The Ardennes, should I avoid them?
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hi everyone, just back from a little trip to the French Ardennes, and well, it wasn’t great...😕 people are cold, it’s depressing, the activities are just walks or the pool (when it’s even open...). it feels like there’s a lot of poverty and tourism seems like an afterthought. if anyone’s been there...
HA Halo Veteran ·
Hi, I find your comment a bit reductive—there are plenty of interesting cultural and historical visits: Charleville-Mézières with its museums and the entire Arthur Rimbaud trail, castles and strongholds like Sedan (summer shows), Bouillon, Rocroi (a Vauban-style fortress), abbeys, and beer (Orval and others). Not to mention you can visit Reims just an hour away by car (cathedral, architecture, champagne houses, etc.). For nature activities, you’ve also got cycling on the Meuse Valley bike path, canoeing in the Semois Valley, and the animal park in Charleville (free). I’m probably forgetting some, not being from the area. It’s best to have good weather because, admittedly, it’s not very cheerful in the rain. As for your comments about "cold people," feel free to generalize like that. Poverty is very real, though. That doesn’t necessarily prevent tourism—there’s actually quite a bit of Belgian and Dutch tourism here. To me, it’s a region with untapped tourist potential. When you see Parisians flocking to the Troyes area and the lakes of the Orient Forest on weekends, I think the same kind of tourism could exist in the Ardennes. Best regards, Halo
AL AlfredTeckel Veteran ·
In any case, for my only trip to the department, I went to the Charleville puppet festival and was delighted by the town, the festival (exceptional), and the welcome. That said, it was under special circumstances, but I got the impression of an unknown land waiting to be discovered.
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HA Halo Veteran ·
Hi Alfred, I see you’re also bringing water to the mill 🙂. I’ve never been to that festival you’re confirming the reputation of. But it only happens every two years—the next one is in September 2013! On the other hand, for those interested, the "Le Cabaret Vert" music festival takes place every year at the end of August: http://08.agendaculturel.fr/festival/le-cabaret-vert-2012.html : this year from August 23 to 26, with Franz Ferdinand, Charlie Winston, etc. I’ll admit the lineup has really filled out since my last visit several years ago!
AL AlfredTeckel Veteran ·
I’d written a recap of this really awesome experience: http://nouvellefeuille.canalblog.com/archives/2011/12/30/23098286.html
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HA Halo Veteran ·
Great job and thanks for sharing!
FL Flore25 ·
Bouillon, abbeys, and beer (Orval and others), not to mention you can visit Reims just an hour away (cathedral, architecture, champagne houses, etc.). Halo

Hi there, It’s a sad observation, and I spoke with locals from Charleville who weren’t very optimistic about the appeal of the department. They actually recommended the neighboring Belgian side instead, I think. Reims, Bouillon, Orval, and canoeing on the Semoy—if I remember right—aren’t in the French Ardennes. No, I wouldn’t come back. We met a family from La Creuse who said they weren’t very well received (the same site we found closed) and left the same day... I think they’re also going to send a little note to the local tourism folks... There’s even a site that talks about "Charleville misery": http://charleville-misere.over-blog.com
JM Jmga ·
Hi, It's clear—the Ardennes are underrated. Still, they attract people from Reims, Parisians, and plenty of folks from the north. Lots of Dutch people have holiday homes here. The landscapes are always green and hilly, and our forests draw them in. The prices too! For the cost of a 20 m² studio by the sea, you can find renovated farmhouses with land here! As for the welcome, don’t judge by appearances! Ardennes locals are naturally wary—understandable, given the waves of German troops they’ve seen in 1815, 1870, 1914, and 1940. That’s enough to cool anyone’s hospitality. People here are poor but never ask for anything; they owe nothing to anyone and give without bragging. It’s a far cry from the south! Proportionally to their wealth, they give much more to the Téléthon than others, not to mention the number of blood donors (a national record per capita). There’s so much more to say about the Ardennes. A little tip: check out www.visitardennes.e-monsite.com.
ST Stratele52 Globetrotter ·
What’s the gorgeous town shown on the page www.visitardennes.....? Stunning.
Le vol est trop important dans un voyage pour ne regarder que le prix.
JM Jmga ·
Thanks for the compliments! Givet, a small border town with Belgium, marks the northern tip of the "Ardennes point," easy to spot on the map of France and often used as a reference by weather reporters! Victor Hugo wrote a short travel journal about it, and Simenon set one of his famous Maigret novels there. Hello to the Canadians—I have wonderful memories of my trip to Canada: Niagara Falls! Best regards,
ST Stratele52 Globetrotter ·
Thanks for the info. 😏

A few weeks ago, I passed right by without even knowing it while driving from Verdun to Bouillon and Dinant in Belgium. What a shame.😕
Le vol est trop important dans un voyage pour ne regarder que le prix.
NI NicolasDB ·
It's a real shame you didn't have a good stay in the Ardennes. It's actually a beautiful region. Maybe you should try the Belgian side instead!!! hahaha... Belgians are cooler, I think.

There are plenty of gîtes and guesthouses, not all are equal, but there are still some Ardennes locals who'll welcome you warmly, I'm sure!

The great thing about the Ardennes is that it's close by and feels really remote for those who don't live too far from the area. In my opinion, it's the perfect spot for a breath of nature and fresh air in peace. There are loads of great hikes and lovely villages. So make the most of it! You don't always need to go far to have an amazing holiday!!!!
AU Aurélien4273 ·
Hey, I went there recently and had a totally different experience. Honestly, I really liked the Ardennes, especially around Fort de Charlemont. The setting is impressive, there’s a great vibe with the historic site, and the treetop adventure course there is really well done. That said, it’s true it’s not a super lively destination like some hyper-touristy areas, but if you're looking for peace, nature, and a few sporty or unique activities, you can really have a great time. I think it depends a lot on what you're looking for too.
MA Mathews Globetrotter ·
Is this a troll or what? It’s true that if you prefer livelier destinations, you should head to Saint-Tropez or somewhere like that, as mentioned earlier. As previously said, for those looking for a peaceful trip to recharge, the Ardennes are perfect. Venture deep into the dense forests, and you’ll find places where hardly anyone ever goes.
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
The Ardennes, where I lived for 3 years... best visited together with the Meuse, which is a real invitation to boredom. In the northeast quarter of the country, only Alsace is breathtaking. Good thing some people have unique tastes—otherwise, everyone would go to the same places.
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
PO Poste42 Veteran ·
Hi there. I assume you're talking about the department. I went there 3 years ago, and even though it’s a long way to get there, it was a dream—like a waking dream. On vacation.

I really found Charleville-Mézières beautiful and interesting to visit, plus there was plenty of parking. Sedan less so, because it was less lively.

On the way back, there was a rest area with the Ardennes wild boar. It’s worth a detour.

Anyway, I was just a tourist, and it was in the summer.
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
On the way back, a rest area with the Ardennes wild boar. It’s worth a detour. Anyway, I was just a tourist, and it was summer.

Back in the 80s, I met the artist Eric Sleziak. We were both hosts on the same local radio station. One day, he invited me to see his work. I was blown away by the amazing pieces he created: knights, futuristic warriors, fantastical animals made of metal. I told him he had a bright future ahead, and I wasn’t wrong. He had a real strong mindset—he was really reluctant to commercialize or sell his art.

Yes, you’re right, it’s best to visit the Ardennes in the summer. There are some lovely spots there, just like almost everywhere in France.
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
MA Mathews Globetrotter ·
Don’t badmouth the Ardennes—I might buy a place there since it’s so affordable. And anyway, I hate big cities, so please, Jojoone, don’t put down people who love quiet spots.

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