Inde... ou comment le pire cauchemar des hippies est en train de se réaliser
by Celineakavps
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
le contact avec un tourisme de masse a bousculé les mentalités
Le tourisme de masse en Inde, c'est le tourisme local.
Les occidentaux, c'est la cerise sur le juteux gâteau.
Par ailleurs, il n'y a pas de touristes occidentaux dans de nombreux états indiens. Or les mentalités ont aussi changé dans ces états...
Le tourisme de masse en Inde, c'est le tourisme local.
Les occidentaux, c'est la cerise sur le juteux gâteau.
Par ailleurs, il n'y a pas de touristes occidentaux dans de nombreux états indiens. Or les mentalités ont aussi changé dans ces états...
Par ailleurs, il n'y a pas de touristes occidentaux dans de nombreux états indiens. Or les mentalités ont aussi changé dans ces états...
Je ne suis pas certain que dans l'est de l'Inde :Assam Megalaya Arunachal pradesh les mentalités aient tellement changé enfin certainement moins que dans le Rajasthan qui concentre un maximum de visiteurs de nos contrées occidentales d'après ce que j'ai pu lire sur le VF..
Je ne suis pas certain que dans l'est de l'Inde :Assam Megalaya Arunachal pradesh les mentalités aient tellement changé enfin certainement moins que dans le Rajasthan qui concentre un maximum de visiteurs de nos contrées occidentales d'après ce que j'ai pu lire sur le VF..
Personnellement, je préfère que les mentalités changent.
Je suis d'accord qu'un jean, c'est moins joli qu'un sari mais ça s'enflamme moins vite quand on veut se débarrasser d'une bru ou d'une épouse qui ne plait plus.
Et ne parlons pas de la dot, la sati ou l'infanticide féminin...
Ne parlons pas non plus du système des castes...
Je suis d'accord qu'un jean, c'est moins joli qu'un sari mais ça s'enflamme moins vite quand on veut se débarrasser d'une bru ou d'une épouse qui ne plait plus.
Et ne parlons pas de la dot, la sati ou l'infanticide féminin...
Ne parlons pas non plus du système des castes...
Heureusement ! ... c'est vrai..
Paco
"les hommes sont aujourd'hui convaincus qu'ils volent .." René Char
Des souvenirs j'en ai d'autres, mais je les perds, car on démolit mes repères ..
Probablement . Il n'empêche que c'est tant mieux pour ceux qui bénéficient de cette aide .
.....je n'aurais jamais affirmé le contraire 🙂
.....je n'aurais jamais affirmé le contraire 🙂
Personnellement, je préfère que les mentalités changent.
Je suis d'accord qu'un jean, c'est moins joli qu'un sari mais ça s'enflamme moins vite quand on veut se débarrasser d'une bru ou d'une épouse qui ne plait plus.
Et ne parlons pas de la dot, la sati ou l'infanticide féminin...
Ne parlons pas non plus du système des castes...
Je ne parlais pas de la condition de la femme en Inde! Je parlais du changement négatif qui s'opère peu à peu dans les mentalités... de la progressive transformation des mentalités au contact des touristes occidentaux de plus en plus nombreux ; changements dont on peut se faire une idée générale en allant consulter par exemple la rubrique "arnaques" relative à l'Inde, "arnaques" auxquelles je n'ai jamais été confronté par le passé... cette transformation négative des mentalités j'ai pu la mesurer en me rendant à plusieurs reprises dans certains pays d'abord peu fréquentés par les touristes et qui sont devenus en une ou 2 décennies très touristiques.
La plupart du temps tes réponses sont très pertinentes mais des fois tu mélanges un peu tout! Dommage.
Et ne parlons pas de la dot, la sati ou l'infanticide féminin...
Ne parlons pas non plus du système des castes...
Je ne parlais pas de la condition de la femme en Inde! Je parlais du changement négatif qui s'opère peu à peu dans les mentalités... de la progressive transformation des mentalités au contact des touristes occidentaux de plus en plus nombreux ; changements dont on peut se faire une idée générale en allant consulter par exemple la rubrique "arnaques" relative à l'Inde, "arnaques" auxquelles je n'ai jamais été confronté par le passé... cette transformation négative des mentalités j'ai pu la mesurer en me rendant à plusieurs reprises dans certains pays d'abord peu fréquentés par les touristes et qui sont devenus en une ou 2 décennies très touristiques.
La plupart du temps tes réponses sont très pertinentes mais des fois tu mélanges un peu tout! Dommage.
Bonsoir depuis Panam Céline.
Moi je veux te remercier d'avoir relancé ce sempiternel débat entre avant/aujourd'hui, anciens/jeune car c'est aussi de ça dont il s'agit : le facteur temps.
Nous sommes toujours en retard d'une époque quand on voyage : en retard sur nos références de lectures, de témoignages, d'imagination sur le pays de destination. La Terre tourne et les temps changent, un énorme shift se réalise entre ouest et est, même si nous ne sommes pas encore morts et loin de là. Il faut bien vivre avec son époque et l'accepter parce que c'est justement notre époque, notre temps à nous : notre "créneau horaire ". Maintenant tu as toujours des "sentiers" pour tracer la tangente et trouver des espaces moins courus. Tu sais de quoi je parle car tu es de Paris, 1ere ville touristique du monde : certaines rues et quartiers sont archi-encombrés de visiteurs mais dès que tu passes dans une rue perpendiculaire tu ne vois plus personne ! Je connais des coins supers à Montmartre où des bistrots ne brassent que la population du quartier. Tu as la liberté de mouvement pour t'éloigner et trouver la bonne idée du lieu à rejoindre.
Si tu es de retour à Paris, il y a une réunion apéro-routards+touristes jeudi soir à la rue Oberkampf. Je continuerai cette discussion avec plaisir.
Ludo
Ludo
"Courir le Monde ne sert qu'à tuer le temps. On revient aussi insatisfait qu'on est parti. Il faut faire quelque chose de plus".
Ella Maillart, la voie cruelle
Tu ne peux pas séparer les changements qui te déplaisent des changements qui ont finalement ton approbation...
Par ailleurs, ce que tu lis dans la rubrique arnaque n'est que le reflet de la démocratisation du tourisme et de l'évolution de notre société.
La crédulité me semble être une valeur en hausse. La manie de se plaindre aussi.
Par ailleurs, ce que tu lis dans la rubrique arnaque n'est que le reflet de la démocratisation du tourisme et de l'évolution de notre société.
La crédulité me semble être une valeur en hausse. La manie de se plaindre aussi.
Bonsoir,
"ne pas oublier que les famines ont subsisté jusqu'aux années 1980, "
A ce propos, si vous aimez l'Inde et sa littérature, un très beau livre,
Le Riz et la mousson de Kamala Markandaya
A ce propos, si vous aimez l'Inde et sa littérature, un très beau livre,
Le Riz et la mousson de Kamala Markandaya
Le ciel c'est comme la mer à l’envers,
Par dessus tout, c'est la joie qui m'en impose,
Et je vends ma sublime 500 Royal Enfield, qui se bronze à GOA !
Par dessus tout, c'est la joie qui m'en impose,
Et je vends ma sublime 500 Royal Enfield, qui se bronze à GOA !
Tu ne peux pas séparer les changements qui te déplaisent des changements qui ont finalement ton approbation...
Par ailleurs, ce que tu lis dans la rubrique arnaque n'est que le reflet de la démocratisation du tourisme et de l'évolution de notre société.
La crédulité me semble être une valeur en hausse. La manie de se plaindre aussi.
😛arrête de te plaindre, aime pas les jérémiades http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xb9xkz_muppet-show-drum-battle-buddy-rich_fun
Par ailleurs, ce que tu lis dans la rubrique arnaque n'est que le reflet de la démocratisation du tourisme et de l'évolution de notre société.
La crédulité me semble être une valeur en hausse. La manie de se plaindre aussi.
😛arrête de te plaindre, aime pas les jérémiades http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xb9xkz_muppet-show-drum-battle-buddy-rich_fun
je te remercie Jean, je ne l'ai pas encore lu.
à bientôt ! amitiés.
Paco
"les hommes sont aujourd'hui convaincus qu'ils volent .." René Char
Des souvenirs j'en ai d'autres, mais je les perds, car on démolit mes repères ..
J'aime bcp la sensibilité de l'auteur, et ses autres livres aussi 😎
As tu lu "Cette nuit la liberté" de Dominique Lapierre et Larry Collins ?
Bien amicalement 😉
As tu lu "Cette nuit la liberté" de Dominique Lapierre et Larry Collins ?
Bien amicalement 😉
Le ciel c'est comme la mer à l’envers,
Par dessus tout, c'est la joie qui m'en impose,
Et je vends ma sublime 500 Royal Enfield, qui se bronze à GOA !
Par dessus tout, c'est la joie qui m'en impose,
Et je vends ma sublime 500 Royal Enfield, qui se bronze à GOA !
As tu lu "Cette nuit la liberté" de Dominique Lapierre et Larry Collins ?
Du même auteur ( Lapierre): la cité de la joie.
Du même auteur ( Lapierre): la cité de la joie.
Ho ! Alors ça c'est pour moi, la joie, y a pas mieux ! 😎
Persil à toi 😉
Le ciel c'est comme la mer à l’envers,
Par dessus tout, c'est la joie qui m'en impose,
Et je vends ma sublime 500 Royal Enfield, qui se bronze à GOA !
Par dessus tout, c'est la joie qui m'en impose,
Et je vends ma sublime 500 Royal Enfield, qui se bronze à GOA !
Pour voir en mouvement et en musique le Kerala (Cochin, Allepey, Backwater, Kumily, Munnar), Gokarna et Goa, c'est ici :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc-nEwqKwCE
slt je m'apelle colette je pars en Inde le 6 Janvier 2013 pou rune durée de 6 moi avec une association qui s'apelle FSL
pourais je avoir ton email afin qu'on puisse échanger sur ce pay ?
j'ai besoin d'avoir un peu plus de précision pour me rassurer .
merci
sohaing.g@hotmail.com
Bonjour,
Je reviens d'un premier séjour, seul, organisé par moi, de 15 jours en Inde. Entre Delhi, Agra et Jaipur. J'ai aussi été frappé par le nombre et l'élégance des touristes indiens. Naïvement, je ne m'y attendais pas... Ils nous ressemblent beaucoup, ont le même intérêt pour la photographie et l'électronique, et éprouvent les mêmes problèmes que les touristes occidentaux. Tout compte fait, c'est plutôt positif.
Bons voyages à tous,
Bernarddd
Oui, disons que les nouveaux riches nous ressemblent , que les anciens riches n'ont pas changé et les anciens pauvres non plus .
"La vie est un voyage qui se vit au présent ou jamais ...."
Oui, disons que les nouveaux riches nous ressemblent , que les anciens riches n'ont pas changé et les anciens pauvres non plus .
Mmmmm... Après les avoir observé, je dirais que les anciens riches et les nouveaux riches tendent à se fondre dans le moule créé pour eux par les médias indiens: tous à Bollywood... J'ai résidé dans un Heritage Palace, à Jaipur. Magnifique. Authentique. Forcément authentique puisqu'il s'agissait manifestement de la solution trouvée par les nouvelles générations (de vieux riches), encombrées par le legs des anciennes, pour se rééquiper de neuf selon les canons du moment: on prend la maison de famille, on y met tous les vieux meubles et autres bibelots, les vieilles photos de famille, les canons, les voitures à chevaux, on en fait un hôtel de luxe, on rend les touristes heureux, on gagne de l'argent... et on a enfin trouvé quoi faire avec toutes les (charmantes) vieilleries du temps passé. Et vive les créateurs tendance de l'Inde d'aujourd'hui! 🙂 Bernarddd
Mmmmm... Après les avoir observé, je dirais que les anciens riches et les nouveaux riches tendent à se fondre dans le moule créé pour eux par les médias indiens: tous à Bollywood... J'ai résidé dans un Heritage Palace, à Jaipur. Magnifique. Authentique. Forcément authentique puisqu'il s'agissait manifestement de la solution trouvée par les nouvelles générations (de vieux riches), encombrées par le legs des anciennes, pour se rééquiper de neuf selon les canons du moment: on prend la maison de famille, on y met tous les vieux meubles et autres bibelots, les vieilles photos de famille, les canons, les voitures à chevaux, on en fait un hôtel de luxe, on rend les touristes heureux, on gagne de l'argent... et on a enfin trouvé quoi faire avec toutes les (charmantes) vieilleries du temps passé. Et vive les créateurs tendance de l'Inde d'aujourd'hui! 🙂 Bernarddd
" Ils nous ressemblent beaucoup, ont le même intérêt pour la photographie et l'électronique, et éprouvent les mêmes problèmes que les touristes occidentaux. Tout compte fait, c'est plutôt positif. "
.. pour qui ? 😮
.. pour qui ? 😮
" On voyait partout des sardines ... "
Pour l'espèce canine qui est désormais, comme en Europe, chouchoutée par ses riches propriétaires...
Bon , je ne suis pas sûre que le Frolic au boeuf existe encore mais cela ne devrait pas tarder !
Bon , je ne suis pas sûre que le Frolic au boeuf existe encore mais cela ne devrait pas tarder !
Salut à tous !
J'ai été impressionné par la participation active des blogueurs sur ce post en si peu de temps…tristement sentimental ; A cela je répondrais :
Wesh, mademoiselle, si vous vous êtes cantonnée à votre environnement direct (le tour de votre hotel), il est clair que vous serez en mesure de comparer dans un laps de temps aussi court ( 6 ans de 2006 à 2013) l'évolution imposée par la globalisation de la médiatisation et de la distribution : je m'explique d'une part nous observons les memes publicités et d'autres part, je suis en mesure de m'acheter une bouteille de coke aussi bien en bas de chez moi en moins de 5 minutes qu'au coin de la rue à Pushkar ou à Ajmer !! Corporate Strategy : Think Global , Act de moins en moins Local...puisqu'il ya une homogénéisation des comportements....
Mais que faisaient les Hippies en leur temps...ils ne faisaient qu'écouter les Vibes "Tendance" et aller se dorer le cerveau dans les lieux "In" de l'époque..est ce que cela ne faisait il pas plus bling bling qu'aujourd'hui ??? "Ouais, je reviens de Kathmandou !!! enfin je suppose pour une grosse grande majorité..Waouh, le GROS MYTHE qui s'effondre !!
Mais que faisaient les Indiens en ce temps là ???, Ils n'avaient pas encore tous la television pour capter ce qui se faisait de mieux à cette époque !!! Par pitié, Non...je crois que vous nêtes absolument mais absolument pas dans le mouvement.. Allez rencontrer nos nouvelles générations en France ou dans le monde... Ils sont connectés et les questions tu portes quoi , tu écoutes quoi ou tu suis tes cours sur quels blogs... c'est cela le vrai Mouvement !!!
Le saviez vous ??? un prof de math bengalais à une communauté d'étudiants et d'auditeurs dans le monde qui se compte en millions et qui rivalisent en enseignement avec des enseignants partout sur notre petiote de planète !!! combien d'étudiants indiens vont et viennent sur la Terre ?? Ils nous jalousent pour notre liberté de mouvement!!! hihihi... allez manifester pour vos amis pour qu'enfin les hommes circulent aussi librement que le cash !!!!
Mais cette triste lamentation est INACCEPTABLE A MON SENS car le terme CANTONNER nous renvoit à l'immensité et à la diversité de cette population ...n'oublions pas que les indiens disposent de 12 langues sur leurs billets de banques et autour de 800 dialectes.(et nous qui nous disputons pour accepter d'autres cultures... Cocorico !! chantez le coq au sein de sa basse cours et non cacarico, d'accord, sinon cela chante faux... chantait il les deux pieds dans la merde ) )..bref..tout cela pour dire que si vous souhaitez vous déculturer ou rechercher de l'EXOTISME au sein de ce GRAND PAYS..ce n'est pas les petits villages, les villes, les jungles ou les bidonvilles qui manquent...
Perso, je me suis rendu deux fois en Inde pour six petits mois dans les années mi 90 et il ne faut plus chercher midi à quatorze heures...regardez l'immensité de l'univers et là, au lieu de se lamenter, on pourra tous se dire : on a FRANCHEMENT un grand bout de chemin à faire ( surtout après les commentaires ethno centristes de certains à l'issue de cette interlude tristement irréaliste)…
Un ami occidental cela fait chic !!! moi, cela me choque !!!... n'es tu pas plutot convaincue que se faire un "friend" en VRAI est plus sympa que sur facebook ??? Ouvres ton Shakra en profondeur , l'écrivain d'Ajmer!!!!
Ahhhh BHARAT !!! Trop puissante depuis la nuits des temps....Marco, Alexandre, Ibn Batuta, le gros cliché d'Indiana Dchones, Sindbad, Lord Mondbaten...
Comble de notre belle histoire des jeunes indiens pourront s'asseoir et m'annoncer avec joie : Aujourd'hui, l'Inde envoit une fusée pour un voyage vers Mars !!! Impossible n'est pas...
J'ai été impressionné par la participation active des blogueurs sur ce post en si peu de temps…tristement sentimental ; A cela je répondrais :
Wesh, mademoiselle, si vous vous êtes cantonnée à votre environnement direct (le tour de votre hotel), il est clair que vous serez en mesure de comparer dans un laps de temps aussi court ( 6 ans de 2006 à 2013) l'évolution imposée par la globalisation de la médiatisation et de la distribution : je m'explique d'une part nous observons les memes publicités et d'autres part, je suis en mesure de m'acheter une bouteille de coke aussi bien en bas de chez moi en moins de 5 minutes qu'au coin de la rue à Pushkar ou à Ajmer !! Corporate Strategy : Think Global , Act de moins en moins Local...puisqu'il ya une homogénéisation des comportements....
Mais que faisaient les Hippies en leur temps...ils ne faisaient qu'écouter les Vibes "Tendance" et aller se dorer le cerveau dans les lieux "In" de l'époque..est ce que cela ne faisait il pas plus bling bling qu'aujourd'hui ??? "Ouais, je reviens de Kathmandou !!! enfin je suppose pour une grosse grande majorité..Waouh, le GROS MYTHE qui s'effondre !!
Mais que faisaient les Indiens en ce temps là ???, Ils n'avaient pas encore tous la television pour capter ce qui se faisait de mieux à cette époque !!! Par pitié, Non...je crois que vous nêtes absolument mais absolument pas dans le mouvement.. Allez rencontrer nos nouvelles générations en France ou dans le monde... Ils sont connectés et les questions tu portes quoi , tu écoutes quoi ou tu suis tes cours sur quels blogs... c'est cela le vrai Mouvement !!!
Le saviez vous ??? un prof de math bengalais à une communauté d'étudiants et d'auditeurs dans le monde qui se compte en millions et qui rivalisent en enseignement avec des enseignants partout sur notre petiote de planète !!! combien d'étudiants indiens vont et viennent sur la Terre ?? Ils nous jalousent pour notre liberté de mouvement!!! hihihi... allez manifester pour vos amis pour qu'enfin les hommes circulent aussi librement que le cash !!!!
Mais cette triste lamentation est INACCEPTABLE A MON SENS car le terme CANTONNER nous renvoit à l'immensité et à la diversité de cette population ...n'oublions pas que les indiens disposent de 12 langues sur leurs billets de banques et autour de 800 dialectes.(et nous qui nous disputons pour accepter d'autres cultures... Cocorico !! chantez le coq au sein de sa basse cours et non cacarico, d'accord, sinon cela chante faux... chantait il les deux pieds dans la merde ) )..bref..tout cela pour dire que si vous souhaitez vous déculturer ou rechercher de l'EXOTISME au sein de ce GRAND PAYS..ce n'est pas les petits villages, les villes, les jungles ou les bidonvilles qui manquent...
Perso, je me suis rendu deux fois en Inde pour six petits mois dans les années mi 90 et il ne faut plus chercher midi à quatorze heures...regardez l'immensité de l'univers et là, au lieu de se lamenter, on pourra tous se dire : on a FRANCHEMENT un grand bout de chemin à faire ( surtout après les commentaires ethno centristes de certains à l'issue de cette interlude tristement irréaliste)…
Un ami occidental cela fait chic !!! moi, cela me choque !!!... n'es tu pas plutot convaincue que se faire un "friend" en VRAI est plus sympa que sur facebook ??? Ouvres ton Shakra en profondeur , l'écrivain d'Ajmer!!!!
Ahhhh BHARAT !!! Trop puissante depuis la nuits des temps....Marco, Alexandre, Ibn Batuta, le gros cliché d'Indiana Dchones, Sindbad, Lord Mondbaten...
Comble de notre belle histoire des jeunes indiens pourront s'asseoir et m'annoncer avec joie : Aujourd'hui, l'Inde envoit une fusée pour un voyage vers Mars !!! Impossible n'est pas...
J'ai (...) été frappé par (...) l'élégance des touristes indiens. (...) ... Ils nous ressemblent beaucoup (...) c'est plutôt positif.

Touristes indiens à Goa en Mars 2008
Comme quoi on voyage peut être tous sur la même planète mais on n'est pas tous du même monde 🤪
Par contre tout à fait d'accord avec vous pour trouver les chiens indiens (...) adorables et par contre là j'ajouterais "élégants" 😕
Indore, Janvier 2012

Touristes indiens à Goa en Mars 2008
Comme quoi on voyage peut être tous sur la même planète mais on n'est pas tous du même monde 🤪
Par contre tout à fait d'accord avec vous pour trouver les chiens indiens (...) adorables et par contre là j'ajouterais "élégants" 😕
Indore, Janvier 2012"Nous ne sommes plus une communauté d'être humains qui se parlent mais un conglomérat de grappes de consommateurs en niches, séparés les uns des autres par des obsessions diverses et innombrables. Nous sommes de l'ère de la désintégration." Marc Moulin (1942-2008) in Humoeurs
Par contre tout à fait d'accord avec vous pour trouver les chiens indiens (...) adorables
moué......autant ils sont adorables voire indifférents de jour, la nuit c'est une autre paire de manches 🤪
moué......autant ils sont adorables voire indifférents de jour, la nuit c'est une autre paire de manches 🤪
Quittons l'UE, l'euro et l'OTAN - vite !
... la nuit c'est une autre paire de manches 🤪
A qui le dites-vous 😮
J'ai déjà eu quelques nuits ruinées en Inde à cause de ces #*$%" quadrupèdes 🏴☠️
Mon antidote : en boucle dans les oreilles Who Let the Dogs out?
A qui le dites-vous 😮
J'ai déjà eu quelques nuits ruinées en Inde à cause de ces #*$%" quadrupèdes 🏴☠️
Mon antidote : en boucle dans les oreilles Who Let the Dogs out?
"Nous ne sommes plus une communauté d'être humains qui se parlent mais un conglomérat de grappes de consommateurs en niches, séparés les uns des autres par des obsessions diverses et innombrables. Nous sommes de l'ère de la désintégration." Marc Moulin (1942-2008) in Humoeurs
Oui, et je ne parlais même pas du bruit Mais de leur comportement de loups en meutes quand ils vous bloquent au coin d'une rue et vous empêchent d'avancer en vous montrant des crocs jusqu'aux oreilles .
Il m'est arrivé de rebrousser chemin à quelques dizaines de mètres de ma guesthouse et de devoir aller prendre un rickshaw pour rentrer 🤪
Quittons l'UE, l'euro et l'OTAN - vite !
Où ça ?
"Nous ne sommes plus une communauté d'être humains qui se parlent mais un conglomérat de grappes de consommateurs en niches, séparés les uns des autres par des obsessions diverses et innombrables. Nous sommes de l'ère de la désintégration." Marc Moulin (1942-2008) in Humoeurs
A jaisalmer, a Pushkar, a Bénarès ..... Cela ne se produit qu'une fois la nuit tombée . D'ailleurs on lit souvent que les chiens en Inde sont les rois de la nuit .
Quittons l'UE, l'euro et l'OTAN - vite !
J'ai vu mieux. 😐 Il est vrai que les tiens ressemblent aux pires d'entre-nous... 🙂
(Je renonce à insérer des photos, ce site est archaïque...)
Bernarddd
Salut !
1 franc valait 6 roupies mais pas 1 euro , non ?
alors, ton trip en Inde ?
CDT
1 franc valait 6 roupies mais pas 1 euro , non ?
alors, ton trip en Inde ?
CDT
Bonsoir Visitation,
Je suis d'accord avec toi sur le fait que le poids de la religion va s'affaiblir en Inde. Et je pense que c'est une bonne chose. Les institutions qui fonctionnent le mieux en Inde sont celles où le poids de la religion est le plus faible (Chemin de fer, armée, ...). Mais mon opinion sur l'avenir de l'Inde diffère: je pense que l'Inde sera plus agréable dans 50 ans. Hors catastrophe climatique ou nucléaire évidemment. La croissance démographique est en train de ralentir, il y une prise de conscience des dangers de la pollution, du manque d'eau, de la nécessité de sauvegarder des espaces naturels (et de les enrichir), de sauvegarder la patrimoine architectural et culturel. Je pense que l'Inde dans 50 ans commencera à ressembler à ce qu'elle était lorsqu'elle attirait les conquérants étrangers (afghans, persans, anglais, ...). Et qu'il y aura, bien évidemment, de beaux espaces de méditation et de réflexions, comme dans tous les pays bien organisés et conscient de la valeur des choses... Bernarddd
Je suis d'accord avec toi sur le fait que le poids de la religion va s'affaiblir en Inde. Et je pense que c'est une bonne chose. Les institutions qui fonctionnent le mieux en Inde sont celles où le poids de la religion est le plus faible (Chemin de fer, armée, ...). Mais mon opinion sur l'avenir de l'Inde diffère: je pense que l'Inde sera plus agréable dans 50 ans. Hors catastrophe climatique ou nucléaire évidemment. La croissance démographique est en train de ralentir, il y une prise de conscience des dangers de la pollution, du manque d'eau, de la nécessité de sauvegarder des espaces naturels (et de les enrichir), de sauvegarder la patrimoine architectural et culturel. Je pense que l'Inde dans 50 ans commencera à ressembler à ce qu'elle était lorsqu'elle attirait les conquérants étrangers (afghans, persans, anglais, ...). Et qu'il y aura, bien évidemment, de beaux espaces de méditation et de réflexions, comme dans tous les pays bien organisés et conscient de la valeur des choses... Bernarddd
Bonjour,
J'aime bien ta vision de l'Inde dans 50 ans , même si 50 ans c'est beaucoup trop loin pour imaginer quelque chose ...enfin une belle vision de l'Inde du futur ....il vaut peut-être mieux la faire un peu moins belle de l'extérieur, histoire de ne pas attirer de nouveaux conquérants 😛 ....
J'aime bien ta vision de l'Inde dans 50 ans , même si 50 ans c'est beaucoup trop loin pour imaginer quelque chose ...enfin une belle vision de l'Inde du futur ....il vaut peut-être mieux la faire un peu moins belle de l'extérieur, histoire de ne pas attirer de nouveaux conquérants 😛 ....
"La vie est un voyage qui se vit au présent ou jamais ...."
Bonsoir Andreyves,
Je dirais plutôt: aryas au nord, dravidiens au sud. On peut remplacer aryas (si on a des complexes) par indo-germains d'Asie. En gros le bloc de populations qui comprend les iraniens, géorgiens, arméniens, kurdes, pachtounes et tadjiks. Des cousins à nous. On peut refuser le terme de "race", mais on est bien obligé de constater que les habitants du Penjab diffèrent de ceux du Kerala. D'ailleurs même certains des pires théoriciens du racialisme national-socialiste admettaient l'inconstance de la "race"... Quant au meilleur gardien desdites "races", je crois que le système des castes remporte la palme: quoi de mieux pour empêcher les gens de se mélanger. Là où l'islam favorise le mixe des population, l'hindouisme l'empêche. Bon voyage Bernarddd
Je dirais plutôt: aryas au nord, dravidiens au sud. On peut remplacer aryas (si on a des complexes) par indo-germains d'Asie. En gros le bloc de populations qui comprend les iraniens, géorgiens, arméniens, kurdes, pachtounes et tadjiks. Des cousins à nous. On peut refuser le terme de "race", mais on est bien obligé de constater que les habitants du Penjab diffèrent de ceux du Kerala. D'ailleurs même certains des pires théoriciens du racialisme national-socialiste admettaient l'inconstance de la "race"... Quant au meilleur gardien desdites "races", je crois que le système des castes remporte la palme: quoi de mieux pour empêcher les gens de se mélanger. Là où l'islam favorise le mixe des population, l'hindouisme l'empêche. Bon voyage Bernarddd
Pour l'unicité de l'espèce humaine. Les Indiens sont, finalement, comme nous. Ils ne sont pas une espèce différente, définitivement engluée dans l'abominable système des castes, les différenciations sociales abyssales et abonnés aux émeutes religieuses... La condition de la femme s'améliore, les médias modernes jouent un rôle dans l'évolution des mentalités, les castes mollissent, on se soucie des plus pauvres. Je trouve ça bien. Même si cela nuit un peu à la "couleur locale" chère aux voyageurs. Et cela permet à l'Inde de mettre en avant des aspects de sa culture que le conservatisme eut mené à la destruction: comme son patrimoine architectural, par exemple.
Bonne soirée,
Bernarddd
Bernarddd
Bonsoir Moushika, Et je terminerais en disant ceci : il me semble qu'il existe aujourd'hui cinq forces qui contraignent l'Inde à évoluer. Et à évoluer vite. Les Indiens vivant à l'étranger, les ambitions onusiennes des politiciens indiens, la Chine, les milieux industriels et militaires indiens, les naxalites. Les Indiens qui vivent en Amérique, en Europe, en Afrique, les descendants d'anciens émigrants indiens dans les Caraïbes ou en Afrique, supportent mal le désordre et la saleté des espaces publiques en Inde. Cela les gène et les humilie. Ils le font savoir et cela met la pression sur les politiciens indiens. (Voir le Terminal 3 d'Indira Ghandi). New Delhi a toujours rêvé de s'asseoir parmi les premières places à l'ONU. C'est impossible si le pays continue à avoir un indice de développement humain si bas. Piégé par son ambition, le gouvernement indien doit agir. La Chine est devenue la grande rivale de l'Inde en Asie. Et elle pousse rapidement ses pions diplomatiques et stratégiques ...autour de l'Inde. Après s'être emparée de Tibet, elle a lié des liens solides avec trois ex-parties de l'ancien Raj britannique : la Birmanie, le Sri-Lanka et le Pakistan. Ce qui encercle l'Inde. Et angoisse les militaires indiens. Et la Chine renforce rapidement et puissamment sa marine. On en est au point où la Chine pourrait s'offrir le luxe d'une guerre indirecte avec l'Inde sans même avoir à intervenir directement, en poussant le Pakistan. (Comme elle l'a fait contre les USA en soutenant le Nord Vietnam.) Et cela remet une pression supplémentaire sur les politiciens indiens. Car cela implique de suivre le rythme du développement économique chinois, du réarmement chinois, donc il faut de l'argent, de la technologie, et donc prendre en compte les plaintes des investisseurs internationaux sur le manque d'infrastructures du pays, de résoudre les problèmes d'eau, de pénurie énergétique, de pollution, ... Et pour finir, il y a les naxalites. Les communistes indiens en rébellion. En réponse à la violence religieuse et social exercée depuis des millénaires sur les basses castes, les tribaux et les populations rurales, cela devait finir par arriver. Si la membrane psychologique qui semble protéger les jeunes cerveaux indiens du virus révolutionnaire cède, le pays pourrait connaître un épisode khmère. Voila. Donc, la vache sacrée orgueilleuse qui symbolise l'administration et la classe politique indienne n'est guère tentée par le progrès, mais ceux qui sont prêt à lui tordre la queue sont de plus en plus nombreux. L'Inde va évoluer. Et elle sera plus vivable dans 50 ans.
Bonne route. Bernarddd
Je suis en partie d'accord avec ton analyse. Tu as cependant oublié l'un des grands fléaux de l'Inde, qui freine son évolution : la corruption à tous les niveaux.
Bonsoir Moushika, Et je terminerais en disant ceci : il me semble qu'il existe aujourd'hui cinq forces qui contraignent l'Inde à évoluer. Et à évoluer vite. Les Indiens vivant à l'étranger, les ambitions onusiennes des politiciens indiens, la Chine, les milieux industriels et militaires indiens, les naxalites. Les Indiens qui vivent en Amérique, en Europe, en Afrique, les descendants d'anciens émigrants indiens dans les Caraïbes ou en Afrique, supportent mal le désordre et la saleté des espaces publiques en Inde. Cela les gène et les humilie. Ils le font savoir et cela met la pression sur les politiciens indiens. (Voir le Terminal 3 d'Indira Ghandi). New Delhi a toujours rêvé de s'asseoir parmi les premières places à l'ONU. C'est impossible si le pays continue à avoir un indice de développement humain si bas. Piégé par son ambition, le gouvernement indien doit agir. La Chine est devenue la grande rivale de l'Inde en Asie. Et elle pousse rapidement ses pions diplomatiques et stratégiques ...autour de l'Inde. Après s'être emparée de Tibet, elle a lié des liens solides avec trois ex-parties de l'ancien Raj britannique : la Birmanie, le Sri-Lanka et le Pakistan. Ce qui encercle l'Inde. Et angoisse les militaires indiens. Et la Chine renforce rapidement et puissamment sa marine. On en est au point où la Chine pourrait s'offrir le luxe d'une guerre indirecte avec l'Inde sans même avoir à intervenir directement, en poussant le Pakistan. (Comme elle l'a fait contre les USA en soutenant le Nord Vietnam.) Et cela remet une pression supplémentaire sur les politiciens indiens. Car cela implique de suivre le rythme du développement économique chinois, du réarmement chinois, donc il faut de l'argent, de la technologie, et donc prendre en compte les plaintes des investisseurs internationaux sur le manque d'infrastructures du pays, de résoudre les problèmes d'eau, de pénurie énergétique, de pollution, ... Et pour finir, il y a les naxalites. Les communistes indiens en rébellion. En réponse à la violence religieuse et social exercée depuis des millénaires sur les basses castes, les tribaux et les populations rurales, cela devait finir par arriver. Si la membrane psychologique qui semble protéger les jeunes cerveaux indiens du virus révolutionnaire cède, le pays pourrait connaître un épisode khmère. Voila. Donc, la vache sacrée orgueilleuse qui symbolise l'administration et la classe politique indienne n'est guère tentée par le progrès, mais ceux qui sont prêt à lui tordre la queue sont de plus en plus nombreux. L'Inde va évoluer. Et elle sera plus vivable dans 50 ans.
Bonne route. Bernarddd
Tu nous dis tout ça comme ça et tout cela d'une traite et sans respirer .
Pas mal . 😉
Tu nous dis tout ça comme ça et tout cela d'une traite et sans respirer .
Pas mal . 😉
Petit tour en inde après 8 ans d'absence. Certes le pays évolue (heureusement) mais je n'ai pas noté de grands changements. Ce qui m'a le plus marqué : omniprésence des tablettes et téléphones tactiles et niveau de l'hygiène en hausse. J'ai été scotché de constater la propreté des chiottes dans certains endroits (monuments, aéroport, etc). Le parc automobile est également en bien meilleur état, tout comme les routes. Que dire du métro de Delhi? ultra moderne et propre.
Ca fait plaisir pour les habitants que les infrastructures s'améliorent.
Ces changements sont de l'ordre du matériel, il suffit de gratter un peu la surface pour retrouver les fondamentaux de la société indienne. Je n'ai pas ressenti le fait que certains indiens soient plus arrogants qu’auparavant. Souvent ils te scrutent avec un regard noir, suffit de leur faire un grand sourire et leur visage s'illumine. C'est pas automatique, il y a des c*ns partout.
J'étais dans le rajasthan pendant et après Diwalli, et il y avait foule de touristes indiens et cela a été très sympa (à moins d'être agoraphobe).
Bref, je pense que le message d'origine résulte plus de l'humeur de son auteur. Il m'est arrivé également de ne pas être "en phase" avec ce pays et ses habitants. C'est un pays exigeant qui secoue nos convictions. C'est un peu l'école du zen, et si on se laisse aller à juger, c'est la porte ouverte aux désillusions.
Bref, je pense que le message d'origine résulte plus de l'humeur de son auteur. Il m'est arrivé également de ne pas être "en phase" avec ce pays et ses habitants. C'est un pays exigeant qui secoue nos convictions. C'est un peu l'école du zen, et si on se laisse aller à juger, c'est la porte ouverte aux désillusions.
Bonjour Milou2008,
Oui, c'est vrai. La corruption galopante peut tout ruiner. Mais dans ce cas, les conséquences seront graves. La Chine satellisera les Etats proches de la ceinture himalayenne (Bouthan, Assam, ...) Le Pakistan (enfin...son armée) récupérera le Cachemire, l'Inde du sud fera sécession, le réchauffement climatique et le manque d'eau affaibliront l'agriculture indienne (surtout dans la plaine gangétique), causant le retour de certaines formes de gène alimentaire, les masses urbaines (récemment venues de la campagne) provoqueront des troubles, les investisseurs fuiront le pays, les naxalites mèneront une "révolution culturelle" dans certaines zones du centre du pays, ... Un beau b...el. L'Inde, par son refus de contraindre sa natalité, évolue sur la lame du rasoir. Elle peut tomber du bon côté, ou du mauvais. Bon voyage, Bernarddd
Oui, c'est vrai. La corruption galopante peut tout ruiner. Mais dans ce cas, les conséquences seront graves. La Chine satellisera les Etats proches de la ceinture himalayenne (Bouthan, Assam, ...) Le Pakistan (enfin...son armée) récupérera le Cachemire, l'Inde du sud fera sécession, le réchauffement climatique et le manque d'eau affaibliront l'agriculture indienne (surtout dans la plaine gangétique), causant le retour de certaines formes de gène alimentaire, les masses urbaines (récemment venues de la campagne) provoqueront des troubles, les investisseurs fuiront le pays, les naxalites mèneront une "révolution culturelle" dans certaines zones du centre du pays, ... Un beau b...el. L'Inde, par son refus de contraindre sa natalité, évolue sur la lame du rasoir. Elle peut tomber du bon côté, ou du mauvais. Bon voyage, Bernarddd
La corruption galopante peut tout ruiner. Mais dans ce cas, les conséquences seront graves. La Chine satellisera les Etats proches de la ceinture himalayenne (Bouthan, Assam, ...) Le Pakistan (enfin...son armée) récupérera le Cachemire, l'Inde du sud fera sécession, le réchauffement climatique et le manque d'eau affaibliront l'agriculture indienne (surtout dans la plaine gangétique), causant le retour de certaines formes de gène alimentaire, les masses urbaines (récemment venues de la campagne) provoqueront des troubles, les investisseurs fuiront le pays, les naxalites mèneront une "révolution culturelle" dans certaines zones du centre du pays, ... Un beau b...el. L'Inde, par son refus de contraindre sa natalité, évolue sur la lame du rasoir.
C'est fou tout ce qu'on peut voir dans une boule de cristal!
Elle peut tomber du bon côté, ou du mauvais.
Ah ça me rassure!
C'est fou tout ce qu'on peut voir dans une boule de cristal!
Elle peut tomber du bon côté, ou du mauvais.
Ah ça me rassure!
Bonjour Djalma,
Si on doit écrire un scénario catastrophique pour l'Inde, ce sont les ingrédients les plus probables. On pourrait spéculer sur divers maux supplémentaires possibles (virus, épizootie, secte nouvelle, affrontement nucléaire, ...) mais les ingrédients déjà cités sont ...éprouvés? La rivalité Chine-Inde dans l'Himalaya, le séparatisme dravidien, l'interminable crise du Cachemire, la volatilité des investissements internationaux (très visible au moment même où j'écris ces lignes), le réchauffement climatique et son effet sur les glaciers himalayens, source des eaux nécessaires à l'agriculture dans la plaine gangétique surpeuplée, le gonflement urbain, les émeutes inter-religieuses (Gujarat), les 40% de districts ruraux actuellement contaminés par une guérilla séparatiste, naxalite, islamiste... Bon, je ne suis pas de nature pessimiste, l'Inde regorge de bonne volonté, l'instinct de vie est plus fort que l'instinct de mort, et donc je ne crois pas à ce scénario. Mais si les politiciens indiens ne font pas ce qu'ils doivent faire, c'est bel et bien ce qui leur tombera sur le coin de la figure. Bon voyage, Bernarddd
Si on doit écrire un scénario catastrophique pour l'Inde, ce sont les ingrédients les plus probables. On pourrait spéculer sur divers maux supplémentaires possibles (virus, épizootie, secte nouvelle, affrontement nucléaire, ...) mais les ingrédients déjà cités sont ...éprouvés? La rivalité Chine-Inde dans l'Himalaya, le séparatisme dravidien, l'interminable crise du Cachemire, la volatilité des investissements internationaux (très visible au moment même où j'écris ces lignes), le réchauffement climatique et son effet sur les glaciers himalayens, source des eaux nécessaires à l'agriculture dans la plaine gangétique surpeuplée, le gonflement urbain, les émeutes inter-religieuses (Gujarat), les 40% de districts ruraux actuellement contaminés par une guérilla séparatiste, naxalite, islamiste... Bon, je ne suis pas de nature pessimiste, l'Inde regorge de bonne volonté, l'instinct de vie est plus fort que l'instinct de mort, et donc je ne crois pas à ce scénario. Mais si les politiciens indiens ne font pas ce qu'ils doivent faire, c'est bel et bien ce qui leur tombera sur le coin de la figure. Bon voyage, Bernarddd
Le plus gros danger pour l'Inde, comme pour bien d'autres pays, c'est sa dépendance totale à la finance anglo-saxonne .
On l'a vu cet été, dès que les USA retirent les capitaux qu'ils injectent à grand coups de planche à billet, le système s'effondre ( dégringolade de la roupie ) .
Le jour ou la crise des marchés et du système bancaire éclatera ( ce qui peut se produire du jour au lendemain ) l'économie indienne reculera très rapidement 20 ans en arrière . Avec 1,3 milliard d'habitants, le choc sera brutal .
Les ménages indiens qui en ont les moyens et qui ont compris cela achètent de l'or, toujours plus, malgré les taxes toujours plus contraignantes que leur impose le gouvernement .
Quittons l'UE, l'euro et l'OTAN - vite !
alors ton trip en Inde ?
Salut ! Ravie ! 🙂🙂🙂Pour le Rajasthan, par exception, j'étais en tour organisé (7 personnes seulement). Vu le kilométrage entre les sites, ça a permis de gagner beaucoup de temps. Et nous étions protégés du harcèlement commercial sur les sites par le guide, ouf 😉 !
Je me suis échappée du groupe 3 ou 4 fois pour voir la "vraie" vie de la rue, notamment au petit matin. Là, les relations sont super😏.
Oui, les touristes indiens abondent, notamment au Taj Mahal. Au début, c'étaient les vacances scolaires indiennes et le bruit dans les couloirs était parfois intenable dans les hôtels !🤪 Je suis contente pour eux que des millions d'autochtones aient enfin le niveau de vie pour faire du tourisme.
Juste après, j'ai embrayé sur Oman ... où il y a plein d'Indiens ! (+Pakistan, Bengladesh Sri Lanka). Pas trop dépaysée ...😏 A+
Salut ! Ravie ! 🙂🙂🙂Pour le Rajasthan, par exception, j'étais en tour organisé (7 personnes seulement). Vu le kilométrage entre les sites, ça a permis de gagner beaucoup de temps. Et nous étions protégés du harcèlement commercial sur les sites par le guide, ouf 😉 !
Je me suis échappée du groupe 3 ou 4 fois pour voir la "vraie" vie de la rue, notamment au petit matin. Là, les relations sont super😏.
Oui, les touristes indiens abondent, notamment au Taj Mahal. Au début, c'étaient les vacances scolaires indiennes et le bruit dans les couloirs était parfois intenable dans les hôtels !🤪 Je suis contente pour eux que des millions d'autochtones aient enfin le niveau de vie pour faire du tourisme.
Juste après, j'ai embrayé sur Oman ... où il y a plein d'Indiens ! (+Pakistan, Bengladesh Sri Lanka). Pas trop dépaysée ...😏 A+
Je me suis échappée du groupe 3 ou 4 fois pour voir la "vraie" vie de la rue, notamment au petit matin.
Dite-moi pas qu'c'est pas vrai ! Vous avez osé ! Quel courage !
Je suis contente pour eux que des millions d'autochtones aient enfin le niveau de vie pour faire du tourisme.
D'un point de vue personnel et totalement égoïste je préfèrais le temps - que les moins de vingt ans ne peuvent pas connaître - où les seuls "touristes" indiens étaient des pélerins.
Ils avaient leur circuit et les "touristes" occidentaux le leur.
On se croisait dans les temples ou sur le quai des gares.
Donc pas de portes qui claquent dans les hôtels comme ce fut encore le cas pour moi cette nuit à 1H30 🏴☠️🏴☠️
Oman ... où il y a plein d'Indiens ! (+Pakistan, Bengladesh Sri Lanka).
Juste des travailleurs émigrés exploités par des possesseurs de pétro-dollars
TousTerriens sur la même planète mais pas tous du même monde 😛
Dite-moi pas qu'c'est pas vrai ! Vous avez osé ! Quel courage !
Je suis contente pour eux que des millions d'autochtones aient enfin le niveau de vie pour faire du tourisme.
D'un point de vue personnel et totalement égoïste je préfèrais le temps - que les moins de vingt ans ne peuvent pas connaître - où les seuls "touristes" indiens étaient des pélerins.
Ils avaient leur circuit et les "touristes" occidentaux le leur.
On se croisait dans les temples ou sur le quai des gares.
Donc pas de portes qui claquent dans les hôtels comme ce fut encore le cas pour moi cette nuit à 1H30 🏴☠️🏴☠️
Oman ... où il y a plein d'Indiens ! (+Pakistan, Bengladesh Sri Lanka).
Juste des travailleurs émigrés exploités par des possesseurs de pétro-dollars
TousTerriens sur la même planète mais pas tous du même monde 😛
"Nous ne sommes plus une communauté d'être humains qui se parlent mais un conglomérat de grappes de consommateurs en niches, séparés les uns des autres par des obsessions diverses et innombrables. Nous sommes de l'ère de la désintégration." Marc Moulin (1942-2008) in Humoeurs
Bonjour Ragamuffin,
Je ne sais pas si le fait existait au temps béni des pélerins sages et mystiques, mais les hôtels indiens, de nos jours, abritent une créature, certe charmante, mais un peu casse-pied: la jolie petite fille de bonne famille indienne qui actionne lourdement la sonnette de votre chambre ... juste pour savoir qui dors là. La sermonner n'a aucun effet. Bon voyage,
Je ne sais pas si le fait existait au temps béni des pélerins sages et mystiques, mais les hôtels indiens, de nos jours, abritent une créature, certe charmante, mais un peu casse-pied: la jolie petite fille de bonne famille indienne qui actionne lourdement la sonnette de votre chambre ... juste pour savoir qui dors là. La sermonner n'a aucun effet. Bon voyage,
mais les hôtels indiens, de nos jours, abritent une créature, certe charmante, mais un peu casse-pied: la jolie petite fille de bonne famille indienne qui actionne lourdement la sonnette de votre chambre
Jamais eu ce genre de désagrément, vraiment pas de chance en ce qui vous concerne .
Jamais eu ce genre de désagrément, vraiment pas de chance en ce qui vous concerne .
Quittons l'UE, l'euro et l'OTAN - vite !
J'ai également croisé comme vous, alors que je m'aventurais à quelques pas de mon hôtel pour acheter des bibelots, quelques-uns de ces sauvages, et dans leur milieu naturel authentique en plus! Et je dois avouer qu'ils sont très sympathiques malgré leur pauvreté et leur hygiène. Ils m'interpellaient dans leur dialecte local "want rickshaw, want hotel, want marijuana", alors je leur ai distribué quelques pièces pour établir le contact. Ce fut un grand moment, mémorable!
want marijuana
Tu dois avoir une drôle de tête, toi ! 😄
Jamais eu une telle proposition en Inde.
Tu dois avoir une drôle de tête, toi ! 😄
Jamais eu une telle proposition en Inde.
want marijuana
Tu dois avoir une drôle de tête, toi ! 😄
Jamais eu une telle proposition en Inde.
C'est que tu dois avoir une tête pas drôle, toi ! 😄
Tu dois avoir une drôle de tête, toi ! 😄
Jamais eu une telle proposition en Inde.
C'est que tu dois avoir une tête pas drôle, toi ! 😄
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I know in advance that what I'm about to say here won't please everyone, but honesty is a virtue, isn't it?
Here's the thing: for many years now, I've noticed a habit in French-speaking posts of using abbreviations left and right, as if to show that we're "in the know." Let me explain with a few examples:
- - In discussions about Peru, I see "Aguas" for "Aguas Calientes." And if it's Mexico, well, it'll be "Aguas" for "Aguascalientes"!
- - For Guatemala, "travelers" will say "Guaté." Come on, saying "Guatemalas" would maybe be the undeniable sign that you know nothing about the country???
- - Back from Indonesia, many will talk about how familiar they've become with the country's language: "bahasa." Of course, everyone will know what you're talking about, but it still gets on my nerves because the language (one of the many languages) of Indonesia is "bahasa Indonesia." "Bahasa" actually means "language," and you'll find this word of Indian origin ‘Bhāṣā’ (it's Sanskrit originally) outside Indonesia too: in Thailand, for example, any language will be "phasa" as in "phasa thai" (official Thai), "phasa isan" (what's spoken in northeastern Thailand), "phasa angkrit" = English, etc.
Am I an incorrigible nitpicker? Maybe. But I'd also find it ridiculous if a foreigner came and told me they visited "Monte" during their trip to France, when it was actually Monte Carlo.
I read a lot in English and don't think I've encountered such a habit among English speakers.
Hi everyone,
Who’d like to share their best and worst travel memories in a few lines? For me, it’s watching the TAJ MAHAL at sunrise and getting chased by dogs at the top of a mountain pass in GREECE on the way back from ISTANBUL. THANKS GUYS
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Good evening everyone,
This is my 15,000th post, and it's a message I would have preferred never to write.
Patrick—Yangguizi—won’t be returning from his trek in Uganda. His health betrayed him in the mountains.
Like many of you, I laughed until I couldn’t anymore at his travel stories. I met him in Shanghai, then in Istanbul... We scoured restaurants—he was an incredible expert on world cuisines. We relived Korea, China. Always brilliant, so sharp, so funny, so down-to-earth. Being even a little bit his friend was something to be proud of. I think I envied him.
Patrick is still out there, of course... He found his happiness running across the world. He’s on his path. He never doubted that "the traveler doesn’t even know if he’ll return one day."
Not sure this would’ve suited him, but his departure devastates me.
Alright, Farewell, you foreign devil. Safe travels.
Michel
This is my 15,000th post, and it's a message I would have preferred never to write.
Patrick—Yangguizi—won’t be returning from his trek in Uganda. His health betrayed him in the mountains.
Like many of you, I laughed until I couldn’t anymore at his travel stories. I met him in Shanghai, then in Istanbul... We scoured restaurants—he was an incredible expert on world cuisines. We relived Korea, China. Always brilliant, so sharp, so funny, so down-to-earth. Being even a little bit his friend was something to be proud of. I think I envied him.
Patrick is still out there, of course... He found his happiness running across the world. He’s on his path. He never doubted that "the traveler doesn’t even know if he’ll return one day."
Not sure this would’ve suited him, but his departure devastates me.
Alright, Farewell, you foreign devil. Safe travels.
Michel
hello to all travelers with their eyes wide open to the desert...
I’ve always wondered what I was "doing" on this earth. And why my father, who died a few months after I was born—a former youngest French resistance fighter—joined the First Saharan Motorized Company in Atar and spent the rest of his life repairing army engines in Algeria, Mauritania, Senegal, Mali (which didn’t exist under that name back then), Morocco, and finally Algeria, where my mother was born and raised. (Believe me, it’s not "cool" being the child of a soldier in a country occupied by France, and even less so the child of a "pied-noir.") Of course, I never got an answer: the dead don’t talk, and the army doesn’t either. But here’s the thing—I had photos... So naturally, one day I hit the road. I wanted to see, to understand. It’s thanks to VF that I was able to do a little research on crossing the Morocco-Mauritania border, and I’m grateful to its members, just as I’m grateful to all those who welcomed me on the road for 14 years. For the past few weeks, I’ve been wondering if I should talk about this or not... It turns out the Mauritanians changed my life by asking for my help... And that started as early as February 2012... (Did I owe them something? No answer to that question.) Ah, the irony—they saw me coming. But when you’re handed sick children and begged to do something, what would you have done? I’d worked in a hospital, so I knew a bit about the rules to follow. I didn’t hesitate. And well, over all these years, I met doctors, surgeons, and together we organized care, evacuations of children, training for surgeons—even trying to stop children from having to travel outside their country. It was never easy. I’d like to thank those who supported us, as well as *La Chaîne de l’Espoir*, *La Fondation Face au Monde*, and everyone who built bridges between our two countries. Unfortunately, despite the constant efforts of Mauritanian doctors and surgeons, some children couldn’t be helped in time. Today, I want to talk about four siblings—orphans of their mother—suffering from congenital glaucoma causing irreversible blindness. Their case was entrusted to me in 2020, just weeks before the big lockdown. We couldn’t do anything for them then, but when their father asked me for a gift, I rushed to my computer and wrote a story. Through a tale, the children take a great journey, explore their country, and fulfill a dream. I never thought this book would be published—it was, in 2023. This book pays tribute to Mauritania. It’s a message for those who know nothing about the hardships of life there, carrying both the harshness and beauty of an immense desert where you can travel by 4x4, bike, on foot, or by camel in complete safety. It bears witness to the kindness of Mauritanians toward travelers. As a woman traveling alone in my vehicle—a now-rusted old Mercedes that no longer runs—I had the most beautiful encounters of my life there (I’ve seen other parts of the world...). The blind children of Choum, Atar, Nouadhibou, and Nouakchott will forever be in my heart. Volunteer readers transcribed the book into a free audio version for the visually impaired. It’s available in sound libraries in France, the *Fondation Valentin Haüy*, and the Swiss Romande library. I made my last trip to Mauritania in my old 4x4 to distribute the book everywhere, especially to its heroes and the school for the visually impaired in Nouakchott. After that, I thought it was time to close the chapter because I no longer have the means or the strength to travel. My publishers chose this title for it: *The Blue Eyes of the Desert*. This publication helped a mission of Swiss volunteer ophthalmologists come to operate on glaucomas in Mauritania. I’m thrilled because they come back every year! This adventure is ending, yes—everything must come to an end—but ultimately, it was born here, on the VF site!! So yes, I had to say it: THANK YOU!!!!!
I’ve always wondered what I was "doing" on this earth. And why my father, who died a few months after I was born—a former youngest French resistance fighter—joined the First Saharan Motorized Company in Atar and spent the rest of his life repairing army engines in Algeria, Mauritania, Senegal, Mali (which didn’t exist under that name back then), Morocco, and finally Algeria, where my mother was born and raised. (Believe me, it’s not "cool" being the child of a soldier in a country occupied by France, and even less so the child of a "pied-noir.") Of course, I never got an answer: the dead don’t talk, and the army doesn’t either. But here’s the thing—I had photos... So naturally, one day I hit the road. I wanted to see, to understand. It’s thanks to VF that I was able to do a little research on crossing the Morocco-Mauritania border, and I’m grateful to its members, just as I’m grateful to all those who welcomed me on the road for 14 years. For the past few weeks, I’ve been wondering if I should talk about this or not... It turns out the Mauritanians changed my life by asking for my help... And that started as early as February 2012... (Did I owe them something? No answer to that question.) Ah, the irony—they saw me coming. But when you’re handed sick children and begged to do something, what would you have done? I’d worked in a hospital, so I knew a bit about the rules to follow. I didn’t hesitate. And well, over all these years, I met doctors, surgeons, and together we organized care, evacuations of children, training for surgeons—even trying to stop children from having to travel outside their country. It was never easy. I’d like to thank those who supported us, as well as *La Chaîne de l’Espoir*, *La Fondation Face au Monde*, and everyone who built bridges between our two countries. Unfortunately, despite the constant efforts of Mauritanian doctors and surgeons, some children couldn’t be helped in time. Today, I want to talk about four siblings—orphans of their mother—suffering from congenital glaucoma causing irreversible blindness. Their case was entrusted to me in 2020, just weeks before the big lockdown. We couldn’t do anything for them then, but when their father asked me for a gift, I rushed to my computer and wrote a story. Through a tale, the children take a great journey, explore their country, and fulfill a dream. I never thought this book would be published—it was, in 2023. This book pays tribute to Mauritania. It’s a message for those who know nothing about the hardships of life there, carrying both the harshness and beauty of an immense desert where you can travel by 4x4, bike, on foot, or by camel in complete safety. It bears witness to the kindness of Mauritanians toward travelers. As a woman traveling alone in my vehicle—a now-rusted old Mercedes that no longer runs—I had the most beautiful encounters of my life there (I’ve seen other parts of the world...). The blind children of Choum, Atar, Nouadhibou, and Nouakchott will forever be in my heart. Volunteer readers transcribed the book into a free audio version for the visually impaired. It’s available in sound libraries in France, the *Fondation Valentin Haüy*, and the Swiss Romande library. I made my last trip to Mauritania in my old 4x4 to distribute the book everywhere, especially to its heroes and the school for the visually impaired in Nouakchott. After that, I thought it was time to close the chapter because I no longer have the means or the strength to travel. My publishers chose this title for it: *The Blue Eyes of the Desert*. This publication helped a mission of Swiss volunteer ophthalmologists come to operate on glaucomas in Mauritania. I’m thrilled because they come back every year! This adventure is ending, yes—everything must come to an end—but ultimately, it was born here, on the VF site!! So yes, I had to say it: THANK YOU!!!!!
Hi everyone,
I’m Loulou, a French expat who’s been living in Southeast Asia for about fifteen years, currently in Phnom Penh, Cambodia. A passionate walker at heart, I’ve trekked in Nepal (Thorung La, Mardi Himal), India, Vietnam, and I’m still planning new hikes (Char Dham, Langtang, Annapurna).
I’ve just published my first travel journal, recounting three months of walking and encounters across India. A portion of the sales goes to an educational center I support in Kep, for children whose parents work in the salt marshes.
I’m also working on a second book about Nepal with a musician friend, focusing on the Mardi Himal trek—two independent perspectives on the same journey.
Happy to swap stories with you about the Himalayas, India, Southeast Asia, or just the urge to hit the road and walk far from home.
Safe travels,
Loulou
Hi! It was totally by chance that I stumbled upon VoyageForum (an ad online and a story lol), and I’ve been reading some really old posts from 2011 about Thai massage schools—discussions on how to get by, accommodation, prices, etc. It reminded me of my own experience: I kept things simple by staying with a local family during my entire trip. I only shared all the expenses with them, which, I’ll admit, was super cheap… and I often traveled with them, which naturally opened a lot of doors for me. To start, at the school in Salaya, my Thai friend immediately connected me with Teacher Phong (the school’s mentor and teacher of teachers, a former monk). I was supposed to join a group session with other foreigners, but for some reason I don’t know, I got two days of private lessons for free with this expert… incredible! And on top of that, he loved France! It was an amazing experience. I "discovered" massage by chance—the Thai family just told me: "Try it, you’ll see!" (I’d had a pretty intense massage in the capital before 😅… but the next day, I felt unbelievably great!))
Every morning, I’d take a taxi (chosen by the Thai family at prices that beat all the competition) to this school—I’ve forgotten the name of the little village now… right in the heart of the countryside. Then, in the evenings, I’d keep practicing massage on all the family members… and they’d teach me Thai at the same time!))
Since then, I’ve practiced a bit, with lots of positive feedback. Following Teacher Phong’s advice—he thought my pressure was deep, firm, and precise—he strongly encouraged me to take this seriously.
I love Thailand so much. It’s a whole different way of living… and it’s a real blessing, even if I couldn’t live there full-time. Anyway, that was an unforgettable memory, and sometimes the Thai family and I still say hi—from 2011, 2013… right up to today!
Take care, everyone! !
Every morning, I’d take a taxi (chosen by the Thai family at prices that beat all the competition) to this school—I’ve forgotten the name of the little village now… right in the heart of the countryside. Then, in the evenings, I’d keep practicing massage on all the family members… and they’d teach me Thai at the same time!))
Since then, I’ve practiced a bit, with lots of positive feedback. Following Teacher Phong’s advice—he thought my pressure was deep, firm, and precise—he strongly encouraged me to take this seriously.
I love Thailand so much. It’s a whole different way of living… and it’s a real blessing, even if I couldn’t live there full-time. Anyway, that was an unforgettable memory, and sometimes the Thai family and I still say hi—from 2011, 2013… right up to today!
Take care, everyone! !
"It seems to me that poverty would be less painful in the sun" wrote Aznavour...
Not sure...😕 Who can prove that people in hot countries are happier than others? What do you think?
Is it better to live in Montpellier than in Lille? Are the Pygmies happier than the Inuit? Are Canadians less happy than the people of Louisiana? Are there more French expats in hot countries?
And your travels? Do you choose your destinations based on the climate? Do you rejoice when a bit of sunshine appears?
Not sure...😕 Who can prove that people in hot countries are happier than others? What do you think?
Is it better to live in Montpellier than in Lille? Are the Pygmies happier than the Inuit? Are Canadians less happy than the people of Louisiana? Are there more French expats in hot countries?
And your travels? Do you choose your destinations based on the climate? Do you rejoice when a bit of sunshine appears?
Hi everyone, just this once I’m not posting for a travel story, but to share a thought for Venezuela.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed. Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed. Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
hi there
I’d like to invite you to discover my coastal province in central Vietnam: Quang Ngai.
This year, my province has really improved its infrastructure—mountains, countryside, and sea are all authentic here.
No harassers or thieves, and no Russians either.
A local lunch costs around 1 €.
A *** hotel room is about 25 €, and you can find hotels right on My Khe Beach.
We have a specialty: *banh xeo*—10 crepes for just 1.5 €.
You can rent motorbikes to explore the province and maybe visit the many ethnic minorities.
I live here—I’m not selling anything, but I can help if needed (my father-in-law is a traditional Vietnamese doctor and he’s very skilled).
We're planning to spend a month in Vietnam. Is hiring a guide helpful?
Hi everyone! 😉
I’m Typhaine, 35 years old. Five years ago, I left France for a solo round-the-world trip—no planes, just a van, hitchhiking, cycling, and even a canoe in the Amazon! Today, I work as a naturalist guide in Argentine Patagonia.
Wherever I go, my compass stays the same: observing and photographing wildlife, which I deeply admire and respect.
My project: I’d love to share this experience through a sustainable, authentic, and immersive nature tourism initiative. But to build something meaningful, I need to understand how other nature enthusiasts experience their own adventures.
If you:
Are over 20 years old
Have a true passion for Nature
Have already taken at least one trip lasting more than 3 nights (in your country or abroad) in your life
Then... would you have 5 to 7 minutes to help me by filling out this questionnaire? 🙂 »» https://forms.gle/y74ckkvN9TjrougLA
Promise: I’m not selling anything, this isn’t marketing. Your answers are 100% anonymous and will only help me shape this wild project. A huge thank you to everyone for your help and kindness! Looking forward to chatting in this thread 😛
(Dear admins, this is purely a collaborative effort for my project study, with no commercial purpose. Thank you so much for your support!)
Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
My project: I’d love to share this experience through a sustainable, authentic, and immersive nature tourism initiative. But to build something meaningful, I need to understand how other nature enthusiasts experience their own adventures.
If you:
Are over 20 years old
Have a true passion for Nature
Have already taken at least one trip lasting more than 3 nights (in your country or abroad) in your life
Then... would you have 5 to 7 minutes to help me by filling out this questionnaire? 🙂 »» https://forms.gle/y74ckkvN9TjrougLA
Promise: I’m not selling anything, this isn’t marketing. Your answers are 100% anonymous and will only help me shape this wild project. A huge thank you to everyone for your help and kindness! Looking forward to chatting in this thread 😛
(Dear admins, this is purely a collaborative effort for my project study, with no commercial purpose. Thank you so much for your support!)
Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
Hello everyone,
It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

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It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

...
I spent 3 weeks in Bali last summer (+ 3 nights on Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java). So I wanted to see what ChatGPT could suggest for comparison...
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Hello everyone,
I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
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Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

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I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
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.Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

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I’ve kept the habit of blowing my nose in the sink and then washing my hands—a custom I picked up in India. Sometimes, non-travelers are shocked when they catch me in the act... 🤪
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
After taking a little trip around the world, I came back a few months ago with an idea in mind.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
As part of my Master’s thesis, I’m currently conducting a public survey on a topic that concerns all of us when planning a trip: artificial intelligence and the role of human contact in travel planning.
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
While browsing the forum to gather info for my upcoming trip to Thailand, I often see the terms "traveler," "great traveler," and also "tourist"—so what’s the nuance for you?
I've traveled quite a bit in Vietnam over the past few years—from the southern delta to bustling cities and even some small islands—but what really sticks with me is the north, the high mountains.
Up there, there's something different—maybe slower, more raw. The morning markets with ethnic groups, women in traditional clothes, the colors...
The stilt houses, kids following you and laughing for no reason, the terraced rice fields—it almost feels unreal at times, so vast and quiet, yet so human and simple.
You often hear that Sapa has become too touristy, and that's partly true, especially in the center. But as soon as you move a little farther away, everything changes quickly. The landscapes open up, encounters feel more natural, and you rediscover something truly authentic.
I think it's that contrast that struck me—the difference between what you imagine before going and what you actually discover when you take the time.
And you—what memory do you hold onto from Vietnam? A particular place that touched you more than others?
Hello,
We’re finalizing the plans for our upcoming trip to China in May 2025. The second-to-last stop will be in Zhangjiajie, where we’ve planned to stay for 2 full days before heading to Shanghai.
We’re traveling solo using local transport and have arranged to stay in the city of Zhangjiajie.
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
Hello 🙂
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
Hi everyone, here’s our itinerary. Arriving on the evening of December 13th. Departing on January 7th.
Thanks in advance for your tips and valuable feedback.
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Really disappointed with Costa Rica! Pura vida? The scam of the century!
(Costa Rica pure emptiness).
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
Hello,
Since the war between Russia and Ukraine, nothing is simple anymore for traveling to Belarus due to sanctions.
No more direct flights from the EU to Minsk.
Driving is a huge hassle, especially crossing through Poland at the only open border in Brest—you can wait 2, 3, or even 4 days just to get through by car.
The least painful driving option is to come via Lithuania and cross at the only open border, with a minimum wait time of 8 hours, sometimes up to 20 hours or more!!
Controls are very strict and annoying on both the Lithuanian and Belarusian sides. Avoid bringing alcohol, food, or cigarettes—everything will end up in the trash, especially when leaving Belarus for Vilnius, where the Lithuanians are tough, even with EU citizens.
The joy I once knew when visiting my wife in Minsk is sadly over—it’s now a real ordeal.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
Hi everyone!
I’m putting together our travel itinerary for Veneto at the end of April. And the more I look and research potential sites to visit, the more I find!
We’ll only be there for a week—my family and I—including 3 days in Venice. So we have to make some choices...
I plan to rent a car when we arrive in Venice and head straight to Bergamo, which would be our first stop. We’d leave the car at the airport when we return to Venice so we can explore the city at our leisure.
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
Now that the curtain has fallen on the past year, it’s time to see what’s happening around here.
It seems pretty quiet, but I’ll read more in detail later.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
I’ve visited the U.S. four times myself, including two long road trips. The last one was just this past August...
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
Hi there,
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
Hello everyone,
Controversial topic? Not necessarily—maybe just a reflection on a world to come.
I spent the last 15 days of August on a cruise in Greenland, from Kangerlussuaq to Tasiilaq.
I was utterly amazed by this unique world of rock and ice, the little houses in every color, a simple life that’s also complicated by isolation and climate, among other things...
I carry in my heart the kindness of the people I met, the raw and gentle majesty of the icebergs, the colors of the sky...
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,

Hello to all East Africa lovers and nature enthusiasts in general,
While I prepare to share a recap of our latest trip/safari in Kenya soon, I’d like to wish you all a peaceful transition between 2025 and 2026.
Warm regards,
Puma2A.





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