Angkor What, est-ce vraiment indispensable?
by Fazen
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Voilà, la question peut-paraitre saugrenue ! J'envisage aller 7 jours au cambodge que je ne connais pas, j'avais prévu rester 5 jours à Siem Reap et deux jours à Phnom phen. Circuit normal , mais je me pose la question , s'il est vraiment utile de découvrir le Cambodge en passant par la case Angkor what , bourré de touristes , vu et revu sur internet et dans les médias. Ne serait-il pas plus judicieux de visiter les alentours de PP , Sinahouk city , Battagang pour bien s'imprégner de l'authenticité de la vie Cambodgienne?. D'autant plus que si la vie me le permet , j'envisage l'année prochaine, una autre visite?
Bonjour ,
Les Temples d'Angkor c'est incontournable tellement que c'est magnifique fastueux , suffit d'y aller seul et de bonne heure faire tout le contraire des visites que les groupes font et tu seras très bien . 😉
Les Temples d'Angkor c'est incontournable tellement que c'est magnifique fastueux , suffit d'y aller seul et de bonne heure faire tout le contraire des visites que les groupes font et tu seras très bien . 😉
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Vos objectifs déterminent votre trajet ...😉
Mais si votre objectif est le Cambodge traditionnel alors ZAPPER surtout Sihanoukville !
Et vous pouvez , pour cette très courte durée rester dans le secteur de la capitale, sous réserve d'en sortir !😉
Tonle Bati, OUDONG, Phnom Baset ...Peuvent constituer des sorties d'intérêt ...
Une idée de ces sorties sur mon blog ... http://kohdach-info.blogspot.com/
Mais si votre objectif est le Cambodge traditionnel alors ZAPPER surtout Sihanoukville !
Et vous pouvez , pour cette très courte durée rester dans le secteur de la capitale, sous réserve d'en sortir !😉
Tonle Bati, OUDONG, Phnom Baset ...Peuvent constituer des sorties d'intérêt ...
Une idée de ces sorties sur mon blog ... http://kohdach-info.blogspot.com/
Roger
Un grand merci pour sa réponse rapide où je peux voir par ta spontéanité que tu es un fervent admirateur d"Angkor what. J'aime beaucoup visiter les vieux temples, car étant passionné de photos, ces visites m'ouvrent l'imagination et cela fait un bien fou au cerveau lol! Un grand bonjour à mon pote l'écureuil qui joue de la Folk country à l'harmonica !
Bonjour et merci pour ta réponse. Super ton enthousiasme pour les Cambodgiens , ton blog est trés sympa , mais au niveau de ton association Poumakohdach , comment y participer ? si cela est faisable. Tu habites toujours à Koh Dach ?
😉😉 Hello Fazen
... Angkor Wat, je suis 😮 que tu te poses la question. je te dis cela, car c' est encore un de ces rêves que je ne pourrai réaliser cette année, mais qui fera l' objet d' un autre séjour ( en prévision ) au Cambodge... alors bien sûr mon post ne t' apportera pas grand chose...mais juste préciser sur les avis de nos amis Barbot et RogerBarthas sont à considérer comme des avis fiables même si l' on sait tous que " des goûts et des couleurs......."😏😉 L' indéfectible enthousiasme a parfois un sens !!
""'il est vraiment utile de découvrir le Cambodge en passant par la case Angkor what , bourré de touristes , vu et revu sur internet et dans les médias."" par évidence chaque lieu " incontournable " souffre de sa popularité...mais bon...n' est ce pas normal ? 😉 Fais un beau voyage, ... avec ou sans Angkor Wat...c' est le principal souhait que j' évoquerai... 😏😉🙂
... Angkor Wat, je suis 😮 que tu te poses la question. je te dis cela, car c' est encore un de ces rêves que je ne pourrai réaliser cette année, mais qui fera l' objet d' un autre séjour ( en prévision ) au Cambodge... alors bien sûr mon post ne t' apportera pas grand chose...mais juste préciser sur les avis de nos amis Barbot et RogerBarthas sont à considérer comme des avis fiables même si l' on sait tous que " des goûts et des couleurs......."😏😉 L' indéfectible enthousiasme a parfois un sens !!
""'il est vraiment utile de découvrir le Cambodge en passant par la case Angkor what , bourré de touristes , vu et revu sur internet et dans les médias."" par évidence chaque lieu " incontournable " souffre de sa popularité...mais bon...n' est ce pas normal ? 😉 Fais un beau voyage, ... avec ou sans Angkor Wat...c' est le principal souhait que j' évoquerai... 😏😉🙂
""Le voyage pour moi, ce n' est pas arriver, c' est partir. C' est l' imprévu de la prochaine escale, c' est le désir jamais comblé de connaître sans cesse autre chose, c' est demain, éternellement demain"" Roland Dorgelès.
A+++ Lisa
A+++ Lisa
C'est pas indispensable dans la mesure où comme tu le dis tu l'as vu et revu sur internet😏😏 Blague à part, oui, c'est magnifique et mieux que sur internet en vrai...Quant à l'authenticité" de la vie cambodgienne, à Siem reap, ce ne sont pas des figurants en carton pâte qui vivent...
"Le touriste apparait comme le principal agent de diffusion du mépris anti touristique. Plus le touriste se voit en miroir de l'autre, plus il le déteste".
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
Merci la miss!
Personne ne peut dire qu'il faut ne pas aller à Angkor .C'est le reflet de l'âme khmère et le joyau de sa civilisation, mais Fazen parle d'un premier voyage...Alors faut il garder le meilleur pour la fin, peut être .C'est à chacun de se déterminer.
Fazen, je n'habite pas à koh dach..j'y ai ma maison (de future proche "retraite"), et j'ai fait une petite maison d'hote, pour ma belle famille . Pour l'asso, bien sûr elle est ouverte .Tu peux la contacter à partir du blog ...ou bien me donner ton mel en MP ...
Bonne journée à vous deux!
Personne ne peut dire qu'il faut ne pas aller à Angkor .C'est le reflet de l'âme khmère et le joyau de sa civilisation, mais Fazen parle d'un premier voyage...Alors faut il garder le meilleur pour la fin, peut être .C'est à chacun de se déterminer.
Fazen, je n'habite pas à koh dach..j'y ai ma maison (de future proche "retraite"), et j'ai fait une petite maison d'hote, pour ma belle famille . Pour l'asso, bien sûr elle est ouverte .Tu peux la contacter à partir du blog ...ou bien me donner ton mel en MP ...
Bonne journée à vous deux!
Roger
Merci pour ta gentille réponse: "un rayon de soleil en ce matin grisate". C'est vrai que c'est une question un peu égoïste quand je pense à tous les forumistes, qui eux n'ont pas la chance et le privilège de se poser ce genre de problèmes ! Je m'en excuse sincérement. Je voulais juste savoir si pour apprendre à connaitre le Cambodge , Siem Reap était incontournable ! . Je cherche à voir différents sites de ce beau pays ety je n'ai pas encore eu la petite étincelle qui m'enflammera. Merci encore pour tes mots sympas ! Franck
bien que la Tour Eiffel soit vue et revue apr les médias, tous els touristes passant par Paris vont la voir !!
Etant donné que tu as une idée préconçue de Angkor, peut-être serait-il bon de te faire une idée par toi-même ?...
Je pense que tu connais déjà les réponses que l'on va te donner. Après, tu es grand fais ton choix !!
Moi, toursites ou pas touristes, je rêve de voir Angkor...
Etant donné que tu as une idée préconçue de Angkor, peut-être serait-il bon de te faire une idée par toi-même ?...
Je pense que tu connais déjà les réponses que l'on va te donner. Après, tu es grand fais ton choix !!
Moi, toursites ou pas touristes, je rêve de voir Angkor...
Il n'y a pas de problème sans solution... et si il n'y a pas de solution, il n'y a pas de problème !
Bonjour Fazen
Nous avons passé 3 jours à Siem Reap en 2001 et éprouvés un grand choc en visitant tous ces lieux majestueux. Nous retournons cet hiver pour 24 jours au Cambodge dont 6 à 7 jours pour Siem Reap et les environs. On a l'impression de voir et revoir Angkor Wat sur le net, la télé, les journaux mais rien à côté de l'immense émotion que tu éprouveras sur place.
Et malgré le succès touristique, tu pourras toujours trouver des endroits plus calmes et proche du Cambodge authentique.
Bon voyage
Michèle
www.kluger.fr
Heureux qui comme Ulysse....
Heureux qui comme Ulysse....
Voilà, la question peut-paraitre saugrenue ! J'envisage aller 7 jours au cambodge que je ne connais pas, j'avais prévu rester 5 jours à Siem Reap et deux jours à Phnom phen. Circuit normal , mais je me pose la question , s'il est vraiment utile de découvrir le Cambodge en passant par la case Angkor what , bourré de touristes , vu et revu sur internet et dans les médias. [...]
C'est à toi de décider s'il faut aller à Siem Reap ou non, tout ce que je sais c'est que j'y suis allé pour la première fois l'été dernier et malgré le fait qu'il y ait des milliers et des milliers de bouquins et de photos sur le net au sujet d'Angkor, c'est une chose de voir des photos et vraiment tout autre chose que d'être présent sur place tellement le site est merveilleux et qu'on se sent écrasé par l'Histoire.
Alors, oui, il y a beaucoup de touristes bien qu'on puisse éviter les grosses affluences en évitant certains moments un peu "cliché" comme par exemple le lever du soleil sur Angkor Wat ou le coucher du soleil sur le Phnom Bakheng et non, ce n'est pas indispensable de visiter le site archéologique d'Angkor, mais c'est se priver de l'une des plus belles choses à voir en ce monde !
C'est à toi de décider s'il faut aller à Siem Reap ou non, tout ce que je sais c'est que j'y suis allé pour la première fois l'été dernier et malgré le fait qu'il y ait des milliers et des milliers de bouquins et de photos sur le net au sujet d'Angkor, c'est une chose de voir des photos et vraiment tout autre chose que d'être présent sur place tellement le site est merveilleux et qu'on se sent écrasé par l'Histoire.
Alors, oui, il y a beaucoup de touristes bien qu'on puisse éviter les grosses affluences en évitant certains moments un peu "cliché" comme par exemple le lever du soleil sur Angkor Wat ou le coucher du soleil sur le Phnom Bakheng et non, ce n'est pas indispensable de visiter le site archéologique d'Angkor, mais c'est se priver de l'une des plus belles choses à voir en ce monde !
quelle idée saugrenue de comparer le site d'angkor sur des centaines de km2 à la Tour Eiffel, un manque de culture, evidemment
oui oui ca doit être ca, t'es mignon, passe ton chemin et retourne voir tes séries policères à la télé, qui sont il est vrai un signe de culture éminent...
oui oui ca doit être ca, t'es mignon, passe ton chemin et retourne voir tes séries policères à la télé, qui sont il est vrai un signe de culture éminent...
Il n'y a pas de problème sans solution... et si il n'y a pas de solution, il n'y a pas de problème !
Bonsoir!
On peut visiter Angkor sans les troupeaux de touristes🙂
"Quand l'injustice devient loi, la rébellion devient devoir. " Thomas Jefferson
« Le doute est l’apanage des gens intelligents, les cons n’ont que des certitudes »
(Alain Leblay)
J'adore tous ces adjectifs méprisants que l'on colle systématiquement aux "touristes" . Des troupeaux, des hordes, ... Tous des cons quoi....
"Le touriste apparait comme le principal agent de diffusion du mépris anti touristique. Plus le touriste se voit en miroir de l'autre, plus il le déteste".
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
J'adore tous ces adjectifs méprisants que l'on colle systématiquement aux "touristes" . Des troupeaux, des hordes, ... Tous des cons quoi....
Par troupeau, j'entends 2 bus de japonais ou de chinois qui débarquent une horde de gens méprisants, qui te marche sur les pieds, te bouscule, te crache sur les mollets etc. ... Libre à toi de voyager avec un tour opérator, et libre à moi de voyager solo, de laisser passer le troupeau sur les sites incontournables. Je te laisse la responsabilité de ton grossier qualificatif que je ne partage pas!
Par troupeau, j'entends 2 bus de japonais ou de chinois qui débarquent une horde de gens méprisants, qui te marche sur les pieds, te bouscule, te crache sur les mollets etc. ... Libre à toi de voyager avec un tour opérator, et libre à moi de voyager solo, de laisser passer le troupeau sur les sites incontournables. Je te laisse la responsabilité de ton grossier qualificatif que je ne partage pas!
"Quand l'injustice devient loi, la rébellion devient devoir. " Thomas Jefferson
« Le doute est l’apanage des gens intelligents, les cons n’ont que des certitudes »
(Alain Leblay)
Merci à tous et toutes pour vos réponses et vos photos. Je ne voulais en aucun cas jeter une polémique sur les touristes de masse, la seule vraie raison , si je les fuis ; c'est qu'en veillissant j'apprécie de plus en plus le calme , surtout sur un site qui mérite pour moi le respect. Bien sur , lorsque je suis à BKK et que je visite les Whats, je m'attends au bruit , à la foule , aux gamins turbulents et cela fait parti du contexte. Mais lorsque j'ai le choix, j'essaye d'éviter cela.
à Thuan; oui t'as surement raison , comment aller en Egypte sans aller voir les pyramides? . Angkor what fait parti du patrimoine historique du Cambodge et il est peut-etre préférable d'aller visiter ces temples pour comprendre le peuple Cambodgien. Ce sont , en parti les whats de Thaïlande qui m'ont fait aimé ce pays .....
Salut Fazen,
j'y ai passé 3jours, et franchement en partant je me disais qu j'y serais bien rester plus longtemps!!!! Je connais du Cambodge que Angkor, et malgres que ce soit l'endroit le plus touristique du pays, on a envie d'y retourner en voir plus (sur le pays, ses habitants et meme Angkor)!!!
Les gens sur le site sont tres sympa (Cambodgiens), et honnetement a part sur Angkor Wat lui meme ou il y a baucoup de touristes (normale) les autres temples autour sont beaucoup plus calme!!!!
Et puis voit le bon coté des chose, a Angkor Wat, tu pourra avoir la visite guidé en Français en tombant sur un groupe organisé de Français😛😄😏, en anglais aussi, italiens, koréens....
Juste un pti truk si tu y vas, fait les visites dans le sens inverse!!! Tu croisera les groupes, mais tu ne les aura pas a coté de toi (ou juste deriere) en permanence!!!
Et puis bon si il y a tant de gens qui y vont, c'est pas pour rien, c'est vraiment un endroit merveilleux, et qui est toujours vivant, ça sent l'encens, la végétation est luxuriante, c'est un endroit magique!!!!
A+
j'y ai passé 3jours, et franchement en partant je me disais qu j'y serais bien rester plus longtemps!!!! Je connais du Cambodge que Angkor, et malgres que ce soit l'endroit le plus touristique du pays, on a envie d'y retourner en voir plus (sur le pays, ses habitants et meme Angkor)!!!
Les gens sur le site sont tres sympa (Cambodgiens), et honnetement a part sur Angkor Wat lui meme ou il y a baucoup de touristes (normale) les autres temples autour sont beaucoup plus calme!!!!
Et puis voit le bon coté des chose, a Angkor Wat, tu pourra avoir la visite guidé en Français en tombant sur un groupe organisé de Français😛😄😏, en anglais aussi, italiens, koréens....
Juste un pti truk si tu y vas, fait les visites dans le sens inverse!!! Tu croisera les groupes, mais tu ne les aura pas a coté de toi (ou juste deriere) en permanence!!!
Et puis bon si il y a tant de gens qui y vont, c'est pas pour rien, c'est vraiment un endroit merveilleux, et qui est toujours vivant, ça sent l'encens, la végétation est luxuriante, c'est un endroit magique!!!!
A+
Un voyage de mille lis a commencé par un pas. (Lao-Tseu ; 1 lis=ancienne mesure chinoise équivalente a 576m définie des la dynastie Qin, mais qui variait selon la région et l'époque, valeur actuelle 500m, le li est une mesure coréenne d'environ 3920m)
pour les pti curieux!!! le chien subliminaleeu
Par troupeau, j'entends 2 bus de japonais ou de chinois qui débarquent une horde de gens méprisants, qui te marche sur les pieds, te bouscule, te crache sur les mollets etc. ...
Je ne me suis jamais fait cracher sur les mollets par un bus de japonais..; Je trouve d'ailleurs les Japonais plutôt discrets, polis, pas grande gueules... Je ne reconnais pas du tout les Japonais dans ce que vous décrivez...
Je ne me suis jamais fait cracher sur les mollets par un bus de japonais..; Je trouve d'ailleurs les Japonais plutôt discrets, polis, pas grande gueules... Je ne reconnais pas du tout les Japonais dans ce que vous décrivez...
"Le touriste apparait comme le principal agent de diffusion du mépris anti touristique. Plus le touriste se voit en miroir de l'autre, plus il le déteste".
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
Merci pour toutes vos réponses qui valent leurs pesants d'or. Si j'ai bien compris , je resterai sur ma faim si je n'allai pas voir ces merveilles. Et puis aprés tout si cela me gave , j'ai cas écourter mon séjour (5 jours) à Siem Reap . Quels temples sont-ils incontournables à la visite? Merci à tous pour vos précieux conseils ! Franck
ils sont tous beaux et seule ta sensibilité te fera préférer un plutot qu'un autre !
ne demande pas aux membres du forum de choisir pour toi , va au gré de tes humeurs matinales ....................
je ne suis pas intervenu avant car mes "cop's" t'ont convaincu d'y aller !
c'est comme aller en Inde et ne pas aller voir le taj , sous pretexte qu'il y a des millions de touristes , il est si beau que c'est un pêché de le rater !!!
la solitude et le bonheur peuvent se faire au milieu de centaines de gens !!
bonne journée
je ne suis pas intervenu avant car mes "cop's" t'ont convaincu d'y aller !
c'est comme aller en Inde et ne pas aller voir le taj , sous pretexte qu'il y a des millions de touristes , il est si beau que c'est un pêché de le rater !!!
la solitude et le bonheur peuvent se faire au milieu de centaines de gens !!
bonne journée
trouver son chemin personnel a travers le chemin initiatique du voyage
Merci pour toutes vos réponses qui valent leurs pesants d'or. Si j'ai bien compris , je resterai sur ma faim si je n'allai pas voir ces merveilles. Et puis aprés tout si cela me gave , j'ai cas écourter mon séjour (5 jours) à Siem Reap . Quels temples sont-ils incontournables à la visite? Merci à tous pour vos précieux conseils ! Franck
En 5 jours, tu auras largement le temps de bien visiter la plupart des plus grands sites. Concernant les endroits à voir, je dirais pour moi :
- Ta Prohm : mon préféré. Osmose du végétal et du minéral, endroit éminemment romantique. - Angkor Wat - Bayon - Banteay Srei : à une trentaine de km du site principal, superbe temple finement décoré, bâti dans une pierre couleur ocre, splendide. J'y suis allé assez tôt, vers 7h du matin, il n'y avait quasiment personne. - Kbal Spean : la rivière aux mille lingas, peut-être pas indispensable mais une petite balade sympa vu qu'il faut un peu marcher pour s'y rendre. A voir. - Preah Khan
En 5 jours, tu auras largement le temps de bien visiter la plupart des plus grands sites. Concernant les endroits à voir, je dirais pour moi :
- Ta Prohm : mon préféré. Osmose du végétal et du minéral, endroit éminemment romantique. - Angkor Wat - Bayon - Banteay Srei : à une trentaine de km du site principal, superbe temple finement décoré, bâti dans une pierre couleur ocre, splendide. J'y suis allé assez tôt, vers 7h du matin, il n'y avait quasiment personne. - Kbal Spean : la rivière aux mille lingas, peut-être pas indispensable mais une petite balade sympa vu qu'il faut un peu marcher pour s'y rendre. A voir. - Preah Khan
merci, merci et merci ! il va falloir que je nettoie mon appareil photo! vous m'avez convaincu que Siem Reap était incontournable ! promis je vous enverrez des photos
Angkor What, est-ce vraiment indispensable?
Chum reap suar !
Je crois que ça ne dépend que de toi, et surtout de tes centres d'intérêts !
Pour ma part, j'avais décidé de ne pas y aller, et de pouvoir consacrer ainsi encore plus de temps à la ruralité cambodgienne, à m'y promener inlassablement à pied et à vélo.
Mais à l'époque, en 1999, j'ai quand-même dû y passer car les banques de Siem Reap étaient les seules, avec celles de Phnom Penh, dans lesquelles je pouvais obtenir quelques indispensables dollars nécessaires à une entrée, juste après le Cambodge, au Myanmar.
Donc, en quelque sorte, j'y suis allé par obligation. Alors oui, les pierres étaient belles, mais finalement ni plus ni moins intéressantes et fascinantes que les campagnes du pays.
Bon choix ! (j'ai pas dis "bon chien...!)
A +
321
200 jours à pied,
seul, sans guide,
aux confins du Laos : CLIC
salut, merci pour ta réponse qui au moins a l'intéret d'etre la plus personnelle ! quelque part , je suis dans le même état d'esprit que toi en 1999, des fois je me dis que d'aller à kho khong ; cela doit aussi être sympa ?
les photos postées sont l'oeuvre d'un artiste newyorkais , dans la série yogy dogs !
Oh ! My dog !
🏴☠️
🏴☠️
"Nous ne sommes plus une communauté d'être humains qui se parlent mais un conglomérat de grappes de consommateurs en niches, séparés les uns des autres par des obsessions diverses et innombrables. Nous sommes de l'ère de la désintégration." Marc Moulin (1942-2008) in Humoeurs
🏴☠️😄😏
Un voyage de mille lis a commencé par un pas. (Lao-Tseu ; 1 lis=ancienne mesure chinoise équivalente a 576m définie des la dynastie Qin, mais qui variait selon la région et l'époque, valeur actuelle 500m, le li est une mesure coréenne d'environ 3920m)
pour les pti curieux!!! le chien subliminaleeu
les photos postées sont l'oeuvre d'un artiste newyorkais , dans la série yogy dogs !
Des photos de chien retouchées sous photohop, c'est l'art ??? 😏
Des photos de chien retouchées sous photohop, c'est l'art ??? 😏
Il n'y a pas de problème sans solution... et si il n'y a pas de solution, il n'y a pas de problème !
Ne surtout pas manquer le temple BAKONG du groupe ROLUOS au Sud est de siem reap
C'est chronologiquement le plus ancien (9e siècle), assez épuré.
Surtout si tu as le courage de commencer ton tour par ce groupe, de préférence à 7-8h le matin, tu seras seul sur le site, (les japonais ne sont pas encore arrivés).
Une merveille au soleil levant, au milieu de la foret.
Il y a aussi BANTEY SREI (le "temple rose des femmes") à 25 Km au nord Est du site d'ANGKOR. Mais tu ne pourras pas échapper aux "foules" Tu pourras poursuivre un peu plus loin sur le site de KBAL PEAN : Une agréable ballade au milieu de la foret
Aprés il y a je crois plus de 250 temples sur le site de 30 km de long. Tout le site est recouvert de forets, Tu auras toujours la possibilité de t'éloigner de la foule.
Bon voyage
Il y a aussi BANTEY SREI (le "temple rose des femmes") à 25 Km au nord Est du site d'ANGKOR. Mais tu ne pourras pas échapper aux "foules" Tu pourras poursuivre un peu plus loin sur le site de KBAL PEAN : Une agréable ballade au milieu de la foret
Aprés il y a je crois plus de 250 temples sur le site de 30 km de long. Tout le site est recouvert de forets, Tu auras toujours la possibilité de t'éloigner de la foule.
Bon voyage
Doc.Bedel
Merci pour tes judicieux conseils que je suivrai à la lettre !
Tout le site est recouvert de forets, Tu auras toujours la possibilité de t'éloigner de la foule.
Bon voyage
Bonjour, Prudence quand même, tous les coins de forêt ne sont pas déminés!
Bon voyage
Bonjour, Prudence quand même, tous les coins de forêt ne sont pas déminés!
"Quand l'injustice devient loi, la rébellion devient devoir. " Thomas Jefferson
« Le doute est l’apanage des gens intelligents, les cons n’ont que des certitudes »
(Alain Leblay)
Bonjour à tous depuis Siem Reap! Après sept jours dans tous ces temples,
je viens mettre une précision dans cette discussion!
Tout d'abord un peu d'orthographe...
Angkor Vat
Angkor Vat ou Angkor Wat est le plus grand des temples du complexe monumental d'Angkor au Cambodge.
So What?
La question de début (qui entraine des dérives complètement hors sujet) étant "est-ce vraiment indispensable"? Je me pose cette question:
Par rapport à quoi?
On visite un pays pour son authenticité, sa culture, son peuple et ses coutumes et aussi pour son histoire. C'est donc à chacun de choisir ce que l'on y cherche. Sans trop m'étendre, si l'on veut vivre l'histoire de ce pays, et je ne parle que de l'époque Angkorienne, et bien c'est tout simplement indispensable. Si vous recherchez de la vie quotidienne, Siem Reap, n'est pas le must, étant saturé de touristes. Phnom Phen était très authentique il y a dix jours pour le Festival de l'eau. Enfin remonter le Mékong puis visiter l'est du pays enchantera les aventuriers, ces provinces étant les moins visitées.
Encore un petit commentaire, Angkor vu et revu sur Internet et à la télé.... Et alors! Vous pouvez toujours zapper et venir vous faire votre propre point de vue.
On peut visiter le temple d'Angkor Vat dans la plus grande tranquillité le matin, car tous les bus y arrivent vers 16h. Le site comprend des dizaines de temples s'étendant sur 40 kms il est facile de trouver des coins tranquilles comme le Ta Nei ou nous étions seul, car à 1 km de marche!
Bon voyage à tous.
www.camion4x4.com en route depuis septembre 2006, actuellement au Cambodge
Marc et Hélène à bords de Bucephale.
je viens mettre une précision dans cette discussion!
Tout d'abord un peu d'orthographe...
Angkor Vat
Angkor Vat ou Angkor Wat est le plus grand des temples du complexe monumental d'Angkor au Cambodge.
So What?
La question de début (qui entraine des dérives complètement hors sujet) étant "est-ce vraiment indispensable"? Je me pose cette question:
Par rapport à quoi?
On visite un pays pour son authenticité, sa culture, son peuple et ses coutumes et aussi pour son histoire. C'est donc à chacun de choisir ce que l'on y cherche. Sans trop m'étendre, si l'on veut vivre l'histoire de ce pays, et je ne parle que de l'époque Angkorienne, et bien c'est tout simplement indispensable. Si vous recherchez de la vie quotidienne, Siem Reap, n'est pas le must, étant saturé de touristes. Phnom Phen était très authentique il y a dix jours pour le Festival de l'eau. Enfin remonter le Mékong puis visiter l'est du pays enchantera les aventuriers, ces provinces étant les moins visitées.
Encore un petit commentaire, Angkor vu et revu sur Internet et à la télé.... Et alors! Vous pouvez toujours zapper et venir vous faire votre propre point de vue.
On peut visiter le temple d'Angkor Vat dans la plus grande tranquillité le matin, car tous les bus y arrivent vers 16h. Le site comprend des dizaines de temples s'étendant sur 40 kms il est facile de trouver des coins tranquilles comme le Ta Nei ou nous étions seul, car à 1 km de marche!
Bon voyage à tous.
www.camion4x4.com en route depuis septembre 2006, actuellement au Cambodge
Marc et Hélène à bords de Bucephale.
Marc en route depuis 2006, vers l'Asie centrale
://www.camion4x4.com
Merci pour ton post plein de sincérité . La question que je me posais , étant donné que pour mon 1° Voyage au Cambodge , je compte rester 7 à 8 jours dans ce pays , je me demandais si pour m'imprégner descoutumes, odeurs , des saveurs, des couleurs etc... de ce pays, il m'était absolument nécéssaire de commençer par Siem Reap et ses temples? . Ton appréciation , ainsi que celles des autres forumistes me sont utiles , car si je n'arrive pas à réserver mon billet d'avion pour Phnom penh , je passerai surement par Trat et la frontière Cambodgienne du sud , alors je privilègerai surement la visite du Cambodge sud et PP , en squizzant Siem Reap ( n'étant pas un fana des visites à cent à l'heure!)
Ps: Désolé pour les fôtes d'orthographe What au lieu de wat (mon insconscience répète le peu d'anglais que je connais......)
Ps: Désolé pour les fôtes d'orthographe What au lieu de wat (mon insconscience répète le peu d'anglais que je connais......)
Nous avons fait l'itinéraire dont tu parles, il est sur mon site pour le moment jusqu'à la frontière. Attention aux ouvertures et fermetures des postes frontaliers en ce moment. Thaïlande et Cambodge sont un peu tendus! Enfin sache que après la frontière à Hat lek, il n'y a rien que des forets gouvernementales (minée) sur 200kms, jusqu'à la jonction avec la N4. On a toute fois aimé diner sur les bords du fleuve à Kaoh Kong, juste après la frontière, sans pouvoir s'arrêter ensuite. Enfin la partie Thaï du trajet est très agréable si tu peux t'arrêter sur une plage, car non touristique. Pour plus d'info: http://www.camion4x4.com/spip.php?article281 et suivant.
Bon voyage.
Marc en route depuis 2006, vers l'Asie centrale
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Trés sympa ton blog avec des photos évocatrices. Cela fait plaisir de voir des forumistes Heureux..................!
ben va voir plutot du cote de Bantey chmlar est a 60 k m de sisophon sur la route 56>
y aura personne d autre que toi et lesgosses du village dans le templke
soiot tu y vas en moto depuis sisophn cest marque et tout...droit ou tu prend un taxi collectif ou un pikup
route poussiereuse
de plus, je suis prof de francais a sisophon et je recherche des bouquin pour la bilbliotheque si tu en as des vieux, n hestite pas et n hesite pas a passer le message autour de toi desso pour ol orhho etc, mais les claviers sont pourriis ici
de plus, je suis prof de francais a sisophon et je recherche des bouquin pour la bilbliotheque si tu en as des vieux, n hestite pas et n hesite pas a passer le message autour de toi desso pour ol orhho etc, mais les claviers sont pourriis ici
Merci pour ton post, bien reçu ton message, le probleme c'est que des bouquins c'est lourd à transporter ...........surtout lorsqu'on voyage en sac à dos! ; Ton idée reste toutefois généreuse et je suis certain que tes messages payeront à la longue. Bon courage pour ta quête! franck
Fazen
La visite des temples d'Angkor est une des plus grandes émotions de ma vie. Et on n'est pas obligé de subir la foule. Tu peux par exemple aller à Beng Mealea, un temple noyé dans la jungle, beaucoup plus authentiquement que Ta Phrom à mon avis en t'arrêtant dans les villages sur la route (c'est à 70 km...) Tu peux aussi aller te baigner dans le Baray un dimanche, au milieu des khmers. Même à Siem Reap, on peut concilier patrimoine et plongée dans la vraie vie des vrais gens
Bon voyage
Merci pour ton sympathique témoignage et je remarque que la majorité des forumistes défendent becs et ongles les Temples d'Angkor . J- 5 semaines et je vous écrirai un post de là bas .................................
Rien n'est jamais indispensable .... la première fois que je suis allé au Cambodge, j'y suis arrivé par la frontière Sud également et tu verras ce n'est que du bonheur, et ensuite j'ai passé une nuit à Sihannoukville et direction Phnom Penh, où là j'ai trouvé mon paradis, et je n'en ai plus bougé jusqu'à la fin de mon voyage, j'avais trouvé l'harmonie avec ce pays et les locaux, tout était en place pour que je m'y sente bien et que je fasse mon apprentissage des lieux et des coutumes ..... et c'est ça le voyage, et bien sûr quand je suis rentré on m'a dit aussi que c'était " scandaleux " d'être allé au Cambodge sans visiter Angkor, mais peu importe j'avais trouvé ce que je cherchais à ce moment précis de mon voyage, et là était bien le plus important ..... Mon arrivée à Phnom Penh ......
Puis quatre mois plus tard, retour à Phnom Penh et direction Angkor ...... Angkor, futur Dysneyland ...... ? tout n'était pas parfait dans cette première visite, mais en fait le charme a opéré bien plus tard, et j'y suis retourné une deuxième fois .... et j'aimerais y retourner encore et encore .... tu feras ta propre expérience, et au hasard des rencontres tu trouveras ton paradis à toi ....
Bonne fin de préparation,
Puis quatre mois plus tard, retour à Phnom Penh et direction Angkor ...... Angkor, futur Dysneyland ...... ? tout n'était pas parfait dans cette première visite, mais en fait le charme a opéré bien plus tard, et j'y suis retourné une deuxième fois .... et j'aimerais y retourner encore et encore .... tu feras ta propre expérience, et au hasard des rencontres tu trouveras ton paradis à toi ....
Bonne fin de préparation,
Ah, les messages de Mister ALAN, toujours aussi intéressants, En réalité , malgré mon post précédent , tout dépendra de Air Asia. N'ayant pas pu réserver sur internet , cela a bloqué , du surement à une mauvaise manipulation de ma part , je vais essayer dès mon arrivée à Suvarnabhumi , de réserver un A.R. pour Phnom Phen. Si cela est impossible , j'irai tranquillement par le sud et rejoindrai PP (où j'espère aller à l'île de la soie, Koh Dah) voir l'association que tu diriges et je remettrai le trip Angkor Watt pour l'année prochaine!.
ben va voir plutot du cote de Bantey chmlar est a 60 k m de sisophon sur la route 56>
y aura personne d autre que toi et lesgosses du village dans le templke
soiot tu y vas en moto depuis sisophn cest marque et tout...droit ou tu prend un taxi collectif ou un pikup
route poussiereuse
de plus, je suis prof de francais a sisophon et je recherche des bouquin pour la bilbliotheque si tu en as des vieux, n hestite pas et n hesite pas a passer le message autour de toi desso pour ol orhho etc, mais les claviers sont pourriis ici
Pour les bouquins - je vais transmettre autour de moi (amis Khmers sur place ou y allant), tu peux me mettre par pm ton adresse mail, à toute fin utile. Si tu veux.
Le temple de Banteay Chmar : j'y suis allée un jour (en allant voir ma filleule à 1h1/2 de piste de là) - mais je ne suis pas restée, car toute seule, personne ne savait où j'étais (en attendant le retour de ceux qui devaient me ramener à Sisophon justement), et j'ai bien fait - j'étais en "nu-pieds", et avais peur des ... serpents ... et il y en a. Des méchants même ! Donc chaussures montantes, et peut-être pas tout seul, et là, ça doit être génial ! (Vu dans un des nombreux reportages de ou avec Claude Jacques)
de plus, je suis prof de francais a sisophon et je recherche des bouquin pour la bilbliotheque si tu en as des vieux, n hestite pas et n hesite pas a passer le message autour de toi desso pour ol orhho etc, mais les claviers sont pourriis ici
Pour les bouquins - je vais transmettre autour de moi (amis Khmers sur place ou y allant), tu peux me mettre par pm ton adresse mail, à toute fin utile. Si tu veux.
Le temple de Banteay Chmar : j'y suis allée un jour (en allant voir ma filleule à 1h1/2 de piste de là) - mais je ne suis pas restée, car toute seule, personne ne savait où j'étais (en attendant le retour de ceux qui devaient me ramener à Sisophon justement), et j'ai bien fait - j'étais en "nu-pieds", et avais peur des ... serpents ... et il y en a. Des méchants même ! Donc chaussures montantes, et peut-être pas tout seul, et là, ça doit être génial ! (Vu dans un des nombreux reportages de ou avec Claude Jacques)
S'il te plait, l'orthographe de ce site, probablement le plus beau du monde, est Angkor Vat, ce qui signifie le temple d'Angkor !
Oui, aujourd'hui les touristes en groupes se massent sur ce site, mais si tu viens très tôt le matin et que tu visites dans le sens contraire aux panneaux flêchés, tu n'auras que tu bonheur.
De plus, visite les temples qui sont plus éloignés, tel que le Preah Khan ou le Benthey Srei, le groupe de Roulos, avec le Preah Ko, le Bakong et Lolei. Tu reviendras les yeux remplis de fabuleuses images.
De plus, visite les temples qui sont plus éloignés, tel que le Preah Khan ou le Benthey Srei, le groupe de Roulos, avec le Preah Ko, le Bakong et Lolei. Tu reviendras les yeux remplis de fabuleuses images.
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Pensez-vous que c'est jouable de quitter Koh Phayam assez tôt pour attraper le bateau de 10h qui part de Khura Buri pour Koh Phra Thong ? Le seul bateau suivant est à 16h, ce qui me ferait perdre une journée.
Merci
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Hi,
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
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Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
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Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
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What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi everyone,
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Can anyone recommend a hotel or guesthouse for under 100 RM that’s nice and affordable? No dorms, please.
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Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
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I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
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Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
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3 nights in Bangkok
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Hi,
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Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi,
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
Hello,
We’re a couple looking for a driver for 10 days to explore Northern Vietnam in April.
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