La honte de prendre l'avion?
by B737
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Bonsoir,
donc il vaut mieux prendre sa voiture et polluer, et aggraver le RC?
Pour faire Paris - Marseille personne ne prend plus sa voiture ; et beaucoup des habitants urbains n'en ont plus de toutes façons. A quoi bon un train imaginaire sur lequel on mettrait des véhicules ? Qu'on rompe avec le schéma en étoile, mais pour ça il faudrait revenir sur des siècles d'errements.
Michel
donc il vaut mieux prendre sa voiture et polluer, et aggraver le RC?
Pour faire Paris - Marseille personne ne prend plus sa voiture ; et beaucoup des habitants urbains n'en ont plus de toutes façons. A quoi bon un train imaginaire sur lequel on mettrait des véhicules ? Qu'on rompe avec le schéma en étoile, mais pour ça il faudrait revenir sur des siècles d'errements.
Michel
Pour faire Paris - Marseille personne ne prend plus sa voiture
Pendant les grandes vacances, les habitants de l'Île-de-France descendent quand même majoritairement en voiture sur la cote d'Azur... A Paris intra-muros seuls 30 % des habitants possèdent une voiture, mais en banlieue, le taux d'équipement est le même que dans le reste de la France : de l'ordre de 90 %.
Pendant les grandes vacances, les habitants de l'Île-de-France descendent quand même majoritairement en voiture sur la cote d'Azur... A Paris intra-muros seuls 30 % des habitants possèdent une voiture, mais en banlieue, le taux d'équipement est le même que dans le reste de la France : de l'ordre de 90 %.
Non je n'ai pas honte de prendre l'avion et de voyager (en Europe pour le moment dans mon cas), au moins c'est dit, pas d'hypocrisie.
Et je n'ai pas honte de faire régulièrement des Paris-Nice en avion. Je prenais surtout le train avant, mais depuis la suppression d'ITGV c'est devenu atrocement cher. Alors payer plus cher que l'avion pour 6h de train, toujours stresser à cause de grèves éventuelles, problèmes, etc, euh, non merci.
La SNCF est la première responsable de la baisse d'intérêt du train. Entre le coût, les grèves, retards, faut pas s'étonner. Et pendant ce temps le réseau hors grandes lignes se meure.
Au niveau européen les liaisons ne sont pas terribles, et chères. Alors si des Suédois veulent s'amuser à se taper 37h de train (ils ont le temps, c'est bien !) et payer plus cher juste pour se donner bonne conscience, ça les regarde, ma foi.
Au quotidien j'utilise en majorité mes pieds et les transports (région parisienne ou Nice quand j'y suis), quelques trajets en voiture pour les courses et quelques sorties. On a des transports alors j'en profite, même s'ils ne sont pas agréables.
Mais non, je ne renoncerai pas à mes voyages en avion (et low-cost en plus, bouh, c'est mal !).
Et je n'ai pas honte de faire régulièrement des Paris-Nice en avion. Je prenais surtout le train avant, mais depuis la suppression d'ITGV c'est devenu atrocement cher. Alors payer plus cher que l'avion pour 6h de train, toujours stresser à cause de grèves éventuelles, problèmes, etc, euh, non merci.
La SNCF est la première responsable de la baisse d'intérêt du train. Entre le coût, les grèves, retards, faut pas s'étonner. Et pendant ce temps le réseau hors grandes lignes se meure.
Au niveau européen les liaisons ne sont pas terribles, et chères. Alors si des Suédois veulent s'amuser à se taper 37h de train (ils ont le temps, c'est bien !) et payer plus cher juste pour se donner bonne conscience, ça les regarde, ma foi.
Au quotidien j'utilise en majorité mes pieds et les transports (région parisienne ou Nice quand j'y suis), quelques trajets en voiture pour les courses et quelques sorties. On a des transports alors j'en profite, même s'ils ne sont pas agréables.
Mais non, je ne renoncerai pas à mes voyages en avion (et low-cost en plus, bouh, c'est mal !).
http://www.lasourisglobe-trotteuse.fr/
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l'A380 a été arrêté avant la prise de conscience actuelle. pis c'est pas parce-qu'un projet est dans un carton qu'on peut pas le ressortir.
personnellement sans vouloir faire l'oiseau de mauvaise augure, avec la prise de conscience que l'on est en train de voir, si les concernés ne trouvent pas des solutions radicales très rapidement, le secteur va très vite se retrouver dans une situation de crise majeure
@ B737: dommage que des événements comme la 1ere guerre mondiale n'ait pas impacté votre esprit plus que ça 😕
Bonsoir, Pour faire Paris - Marseille personne ne prend plus sa voiture ; et beaucoup des habitants urbains n'en ont plus de toutes façons. A quoi bon un train imaginaire sur lequel on mettrait des véhicules ? Qu'on rompe avec le schéma en étoile, mais pour ça il faudrait revenir sur des siècles d'errements.
Michel
Bonjour,
c'est une plaisanterie j'espère. pour avoir de la famille en Corse, et m'y rendant régulièrement je peux vous dire que des nuées de français, mais aussi Néerlandais, et Allemands prennent leur voiture pour descendre en Méditerranée. J'ai vécu dans le sud-est, et les autoroutes du sud sont archi bondées en été. pas que dans le sud-est d'ailleurs
@ Miranda: ouais c'est ce que je disais aussi. pis au bout d'un moment tu peux fuir 😐
@ B737: dommage que des événements comme la 1ere guerre mondiale n'ait pas impacté votre esprit plus que ça 😕
Bonsoir, Pour faire Paris - Marseille personne ne prend plus sa voiture ; et beaucoup des habitants urbains n'en ont plus de toutes façons. A quoi bon un train imaginaire sur lequel on mettrait des véhicules ? Qu'on rompe avec le schéma en étoile, mais pour ça il faudrait revenir sur des siècles d'errements.
Michel
Bonjour,
c'est une plaisanterie j'espère. pour avoir de la famille en Corse, et m'y rendant régulièrement je peux vous dire que des nuées de français, mais aussi Néerlandais, et Allemands prennent leur voiture pour descendre en Méditerranée. J'ai vécu dans le sud-est, et les autoroutes du sud sont archi bondées en été. pas que dans le sud-est d'ailleurs
@ Miranda: ouais c'est ce que je disais aussi. pis au bout d'un moment tu peux fuir 😐
bonjour les problèmes de l' A380 tout le monde les connaît :
*problème pour qu'il stationne dans les aéroports donc il faut des infrastructures adaptées
*4 moteurs à la place de 2 comme sur un B777 donc ça fait de la maintenance mécanique donc des coûts en plus
*qu'en est-il du remplissage ?
l'A380 a été arrêté avant la prise de conscience actuelle.
La décision a été prise cette année, en 2019...
personnellement sans vouloir faire l'oiseau de mauvaise augure, avec la prise de conscience que l'on est en train de voir, si les concernés ne trouvent pas des solutions radicales très rapidement, le secteur va très vite se retrouver dans une situation de crise majeure
Non, au contraire, les perspectives du développement du trafic aérien laissent à penser que les constructeurs d'avions ont de très beaux jours devant eux. Encore une fois, il ne faut pas penser que la "prise de conscience" de quelques pseudo-écolos va inverser la tendance ...
La décision a été prise cette année, en 2019...
personnellement sans vouloir faire l'oiseau de mauvaise augure, avec la prise de conscience que l'on est en train de voir, si les concernés ne trouvent pas des solutions radicales très rapidement, le secteur va très vite se retrouver dans une situation de crise majeure
Non, au contraire, les perspectives du développement du trafic aérien laissent à penser que les constructeurs d'avions ont de très beaux jours devant eux. Encore une fois, il ne faut pas penser que la "prise de conscience" de quelques pseudo-écolos va inverser la tendance ...
@réponse générale
la honte de prendre l'avion la honte de manger de la viande (ou du lait ou ...) la honte de ne pas toujours"acheter français" la honte de faire des enfants (la planète et la surpopulation) la honte de mettre son gosse à l'école privée la honte de dire niet aux médecines douces j'en passe .....
que de honte que de honte, je me noie dans la honte. les injonctions au "vivre correct" m'emmerdent profondément.
la honte de prendre l'avion la honte de manger de la viande (ou du lait ou ...) la honte de ne pas toujours"acheter français" la honte de faire des enfants (la planète et la surpopulation) la honte de mettre son gosse à l'école privée la honte de dire niet aux médecines douces j'en passe .....
que de honte que de honte, je me noie dans la honte. les injonctions au "vivre correct" m'emmerdent profondément.
Que de problèmes Bobo! Vite un Xanax!
le kérosène d'une je ne vois pas pourquoi il devrait être avantagé. ça n'est pas juste. ce qui est le cas au jour d'aujourd'hui. et de 2 il est très polluant. donc si on veut être logique si tu taxes à mort le diesel, faut faire de même pour le kérosene
@ Kujila: je pensais pareil . mais tu cherches à droite à gauche. tu vois vite que un vol long courrier équivaut environ à une conso annuelle totale d'un être humain. ça fait donc beaucoup. personnellement je pense que c'est pas tellement l'Homme qui pollue beaucoup. c'est plus beaucoup d'Hommes qui pollue en même temps. c'est pas pareil. Mais toujours est-il qu'avec le RC, on peut pas faire l'aveugle. l'avion pollue, c'est un fait 😕 😕. Si tu savais à quel point ça me fait ch.. de plus pouvoir prendre l'avion 😠
@ Cambrousse: ben c'est des années de consommation à tout va sans jamais se soucier de si c'est bien, ou mal. et voilà, maintenant on récolte. on apprend à nos dépend que tout geste de consommateur à une incidence 😕
@ Kujila: je pensais pareil . mais tu cherches à droite à gauche. tu vois vite que un vol long courrier équivaut environ à une conso annuelle totale d'un être humain. ça fait donc beaucoup. personnellement je pense que c'est pas tellement l'Homme qui pollue beaucoup. c'est plus beaucoup d'Hommes qui pollue en même temps. c'est pas pareil. Mais toujours est-il qu'avec le RC, on peut pas faire l'aveugle. l'avion pollue, c'est un fait 😕 😕. Si tu savais à quel point ça me fait ch.. de plus pouvoir prendre l'avion 😠
@ Cambrousse: ben c'est des années de consommation à tout va sans jamais se soucier de si c'est bien, ou mal. et voilà, maintenant on récolte. on apprend à nos dépend que tout geste de consommateur à une incidence 😕
Pas du tout honte de ne pas avoir honte. 😉
Individualiste... Tu ne me connais pas.
Oui ca devient des injonctions.
Oui ca devient des injonctions.
Non non vous faites erreur.
Encore faudrait il que j ai consomme "a tout va" ...
Je ne me sens pas solidaire des consommateurs a tout va et des pollueurs en tout genre.
Qu il vivent leurs mauvaise conscience sans enquiquiner les autres. Ne prenez plus l avion mais n en faites pas une doxa.
Je ne parle pas de toi Cambrousse. Je dis en général.
Il suffis de dire "je n'ai pas de voiture", "je ne mange pas de viande", "je ne prends pas l'avion", pour qu'on prenne ça pour une agression, et que dans la conversation suivante, la personne se considérant comme agressée répète "ouai, y'en a marre de ces écolos qui veulent nous empêcher de vivre etc...". Je n'ai jamais compris ça. Moi je mange de la viande, j'adore ça, mais j'ai une grande admiration pour les végétariens qui le sont dans une optique écologique ou de respect des animaux. Les gens qui pensent d'abord à au delà d'eux même.
Après quelques décennies de glorification de l'individu, que des gens pensent d'abord à leurs responsabilités, ça me rassure beaucoup. J'aime bien une certaine nouvelle génération pour ça... on peut toujours se moquer d'eux, mais ça me rassure sur l'humanité.
Il suffis de dire "je n'ai pas de voiture", "je ne mange pas de viande", "je ne prends pas l'avion", pour qu'on prenne ça pour une agression, et que dans la conversation suivante, la personne se considérant comme agressée répète "ouai, y'en a marre de ces écolos qui veulent nous empêcher de vivre etc...". Je n'ai jamais compris ça. Moi je mange de la viande, j'adore ça, mais j'ai une grande admiration pour les végétariens qui le sont dans une optique écologique ou de respect des animaux. Les gens qui pensent d'abord à au delà d'eux même.
Après quelques décennies de glorification de l'individu, que des gens pensent d'abord à leurs responsabilités, ça me rassure beaucoup. J'aime bien une certaine nouvelle génération pour ça... on peut toujours se moquer d'eux, mais ça me rassure sur l'humanité.
C'est décidé, on ne prend plus l'avion: On fait quoi du kérosène qui vient avec la distillation du brut? C'est aussi appelé "pétrole lampant" mais on a plus de lampes à pétrole. On peut le brûler dans des centrales thermiques. Il se retrouvera encore dans l'atmosphère. Conclusion: On peut prendre l'avion sans honte, par cela on débarrasse la communauté d'un sous produit encombrant.
"Après quelques décennies de glorification de l'individu, que des gens pensent d'abord à leurs responsabilités"
"les gens" qui sont "les gens" ? qui glorifient ? pour qui roule ce système ? qui doit prendre ses responsabilités ?
ça me fait rire ... 😉 ou pleurer 🙁
"les gens" qui sont "les gens" ? qui glorifient ? pour qui roule ce système ? qui doit prendre ses responsabilités ?
ça me fait rire ... 😉 ou pleurer 🙁
"Après quelques décennies de glorification de l'individu, que des gens pensent d'abord à leurs responsabilités"
"les gens" qui sont "les gens" ? qui glorifient ? pour qui roule ce système ? qui doit prendre ses responsabilités ?
ça me fait rire ... 😉 ou pleurer 🙁
Je n'ai pas dit "les gens", j'ai dit "des gens", comment dire autrement ?
Tu peux penser que tous les problèmes de la terre sont entièrement de l'unique responsabilité de Macron, des riches etc.... Mais en admettant que ce soit le cas, , tu préfères transférer les responsabilités à des responsables plus "gentils", ou considérer que le peuple est aussi susceptible d'avoir des responsabilités ? Alors les végétariens qui considèrent que c'est mieux pour l'environnement et les animaux de ne pas manger de viande, tu penses qu'ils sont cons, parce que ce n'est pas à eux que revient la responsabilité de l'avenir de la planète ?
Je ne comprends pas trop ton raisonnement.
"les gens" qui sont "les gens" ? qui glorifient ? pour qui roule ce système ? qui doit prendre ses responsabilités ?
ça me fait rire ... 😉 ou pleurer 🙁
Je n'ai pas dit "les gens", j'ai dit "des gens", comment dire autrement ?
Tu peux penser que tous les problèmes de la terre sont entièrement de l'unique responsabilité de Macron, des riches etc.... Mais en admettant que ce soit le cas, , tu préfères transférer les responsabilités à des responsables plus "gentils", ou considérer que le peuple est aussi susceptible d'avoir des responsabilités ? Alors les végétariens qui considèrent que c'est mieux pour l'environnement et les animaux de ne pas manger de viande, tu penses qu'ils sont cons, parce que ce n'est pas à eux que revient la responsabilité de l'avenir de la planète ?
Je ne comprends pas trop ton raisonnement.
On fait quoi du kérosène qui vient avec la distillation du brut?
Cher Mr Zorba, faut pas s'inquièter un jour de production d'hydrocabures dont de kérosène c'est très vite parti en consommation. A moins que les producteurs et les rafineries stockent en grande quantité... mais en général dans le commerce on évite de trop stocker ce qui est consommable 🙂
Les producteurs de pétrole et d'hydrocarbures, les rafineries décident d'arrêter net la production, je dirais qu'à la louche on en a pour une, deux semaine de consommation mondiale..
Cher Mr Zorba, faut pas s'inquièter un jour de production d'hydrocabures dont de kérosène c'est très vite parti en consommation. A moins que les producteurs et les rafineries stockent en grande quantité... mais en général dans le commerce on évite de trop stocker ce qui est consommable 🙂
Les producteurs de pétrole et d'hydrocarbures, les rafineries décident d'arrêter net la production, je dirais qu'à la louche on en a pour une, deux semaine de consommation mondiale..
l'avion pollue, c'est un fait 😕 😕. Si tu savais à quel point ça me fait ch.. de plus pouvoir prendre l'avion 😠
Tu peux toujours, c'est toi qui te l'interdit...
Perso, je trouve qu'il y a assez de contraintes dans la vie pour s'en imposer de supplémentaires. Je prends l'avion comme bon me semble si mon voyage le nécessite ou le justifie.
Tous les moyens de locomotion polluent.
on apprend à nos dépend que tout geste de consommateur à une incidence 😕
Si tu n'en prends conscience que maintenant, c'est que tu as été bien déconnecté toute ta vie jusqu'à maintenant 🤪...
Tu peux toujours, c'est toi qui te l'interdit...
Perso, je trouve qu'il y a assez de contraintes dans la vie pour s'en imposer de supplémentaires. Je prends l'avion comme bon me semble si mon voyage le nécessite ou le justifie.
Tous les moyens de locomotion polluent.
on apprend à nos dépend que tout geste de consommateur à une incidence 😕
Si tu n'en prends conscience que maintenant, c'est que tu as été bien déconnecté toute ta vie jusqu'à maintenant 🤪...
Pareil. Il y a déjà tellement de contraintes que non je vais pas m'empêcher de prendre l'avion.
Pour sauver la planète il faudrait ne plus sortir de chez soi ne plus prendre de douche manger uniquement local et bio ne plus acheter de vêtements etc
Un peu compliqué quand même.
Puis nous sommes tous sur nos ordinateurs ou tel à utiliser des serveurs qui polluent alors passons nous d'Internet tant qu'à faire !
Pour sauver la planète il faudrait ne plus sortir de chez soi ne plus prendre de douche manger uniquement local et bio ne plus acheter de vêtements etc
Un peu compliqué quand même.
Puis nous sommes tous sur nos ordinateurs ou tel à utiliser des serveurs qui polluent alors passons nous d'Internet tant qu'à faire !
http://www.lasourisglobe-trotteuse.fr/
Des milliers de photos et plein de conseils d'une souris pour voyager low-cost en Europe et hors des sentiers battus
Des milliers de photos et plein de conseils d'une souris pour voyager low-cost en Europe et hors des sentiers battus
Pareil. Il y a déjà tellement de contraintes que non je vais pas m'empêcher de prendre l'avion.
Pour sauver la planète il faudrait ne plus sortir de chez soi ne plus prendre de douche manger uniquement local et bio ne plus acheter de vêtements etc
Un peu compliqué quand même.
Puis nous sommes tous sur nos ordinateurs ou tel à utiliser des serveurs qui polluent alors passons nous d'Internet tant qu'à faire !
Bonjour la souris, " que lis je" se passer d'internet, surtout pas, mais qu'est ce qu'on va faire, plus d'avion, plus de tout quoi, autant demander une piqûre tout de suite et tout sera réglé. là, ce ne sont plus les romains qui sont fous, mais les écolos.😠
Pour sauver la planète il faudrait ne plus sortir de chez soi ne plus prendre de douche manger uniquement local et bio ne plus acheter de vêtements etc
Un peu compliqué quand même.
Puis nous sommes tous sur nos ordinateurs ou tel à utiliser des serveurs qui polluent alors passons nous d'Internet tant qu'à faire !
Bonjour la souris, " que lis je" se passer d'internet, surtout pas, mais qu'est ce qu'on va faire, plus d'avion, plus de tout quoi, autant demander une piqûre tout de suite et tout sera réglé. là, ce ne sont plus les romains qui sont fous, mais les écolos.😠
louxor71
Ha le delice des soirées sans tv ni cine ni internet devant une bouillie d avoine et a la lueur d une bougie... Et.. Chez soi bien sur.
Je blague
Ah oui, si c'est pour en revenir là, qu'on m'achève de suite !
Enfin, de temps en temps une journée "non connectée" ça peut être pas mal. Suite à une panne d'Internet il y a quelques temps j'ai passé quelques jours à faire autre chose et ça ne m'a pas manqué, mais bon, 4 jours quoi 😛
Et une vie sans voyage, malheur !! Piquez moi de suite !! 😄
Enfin, de temps en temps une journée "non connectée" ça peut être pas mal. Suite à une panne d'Internet il y a quelques temps j'ai passé quelques jours à faire autre chose et ça ne m'a pas manqué, mais bon, 4 jours quoi 😛
Et une vie sans voyage, malheur !! Piquez moi de suite !! 😄
http://www.lasourisglobe-trotteuse.fr/
Des milliers de photos et plein de conseils d'une souris pour voyager low-cost en Europe et hors des sentiers battus
Des milliers de photos et plein de conseils d'une souris pour voyager low-cost en Europe et hors des sentiers battus
Bonjour,
Dans le coin, il devait y avoir, des éoliennes, les écolos ont dit non, ça va dénaturer le paysage. Lors de réunions d'informations, ils étaient contre tout, le nucléaire, le charbon tout y est passé, sauf que quand il y a une panne de courant, ils sont les premiers à "gueuler", on leur a demandé, vous voulez quoi alors, ils ne savent pas. Ils n'ont qu'à faire comme la pub qu'on voyait à la télé il n' y a pas si longtemps, le gars qui pédalait sur son vélo pour faire marcher sa télé. Bon, j'admets volontiers que nous avons des habitudes de consommation à changer, mais de là à vouloir tout supprimer, il ne faut quand même pas exagérer. Bon, sur ce, j'ai 3 lampes à pétrole en parfait état de fonctionnement, ben non, je vais polluer. Vous avez raison revenons aux bougies, en même temps, à la veillée, on chantera et on cassera des noix. J'essaie le plus possible de faire attention à tout. Je pense que vous aussi, je vous lis souvent, mais je me demande si ceux qui tiennent les propos les plus irréductibles depuis la création de cette discussion en font autant ?
Dans le coin, il devait y avoir, des éoliennes, les écolos ont dit non, ça va dénaturer le paysage. Lors de réunions d'informations, ils étaient contre tout, le nucléaire, le charbon tout y est passé, sauf que quand il y a une panne de courant, ils sont les premiers à "gueuler", on leur a demandé, vous voulez quoi alors, ils ne savent pas. Ils n'ont qu'à faire comme la pub qu'on voyait à la télé il n' y a pas si longtemps, le gars qui pédalait sur son vélo pour faire marcher sa télé. Bon, j'admets volontiers que nous avons des habitudes de consommation à changer, mais de là à vouloir tout supprimer, il ne faut quand même pas exagérer. Bon, sur ce, j'ai 3 lampes à pétrole en parfait état de fonctionnement, ben non, je vais polluer. Vous avez raison revenons aux bougies, en même temps, à la veillée, on chantera et on cassera des noix. J'essaie le plus possible de faire attention à tout. Je pense que vous aussi, je vous lis souvent, mais je me demande si ceux qui tiennent les propos les plus irréductibles depuis la création de cette discussion en font autant ?
louxor71
une journée sans internet, je veux bien, mais une tout petite journée alors. Le numérique nous envahit, mais en même temps on n'a pas choisi non plus, et une journée ou plus sans internet, ça peut être lourd de conséquences pour tout le monde, je parle là en cas de panne, il reste bien sûr la possibilité de se déconnecter volontairement, je n'ai pas encore essayé et n'en vois pas le besoin, je ne suis pas addict non plus. Quand je pars, je dois pouvoir joindre ma famille.
louxor71
Bien sur que je fais attention a plein de choses. Ce que je trouve gavant ce sont ces perpetuelles lecons de morale ecolo , vegan, de civisme a tt propos, toujours a l usage des memes.
Entre les vaches qui petent et le kerosene des avions je sature.
Que ceux qui professent ces lecons commencent a se les appliquer a eux memes.
Bonsoir,
Les années que nous vivons sont puritaines, moralistes et religieuses ; nous pensions que le tournant des années 2000 était passé, mais le discours millénariste est venu un peu plus tard que prévu.
Michel
Les années que nous vivons sont puritaines, moralistes et religieuses ; nous pensions que le tournant des années 2000 était passé, mais le discours millénariste est venu un peu plus tard que prévu.
Michel
oui, c'est lourdingue ...
et c'est tout de suite l'anathème : pas responsable, pas consciente, individualiste.... sauf qu'on adore plus les mêmes dieux.
hihihi. Je vous lis tous je me vois il y a quelques semaines. marre des démagos, l'avion pollue pas, c'est pas ma faute.. lol. ben si les amis c'est dur, mais c'est comme ça. l'avion pollue 😐. il existe peut-être une solution tu pars pas tous les ans. mais tous les deux ans. et tu inclus le voyage bateau dans le temps de voyage. pour l'instant je vois que ça. mais je réfléchis dur, hihihi
hihihi. Je vous lis tous je me vois il y a quelques semaines. marre des démagos, l'avion pollue pas, c'est pas ma faute.. lol. ben si les amis c'est dur, mais c'est comme ça. l'avion pollue 😐. il existe peut-être une solution tu pars pas tous les ans. mais tous les deux ans. et tu inclus le voyage bateau dans le temps de voyage. pour l'instant je vois que ça. mais je réfléchis dur, hihihi
Je pars quand je veux. Et je n'ai pas de compte à te rendre. 😛
Michel
Je pars quand je veux. Et je n'ai pas de compte à te rendre. 😛
Michel
hihihi. Je vous lis tous je me vois il y a quelques semaines. marre des démagos, l'avion pollue pas, c'est pas ma faute.. lol. ben si les amis c'est dur, mais c'est comme ça. l'avion pollue 😐. il existe peut-être une solution tu pars pas tous les ans. mais tous les deux ans. et tu inclus le voyage bateau dans le temps de voyage. pour l'instant je vois que ça. mais je réfléchis dur, hihihi
Le jour où on aura besoin d'une solution à tous ces " maux " on vous fera signe.
Merci pour le tuyau commencez par l'appliquer, on verra après.
Que c'est beau les théories.
Le jour où on aura besoin d'une solution à tous ces " maux " on vous fera signe.
Merci pour le tuyau commencez par l'appliquer, on verra après.
Que c'est beau les théories.
louxor71
d'une je vous ai cité, parce-que je suis obligé
et de deux oui vous partez quand vous voulez. mais n'oubliez pas qu'on ne peut pas laisser sa conscience derrière. euh.. pourquoi je dis ça moi 🤪 😄
edit: n'oubliez pas que le but du topic est de trouver des solutions pour voyager propre. Je répond par politesse. mais ce que vous faites de votre vie, je m'en contrefous, ça ne regarde que vous 😉
edit: n'oubliez pas que le but du topic est de trouver des solutions pour voyager propre. Je répond par politesse. mais ce que vous faites de votre vie, je m'en contrefous, ça ne regarde que vous 😉
je vois bien l'équipe à Macron prendre le bateau pour aller à un G7 .... et celle de Trump venir ce printemps en Normandie à bord d'une frégate de l'US navy. Castaner prendre un vélo pour venir voir ses troupes au lieu de débarquer d'un hélico et les "puissants" de ce monde faire une cop 24 en visio-conférence....
et .... mon bon père, cessez de vous préoccuper de nos consciences, on est pas dans un confessional.😉
et .... mon bon père, cessez de vous préoccuper de nos consciences, on est pas dans un confessional.😉
d'une je vous ai cité, parce-que je suis obligé
et de deux oui vous partez quand vous voulez. mais n'oubliez pas qu'on ne peut pas laisser sa conscience derrière. euh.. pourquoi je dis ça moi 🤪 😄
Je ne pense pas avoir de problème de conscience à ce sujet. Merci de votre sollicitude, et bons vols.
Michel
Je ne pense pas avoir de problème de conscience à ce sujet. Merci de votre sollicitude, et bons vols.
Michel
J'ajoute que je m'interroge sur les véritables offensives de propagandes de la presse française, en particulier la pression régionale, qui ne cesse de publier des articles délibérément alarmistes, catastrophistes.
Quels intérêts poursuit la presse française ?
(Qui soit dit en passant est très uniforme et consensuelle dans son propos).
Michel
je vois bien l'équipe à Macron prendre le bateau pour aller à un G7 .... et celle de Trump venir ce printemps en Normandie à bord d'une frégate de l'US navy. Castaner prendre un vélo pour venir voir ses troupes au lieu de débarquer d'un hélico et les "puissants" de ce monde faire une cop 24 en visio-conférence....
et .... mon bon père, cessez de vous préoccuper de nos consciences, on est pas dans un confessional.😉
Michel
je vois bien l'équipe à Macron prendre le bateau pour aller à un G7 .... et celle de Trump venir ce printemps en Normandie à bord d'une frégate de l'US navy. Castaner prendre un vélo pour venir voir ses troupes au lieu de débarquer d'un hélico et les "puissants" de ce monde faire une cop 24 en visio-conférence....
et .... mon bon père, cessez de vous préoccuper de nos consciences, on est pas dans un confessional.😉
Je ne sais pas trop. J ai aussi des interrogations qui peuvent etre traitees de "millenaristes". Pourquoi pas.-
Mais la dessus si tout cela s averait vrai ce ne sera pas de mon point de vue nos autorestrictions a vivre qui seront determinantes face a l inertie du monde economique et politique generateur de ces modes de vie, de transport, de consommation etc...
Enfin ce n est pas mon credo.
Si ca amuse certains grand bien leurs fasse.
Je vous lis tous je me vois il y a quelques semaines. marre des démagos, l'avion pollue pas, c'est pas ma faute.. lol. ben si les amis c'est dur, mais c'est comme ça. l'avion pollue 😐.
Il n'y a que quelques semaines que tu sais que les avions polluent 😄 ? On le sait depuis que les premiers aéronefs ont été mis au point... Tu as été grave déconnecté pendant des années...
Alors ne vient pas faire ta morale maintenant et raconter aux autres ce que tu viens de découvrir ce que tout le monde sait depuis toujours...
Tous les moyens de locomotion polluent de toute façon. Après, il faut choisir celui qui est le plus adapté à son déplacement. Un Paris-Tokyo ou un Paris-San Francisco, ça se fait en avion, c'est comme ça, c'est le moyen de déplacement le plus approprié pour ces trajets...
Il n'y a que quelques semaines que tu sais que les avions polluent 😄 ? On le sait depuis que les premiers aéronefs ont été mis au point... Tu as été grave déconnecté pendant des années...
Alors ne vient pas faire ta morale maintenant et raconter aux autres ce que tu viens de découvrir ce que tout le monde sait depuis toujours...
Tous les moyens de locomotion polluent de toute façon. Après, il faut choisir celui qui est le plus adapté à son déplacement. Un Paris-Tokyo ou un Paris-San Francisco, ça se fait en avion, c'est comme ça, c'est le moyen de déplacement le plus approprié pour ces trajets...
l inertie du monde economique et politique generateur de ces modes de vie, de transport, de consommation etc...
On est d'accord que le monde capitaliste engendre toujours plus de consommation, de déplacements etc...
Mais de là à dire qu'il nous y oblige, comme si on avait un flingue sur la tempe, et de dire en même temps qu'on a pas à avoir de problèmes de consciences à vivre ainsi, pour moi ce discours (que tu n'es pas la seule à avoir hein...je ne t'accuse pas) est totalement confus et plein de contradictions.
On est d'accord que le monde capitaliste engendre toujours plus de consommation, de déplacements etc...
Mais de là à dire qu'il nous y oblige, comme si on avait un flingue sur la tempe, et de dire en même temps qu'on a pas à avoir de problèmes de consciences à vivre ainsi, pour moi ce discours (que tu n'es pas la seule à avoir hein...je ne t'accuse pas) est totalement confus et plein de contradictions.
On note une grande sérénité chez les pro avions. genre on démarre pas au quart de tour 😏
et encore une fois, je répond à personne en particulier. Je quote, parce-que j'ai pas le choix. maintenant si c'est pour autre chose qu'un débat constructif, oubliez moi. Ce que vous faites de votre corps je m'en tamponne. Merci
ton propos dilue la responsabilité, c'est tout.
dans ma vie quotidienne, je fais le max de ce que je peux faire pour vivre "propre", mais oui, il y a des choses dont je ne priverais pas.
je n'emploierais pas mon énergie à essayer de résoudre la quadrature du cercle.
le débat constructif : c'est quand on est ok avec toi et qu'on parle pendant 107 ans des vices et vertus du kérosène ? 😉
Bien sur que je fais attention a plein de choses. Ce que je trouve gavant ce sont ces perpetuelles lecons de morale ecolo , vegan, de civisme a tt propos, toujours a l usage des memes.
Entre les vaches qui petent et le kerosene des avions je sature.
Que ceux qui professent ces lecons commencent a se les appliquer a eux memes.
😎
😎
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Des milliers de photos et plein de conseils d'une souris pour voyager low-cost en Europe et hors des sentiers battus
Des milliers de photos et plein de conseils d'une souris pour voyager low-cost en Europe et hors des sentiers battus
hihihi. Je vous lis tous je me vois il y a quelques semaines. marre des démagos, l'avion pollue pas, c'est pas ma faute.. lol. ben si les amis c'est dur, mais c'est comme ça. l'avion pollue 😐. il existe peut-être une solution tu pars pas tous les ans. mais tous les deux ans. et tu inclus le voyage bateau dans le temps de voyage. pour l'instant je vois que ça. mais je réfléchis dur, hihihi
Je pars quand je veux. Et je n'ai pas de compte à te rendre. 😛
Michel
Pareil !
Tous les deux ans... déjà que deux mois sans voyager c'est dur pour moi... 😛
Je pars quand je veux. Et je n'ai pas de compte à te rendre. 😛
Michel
Pareil !
Tous les deux ans... déjà que deux mois sans voyager c'est dur pour moi... 😛
http://www.lasourisglobe-trotteuse.fr/
Des milliers de photos et plein de conseils d'une souris pour voyager low-cost en Europe et hors des sentiers battus
Des milliers de photos et plein de conseils d'une souris pour voyager low-cost en Europe et hors des sentiers battus
sauf que vous faites exactement comme moi il y a pas si longtemps. allez faire un bilan carbone sur plusieurs sites différents, et on en reparle. parce-que là on brasse de l'air 😉
1 année être humain normal c'est 6t de CO² 1 année être humain normal + 1 Paris - Antilles c'est 12t de CO². donc voilà. si vous trouvez ça normal, et écolo, pas moi 😕
J'essaie de faire culpabiliser personne. Je m'en fous de ce que vous faites de votre vie. Mais moi je suis là pour essayer de trouver des façons de voyager propre. pas pour brasser de l'air 😉
1 année être humain normal c'est 6t de CO² 1 année être humain normal + 1 Paris - Antilles c'est 12t de CO². donc voilà. si vous trouvez ça normal, et écolo, pas moi 😕
J'essaie de faire culpabiliser personne. Je m'en fous de ce que vous faites de votre vie. Mais moi je suis là pour essayer de trouver des façons de voyager propre. pas pour brasser de l'air 😉
Autrefois on allait a confesse faire son examen de conscience.!
Maintenant on fait son bilan carbone..
Chaque epoque ses obsessions
sauf que vous faites exactement comme moi il y a pas si longtemps. allez faire un bilan carbone sur plusieurs sites différents, et on en reparle. parce-que là on brasse de l'air 😉
1 année être humain normal c'est 6t de CO² 1 année être humain normal + 1 Paris - Antilles c'est 12t de CO². donc voilà. si vous trouvez ça normal, et écolo, pas moi 😕
J'essaie de faire culpabiliser personne. Je m'en fous de ce que vous faites de votre vie. Mais moi je suis là pour essayer de trouver des façons de voyager propre. pas pour brasser de l'air 😉
Encore une fois, ne viens pas essayer d'expliquer aux autres ce que tu viens d'apprendre et ce que tout le monde sait depuis longtemps... Tu étais visiblement dans l'ignorance encore très récemment...
Le type qui découvre en 2019 qu'un avion peut polluer, non mais tu as vécu sur quelle planète auparavant ?
1 année être humain normal c'est 6t de CO² 1 année être humain normal + 1 Paris - Antilles c'est 12t de CO². donc voilà. si vous trouvez ça normal, et écolo, pas moi 😕
J'essaie de faire culpabiliser personne. Je m'en fous de ce que vous faites de votre vie. Mais moi je suis là pour essayer de trouver des façons de voyager propre. pas pour brasser de l'air 😉
Encore une fois, ne viens pas essayer d'expliquer aux autres ce que tu viens d'apprendre et ce que tout le monde sait depuis longtemps... Tu étais visiblement dans l'ignorance encore très récemment...
Le type qui découvre en 2019 qu'un avion peut polluer, non mais tu as vécu sur quelle planète auparavant ?
sauf que vous faites exactement comme moi il y a pas si longtemps. allez faire un bilan carbone sur plusieurs sites différents, et on en reparle. parce-que là on brasse de l'air 😉
1 année être humain normal c'est 6t de CO² 1 année être humain normal + 1 Paris - Antilles c'est 12t de CO². donc voilà. si vous trouvez ça normal, et écolo, pas moi 😕
J'essaie de faire culpabiliser personne. Je m'en fous de ce que vous faites de votre vie. Mais moi je suis là pour essayer de trouver des façons de voyager propre. pas pour brasser de l'air 😉
Cherchez bien, parce que pour l'avion électrique, c'est pas encore trop ça. et de toute façon, l'electricité n'est pas une énergie propre, contrairement à ce qu'on veut nous faire croire. Quand au recyclage des panneaux solaires, toujours pas de solution. Vous en avez peut être une.
Il y a une chose dont je suis sûr, les gens comme vous, avec leur certitudes pêchées sur n'importe quel site internet, sont des empêcheurs de tourner en rond, c'est une des raisons qui font que le monde va si mal.
1 année être humain normal c'est 6t de CO² 1 année être humain normal + 1 Paris - Antilles c'est 12t de CO². donc voilà. si vous trouvez ça normal, et écolo, pas moi 😕
J'essaie de faire culpabiliser personne. Je m'en fous de ce que vous faites de votre vie. Mais moi je suis là pour essayer de trouver des façons de voyager propre. pas pour brasser de l'air 😉
Cherchez bien, parce que pour l'avion électrique, c'est pas encore trop ça. et de toute façon, l'electricité n'est pas une énergie propre, contrairement à ce qu'on veut nous faire croire. Quand au recyclage des panneaux solaires, toujours pas de solution. Vous en avez peut être une.
Il y a une chose dont je suis sûr, les gens comme vous, avec leur certitudes pêchées sur n'importe quel site internet, sont des empêcheurs de tourner en rond, c'est une des raisons qui font que le monde va si mal.
louxor71
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Hello everyone,
It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
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...
It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

...
I spent 3 weeks in Bali last summer (+ 3 nights on Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java). So I wanted to see what ChatGPT could suggest for comparison...
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Hello everyone,
I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
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Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

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I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
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.Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

...
I’ve kept the habit of blowing my nose in the sink and then washing my hands—a custom I picked up in India. Sometimes, non-travelers are shocked when they catch me in the act... 🤪
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
After taking a little trip around the world, I came back a few months ago with an idea in mind.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
As part of my Master’s thesis, I’m currently conducting a public survey on a topic that concerns all of us when planning a trip: artificial intelligence and the role of human contact in travel planning.
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
While browsing the forum to gather info for my upcoming trip to Thailand, I often see the terms "traveler," "great traveler," and also "tourist"—so what’s the nuance for you?
I've traveled quite a bit in Vietnam over the past few years—from the southern delta to bustling cities and even some small islands—but what really sticks with me is the north, the high mountains.
Up there, there's something different—maybe slower, more raw. The morning markets with ethnic groups, women in traditional clothes, the colors...
The stilt houses, kids following you and laughing for no reason, the terraced rice fields—it almost feels unreal at times, so vast and quiet, yet so human and simple.
You often hear that Sapa has become too touristy, and that's partly true, especially in the center. But as soon as you move a little farther away, everything changes quickly. The landscapes open up, encounters feel more natural, and you rediscover something truly authentic.
I think it's that contrast that struck me—the difference between what you imagine before going and what you actually discover when you take the time.
And you—what memory do you hold onto from Vietnam? A particular place that touched you more than others?
Hello,
We’re finalizing the plans for our upcoming trip to China in May 2025. The second-to-last stop will be in Zhangjiajie, where we’ve planned to stay for 2 full days before heading to Shanghai.
We’re traveling solo using local transport and have arranged to stay in the city of Zhangjiajie.
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
Hello 🙂
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
Hi everyone, here’s our itinerary. Arriving on the evening of December 13th. Departing on January 7th.
Thanks in advance for your tips and valuable feedback.
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Really disappointed with Costa Rica! Pura vida? The scam of the century!
(Costa Rica pure emptiness).
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
Hello,
Since the war between Russia and Ukraine, nothing is simple anymore for traveling to Belarus due to sanctions.
No more direct flights from the EU to Minsk.
Driving is a huge hassle, especially crossing through Poland at the only open border in Brest—you can wait 2, 3, or even 4 days just to get through by car.
The least painful driving option is to come via Lithuania and cross at the only open border, with a minimum wait time of 8 hours, sometimes up to 20 hours or more!!
Controls are very strict and annoying on both the Lithuanian and Belarusian sides. Avoid bringing alcohol, food, or cigarettes—everything will end up in the trash, especially when leaving Belarus for Vilnius, where the Lithuanians are tough, even with EU citizens.
The joy I once knew when visiting my wife in Minsk is sadly over—it’s now a real ordeal.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
Hi everyone!
I’m putting together our travel itinerary for Veneto at the end of April. And the more I look and research potential sites to visit, the more I find!
We’ll only be there for a week—my family and I—including 3 days in Venice. So we have to make some choices...
I plan to rent a car when we arrive in Venice and head straight to Bergamo, which would be our first stop. We’d leave the car at the airport when we return to Venice so we can explore the city at our leisure.
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
Now that the curtain has fallen on the past year, it’s time to see what’s happening around here.
It seems pretty quiet, but I’ll read more in detail later.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
I’ve visited the U.S. four times myself, including two long road trips. The last one was just this past August...
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
Hi there,
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
Hello everyone,
Controversial topic? Not necessarily—maybe just a reflection on a world to come.
I spent the last 15 days of August on a cruise in Greenland, from Kangerlussuaq to Tasiilaq.
I was utterly amazed by this unique world of rock and ice, the little houses in every color, a simple life that’s also complicated by isolation and climate, among other things...
I carry in my heart the kindness of the people I met, the raw and gentle majesty of the icebergs, the colors of the sky...
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,

Hello to all East Africa lovers and nature enthusiasts in general,
While I prepare to share a recap of our latest trip/safari in Kenya soon, I’d like to wish you all a peaceful transition between 2025 and 2026.
Warm regards,
Puma2A.





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We’re a couple aged 58 and 63. We’ve just returned from a wonderful trip to South India in Tamil Nadu and a few days in Kerala. We traveled with a local French-speaking guide and his friend, the driver. They both live in Pondicherry. We spent 3 weeks with them in the most authentic way!
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like! M-Claire and Jean
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like! M-Claire and Jean
This catchy and somewhat mysterious title comes from several questions I’ve been asking myself.
VF has been back open for a reasonable number of weeks and months now. The number of visitors overall matches past averages, but the number of members online in the last 24 hours seems relatively lower than what we used to see.
Yet, to my surprise, I’m seeing fewer travel journals, way fewer messages, and way fewer questions. I don’t see many new registered users online, and I notice a number of members who are logged in but either aren’t participating or have stopped participating.
Something’s not adding up for me because, in my opinion, VF is still appealing, and I don’t see which other sites could really compete.
Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid? Does it just take more time for some people to discover the site or learn that it’s active again? Do people now prefer quick consumption on sites like FB or others I’m not familiar with? Where have the site’s old-timers gone, and what are they doing with their time now? What’s really going on here?
VF has been back open for a reasonable number of weeks and months now. The number of visitors overall matches past averages, but the number of members online in the last 24 hours seems relatively lower than what we used to see.
Yet, to my surprise, I’m seeing fewer travel journals, way fewer messages, and way fewer questions. I don’t see many new registered users online, and I notice a number of members who are logged in but either aren’t participating or have stopped participating.
Something’s not adding up for me because, in my opinion, VF is still appealing, and I don’t see which other sites could really compete.
Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid? Does it just take more time for some people to discover the site or learn that it’s active again? Do people now prefer quick consumption on sites like FB or others I’m not familiar with? Where have the site’s old-timers gone, and what are they doing with their time now? What’s really going on here?
Hi there,
This isn’t exactly a traveler’s question... I’d like to know who handles the technical side of this forum?
I run a similar forum on a different topic (unrecognized children), and we’re dealing with a few technical issues that are slowly killing our forum... so I’d have one or two questions to ask 😊.
Also, I was wondering who created this forum... who the administrators or moderators are, etc.
I think this forum is great. Much better than Facebook, which I’ve been using since it shut down (so I’m happy to see it’s working again...)
This isn’t exactly a traveler’s question... I’d like to know who handles the technical side of this forum?
I run a similar forum on a different topic (unrecognized children), and we’re dealing with a few technical issues that are slowly killing our forum... so I’d have one or two questions to ask 😊.
Also, I was wondering who created this forum... who the administrators or moderators are, etc.
I think this forum is great. Much better than Facebook, which I’ve been using since it shut down (so I’m happy to see it’s working again...)