Voyage organisé Autriche - Hongrie - République Tchèque
by Feufu31
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour,
Je ne suis surement pas au bon endroit... pardon d'avance !
J'envisage un circuit Autriche/Hongrie/Rep. Tchèque (les 4 perles d’Europe centrale) organisé par Boomerang.
Quelqu'un a-t-il fait ce genre de circuit avec ce T.O. ?
Merci d'avance de vos retours....
FrançoiseD.
enfin les trois perles : Prague Budapest et Vienne. où est la quatrième ?
je trouve que le circuit est vraiment rapide, et perso je ne ferais pas.
êtes vous limitée par le temps ?
pourquoi ne pas envisager de réaliser par vous même ce circuit ? c'est facile, et pour le même prix vous en verrez davantage avec quelques jours de plus.
🙂
je trouve que le circuit est vraiment rapide, et perso je ne ferais pas.
êtes vous limitée par le temps ?
pourquoi ne pas envisager de réaliser par vous même ce circuit ? c'est facile, et pour le même prix vous en verrez davantage avec quelques jours de plus.
🙂
Merci de votre réponse.
Age, langue, explications d'un guide... en voilà de bonne raisons !
La 4ème, c'est Bratislava....
Cordialement
ok. 🙂
vous savez je vais avoir 70 ans dans deux mois, je bafouille l'anglais de survie, (dans ces pays, on parle anglais sans problème) mais je me débrouille myself.
je fais tout à mon rythme, qui est très pépère 😎
Maisje comprends très bien qu'on passe par un TO, ce n'est pas un jugement. Je l'ai fait une fois, et j'ai trouvé que j'étais bien frustrée, donc je ne fais plus.
je ne connais pas cette agence ...
Maisje comprends très bien qu'on passe par un TO, ce n'est pas un jugement. Je l'ai fait une fois, et j'ai trouvé que j'étais bien frustrée, donc je ne fais plus.
je ne connais pas cette agence ...
Bonsoir,
Age, comme le dit Cambrousse ce n'est pas une raison
Langue: je serais moins optimiste que Cambrousse, l'anglais est parlé dans les grandes villes par les gens en contact avec les touristes, et encore ce n'est pas toujours facile. L'allemand peut être utile, mais surtout une application de traduction sur votre smartphone, en téléchargeant chez vous les langues des contrées traversées, après on n'a plus peur de rien ( je me suis promenée dans les pays baltes il y a 2 ans, je ne parle aucune de leurs langues, et l'anglais n'y est parlé que par les jeunes, et encore pas toujours, aucun problème avec google translate) .Si vous n'en avez pas, investissez dans un smartphone Android pour bénéficier au maximum de l'app, qui a moins de fonctionnalités sur Iphone, vous ne le regretterez pas.
Les explications d'un guide vous les trouvez aussi dans un guide papier......
Ce sont des pays bon marché, où les TO doivent se faire un super bénéfice. Autant y aller par soi même.
Je n'aurai pas le temps...
Langue : oui ds les villes, ici il n est question que de cela.
Prague et Budapest : on parle anglais a peu pres partout, y compris derriere la caisse des epicerie. Vienne je ne saurais dire.
Mais on arrive tt de meme a se debrouiller. Dans les provinces je ne saurais m avancer mais l apprentissage des langues est en europe de l est plus efficace que chez nous.
🙂
Les expériences peuvent être très variables. Il nous est arrivé, à la boutique souvenir d'un musée à Prague d'avoir affaire à une jeune vendeuse qui ne parlait pas anglais....Le chauffeurs de taxi ne parlent pas beaucoup non plus de langue étrangère. A Budapest, il y a quelques années, j'assistais à un congrès dont les organisateurs avaient engagés des jeunes pour aider les non magyarophones... j'ai eu beau demander, aucun n'a compris quand j'ai essayé de savoir à quelle heure s'arrêtait le métro.....( et je parle très bien anglais). A Vienne je ne sais pas non plus car j'y parle allemand.mais je pense que les Autrichiens doivent être plus anglophones que plus loin à l'est.
Mon avis est surtout que s'il fallait parler la langue de tous les pays qu'on visite, on n'irait pas loin.On finit toujours pas trouver un interlocuteur qui peut traduire, surtout dans des villes très fréquentées comme Prague. On peut s'aider d'un smartphone, on peut avoir un petit guide de conversation, nous avons fait cela en Tchéquie profonde il y a plus de 15 ans, quand il n'y avait pas encore de smartphone et qu'il n'y avait personne parlant une langue que nous parlons, Cela nous a valu d'ailleurs quelques surprises en commandant plus ou moins au hasard au restaurant en montrant un plat du doigt sur la carte!
Je n'aurai pas le temps...
oui, surement, les expériences diffèrent. Je n'ai pas la longue expérience que vous avez de ces pays, apparemment. petits séjours de touristes lambda 😉 mais c'est vrai que j'avais été très étonnée. le hasard ...
je suis d'accord avec vous pour dire de ne pas se priver d'un voyage au motif de la langue. d'abord parce qu'un voyage c'est aussi se laisser désarçonner, bousculer, par une culture, une langue aussi, différente. De l'étonnement nait la curiosité et de la curiosité nait la compréhension. Ensuite parce que, comme vous le dites, les aides à la traduction sont nombreuses.j'utilise aussi un traducteur que j'enregistre sur mon smartphone, c'est simple et très pratique. Pour la vie quotidienne c'est très chouette.
🙂
je suis d'accord avec vous pour dire de ne pas se priver d'un voyage au motif de la langue. d'abord parce qu'un voyage c'est aussi se laisser désarçonner, bousculer, par une culture, une langue aussi, différente. De l'étonnement nait la curiosité et de la curiosité nait la compréhension. Ensuite parce que, comme vous le dites, les aides à la traduction sont nombreuses.j'utilise aussi un traducteur que j'enregistre sur mon smartphone, c'est simple et très pratique. Pour la vie quotidienne c'est très chouette.
🙂
Je ne prétend pas du tout avoir une expérience encyclopédique de ces pays.....loin d'en être une spécialiste , mais surtout en Tchéquie nous avons passablement circulé en dehors de Prague.
Pour le smartphone, j'ai même trouvé que cela ouvrait des contacts: par exemple, dans les pays baltes, quand nous tâchions de comprendre ce qu'étaient certains produits dans les supermarchés, des gens sont venus vers nous pour nous proposer leur aide, occasion de parler un peu avec les gens du pays.....moments sympathiques.
Pour le smartphone, j'ai même trouvé que cela ouvrait des contacts: par exemple, dans les pays baltes, quand nous tâchions de comprendre ce qu'étaient certains produits dans les supermarchés, des gens sont venus vers nous pour nous proposer leur aide, occasion de parler un peu avec les gens du pays.....moments sympathiques.
Je n'aurai pas le temps...
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Having gotten a bit older, I’ve no intention of rushing—no need to speed ahead of the music! 😄
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Theth is deeply nestled in the mountains. The village at the end of the valley, which is a dead end, has lots of hotels, but they’re pricey. Other hostels are scattered along the mountainside road, but it’s a steep climb down to the village or to the start of the two easy hikes (waterfalls and the Blue Eye). For us, it was a one-hour descent (and ascent!). It’s fine if you have a car; otherwise, keep an eye out for a taxi (cheap) or try hitchhiking—it works really well. Access from Shkoder to Theth is through an agency. The road is in great condition, and you can also rent a car for 2-3 days in Shkoder. If we did it again, that’s the option we’d choose.
We didn’t do the trek and returned to Shkoder each time. I can’t speak to its difficulty, but we were there in late May, and even experienced hikers had given up because of heavy rain and snow.
Hope this helps! It’s a stunning region you shouldn’t miss.
A good starting point is Shkoder, a really pleasant city. You can easily explore Shkoder itself in a day or two.
Two accessible spots: Valbona and Theth. In both cases, local travel agencies in Shkoder or online offer round-trip or one-way access packages. Super handy, especially for Valbona.
Valbona and Theth are both very steep! There aren’t many easy hikes for less sporty folks (like me!).
Valbona: The highlight is the amazing 2.5-hour boat ride across Lake Koman. There are day trips from Shkoder, but you’ll only get a short tour of the lake. The best option is to do the full crossing—so spend a night in Valbona (or two if you want to hike in the valley) and return.
Theth is deeply nestled in the mountains. The village at the end of the valley, which is a dead end, has lots of hotels, but they’re pricey. Other hostels are scattered along the mountainside road, but it’s a steep climb down to the village or to the start of the two easy hikes (waterfalls and the Blue Eye). For us, it was a one-hour descent (and ascent!). It’s fine if you have a car; otherwise, keep an eye out for a taxi (cheap) or try hitchhiking—it works really well. Access from Shkoder to Theth is through an agency. The road is in great condition, and you can also rent a car for 2-3 days in Shkoder. If we did it again, that’s the option we’d choose.
We didn’t do the trek and returned to Shkoder each time. I can’t speak to its difficulty, but we were there in late May, and even experienced hikers had given up because of heavy rain and snow.
Hope this helps! It’s a stunning region you shouldn’t miss.
We’re a Canadian couple, both 77, and we’re already planning our vacation for fall 2027.
Timeframe: mid-September to mid-October... dates are flexible, and we might stay even longer.
Initially, I had planned this itinerary:
Athens (3), Naxos (4), Paros (4), Santorini (4), then a flight to Istanbul (7–10 days!!). This would let us maximize our flights and experience another culture.
That’s a lot of ferries, though... I’ve already cut out Milos.
Our second option would be to stay 2 x 15 days on two different islands, but I’d still keep Istanbul as our next destination... or maybe 30 days on one island that offers the chance to take day trips to other islands where the ferry ride is no more than 2 to 2.5 hours. For example, Naxos to Paros only takes 30 minutes. We could return the same evening or stay overnight.
Naxos seems like the best option!!!
For Istanbul, of course we want to do a day cruise on the Bosphorus and see Hagia Sophia. If we stay 6–7 days, what would be the other main attractions? Are there any points of interest we can reach by local bus?
Our second option would be to stay 2 x 15 days on two different islands, but I’d still keep Istanbul as our next destination... or maybe 30 days on one island that offers the chance to take day trips to other islands where the ferry ride is no more than 2 to 2.5 hours. For example, Naxos to Paros only takes 30 minutes. We could return the same evening or stay overnight.
Naxos seems like the best option!!!
For Istanbul, of course we want to do a day cruise on the Bosphorus and see Hagia Sophia. If we stay 6–7 days, what would be the other main attractions? Are there any points of interest we can reach by local bus?
Hi there!
We bought our tickets to Greece at the end of November 2025, and let’s just say the geopolitical climate has really taken a turn since then with the war started by the United States against Iran. Not to mention all the other conflicts happening around the world 😕... Anyway!
Our flight from Montreal is on May 1st, and I was wondering how things are currently being experienced in Greece.
We were planning to rent a car and had already booked accommodations on three Cyclades islands!!
The oil shortage is also worrying us...
If you could share some insights on this, that would be great!
Thanks!!
Thanks!!






