Trajet de Bouizakarne au Col du Kerdous à vélo (Maroc)
by Mneyrinck
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Mi-février nous partons pour un trip à vélo de 11 jours au sud-est d'Agadir.
Le programme serait le suivant:Arrivé à Agadir, bus jusqu'à Tiznit, puis par la côte vers Sidi Ifni, ensuite Guelmim et Ait Bekkou, Col du Kerdous, Tafraoute, Igherm, Tata, Akka puis retour Tafraoute par la R107, et retour Agadir par Ait Baha
Afin d'éviter la N1 de Guelmim à Tiznit afin rejoindre la R104 qui mène à Tafraoute, nous envisageons de bifurquer à Bouizakarne vers Timoulaye et de remonter par Tabahnift vers Tiffermit.
Savez-vous si cette piste est praticable à vélo? Et la piste R107 qui relie la N12 à Kmes ait Ouafka?
Nous roulons avec des vélos équipés de roues de 26" avec des pneus Continental Travelcontact.
Merci d'avance pour les infos.
Bonjour, en fait et pour être passé à deux reprises par cet itinéraire en 4X4 et également en moto, je t'informe que le trajet TIMOULAYE - IFRANE DE L'ANTI ATLAS - TABAHNIFT - TIFFERMIT est une route entièrement goudronnée. Par contre l'autre solution c'est vraiment une pista caillouteuse !!
bonjour
je suis passé en mars dernier à vtt: ...guelmim-fask-bouizakarn- taghjicht-souk tnine d'adai-id aissa-targa ou khdair- khemis ait ouafka- tafraout... donc à peu près ce que tu prévois: pas de souci particulier
il faut voir les greniers d'amtoudi et aguellouy près d' id aissa, et aussi celui de targa ou khdair
quelques camping car jusqu'à id aissa et après ça monte doucement dans les cailloux, peinard
c'est magnifique, bon vent
kiki
La carte que je consulte est la Michelin 742 ed 3 de 2007
Pourqoui avoir rejoint Taghjicht par Bouizakarn en non par Irh-Iguizzoulème et Ait Moussa -ou-Daoud (N12)? Est-ce impraticable à vélo?
Id Aissa ou Amtoudi est également au programme.
Parcontre je n'ai pas retrouvé Targa ou Khdair, cela se trouve sur la R107?
L'itinéraire se précise, merci pour vos info.
Michel
bonjour
je ne suis pas passé par irherm iguizzoulene et kasba ait moussa ou daoud pour cause de sécheresse, et gandini écrit que les villages sont abandonnés, donc pour l'eau...mais je ne suis pas allé voir
j'ai une carte au 500.000° marocaine qui mentionne la piste que j'ai prise droit au nord d'id aissa (panneau sur la route), qui rejoint souk khemis ait oufka, targa ou khdair est à une quinzaine de km de id aissa
si tu me donnes ton e mail je t'envoie une copie
à +
kiki
Bonsoir, Je suis au Maroc et je n'ai pas trouvé de carte plus précise que 1:800 000; ta carte m'interresse, si tu veux bien m'envoyer également la même partie. Mon email :peroudaniel@msn.com.
Merci d'avance.
Daniel
Salut
Je suis à Tafraoute en fin d'aprem et je vais randonner la bas un peu. Je suis moi aussi interessé par ta carte.
Sinon j'etais à Goulmim hier et j'ai rencontré un français et une allemande qui sont arrivés à Goulmim à velo. Ils ont vendu les velos, acheté une mule et partent aujourd'hui pour Tafraoute par fask .
Bye
nalex
Cher Kikilecyclo
Un peu tard mais mieux vaut tard que jamais
Tout d'abord merci pour les cartes, que j'ai pu imprimer sur une imprimante de plan.
La piste (45kms) de Id-Aissa ou Amtoudi vers Khmer ait Ouafka était splendide et tout à fait praticable.
Celle de Fask vers Tagannt l'était moins, mais cela valait la peine.
Pour rejoindre Oumesnat à Tanalt et puis Tizourgane il ya une splendide route qui débute quelques kilomètres avant Taguenza.
Il y a bien un dénivelé positif de 2200 m pour 80 kms d'une splendide route.
Ns avons parcourrus 670 kms en 10 jours et ce qui nous a le plus plu sont les splendides paysages, l'acceuil et les contact dans les maison d'hôtes et la sécurité et la gentillesse des personnes rencontrées.
J'avais téléchargé une carte pour mon GPS Garmin 60 CSx du site www.island-olaf/travel/marokko/gps trouvé par le site allemand marokko-per-rad.de
La carte Michelin de 1/1.000.000 n'est pas mise à jour.
Toujours disposé à renseigner ceux qui planifient un tour dans la région.
Merci à ceux qui ont contribué à la réussite de ce voyage
Michel
bonjour
je réagis tard, bien content que tu ais fait une belle virée dans ces magnifiques montagnes du sud maroc.
quoi de neuf dans les cartons ?
pour ma part, j'ai crapahuté deux mois dans le centre et l'ouest mongol au printemps dernier, c'est superbe, et tranquille, c'est le moins qu'on puisse dire .
pour un peu de distraction en toute simplicité : www.mongolie2008.blogspot.com
bonne continuation
kiki
Bonjour les amoureux du Sud Maroc.
Précieux vos tuyaux sur les pistes de l'Anti-Atlas. Ils compensent les cartes défaillantes. Je pars là-bas en repérage en voiture dans une dizaine de jours avant une longue virée en camping-car l'hiver prochain. Avez-vous des itinéraires à recommander en particulier ? D'autres à déconseiller pour l'option camping-car ?
Par exemple, si la 7076 d'Ifrane de l'Anti-Atlas au col de Kerdous est maintenant bitumée, est-ce que la piste qui relie Ad-aissa à Souk-Khémis-des Aït-Oufka, sans doute plus pittoresque, ne risque pas de massacrer le CC ?
Autres pistes/routes sympas près de la côte vers Sidi-Ifni, Mirhleft ?
L'année prochaine, on descendra sans doute plus au sud vers Tarfaya, etc.
Meilleurs voeux de voyages et autres bonheurs pour l'an neuf.
Michel Bager
michel bager
La piste de Id-Aissa ( Amtoudi) vers Khmes ait Ouafka est splendide, et à vélo on passe toujours, mais je ne puis m'exprimer pour le CC. Ns n'avons pas croisé bcp de véhicules sur la piste.
La route (macadamisée) de Tioulit à Tanalit puis Oumesnat est splendide.
Bou Jerif et Hi Tafnidilt, au sud de Sidi Ifni valent également la peine.
Ns n'avons jamais vu autant de CC circuler dans une région de notre vie.
Ils ont bien raison. Les coins sont splendides et les parking pour CC en bordure des villes comme à Tafroute font que les emplacements sont plus qu'abordable.
En envoyant un post sur voyages en CC vous aurez certainement des renseignements plus précis.
Les CC'istes m'ont renseignés des beaux coins dans le Haut et Moyen Atlas.
Ce sera pour la première quizaine de mai.
Bonne route pour 2009.
Bonjour,
je souhaite faire un voyage à vélo en famille avec un enfant de 10 ans au Maroc. Notre itinéraire serait Agadir, Aît-Baha, Tafraoute, Tiznit et retour à Agadir, soit par la côte, soit par le barrage à Inkass. Est-ce qu'il y a des dénivelés trop important pour un enfant de cet age? Est-ce que l'on peut trouver un hébergement tous les 40km environ (c'est le kilométrage envisagé des étapes)? Est-ce qu'il y a des épiceries ou des restaurants pour manger ts les jours (sur ce point, je me fais pas trop de souci)? Je m'adresse à vous aussi parce qu'en surfant sur le site, j'ai vu que vous aviez une carte au 500 000 millièmes: où peut-on se la procurer?
Merci.
Etienne etienne.delannoy@citedesmusiques.org
je souhaite faire un voyage à vélo en famille avec un enfant de 10 ans au Maroc. Notre itinéraire serait Agadir, Aît-Baha, Tafraoute, Tiznit et retour à Agadir, soit par la côte, soit par le barrage à Inkass. Est-ce qu'il y a des dénivelés trop important pour un enfant de cet age? Est-ce que l'on peut trouver un hébergement tous les 40km environ (c'est le kilométrage envisagé des étapes)? Est-ce qu'il y a des épiceries ou des restaurants pour manger ts les jours (sur ce point, je me fais pas trop de souci)? Je m'adresse à vous aussi parce qu'en surfant sur le site, j'ai vu que vous aviez une carte au 500 000 millièmes: où peut-on se la procurer?
Merci.
Etienne etienne.delannoy@citedesmusiques.org
salut
je vais te dire ce que je connais, le reste...
la carte au 1/500.000° n'est pas bien lisible, à peine plus que la michelin, si tu veux des cartes utiles, cherche celles au 1/100.000° que je n'ai pas pour ce coin, elles datent des années 70 , les montagnes ne bougent pas, contrairement aux pistes et aux villages, et il y a de + en + de goudron.
je peux t'envoyer une copie du secteur dont tu parles , mais si tu veux investir, achète plutôt, avec ou sans les cartes au 1/100.000°, le bouquin de gandini "pistes du maroc" tome 2 -le sud du tafilalet à l'atlantique-edition extrem'sud, et avec un gps tu trouves ton bonheur
a mon avis, moins tu traînes sur les grands axes du type agadir-taroudant ou agadir -tiznit, mieux ça vaut: camions, trafic, routes étroites, etc...tu mets tout ton foutoir et ton personnel dans un bus ou un taxi selon tes gouts, tu fais 50 bornes vers la campagne et tu es le roi du vélo,
après c'est tellement beau ...mais pour le reste, pouvoir être autonome me parait souhaitable, c'est pas le désert ni l'himalaya mais quand même...
kiki
Salut,
merci pour tes conseilles, j'ai déjà louché sur "pistes du Maroc -tome2" mais comme je ne possède pas de GPS je me demande si cet achat à un quelconque intérêt (je n'ai pas pu le feuilleter parce que je l'ai vu sur internet!). Sinon, as-tu un guide à me conseiller plus particulièrement, la plupart son assez pauvre dès que l'on sort des grandes villes.
Merci.
Etienne
merci pour tes conseilles, j'ai déjà louché sur "pistes du Maroc -tome2" mais comme je ne possède pas de GPS je me demande si cet achat à un quelconque intérêt (je n'ai pas pu le feuilleter parce que je l'ai vu sur internet!). Sinon, as-tu un guide à me conseiller plus particulièrement, la plupart son assez pauvre dès que l'on sort des grandes villes.
Merci.
Etienne
les guides touristiques sont pour l'éternité des guides touristiques, c'est à dire des outils commerciaux destinés à faire fonctionner les petits réseaux perso de ceux qui les ont signés , et donc tu trouves toujours les mêmes adresses ici et ailleurs, tout comme les circuits des pro du circuit, sauf exception toujours les mêmes circuits , donc il ne faut pas en attendre grand chose en dehors des villes- adieu les guides bleus de la grande époque.
gandini connait son sujet, c'est un bon artisan qui transmet ce qu'il connait et ce qu'il a vu , ce n'est pas exhaustif mais c'est de la bonne lecture bien écrite , très documentée, je te précise que je m'en suis plusieurs fois servi et uniquement a vtt, (pub gratuite), alors pour 60 euro le gps de base ...
bon amusement
kiki
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Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
Source code: https://github.com/patricklmarie/GPX-Route-Planner Online demo: https://patricklmarie.github.io/GPX-Route-Planner/
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
Source code: https://github.com/patricklmarie/GPX-Route-Planner Online demo: https://patricklmarie.github.io/GPX-Route-Planner/
Heinz Stucke has passed away.
He never stopped traveling the world since 1962.
So sad.
https://www.facebook.com/heinzstucke
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hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

Hello,
We’d like to go on a 3- to 4-month bike trip starting in December, crossing from Assam (northeast India) to New Delhi via Nepal.
Are there routes with light traffic along the Brahmaputra and through Nepal?
We’re also looking for any info on accommodations, wild camping, local interactions, etc.
Thanks,
Michel
Hi there,
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
Hi there,
I’ve been road cycling for several years, and I’m about to switch to gravel in the next few days—I’m waiting for my bike, which should arrive this week.
I’m planning a bikepacking trip in a few weeks along the Véloroute V81, also known as the Vélosud, from Biarritz to Le Barcarès.
Has anyone here already done this route? Any info is welcome, whether it’s about the route itself, gear, or accommodation. I’ll prioritize staying with locals as much as possible. On that note, I just signed up for the brand-new site *Guidon et Couette* ((www.guidon-et-couette.fr)), which offers free accommodation between cyclists across the country, but there’s almost no one listed along my route!
Thanks in advance.
Laurent.
Hi there, I’m planning a cross-Canada bike trip, and I’ve got a question that might seem silly, but could someone tell me how to pack a bike (in a box, with a fragile sticker... I don’t know) for a flight? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
I’ve gotten used to crossing Europe by bus to return by bike.
It was really convenient to take the bike without having to disassemble it.
But FlixBus no longer accepts bikes...
What alternatives do you know about?
Thanks.
Hi there,
I’m planning to ride the Dutch section of the EuroVelo 19, from Maastricht to Rotterdam.
Since it’s too complicated to bring my bike on the train, I’m looking to rent one locally.
I’d love any tips or bike rental shop recommendations—I’m struggling to find options even in Rotterdam.
The plan is to rent in Rotterdam, take the train to Maastricht with the bike, then cycle back to Rotterdam.
Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions!
Nath
Coming soon:
https://www.Biclou.com/parcours/durance/
Starting from Faverges: 900 km over 9 days

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Hi there,
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
Hi there!
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
Hi there, we’re a group of 4 cyclists looking to get from Treviso in Italy to Munich with our 4 non-folding bikes. It seems complicated! Are there any solutions? Thanks so much.






