I’ve always wondered what I was "doing" on this earth. And why my father, who died a few months after I was born—a former youngest French resistance fighter—joined the First Saharan Motorized Company in Atar and spent the rest of his life repairing army engines in Algeria, Mauritania, Senegal, Mali (which didn’t exist under that name back then), Morocco, and finally Algeria, where my mother was born and raised. (Believe me, it’s not "cool" being the child of a soldier in a country occupied by France, and even less so the child of a "pied-noir.") Of course, I never got an answer: the dead don’t talk, and the army doesn’t either. But here’s the thing—I had photos... So naturally, one day I hit the road. I wanted to see, to understand. It’s thanks to VF that I was able to do a little research on crossing the Morocco-Mauritania border, and I’m grateful to its members, just as I’m grateful to all those who welcomed me on the road for 14 years. For the past few weeks, I’ve been wondering if I should talk about this or not... It turns out the Mauritanians changed my life by asking for my help... And that started as early as February 2012... (Did I owe them something? No answer to that question.) Ah, the irony—they saw me coming. But when you’re handed sick children and begged to do something, what would you have done? I’d worked in a hospital, so I knew a bit about the rules to follow. I didn’t hesitate. And well, over all these years, I met doctors, surgeons, and together we organized care, evacuations of children, training for surgeons—even trying to stop children from having to travel outside their country. It was never easy. I’d like to thank those who supported us, as well as *La Chaîne de l’Espoir*, *La Fondation Face au Monde*, and everyone who built bridges between our two countries. Unfortunately, despite the constant efforts of Mauritanian doctors and surgeons, some children couldn’t be helped in time. Today, I want to talk about four siblings—orphans of their mother—suffering from congenital glaucoma causing irreversible blindness. Their case was entrusted to me in 2020, just weeks before the big lockdown. We couldn’t do anything for them then, but when their father asked me for a gift, I rushed to my computer and wrote a story. Through a tale, the children take a great journey, explore their country, and fulfill a dream. I never thought this book would be published—it was, in 2023. This book pays tribute to Mauritania. It’s a message for those who know nothing about the hardships of life there, carrying both the harshness and beauty of an immense desert where you can travel by 4x4, bike, on foot, or by camel in complete safety. It bears witness to the kindness of Mauritanians toward travelers. As a woman traveling alone in my vehicle—a now-rusted old Mercedes that no longer runs—I had the most beautiful encounters of my life there (I’ve seen other parts of the world...). The blind children of Choum, Atar, Nouadhibou, and Nouakchott will forever be in my heart. Volunteer readers transcribed the book into a free audio version for the visually impaired. It’s available in sound libraries in France, the *Fondation Valentin Haüy*, and the Swiss Romande library. I made my last trip to Mauritania in my old 4x4 to distribute the book everywhere, especially to its heroes and the school for the visually impaired in Nouakchott. After that, I thought it was time to close the chapter because I no longer have the means or the strength to travel. My publishers chose this title for it: *The Blue Eyes of the Desert*. This publication helped a mission of Swiss volunteer ophthalmologists come to operate on glaucomas in Mauritania. I’m thrilled because they come back every year! This adventure is ending, yes—everything must come to an end—but ultimately, it was born here, on the VF site!! So yes, I had to say it: THANK YOU!!!!!
Architectures et habitations du monde
by Archimade
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
....ça cogite même le jour! 😉
La couleur bleue a une très ancienne origine, elle représentait alors, bien avant JC du temps de la tribu des Dana, les guerriers . Il y a un très beau bouquin de Jim Fitzpatrick qui en parle, entre autre de superbes dessins et du fameux guerrier bleu: Lugh. Les guerriers alors se teintaient le visage et le corps en bleu pour se rendre plus impressionnants aux combats.
Par la suite il est donc possible que la religion chrétienne ait repris cette couleur pour mieux s'imposer, comme pour les chapelles sur les lieux des anciens cultes. Et en effet dans les chapelles la toge de Marie est souvent bleue....(Marie n'est pas la patronne des bretons😉)
Maintenant pour ce qui est des habitions, beaucoup de petites maisons de pêcheurs ont les volets et les fenêtres bleues. Là je ne sais si c'est en rapport avec la vierge(je n'avais jamais entendu parler de ça avant) ou si encore une fois la couleur des bateaux, souvent aussi de cette couleur.
On parle aussi du bleu de Plonéis qui vient en fait de la couleur des costumes, bleu entre le marine et le foncé,
Glazik = petit bleu ...le Pays Glazik ....
Et si c'était la couleur du ciel et de la mer, forces de la nature, à l'origine ???
Choucarde
Je n'avais pas pris le temps de lire le post en entier, c'est chose faite !
Au fil des pages des questions restent en suspend...
Voici quelques réponses, certainement fort incomplètes...
pour Archimade, la pagode du Pilier Unique à Hanoï (photo rephotographiée, pas de bonne qualité) pour Millebornes, oui, dans le Béarn nous avons aussi nos lépreux nommés "les cagots". Souvent, une porte, un bénitier, un confessionnal leur étaient réservés dans les églises, j'essaye de joindre un document..., d'autre part, pour toi aussi quelques photos de Tunisie avec les maisons troglodydes à flan de colline et les greniers à grain plus ou moins restaurés... A Douiret effectivement un petit hotel adorable dont les chambres ont été aménagées dans les anciennes habitations (photos 2 et 3)
Bises à tous
PS : mon fichier ne veut pas se télécharger, vous trouverez sur Google "le mystère des cagots" les cagots peuple rejeté des montagnes pyrénéennes..
pour Archimade, la pagode du Pilier Unique à Hanoï (photo rephotographiée, pas de bonne qualité) pour Millebornes, oui, dans le Béarn nous avons aussi nos lépreux nommés "les cagots". Souvent, une porte, un bénitier, un confessionnal leur étaient réservés dans les églises, j'essaye de joindre un document..., d'autre part, pour toi aussi quelques photos de Tunisie avec les maisons troglodydes à flan de colline et les greniers à grain plus ou moins restaurés... A Douiret effectivement un petit hotel adorable dont les chambres ont été aménagées dans les anciennes habitations (photos 2 et 3)
Bises à tous
PS : mon fichier ne veut pas se télécharger, vous trouverez sur Google "le mystère des cagots" les cagots peuple rejeté des montagnes pyrénéennes..
La liberté, c'est un cadeau qu'on se fait à soi-même - (L.Gauthier)
mon blog : http://lesvoyagesdemamina.blogspot.com/
mon blog : http://lesvoyagesdemamina.blogspot.com/
Le bleu pour la vierge ne semble fixé qu'à partir du XIIème siècle. Avant, elle porte un vêtement dont la couleur peut varier ... du marron, du rouge, qui devient par la suite la couleur réservée au mal.
Pour revenir à la couleur des maisons, le rouge est souvent utilisé par les marins. C'est la couleur privilégiée pour l'antifouling (sous le bateau), parce qu'elle se voit bien sur l'eau, si la coque se retourne 🙁. Sur l'île de Bréhat, dans les Côtes d'Armor, de nombreux volets sont de cette couleur. Marie.
Pour revenir à la couleur des maisons, le rouge est souvent utilisé par les marins. C'est la couleur privilégiée pour l'antifouling (sous le bateau), parce qu'elle se voit bien sur l'eau, si la coque se retourne 🙁. Sur l'île de Bréhat, dans les Côtes d'Armor, de nombreux volets sont de cette couleur. Marie.
Marie.
Il n'est rien de plus beau que l'instant qui précède le voyage.
Merci pour toutes ces précisions de bretonne à bretonne...
Oui, bien sûr que la Vierge n'est pas la patronne, mais il n'empêche qu'elle est très présente dans les pardons, sur les calvaires etc... et très aimée en Bretagne.
Pour Glazik je ne savais pas, ce n'est pas aussi le surnom d'un petit breton en costume ? (encore une fenêtre !)
Kenavo !
La liberté, c'est un cadeau qu'on se fait à soi-même - (L.Gauthier)
mon blog : http://lesvoyagesdemamina.blogspot.com/
mon blog : http://lesvoyagesdemamina.blogspot.com/
😉 Okok !! de toute façon Anna et Maria c'est la même famile 😉
Pour Glazik, je ne sais pas si c'est un petit breton en costume....les gens du Pays Glazik sont les glaziked, donc peut etre. Bon ça dévie un peu de l'architecture ....c'est entre nous d'une fenêtre à l'autre, excusez nous donc bonnes gens 😉!
Pour Millebornes oui il y avaient des maisons rouges aussi . Ce qui me fait penser à l'Abri du Marin qui lui est en rose (mais pas vu de bateau rose encore😉) !!
Pour Glazik, je ne sais pas si c'est un petit breton en costume....les gens du Pays Glazik sont les glaziked, donc peut etre. Bon ça dévie un peu de l'architecture ....c'est entre nous d'une fenêtre à l'autre, excusez nous donc bonnes gens 😉!
Pour Millebornes oui il y avaient des maisons rouges aussi . Ce qui me fait penser à l'Abri du Marin qui lui est en rose (mais pas vu de bateau rose encore😉) !!
Choucarde
Pékin. La siheyuan, maison traditionnelle à cour carrée.
En attendant un post sur la Cité Interdite, un petit tour du côté de la maison traditionnelle des vieux quartiers de Pékin. La maison traditionnelle s'organise autour d'une cour carrée, encadrée de plusieurs constructions de plein-pied. La cour est ombragée par la présence d'un ou plusieurs arbres. Le lieu est souvent agrémenté d'oiseaux en cage.
Sous l'empire, l'entrée de la demeure permet de définir l'origine de son propriétaire. Si elle possède deux bornes ( voir photo 1), elle appartient à un fonctionnaire militaire. Au-dessus de la porte, plus le nombre de poutres est élevé, plus son occupant est un personnage important ( voir photo 2).
Le porche donne accès sur un mur, qui protège la cour et l'intimité de la famille des regards extérieurs. Il permet aussi de limiter les méfaits du vent et des mauvais esprits, qui, selon la tradition, ne savent avancer qu'en ligne droite.
Aujourd'hui, à l'entrée des maisons chinoises, des papiers rouges collés de chaque côté de la porte attestent du maintien de la tradition de la fête du printemps ( photo 1).
En 2002, en vue des J.O., les travaux de modernisation de Pékin avaient commencé à sacrifier les hutong. Les familles " volontaires " voyaient leurs maisons détruites progressivement ( photo 3).
Photos argentiques scannées. Pékin.
En attendant un post sur la Cité Interdite, un petit tour du côté de la maison traditionnelle des vieux quartiers de Pékin. La maison traditionnelle s'organise autour d'une cour carrée, encadrée de plusieurs constructions de plein-pied. La cour est ombragée par la présence d'un ou plusieurs arbres. Le lieu est souvent agrémenté d'oiseaux en cage.
Sous l'empire, l'entrée de la demeure permet de définir l'origine de son propriétaire. Si elle possède deux bornes ( voir photo 1), elle appartient à un fonctionnaire militaire. Au-dessus de la porte, plus le nombre de poutres est élevé, plus son occupant est un personnage important ( voir photo 2).
Le porche donne accès sur un mur, qui protège la cour et l'intimité de la famille des regards extérieurs. Il permet aussi de limiter les méfaits du vent et des mauvais esprits, qui, selon la tradition, ne savent avancer qu'en ligne droite.
Aujourd'hui, à l'entrée des maisons chinoises, des papiers rouges collés de chaque côté de la porte attestent du maintien de la tradition de la fête du printemps ( photo 1).
En 2002, en vue des J.O., les travaux de modernisation de Pékin avaient commencé à sacrifier les hutong. Les familles " volontaires " voyaient leurs maisons détruites progressivement ( photo 3).
Photos argentiques scannées. Pékin.
Marie.
Il n'est rien de plus beau que l'instant qui précède le voyage.
Siheyuan est le nom donné aux maisons traditionnelles chinoises.
Elles s'organisent toutes selon un même plan : un jardin entouré de "pièces", le tout parfaitement isolé du monde extérieur ; en effet, aucune fenêtre ne donne sur l'extérieur. De plus, l'entrée est aménagée de sorte que le regard du visiteur ne puisse directement atteindre le cœur du siheyuan. Le jujubier est l'arbre que l'on plante, traditionnellement, dans les jardins des siheyuan.

Elles s'organisent toutes selon un même plan : un jardin entouré de "pièces", le tout parfaitement isolé du monde extérieur ; en effet, aucune fenêtre ne donne sur l'extérieur. De plus, l'entrée est aménagée de sorte que le regard du visiteur ne puisse directement atteindre le cœur du siheyuan. Le jujubier est l'arbre que l'on plante, traditionnellement, dans les jardins des siheyuan.

Je vous salue Marie, 😉
"Je suis allée à Matmata ( Tunisie), mais as-tu des photos por illustrer ces habitats ? J'en avais, mais je ne les retrouve pas. serait sympa... J'ai trouvé sur internet ! J'avais complètement oublier ces habitats si étonnants."
Après qq recherches, je n'ai pas trouvé bcp de photos sur Matmata, dans mes albums... D'anciens clichés, pris avec une boîte photographique.
1- Marhala, hôtel du Touring club tunisien.
2- Autre puits-habitation.
Au plaisir de te lire.
Michel
"Je suis allée à Matmata ( Tunisie), mais as-tu des photos por illustrer ces habitats ? J'en avais, mais je ne les retrouve pas. serait sympa... J'ai trouvé sur internet ! J'avais complètement oublier ces habitats si étonnants."
Après qq recherches, je n'ai pas trouvé bcp de photos sur Matmata, dans mes albums... D'anciens clichés, pris avec une boîte photographique.
1- Marhala, hôtel du Touring club tunisien.
2- Autre puits-habitation.
Au plaisir de te lire.
Michel
😉tu continues vers le Sud, à Tozeur, et la tu as l'oasis, la magnifique corbeille de Nefta.
Tout vient à point pour qui sait attendre
Bonjour à tous ARRAWAK
Bonjour à tous ARRAWAK
Quelques photos de Pékin, dont l'architecture se dévoile entre modernité et tradition.
Photo 1 : la gare de Pékin.
La gare de Pékin résulte d'un projet plus vaste de 1958. Construite en 7 mois, elle fait partie d'un ensemble de 10 bâtiments, édifiés pour le 10ème anniversaire de la fondation de la République Populaire de Chine. Sa facade imposante fait 218 m de long et 43 m de haut.
Photo 2 : le mausolée de Mao.
Le mausolée de Mao est commencé peu de temps après sa mort ( de 1976 à 1977). Symboliquement, les matériaux proviennent de toutes les provinces de la Chine. 70 000 personnes, volontaires, originaires de toutes les régions du pays, ont participé à sa construction. Le style est de type monumental-socialiste, comme les autres bâtiments de la place Tian an men.
Photo 3 : immeubles modernes .2002.
Photos argentiques scannées.
Photo 1 : la gare de Pékin.
La gare de Pékin résulte d'un projet plus vaste de 1958. Construite en 7 mois, elle fait partie d'un ensemble de 10 bâtiments, édifiés pour le 10ème anniversaire de la fondation de la République Populaire de Chine. Sa facade imposante fait 218 m de long et 43 m de haut.
Photo 2 : le mausolée de Mao.
Le mausolée de Mao est commencé peu de temps après sa mort ( de 1976 à 1977). Symboliquement, les matériaux proviennent de toutes les provinces de la Chine. 70 000 personnes, volontaires, originaires de toutes les régions du pays, ont participé à sa construction. Le style est de type monumental-socialiste, comme les autres bâtiments de la place Tian an men.
Photo 3 : immeubles modernes .2002.
Photos argentiques scannées.
Marie.
Il n'est rien de plus beau que l'instant qui précède le voyage.
Bonsoir Arrawak,
"😉tu continues vers le Sud, à Tozeur, et la tu as l'oasis, la magnifique corbeille de Nefta."
Par le Sud, pourquoi pas, si tu veux faire un grand détour pour aller saluer Kadhafi, à la sortie de Tripoli, tu tournes à droite au premier palmier, et cap Nord-Ouest pour la grande aventure à travers le grand erg oriental, direction Nefta...et n'oublie pas ton GPS et de la boisson. 😎😎😎
La corbeille de Nefta un petit coin de paradis qui a bcp perdu de son charme, suite aux pluies diluviennes destructrices qui l'on profondément endommagée en 1989.
Si tu cherches un Guide pour la Tunisie... C'est négociable.😉
Michel
"😉tu continues vers le Sud, à Tozeur, et la tu as l'oasis, la magnifique corbeille de Nefta."
Par le Sud, pourquoi pas, si tu veux faire un grand détour pour aller saluer Kadhafi, à la sortie de Tripoli, tu tournes à droite au premier palmier, et cap Nord-Ouest pour la grande aventure à travers le grand erg oriental, direction Nefta...et n'oublie pas ton GPS et de la boisson. 😎😎😎
La corbeille de Nefta un petit coin de paradis qui a bcp perdu de son charme, suite aux pluies diluviennes destructrices qui l'on profondément endommagée en 1989.
Si tu cherches un Guide pour la Tunisie... C'est négociable.😉
Michel
Bonjour Michel...😉
intéressantes cette forme d'habitat... Veux-tu dire que l'hôtel et les habitations sont autour du puits, ou dans le puits ??? parce que lorsqu'on voit les "ouvertures"... elles font d'avantage penser à des box qu'à des chambres ou des pièces à vivre...!!! ( ou alors il ne faut pas être claustro...🤪...)
Belle journée...
Ok, je crois avoir trouvé la réponse...

(tu nous ferais avaler n'importe quoi, toi...😏)
intéressantes cette forme d'habitat... Veux-tu dire que l'hôtel et les habitations sont autour du puits, ou dans le puits ??? parce que lorsqu'on voit les "ouvertures"... elles font d'avantage penser à des box qu'à des chambres ou des pièces à vivre...!!! ( ou alors il ne faut pas être claustro...🤪...)
Belle journée...
Ok, je crois avoir trouvé la réponse...

(tu nous ferais avaler n'importe quoi, toi...😏)Salut Archi, 🙂
Merci pour l'agrandissement.
"tu nous ferais avaler n'importe quoi, toi...😏"
Aussi incrédule que Saint Paul ?😛
Le Marhala de Nefta est un hôtel de construction récente.
Dans les années 70-80, le Touring club tunisien a aménagé qqs habitations traditionnelles en hôtels, comme dans un fondouk à Djerba, dans un habitat-puits à Matmata, dans la médina de Kairouan (actuellement fermé)...
"Veux-tu dire que l'hôtel et les habitations sont autour du puits, ou dans le puits ??? parce que lorsqu'on voit les "ouvertures"... elles font d'avantage penser à des box qu'à des chambres ou des pièces à vivre...!!! "
Chaque puits est occupé par une famille. Dans les parois de ces larges puits sont creusées différentes pièces, parfois sur plusieurs niveaux communiquant entre eux par des sortes de cheminées. Certains puits voisins communiquent par des galeries souterraines.
Dommage que la population locale a été corrompue par le touriste que ne manque pas de faire des distributions de "cacahuètes" comme s'il visitait un Zoo.
A ta disposition.😉 Bonne journée...qd même !
Michel
Merci pour l'agrandissement.
"tu nous ferais avaler n'importe quoi, toi...😏"
Aussi incrédule que Saint Paul ?😛
Le Marhala de Nefta est un hôtel de construction récente.
Dans les années 70-80, le Touring club tunisien a aménagé qqs habitations traditionnelles en hôtels, comme dans un fondouk à Djerba, dans un habitat-puits à Matmata, dans la médina de Kairouan (actuellement fermé)...
"Veux-tu dire que l'hôtel et les habitations sont autour du puits, ou dans le puits ??? parce que lorsqu'on voit les "ouvertures"... elles font d'avantage penser à des box qu'à des chambres ou des pièces à vivre...!!! "
Chaque puits est occupé par une famille. Dans les parois de ces larges puits sont creusées différentes pièces, parfois sur plusieurs niveaux communiquant entre eux par des sortes de cheminées. Certains puits voisins communiquent par des galeries souterraines.
Dommage que la population locale a été corrompue par le touriste que ne manque pas de faire des distributions de "cacahuètes" comme s'il visitait un Zoo.
A ta disposition.😉 Bonne journée...qd même !
Michel
Ces drôles d'habitats troglodytes appartiennent à la catégorie des " troglodytes de plaine ".
J'ai toujours cru que certaines populations creusaient parce qu'il y avait des collines.
Les raisons sont à chercher dans le manque de matériaux disponibles, notamment de bois. Les conditions climatiques jouent aussi, mais elles sont un facteur secondaire.
Marie.
Marie.
Il n'est rien de plus beau que l'instant qui précède le voyage.
...je croyais me souvenir que c'est St Benoit
qui ne croyait que ce qu'il voyait...??? mais bon, tout évolue tellement vite de nos jours...!!!🤪!!!
En tout cas merci pour ces précisions. Il est vrai que sur ta seconde photo, on voit personnages et animaux qui donnent manifestement l'idée d'un lieu de vie...
Encore Merci à toi et @ plus...😉
Patrice
En tout cas merci pour ces précisions. Il est vrai que sur ta seconde photo, on voit personnages et animaux qui donnent manifestement l'idée d'un lieu de vie...
Encore Merci à toi et @ plus...😉
Patrice
Fabienne
...exact...!!!😉!!!

Merci de m'avoir rafraîchi la mémoire...
Quant à St Eloi et sa célèbre remarque à Dagobert 1er...🤪??? (bon, mais là je crois qu'on sort un peu du sujet...) Alors, qui est le patron de l'architecture ...???😉??? attention... question-piège avec réponse facile...😛
Merci de m'avoir rafraîchi la mémoire...
Quant à St Eloi et sa célèbre remarque à Dagobert 1er...🤪??? (bon, mais là je crois qu'on sort un peu du sujet...) Alors, qui est le patron de l'architecture ...???😉??? attention... question-piège avec réponse facile...😛
Re...😏
"Alors, qui est le patron de l'architecture ...???😉??? attention... question-piège avec réponse facile...😛 "
Ptah pour l'Egypte pharaonique, mais pas de chance avec Saint Paul, je me suis avancé benoîtement à ce sujet et pour un ancien enfant de choeur, je me fais honte...
Michel
"Alors, qui est le patron de l'architecture ...???😉??? attention... question-piège avec réponse facile...😛 "
Ptah pour l'Egypte pharaonique, mais pas de chance avec Saint Paul, je me suis avancé benoîtement à ce sujet et pour un ancien enfant de choeur, je me fais honte...
Michel
Bonjour Marie, 🙂
Ces drôles d'habitats troglodytes appartiennent à la catégorie des " troglodytes de plaine ".
En ce qui concerne la région de Matmata, ou de l'Andalousie, il s'agit de régions montagneuses.
"J'ai toujours cru que certaines populations creusaient parce qu'il y avait des collines. Les raisons sont à chercher dans le manque de matériaux disponibles, notamment de bois. Les conditions climatiques jouent aussi, mais elles sont un facteur secondaire. "
Ces interprétations ne me paraissent en effet pas négligeables.
Toutefois, pour les exemples tunisiens, à l'arrivée des arabes, les berbères ont trouvé refuge dans les montagnes, et en Andalousie ils ont aussi dû fuir également lors de la reconquête des rois catholiques.
Michel
Ces drôles d'habitats troglodytes appartiennent à la catégorie des " troglodytes de plaine ".
En ce qui concerne la région de Matmata, ou de l'Andalousie, il s'agit de régions montagneuses.
"J'ai toujours cru que certaines populations creusaient parce qu'il y avait des collines. Les raisons sont à chercher dans le manque de matériaux disponibles, notamment de bois. Les conditions climatiques jouent aussi, mais elles sont un facteur secondaire. "
Ces interprétations ne me paraissent en effet pas négligeables.
Toutefois, pour les exemples tunisiens, à l'arrivée des arabes, les berbères ont trouvé refuge dans les montagnes, et en Andalousie ils ont aussi dû fuir également lors de la reconquête des rois catholiques.
Michel
Ptah pour l'Egypte pharaonique, mais pas de chance avec Saint Paul, je me suis avancé benoîtement à ce sujet et pour un ancien enfant de choeur, je me fais honte... Oui, mais pour l'église catholique il s'agit encore de St Thomas...( tu sais, celui qui ne croyait que...😉...)
Mais pour en revenir un peu au début de la discussion au sujet des églises troglodytiques, et après avoir fait qlq fouilles "webologiques", j'ai trouvé un site ( géographique celui-ci...) ou l'on peut voir l'un des plus beaux vestiges en la matière... ( et que personne vienne me dire que située au dessus, c'est une cheminée...hein Michel...!!!🤪😏)

Haute-Isle, Village troglodytique dans le Val d'Oise...
(et là.... pas question d'aller faire pipi derrière l'église...sauf si ce n'est pas une envie urgente...😛)
Mais pour en revenir un peu au début de la discussion au sujet des églises troglodytiques, et après avoir fait qlq fouilles "webologiques", j'ai trouvé un site ( géographique celui-ci...) ou l'on peut voir l'un des plus beaux vestiges en la matière... ( et que personne vienne me dire que située au dessus, c'est une cheminée...hein Michel...!!!🤪😏)

Haute-Isle, Village troglodytique dans le Val d'Oise...
(et là.... pas question d'aller faire pipi derrière l'église...sauf si ce n'est pas une envie urgente...😛)
Là pas question de se poser la question des cheminées... quoi que ... Clocher et autre fonction ne sont pas incompatibles....
Marie
Marie.
Il n'est rien de plus beau que l'instant qui précède le voyage.
😉Je suis allé en tunisie en 91, et j'avais un guide super sympa et marrant.
Je me souviens que le groupe à la frontière Algérienne continuait à marcher tout en parlant de choses et d'autres.
Tout d'un coup, on a entendu: STOP, si vous continuez c'est l'Algérie de l'autre côté.
et il a ajouté, car l'Algérie chez nous, c'est comme les Corses chez vous, font touit péter.
Le désert, c'est magique la première fois où l'on aperçoit les dunes de sable à l'infini. Et c'est vrai qu'il y a des mirages, sur le désert de sel, on voyait vraiment des formes étranges.
Le désert, c'est magique la première fois où l'on aperçoit les dunes de sable à l'infini. Et c'est vrai qu'il y a des mirages, sur le désert de sel, on voyait vraiment des formes étranges.
Tout vient à point pour qui sait attendre
Bonjour à tous ARRAWAK
Bonjour à tous ARRAWAK
Bonsoir Arrawak, 🙂
Effectivement, traverser la frontière algérienne s'est s'exposer à des soucis....
"Et c'est vrai qu'il y a des mirages, sur le désert de sel, on voyait vraiment des formes étranges."
Je suppose que tu veux parler du Chott el Djerid, étrange paysage lunaire. Cet immense lac salé dissimule en été, sous sa croûte de sel variant de qqs cm à qqs dizaines de cm d'épaisseur une boue liquide, ce qui présentait un risque lorsqu'on le traversait en voiture avant la construction de la route faisant la liaison Tozeur-Kebili. Mais avec cette route la traversée a bcp perdu de son charme.
Le chott el Fejej, un autre chott où tu crois voir des caravanes de dromadaires plus vraies que nature.
Bon WE.
Michel
Effectivement, traverser la frontière algérienne s'est s'exposer à des soucis....
"Et c'est vrai qu'il y a des mirages, sur le désert de sel, on voyait vraiment des formes étranges."
Je suppose que tu veux parler du Chott el Djerid, étrange paysage lunaire. Cet immense lac salé dissimule en été, sous sa croûte de sel variant de qqs cm à qqs dizaines de cm d'épaisseur une boue liquide, ce qui présentait un risque lorsqu'on le traversait en voiture avant la construction de la route faisant la liaison Tozeur-Kebili. Mais avec cette route la traversée a bcp perdu de son charme.
Le chott el Fejej, un autre chott où tu crois voir des caravanes de dromadaires plus vraies que nature.
Bon WE.
Michel
Bonjour Archi.
Première coopération pour un post.😉
L'ARCHITECTURE DE LA CITE INTERDITE ( Zijin cheng)..La Cité Interdite est un vaste quadrilatère ( 960 m X 750 m), orienté Nord-sud, comme tout monument chinois, le tout sur une superficie de 72 ha. Elle est protégée par un rempart, haut de 10 m par 3, 5 km de long et de douves de 50 m de large ( photo 1). A chaque extrémité se trouve un pavillon ( photo 2). Les murs de l'enceinte sont enduits d'une couleur pourpre, symbole de la vie et des événements heureux, mais aussi celle de l'étoile polaire, centre de l'univers selon la cosmologie chinoise. C'est ce qui lui vaut le surnom de " Cité Pourpre Interdite ".. Quatre portes en permettent l'accès. Les deux plus importantes sont la porte du Midi ( Wu men) et la porte du génie militaire, située au nord . La grande porte sud de la ville est édifiée au XVème siècle ( 1420 ). Percée de 5 portes voutées, celle du milieu est réservée à l'empereur ( photo 3). A travers l'histoire, cette pratique est répandue... porte réservée à l'empereur de Rome pour accéder au Colisée, porte de la cathédrale réservée à l'évêque. La porte est surmontée d'un édifice en bois à double toit, recouvert de tuiles vernissées. Du haut de la terrasse, les " fils du ciel " annonçent les édits devant être exécutés par les mandarins. C'est de cette même terrasse que Mao déclare la naissance de la république populaire de Chine, le 1er octobre 1949. La cité impériale est divisée en deux parties. La première, appelée cour extérieure, est consacrée à la vie publique, la seconde, appelée cout intérieure - au nord - est l'espace privé de l'empereur et de sa famille. Une enceinte les sépare. Dans la partie publique, les arbres sont bannis pour laisser l'espace dégagé. Cette situation est liée à la sécurité, afin d'éviter tout risque d'assassinat pour l'empereur. L'ensemble s'organise autour de la salle de " l'Harmonie suprême ". Cette salle, édifiée symboliquement au centre de la cité ( palais de l'harmonie Suprême), est le lieu de l'intronisation du nouvel empereur et ou se déroulent les fêtes du Nouvel An. Construit sur une terrasse à trois paliers, le palais de l'Harmonie suprême ( photo 4) s'élève à une hauteur de 37 m et comporte 55 pièces pour une surface de 2 377 m². La salle du trône est soutenue par 6 colonnes dorées et ornées de motifs en forme de dragons. Le reste du décor est composé de grues en bronze, de 4 brûle-parfums et de deux éléphants. Le trône, fabriqué sous les Ming, est laqué d'or et sculpté de 9 dragons ( photo 5). Le palais est édifié sur la plus grande cour du palais ( 200 m X 190 m), qui est pavée de briques grises ( photo 6). Au nord, se concentrent l'administration, les bureaux de l'intendance et le harem. Les appartements disposent d'eau chaude, grâce à un fourneau placé sous les bâtiments. La dimension des appartements dépend de la hiérarchie des épouses et des concubines de l'empereur. La cité possède 80 puits et un réseau d'évacuation pour les eaux usées et les eaux de pluie, qui s'écoulent dans la douve nord. A l'intérieur de la cité, 300 vasques, plaquées d'or, en bronze ou en fer servent à conserver l'eau, pour éteindre un éventuel incendie ( voir photo 7).
Un chantier digne d'un empereur. Lorsque les Mings installent leur capitale à Pékin, le prestige, mais aussi la volonté d'isoler le souverain des simples mortels conditionnent la naissance de la Cité Interdite. De 1407 à 1420, près de 200 000 ouvriers ont participé à la construction. Les pierres proviennent de la région.. En revanche, le bois est acheminé à partir du Yunnan et de Guizhou, voire du Sichuan. Le grand Canal facilite une partie du transport. Les ateliers de Pékin et de ses environs fabriquent les tuiles. Les briques, réservées au sol, sont produites par les céramistes du Shandong, en raison de la qualité de leur terre. La légende veut que la Cité Interdite compte 9 999 pièces, mais en réalité, on en dénombre ... seulement 8 886. Le chiffre 9 symbolise en effet la puissance du principe yang.
La plupart des palais de la cité impériale sont des constructions en bois de plain-pied, montés sur une terrasse en maçonnerie. Les murs sont de simples cloisons. Les toitures reposent sur les piliers et les poutres.
La codification de l'architecture chinoise ( Yingzao fashi). Compilée par l'architecte Li Jie, la codification touche les plans, la conception, et la décoration des édifices en bois. La construction répond aux normes sismiques de l'époque : absence de fondations, assemblage de tenons et mortaises. Les composants sont normalisés. Toute décoration étrangère est déconseillée. Murs, piliers, portes et encadrements de portes et de fenêtres des palais et des temples doivent être en rouge, leurs toits en jaune ; Le bleu et le vert réservés aux dessous des avants-toits et aux plafonds. Les toits sont souvent accompagnés d'un bestiaire dans le but de protéger l'édifice. Dans la Cité Interdite, des lions gardent l'entrée des palais ( photo 8 ).
Photos argentiques scannées. désolée pour la qualité.
Photo 1 : les douves et l'enceinte extérieure. Photo 2 : Pavillon d'angle du rempart. Photo 3 : Porte sud. Photo 4 : cour et palais de l'harmonie Suprême Photo 5 : un des nombreux trônes de la Cité Photo 6 : cour de la l'Harmonie suprême. Photo 7 : la cour intérieure (espace privé) et vasques réservées à l'eau en cas d'incendie.
Photo 8 : le lion imprérial, protecteur des palais.
Photo 9 : l'espace privé de l'empereur, où la verdure et les arbres sont autorisés.
Première coopération pour un post.😉
L'ARCHITECTURE DE LA CITE INTERDITE ( Zijin cheng)..La Cité Interdite est un vaste quadrilatère ( 960 m X 750 m), orienté Nord-sud, comme tout monument chinois, le tout sur une superficie de 72 ha. Elle est protégée par un rempart, haut de 10 m par 3, 5 km de long et de douves de 50 m de large ( photo 1). A chaque extrémité se trouve un pavillon ( photo 2). Les murs de l'enceinte sont enduits d'une couleur pourpre, symbole de la vie et des événements heureux, mais aussi celle de l'étoile polaire, centre de l'univers selon la cosmologie chinoise. C'est ce qui lui vaut le surnom de " Cité Pourpre Interdite ".. Quatre portes en permettent l'accès. Les deux plus importantes sont la porte du Midi ( Wu men) et la porte du génie militaire, située au nord . La grande porte sud de la ville est édifiée au XVème siècle ( 1420 ). Percée de 5 portes voutées, celle du milieu est réservée à l'empereur ( photo 3). A travers l'histoire, cette pratique est répandue... porte réservée à l'empereur de Rome pour accéder au Colisée, porte de la cathédrale réservée à l'évêque. La porte est surmontée d'un édifice en bois à double toit, recouvert de tuiles vernissées. Du haut de la terrasse, les " fils du ciel " annonçent les édits devant être exécutés par les mandarins. C'est de cette même terrasse que Mao déclare la naissance de la république populaire de Chine, le 1er octobre 1949. La cité impériale est divisée en deux parties. La première, appelée cour extérieure, est consacrée à la vie publique, la seconde, appelée cout intérieure - au nord - est l'espace privé de l'empereur et de sa famille. Une enceinte les sépare. Dans la partie publique, les arbres sont bannis pour laisser l'espace dégagé. Cette situation est liée à la sécurité, afin d'éviter tout risque d'assassinat pour l'empereur. L'ensemble s'organise autour de la salle de " l'Harmonie suprême ". Cette salle, édifiée symboliquement au centre de la cité ( palais de l'harmonie Suprême), est le lieu de l'intronisation du nouvel empereur et ou se déroulent les fêtes du Nouvel An. Construit sur une terrasse à trois paliers, le palais de l'Harmonie suprême ( photo 4) s'élève à une hauteur de 37 m et comporte 55 pièces pour une surface de 2 377 m². La salle du trône est soutenue par 6 colonnes dorées et ornées de motifs en forme de dragons. Le reste du décor est composé de grues en bronze, de 4 brûle-parfums et de deux éléphants. Le trône, fabriqué sous les Ming, est laqué d'or et sculpté de 9 dragons ( photo 5). Le palais est édifié sur la plus grande cour du palais ( 200 m X 190 m), qui est pavée de briques grises ( photo 6). Au nord, se concentrent l'administration, les bureaux de l'intendance et le harem. Les appartements disposent d'eau chaude, grâce à un fourneau placé sous les bâtiments. La dimension des appartements dépend de la hiérarchie des épouses et des concubines de l'empereur. La cité possède 80 puits et un réseau d'évacuation pour les eaux usées et les eaux de pluie, qui s'écoulent dans la douve nord. A l'intérieur de la cité, 300 vasques, plaquées d'or, en bronze ou en fer servent à conserver l'eau, pour éteindre un éventuel incendie ( voir photo 7).
Un chantier digne d'un empereur. Lorsque les Mings installent leur capitale à Pékin, le prestige, mais aussi la volonté d'isoler le souverain des simples mortels conditionnent la naissance de la Cité Interdite. De 1407 à 1420, près de 200 000 ouvriers ont participé à la construction. Les pierres proviennent de la région.. En revanche, le bois est acheminé à partir du Yunnan et de Guizhou, voire du Sichuan. Le grand Canal facilite une partie du transport. Les ateliers de Pékin et de ses environs fabriquent les tuiles. Les briques, réservées au sol, sont produites par les céramistes du Shandong, en raison de la qualité de leur terre. La légende veut que la Cité Interdite compte 9 999 pièces, mais en réalité, on en dénombre ... seulement 8 886. Le chiffre 9 symbolise en effet la puissance du principe yang.
La plupart des palais de la cité impériale sont des constructions en bois de plain-pied, montés sur une terrasse en maçonnerie. Les murs sont de simples cloisons. Les toitures reposent sur les piliers et les poutres.
La codification de l'architecture chinoise ( Yingzao fashi). Compilée par l'architecte Li Jie, la codification touche les plans, la conception, et la décoration des édifices en bois. La construction répond aux normes sismiques de l'époque : absence de fondations, assemblage de tenons et mortaises. Les composants sont normalisés. Toute décoration étrangère est déconseillée. Murs, piliers, portes et encadrements de portes et de fenêtres des palais et des temples doivent être en rouge, leurs toits en jaune ; Le bleu et le vert réservés aux dessous des avants-toits et aux plafonds. Les toits sont souvent accompagnés d'un bestiaire dans le but de protéger l'édifice. Dans la Cité Interdite, des lions gardent l'entrée des palais ( photo 8 ).
Photos argentiques scannées. désolée pour la qualité.
Photo 1 : les douves et l'enceinte extérieure. Photo 2 : Pavillon d'angle du rempart. Photo 3 : Porte sud. Photo 4 : cour et palais de l'harmonie Suprême Photo 5 : un des nombreux trônes de la Cité Photo 6 : cour de la l'Harmonie suprême. Photo 7 : la cour intérieure (espace privé) et vasques réservées à l'eau en cas d'incendie.
Photo 8 : le lion imprérial, protecteur des palais.
Photo 9 : l'espace privé de l'empereur, où la verdure et les arbres sont autorisés.
Marie.
Il n'est rien de plus beau que l'instant qui précède le voyage.
😉Oui, c'est exactement cela, l'impression de voir une caravane de dromadaires au loin.
Je ne me souviens plus, mais je crois avoir visité les maisons troglodythes à Matmata.
J'a encore quelques photos qu'il faudra que je scanne, oui, paysages lunaires d'un autre monde.
Dépaysement total.
Je ne me souviens plus, mais je crois avoir visité les maisons troglodythes à Matmata.
J'a encore quelques photos qu'il faudra que je scanne, oui, paysages lunaires d'un autre monde.
Dépaysement total.
Tout vient à point pour qui sait attendre
Bonjour à tous ARRAWAK
Bonjour à tous ARRAWAK
Bonjour...!!!😉!!!
Dans un autre registre..., à propos des maisons sur pilotis, voici une vidéo intitulée "Les pilotis de la misère", filmée dans un des pays, qui je crois t'intéresse particulièrement...le Cambodge
http://ma-tvideo.france3.fr/video/iLyROoaft4g0.html
Dans un autre registre..., à propos des maisons sur pilotis, voici une vidéo intitulée "Les pilotis de la misère", filmée dans un des pays, qui je crois t'intéresse particulièrement...le Cambodge
http://ma-tvideo.france3.fr/video/iLyROoaft4g0.html
Bonsoir Archi.
Merci pour cette vidéo. Je découvrirai ces paysages en février prochain, si tout va bien. Je me suis dis que rechercher des photos anciennes de maisons cambodgiennes sur pilotis iraient bien avec ma lecture actuelle....dont en voici quelques extraits.
Quelques extraits du Pèlerin d'Angkor de Pierre Loti, découvrant le Tonlé Sap et les villages sur pilotis ( 1901 ).
" Nous sommes devant un village, sur une petite rivière aux berges de fleurs. (…) Les maisonnettes de chaume, sur pilotis, s'alignent le long d'un sentier de sable fin.(…) Halte au bout d'une heure à Siem Reap, presque une ville, mais toute à fait siamoise, avec ses maisonnettes toujours perchées sur pilotis, et sa pagode qui se hérisse de cornes d'or. Il y a cependant un petit bureau de poste, tout campagnard, où l'on peut affranchir ses lettres à l'effigie du roi Chulalongkorn ".
Des constructions coloniales ? Pour cela, il faudrait des photos… Pierre Loti décrit aussi les habitations des moines bonzes, préposés à la garde des ruines d'Angkor et installées dans les ruines.
" Parmi quelques palmiers frêles, des maisonnettes sur pilotis, en bois et en nattes, très légères, avec d'élégantes fenêtres festonnées (…). Ils nous offrent comme gîte le grand abri qui sert aux fidèles pendant les pèlerinages : c'est, sur pilotis, comme leurs maisons, un plancher à claire-voie et une toiture de chaume que supportent les colonnes de bois rougeâtre (…).Nous campons là, sur des nattes, derrière nos mousselines hâtivement tendues, heureux de pouvoir enfin nous allonger, à 5 ou 6 pieds au-dessus de la terre où rampent les serpents (…). Les pilotis m'éloignent du sol où courent les bêtes vénéneuses (…). Autour de moi, s'installent les bouviers jaunes de ma suite; comme ils n'ont pas de moustiquaire, ils décident de se relayer, pour entretenir jusqu'au matin, sous le plancher à claire-voie de notre logis, un grand feu d'herbes qui nous enveloppera d'un nuage protecteur "… contre les moustiques…
Les pilotis ont bien des fonctions : isoler des animaux, de l'eau, …..
Les deux documents joints proviennent des fonds de la bibliothèque nationale de Phnom Penh.... un voyage virtuel que j'ai beaucoup apprécié... plus de 2 000 documents à parcourir sans modération pour les amoureux du Cambodge.
Merci pour cette vidéo. Je découvrirai ces paysages en février prochain, si tout va bien. Je me suis dis que rechercher des photos anciennes de maisons cambodgiennes sur pilotis iraient bien avec ma lecture actuelle....dont en voici quelques extraits.
Quelques extraits du Pèlerin d'Angkor de Pierre Loti, découvrant le Tonlé Sap et les villages sur pilotis ( 1901 ).
" Nous sommes devant un village, sur une petite rivière aux berges de fleurs. (…) Les maisonnettes de chaume, sur pilotis, s'alignent le long d'un sentier de sable fin.(…) Halte au bout d'une heure à Siem Reap, presque une ville, mais toute à fait siamoise, avec ses maisonnettes toujours perchées sur pilotis, et sa pagode qui se hérisse de cornes d'or. Il y a cependant un petit bureau de poste, tout campagnard, où l'on peut affranchir ses lettres à l'effigie du roi Chulalongkorn ".
Des constructions coloniales ? Pour cela, il faudrait des photos… Pierre Loti décrit aussi les habitations des moines bonzes, préposés à la garde des ruines d'Angkor et installées dans les ruines.
" Parmi quelques palmiers frêles, des maisonnettes sur pilotis, en bois et en nattes, très légères, avec d'élégantes fenêtres festonnées (…). Ils nous offrent comme gîte le grand abri qui sert aux fidèles pendant les pèlerinages : c'est, sur pilotis, comme leurs maisons, un plancher à claire-voie et une toiture de chaume que supportent les colonnes de bois rougeâtre (…).Nous campons là, sur des nattes, derrière nos mousselines hâtivement tendues, heureux de pouvoir enfin nous allonger, à 5 ou 6 pieds au-dessus de la terre où rampent les serpents (…). Les pilotis m'éloignent du sol où courent les bêtes vénéneuses (…). Autour de moi, s'installent les bouviers jaunes de ma suite; comme ils n'ont pas de moustiquaire, ils décident de se relayer, pour entretenir jusqu'au matin, sous le plancher à claire-voie de notre logis, un grand feu d'herbes qui nous enveloppera d'un nuage protecteur "… contre les moustiques…
Les pilotis ont bien des fonctions : isoler des animaux, de l'eau, …..
Les deux documents joints proviennent des fonds de la bibliothèque nationale de Phnom Penh.... un voyage virtuel que j'ai beaucoup apprécié... plus de 2 000 documents à parcourir sans modération pour les amoureux du Cambodge.
Marie.
Il n'est rien de plus beau que l'instant qui précède le voyage.
Quelques photos...pour complèter ta vidéo. Cambodge. Tonlé Sap.
La dernière photo est un ... déménagement.
Bonne journée. Marie.
Source : www.geopopo.visoterra.com ( blog d'une étudiante)
La dernière photo est un ... déménagement.
Bonne journée. Marie.
Source : www.geopopo.visoterra.com ( blog d'une étudiante)
Marie.
Il n'est rien de plus beau que l'instant qui précède le voyage.
Bonjour Marie...😉
Merci pour ce morceau choisi...

En voici un autre toujours de Pierre Loti, à ton attention...
Arrivée à Phnom Penh Lundi, 25 novembre 1901 L’air ici est déjà moins accablant qu’à Saigon, moins chargé d’élétricité et de vapeur d’eau. On se sent mieux vivre. Et une mélancolie tout autre émane de cette ville, qui est perdue à l’intérieur des terres, qui n’a ni grands navires, ni matelots ni animation d’aucune sorte. Voici relativement peu d’années que le roi norodom a confié son pays à la France, et déjà tout ce que nous avons bâti à Pnom-Penh a pris un air de vieillesse, sous la brûlure du soleil : les belles rues droites que nous avons tracées, et ou personne ne passe, sont verdies par les herbes ; on croirait l’une de ces colonies anciennes, dont le charme est fait de désuétude et de silence... ... A trois heures de l’après midi, je fais appareiller pour continuer mon voyage vers les ruines d’Angkor, en remontant le cours du Mékong. Aussitôt disparaît Pnom-Penh. Et la grande brousse asiatique recommence de nous envelopper entre ses deux rideaux profonds, en même que se révèle, partout alentour, une vie animale d’intensité fougueuse. Sur les rives, que nous frôlons presque, des armées d’oiseaux pécheurs se tiennent au guet, pélicans, aigrettes et marabouts. Parfois des compagnies de corbeaux noircissent l’air. Dans le lointains, se lèvent des petits nuages de poussière verte, et quand ils s’approchent, ce sont des vols d’innombrables perruches. Ca et là, les arbres sont pleins de singes, dont on voit les longues queues alignées pendre comme une frange à toutes les branches. De loin en loin, des habitations humaines en groupe perdu. Toujours un fuseau d’or les domine, pointant vers le ciel : la pagode.
Merci pour ce morceau choisi...

En voici un autre toujours de Pierre Loti, à ton attention...
Arrivée à Phnom Penh Lundi, 25 novembre 1901 L’air ici est déjà moins accablant qu’à Saigon, moins chargé d’élétricité et de vapeur d’eau. On se sent mieux vivre. Et une mélancolie tout autre émane de cette ville, qui est perdue à l’intérieur des terres, qui n’a ni grands navires, ni matelots ni animation d’aucune sorte. Voici relativement peu d’années que le roi norodom a confié son pays à la France, et déjà tout ce que nous avons bâti à Pnom-Penh a pris un air de vieillesse, sous la brûlure du soleil : les belles rues droites que nous avons tracées, et ou personne ne passe, sont verdies par les herbes ; on croirait l’une de ces colonies anciennes, dont le charme est fait de désuétude et de silence... ... A trois heures de l’après midi, je fais appareiller pour continuer mon voyage vers les ruines d’Angkor, en remontant le cours du Mékong. Aussitôt disparaît Pnom-Penh. Et la grande brousse asiatique recommence de nous envelopper entre ses deux rideaux profonds, en même que se révèle, partout alentour, une vie animale d’intensité fougueuse. Sur les rives, que nous frôlons presque, des armées d’oiseaux pécheurs se tiennent au guet, pélicans, aigrettes et marabouts. Parfois des compagnies de corbeaux noircissent l’air. Dans le lointains, se lèvent des petits nuages de poussière verte, et quand ils s’approchent, ce sont des vols d’innombrables perruches. Ca et là, les arbres sont pleins de singes, dont on voit les longues queues alignées pendre comme une frange à toutes les branches. De loin en loin, des habitations humaines en groupe perdu. Toujours un fuseau d’or les domine, pointant vers le ciel : la pagode.

😉Je te cherchais pour t'envoyer les photos de la Tunisie, désert et architecture.
tu reconnaîtras et commenteras mieux que moi, j'en suis sur.
Seul, le passage entre la roche escarpée, signale la frontière algérienne.
Tout vient à point pour qui sait attendre
Bonjour à tous ARRAWAK
Bonjour à tous ARRAWAK
Bonjour, 🙂
Je me lance mais sans garantie...
Photo 1 : oasis de montagne, région de Chébika.
Ph.2 : El Djem...trop facile !
Ph. 3 : Canyon de Mides.
Ph. 4 et 5 : Gorfas de ???... Greniers et habitations des semi-nomades.
Ph. 6 : Sable du grand erg oriental.
Ph. 7 : El Djem.
Ai-je gagné un séjour gratuit pour le Sud tunisien.
Michel 🙂
Je me lance mais sans garantie...
Photo 1 : oasis de montagne, région de Chébika.
Ph.2 : El Djem...trop facile !
Ph. 3 : Canyon de Mides.
Ph. 4 et 5 : Gorfas de ???... Greniers et habitations des semi-nomades.
Ph. 6 : Sable du grand erg oriental.
Ph. 7 : El Djem.
Ai-je gagné un séjour gratuit pour le Sud tunisien.
Michel 🙂
😉Bien oui, tu as gagné un voyage, tu peux déjà choisir le dromadaire................
Où le quatre quatre.
en ce moment il y a des promotions intéressantes pour la Tunisie.
Tout vient à point pour qui sait attendre
Bonjour à tous ARRAWAK
Bonjour à tous ARRAWAK
Bonsoir Harlaut ...😉
Désolé, j'ai fait des recherches mais je n'ai pas retrouvé....🤪
Juste une piste pour t'aider..., remettre la photo dans la discussion-jeu "Des photos en veux-tu en voila" et je suis presque certain qu'un ou une des participantes à ce jeu saura répondre à ta question....😉😏🙂😛
Bonne chance !!!😎!!!
Désolé, j'ai fait des recherches mais je n'ai pas retrouvé....🤪
Juste une piste pour t'aider..., remettre la photo dans la discussion-jeu "Des photos en veux-tu en voila" et je suis presque certain qu'un ou une des participantes à ce jeu saura répondre à ta question....😉😏🙂😛
Bonne chance !!!😎!!!
😉Une croix, datant du XV ème siècle, classée aux beaux Arts
Et la statue dédiée aux fusillés martyrs à dun les places dans la Nièvre en 1944
Vitrail dans l'église.
Eglise. XIXème siècle
Et sanglier allant boire à la fontaine.
Notre France regorge également de trésors en art et architecture.
Tout vient à point pour qui sait attendre
Bonjour à tous ARRAWAK
Bonjour à tous ARRAWAK
Bonjour Barbot.
Comme le montre ta photo sur le post du 4 septembre, la Muraille de Chine et ses fortifications constituent un ensemble architectural unique. Tes photos sont superbes, particulièrement la première.
Pour ceux qui s'intéressent à l'histoire de la Grande Muraille, quelques repères historiques et quelques infos sur ses modes de construction.
Elle désigne, en réalité, un ensemble de fortifications, construites sur une période d'environ 2 000 ans, par les diverses dynasties. Elle porte le surnom de " Longue muraille d'une myriade de li ".
Elle s'étend au nord du pays sur environ 5 000 kilomètres. en réalité, personne ne semble d'accord sur ce chiffre. Les tracés commencent à la Porte de Jade, à l'ouest et se terminent dans le golfe de Corée, à l'est.
Elle a été construite en plusieurs étapes.
Une première série de murs défensifs, aujourd'hui en grande partie disparus, remonte aux Royaumes Combattants (480- 222 B.C.). Ce sont sans doute de simples levées de terre, protégées de fossés
La seconde étape remonte au règne de l'empereur Qing Shi Huangdi (221- 207 B.C.). Ce dernier reprend une partie des fortifications existantes. 300 000 hommes travaillent à une levée de terre, qui est ensuite recouverte de pierres et renforcée de bastions à intervalles réguliers.
La troisième étape est celle de la période Ming ( 1368- 1644). Les empereurs de cette dynastie reprennent et prolongent les fortifications. Seule la partie orientale est restée en terre, surmontée de branchages.
LES MODES DE CONSTRUCTION DE LA GRANDE MURAILLE.
Le mur peut faire jusqu'à 10 m de large à la base. Il se compose de terre, d'un mélange de pierres ou de briques, revêtu de pierre ou de brique. Pour éviter l'humidité, on utilise la méthode du mur " en terre à trois éléments mêlés ", où on alterne de la chaux, de la terre et du sable .
LES DIFFERENTS ELEMENTS DE LA CONSTRUCTION.
D'une hauteur variable, pouvant aller de 6 à 8 m en moyenne, le mur comprend un ensemble de tours de guet, tours de feu, pour envoyer les messages. Large d'environ 5 m, le chemin de ronde, était en général pavé de briques et bordé d'un parapet crénelé. Au nord de Pékin, à 75 kilomètres de la capitale, le tronçon de Balading, permet de se faire une petite idée de la construction. Le chemin de ronde est parfois si pentu, qu'il est quasiment impossible de monter si l'on ne s'accroche pas à la rampe.
Au-delà de leur rôle défensif, ces constructions renvoient à une certaine vision du monde, entre l'Empire du Milieu et les peuples nomades des steppes, le monde civilisé et celui des barbares.
Elle a fait rêver des générations entières de voyageurs, des plus illustres aux plus modestes.
Un historique plus complet est accessible sur http://blog.voyagesmillebornes.com, rubrique architecture.
Deux livres à signaler sur la Grande muraille :
Michaud ( Roland et Sabrina) et Jan ( Michel), La grande muraille de Chine, Imprimerie Nationale, 2000. Un texte, accompagné de très nombreuses photos.
Schwartz ( Daniel), La grande Muraille de Chine, Thames et Hudson, 2001. Un recueil de photos en noir et blanc, par un photographe ayant parcouru une grande partie des constructions.
Photos (argentiques scannées) : La grande Muraille au nord de Pékin. La carte ne présente qu'une partie des tracés, situés au nord-est.
Comme le montre ta photo sur le post du 4 septembre, la Muraille de Chine et ses fortifications constituent un ensemble architectural unique. Tes photos sont superbes, particulièrement la première.
Pour ceux qui s'intéressent à l'histoire de la Grande Muraille, quelques repères historiques et quelques infos sur ses modes de construction.
Elle désigne, en réalité, un ensemble de fortifications, construites sur une période d'environ 2 000 ans, par les diverses dynasties. Elle porte le surnom de " Longue muraille d'une myriade de li ".
Elle s'étend au nord du pays sur environ 5 000 kilomètres. en réalité, personne ne semble d'accord sur ce chiffre. Les tracés commencent à la Porte de Jade, à l'ouest et se terminent dans le golfe de Corée, à l'est.
Elle a été construite en plusieurs étapes.
Une première série de murs défensifs, aujourd'hui en grande partie disparus, remonte aux Royaumes Combattants (480- 222 B.C.). Ce sont sans doute de simples levées de terre, protégées de fossés
La seconde étape remonte au règne de l'empereur Qing Shi Huangdi (221- 207 B.C.). Ce dernier reprend une partie des fortifications existantes. 300 000 hommes travaillent à une levée de terre, qui est ensuite recouverte de pierres et renforcée de bastions à intervalles réguliers.
La troisième étape est celle de la période Ming ( 1368- 1644). Les empereurs de cette dynastie reprennent et prolongent les fortifications. Seule la partie orientale est restée en terre, surmontée de branchages.
LES MODES DE CONSTRUCTION DE LA GRANDE MURAILLE.
Le mur peut faire jusqu'à 10 m de large à la base. Il se compose de terre, d'un mélange de pierres ou de briques, revêtu de pierre ou de brique. Pour éviter l'humidité, on utilise la méthode du mur " en terre à trois éléments mêlés ", où on alterne de la chaux, de la terre et du sable .
LES DIFFERENTS ELEMENTS DE LA CONSTRUCTION.
D'une hauteur variable, pouvant aller de 6 à 8 m en moyenne, le mur comprend un ensemble de tours de guet, tours de feu, pour envoyer les messages. Large d'environ 5 m, le chemin de ronde, était en général pavé de briques et bordé d'un parapet crénelé. Au nord de Pékin, à 75 kilomètres de la capitale, le tronçon de Balading, permet de se faire une petite idée de la construction. Le chemin de ronde est parfois si pentu, qu'il est quasiment impossible de monter si l'on ne s'accroche pas à la rampe.
Au-delà de leur rôle défensif, ces constructions renvoient à une certaine vision du monde, entre l'Empire du Milieu et les peuples nomades des steppes, le monde civilisé et celui des barbares.
Elle a fait rêver des générations entières de voyageurs, des plus illustres aux plus modestes.
Un historique plus complet est accessible sur http://blog.voyagesmillebornes.com, rubrique architecture.
Deux livres à signaler sur la Grande muraille :
Michaud ( Roland et Sabrina) et Jan ( Michel), La grande muraille de Chine, Imprimerie Nationale, 2000. Un texte, accompagné de très nombreuses photos.
Schwartz ( Daniel), La grande Muraille de Chine, Thames et Hudson, 2001. Un recueil de photos en noir et blanc, par un photographe ayant parcouru une grande partie des constructions.
Photos (argentiques scannées) : La grande Muraille au nord de Pékin. La carte ne présente qu'une partie des tracés, situés au nord-est.
Marie.
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hello to all travelers with their eyes wide open to the desert...
I’ve always wondered what I was "doing" on this earth. And why my father, who died a few months after I was born—a former youngest French resistance fighter—joined the First Saharan Motorized Company in Atar and spent the rest of his life repairing army engines in Algeria, Mauritania, Senegal, Mali (which didn’t exist under that name back then), Morocco, and finally Algeria, where my mother was born and raised. (Believe me, it’s not "cool" being the child of a soldier in a country occupied by France, and even less so the child of a "pied-noir.") Of course, I never got an answer: the dead don’t talk, and the army doesn’t either. But here’s the thing—I had photos... So naturally, one day I hit the road. I wanted to see, to understand. It’s thanks to VF that I was able to do a little research on crossing the Morocco-Mauritania border, and I’m grateful to its members, just as I’m grateful to all those who welcomed me on the road for 14 years. For the past few weeks, I’ve been wondering if I should talk about this or not... It turns out the Mauritanians changed my life by asking for my help... And that started as early as February 2012... (Did I owe them something? No answer to that question.) Ah, the irony—they saw me coming. But when you’re handed sick children and begged to do something, what would you have done? I’d worked in a hospital, so I knew a bit about the rules to follow. I didn’t hesitate. And well, over all these years, I met doctors, surgeons, and together we organized care, evacuations of children, training for surgeons—even trying to stop children from having to travel outside their country. It was never easy. I’d like to thank those who supported us, as well as *La Chaîne de l’Espoir*, *La Fondation Face au Monde*, and everyone who built bridges between our two countries. Unfortunately, despite the constant efforts of Mauritanian doctors and surgeons, some children couldn’t be helped in time. Today, I want to talk about four siblings—orphans of their mother—suffering from congenital glaucoma causing irreversible blindness. Their case was entrusted to me in 2020, just weeks before the big lockdown. We couldn’t do anything for them then, but when their father asked me for a gift, I rushed to my computer and wrote a story. Through a tale, the children take a great journey, explore their country, and fulfill a dream. I never thought this book would be published—it was, in 2023. This book pays tribute to Mauritania. It’s a message for those who know nothing about the hardships of life there, carrying both the harshness and beauty of an immense desert where you can travel by 4x4, bike, on foot, or by camel in complete safety. It bears witness to the kindness of Mauritanians toward travelers. As a woman traveling alone in my vehicle—a now-rusted old Mercedes that no longer runs—I had the most beautiful encounters of my life there (I’ve seen other parts of the world...). The blind children of Choum, Atar, Nouadhibou, and Nouakchott will forever be in my heart. Volunteer readers transcribed the book into a free audio version for the visually impaired. It’s available in sound libraries in France, the *Fondation Valentin Haüy*, and the Swiss Romande library. I made my last trip to Mauritania in my old 4x4 to distribute the book everywhere, especially to its heroes and the school for the visually impaired in Nouakchott. After that, I thought it was time to close the chapter because I no longer have the means or the strength to travel. My publishers chose this title for it: *The Blue Eyes of the Desert*. This publication helped a mission of Swiss volunteer ophthalmologists come to operate on glaucomas in Mauritania. I’m thrilled because they come back every year! This adventure is ending, yes—everything must come to an end—but ultimately, it was born here, on the VF site!! So yes, I had to say it: THANK YOU!!!!!
I’ve always wondered what I was "doing" on this earth. And why my father, who died a few months after I was born—a former youngest French resistance fighter—joined the First Saharan Motorized Company in Atar and spent the rest of his life repairing army engines in Algeria, Mauritania, Senegal, Mali (which didn’t exist under that name back then), Morocco, and finally Algeria, where my mother was born and raised. (Believe me, it’s not "cool" being the child of a soldier in a country occupied by France, and even less so the child of a "pied-noir.") Of course, I never got an answer: the dead don’t talk, and the army doesn’t either. But here’s the thing—I had photos... So naturally, one day I hit the road. I wanted to see, to understand. It’s thanks to VF that I was able to do a little research on crossing the Morocco-Mauritania border, and I’m grateful to its members, just as I’m grateful to all those who welcomed me on the road for 14 years. For the past few weeks, I’ve been wondering if I should talk about this or not... It turns out the Mauritanians changed my life by asking for my help... And that started as early as February 2012... (Did I owe them something? No answer to that question.) Ah, the irony—they saw me coming. But when you’re handed sick children and begged to do something, what would you have done? I’d worked in a hospital, so I knew a bit about the rules to follow. I didn’t hesitate. And well, over all these years, I met doctors, surgeons, and together we organized care, evacuations of children, training for surgeons—even trying to stop children from having to travel outside their country. It was never easy. I’d like to thank those who supported us, as well as *La Chaîne de l’Espoir*, *La Fondation Face au Monde*, and everyone who built bridges between our two countries. Unfortunately, despite the constant efforts of Mauritanian doctors and surgeons, some children couldn’t be helped in time. Today, I want to talk about four siblings—orphans of their mother—suffering from congenital glaucoma causing irreversible blindness. Their case was entrusted to me in 2020, just weeks before the big lockdown. We couldn’t do anything for them then, but when their father asked me for a gift, I rushed to my computer and wrote a story. Through a tale, the children take a great journey, explore their country, and fulfill a dream. I never thought this book would be published—it was, in 2023. This book pays tribute to Mauritania. It’s a message for those who know nothing about the hardships of life there, carrying both the harshness and beauty of an immense desert where you can travel by 4x4, bike, on foot, or by camel in complete safety. It bears witness to the kindness of Mauritanians toward travelers. As a woman traveling alone in my vehicle—a now-rusted old Mercedes that no longer runs—I had the most beautiful encounters of my life there (I’ve seen other parts of the world...). The blind children of Choum, Atar, Nouadhibou, and Nouakchott will forever be in my heart. Volunteer readers transcribed the book into a free audio version for the visually impaired. It’s available in sound libraries in France, the *Fondation Valentin Haüy*, and the Swiss Romande library. I made my last trip to Mauritania in my old 4x4 to distribute the book everywhere, especially to its heroes and the school for the visually impaired in Nouakchott. After that, I thought it was time to close the chapter because I no longer have the means or the strength to travel. My publishers chose this title for it: *The Blue Eyes of the Desert*. This publication helped a mission of Swiss volunteer ophthalmologists come to operate on glaucomas in Mauritania. I’m thrilled because they come back every year! This adventure is ending, yes—everything must come to an end—but ultimately, it was born here, on the VF site!! So yes, I had to say it: THANK YOU!!!!!
Hi everyone,
Who’d like to share their best and worst travel memories in a few lines? For me, it’s watching the TAJ MAHAL at sunrise and getting chased by dogs at the top of a mountain pass in GREECE on the way back from ISTANBUL. THANKS GUYS
Who’d like to share their best and worst travel memories in a few lines? For me, it’s watching the TAJ MAHAL at sunrise and getting chased by dogs at the top of a mountain pass in GREECE on the way back from ISTANBUL. THANKS GUYS
Hi everyone,
I’m Loulou, a French expat who’s been living in Southeast Asia for about fifteen years, currently in Phnom Penh, Cambodia. A passionate walker at heart, I’ve trekked in Nepal (Thorung La, Mardi Himal), India, Vietnam, and I’m still planning new hikes (Char Dham, Langtang, Annapurna).
I’ve just published my first travel journal, recounting three months of walking and encounters across India. A portion of the sales goes to an educational center I support in Kep, for children whose parents work in the salt marshes.
I’m also working on a second book about Nepal with a musician friend, focusing on the Mardi Himal trek—two independent perspectives on the same journey.
Happy to swap stories with you about the Himalayas, India, Southeast Asia, or just the urge to hit the road and walk far from home.
Safe travels,
Loulou
Hi! It was totally by chance that I stumbled upon VoyageForum (an ad online and a story lol), and I’ve been reading some really old posts from 2011 about Thai massage schools—discussions on how to get by, accommodation, prices, etc. It reminded me of my own experience: I kept things simple by staying with a local family during my entire trip. I only shared all the expenses with them, which, I’ll admit, was super cheap… and I often traveled with them, which naturally opened a lot of doors for me. To start, at the school in Salaya, my Thai friend immediately connected me with Teacher Phong (the school’s mentor and teacher of teachers, a former monk). I was supposed to join a group session with other foreigners, but for some reason I don’t know, I got two days of private lessons for free with this expert… incredible! And on top of that, he loved France! It was an amazing experience. I "discovered" massage by chance—the Thai family just told me: "Try it, you’ll see!" (I’d had a pretty intense massage in the capital before 😅… but the next day, I felt unbelievably great!))
Every morning, I’d take a taxi (chosen by the Thai family at prices that beat all the competition) to this school—I’ve forgotten the name of the little village now… right in the heart of the countryside. Then, in the evenings, I’d keep practicing massage on all the family members… and they’d teach me Thai at the same time!))
Since then, I’ve practiced a bit, with lots of positive feedback. Following Teacher Phong’s advice—he thought my pressure was deep, firm, and precise—he strongly encouraged me to take this seriously.
I love Thailand so much. It’s a whole different way of living… and it’s a real blessing, even if I couldn’t live there full-time. Anyway, that was an unforgettable memory, and sometimes the Thai family and I still say hi—from 2011, 2013… right up to today!
Take care, everyone! !
Every morning, I’d take a taxi (chosen by the Thai family at prices that beat all the competition) to this school—I’ve forgotten the name of the little village now… right in the heart of the countryside. Then, in the evenings, I’d keep practicing massage on all the family members… and they’d teach me Thai at the same time!))
Since then, I’ve practiced a bit, with lots of positive feedback. Following Teacher Phong’s advice—he thought my pressure was deep, firm, and precise—he strongly encouraged me to take this seriously.
I love Thailand so much. It’s a whole different way of living… and it’s a real blessing, even if I couldn’t live there full-time. Anyway, that was an unforgettable memory, and sometimes the Thai family and I still say hi—from 2011, 2013… right up to today!
Take care, everyone! !
"It seems to me that poverty would be less painful in the sun" wrote Aznavour...
Not sure...😕 Who can prove that people in hot countries are happier than others? What do you think?
Is it better to live in Montpellier than in Lille? Are the Pygmies happier than the Inuit? Are Canadians less happy than the people of Louisiana? Are there more French expats in hot countries?
And your travels? Do you choose your destinations based on the climate? Do you rejoice when a bit of sunshine appears?
Not sure...😕 Who can prove that people in hot countries are happier than others? What do you think?
Is it better to live in Montpellier than in Lille? Are the Pygmies happier than the Inuit? Are Canadians less happy than the people of Louisiana? Are there more French expats in hot countries?
And your travels? Do you choose your destinations based on the climate? Do you rejoice when a bit of sunshine appears?
Hi everyone, just this once I’m not posting for a travel story, but to share a thought for Venezuela.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed. Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed. Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
hi there
I’d like to invite you to discover my coastal province in central Vietnam: Quang Ngai.
This year, my province has really improved its infrastructure—mountains, countryside, and sea are all authentic here.
No harassers or thieves, and no Russians either.
A local lunch costs around 1 €.
A *** hotel room is about 25 €, and you can find hotels right on My Khe Beach.
We have a specialty: *banh xeo*—10 crepes for just 1.5 €.
You can rent motorbikes to explore the province and maybe visit the many ethnic minorities.
I live here—I’m not selling anything, but I can help if needed (my father-in-law is a traditional Vietnamese doctor and he’s very skilled).
We're planning to spend a month in Vietnam. Is hiring a guide helpful?
Hi everyone! 😉
I’m Typhaine, 35 years old. Five years ago, I left France for a solo round-the-world trip—no planes, just a van, hitchhiking, cycling, and even a canoe in the Amazon! Today, I work as a naturalist guide in Argentine Patagonia.
Wherever I go, my compass stays the same: observing and photographing wildlife, which I deeply admire and respect.
My project: I’d love to share this experience through a sustainable, authentic, and immersive nature tourism initiative. But to build something meaningful, I need to understand how other nature enthusiasts experience their own adventures.
If you:
Are over 20 years old
Have a true passion for Nature
Have already taken at least one trip lasting more than 3 nights (in your country or abroad) in your life
Then... would you have 5 to 7 minutes to help me by filling out this questionnaire? 🙂 »» https://forms.gle/y74ckkvN9TjrougLA
Promise: I’m not selling anything, this isn’t marketing. Your answers are 100% anonymous and will only help me shape this wild project. A huge thank you to everyone for your help and kindness! Looking forward to chatting in this thread 😛
(Dear admins, this is purely a collaborative effort for my project study, with no commercial purpose. Thank you so much for your support!)
Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
My project: I’d love to share this experience through a sustainable, authentic, and immersive nature tourism initiative. But to build something meaningful, I need to understand how other nature enthusiasts experience their own adventures.
If you:
Are over 20 years old
Have a true passion for Nature
Have already taken at least one trip lasting more than 3 nights (in your country or abroad) in your life
Then... would you have 5 to 7 minutes to help me by filling out this questionnaire? 🙂 »» https://forms.gle/y74ckkvN9TjrougLA
Promise: I’m not selling anything, this isn’t marketing. Your answers are 100% anonymous and will only help me shape this wild project. A huge thank you to everyone for your help and kindness! Looking forward to chatting in this thread 😛
(Dear admins, this is purely a collaborative effort for my project study, with no commercial purpose. Thank you so much for your support!)
Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
Hello everyone,
It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

...
It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

...
I spent 3 weeks in Bali last summer (+ 3 nights on Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java). So I wanted to see what ChatGPT could suggest for comparison...
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Hello everyone,
I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
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Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

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I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
.
.Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

...
I’ve kept the habit of blowing my nose in the sink and then washing my hands—a custom I picked up in India. Sometimes, non-travelers are shocked when they catch me in the act... 🤪
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
After taking a little trip around the world, I came back a few months ago with an idea in mind.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
As part of my Master’s thesis, I’m currently conducting a public survey on a topic that concerns all of us when planning a trip: artificial intelligence and the role of human contact in travel planning.
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
While browsing the forum to gather info for my upcoming trip to Thailand, I often see the terms "traveler," "great traveler," and also "tourist"—so what’s the nuance for you?
I've traveled quite a bit in Vietnam over the past few years—from the southern delta to bustling cities and even some small islands—but what really sticks with me is the north, the high mountains.
Up there, there's something different—maybe slower, more raw. The morning markets with ethnic groups, women in traditional clothes, the colors...
The stilt houses, kids following you and laughing for no reason, the terraced rice fields—it almost feels unreal at times, so vast and quiet, yet so human and simple.
You often hear that Sapa has become too touristy, and that's partly true, especially in the center. But as soon as you move a little farther away, everything changes quickly. The landscapes open up, encounters feel more natural, and you rediscover something truly authentic.
I think it's that contrast that struck me—the difference between what you imagine before going and what you actually discover when you take the time.
And you—what memory do you hold onto from Vietnam? A particular place that touched you more than others?
Hello,
We’re finalizing the plans for our upcoming trip to China in May 2025. The second-to-last stop will be in Zhangjiajie, where we’ve planned to stay for 2 full days before heading to Shanghai.
We’re traveling solo using local transport and have arranged to stay in the city of Zhangjiajie.
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
Hello 🙂
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
Hi everyone, here’s our itinerary. Arriving on the evening of December 13th. Departing on January 7th.
Thanks in advance for your tips and valuable feedback.
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Really disappointed with Costa Rica! Pura vida? The scam of the century!
(Costa Rica pure emptiness).
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
Hello,
Since the war between Russia and Ukraine, nothing is simple anymore for traveling to Belarus due to sanctions.
No more direct flights from the EU to Minsk.
Driving is a huge hassle, especially crossing through Poland at the only open border in Brest—you can wait 2, 3, or even 4 days just to get through by car.
The least painful driving option is to come via Lithuania and cross at the only open border, with a minimum wait time of 8 hours, sometimes up to 20 hours or more!!
Controls are very strict and annoying on both the Lithuanian and Belarusian sides. Avoid bringing alcohol, food, or cigarettes—everything will end up in the trash, especially when leaving Belarus for Vilnius, where the Lithuanians are tough, even with EU citizens.
The joy I once knew when visiting my wife in Minsk is sadly over—it’s now a real ordeal.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
Hi everyone!
I’m putting together our travel itinerary for Veneto at the end of April. And the more I look and research potential sites to visit, the more I find!
We’ll only be there for a week—my family and I—including 3 days in Venice. So we have to make some choices...
I plan to rent a car when we arrive in Venice and head straight to Bergamo, which would be our first stop. We’d leave the car at the airport when we return to Venice so we can explore the city at our leisure.
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
Now that the curtain has fallen on the past year, it’s time to see what’s happening around here.
It seems pretty quiet, but I’ll read more in detail later.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
I’ve visited the U.S. four times myself, including two long road trips. The last one was just this past August...
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
Hi there,
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
Hello everyone,
Controversial topic? Not necessarily—maybe just a reflection on a world to come.
I spent the last 15 days of August on a cruise in Greenland, from Kangerlussuaq to Tasiilaq.
I was utterly amazed by this unique world of rock and ice, the little houses in every color, a simple life that’s also complicated by isolation and climate, among other things...
I carry in my heart the kindness of the people I met, the raw and gentle majesty of the icebergs, the colors of the sky...
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,

Hello to all East Africa lovers and nature enthusiasts in general,
While I prepare to share a recap of our latest trip/safari in Kenya soon, I’d like to wish you all a peaceful transition between 2025 and 2026.
Warm regards,
Puma2A.





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We’re a couple aged 58 and 63. We’ve just returned from a wonderful trip to South India in Tamil Nadu and a few days in Kerala. We traveled with a local French-speaking guide and his friend, the driver. They both live in Pondicherry. We spent 3 weeks with them in the most authentic way!
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like! M-Claire and Jean
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like! M-Claire and Jean
This catchy and somewhat mysterious title comes from several questions I’ve been asking myself.
VF has been back open for a reasonable number of weeks and months now. The number of visitors overall matches past averages, but the number of members online in the last 24 hours seems relatively lower than what we used to see.
Yet, to my surprise, I’m seeing fewer travel journals, way fewer messages, and way fewer questions. I don’t see many new registered users online, and I notice a number of members who are logged in but either aren’t participating or have stopped participating.
Something’s not adding up for me because, in my opinion, VF is still appealing, and I don’t see which other sites could really compete.
Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid? Does it just take more time for some people to discover the site or learn that it’s active again? Do people now prefer quick consumption on sites like FB or others I’m not familiar with? Where have the site’s old-timers gone, and what are they doing with their time now? What’s really going on here?
VF has been back open for a reasonable number of weeks and months now. The number of visitors overall matches past averages, but the number of members online in the last 24 hours seems relatively lower than what we used to see.
Yet, to my surprise, I’m seeing fewer travel journals, way fewer messages, and way fewer questions. I don’t see many new registered users online, and I notice a number of members who are logged in but either aren’t participating or have stopped participating.
Something’s not adding up for me because, in my opinion, VF is still appealing, and I don’t see which other sites could really compete.
Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid? Does it just take more time for some people to discover the site or learn that it’s active again? Do people now prefer quick consumption on sites like FB or others I’m not familiar with? Where have the site’s old-timers gone, and what are they doing with their time now? What’s really going on here?

















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