Air France: "refonte du réseau Moyen-Courrier"
by Sscfbtsd
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Dans sa communication du 30.07.2009, dans le chapitre "Perspectives pour l'exercice en cours", AF annonce :
"Le groupe a également engagé une refonte du réseau moyen-courrier tant en termes de destinations que de produit pour une mise en oeuvre au début de l’année 2010".
"refonte du produit" signifiera-t'il une nouvelle "simplification" du service Qui, sur ce forum, a des informations au sujet de ce projet chez AF ?
..."Le groupe a également engagé une refonte du réseau moyen-courrier tant en termes de destinations que de produit pour une mise en oeuvre au début de l’année 2010".
"refonte du produit" signifiera-t'il une nouvelle "simplification" du service Qui, sur ce forum, a des informations au sujet de ce projet chez AF ?
Je doute que tu récupères sur ce forum, ou un autre, ce genre d'info qui soit être bien au fond d'un service marketing / prospectives, d'autant plus que d'autres Cies sont visiblement en pleine reflexion sur le même genre de problème BA pour en nommer une ! Sinon la logique voudrait de revoir ce réseau ne se demarquant "des autres" et donc de ne pas aller en frontal avec les grandes Cies du Golfe par exemple ... ou européennes biens implantées
Je doute que tu récupères sur ce forum, ou un autre, ce genre d'info qui soit être bien au fond d'un service marketing / prospectives, d'autant plus que d'autres Cies sont visiblement en pleine reflexion sur le même genre de problème BA pour en nommer une ! Sinon la logique voudrait de revoir ce réseau ne se demarquant "des autres" et donc de ne pas aller en frontal avec les grandes Cies du Golfe par exemple ... ou européennes biens implantées
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen!
Michel France (85)
Cela fait un bon moment que j'entends parler d'une simplification du service sur LHR, AMS et GVA. L'idée était de donner une petite boite aux pax S et C avant le décollage, et rien en croisière.
Demande faite à l'époque par les PNC qui prétendent ne pas avoir le temps de faire le service. Ok, mais pourquoi LH et LX y arrivent ?
Demande faite à l'époque par les PNC qui prétendent ne pas avoir le temps de faire le service. Ok, mais pourquoi LH et LX y arrivent ?
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Je me rappelle qu'en mars 2004, lorsque la presta a été simplifiée dans les cabines avant en MC (suppression du plateau-repas en C, gobelets en plastique, etc...sur les vols de moins de 2h30), la raison donnée était que le nombre de PNC a été diminué de 1 et, en conséquence, que seule une presta "allégée" pouvait être délivrée. L'argument avancé était également que cette diminution du nombre de PNC allait permettre une augmentation de l'effectif sur les vols LC...Et j'ai également entendu, à l'époque, du Commercial AF, qu'il fallait surtout retenir une montée en gamme de la Tempo Challenge qui bénéficiait dès lors de la même presta qu'en classe C (limite comme arguement tout de même).
Donc, pour 2010, on se dirige vers une presta genre "vols vacances" (souvenez-vous des "paniers repas" distribués en classe vacances sur LC Dom à la fin des années 70, erreur vite réparée d'ailleurs)...ça va être dur à faire passer à la clientèle "haute-contribution" (en particulier, celle, certes clairsemée, en correspondance à CDG et voyageant en Première).
Attendons de voir.
C est gentil cette prestation, petite boite style KLM si je comprends bien. Mais tu en fais quoi pendant le decollage ? Tu la gardes sur les genoux ?
A l inverse, l idee ne serait elle pas de partir dans un systeme americain pour les moyens courriers : - bagages en soute payants - prestations a bord payantes - abonnements annuels pour acceder aux lounges - attribution des places a bord payantes, avec des places a supplement (hublot, issue de secours)
Le tout compense par une baisse des prix pour compenser et se rapprocher des offres low cost !
A l inverse, l idee ne serait elle pas de partir dans un systeme americain pour les moyens courriers : - bagages en soute payants - prestations a bord payantes - abonnements annuels pour acceder aux lounges - attribution des places a bord payantes, avec des places a supplement (hublot, issue de secours)
Le tout compense par une baisse des prix pour compenser et se rapprocher des offres low cost !
Je suis plus proche de ce point de vue.
Il y a quelques années AF parlait de faire payer plus pour la garantie d'obtenir des sièges particuliers (hublot, couloirs, avant de l'appareil...). On va finir par arriver au système 1 siège / 1 prix 😛
Il y a quelques années AF parlait de faire payer plus pour la garantie d'obtenir des sièges particuliers (hublot, couloirs, avant de l'appareil...). On va finir par arriver au système 1 siège / 1 prix 😛
La vie en allers simples...
Vu déjà le nombre de tarifs en fonction de la date de réservation et de la flexibilité souhaité qui existent déjà, si on rajoute des prix différents par rangée de siège et/ou pour allée et hublot, ils vont avoir du boulot au yield pour calculer la valeur totale des places dans un avion donné !
Effectivement, simplifier les prestations en affaire sur MC est un moyen de rapprocher la tempo challenge de la classe affaire (enfiin, c'est plutot le contraire). La différence entre les deux se réduit certes, mais l'ensemble est tiré vers le bas.
Effectivement, simplifier les prestations en affaire sur MC est un moyen de rapprocher la tempo challenge de la classe affaire (enfiin, c'est plutot le contraire). La différence entre les deux se réduit certes, mais l'ensemble est tiré vers le bas.
Ca depend, si ils simplifient leur grille tarifaire, ca peut compenser ! Style 49 EUR le vol avec tout en supplement !
Pour les tarifs, ca peut etre style 5 EUR la reservation d un siege a la reservation, 10 EUR pour un siege XL ! Il suffit de regarder ce que font certaines compagnies comme Vueling, Air Berlin !
Pour les tarifs, ca peut etre style 5 EUR la reservation d un siege a la reservation, 10 EUR pour un siege XL ! Il suffit de regarder ce que font certaines compagnies comme Vueling, Air Berlin !
finalement on se rapproche du modele ryanair.
😏
à quand les WC payants? à quand les sourirs des pnc payantes? 😏😏😏
par contre je suis pour une baisse du prix si on refuse les plateaux repas. 😎
à quand les WC payants? à quand les sourirs des pnc payantes? 😏😏😏
par contre je suis pour une baisse du prix si on refuse les plateaux repas. 😎
je n'aime pas ce thème de refonte du produit MC qui peut dire plusieurs choses :
- on passe à quelque chose de haut de gamme en affaires et on améliore l'éco ?
- on passe à une version light en gardant des tarifs élevés ?
- on passe à une version vol national avec service réduit au minimum avec baisse des tarifs?
Au choix : se démarquer des autres ou bien faire comme les copains Easy jet et Ryanair que l'on a exécré et critiqué mais qui ont réussi bienavant la crise.
Air France doit absolument evoluer ! Je reviens d'un vol interieur , je vois pas la différence avec un low cost mis à part les 2.50euros que doivent couter le mini sandwich et le jus d'orange qui m'a été offert ! Malheureusement sur le billet la différence de prix entre un vol AF et un vol low cost n'est pas de 2.50 euros .
A l'aller j'ai eu un Fokker100 indigne d'une compagnie comme Air France (britair) .
J'etais pourtant à l'avant , le bruit était horrible et nous entendions un "bruit de cailloux qui roule" dans le plafond quand l'avion cabrait , ce qui rendait l'atmosphere de l'avion pas très sereine .
Je suis egalement très etonné que les PNC ne vérifient que d'un oeil très bref si les ceintures des passagers sont bien bouclées alors qu'en grand habitué de Ryanair et easyjet la verification est individuelle et très méticuleuse .
Pareil pour les effets personnels sous le siège.
Je ne parle pas de l'aimabilité du personnel AF qui était ce week end pour moi proche de 0 .
Le seul avantage que je trouve , est l'espace à bord et la config cabine très agréable pour le reste ...y a encore du boulot !
AF doit baisser ses prix sur les vols domestiques et européens et evoluer .
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Oui c est vrai, j ai plus lance des supposition sur le court courrier.
J ai plus l impression que les majors qui refondent leur service vont vers un systeme payant en eco, comme SK SN mais egalement OS et LX qui sont revenues depuis a un systeme classique.
Etant donne que l objectif est la reduction de couts et de rester competitif envers les low cost, je doute que l on aille vers une augmentation de la qualite a prix constants...
A moins qu AF ne diminue les capacites sans les frequences, pour ne pas penaliser le hub, mais une flotte ne change pas rapidement !
J ai plus l impression que les majors qui refondent leur service vont vers un systeme payant en eco, comme SK SN mais egalement OS et LX qui sont revenues depuis a un systeme classique.
Etant donne que l objectif est la reduction de couts et de rester competitif envers les low cost, je doute que l on aille vers une augmentation de la qualite a prix constants...
A moins qu AF ne diminue les capacites sans les frequences, pour ne pas penaliser le hub, mais une flotte ne change pas rapidement !
Je crains aussi, sans avoir d'information privilégiée, une dégradation des prestations en S et en C. Par ailleurs, dans une interview au Wall Street Journal, Pierre-Henri Gourgeon évoque une diminution du nombre de destinations et l'utilisation d'avions plus grands, ce qui semblerait annoncer aussi une diminution des fréquences sur certaines destinations.
"Gourgeon also said Air France-KLM's review of its medium-haul network will eliminate some destinations and use bigger aircraft. The changes that emerge from the consultations would take effect at the start of next year, he said"
"Gourgeon also said Air France-KLM's review of its medium-haul network will eliminate some destinations and use bigger aircraft. The changes that emerge from the consultations would take effect at the start of next year, he said"
Avec la crise on a un sacré serrage de vis mais il faut dire que le produit Europe est à bout de souffle et qu'une formule originale s'impose sans exagérer les prix ..
les fréquences européennes sûr vont être revues à la baisse donc moins de choix pour les passagers.
Compte tenu d'une stratégie basée sur le Hub de CDG, il faut pouvoir compter sur un produit MC de qualité en classe avant : la clientèle Haute Contribution en correspondance sur LC reste exigeante et aussi attentive.
Au départ de GVA, cette clientèle est importante et LH/LX a une réputation d'excellence et entre en forte concurrence avec AF. Donc, en matière de qualité de produit sur MC, on ne peut pas faire n'importe quoi. Et là, pour AF, il va falloir innover (en matière de prestas et de prix pour tous les segements de la clientèle). Le produit MC actuel n'a subi que peu d'améliorations depuis 1995 !
Entièrement d'accord avec vous et pour améliorer le produit la mise en place d'un nouveau fauteuil semble indispensable (style vols domestiques USA ou nouveau fauteuil ECO Luxe chez AF) ainsi qu'une prestation honnête en restauration en rapport avec le prix payé .
Je suis 100% d'accord avec votre diagnostic sur la nécessité de maintenir la qualité. Je suis plus sensible à la prestation (déplorable, aujourd'hui) qu'au siège, car avec le siège du milieu laissé libre, je trouve le confort acceptable. (surtout sur le siège 2D 😉 sur les A318, A319 et A320).
Donc, en matière de qualité de produit sur MC, on ne peut pas faire n'importe quoi. Et là, pour AF, il va falloir innover (en matière de prestas et de prix pour tous les segements de la clientèle). Le produit MC actuel n'a subi que peu d'améliorations depuis 1995 !
Le produit a surtout connu une dégradation brutale au printemps 2004. Jusqu'à cette date, il était tout à fait honorable.
Donc, en matière de qualité de produit sur MC, on ne peut pas faire n'importe quoi. Et là, pour AF, il va falloir innover (en matière de prestas et de prix pour tous les segements de la clientèle). Le produit MC actuel n'a subi que peu d'améliorations depuis 1995 !
Le produit a surtout connu une dégradation brutale au printemps 2004. Jusqu'à cette date, il était tout à fait honorable.
Le produit a surtout connu une dégradation brutale au printemps 2004. Jusqu'à cette date, il était tout à fait honorable.
C'était en mars 2004, effectivement. Je me rappelle que les arguments commerciaux apportés par AF à l'époque étaient du style : un PNC étant supprimé sur les vols MC (justifiant la simplication du service), l'effectif PNC sur LC allait pouvoir être augmenté + amélioration de la presta en Tempo Challenge puisque mise au niveau de la C. Par la suite, "un PNC en moins" justifiait parfois que la boisson d'accueil ne pouvait pas être servie en cabine C (vu personnellement sur 321 en GVA et CDG).....je l'avais entendu d'un CC...C'est pas très commercial !!!
C'était en mars 2004, effectivement. Je me rappelle que les arguments commerciaux apportés par AF à l'époque étaient du style : un PNC étant supprimé sur les vols MC (justifiant la simplication du service), l'effectif PNC sur LC allait pouvoir être augmenté + amélioration de la presta en Tempo Challenge puisque mise au niveau de la C. Par la suite, "un PNC en moins" justifiait parfois que la boisson d'accueil ne pouvait pas être servie en cabine C (vu personnellement sur 321 en GVA et CDG).....je l'avais entendu d'un CC...C'est pas très commercial !!!
C'est à se demander su tu as deja pris Ryanair, EJ ou MyAir? La diff ne reside pas seulement dans le catering elle va bien au dela et je ne vais pas perdre mon temps à énumérer cela. Et au niveau des prix, je t'invite comme je le fait pour beaucoup de client a regarder la part fixe qui reviens a AF sur un vol dom. Quoique un petit exemple s'impose
Simu: Paris<=>Nice Depart 22/08 retour 28/08. Prix pour un adulte de 25 ans et plus 106, 59 Euros. Sur cette somme 56 Euros reviennent à AF. Et la encore je rappelle que l'on a droit à 20Kg de franchise bagages, de payer avec sa carte bancaire sans supplement, d'arriver 20min avant le vol et non 40min comme chez LowCosts. De partir d'un aeroport national et oui, en plus d'avoir un coca et un sandwich sans supplement. Et en plus vos PNC seront francais...
Talking is Good, Talking Good is Better!
Simu: Paris<=>Nice Depart 22/08 retour 28/08. Prix pour un adulte de 25 ans et plus 106, 59 Euros. Sur cette somme 56 Euros reviennent à AF. Et la encore je rappelle que l'on a droit à 20Kg de franchise bagages, de payer avec sa carte bancaire sans supplement, d'arriver 20min avant le vol et non 40min comme chez LowCosts. De partir d'un aeroport national et oui, en plus d'avoir un coca et un sandwich sans supplement. Et en plus vos PNC seront francais...
Talking is Good, Talking Good is Better!
Massenzio
Hello
Je ne suis pas un grand habitué des low cost, mais il me semble que easy jet utilise des aérports internationnaux et nationnaux, non ?
Philo
Je ne suis pas un grand habitué des low cost, mais il me semble que easy jet utilise des aérports internationnaux et nationnaux, non ?
Philo
"J'ai refait tous les calculs, notre projet est irréalisable, il ne nous reste plus qu'une chose à faire, le réaliser". Latecoere
dyslexique
Hello,
Pour CDG et ORY je ne sait pas, je crois qu'il y'as des terminaux low cost, pour GVA c'est le même que pour AF dans la zone FRANCE ...
En faite j'ai pris qu'une fois Ryan Air (pour l'Irlande) et Easy Jet. Le seul déagrément à été causé par ma femme qui à fait un scandale par ce qu'il n'y avait plus de sandwich à acheter dans un vole Marrakech => Paris ... je crois que le pauvre stewart à regretter de dire qu'il comprenais mal le francais, il a pris une deuxième salve en anglais ... Je ne savais plus ou me mettre ... quand ma femme à fin ...
Depuis je ne suis pas remonté dans un low cost ... je me souvient juste que pour un paris marrakech on avais économisé 50% d'un billet AF. C'étais au début de cette ligne.
Philo
Pour CDG et ORY je ne sait pas, je crois qu'il y'as des terminaux low cost, pour GVA c'est le même que pour AF dans la zone FRANCE ...
En faite j'ai pris qu'une fois Ryan Air (pour l'Irlande) et Easy Jet. Le seul déagrément à été causé par ma femme qui à fait un scandale par ce qu'il n'y avait plus de sandwich à acheter dans un vole Marrakech => Paris ... je crois que le pauvre stewart à regretter de dire qu'il comprenais mal le francais, il a pris une deuxième salve en anglais ... Je ne savais plus ou me mettre ... quand ma femme à fin ...
Depuis je ne suis pas remonté dans un low cost ... je me souvient juste que pour un paris marrakech on avais économisé 50% d'un billet AF. C'étais au début de cette ligne.
Philo
"J'ai refait tous les calculs, notre projet est irréalisable, il ne nous reste plus qu'une chose à faire, le réaliser". Latecoere
dyslexique
Oui... Mais pas Ryan par exemple. Cepdt EJ tt comme bcp d'autres decollent souvent de terminaux spécifiques. Non ?
Pour les exemples que je connais, tels que easyjet à CDG ou Nice c'est les mêmes terminaux que les autres compagnies... Il y a à MRS un Terminal Low cost ( MP2 ) qui est dédié à ces compagnies ( avec des prestations "low cost" aussi ) mais c'est le seul cas que je connaisse en France. Aprés il y a les aéroports spécifiques tels Beauvais...
Pour les exemples que je connais, tels que easyjet à CDG ou Nice c'est les mêmes terminaux que les autres compagnies... Il y a à MRS un Terminal Low cost ( MP2 ) qui est dédié à ces compagnies ( avec des prestations "low cost" aussi ) mais c'est le seul cas que je connaisse en France. Aprés il y a les aéroports spécifiques tels Beauvais...
À Roissy y'a le T3 (qu'easyJet a quitté pour le T2B) 🙂
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À Roissy y'a le T3 (qu'easyJet a quitté pour le T2B) 🙂
ah yes... Ayant récemment livré Madame au T2B pour une vol Eaysjet j'en ai oublié le T3...
ah yes... Ayant récemment livré Madame au T2B pour une vol Eaysjet j'en ai oublié le T3...
Mais revenons-en à la question initiale et je m'adresse au PNC de notre compagnie bien-aimée : avez-vous des infos en interne sur ce qui se prépare au niveau du produit MC début 2010 ? (mais je sais que le PNC, bien qu'en "première ligne", n'est pas le premier informé sur les futurs changements affectant le produit en vol).
quand je prend Ryanair sur Marseille Bale ou Easyjet sur Bale Nice , j'utilise des avions neufs (et pas des fokker pourris) , j'ai des prix abordables , des aeroports normaux et j'ai des pnc Francais !
Idem pour Marseille Lille, Marseille Nantes, Nantes Lyon, Lyon Bordeaux ....
En plus je me webcheck donc je peux arriver à la derniere minute et je ne prend pas de bagages donc jai des tarifs tres interessants ! Je n'apprecie pas que AF et ses consoeurs me fassent payer des bagages de soutes dans mon billet que je n'utilise pas .
En plus je me webcheck donc je peux arriver à la derniere minute et je ne prend pas de bagages donc jai des tarifs tres interessants ! Je n'apprecie pas que AF et ses consoeurs me fassent payer des bagages de soutes dans mon billet que je n'utilise pas .
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Il faut arreter de crier partout que chez AF il n'y a que des vieux Fokker 100 (qui sont d'ailleur peu bruyant à l'avant et confortable grace a un pitch beaucoup plus généreux que chez les low-cost ou que sur les 32S d'AF), la majorité de la flotte MC AF, c'est du 320 Series avec 318, 319, 320, 321, certains sont en effet un peu vieux (en partie à cause d'ex avion Air Inter) mais d'autres sont tout neuf (dernier 320 & 320 reçus) avec une nouvelle cabine.
Quand aux aéroport normaux...
Nice, pas de terminal low-cost, EZY est au T2 mais dans la partie ancienne (sauf vol non shengen) alors qu'AF est dans la partie récente. Paris Orly, EZY est au SUD ou c'est clairement l'aérogare viellot qui n'a pas reçu de rénovations majeures, AF est à Ouest ou certains Hall sont devenu moderne après des mois de travaux. Parix CDG, EZY est au 2B, encore une fois un aérogare ultra vieux et mal fait, AF est principalement au 2F ou l'on admire un chef d'oeuvre de l'architecture de Paul Andreu.
Je ne parle pas de RYR, car ils utilisent des aérodromes de campagne avec des pistes à la limite pour etre capable de recevoir des 738, niveau sécurité c'est pas le must (cf: carcassonne est d'autres...)
Quand aux aéroport normaux...
Nice, pas de terminal low-cost, EZY est au T2 mais dans la partie ancienne (sauf vol non shengen) alors qu'AF est dans la partie récente. Paris Orly, EZY est au SUD ou c'est clairement l'aérogare viellot qui n'a pas reçu de rénovations majeures, AF est à Ouest ou certains Hall sont devenu moderne après des mois de travaux. Parix CDG, EZY est au 2B, encore une fois un aérogare ultra vieux et mal fait, AF est principalement au 2F ou l'on admire un chef d'oeuvre de l'architecture de Paul Andreu.
Je ne parle pas de RYR, car ils utilisent des aérodromes de campagne avec des pistes à la limite pour etre capable de recevoir des 738, niveau sécurité c'est pas le must (cf: carcassonne est d'autres...)
Mes vidéos de vols sur Vimeo
Ma carte de voyage sur Openflights
un aéroport est equipé et certifié pour recevoir tel ou tel type d'avion .
Là ou se pose les 738 de Ryanair c'est dans des endroits certifiés pour recevoir un 738 ...
Parce que si vous me sortez ce genre d'arguments , je peux faire pareil avec des AP en Corse assez complexe ou Funchal au Portugal où il faut des entrainements spécifiques pour y atterrir .
Non biensur il n'y a pas que des Fokker chez AF , mais je me permet de faire quelques clichés comme vous n'hesitez jamais à en faire avec le low cost (aeroports eloignés , frais annexes ...)
Non biensur il n'y a pas que des Fokker chez AF , mais je me permet de faire quelques clichés comme vous n'hesitez jamais à en faire avec le low cost (aeroports eloignés , frais annexes ...)
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Euh ... Merci d'arrêter de dévier du sujet ... C'est pas le bon post pour faire l'apologie (ou non) des low costs.
Ici c'est les infos sur AF et son futur produit !! Merci
Ici c'est les infos sur AF et son futur produit !! Merci
Voyager, Voyager toujours Voyager ...
Des étoiles dans les yeux et le ciel plein la tête ...
Vous pourriez citer St Martin tant que vous y êtes!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ai66HgjF8PY
Ce sont des endroits effectivement "serrés" mais il n'y a guère de moyen d'atterrir ailleurs, ce n'est pas comme Beauvais (en même temps, j'avoue que si un vol sur Beauvais m'arrangeait, je le prendrais sans hésitation!)
Euh ... Merci d'arrêter de dévier du sujet ... C'est pas le bon post pour faire l'apologie (ou non) des low costs.
Ici c'est les infos sur AF et son futur produit !! Merci
je ne fais que répondre à un sujet ayant deja devié
Ici c'est les infos sur AF et son futur produit !! Merci
je ne fais que répondre à un sujet ayant deja devié
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j'ai des pnc Francais !
... qui ne cotisent pas en France, mais dans un paradis fiscal : l'Irlande, contrairement à Easy Jet, qui s'est mis en conformité avec la loi et le décret de 2006. Tous ses personnels basés en France ont donc des contrats Français et cotisent en France. Pas chez Ryanair.
Ryanair préfère gruger la collectivité au nez et à la barbe de tout le monde. Alors c'est sûr, c'est facile de faire des tarifs intéressants quand on ne joue pas avec les même règles du jeu.
... qui ne cotisent pas en France, mais dans un paradis fiscal : l'Irlande, contrairement à Easy Jet, qui s'est mis en conformité avec la loi et le décret de 2006. Tous ses personnels basés en France ont donc des contrats Français et cotisent en France. Pas chez Ryanair.
Ryanair préfère gruger la collectivité au nez et à la barbe de tout le monde. Alors c'est sûr, c'est facile de faire des tarifs intéressants quand on ne joue pas avec les même règles du jeu.
Sur Pprune, un dialogue de 2007 disait que le "package" d'avantages sociaux d'Easyjet était complet sauf la mutuelle médicale qui viendrait bientôt, savez-vous si elle est en place?
Qu'en est-il de Ryanair? (excusez-moi de "continuer la déviation" mais les questions sociales m'intéressent beaucoup...)
Les low cost c'est bien mais il n'y a pas de secret, c'est à coups de compromis. Que ce soit sur le personnel, les prestations vol et sol, l'achat du billet, les modalités d'échange, les bagages etc. Chacun s'y retrouve et fait alors un choix. Cependant AF se défend bien et offre désormais une grille tarifaire agressive, le tout en conservant une offre et des services avantageux. J'ai été a Vegas en avril, j'ai pris Virgin America. C'est la low cost de luxe. Le coca et les bagages sont compris, les avions sont magnifiques (moon lighting à la emirates, WIFI etc.) il y a meme un salon frequent flyer ultra moderne. Le tout pour des prix competitifs. Il y a des attentions qui ne coute pas grand chose et qui font pourtant toute la difference!
Quand aux vieux avions, Regional ne compte plu que 8 Fokker encore en exploitation contre 9 Emb 190 et 5 Emb 170 tout neufs. Et Brit Air recoit les premier CRJ 1000 en debut d'année prochaine et a accelerer le retrait des F-100 par un avenant au contrat initial pour mi 2011.
Quand aux vieux avions, Regional ne compte plu que 8 Fokker encore en exploitation contre 9 Emb 190 et 5 Emb 170 tout neufs. Et Brit Air recoit les premier CRJ 1000 en debut d'année prochaine et a accelerer le retrait des F-100 par un avenant au contrat initial pour mi 2011.
Massenzio
Pas "moon lighting" mais plutôt "mood lighting" c'est mieux ;)
Voyager, Voyager toujours Voyager ...
Des étoiles dans les yeux et le ciel plein la tête ...
et qu'en est il de city jet ? le GAF n'a pas les mains propre non plus sur les contrats .
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Hello,
Since it came into force, Regulation 261/2004 of the European Parliament and Council, which defines air passenger rights, has faced fierce resistance from airlines, backed by IATA (the association representing almost all passenger airlines).
Beyond the airlines' often abusive—and even frequently bad-faith—resistance to passenger rights, IATA has been lobbying EU institutions for years, with the Council paying close attention for a long time.
As a result, the Council and the Commission have been proposing revisions to Regulation 261/2004 for years that are particularly unfavorable to passengers. The latest attempt nearly eliminated the right to compensation for delays of 3 hours or more upon arrival at the final destination.
However, since this is a regulation of both the European Parliament AND the Council, the two bodies had to agree.
But the European Parliament has always stood firm, consistently responding that passenger rights must be preserved.
After 11 years of struggle, it seems likely that we’re finally nearing the end of the match between the European Commission, the Council (the 27 heads of state or government), and the European Parliament.
Indeed, the Commission and the European Parliament have agreed on a text that will be debated again on Monday, July 6, 2026, with a vote scheduled for July 7, 2026. It’s very likely that this text, which would come into force in a year, will be adopted.
The main changes would be as follows: - Families with children will no longer be forced to pay to sit together on planes; - A flight will be considered canceled (not just delayed) if it departs more than one hour late; - Right to compensation for arrival at the final destination if the delay exceeds 3 hours (no longer "3 hours OR more"). The arrival time will be when the plane, having reached its parking spot, engages its parking brakes (no longer when the aircraft door opens); - Airlines can no longer refuse boarding or charge extra on the return flight for a passenger who didn’t take the outbound flight; - If a flight is canceled, the airline must, at the same time as informing passengers of the event, offer the choice between a refund and re-routing, and inform them of their rights to assistance and, if applicable, compensation; - The airline must, without undue delay, inform passengers of the reason; - In the case of a connecting flight, if the connection is missed and the delay at the final destination entitles the passenger to compensation, the responsible airline will be liable. This is very different from the current situation, where, under the KLM ruling, any airline operating a segment of the flight is liable for compensation. This promises more disputes that the Court of Justice of the European Union will have to resolve if two separate airlines operating segments of a connecting flight are both responsible for the delay. See this case for an example: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2026/04/18/swiss-international-air-lines-la-mauvaise-foi/ Moreover, this case demonstrates in advance another potential dispute: It could be argued that it wasn’t a missed connection since the flight was canceled before the first leg even departed. - Within 96 hours of a flight that could entitle passengers to compensation, the airline must contact them to inform them of their rights and explain the next steps. - Passengers must claim their right to compensation within 9 months. This is very different from the current situation, as Regulation 261/2004 sets no time limit. Currently, national law applies—in France, the limit is 5 years. The airline must respond within 30 days. If the airline refuses compensation on the grounds of "extraordinary circumstances," it must specify which type of case it refers to from the list in the annex of the new regulation. If the case isn’t on the list, the airline must explain what the event was, why it qualifies as extraordinary circumstances with "clear, substantial, and concise" explanations, and why it’s directly linked to the reason given. It must also declare what "reasonable measures" were taken to mitigate the issue. This is, of course, a huge change in the regulation, with the clear goal of preventing airlines from declaring just anything as "extraordinary circumstances" to avoid compensation. - If, within 3 hours of a last-minute canceled or delayed flight, the airline hasn’t offered re-routing under comparable transport conditions and as soon as possible—whether on one of its own flights or another airline’s—the passenger will have the right to arrange their own re-routing and demand a refund for the new ticket, up to 400% of the original ticket price. This is a significant improvement that would have likely prevented the case described here: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2024/01/12/reacheminement-catastrophique-droit-indemnisation-meme-circonstances-extraordinaires-2/ - If a flight is canceled due to "extraordinary circumstances," the airline will only be required to offer up to 3 nights in a hotel. This is a major change, as there’s currently no limit. Expect disputes if the extraordinary circumstances end while the passenger hasn’t been re-routed. - The price of a flight, as first displayed, must obligatorily include a cabin bag. This doesn’t prevent the airline from offering a price reduction if the passenger waives the cabin bag. This will put an end to abnormal practices, such as (just one example) Condor charging extra for a cabin bag on long-haul flights like Frankfurt (Germany)–Puerto Plata (Dominican Republic)–Santo Domingo (Dominican Republic)–Frankfurt. - Free correction of a passenger’s name if requested 48 hours before departure. Note: This can’t be used to replace one passenger with another—just to correct a typo, e.g., Dupont instead of Dpont. - Airlines’ websites and apps must include information on how to file a claim.
It’s clear that, despite a few details, these changes are very positive for upholding passenger rights. It remains to be seen whether this text will be definitively adopted on July 7, 2026, as is very likely, and, more importantly, whether IATA will encourage airlines to loyally respect these new rules or persist in their old habits.
Best regards,
Since it came into force, Regulation 261/2004 of the European Parliament and Council, which defines air passenger rights, has faced fierce resistance from airlines, backed by IATA (the association representing almost all passenger airlines).
Beyond the airlines' often abusive—and even frequently bad-faith—resistance to passenger rights, IATA has been lobbying EU institutions for years, with the Council paying close attention for a long time.
As a result, the Council and the Commission have been proposing revisions to Regulation 261/2004 for years that are particularly unfavorable to passengers. The latest attempt nearly eliminated the right to compensation for delays of 3 hours or more upon arrival at the final destination.
However, since this is a regulation of both the European Parliament AND the Council, the two bodies had to agree.
But the European Parliament has always stood firm, consistently responding that passenger rights must be preserved.
After 11 years of struggle, it seems likely that we’re finally nearing the end of the match between the European Commission, the Council (the 27 heads of state or government), and the European Parliament.
Indeed, the Commission and the European Parliament have agreed on a text that will be debated again on Monday, July 6, 2026, with a vote scheduled for July 7, 2026. It’s very likely that this text, which would come into force in a year, will be adopted.
The main changes would be as follows: - Families with children will no longer be forced to pay to sit together on planes; - A flight will be considered canceled (not just delayed) if it departs more than one hour late; - Right to compensation for arrival at the final destination if the delay exceeds 3 hours (no longer "3 hours OR more"). The arrival time will be when the plane, having reached its parking spot, engages its parking brakes (no longer when the aircraft door opens); - Airlines can no longer refuse boarding or charge extra on the return flight for a passenger who didn’t take the outbound flight; - If a flight is canceled, the airline must, at the same time as informing passengers of the event, offer the choice between a refund and re-routing, and inform them of their rights to assistance and, if applicable, compensation; - The airline must, without undue delay, inform passengers of the reason; - In the case of a connecting flight, if the connection is missed and the delay at the final destination entitles the passenger to compensation, the responsible airline will be liable. This is very different from the current situation, where, under the KLM ruling, any airline operating a segment of the flight is liable for compensation. This promises more disputes that the Court of Justice of the European Union will have to resolve if two separate airlines operating segments of a connecting flight are both responsible for the delay. See this case for an example: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2026/04/18/swiss-international-air-lines-la-mauvaise-foi/ Moreover, this case demonstrates in advance another potential dispute: It could be argued that it wasn’t a missed connection since the flight was canceled before the first leg even departed. - Within 96 hours of a flight that could entitle passengers to compensation, the airline must contact them to inform them of their rights and explain the next steps. - Passengers must claim their right to compensation within 9 months. This is very different from the current situation, as Regulation 261/2004 sets no time limit. Currently, national law applies—in France, the limit is 5 years. The airline must respond within 30 days. If the airline refuses compensation on the grounds of "extraordinary circumstances," it must specify which type of case it refers to from the list in the annex of the new regulation. If the case isn’t on the list, the airline must explain what the event was, why it qualifies as extraordinary circumstances with "clear, substantial, and concise" explanations, and why it’s directly linked to the reason given. It must also declare what "reasonable measures" were taken to mitigate the issue. This is, of course, a huge change in the regulation, with the clear goal of preventing airlines from declaring just anything as "extraordinary circumstances" to avoid compensation. - If, within 3 hours of a last-minute canceled or delayed flight, the airline hasn’t offered re-routing under comparable transport conditions and as soon as possible—whether on one of its own flights or another airline’s—the passenger will have the right to arrange their own re-routing and demand a refund for the new ticket, up to 400% of the original ticket price. This is a significant improvement that would have likely prevented the case described here: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2024/01/12/reacheminement-catastrophique-droit-indemnisation-meme-circonstances-extraordinaires-2/ - If a flight is canceled due to "extraordinary circumstances," the airline will only be required to offer up to 3 nights in a hotel. This is a major change, as there’s currently no limit. Expect disputes if the extraordinary circumstances end while the passenger hasn’t been re-routed. - The price of a flight, as first displayed, must obligatorily include a cabin bag. This doesn’t prevent the airline from offering a price reduction if the passenger waives the cabin bag. This will put an end to abnormal practices, such as (just one example) Condor charging extra for a cabin bag on long-haul flights like Frankfurt (Germany)–Puerto Plata (Dominican Republic)–Santo Domingo (Dominican Republic)–Frankfurt. - Free correction of a passenger’s name if requested 48 hours before departure. Note: This can’t be used to replace one passenger with another—just to correct a typo, e.g., Dupont instead of Dpont. - Airlines’ websites and apps must include information on how to file a claim.
It’s clear that, despite a few details, these changes are very positive for upholding passenger rights. It remains to be seen whether this text will be definitively adopted on July 7, 2026, as is very likely, and, more importantly, whether IATA will encourage airlines to loyally respect these new rules or persist in their old habits.
Best regards,
Hi,
Air Cairo offers good prices on domestic flights and schedules that work for us, but is this airline reliable?
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Georgia this summer and I’ve been comparing some airlines. I’m not particularly set on flying with Pegasus (though it’s convenient with direct flights from Lyon to Tbilisi), but right off the bat, Pegasus states this:
As of January 1, 2026, all foreign nationals traveling to Georgia for tourism purposes will be required to present valid travel health insurance. Guests who fail to provide the relevant health insurance will not be accepted on our flights to Georgia. Sincerely, Pegasus Airlines
In other words, if you don’t show proof of travel health insurance, you’ll be denied boarding. Personally, my credit card insurance has always been enough for me, and I’d rather not take out extra coverage... Have any of you run into this issue before? If not, what do you think? Why is Pegasus asking for this proof? Other airlines don’t mention it at all.
I’m planning a trip to Georgia this summer and I’ve been comparing some airlines. I’m not particularly set on flying with Pegasus (though it’s convenient with direct flights from Lyon to Tbilisi), but right off the bat, Pegasus states this:
As of January 1, 2026, all foreign nationals traveling to Georgia for tourism purposes will be required to present valid travel health insurance. Guests who fail to provide the relevant health insurance will not be accepted on our flights to Georgia. Sincerely, Pegasus Airlines
In other words, if you don’t show proof of travel health insurance, you’ll be denied boarding. Personally, my credit card insurance has always been enough for me, and I’d rather not take out extra coverage... Have any of you run into this issue before? If not, what do you think? Why is Pegasus asking for this proof? Other airlines don’t mention it at all.
Hi,
I bought my flight ticket with my first (usual) first name, which appears first on my passport. However, I have two first names on my passport, and of course, it’s mentioned in the machine-readable zone at the bottom.
I booked with Turkish Airlines (through an online agency) for a trip to South Korea.
I wanted to know if it would be a problem that I only used my first first name on the ticket, while my passport has two. I had requested through the agency to add the second first name, but the airline refused because it doesn’t meet their general conditions. (They must have seen that the last name and first name were the same, and only the second first name was added.)
So, my ticket has my last name and first first name correctly spelled, and when I check in online, I’ll enter the passport details correctly.
I’ll have a layover in Istanbul on the flight.
Thanks in advance for your replies. Have a great day.
I bought my flight ticket with my first (usual) first name, which appears first on my passport. However, I have two first names on my passport, and of course, it’s mentioned in the machine-readable zone at the bottom.
I booked with Turkish Airlines (through an online agency) for a trip to South Korea.
I wanted to know if it would be a problem that I only used my first first name on the ticket, while my passport has two. I had requested through the agency to add the second first name, but the airline refused because it doesn’t meet their general conditions. (They must have seen that the last name and first name were the same, and only the second first name was added.)
So, my ticket has my last name and first first name correctly spelled, and when I check in online, I’ll enter the passport details correctly.
I’ll have a layover in Istanbul on the flight.
Thanks in advance for your replies. Have a great day.
Hi there,
I traveled in June 2025 with Nouvelair Destinations to Hammamet.
I had one checked bag and one carry-on sized 40x24x30, which I usually take on low-cost flights, and I didn’t have any issues. But I just read on a website that Nouvel Air only accepts carry-ons of 40x20x15. I’m flying back to Djerba in June—what do you think? Especially since that size is impossible to find??????? Thanks
Hi, it's my first time taking a plane and I chose EasyJet for a Geneva -> Barcelona flight.
I booked my ticket.
I received my booking reference by email, but I don’t see the actual ticket (barcode or QR code?).
Then I checked in to get the boarding pass with the flight details, QR code, etc. But does this boarding pass act as the ticket?
Because I’ve seen several times online that the flight ticket and the boarding pass aren’t the same thing.
Thanks in advance!
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
We're leaving for Albania on June 18th. When I validated the flight tickets with Wizz Air on Booking, I only put my son's first name but forgot to include his other three first names on the ticket. On the passport: SURNAME: Dupont, FIRST NAMES: toto titi tutu tata On the flight ticket: SURNAME: Dupont, FIRST NAME: toto I can't seem to reach anyone at Wizz Air to get an answer. Booking and Wizz Air's chat say I need to modify it, but ChatGPT says it should be fine. I wanted to know if he can fly like this or if I need to change his ticket? (It costs 140 €, I know I shouldn't have made a mistake🙁)
Thanks for your feedback.
We're leaving for Albania on June 18th. When I validated the flight tickets with Wizz Air on Booking, I only put my son's first name but forgot to include his other three first names on the ticket. On the passport: SURNAME: Dupont, FIRST NAMES: toto titi tutu tata On the flight ticket: SURNAME: Dupont, FIRST NAME: toto I can't seem to reach anyone at Wizz Air to get an answer. Booking and Wizz Air's chat say I need to modify it, but ChatGPT says it should be fine. I wanted to know if he can fly like this or if I need to change his ticket? (It costs 140 €, I know I shouldn't have made a mistake🙁)
Thanks for your feedback.
Hi,
A pretty serious issue has come up in the past few weeks for traveling to Tanzania.
What’s the deal with airlines in Tanzania? https://www.capital.fr/economie-politique/ce-pays-est-tres-touristique-mais-ses-compagnies-aeriennes-sont-placees-sur-liste-noire-par-l-europe-1515325 https://www.charentelibre.fr/tourisme/la-tanzanie-sur-liste-noire-de-l-europe-des-vols-interieurs-a-haut-risque-pour-100-000-touristes-francais-25002566.php
Basically, all airlines have been blacklisted because they don’t meet European safety standards. They’re banned from flying in Europe but continue operating in Tanzania. The main issue is that travel agencies’ civil liability no longer applies to blacklisted airlines. So we can’t allow clients to fly with these carriers. Of course, there’s huge pressure from European agencies, which are forced to disrupt their plans or even cancel trips because of this. Personally, I’ve got a trip planned for February 2026 to the southern parks in Tanzania, so I’ll be keeping an eye on how this develops. Do any of you have updates? Thanks!
Loïc
A pretty serious issue has come up in the past few weeks for traveling to Tanzania.
What’s the deal with airlines in Tanzania? https://www.capital.fr/economie-politique/ce-pays-est-tres-touristique-mais-ses-compagnies-aeriennes-sont-placees-sur-liste-noire-par-l-europe-1515325 https://www.charentelibre.fr/tourisme/la-tanzanie-sur-liste-noire-de-l-europe-des-vols-interieurs-a-haut-risque-pour-100-000-touristes-francais-25002566.php
Basically, all airlines have been blacklisted because they don’t meet European safety standards. They’re banned from flying in Europe but continue operating in Tanzania. The main issue is that travel agencies’ civil liability no longer applies to blacklisted airlines. So we can’t allow clients to fly with these carriers. Of course, there’s huge pressure from European agencies, which are forced to disrupt their plans or even cancel trips because of this. Personally, I’ve got a trip planned for February 2026 to the southern parks in Tanzania, so I’ll be keeping an eye on how this develops. Do any of you have updates? Thanks!
Loïc
Hi,
Right now, with the war raging in Iran and affecting all the neighboring countries of the Persian Gulf, many airports are completely closed to all traffic.
Several airlines like Qatar Airways, Emirates, and others have almost completely halted their operations.
Whether in the Middle East or Africa, many travelers are stranded—maybe for a long time... A heartfelt thought for them and the struggles this will cause.
Four months ago, I was in Kenya with a flight booked through Qatar Airways... I can’t even imagine how I’d react if I were stuck there now. ??
Wishing all these travelers courage, patience, and success in making it back home.
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Doha Airport on October 21, 2025:

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Right now, with the war raging in Iran and affecting all the neighboring countries of the Persian Gulf, many airports are completely closed to all traffic.
Several airlines like Qatar Airways, Emirates, and others have almost completely halted their operations.
Whether in the Middle East or Africa, many travelers are stranded—maybe for a long time... A heartfelt thought for them and the struggles this will cause.
Four months ago, I was in Kenya with a flight booked through Qatar Airways... I can’t even imagine how I’d react if I were stuck there now. ??
Wishing all these travelers courage, patience, and success in making it back home.
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Doha Airport on October 21, 2025:

...
Hello, some (potentially) good news for Brazil lovers—GOL airline is launching a route to Europe from Rio, starting in September for Lisbon, then Paris at a later date that hasn’t been announced yet.
They’ll be using their new A330-900 neo.
No prices have been announced so far, but hopefully we’ll find direct flights from GIG at a more interesting fare than AF or Latam…
Hello,
I’m really surprised because in TUI’s new tour packages, the airlines they’re using are of low quality. Before, they used to prioritize major airlines, but now it’s small airlines from small countries—companies with terrible ratings and borderline safety concerns. I even just noticed this note for a Tanzania trip: "We inform you that the domestic flight segment in Tanzania included in your trip is operated by an airline listed on the European Union’s list of air carriers subject to an operating ban within the European Union. This ban only applies to European Union airspace, meaning this airline is not permitted to take off, land, or fly over European airspace. However, this airline is authorized to operate in Tanzania."
This means they’re using airlines on the blacklist!! It’s pretty worrying for safety. What do you all think?
I’m really surprised because in TUI’s new tour packages, the airlines they’re using are of low quality. Before, they used to prioritize major airlines, but now it’s small airlines from small countries—companies with terrible ratings and borderline safety concerns. I even just noticed this note for a Tanzania trip: "We inform you that the domestic flight segment in Tanzania included in your trip is operated by an airline listed on the European Union’s list of air carriers subject to an operating ban within the European Union. This ban only applies to European Union airspace, meaning this airline is not permitted to take off, land, or fly over European airspace. However, this airline is authorized to operate in Tanzania."
This means they’re using airlines on the blacklist!! It’s pretty worrying for safety. What do you all think?
Hello,
We’re planning a cruise to the UAE/QATAR/OMAN starting from DUBAI, with flights departing from Paris CDG. Which airlines would you recommend for round-trip flights, with or without a layover? We need assistance for check-in and boarding/disembarking (my husband is a mobility-impaired traveler who uses a cane and/or a walker). We’ve done a cruise return from Dubai to Paris CDG before in 2016, with a layover in Istanbul, but we booked the transfer and return flight with COSTA. For our current plan, it would be with Celestyal, which doesn’t offer round-trip flights from Paris to Dubai. Should we book very far in advance, or is a few months before departure enough (4/6 months)? We’re thinking of arriving the day before the ship departs, so we’d need to stay overnight in Dubai—either on the way there or for the return flight, depending on the flight schedules. Could you recommend a hotel not too far from the airport, and how to get to the port from the airport?
Thanks so much for your advice. Have a great Sunday! Mum49
We’re planning a cruise to the UAE/QATAR/OMAN starting from DUBAI, with flights departing from Paris CDG. Which airlines would you recommend for round-trip flights, with or without a layover? We need assistance for check-in and boarding/disembarking (my husband is a mobility-impaired traveler who uses a cane and/or a walker). We’ve done a cruise return from Dubai to Paris CDG before in 2016, with a layover in Istanbul, but we booked the transfer and return flight with COSTA. For our current plan, it would be with Celestyal, which doesn’t offer round-trip flights from Paris to Dubai. Should we book very far in advance, or is a few months before departure enough (4/6 months)? We’re thinking of arriving the day before the ship departs, so we’d need to stay overnight in Dubai—either on the way there or for the return flight, depending on the flight schedules. Could you recommend a hotel not too far from the airport, and how to get to the port from the airport?
Thanks so much for your advice. Have a great Sunday! Mum49
Hi,
It's all in the title—this means nothing's getting through, so no more oil.
In Europe, kerosene reserves are still good, but by the end of April, flights will have to be reduced.
European airports fear running out of kerosene if the Strait of Hormuz isn’t reopened within three weeks
Bluff or not? Stay tuned....
Bluff or not? Stay tuned....
Hi everyone,
I’m reaching out to ask for your help with a bit of a problem:
I booked a flight to Berlin from Orly for April 15th—it’s coming up fast. But I just made an annoying discovery: my passport expired two weeks ago.
From what I understand, in principle, I can still travel within the Schengen Zone with an expired passport as long as it’s been less than five years. However, EasyJet’s website explicitly requires a valid ID (and just to add to the fun, my national ID card has been expired for a while now).
So, I’d love to know: how strict are EasyJet’s ID checks? Do they enforce validity rules strictly and refuse boarding if the ID isn’t valid? Or is it more of a luck-of-the-draw situation?
Basically, should I just write off this trip now, or should I still try my luck—maybe with a little tearful plea? Has anyone here had a similar experience? I can’t be the only one, right!
I’m reaching out to ask for your help with a bit of a problem:
I booked a flight to Berlin from Orly for April 15th—it’s coming up fast. But I just made an annoying discovery: my passport expired two weeks ago.
From what I understand, in principle, I can still travel within the Schengen Zone with an expired passport as long as it’s been less than five years. However, EasyJet’s website explicitly requires a valid ID (and just to add to the fun, my national ID card has been expired for a while now).
So, I’d love to know: how strict are EasyJet’s ID checks? Do they enforce validity rules strictly and refuse boarding if the ID isn’t valid? Or is it more of a luck-of-the-draw situation?
Basically, should I just write off this trip now, or should I still try my luck—maybe with a little tearful plea? Has anyone here had a similar experience? I can’t be the only one, right!
Hi there!
Has anyone taken the direct flight from CDG to Las Vegas with Air France?
Looking forward to your feedback!
Hey everyone,
I booked a flight with RyanAir for next month, with the priority+ option and two cabin bags. So I can take a 10 kg bag with dimensions 55x40x20 in the cabin (plus another smaller one). The problem is that the smallest suitcase I have (which is supposed to be designed specifically for cabin size standards, according to the manual) has the following dimensions: 55x37x21, so it's just 1 cm over (wheels included) on one of the measurements.
I wasn’t too worried at first, but I’ve read dozens of stories about people’s misadventures and the hassles they’ve had with RyanAir.
Since I don’t want my suitcase to end up in the hold (that would waste time picking it up when I’m already arriving late and need to get to the city center), nor do I want to pay an extra fee (apparently 50 €) for the outbound and return flights for just 1 centimeter—especially since I paid for the "priority+" option and I’m not exactly rolling in money—I’d love some advice.
Have any of you been in the same situation? I’ve read that with this airline, they check bags in templates (testing them in different positions) and are completely uncompromising. I tried contacting customer service, who, as luck would have it, "don’t handle this kind of request," and a rep I spoke to wasn’t much help.
I know it’s a low-cost airline, and I don’t expect luxury or even kindness, but come on—just 1 cm on a short flight with the + option... I’m a bit overwhelmed by everything I’ve read...
Just to clarify, since I’m going for 8 days, I can’t just take one bag for my stuff. I’ve done that for shorter trips before, and it was a hassle—I even had to buy an extra bag for the return trip... Luckily, the inspector was nice about it!
Thanks so much! I’m a newbie when it comes to air travel :) Hope I posted this in the right section!
I booked a flight with RyanAir for next month, with the priority+ option and two cabin bags. So I can take a 10 kg bag with dimensions 55x40x20 in the cabin (plus another smaller one). The problem is that the smallest suitcase I have (which is supposed to be designed specifically for cabin size standards, according to the manual) has the following dimensions: 55x37x21, so it's just 1 cm over (wheels included) on one of the measurements.
I wasn’t too worried at first, but I’ve read dozens of stories about people’s misadventures and the hassles they’ve had with RyanAir.
Since I don’t want my suitcase to end up in the hold (that would waste time picking it up when I’m already arriving late and need to get to the city center), nor do I want to pay an extra fee (apparently 50 €) for the outbound and return flights for just 1 centimeter—especially since I paid for the "priority+" option and I’m not exactly rolling in money—I’d love some advice.
Have any of you been in the same situation? I’ve read that with this airline, they check bags in templates (testing them in different positions) and are completely uncompromising. I tried contacting customer service, who, as luck would have it, "don’t handle this kind of request," and a rep I spoke to wasn’t much help.
I know it’s a low-cost airline, and I don’t expect luxury or even kindness, but come on—just 1 cm on a short flight with the + option... I’m a bit overwhelmed by everything I’ve read...
Just to clarify, since I’m going for 8 days, I can’t just take one bag for my stuff. I’ve done that for shorter trips before, and it was a hassle—I even had to buy an extra bag for the return trip... Luckily, the inspector was nice about it!
Thanks so much! I’m a newbie when it comes to air travel :) Hope I posted this in the right section!
Hi there,
When I run searches on Skyscanner, I see that only Lufthansa has flights to Seoul with just one stop. Air France doesn’t show up, even though I thought the French airline served Seoul? I can’t even log into the Air France website—it keeps glitching.
When I run searches on Skyscanner, I see that only Lufthansa has flights to Seoul with just one stop. Air France doesn’t show up, even though I thought the French airline served Seoul? I can’t even log into the Air France website—it keeps glitching.
Hi there,
I’d like to return to Uzbekistan next April for 10 days with my husband to visit our son who lives there. We went last July and I bought the flight tickets (direct flight from Paris on Uzbekistan Airways) about 2 months in advance at very reasonable prices. I’ve been checking for late April for a few weeks now, and the tickets are much more expensive and keep rising. I can’t figure out if the prices are going up because it’s still a bit too early to buy and they’ll likely drop if the planes aren’t full, or if it’s because the period is actually in high demand. For reference, last year I bought my son’s ticket on May 30th for a departure on June 3rd—just 3 days later—at a very low price that didn’t budge at all.
Just in case, does anyone know the pricing trends for this airline and can advise me? Should I wait or not?
Thanks, and feel free to ask if you need any tips about the country!
My wife bought a flight ticket (Lucky Air) under her Thai maiden name and was issued a Chinese visa on her new Thai passport but with her French married name (due to administrative requirements). She was denied boarding by the airline in Bangkok for the flight to Kunming—resulting in the loss of our round-trip flight tickets, including mine since we were traveling together—despite presenting both passports at the airline counter at the same time.
Hi there.
I’m planning a trip to Chile, and the fares from the Colombian airline Avianca are really appealing.
Way cheaper than Air France, for example.
That said, the reviews I’ve seen online aren’t great.
What do you think of this airline?
Have any of you taken long-haul flights with Avianca?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Eric
Hi there,
This might be a silly question, but I’m traveling to Japan from CDG and returning via Osaka with EVA Air, and I have a pretty bulky aluminum knee brace. It’s this model: https://enovis-medtech.eu/fr_FR/OA-FullForce-74358.html
Has anyone had any experience with airport security checks or flying with one of these?
Thanks in advance! Best regards,
This might be a silly question, but I’m traveling to Japan from CDG and returning via Osaka with EVA Air, and I have a pretty bulky aluminum knee brace. It’s this model: https://enovis-medtech.eu/fr_FR/OA-FullForce-74358.html
Has anyone had any experience with airport security checks or flying with one of these?
Thanks in advance! Best regards,
Hi there,
I can't seem to find flights between the Cape Verde islands on the airline's website. No matter the date or route, I always get the same response: "no flights on this date." See the photo. Would anyone have an explanation? Surely not all flights are fully booked in July?
Best, Thierry
I can't seem to find flights between the Cape Verde islands on the airline's website. No matter the date or route, I always get the same response: "no flights on this date." See the photo. Would anyone have an explanation? Surely not all flights are fully booked in July?
Best, Thierry
Hi there,
I have a question...
Has anyone managed to get a refund from Oman Air?
After a delayed flight, we missed our connecting flight to get home!! At midnight, the flight attendant booked us on a flight to Nice via Munich, even though we were in Munich and wanted to get back to Nice... Too tired from the trip, we didn’t notice the mistake!! The next day, of course, the booking wasn’t valid!! We had to pay again for the flight back to Nice... I’m really struggling!! I think they’re giving me the runaround!! I’ve sent several emails, tried Messenger and WhatsApp, but the only responses I get are: "We need to investigate!! We’ll get back to you in 15 days!!" It’s been over a month!!
I just sent a registered letter (LRAR) to their office at Paris Charles de Gaulle, which is still open!!
Do you have any other suggestions for me?
Thanks in advance for your help! Virginie
After a delayed flight, we missed our connecting flight to get home!! At midnight, the flight attendant booked us on a flight to Nice via Munich, even though we were in Munich and wanted to get back to Nice... Too tired from the trip, we didn’t notice the mistake!! The next day, of course, the booking wasn’t valid!! We had to pay again for the flight back to Nice... I’m really struggling!! I think they’re giving me the runaround!! I’ve sent several emails, tried Messenger and WhatsApp, but the only responses I get are: "We need to investigate!! We’ll get back to you in 15 days!!" It’s been over a month!!
I just sent a registered letter (LRAR) to their office at Paris Charles de Gaulle, which is still open!!
Do you have any other suggestions for me?
Thanks in advance for your help! Virginie
Hi!
Sri Lanka has announced it could run out of fuel in the coming weeks if the Strait of Hormuz remains blocked. The government has implemented a mandatory four-day workweek to save oil, and there are long lines at gas stations due to fears of an early shortage.
In Vietnam, the government has warned all airlines that flights will need to be reduced due to a lack of kerosene. The country imports two-thirds of its jet fuel from China and Thailand, but both countries have now banned exports out of fear of domestic shortages.
The state is asking airlines to plan ahead and park aircraft to drastically reduce operations, starting with domestic flights and then international ones. International carriers will also need to cut back on their rotations.
This will begin in the coming days. 🙁
Hi there,
I’ve got a long layover (about 10 hours) in Seoul on an upcoming trip.
I arrive from Phnom Penh at 7:20 AM and depart for Montreal at 6:00 PM.
First question: Will my checked baggage be transferred automatically? I have a single ticket from KTI to YUL (Air Canada ticket—KTI-ICN operated by Asiana (codeshare) and ICN-YUL by Air Canada).
Second question: I saw it’s possible to join free guided tours (Airport Transit Tour). What do you think of this kind of service? And is my "actual" layover time (accounting for security checks, check-in, etc.) enough to do one of these tours?
Thanks in advance to everyone who chimes in on this!
First question: Will my checked baggage be transferred automatically? I have a single ticket from KTI to YUL (Air Canada ticket—KTI-ICN operated by Asiana (codeshare) and ICN-YUL by Air Canada).
Second question: I saw it’s possible to join free guided tours (Airport Transit Tour). What do you think of this kind of service? And is my "actual" layover time (accounting for security checks, check-in, etc.) enough to do one of these tours?
Thanks in advance to everyone who chimes in on this!
Hi everyone,
I'm heading to Namibia next May. I'm planning to take a first flight from Paris to Johannesburg with Air France, departing at 11:20 PM and arriving at 11:05 AM in Johannesburg. Then a second flight from Johannesburg to Windhoek at 3:25 PM with South African Airways.
Four hours between the two flights seems enough to catch my connection, but a friend told me I should maybe take the 5:30 PM flight instead because I need to go through immigration, collect my luggage, and check in again. Apparently, I have to do this because I bought the two tickets separately (it's actually much cheaper).
What do you think?
Also, in terms of South African airlines, which one do you think is the most reliable between South African Airways and Airlink?
Thanks for your advice!!
So, even before starting my explanation, I’d like to introduce myself since this is my first post on the forum :) I’m Jérôme, a huge Asia enthusiast, and I’m currently in the process of moving to Japan with my family in 2028.
Now, onto the topic :)
We’re a family of four traveling together to Seoul, with two separate bookings.
Our original itinerary was: Madrid → Doha → Seoul (March 23–24)
The issue is that our entire outbound flight was canceled, and the airline simply rescheduled the Madrid → Doha leg. Now we’re left with an incomplete journey, with no solution to reach our final destination (Seoul).
Since then:
- Can’t modify flights online (technical error every time) - Can’t get help via chat or WhatsApp - Phone support is unreachable, and the usual French number isn’t working right now
We don’t want a refund. We just want to be rerouted to Seoul, as our original ticket promised.
We’re flexible:
- On dates (we can leave on March 21 or 22 instead of the 23rd) - On the itinerary (different layovers if needed)
Have any of you dealt with this before? Do you know how to unlock a booking in this case or get a rerouting? We’re considering going straight to the airport to resolve it at the Qatar Airways counter....
Thanks so much for your help! 😊
Now, onto the topic :)
We’re a family of four traveling together to Seoul, with two separate bookings.
Our original itinerary was: Madrid → Doha → Seoul (March 23–24)
The issue is that our entire outbound flight was canceled, and the airline simply rescheduled the Madrid → Doha leg. Now we’re left with an incomplete journey, with no solution to reach our final destination (Seoul).
Since then:
- Can’t modify flights online (technical error every time) - Can’t get help via chat or WhatsApp - Phone support is unreachable, and the usual French number isn’t working right now
We don’t want a refund. We just want to be rerouted to Seoul, as our original ticket promised.
We’re flexible:
- On dates (we can leave on March 21 or 22 instead of the 23rd) - On the itinerary (different layovers if needed)
Have any of you dealt with this before? Do you know how to unlock a booking in this case or get a rerouting? We’re considering going straight to the airport to resolve it at the Qatar Airways counter....
Thanks so much for your help! 😊
Hi,
We just received an email from Volotea saying our flight time has changed (by more than 2 hours).
The email states "you can request a free date change."
If I change the date, will the flight price stay the same as the original price, or will I have to pay the difference?
Specifically: Our flight on the 7th is 46.25 €, and the one on the 8th is 92.51 €. If we switch to the 8th, how much will we pay?
When I request the date change to the 8th, it says "No additional fees."
Thanks and have a great day! 🙂
Hi everyone,
We’re going on a Nile cruise.
My question:
We’re taking off from Brussels Airport to land in Cairo.
Then we have to catch a second flight to Luxor.
How does that work—do we pick up our luggage, do we have to exit and then re-enter the airport?
Thanks for your help, tips, and advice, etc.…
