression "les viets", j'espère qu'ils ne les prononcent pas en face de moi, quand on se croise au VietNam (en 10 jours, j'en ai croisé 5 VFistes sur mon parcours!), car à ce moment-là, mon coup de poing part plus vite qu'ils ne se rendent pas compte.
http://www.maison-chance.org/
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Bonjour KUJILA,
...Concernant le manque de respect général des gens à l'étranger, je ne suis pas certain que, pendant les périodes colonialistes, les Français, Belges ou Anglais se conduisaient spécialement bien dans les pays colonisés...
Afin de pouvoir soutenir de telles interrogations... qui se veulent quelque peu affirmatives..., il faudrait que vous connaissiez le sujet dont vous parlez ; il s'agit, en effet, de savoir la différence entre COLONIAL et COLONIALISTE. Le colonialisme fut le fait de certains qui allèrent à la colonie pour quelques temps seulement car, sans aucune motivation, pour la plupart, ils repartirent assez rapidement vers d'autres horizons sans se soucier de savoir s'ils s'étaient bien ou mal conduits, l'essentiel restant leur conviction d'être de la race supérieure ; quant à ceux qui persistèrent, ils furent réellement très peu nombreux, par rapport à la masse des colons honnêtes qui refusa toujours de les intégrer. Bien sûr, et si vos auteurs préférés sont du type Malraux** ou de ceux qui furent édités chez les MASPERO père et fils (voir la couleur de leurs leit motiv), vous ne pouvez que mettre dans le même sac colons sincères et colonialistes abjectes. Alors, et je l'ai déjà cité, méditez ce que Lao Tseu disait :
" Ceux qui parlent ne savent pas... Ceux qui savent ne parlent pas !
Pour vérifier ce que je dis, allez au Viet Nam, par exemple, et tâchez d'y rencontrer les vieilles personnes qui ont des cheveux blancs et la mémoire intacte ; questionnez-les afin de savoir ce qu'ils auront retenu de bon et de mauvais de la longue présence des colons français et faites ensuite le tri des sentiments qui restent après tant d'années passées.
Amitiés de Vietalier.
* * Malraux - furieux d'avoir été traité comme un " DROIT COMMUN " (il fut traduit en justice et emprisonné à Saïgon) pour vol de vestiges sur le site du BANTEAI SREI (Angkor) en 1923, vestiges qu'il voulait vendre à des amateurs allemands et américains - provoqua une tempête à Paris avec, entre autres, ses amis Gallimard pour obtenir relax ; il se vangea ensuite dans divers écrits ANTI-COLONIALISTES, forgeant une triste opinion publique envers les gens d'Outre-mers.
...Concernant le manque de respect général des gens à l'étranger, je ne suis pas certain que, pendant les périodes colonialistes, les Français, Belges ou Anglais se conduisaient spécialement bien dans les pays colonisés...
Afin de pouvoir soutenir de telles interrogations... qui se veulent quelque peu affirmatives..., il faudrait que vous connaissiez le sujet dont vous parlez ; il s'agit, en effet, de savoir la différence entre COLONIAL et COLONIALISTE. Le colonialisme fut le fait de certains qui allèrent à la colonie pour quelques temps seulement car, sans aucune motivation, pour la plupart, ils repartirent assez rapidement vers d'autres horizons sans se soucier de savoir s'ils s'étaient bien ou mal conduits, l'essentiel restant leur conviction d'être de la race supérieure ; quant à ceux qui persistèrent, ils furent réellement très peu nombreux, par rapport à la masse des colons honnêtes qui refusa toujours de les intégrer. Bien sûr, et si vos auteurs préférés sont du type Malraux** ou de ceux qui furent édités chez les MASPERO père et fils (voir la couleur de leurs leit motiv), vous ne pouvez que mettre dans le même sac colons sincères et colonialistes abjectes. Alors, et je l'ai déjà cité, méditez ce que Lao Tseu disait :
" Ceux qui parlent ne savent pas... Ceux qui savent ne parlent pas !
Pour vérifier ce que je dis, allez au Viet Nam, par exemple, et tâchez d'y rencontrer les vieilles personnes qui ont des cheveux blancs et la mémoire intacte ; questionnez-les afin de savoir ce qu'ils auront retenu de bon et de mauvais de la longue présence des colons français et faites ensuite le tri des sentiments qui restent après tant d'années passées.
Amitiés de Vietalier.
* * Malraux - furieux d'avoir été traité comme un " DROIT COMMUN " (il fut traduit en justice et emprisonné à Saïgon) pour vol de vestiges sur le site du BANTEAI SREI (Angkor) en 1923, vestiges qu'il voulait vendre à des amateurs allemands et américains - provoqua une tempête à Paris avec, entre autres, ses amis Gallimard pour obtenir relax ; il se vangea ensuite dans divers écrits ANTI-COLONIALISTES, forgeant une triste opinion publique envers les gens d'Outre-mers.
Cela dépend de l'humeur du moment et va de Jean-Claude à Viet à lier.
bonjour,
c'est pas un peu ( tres ) reducteur de limiter malraux a un pillard ??? et du donner du grain a votre moulin en justifaint les ecrits de malraux (antifasciste, anti colon) juste par vengeance perso ??
et puis , dire que les colons etaient tous des gens formidable, ??????????????
le colonialisme, c'est avant tout, une invasion , une prise de pouvoir sur un peuple estimé inferieur , une accaparation des richesses du pays ( des terres, de l'argent, ...) , un sentiment de superiorité ( on va leur montrer le progres ) et un clivage culturel et geographique !
que certains se soient bien comporter ( dans l'histoire recente ), evidemment....... le generaliser et le defendre ?????
c'est pas un peu ( tres ) reducteur de limiter malraux a un pillard ??? et du donner du grain a votre moulin en justifaint les ecrits de malraux (antifasciste, anti colon) juste par vengeance perso ??
et puis , dire que les colons etaient tous des gens formidable, ??????????????
le colonialisme, c'est avant tout, une invasion , une prise de pouvoir sur un peuple estimé inferieur , une accaparation des richesses du pays ( des terres, de l'argent, ...) , un sentiment de superiorité ( on va leur montrer le progres ) et un clivage culturel et geographique !
que certains se soient bien comporter ( dans l'histoire recente ), evidemment....... le generaliser et le defendre ?????
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I’ve always wondered what I was "doing" on this earth. And why my father, who died a few months after I was born—a former youngest French resistance fighter—joined the First Saharan Motorized Company in Atar and spent the rest of his life repairing army engines in Algeria, Mauritania, Senegal, Mali (which didn’t exist under that name back then), Morocco, and finally Algeria, where my mother was born and raised. (Believe me, it’s not "cool" being the child of a soldier in a country occupied by France, and even less so the child of a "pied-noir.") Of course, I never got an answer: the dead don’t talk, and the army doesn’t either. But here’s the thing—I had photos... So naturally, one day I hit the road. I wanted to see, to understand. It’s thanks to VF that I was able to do a little research on crossing the Morocco-Mauritania border, and I’m grateful to its members, just as I’m grateful to all those who welcomed me on the road for 14 years. For the past few weeks, I’ve been wondering if I should talk about this or not... It turns out the Mauritanians changed my life by asking for my help... And that started as early as February 2012... (Did I owe them something? No answer to that question.) Ah, the irony—they saw me coming. But when you’re handed sick children and begged to do something, what would you have done? I’d worked in a hospital, so I knew a bit about the rules to follow. I didn’t hesitate. And well, over all these years, I met doctors, surgeons, and together we organized care, evacuations of children, training for surgeons—even trying to stop children from having to travel outside their country. It was never easy. I’d like to thank those who supported us, as well as *La Chaîne de l’Espoir*, *La Fondation Face au Monde*, and everyone who built bridges between our two countries. Unfortunately, despite the constant efforts of Mauritanian doctors and surgeons, some children couldn’t be helped in time. Today, I want to talk about four siblings—orphans of their mother—suffering from congenital glaucoma causing irreversible blindness. Their case was entrusted to me in 2020, just weeks before the big lockdown. We couldn’t do anything for them then, but when their father asked me for a gift, I rushed to my computer and wrote a story. Through a tale, the children take a great journey, explore their country, and fulfill a dream. I never thought this book would be published—it was, in 2023. This book pays tribute to Mauritania. It’s a message for those who know nothing about the hardships of life there, carrying both the harshness and beauty of an immense desert where you can travel by 4x4, bike, on foot, or by camel in complete safety. It bears witness to the kindness of Mauritanians toward travelers. As a woman traveling alone in my vehicle—a now-rusted old Mercedes that no longer runs—I had the most beautiful encounters of my life there (I’ve seen other parts of the world...). The blind children of Choum, Atar, Nouadhibou, and Nouakchott will forever be in my heart. Volunteer readers transcribed the book into a free audio version for the visually impaired. It’s available in sound libraries in France, the *Fondation Valentin Haüy*, and the Swiss Romande library. I made my last trip to Mauritania in my old 4x4 to distribute the book everywhere, especially to its heroes and the school for the visually impaired in Nouakchott. After that, I thought it was time to close the chapter because I no longer have the means or the strength to travel. My publishers chose this title for it: *The Blue Eyes of the Desert*. This publication helped a mission of Swiss volunteer ophthalmologists come to operate on glaucomas in Mauritania. I’m thrilled because they come back every year! This adventure is ending, yes—everything must come to an end—but ultimately, it was born here, on the VF site!! So yes, I had to say it: THANK YOU!!!!!
I’ve always wondered what I was "doing" on this earth. And why my father, who died a few months after I was born—a former youngest French resistance fighter—joined the First Saharan Motorized Company in Atar and spent the rest of his life repairing army engines in Algeria, Mauritania, Senegal, Mali (which didn’t exist under that name back then), Morocco, and finally Algeria, where my mother was born and raised. (Believe me, it’s not "cool" being the child of a soldier in a country occupied by France, and even less so the child of a "pied-noir.") Of course, I never got an answer: the dead don’t talk, and the army doesn’t either. But here’s the thing—I had photos... So naturally, one day I hit the road. I wanted to see, to understand. It’s thanks to VF that I was able to do a little research on crossing the Morocco-Mauritania border, and I’m grateful to its members, just as I’m grateful to all those who welcomed me on the road for 14 years. For the past few weeks, I’ve been wondering if I should talk about this or not... It turns out the Mauritanians changed my life by asking for my help... And that started as early as February 2012... (Did I owe them something? No answer to that question.) Ah, the irony—they saw me coming. But when you’re handed sick children and begged to do something, what would you have done? I’d worked in a hospital, so I knew a bit about the rules to follow. I didn’t hesitate. And well, over all these years, I met doctors, surgeons, and together we organized care, evacuations of children, training for surgeons—even trying to stop children from having to travel outside their country. It was never easy. I’d like to thank those who supported us, as well as *La Chaîne de l’Espoir*, *La Fondation Face au Monde*, and everyone who built bridges between our two countries. Unfortunately, despite the constant efforts of Mauritanian doctors and surgeons, some children couldn’t be helped in time. Today, I want to talk about four siblings—orphans of their mother—suffering from congenital glaucoma causing irreversible blindness. Their case was entrusted to me in 2020, just weeks before the big lockdown. We couldn’t do anything for them then, but when their father asked me for a gift, I rushed to my computer and wrote a story. Through a tale, the children take a great journey, explore their country, and fulfill a dream. I never thought this book would be published—it was, in 2023. This book pays tribute to Mauritania. It’s a message for those who know nothing about the hardships of life there, carrying both the harshness and beauty of an immense desert where you can travel by 4x4, bike, on foot, or by camel in complete safety. It bears witness to the kindness of Mauritanians toward travelers. As a woman traveling alone in my vehicle—a now-rusted old Mercedes that no longer runs—I had the most beautiful encounters of my life there (I’ve seen other parts of the world...). The blind children of Choum, Atar, Nouadhibou, and Nouakchott will forever be in my heart. Volunteer readers transcribed the book into a free audio version for the visually impaired. It’s available in sound libraries in France, the *Fondation Valentin Haüy*, and the Swiss Romande library. I made my last trip to Mauritania in my old 4x4 to distribute the book everywhere, especially to its heroes and the school for the visually impaired in Nouakchott. After that, I thought it was time to close the chapter because I no longer have the means or the strength to travel. My publishers chose this title for it: *The Blue Eyes of the Desert*. This publication helped a mission of Swiss volunteer ophthalmologists come to operate on glaucomas in Mauritania. I’m thrilled because they come back every year! This adventure is ending, yes—everything must come to an end—but ultimately, it was born here, on the VF site!! So yes, I had to say it: THANK YOU!!!!!
Hi everyone,
Who’d like to share their best and worst travel memories in a few lines? For me, it’s watching the TAJ MAHAL at sunrise and getting chased by dogs at the top of a mountain pass in GREECE on the way back from ISTANBUL. THANKS GUYS
Who’d like to share their best and worst travel memories in a few lines? For me, it’s watching the TAJ MAHAL at sunrise and getting chased by dogs at the top of a mountain pass in GREECE on the way back from ISTANBUL. THANKS GUYS
Hi everyone,
I’m Loulou, a French expat who’s been living in Southeast Asia for about fifteen years, currently in Phnom Penh, Cambodia. A passionate walker at heart, I’ve trekked in Nepal (Thorung La, Mardi Himal), India, Vietnam, and I’m still planning new hikes (Char Dham, Langtang, Annapurna).
I’ve just published my first travel journal, recounting three months of walking and encounters across India. A portion of the sales goes to an educational center I support in Kep, for children whose parents work in the salt marshes.
I’m also working on a second book about Nepal with a musician friend, focusing on the Mardi Himal trek—two independent perspectives on the same journey.
Happy to swap stories with you about the Himalayas, India, Southeast Asia, or just the urge to hit the road and walk far from home.
Safe travels,
Loulou
Hi! It was totally by chance that I stumbled upon VoyageForum (an ad online and a story lol), and I’ve been reading some really old posts from 2011 about Thai massage schools—discussions on how to get by, accommodation, prices, etc. It reminded me of my own experience: I kept things simple by staying with a local family during my entire trip. I only shared all the expenses with them, which, I’ll admit, was super cheap… and I often traveled with them, which naturally opened a lot of doors for me. To start, at the school in Salaya, my Thai friend immediately connected me with Teacher Phong (the school’s mentor and teacher of teachers, a former monk). I was supposed to join a group session with other foreigners, but for some reason I don’t know, I got two days of private lessons for free with this expert… incredible! And on top of that, he loved France! It was an amazing experience. I "discovered" massage by chance—the Thai family just told me: "Try it, you’ll see!" (I’d had a pretty intense massage in the capital before 😅… but the next day, I felt unbelievably great!))
Every morning, I’d take a taxi (chosen by the Thai family at prices that beat all the competition) to this school—I’ve forgotten the name of the little village now… right in the heart of the countryside. Then, in the evenings, I’d keep practicing massage on all the family members… and they’d teach me Thai at the same time!))
Since then, I’ve practiced a bit, with lots of positive feedback. Following Teacher Phong’s advice—he thought my pressure was deep, firm, and precise—he strongly encouraged me to take this seriously.
I love Thailand so much. It’s a whole different way of living… and it’s a real blessing, even if I couldn’t live there full-time. Anyway, that was an unforgettable memory, and sometimes the Thai family and I still say hi—from 2011, 2013… right up to today!
Take care, everyone! !
Every morning, I’d take a taxi (chosen by the Thai family at prices that beat all the competition) to this school—I’ve forgotten the name of the little village now… right in the heart of the countryside. Then, in the evenings, I’d keep practicing massage on all the family members… and they’d teach me Thai at the same time!))
Since then, I’ve practiced a bit, with lots of positive feedback. Following Teacher Phong’s advice—he thought my pressure was deep, firm, and precise—he strongly encouraged me to take this seriously.
I love Thailand so much. It’s a whole different way of living… and it’s a real blessing, even if I couldn’t live there full-time. Anyway, that was an unforgettable memory, and sometimes the Thai family and I still say hi—from 2011, 2013… right up to today!
Take care, everyone! !
"It seems to me that poverty would be less painful in the sun" wrote Aznavour...
Not sure...😕 Who can prove that people in hot countries are happier than others? What do you think?
Is it better to live in Montpellier than in Lille? Are the Pygmies happier than the Inuit? Are Canadians less happy than the people of Louisiana? Are there more French expats in hot countries?
And your travels? Do you choose your destinations based on the climate? Do you rejoice when a bit of sunshine appears?
Not sure...😕 Who can prove that people in hot countries are happier than others? What do you think?
Is it better to live in Montpellier than in Lille? Are the Pygmies happier than the Inuit? Are Canadians less happy than the people of Louisiana? Are there more French expats in hot countries?
And your travels? Do you choose your destinations based on the climate? Do you rejoice when a bit of sunshine appears?
Hi everyone, just this once I’m not posting for a travel story, but to share a thought for Venezuela.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed. Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed. Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
hi there
I’d like to invite you to discover my coastal province in central Vietnam: Quang Ngai.
This year, my province has really improved its infrastructure—mountains, countryside, and sea are all authentic here.
No harassers or thieves, and no Russians either.
A local lunch costs around 1 €.
A *** hotel room is about 25 €, and you can find hotels right on My Khe Beach.
We have a specialty: *banh xeo*—10 crepes for just 1.5 €.
You can rent motorbikes to explore the province and maybe visit the many ethnic minorities.
I live here—I’m not selling anything, but I can help if needed (my father-in-law is a traditional Vietnamese doctor and he’s very skilled).
We're planning to spend a month in Vietnam. Is hiring a guide helpful?
Hi everyone! 😉
I’m Typhaine, 35 years old. Five years ago, I left France for a solo round-the-world trip—no planes, just a van, hitchhiking, cycling, and even a canoe in the Amazon! Today, I work as a naturalist guide in Argentine Patagonia.
Wherever I go, my compass stays the same: observing and photographing wildlife, which I deeply admire and respect.
My project: I’d love to share this experience through a sustainable, authentic, and immersive nature tourism initiative. But to build something meaningful, I need to understand how other nature enthusiasts experience their own adventures.
If you:
Are over 20 years old
Have a true passion for Nature
Have already taken at least one trip lasting more than 3 nights (in your country or abroad) in your life
Then... would you have 5 to 7 minutes to help me by filling out this questionnaire? 🙂 »» https://forms.gle/y74ckkvN9TjrougLA
Promise: I’m not selling anything, this isn’t marketing. Your answers are 100% anonymous and will only help me shape this wild project. A huge thank you to everyone for your help and kindness! Looking forward to chatting in this thread 😛
(Dear admins, this is purely a collaborative effort for my project study, with no commercial purpose. Thank you so much for your support!)
Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
My project: I’d love to share this experience through a sustainable, authentic, and immersive nature tourism initiative. But to build something meaningful, I need to understand how other nature enthusiasts experience their own adventures.
If you:
Are over 20 years old
Have a true passion for Nature
Have already taken at least one trip lasting more than 3 nights (in your country or abroad) in your life
Then... would you have 5 to 7 minutes to help me by filling out this questionnaire? 🙂 »» https://forms.gle/y74ckkvN9TjrougLA
Promise: I’m not selling anything, this isn’t marketing. Your answers are 100% anonymous and will only help me shape this wild project. A huge thank you to everyone for your help and kindness! Looking forward to chatting in this thread 😛
(Dear admins, this is purely a collaborative effort for my project study, with no commercial purpose. Thank you so much for your support!)
Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
Hello everyone,
It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

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It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

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I spent 3 weeks in Bali last summer (+ 3 nights on Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java). So I wanted to see what ChatGPT could suggest for comparison...
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Hello everyone,
I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
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Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

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I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
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.Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

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I’ve kept the habit of blowing my nose in the sink and then washing my hands—a custom I picked up in India. Sometimes, non-travelers are shocked when they catch me in the act... 🤪
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
After taking a little trip around the world, I came back a few months ago with an idea in mind.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
As part of my Master’s thesis, I’m currently conducting a public survey on a topic that concerns all of us when planning a trip: artificial intelligence and the role of human contact in travel planning.
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
While browsing the forum to gather info for my upcoming trip to Thailand, I often see the terms "traveler," "great traveler," and also "tourist"—so what’s the nuance for you?
I've traveled quite a bit in Vietnam over the past few years—from the southern delta to bustling cities and even some small islands—but what really sticks with me is the north, the high mountains.
Up there, there's something different—maybe slower, more raw. The morning markets with ethnic groups, women in traditional clothes, the colors...
The stilt houses, kids following you and laughing for no reason, the terraced rice fields—it almost feels unreal at times, so vast and quiet, yet so human and simple.
You often hear that Sapa has become too touristy, and that's partly true, especially in the center. But as soon as you move a little farther away, everything changes quickly. The landscapes open up, encounters feel more natural, and you rediscover something truly authentic.
I think it's that contrast that struck me—the difference between what you imagine before going and what you actually discover when you take the time.
And you—what memory do you hold onto from Vietnam? A particular place that touched you more than others?
Hello,
We’re finalizing the plans for our upcoming trip to China in May 2025. The second-to-last stop will be in Zhangjiajie, where we’ve planned to stay for 2 full days before heading to Shanghai.
We’re traveling solo using local transport and have arranged to stay in the city of Zhangjiajie.
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
Hello 🙂
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
Hi everyone, here’s our itinerary. Arriving on the evening of December 13th. Departing on January 7th.
Thanks in advance for your tips and valuable feedback.
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Really disappointed with Costa Rica! Pura vida? The scam of the century!
(Costa Rica pure emptiness).
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
Hello,
Since the war between Russia and Ukraine, nothing is simple anymore for traveling to Belarus due to sanctions.
No more direct flights from the EU to Minsk.
Driving is a huge hassle, especially crossing through Poland at the only open border in Brest—you can wait 2, 3, or even 4 days just to get through by car.
The least painful driving option is to come via Lithuania and cross at the only open border, with a minimum wait time of 8 hours, sometimes up to 20 hours or more!!
Controls are very strict and annoying on both the Lithuanian and Belarusian sides. Avoid bringing alcohol, food, or cigarettes—everything will end up in the trash, especially when leaving Belarus for Vilnius, where the Lithuanians are tough, even with EU citizens.
The joy I once knew when visiting my wife in Minsk is sadly over—it’s now a real ordeal.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
Hi everyone!
I’m putting together our travel itinerary for Veneto at the end of April. And the more I look and research potential sites to visit, the more I find!
We’ll only be there for a week—my family and I—including 3 days in Venice. So we have to make some choices...
I plan to rent a car when we arrive in Venice and head straight to Bergamo, which would be our first stop. We’d leave the car at the airport when we return to Venice so we can explore the city at our leisure.
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
Now that the curtain has fallen on the past year, it’s time to see what’s happening around here.
It seems pretty quiet, but I’ll read more in detail later.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
I’ve visited the U.S. four times myself, including two long road trips. The last one was just this past August...
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
Hi there,
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
Hello everyone,
Controversial topic? Not necessarily—maybe just a reflection on a world to come.
I spent the last 15 days of August on a cruise in Greenland, from Kangerlussuaq to Tasiilaq.
I was utterly amazed by this unique world of rock and ice, the little houses in every color, a simple life that’s also complicated by isolation and climate, among other things...
I carry in my heart the kindness of the people I met, the raw and gentle majesty of the icebergs, the colors of the sky...
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,

Hello to all East Africa lovers and nature enthusiasts in general,
While I prepare to share a recap of our latest trip/safari in Kenya soon, I’d like to wish you all a peaceful transition between 2025 and 2026.
Warm regards,
Puma2A.





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We’re a couple aged 58 and 63. We’ve just returned from a wonderful trip to South India in Tamil Nadu and a few days in Kerala. We traveled with a local French-speaking guide and his friend, the driver. They both live in Pondicherry. We spent 3 weeks with them in the most authentic way!
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like! M-Claire and Jean
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like! M-Claire and Jean
This catchy and somewhat mysterious title comes from several questions I’ve been asking myself.
VF has been back open for a reasonable number of weeks and months now. The number of visitors overall matches past averages, but the number of members online in the last 24 hours seems relatively lower than what we used to see.
Yet, to my surprise, I’m seeing fewer travel journals, way fewer messages, and way fewer questions. I don’t see many new registered users online, and I notice a number of members who are logged in but either aren’t participating or have stopped participating.
Something’s not adding up for me because, in my opinion, VF is still appealing, and I don’t see which other sites could really compete.
Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid? Does it just take more time for some people to discover the site or learn that it’s active again? Do people now prefer quick consumption on sites like FB or others I’m not familiar with? Where have the site’s old-timers gone, and what are they doing with their time now? What’s really going on here?
VF has been back open for a reasonable number of weeks and months now. The number of visitors overall matches past averages, but the number of members online in the last 24 hours seems relatively lower than what we used to see.
Yet, to my surprise, I’m seeing fewer travel journals, way fewer messages, and way fewer questions. I don’t see many new registered users online, and I notice a number of members who are logged in but either aren’t participating or have stopped participating.
Something’s not adding up for me because, in my opinion, VF is still appealing, and I don’t see which other sites could really compete.
Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid? Does it just take more time for some people to discover the site or learn that it’s active again? Do people now prefer quick consumption on sites like FB or others I’m not familiar with? Where have the site’s old-timers gone, and what are they doing with their time now? What’s really going on here?

