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TO Torpan Regular ·
It’s true that given our political situation, we can’t really give advice to other countries. The situation in Thailand does remind me of the powers once held by the kings of France...
TO Torpan Regular ·
Today we're back on the Chao Phraya River. We stop at the famous Wat Arun along the river. We didn’t arrive early, so it’s already getting hot and there are quite a few people. The monument is impressive: the central prang rises to 82 m, and the upper staircases are really steep!

At this temple, many couples come to have their photos taken in traditional outfits.





What’s surprising is that the women are wearing modern sneakers on their feet!

In any case, the beautiful costumes of these couples bring life to the temple, which is otherwise incredibly impressive and rich in artistic detail.



The mosaic work is incredibly delicate.
TO Torpan Regular ·
Afterwards, we ate at a small restaurant—a really good massaman curry (90 baht) with a Chang beer—and decided to cross the river to visit Wat Pho before nightfall. This temple is known as a center for teaching traditional Thai massage and, of course, for its 46-meter-long golden Buddha.

With the nighttime lighting and spotlights, the monuments are absolutely stunning.

There’s practically no one around at this hour, and it’s so peaceful—even though we’re right in the city center.

We stayed to admire these wonders for a long time before finally deciding to leave around 8 PM. We headed toward the river and discovered there were no more boats—the last river shuttles leave at 8 PM...

We asked a tuk-tuk driver for the price to take us back to our hotel, which is less than 4 km away. Without batting an eye, he quoted us 1,500 baht...🙁

We walked away and spotted a taxi nearby. Without even negotiating, he asked for 200 baht—no contest. We returned to eat at the restaurants in our neighborhood, where the owners are starting to recognize us and welcome us with so much kindness.
CH Christi56 ·
The women’s clothing is so beautiful and really showcased in this stunning temple! For the tuk-tuks, they don’t hesitate to charge such high prices—they see tourists as easy targets!
TO Torpan Regular ·
Women’s clothes are really beautiful and are showcased so well in this stunning temple! For the tuk-tuks, they don’t hesitate to ask for those kinds of prices—they totally see tourists as easy targets!

I think he expected me to haggle, but that’s not really my thing!
JA Jasmin58 ·
Even if you negotiated, you wouldn’t have gotten the taxi price—or you would’ve spent the whole night haggling! 🙂
TO Torpan Regular ·
This morning we got a massage (400 baht for 1 hour) and decided to head to Chatuchak Market. We saw on the site that the Grab app is the equivalent of Uber in Thailand. The problem is we don’t have a local SIM card (we only use the hotel’s Wi-Fi), so we had to arrange with the driver to pick us up at the desired time. This app is super handy: cheaper than a taxi and faster than the buses!

We haven’t tried the buses, but apparently it’s not straightforward...





The weekend market is huge: 15,000 stalls spread across 27 themed sections!



It’s a real maze with tons of redundant stalls, unfortunately...

We also discovered that they sell pets, and there’s a cat and dog café—it felt like we were in Japan. By the way, we noticed that Thais seem to love Japanese culture: kawaii pastries, Japanese supermarkets, and kid’s stores with a Japanese style.





We ate at a supermarket across from Chatuchak and realized it’s for locals: the green curry took us on a wild ride!
TO Torpan Regular ·
Today we booked an excursion to the floating markets around Bangkok. A minibus picks us up around 7 AM, and off we go for a 1.5-hour drive, starting with the Maeklong Railway Market.



What can we say about this market where no train has passed for ages, except that it’s a tourist trap with no interest for us...

We get back in the van and head to the Damnoen Saduak Floating Market. Here too, we’re disappointed: it’s turned into a tourist circus where they take you around the canals trying to sell you everything and anything. We were hoping for more authenticity, but I think this place was better years ago!



Only a few rare boats give you a glimpse of the original market.

We take a canoe ride, then they leave us for a bit to let the shopping happen before we head back on the canals in motorized canoes.

Our driver is in a hurry, and we get thoroughly splashed with water that’s anything but clear!

Under the indifferent gaze of a monitor lizard finishing its nap! Then it’s back to Bangkok. This was the only organized tour we did, and we’re thinking that when we do things on our own, it works out much better!
SO Songsam Veteran ·
Hi there,

this market that hasn’t seen a train in ages

This is quite a surprising piece of info—where/who did you get it from? Not only does the SRT schedule (https://www.railway.co.th/Home/Index) still list 4 train arrivals per day*, but your two on-site photos also show that the vendors’ stalls are still retractable, which wouldn’t be necessary if no trains were running anymore.

As for the Damnoen Saduak market, if you want to experience it in a more "authentic" way, you should be there between 6:00 and 7:30 AM before the hordes of tourists arrive from Bangkok (the massive bus parking lot is pretty telling...). This means staying overnight nearby the evening before** (there are a few hotels and guesthouses around).

* at 8:30 AM, 11:10 AM, 2:30 PM, and 5:40 PM. ** No point in arriving earlier—the town itself isn’t exactly charming.
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
I knew you’d show up—by TGV—after reading this. There are a few inaccurate statements in this travel journal so far, like the Uber and Grab situation, since both are obviously present in Thailand.

That said, it’s tough when planning a first trip to Thailand to avoid touristy spots, some of which can be disappointing. I have colleagues and friends who ask for advice, and their rough itineraries always include the same things—the ones I systematically recommend avoiding. Still, everyone has their own perspective, and some people only feel at ease in a crowd. For floating markets, there are at least a dozen around Bangkok, but only one is truly authentic. Opening hours are usually something like 4 AM to 9 AM. You’ve got to know what you’re looking for... So when doing research, don’t just stop at the first websites you find easily. It’s also better to use the right keywords. I’ll admit, it takes a lot of time to uncover original spots.
SO Songsam Veteran ·
Maybe Torpan didn't get the info that seems wrong about trains to Mae Klong no longer existing online—I’ve got another theory.
SO Songsam Veteran ·
Torpan, whether the info is wrong or not, we're still waiting for the rest. So, where are we heading next, huh?
TO Torpan Regular ·
At the agency where we booked the trip, it stated for Maeklong: no train.

I also thought that the vendors' awnings dated back to a time when trains still ran through the market!

But sure enough, I looked it up and yes, trains still pass through there. Personally, I can't even imagine the chaos that must come with the train's arrival, so I'll happily pass on that!

We preferred to visit the temple near the tracks—much more to our taste.
TO Torpan Regular ·
I knew you'd show up—by TGV—after reading this. There are currently a few inaccurate statements in this travel journal, like the story about Uber and Grab, which are obviously both present in Thailand.

Aside from that, it's tough when planning a first trip to Thailand to avoid tourist spots, some of which can be disappointing. I have colleagues and friends who ask for my advice, and their draft itineraries always include the same things—the ones I systematically advise avoiding. That said, everyone has their own perspective, and some people only feel safe in the middle of a crowd. For floating markets, there are at least a dozen around Bangkok, but only one is truly authentic. Opening hours are usually something like 4 AM to 9 AM. You’ve got to know what you want... So when you do research, don’t just stop at the first websites you easily find. It’s also better to search with the right keywords. I admit it takes a lot of time to uncover original spots.

Uber no longer operates in Thailand, apparently (it sold its Southeast Asia operations to Grab in 2018). For floating markets, when you book through an operator, you’re stuck with their schedule—that’s what I don’t like about organized tours, but we chose convenience this time...
TO Torpan Regular ·
We decide to head back on the river this evening to enjoy the illuminated buildings.









All the monuments are lit up—I’m not sure if that’s usual or not...

We decide to head down to the Iconsiam shopping mall: what a luxurious sight!



Here’s one of Ducasse’s restaurants: French luxury brands are well represented. Downstairs, a multitude of restaurants of all kinds awaken our taste buds—everything from scorpion skewers to pizza and sushi!



Outside, the Christmas decorations are up, and we get to enjoy a water fountain show set to music.





We take a boat that drops us right across the way, and from there, we grab a taxi (400 baht) to take us to the hotel. Good night!
SO Songsam Veteran ·
At the agency where we booked the trip, it specified for Maeklong: no train

I also thought that the vendors' awnings dated from a time when trains still ran through the market!

But sure enough, I checked and yes, trains still pass through. Personally, I can't even imagine the chaos that must come with the train's arrival, so I'll happily skip it!

Probably the agency wants to cover themselves by telling customers there won't be a train at the time they're on-site (some must have complained in the past), but you just missed the 8:30 one.

When the train arrives, it whistles well in advance to signal itself, so aside from the vendors, few people stay on the sides. The crowd gathers more in safer spots like the level crossing on the street separating the market and the station or in the covered market.

SO Songsam Veteran ·
from there we take a taxi (400 baht) to the hotel

The price is huge—it’s about thirty kilometers, whereas in your case it was only 1.5 km as the crow flies, or max 3 km through the streets.
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
I was sure you'd show up—by TGV—after reading this. There are currently a few inaccurate statements in this travel journal, like the Uber and Grab story, since both are obviously present in Thailand.

That said, it’s tough when planning a first trip to Thailand to avoid tourist spots, some of which can be disappointing. I have colleagues and friends who ask for advice, and their rough itineraries always include the same things—the ones I systematically recommend avoiding. Still, everyone has their own perspective, and some people only feel at ease in the middle of a crowd. For floating markets, there are about ten around Bangkok, but only one is truly authentic. Opening hours are usually something like 4 AM to 9 AM. You’ve got to know what you want... So when researching, don’t just stop at the first websites you easily find. It’s also better to use the right keywords. I admit it takes a lot of time to uncover original spots.

Uber no longer operates in Thailand, apparently (it sold its Southeast Asia operations to Grab in 2018). For floating markets, when you book through an operator, you’re stuck with their schedule—that’s what I don’t like about organized tours, but we chose convenience this time...

Oops, my bad—I confused it with Bolt!
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
From there, we take a taxi (400 baht) that takes us to the hotel

The price is huge—it’s about thirty kilometers, whereas in your case, it was only 1.5 km as the crow flies, or 3 km max through the streets.

It’s illegal for a taxi driver to offer a flat rate, and the authorities remind them of this regularly.

Just a reminder: flat rates often cost double the real fare, sometimes even more. I open the taxi door, say hello, state my destination, and if they say yes, I ask them to turn on the meter. If they refuse, I say goodbye and try another one. Between 2 and 4 attempts, it usually works.

Sure, it can be a bit trickier in the Khao San Road area and around the Grand Palace. At night too, especially in Sukhumvit.
TO Torpan Regular ·
Even taking the shortest route, our hotel was 6 km away on foot, and it was after 10 PM, so we didn’t even try to negotiate the price—but we probably could’ve! Anyway, 10 € isn’t much when you see prices in France, and if it helped improve our driver’s daily life, it’s not exactly breaking the bank...

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