Tourisme sexuel, tourisme de masse, tourisme charter, tourisme de surconsommation...
Peut on tout accepter? Et surtout en tant que voyageurs grands ou petits que nous sommes, sommes nous conscients des conséquences de nos voyages?
Ont ils des impacts negatifs sur la localité...? Sommes nous vraiment au courant de tout? Respectons nous l'environnement?
Deja nous posons nous toutes ces questions avant de partir?
Quand je vois que sur ce forum certains tolerent facilement le tourisme sexuel... je me pose ces questions... Sommes nous de bons voyageurs, respecteux et consciencieux?
(Attention je ne souhaite ici accuser personne... je prefere prevenir pour eviter que certains esprits qui s'echauffent vite soient à l'attaque)
Bref je voudrais ici surtout citer un site tres interressant sur le sujet ou quelques articles en provenant:
L'une des principales menaces à combattre pour atteindre un développement durable et respecter notre environnement (et par consequent ici un tourisme durable) c'est la pauvreté. Si on ne répond pas à ce problème, seule une frange de nos sociétés pourra se targuer de faire du developpement durable.
et j'entends la pauvreté au sens large: pauvreté pecuniaire et intellectuelle.
On pourra faire de beaux discours pendant des lustres et des lustres mais je pense qu'il faut d'abord eradiquer ces pauvretés si on veut aboutir à quelquechose de durable et equitable...
"Développement durable", "éco tourisme", "tourisme durable", "responsabilisation" et tutti quanti, j'en ris. De fumeux concepts qui ne cachent que du marketing !
Car, une fois pour toutes : DEVELOPPEMENT DURABLE & ARGENT sont IN-COM-PA-TI-BLES. Le reste, ce n'est que de la littérature pour médias bien pensants.
Mais il est vrai que ces douces illusions permettent de cautionner beaucoup de choses, le développement à outrance par exemple...
Durable, durable, béh non, tout a une fin !
Droit dans le mur nous allons, droit dans le mur nous finirons.
Car, une fois pour toutes : DEVELOPPEMENT DURABLE & ARGENT sont IN-COM-PA-TI-BLES.
Le developpement durable consiste simplement à répondre aux besoins des générations du présent sans compromettre la capacité des générations futures à répondre aux leurs (Rapport Brundtland 1987).
Il se doit d'être socialement équitable, économiquement viable et écologiquement durable.
Il me semble que se poser la question de ce type de développement face aux tourismes de masse ou face aux voyages est pertinente.
Le fait même de prendre l'avion paraît contradictoire, et pas simplement au niveau environnementale.
Un billet d'avion représente combien de mois de salaire d'un ouvrier khmer ou d'un paysan chinois .....
MAIS opposer ce mode de développement à l'argent me semble peu judicieux. Au niveau environnemental, il faut de l'argent pour produire en polluant moins, pour trouver de nouvelles énergies renouvelables, pour filtrer et assainir les eaux sales, pour avoir une agriculture plus propres, pour assurer la pérennité de la biodiversité ... ou juste financer la recherche.
Le problème n'est pas l'argent. Le problème est simplement dans son utilisation et dans sa répartition.
Notre survie passe par le développement durable .... la première chose à faire et d'y croire ....
Je pense plus a une reflexion personnelle qu'on devrait tous commencer par adopter lors de la préparation d'un voyage...
pas forcement de tous se mettre aux voyages equitables proposés par les tours operateurs qui sautent sur cette nouvelle "mode" pour encore faire du fric ...
pas très optimiste que tout cela mais en même temps TOI tu proposes quoi comme alternatives?
Aucune, car ça y est, je suis enfin résigné : étant donné (j’insiste) qu'argent et écologie sont totalement incompatibles, nous allons et atterrirons inévitablement "droit dans le mur".
Tout le monde se fiche de cette catastrophe ? Moi aussi, mais je le dis. Bref, je suis un pollueur décomplexé.
(Par ailleurs "être optimiste" ne m'intéresse pas, je n'en vois pas l'intérêt.)
Au niveau environnemental, il faut de l'argent pour produire en polluant moins, pour trouver de nouvelles énergies renouvelables, pour filtrer et assainir les eaux sales, pour avoir une agriculture plus propres, pour assurer la pérennité de la biodiversité ... ou juste financer la recherche.
Croire que la technologie (par l'intermédiaire de l'argent) va réparer tout ce qu'elle a auparavant, et elle seule, détruit, voilà là encore de belles illusions et typiquement beaux discours (ahh, les rapports "d'experts") qui ne servent qu'à cautionner le (désastreux) développement. Droit dans le mur nous irons, c'est inévitable. Ecologie et argent (moteur et seule raison d'être du développement, des profits plutôt) sont in-com-pa-ti-bles. Et comme l'argent ne disparaîtra pas...c'est le serpent qui se mord la queue.
Développement égal Recherche de profits.
Recherche de profits n'égal pas Durabilité.
T'es deprimant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
parle pour toi, tout le monde ne s'en fiche pas
je suis d'accord avec toi: l'argent et l'ecologie ne sont pas toujours compatibles...mais l'argent peut aider à preserver nos richesses naturelles ne serait-ce qu'en terme de financement des projets de recherche liès à la protection de l'environnement
ce qui pose pb c'est ceux qui ont la pretention de pouvoir tout acheter.
En tout cas, si en terme de pollution tu essemble totalement decomplexé, apparemment ce n'est pas le cas avec l'argent 😛
mais l'argent peut aider à preserver nos richesses naturelles ne serait-ce qu'en terme de financement des projets de recherche liès à la protection de l'environnement
Tu parles comme un expert-de-plateau-de-télé, c'est fascinant... mais donc peine perdue pour moi.
Bonne nuit.
je suis en partie (je dis bien en partie) daccord avec IooI mais bcp moins pesimiste
pour le moment malheureusement a part qqes cas isoles qui souvent ne durent pas longtemps le vrai tourisme durable (equitable, humanitaire, responsable, etc...) est tres vite rattrape par de pbs de financement, partage des benefices, evolution de la demande, ou autres problemes que notre monde ultra liberal leur impose
de plus comme le commerce des memes noms cela devient une nouvelle methode de marketting pour vendre tres souvent plus cher des prestations dont la repartition est rarement :EQUITABLE
a ce propos allez voir le site :senegalaisement il y a une tres bonne reflexion sur le sujet
pour ma part aux cours de mes recents voyages quand je vois comment et par qui est utilise les mots:durable equitable, respect de l environement, developpement villageois il y a pas de quoi etre optimiste (a part qqes exceptions je le concede)
nous allons tout droit vers les meme derives que l on constate de plus en plus dans le commerce du meme nom
jipi le zanatany
le voyage permet de garder l esprit ouvert aux autres
et si nous cessions de confier aux economistes le soin de régler nos problèmes de société...
Ouoh malheureuse ! Et la sacro-sainte croissance, t'en fais quoi ? On ne t'as pas encore assez martelé que y'a qu'elle qui compte ?...d'où l'utopie et l'énorme farce de notion de durabilité.
Tu accordes à l'argent une valeur qu'il n'a pas....
Crois en la bonté humaine 🙂 ... heuuuuuuuu finalement ouais oublies ce que j'ai dis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mais bon si ça fais boum ici, les hommes iront pollués une autre planète...(recmment on a trouvé une planète ou il y aurait présence d'eau je crois : la planète z machin truc, je ne me souviens pas du nom et j'ai pas le courage de googliser)
quand il s'agit de fric, comme tu dis, les ressources humaines sont inépuisables
oulala je commence à devenir cynique...😮 bon il est temps que j'aille me coucher 🏴☠️
Bonjour Iool,
Ton dépit mérite d'être modéré. Certes, les dégâts sont déjà importants mais les dénoncer c'est enfoncer des portes ouvertes. Il y a déjà du monde à se battre de différentes façons, à tous les niveaux pour tenter de renverser la vapeur. Si ce n'est déjà fait, rejoins-les plutôt que bouffer ton énergie dans le vide.
La formule "tourisme équitable, durable...." empruntée par les T.O. n'est qu'un subterfuge pour se donner une image de marque.
Mais il faut savoir qu'il existe de petites asso qui elles, font réellement du tourisme équitable, dans le respect des populations locales et de l'environnement, au large sens du terme. A ceci s'ajoutent leurs actions de terrain (solidarité internationale). Dommage, nombre d'entre elles fonctionnent sans subvention (comme nous), et sans publicité médiatique, mais ont le mérite de travailler en direct et bénévolement avec les populations de la base. Et là, c'est une toute autre démarche de voyage de partage qu'elles proposent.
Avec nos préparations au voyage pour expliquer et montrer les réalités du terrain avec diapo commenté, nous permettons effectivement de préparer les candidats au voyage que ce soit voyage-vacances, stage ou bénévolat, tout en les préparant aussi au retour souvent difficile, après avoir vécu le partage d'activités quotidiennes avec les villageois.
Oui, à première vue, il ya totale incompatibilité avec la finance. Sauf que pour mener nos actions, qui paie à ton avis ? Eh bien c'est nous pardi, tant en France qu'au Sénégal quand nous y sommes. Avec un budget personnel de l'ordre à 1500 €/mois, nous faisons le choix : pas de vacances, pas de sorties (concerts, spectacles...) car notre choix et celui de notre démarche d'appui aux populations les plus démunies. Et nous ne nous en plaignons pas car nous y trouvons notre épanouissement en souhaitant le faire partager par tous ceux qui le souhaitent.
Oui la polémique est grande, je remercie Soraya, Djeema et Jipi d'y participer
Cordialement
Geli 🤪
geli
oui ce que tu dis existes je l ai vu en afrique de l ouest et a madagascar mais malheureusement bcp trop d operateurs touristiques ont repris les qualificatifs (durable, equitable, partage, humain, environemental, bio ) uniquement dans un but mercantil qu il faut denoncer avec tenacite pour sauver les "authentiques" qui sont plus rares et parfois ceux-ci aux vus de l arrivee de qqes revenus commencent a deriver a une vitesse " V"
c est la consequence de ce fameux liberalisme qui fait ban..r tant de nos contenporains
jipi le zanatany
le voyage permet de garder l esprit ouvert aux autres
Bon déjà, t'inquiètes donc pas pour mon énergie, je m'amuse...
Et puis je ne dénonce rien, puisque ces catastrophes à venir (inévitablement !) me sont désormais complètement égal, et que je suis même devenu un pollueur et consommateur décomplexé. Essayez, ça a du bon, c'est tellement plus simple ainsi et c'est pas "prise de tête" !
Sinon ok, c'est bien qu'il y en ait qui en fassent du "tourisme durable", pourquoi pas (au fait, j'espère que le trajet vers le Sénégal se fait bien en mode de transport propre, sinon l'impact est déjà ultra-catastrophique, et je pèse mes mots).
Qu'ils se fassent donc plaisir, les développeurs-de-tourisme-durable et les touristes-équitablo-durables. Mais ce qui est sûr, que tu l'admettes ou pas, c'est que leur action est et sera toujours infinitésimale, des millions de fois plus que négligeable sur l'impact total du tourisme de masse, qu'il soit "durable" ou pas, "équitable" ou pas.
Même schéma pour, plus globalement, ce qu'ils appellent le développement "durable" (qui est un mensonge monumental mais que, une fois de plus, tout le monde a gobé).
Car, puisqu'il y a l'argent, la recherche de profits et les requins seront toujours les plus forts. Et, argent ou pas, les indispensables ressources ne sont pas infinies.... alors boum !
Oui Iool, chacun fait ce qu'il peut, avec ses moyens. Ne pas être pollueur aujourd'hui est devenue une vrai gageure. Chacun utilise son véhicule, sa télé, son ordi, jette ses ordures non dégradables.... donc implicitement tout le monde est pollueur ! ce qui n'empêche pas d'essayer de l'être le moins possible à travers les produits proposés sur les marchés de toute sorte. L'idéal : aller vivre dans un coin de campagne (non pollué !), produire bio, c'est -à-dire sans apport chimique, mais dans un sol qui n'est pas totalement épargné par les pollutions diverses ? Peut-être mais peut-être aussi à travers des comportements quotidiens de consommation réfléchie.
Et même si c'est infinitésimale, j'estime que c'est mieux que ne rien faire. A chacun son avis !
Quant aux requins, la race remonte à la nuit des temps. Il y en aura toujours, ça ne veut pas dire que le petit poisson n'a pas sa raison d'être.
Geli 🤪
En effet, Jipi, de plus en plus d'asso de petite taille certes, mais non moins efficaces s'y collent. Des mises en commun de nos travaux sont en cours, que le TO s'en donnent donc à coeur joie ! ça ne durera pas autant que les contributions.
Rien que par internet, il est clair que les gens recherchent de plus en plus l'info, s'intéressant de plus en plus à une espèce de citoyenneté solidaire.
Mon optimisme me porte vers l'espoir que nous aboutirons, à condition de faire masse sur ces gros "requins".
Une goutte d'eau dans la mer oui, nous savons rester modestes, mais selon le dicton : "les petits ruisseaux forment les grandes rivières"
Geli 🤪
je l espere pour toi
mais j ai peur que le durable, equitable etc... soient galvaudes comme l a ete l "humanitaire" et les "projets" mots que malheureusement sont souvent vide de sens sur le terrain!!
quand tu vois le nombre de jeune qui se targue de faire de l humanitaire (des 18 a 20 ans )alors qu ils n ont aucune competence a apprendre ou a montrer cela me navre car on leur ment et on les entraine dans sur des chemins de l utopie et de l inefficacite en profitant de leur argent!!
jipi le zanatany
le voyage permet de garder l esprit ouvert aux autres
Bien conscients du vide de ce vocabulaire banni autant que faire ce peut, nous nous évertuons à trouver d'autres termes au risque de passer pour des utopistes, nous parlons de démarche et non projet, d'ailleurs nous ne construisons pas de projets nord/sud, mieux-vivre au lieu de développement voyant où nous mène notre développement occidental, etc....
et lorsque des porteurs de projets ou candidats à l'humanitaire s'adressent à nous, nous commençons par leur faire définir ce qu'est pour eux "l'humanitaire", avant de leur démontrer les perturbations liées à ces missions vastement répandues par les asso de tout poils.
Notre rôle s'inscrit dans un premier temps plus en terme pédagogique, que solidaire que nous abordons avec réserve.
Plusieurs fois, des jeunes ont changé "leur fusil d'épaule" avec leur volonté de faire de l'humanitaire après nous avoir rencontrés, ce qui ne plait pas forcément aux institutions dont ils se prévalent, mais tant pis, ça a au moins le mérite de faire réfléchir un temps, les responsables "jeunesse" qui les poussent sur des sentiers trop bien balisés, sources de subventions !
Nous connaissons plusieurs asso inscrites dans cette démarche. Le problème est de nous faire connaître. Bien sûr il y a les fameuses sessions dites d'Education Au Développement, distribuées aux Universités demandeuses, mais notre démarche s'adresse aussi à tout public intéressé par une citoyenneté solidaire plus que par des grosses opérations financées par des fonds publics. Mais nous sommes de petite taille et préférons le rester pour sauvegarder une véritable transparence.
Geli 😉
J'ai été interpellé par tes propos, qui ne ressemblent pas du tout aux habituelles dames patronesses de l'humanitaire, et j'ai cherché à aller sur ton site
http://asso.un.free.fr/
et la, ..... déception !!!!!!
Une belle page blanche
sous IEE ou Mozilla, du pareil au meme !
C'est y free qu'est pas frais ?
Merci Jipi,
Bien sûr que nous continuerons tant que nous aurons la santé, quant aux avatars, nous en avons essuyé déjà un certain nombre, nous ne sommes pas à l'abri de malversations diverses. Mais tous ces remous provoqués par des gens mal intentionés nous affectent modérément, le principal étant de rester honnêtes vis-à-vis de soi et des autres.
Merci de tes encouragements, en attendant de se recroiser sur le forum
Geli 😉
Bon, tu ne m'as pas confirmé que les trajets vers l'Afrique se faisaient bien en mode de transport propre.
Mais je le suppose car, et tu seras d'accord, cela en serait presque cynique de s'y rendre (pour "aider" des populations) à l'aide de pétrole que l'on a toujours et que l'on continue de leur voler.
Heuh! Ya ti quéqu’un qui peut m’expliquer cé quoi ça la « décroissance économique ». Cé ti comme redevenir pauvre après être sortit de la misère»
Ah pis tant qu’à y être, cé quoi itou un « mode de transport propre » Feuilleter un atlas et rester chez soi?
En réponse à :
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Avec un budget personnel de l'ordre à 1500 €/mois, nous faisons le choix : pas de vacances, pas de sorties (concerts, spectacles...) car notre choix et celui de notre démarche d'appui aux populations les plus démunies. Et nous ne nous en plaignons pas car nous y trouvons notre épanouissement en souhaitant le faire partager par tous ceux qui le souhaitent.
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Ce n’est plus du tourisme ou du voyage. C’est de la coopération internationale.
DeCléricy
J’en appelle à vous ô Muses
Où tant ma vie passe et s’use
Qu’encore et toujours j’aime
Mes soeurs Galère et Bohème
Bonjour Iool,
Un mode de transport propre ? A part le cheval ou la bicyclette je ne vois pas ! et se rendre ainsi au Sénégal, c'est le temps qui manque un peu. Conscients de la pollution générée par le kérosène, nous prenons quand même l'avion 2 fois/an car nous consacrons le moins de temps possible dans les transports longues distances privilégiant le temps aux actions de terrain. Pour nos déplacements internes, nous utilisons aussi les transports en commun (pirogues, voitures) et nous marchons aussi beaucoup à pied. Et en France, nous utilisons aussi notre véhicule. Cynisme dis-tu ?
Nous ne prétendons pas avoir réponse à tout, simplement nous essayons de vivre de façon citoyenne et honnête sans emm..... personne. Tu en penses ce que tu veux, mais si tu as une meilleure idée, nous sommes preneurs bien sûr. Il est bien connu aussi que celui qui fait quelque chose est toujours critiqué par celui qui voudrait faire aussi quelque chose mais qui en fait, ne fait rien !
Geli 🤪
Bonjour DeClericy,
Contente de te retrouver.
Même feuilleter un atlas doit poser problème à Iool, car comment a-t-il été fabriqué cet atlas, de manière propre ?
Allez j'arrête d'ironiser, ça tourne à la sénilité. Pardon à tous de la brutalité de mon vocabulaire, mais je préférerai un vrai débat avec des propositions intéressantes !
Oui, ce que nous faisons est appelé communément solidarité internationale (coopération a une autre conotation), mais nous préférons "citoyenneté" car elle s'applique partout, y compris à notre porte, voire dans la famille... Il s'agit plus d'un comportement au quotidien finalement !
Rien de glorieux, mais nous avons trouvé ainsi je le disais, un tel épanouissement personnel, que si nous devions être sponsorisés ce serait d'abord par la sécurité sociale : nous ne sommes pratiquement jamais malades, nous ne faisons pas de dépressions nerveuses, et pourtant nous continuons de cotiser !
Blague à part, l'important est que nous vivons simplement dans un équilibre que nous avons choisi, sans détourner ni fonds publics ni fonds privés. De plus, nous apprenons en permanence auprès de ces populations très démunies, qui nous ont réappris que vivre passe aussi par autre chose que le porte-monnaie. Merci à tous ces gens ! A bientôt
Geli 😉
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Hi! It was totally by chance that I stumbled upon VoyageForum (an ad online and a story lol), and I’ve been reading some really old posts from 2011 about Thai massage schools—discussions on how to get by, accommodation, prices, etc. It reminded me of my own experience: I kept things simple by staying with a local family during my entire trip. I only shared all the expenses with them, which, I’ll admit, was super cheap… and I often traveled with them, which naturally opened a lot of doors for me. To start, at the school in Salaya, my Thai friend immediately connected me with Teacher Phong (the school’s mentor and teacher of teachers, a former monk). I was supposed to join a group session with other foreigners, but for some reason I don’t know, I got two days of private lessons for free with this expert… incredible! And on top of that, he loved France! It was an amazing experience. I "discovered" massage by chance—the Thai family just told me: "Try it, you’ll see!" (I’d had a pretty intense massage in the capital before 😅… but the next day, I felt unbelievably great!))
Every morning, I’d take a taxi (chosen by the Thai family at prices that beat all the competition) to this school—I’ve forgotten the name of the little village now… right in the heart of the countryside. Then, in the evenings, I’d keep practicing massage on all the family members… and they’d teach me Thai at the same time!))
Since then, I’ve practiced a bit, with lots of positive feedback. Following Teacher Phong’s advice—he thought my pressure was deep, firm, and precise—he strongly encouraged me to take this seriously.
I love Thailand so much. It’s a whole different way of living… and it’s a real blessing, even if I couldn’t live there full-time. Anyway, that was an unforgettable memory, and sometimes the Thai family and I still say hi—from 2011, 2013… right up to today!
Hi everyone,
I’m Loulou, a French expat who’s been living in Southeast Asia for about fifteen years, currently in Phnom Penh, Cambodia. A passionate walker at heart, I’ve trekked in Nepal (Thorung La, Mardi Himal), India, Vietnam, and I’m still planning new hikes (Char Dham, Langtang, Annapurna).
I’ve just published my first travel journal, recounting three months of walking and encounters across India. A portion of the sales goes to an educational center I support in Kep, for children whose parents work in the salt marshes.
I’m also working on a second book about Nepal with a musician friend, focusing on the Mardi Himal trek—two independent perspectives on the same journey.
Happy to swap stories with you about the Himalayas, India, Southeast Asia, or just the urge to hit the road and walk far from home.
Safe travels,
Loulou
Who’d like to share their best and worst travel memories in a few lines?
For me, it’s watching the TAJ MAHAL at sunrise and getting chased by dogs at the top of a mountain pass in GREECE on the way back from ISTANBUL.
THANKS GUYS
"It seems to me that poverty would be less painful in the sun" wrote Aznavour...
Not sure...😕 Who can prove that people in hot countries are happier than others?
What do you think?
Is it better to live in Montpellier than in Lille?
Are the Pygmies happier than the Inuit?
Are Canadians less happy than the people of Louisiana?
Are there more French expats in hot countries?
And your travels? Do you choose your destinations based on the climate?
Do you rejoice when a bit of sunshine appears?
Hi everyone, just this once I’m not posting for a travel story, but to share a thought for Venezuela.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed.
Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
hi there
I’d like to invite you to discover my coastal province in central Vietnam: Quang Ngai.
This year, my province has really improved its infrastructure—mountains, countryside, and sea are all authentic here.
No harassers or thieves, and no Russians either.
A local lunch costs around 1 €.
A *** hotel room is about 25 €, and you can find hotels right on My Khe Beach.
We have a specialty: *banh xeo*—10 crepes for just 1.5 €.
You can rent motorbikes to explore the province and maybe visit the many ethnic minorities.
I live here—I’m not selling anything, but I can help if needed (my father-in-law is a traditional Vietnamese doctor and he’s very skilled).
Hi everyone! 😉
I’m Typhaine, 35 years old. Five years ago, I left France for a solo round-the-world trip—no planes, just a van, hitchhiking, cycling, and even a canoe in the Amazon! Today, I work as a naturalist guide in Argentine Patagonia.
Wherever I go, my compass stays the same: observing and photographing wildlife, which I deeply admire and respect.
My project: I’d love to share this experience through a sustainable, authentic, and immersive nature tourism initiative. But to build something meaningful, I need to understand how other nature enthusiasts experience their own adventures.
If you:
Are over 20 years old
Have a true passion for Nature
Have already taken at least one trip lasting more than 3 nights (in your country or abroad) in your life
Promise: I’m not selling anything, this isn’t marketing. Your answers are 100% anonymous and will only help me shape this wild project.
A huge thank you to everyone for your help and kindness! Looking forward to chatting in this thread 😛
(Dear admins, this is purely a collaborative effort for my project study, with no commercial purpose. Thank you so much for your support!)
Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question.
They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕
Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
I spent 3 weeks in Bali last summer (+ 3 nights on Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java). So I wanted to see what ChatGPT could suggest for comparison...
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.).
Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did.
I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights
Sidemen (2 nights)
Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights
Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed
Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran
Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights
Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD:
- Walk around central Ubud (1–2h)
- Campuhan Ridge Walk
- Tegalalang Rice Terrace
- Tirta Empul
- Gunung Kawi
- Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN:
- Rice terrace hike (2–3h)
- Cooking class
IN AMED:
- Snorkeling
- Japanese Shipwreck
- Beach + relaxation
- Volcano sunset
ON GILI:
- Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK:
- Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall
- Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level)
- Ulun Danu Bratan Temple
- Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN
- Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well:
👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option
12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM)
1 PM: ferry
3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer
11 PM: start ascent
2 AM–6 AM: volcano
Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM)
👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency
💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR:
- Relaxation
- Quiet beach
- Proximity to airport (30 min)"
I’ve kept the habit of blowing my nose in the sink and then washing my hands—a custom I picked up in India. Sometimes, non-travelers are shocked when they catch me in the act... 🤪
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
After taking a little trip around the world, I came back a few months ago with an idea in mind.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays
where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya).
There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
As part of my Master’s thesis, I’m currently conducting a public survey on a topic that concerns all of us when planning a trip: artificial intelligence and the role of human contact in travel planning.
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
While browsing the forum to gather info for my upcoming trip to Thailand, I often see the terms "traveler," "great traveler," and also "tourist"—so what’s the nuance for you?
I've traveled quite a bit in Vietnam over the past few years—from the southern delta to bustling cities and even some small islands—but what really sticks with me is the north, the high mountains.
Up there, there's something different—maybe slower, more raw. The morning markets with ethnic groups, women in traditional clothes, the colors...
The stilt houses, kids following you and laughing for no reason, the terraced rice fields—it almost feels unreal at times, so vast and quiet, yet so human and simple.
You often hear that Sapa has become too touristy, and that's partly true, especially in the center. But as soon as you move a little farther away, everything changes quickly. The landscapes open up, encounters feel more natural, and you rediscover something truly authentic.
I think it's that contrast that struck me—the difference between what you imagine before going and what you actually discover when you take the time.
And you—what memory do you hold onto from Vietnam? A particular place that touched you more than others?
Hello,
We’re finalizing the plans for our upcoming trip to China in May 2025. The second-to-last stop will be in Zhangjiajie, where we’ve planned to stay for 2 full days before heading to Shanghai.
We’re traveling solo using local transport and have arranged to stay in the city of Zhangjiajie.
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see:
Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees.
We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain.
But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore.
A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Hi everyone, here’s our itinerary. Arriving on the evening of December 13th. Departing on January 7th.
Thanks in advance for your tips and valuable feedback.
Manila – 1 night
Coron – 4 nights
Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights
El Nido – 4 nights
Port Barton – 5 nights
Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan
Vigan – 2 nights
Sagada – 2 nights
Banaue – 2 nights
Bagabag – 1 night
Manila – 1 night
I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Really disappointed with Costa Rica! Pura vida? The scam of the century!
(Costa Rica pure emptiness).
The country where animals are free and people are in cages.
3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer.
Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness.
My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place.
On the main routes, we visited:
San José
Alajuela
Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side)
Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side)
And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched.
He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown.
What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor.
At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José:
It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken.
On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox.
From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire.
Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets.
Bars with security guards out front.
I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel.
The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses.
The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in.
A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park.
Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further.
We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it.
A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces.
A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures.
But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business.
Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse!
According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable.
Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos.
A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park!
A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park.
The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color.
Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded!
Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30.
The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches.
As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves.
A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!"
For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex!
The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for?
For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places.
In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs:
Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you.
For everyone else: run!
Hello,
Since the war between Russia and Ukraine, nothing is simple anymore for traveling to Belarus due to sanctions.
No more direct flights from the EU to Minsk.
Driving is a huge hassle, especially crossing through Poland at the only open border in Brest—you can wait 2, 3, or even 4 days just to get through by car.
The least painful driving option is to come via Lithuania and cross at the only open border, with a minimum wait time of 8 hours, sometimes up to 20 hours or more!!
Controls are very strict and annoying on both the Lithuanian and Belarusian sides. Avoid bringing alcohol, food, or cigarettes—everything will end up in the trash, especially when leaving Belarus for Vilnius, where the Lithuanians are tough, even with EU citizens.
The joy I once knew when visiting my wife in Minsk is sadly over—it’s now a real ordeal.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example.
For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk.
The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border.
The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times.
Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot).
For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border.
You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes.
From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??).
With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!!
For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations.
However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards.
Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future.
After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
Hi everyone!
I’m putting together our travel itinerary for Veneto at the end of April. And the more I look and research potential sites to visit, the more I find!
We’ll only be there for a week—my family and I—including 3 days in Venice. So we have to make some choices...
I plan to rent a car when we arrive in Venice and head straight to Bergamo, which would be our first stop. We’d leave the car at the airport when we return to Venice so we can explore the city at our leisure.
What do you think:
1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport),
1 night in Garda,
1 night in Verona,
1 in Padua, and
3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
Now that the curtain has fallen on the past year, it’s time to see what’s happening around here.
It seems pretty quiet, but I’ll read more in detail later.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year.
I told her:
“Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.”
“But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.”
I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk.
“Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.”
I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen.
“Mamido, I did it!”
My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no!
“Congratulations, sweetheart!”
A little shyly, she said:
“Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying:
“Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint!
But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out.
Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me.
But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back.
My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special?
That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
I’ve visited the U.S. four times myself, including two long road trips. The last one was just this past August...
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
Hello everyone,
Controversial topic? Not necessarily—maybe just a reflection on a world to come.
I spent the last 15 days of August on a cruise in Greenland, from Kangerlussuaq to Tasiilaq.
I was utterly amazed by this unique world of rock and ice, the little houses in every color, a simple life that’s also complicated by isolation and climate, among other things...
I carry in my heart the kindness of the people I met, the raw and gentle majesty of the icebergs, the colors of the sky...
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
We’re a couple aged 58 and 63. We’ve just returned from a wonderful trip to South India in Tamil Nadu and a few days in Kerala. We traveled with a local French-speaking guide and his friend, the driver. They both live in Pondicherry. We spent 3 weeks with them in the most authentic way!
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like!
M-Claire and Jean
This catchy and somewhat mysterious title comes from several questions I’ve been asking myself.
VF has been back open for a reasonable number of weeks and months now.
The number of visitors overall matches past averages, but the number of members online in the last 24 hours seems relatively lower than what we used to see.
Yet, to my surprise, I’m seeing fewer travel journals, way fewer messages, and way fewer questions.
I don’t see many new registered users online, and I notice a number of members who are logged in but either aren’t participating or have stopped participating.
Something’s not adding up for me because, in my opinion, VF is still appealing, and I don’t see which other sites could really compete.
Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid?
Does it just take more time for some people to discover the site or learn that it’s active again?
Do people now prefer quick consumption on sites like FB or others I’m not familiar with?
Where have the site’s old-timers gone, and what are they doing with their time now?
What’s really going on here?
This isn’t exactly a traveler’s question... I’d like to know who handles the technical side of this forum?
I run a similar forum on a different topic (unrecognized children), and we’re dealing with a few technical issues that are slowly killing our forum... so I’d have one or two questions to ask 😊.
Also, I was wondering who created this forum... who the administrators or moderators are, etc.
I think this forum is great. Much better than Facebook, which I’ve been using since it shut down (so I’m happy to see it’s working again...)