Un avion de ligne de la Malaysia Airlines aurait été abattu en Ukraine (17 juillet 2014)
by HohYao
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Un avion de ligne malaisien vient de s'écraser (jeudi 17.07.14) dans l'est de l'Ukraine, près de la frontière russe.
L'avion assurait la liaison Amterdam-Kuala Lumpur.
295 personnes se trouveraient à bord.
(source BFM)
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L'avion de Malaysia Airlines, qui s'est écrasé dans l'Est de
l'Ukraine, a été abattu, selon l'agence Interfax
http://www.francetvinfo.fr/...-ukraine_649619.html
C'est le MH17 de la Malaysia Airlines, depart de AMS à 12.00 (parti à 12.31 de Schipol) et arrivé prévu à KUL à 06.10
L'appareil est un Boeing 777-200. Immat: 9MMRD
http://www.francetvinfo.fr/...-ukraine_649619.html
C'est le MH17 de la Malaysia Airlines, depart de AMS à 12.00 (parti à 12.31 de Schipol) et arrivé prévu à KUL à 06.10
L'appareil est un Boeing 777-200. Immat: 9MMRD
Il a été abattu par un missile sol air au dessus de l'Ukraine ! on en sait pas plus pour le moment
Cordialement,
Patrick.
Il a été abattu par un missile sol air au dessus de l'Ukraine ! on en sait pas plus pour le moment
Effectivement toutes les infos officielles agences de presses ++++ confirment le fait que cet avion aurait été abattu par un missile sol air et ne titrent plus qu'un "avion s'est écrasé ..." "mais a été abattu en ..." A suivre , on aura confirmation de la confirmation certainement tres vite car c'est la route de +- TOUS les vols Europe Asie du Sud Est
Pour info le vol MH21 CDG/KUL au départ a fait un demi tour pratiquement au point de décollage pour revenir au T1 et est parti avec + de 5h de retard et visiblement a changé son plan de vol allant + au nord !
Effectivement toutes les infos officielles agences de presses ++++ confirment le fait que cet avion aurait été abattu par un missile sol air et ne titrent plus qu'un "avion s'est écrasé ..." "mais a été abattu en ..." A suivre , on aura confirmation de la confirmation certainement tres vite car c'est la route de +- TOUS les vols Europe Asie du Sud Est
Pour info le vol MH21 CDG/KUL au départ a fait un demi tour pratiquement au point de décollage pour revenir au T1 et est parti avec + de 5h de retard et visiblement a changé son plan de vol allant + au nord !
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen!
Michel France (85)
J'ai modifié le titre en conséquence et Air France indique que leurs avions ne survoleront plus ce territoire.
Mes vidéos de voyages et surtout de snorkeling https://www.youtube.com/user/tsarabanjina
J'ai modifié le titre en conséquence
C'est visiblement ce que font tous les medias maintenant et on va vers un sacré meli melo diplomatique, qui ne fera pas revenir les pax, entre l'Ukraine et la Russie; Kiev a commencer a accuser "a mots couverts" les russes
C'est visiblement ce que font tous les medias maintenant et on va vers un sacré meli melo diplomatique, qui ne fera pas revenir les pax, entre l'Ukraine et la Russie; Kiev a commencer a accuser "a mots couverts" les russes
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen!
Michel France (85)
Tous les vols sont à présent détournés, ordre des gouvernements, le MH 021 qui est parti de Paris avec 5H de retard suite à cette tragédie survol la Pologne en direction de la Roumanie, il va donc évité l'Ukraine
Cordialement,
Patrick.
Site officiel des séparatistes, ils auraient tiré un missile sur -un avion X qui aurait lui-même tiré sur- le Boeing de la Malaysia (source BFM ou LCI). Il y aurait 4 français à bord.
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... le MH 021 qui est parti de Paris avec 5H de retard suite à cette tragédie survol la Pologne en direction de la Roumanie, il va donc évité l'Ukraine
Oui c'est ce que j'évoquais sur mon post et comme je prend ce vol mi aout j'ai regardé sur flighteradar24 aujourd'hui et il a fait un 1/2 tour a la dernière bretelle avant le seul de piste décollage pour revenir au T1 parqué non pas au contact terminal mais "au loin"
Mais sinon la route MH21 CDG/KUL survol l'Ukraine dans 100% des plan de vols habituels ... et aujourd'hui c'est flagrant il change sa route a la limite de l'Ukraine pour contourner le pays
Oui c'est ce que j'évoquais sur mon post et comme je prend ce vol mi aout j'ai regardé sur flighteradar24 aujourd'hui et il a fait un 1/2 tour a la dernière bretelle avant le seul de piste décollage pour revenir au T1 parqué non pas au contact terminal mais "au loin"
Mais sinon la route MH21 CDG/KUL survol l'Ukraine dans 100% des plan de vols habituels ... et aujourd'hui c'est flagrant il change sa route a la limite de l'Ukraine pour contourner le pays
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen!
Michel France (85)
Toutes les compagnies aériennes européennes auraient décidé d'éviter de survoler aussi ce territoire.
J'espère qu'il en sera de même d'Israel/Palestine.
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Effectivement
Je viens d'entendre que Malaysia va avoir du mal a se relever de cette tragédie, 2 B777 perdus en peu de temps avec prés de 600 morts, elle peut faire faillite et donc arrêter ses opérations, j'ai acheté des billets Malaysia PHUKET/KL/KOTA KINABALU/PUERTO PRINCESA pour octobre via une agence sur le net. Maintenant reste plus qu'a attendre la suite des évènements.🙁
Cordialement,
Patrick.
Entendu aussi.
J'ai pour ma part un vol Kuala/kota Bharu puis kuela Terrenganu/Kuala en août/sept.
Ce serait le 4ème avion abattu au dessus de l'Ukraine dans cette zone depuis quelques jours (source LCI).
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..., elle peut faire faillite et donc arrêter ses opérations, j'ai acheté des billets Malaysia PHUKET/KL/KOTA KINABALU/PUERTO PRINCESA pour octobre via une agence sur le net. Maintenant reste plus qu'a attendre la suite des évènements.🙁
La rumeur était déjà dans l'air ... la Cie serait nationalisé je pense que la rumeur va passer en réalité sous peu d'autant que si il est confirmé que l'avion a été abattu par un missile la Cie n'y est pour rien
J'ai un CDG/KUL/CGK et retour KUL/CDG pour aout/septembre mais bon je ne pose pas de question particulièrement !
La rumeur était déjà dans l'air ... la Cie serait nationalisé je pense que la rumeur va passer en réalité sous peu d'autant que si il est confirmé que l'avion a été abattu par un missile la Cie n'y est pour rien
J'ai un CDG/KUL/CGK et retour KUL/CDG pour aout/septembre mais bon je ne pose pas de question particulièrement !
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen!
Michel France (85)
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C'est le MH17 de la Malaysia Airlines, depart de AMS à 12.00 (parti à 12.31 de Schipol) et arrivé prévu à KUL à 06.10
...c'est un vol que j'ai déjà pris, et qui était en code share avec KLM....
...c'est un vol que j'ai déjà pris, et qui était en code share avec KLM....
Comment est-ce qu'on peut faire pour voir par où passe notre vol ?
Je ne connaissait pas ce site..
Je ne connaissait pas ce site..
Avance vers l'avenir en regardant derrière ton épaule . . .
Singapour, Malaisie (été 2015), New York (2015), Thaïlande (2014), Venise (2014), Berlin, Amsterdam, Bruxelles, Londres (2013), Cameroun (2013), Rome (2013), Prague, Vienne, Bratislava, Budapest (2012), Milan (2012), Barcelone (2012)
Singapour, Malaisie (été 2015), New York (2015), Thaïlande (2014), Venise (2014), Berlin, Amsterdam, Bruxelles, Londres (2013), Cameroun (2013), Rome (2013), Prague, Vienne, Bratislava, Budapest (2012), Milan (2012), Barcelone (2012)
www.flightradar24.com
Je pense à tous ces gens et surtout à leurs familles c'est vraiment triste....
Oui j'avais trouvé le site, mais je n'arrive pas à voir par où passe mon vol. Mais bon j'imagine que maintenant tous les vols seront détournés à présent.
Vraiment c'est triste d'en arriver là ...
Vraiment c'est triste d'en arriver là ...
Avance vers l'avenir en regardant derrière ton épaule . . .
Singapour, Malaisie (été 2015), New York (2015), Thaïlande (2014), Venise (2014), Berlin, Amsterdam, Bruxelles, Londres (2013), Cameroun (2013), Rome (2013), Prague, Vienne, Bratislava, Budapest (2012), Milan (2012), Barcelone (2012)
Singapour, Malaisie (été 2015), New York (2015), Thaïlande (2014), Venise (2014), Berlin, Amsterdam, Bruxelles, Londres (2013), Cameroun (2013), Rome (2013), Prague, Vienne, Bratislava, Budapest (2012), Milan (2012), Barcelone (2012)
Pour atteindre un avion de ligne à son altitude de croisière, il faut du sacré matériel.
Ce matériel appartient soit à la Russie ou à l'Ukraine. Maintenant, on ne peut exclure que l'on est procuré aux séparatistes des missiles surface-air.
Par contre, il faut un entrainement pour utiliser ces machines. Si c'est l'oeuvre des pro-russes, il y a forcément soutien. Ces engins sont de conception ancienne, extrêmement complexe à faire fonctionner.
Les journalistes parlent de missiles buk... juste une hypothèse.
Ce matériel appartient soit à la Russie ou à l'Ukraine. Maintenant, on ne peut exclure que l'on est procuré aux séparatistes des missiles surface-air.
Par contre, il faut un entrainement pour utiliser ces machines. Si c'est l'oeuvre des pro-russes, il y a forcément soutien. Ces engins sont de conception ancienne, extrêmement complexe à faire fonctionner.
Les journalistes parlent de missiles buk... juste une hypothèse.
Je suis triste pour les victimes et en colère contre la manipulation qu'il y a derrière.
A qui profite ce crime surtout dans le contexte géo-politique assez tendu en ce moment?
D'un côté, l'Occident a besoin d'alliés également pour contrer la Russie surtout depuis la création d'une nouvelle banque mondiale alternative à la BM et au FMI par le BRICS.
Bref, tous les médias et la clique vont accuser les pro-Russes sur cette affaire. La Malaisie va être entrainer dans un conflit qui ne le sert pas du tout. Et une vague de russophobie va naitre dans le monde après l'abattage de cet avion.
D'un autre côté, L'essor touristique et la réussite économique de la Malaisie ne plaisent pas tout le monde. La Malaisie est consciente du danger qui l'attend, déjà deux coups d'état eu pardon... printemps révolutionnaires guidés par l'Occident depuis 3 ans. Et la Malaisie qui ne veut pas reconnaitre Israël comme un état à part entière.
Bref, la Malaisie doit se ressaisir vite car le chaos guette ce pays (regardez la Syrie, la Libye...)
Et comment peuvent-ils avancer que c'est un missile buk???Sherlock Holmes est sur place?
Et comment peuvent-ils avancer que c'est un missile buk???Sherlock Holmes est sur place?
J'ai modifié le titre en conséquence et Air France indique que leurs avions ne survoleront plus ce territoire.
D'autres n'ont pas attendu ce drame , début mars plusieurs compagnies asiatiques + la compagnie australienne la Quantas avaient modifié leur parcours pour des raisons de sécurité suite de la Crimée , pourquoi la Malaysia Airlines n'a pas suivi le pas de ces compagnies
D'autres n'ont pas attendu ce drame , début mars plusieurs compagnies asiatiques + la compagnie australienne la Quantas avaient modifié leur parcours pour des raisons de sécurité suite de la Crimée , pourquoi la Malaysia Airlines n'a pas suivi le pas de ces compagnies
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4ZVototfO4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNg9vKrKmU8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BT_d5OvDkr4
http://croah.fr/revue-de-presse/crash-du-boeing-777-lavion-du-president-poutine-la-cible-dun-missile-ukrainien/
http://www.lepoint.fr/monde/les-miracules-du-vol-mh17-18-07-2014-1847133_24.php#xtor=CS3-191
interception communications par les services secrets Ukrainiens? http://www.sbu.gov.ua/sbu/control/en/publish/article?art_id=129043&cat_id=35317
http://www.lepoint.fr/monde/les-miracules-du-vol-mh17-18-07-2014-1847133_24.php#xtor=CS3-191
interception communications par les services secrets Ukrainiens? http://www.sbu.gov.ua/sbu/control/en/publish/article?art_id=129043&cat_id=35317
D'autres n'ont pas attendu ce drame , début mars plusieurs compagnies asiatiques + la compagnie australienne la Quantas avaient modifié leur parcours pour des raisons de sécurité suite de la Crimée , pourquoi la Malaysia Airlines n'a pas suivi le pas de ces compagnies
Trois avions suivaient le MH17 : Singapore Airlines, EVA, Lufthansa .MH17 was flying the segment between GANRA and TAMAK along UL980 at FL330, one of the segments of ATS routes closed from FL260 TO FL320 since 14Jul (See notam)
Trois avions suivaient le MH17 : Singapore Airlines, EVA, Lufthansa .MH17 was flying the segment between GANRA and TAMAK along UL980 at FL330, one of the segments of ATS routes closed from FL260 TO FL320 since 14Jul (See notam)
J'ai modifié le titre en conséquence et Air France indique que leurs avions ne survoleront plus ce territoire.
D'autres n'ont pas attendu ce drame , début mars plusieurs compagnies asiatiques + la compagnie australienne la Quantas avaient modifié leur parcours pour des raisons de sécurité suite de la Crimée , pourquoi la Malaysia Airlines n'a pas suivi le pas de ces compagnies
puisque tu as posté en 2 endroits différent je redonne ma réponse
C'est juste un peu de géographie... celles qui disent aujourd'hui avoir évité l'Ukraine sont, a ce que j'ai lu/entendu koréennes ou taiwanaise pour lesquelles la route en transit Ukraine n'est pas vraiment la route principale (comme pourles Cies chinoises) mais a ma connaissance aucune Cie Asie du sud est, ou européenne y allant, n'avait modifié ses plans de vols, Eurocontrole habilitée a délivrer les plans de vols n'avait imposé aucune interdiction ni mm en amont l'OACI !
AF a communiqué ce jour avoir en restriction de survol la Syrie c'est visiblement tout !
par contre oui maintenant plus personne ne fait ( hors trafic local) du transit Ukraine mais avant c'était fort différent !
D'autres n'ont pas attendu ce drame , début mars plusieurs compagnies asiatiques + la compagnie australienne la Quantas avaient modifié leur parcours pour des raisons de sécurité suite de la Crimée , pourquoi la Malaysia Airlines n'a pas suivi le pas de ces compagnies
puisque tu as posté en 2 endroits différent je redonne ma réponse
C'est juste un peu de géographie... celles qui disent aujourd'hui avoir évité l'Ukraine sont, a ce que j'ai lu/entendu koréennes ou taiwanaise pour lesquelles la route en transit Ukraine n'est pas vraiment la route principale (comme pourles Cies chinoises) mais a ma connaissance aucune Cie Asie du sud est, ou européenne y allant, n'avait modifié ses plans de vols, Eurocontrole habilitée a délivrer les plans de vols n'avait imposé aucune interdiction ni mm en amont l'OACI !
AF a communiqué ce jour avoir en restriction de survol la Syrie c'est visiblement tout !
par contre oui maintenant plus personne ne fait ( hors trafic local) du transit Ukraine mais avant c'était fort différent !
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen!
Michel France (85)
Trois avions suivaient le MH17 : Singapore Airlines, EVA, Lufthansa
Voici les compagnies qui depuis mars 2014 évite l'Ukraine depuis l'affaire de la Crimée , question de précaution .
Les deux compagnies sud-coréennes, Korean Air et Asiana , puis la compagnie australienne Qantas et la taïwanaise China Airlines .
Voici les compagnies qui depuis mars 2014 évite l'Ukraine depuis l'affaire de la Crimée , question de précaution .
Les deux compagnies sud-coréennes, Korean Air et Asiana , puis la compagnie australienne Qantas et la taïwanaise China Airlines .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Une chose de sur maintenant cet avion a été abattu volontairement , voir >> CECI <<. 🤪
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Comme je l'ai dit un peu plus haut: A qui profite ce crime??
En tout cas, les attaques sous faux drapeau existent depuis la nuit des temps.Méfiance sur ce qu'avancent les médias mainstream.
Voici les compagnies qui depuis mars 2014 évite l'Ukraine depuis l'affaire de la Crimée , question de précaution .
Les deux compagnies sud-coréennes, Korean Air et Asiana , puis la compagnie australienne Qantas et la taïwanaise China Airlines .
Tu confirmes mes précédents propos pas de Cies du sud est asiatique ni européenne ! c'est malheureusement la pure logique !
Tu confirmes mes précédents propos pas de Cies du sud est asiatique ni européenne ! c'est malheureusement la pure logique !
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen!
Michel France (85)
En tout cas, les attaques sous faux drapeau existent depuis la nuit des temps.Méfiance sur ce qu'avancent les médias mainstream.
Facebook et twitter n'existent pas depuis la nuit des temps et il semble que certains se soient "vantés" sur leur page Facebook d'avoir abattu un avion de transport ukrainien, ceci avant que soit annoncé le crash du MH17 et ... comme par hasard le dit message Facebook a disparu, ... mais ça ce sera facile a confirmer mm effaceé un message reste sur serveurs Facebook
Facebook et twitter n'existent pas depuis la nuit des temps et il semble que certains se soient "vantés" sur leur page Facebook d'avoir abattu un avion de transport ukrainien, ceci avant que soit annoncé le crash du MH17 et ... comme par hasard le dit message Facebook a disparu, ... mais ça ce sera facile a confirmer mm effaceé un message reste sur serveurs Facebook
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen!
Michel France (85)
Bien sur que le message sera retrouvé.
Tout ce que je sais c'est que le 4 Octobre 2001, l'Ukraine a abattu un avion civil.
Je suis triste pour les victimes et en colère contre la manipulation qu'il y a derrière. A qui profite ce crime surtout dans le contexte géo-politique assez tendu en ce moment?
D'un côté, l'Occident a besoin d'alliés également pour contrer la Russie surtout depuis la création d'une nouvelle banque mondiale alternative à la BM et au FMI par le BRICS.
Bref, tous les médias et la clique vont accuser les pro-Russes sur cette affaire. La Malaisie va être entrainer dans un conflit qui ne le sert pas du tout. Et une vague de russophobie va naitre dans le monde après l'abattage de cet avion.
D'un autre côté, L'essor touristique et la réussite économique de la Malaisie ne plaisent pas tout le monde. La Malaisie est consciente du danger qui l'attend, déjà deux coups d'état eu pardon... printemps révolutionnaires guidés par l'Occident depuis 3 ans. Et la Malaisie qui ne veut pas reconnaitre Israël comme un état à part entière.
Bref, la Malaisie doit se ressaisir vite car le chaos guette ce pays (regardez la Syrie, la Libye...)
Bien d'accord avec tout ça. Saura-t-on un jour à qui profite chaque crime du genre, dans cet imbroglio géostratégique ? Les citoyens lambda que nous sommes n'aurons jamais toutes les cartes en main pour comprendre. Même si ce sont justement des citoyens lambda qui sont les premières victimes de ces crimes...
🙁
Bien d'accord avec tout ça. Saura-t-on un jour à qui profite chaque crime du genre, dans cet imbroglio géostratégique ? Les citoyens lambda que nous sommes n'aurons jamais toutes les cartes en main pour comprendre. Même si ce sont justement des citoyens lambda qui sont les premières victimes de ces crimes...
🙁
... là-bas si j'y suis...
Bien d'accord avec tout ça.
Saura-t-on un jour à qui profite chaque crime du genre, dans cet imbroglio géostratégique ?
En fait pour le cas présent il semble de + en + que l'on soit en mode "bavure" ou dommages collaléraux ce qui n'est tout de mm pas la mm chose , mais qui ne va pas ramener les pax ni atténuer la douleur des proches
Face a un évenement tragique de la sorte peut être faut il arreter de tout mélanger et rester dans le factuel de ce vol ça va déjà ne surement pas être simple !
En fait pour le cas présent il semble de + en + que l'on soit en mode "bavure" ou dommages collaléraux ce qui n'est tout de mm pas la mm chose , mais qui ne va pas ramener les pax ni atténuer la douleur des proches
Face a un évenement tragique de la sorte peut être faut il arreter de tout mélanger et rester dans le factuel de ce vol ça va déjà ne surement pas être simple !
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen!
Michel France (85)
Salut Marco
http://www.lemonde.fr/les-decodeurs/article/2014/07/18/le-mh17-avait-il-le-droit-de-voler-au-dessus-de-l-ukraine_4459582_4355770.html
http://translate.google.es/translate?hl=es&sl=ru&tl=fr&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bloomberg.com%2Fnews%2F2014-07-18%2Fmalaysian-airline-took-flight-route-avoided-by-qantas-asiana.html
http://www.lemonde.fr/les-decodeurs/article/2014/07/18/le-mh17-avait-il-le-droit-de-voler-au-dessus-de-l-ukraine_4459582_4355770.html
http://translate.google.es/translate?hl=es&sl=ru&tl=fr&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bloomberg.com%2Fnews%2F2014-07-18%2Fmalaysian-airline-took-flight-route-avoided-by-qantas-asiana.html
qui ne va pas ramener les pax ni atténuer la douleur des pioches
Vu la gravité du sujet, je ne ferai aucun jeu de mots...
Personne ne nie le fait qu'il
semble de + en + que l'on soit en mode "bavure" ou dommages collaléraux
. Mais on dit que ce crime (tuer est un crime) profite(-ra) bien à des parties dans le contexte géopolitique complexe en place (ou plutôt en mouvement) aujourd'hui.
il faut rester dans le factuel
Excuse-nounous d'avoir un avis et des choses à exprimer sur le sujet ...😠🏴☠️
Vu la gravité du sujet, je ne ferai aucun jeu de mots...
Personne ne nie le fait qu'il
semble de + en + que l'on soit en mode "bavure" ou dommages collaléraux
. Mais on dit que ce crime (tuer est un crime) profite(-ra) bien à des parties dans le contexte géopolitique complexe en place (ou plutôt en mouvement) aujourd'hui.
il faut rester dans le factuel
Excuse-nounous d'avoir un avis et des choses à exprimer sur le sujet ...😠🏴☠️
... là-bas si j'y suis...
qui ne va pas ramener les pax ni atténuer la douleur des pioches
Vu la gravité du sujet, je ne ferai aucun jeu de mots...
Ai corrigé ma faute dès que je l'ai vu alors merci d'en prendre note pour le reste ou chacun a son avis !
Vu la gravité du sujet, je ne ferai aucun jeu de mots...
Ai corrigé ma faute dès que je l'ai vu alors merci d'en prendre note pour le reste ou chacun a son avis !
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen!
Michel France (85)
... là-bas si j'y suis...
hallucinant !
http://www.rtl.be/info/monde/international/1109596/crashs-malaysia-airlines-elle-perd-son-frere-sur-le-vol-mh370-et-sa-belle-fille-sur-le-mh17
Crashs Malaysia Airlines: elle perd son frère sur le vol MH370 et sa belle-fille sur le MH17
Crashs Malaysia Airlines: elle perd son frère sur le vol MH370 et sa belle-fille sur le MH17
Oui hallucinant et pourquoi cette famille?............
Leurs avis sur cette catastrophe
http://www.france5.fr/emissions/c-dans-l-air https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px2rfWBW4wg#t=36
http://www.france5.fr/emissions/c-dans-l-air https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px2rfWBW4wg#t=36
Entendu ce matin sur bfm a 8h malaysia remboursera les billets davion des passagers qui ont des reservations a venir qui ne veulent plus voyager sur la compagnie
Entendu ce matin sur bfm a 8h malaysia remboursera les billets davion des passagers qui ont des reservations a venir qui ne veulent plus voyager sur la compagnie
....ce vol je l'avais pris et je n'aurai aucune hésitation à le reprendre.....ou un autre vol MH, qui est une bonne compagnie.....j’étais content de voler avec eux car j'avais un billet KLM, et le vol était assurer par MH....ou le service est le confort sont meilleurs que sur KLM....
....ce vol je l'avais pris et je n'aurai aucune hésitation à le reprendre.....ou un autre vol MH, qui est une bonne compagnie.....j’étais content de voler avec eux car j'avais un billet KLM, et le vol était assurer par MH....ou le service est le confort sont meilleurs que sur KLM....
Entendu ce matin sur bfm a 8h malaysia remboursera les billets davion des passagers qui ont des reservations a venir qui ne veulent plus voyager sur la compagnie
Merci .... j'ai aussi entendu cette info, c'est un geste commercial de Malaysia Mais il ne me viendrait pas l'idée d'annuler mes vols pour cette raison de plus je vais en Indonésie ou j'aurais 5 vols sur des Cies qui sont le plus souvent en liste noire ou qui ont eu des crashes donc ça n'a plus de fin ! ou si on reste chez soi ! De plus moins de 2mn avant/apres ce vols MH17 d'autres vols sont passés mm niveau mm route ! donc a quelques dizaines de secondes près on aurait pu avoir la mm chose avec un vol LHxxxx ou SQxxxx ou n'importe quoi
En Europe Malaysia n'avait visiblement pas trop souffert des retombées MH370 ( le MH17 était quasi plein) et sur Paris le A380 est régulièrement correctement plein ce qui n'était pas le cas sur la Chine
Merci .... j'ai aussi entendu cette info, c'est un geste commercial de Malaysia Mais il ne me viendrait pas l'idée d'annuler mes vols pour cette raison de plus je vais en Indonésie ou j'aurais 5 vols sur des Cies qui sont le plus souvent en liste noire ou qui ont eu des crashes donc ça n'a plus de fin ! ou si on reste chez soi ! De plus moins de 2mn avant/apres ce vols MH17 d'autres vols sont passés mm niveau mm route ! donc a quelques dizaines de secondes près on aurait pu avoir la mm chose avec un vol LHxxxx ou SQxxxx ou n'importe quoi
En Europe Malaysia n'avait visiblement pas trop souffert des retombées MH370 ( le MH17 était quasi plein) et sur Paris le A380 est régulièrement correctement plein ce qui n'était pas le cas sur la Chine
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen!
Michel France (85)
..ce vol je l'avais pris et je n'aurai aucune hésitation à le reprendre.....ou un autre vol MH, qui est une bonne compagnie...
idem , nous avons pris souvent malaysia pour l'australie et la thailande et nous continuerons de la prendre quand nous aurons des tarifs intéressants .
je mettais cette info pour les gens qui ont des billets pour les mois à venir et qui n'ont encore jamais pris malaysia et qui vont vouloir zapper du coup cette compagnie.. qui est très bien.. hélas c'est la loi des séries pour elle cette année.
d'autres ont eu des crash (AF : toronto, rio, concorde) et bien d'autres...
idem , nous avons pris souvent malaysia pour l'australie et la thailande et nous continuerons de la prendre quand nous aurons des tarifs intéressants .
je mettais cette info pour les gens qui ont des billets pour les mois à venir et qui n'ont encore jamais pris malaysia et qui vont vouloir zapper du coup cette compagnie.. qui est très bien.. hélas c'est la loi des séries pour elle cette année.
d'autres ont eu des crash (AF : toronto, rio, concorde) et bien d'autres...
Mais il ne me viendrait pas l'idée d'annuler mes vols pour cette raison de plus je vais en Indonésie ou j'aurais 5 vols sur des Cies qui sont le plus souvent en liste noire ou qui ont eu des crashes donc ça n'a plus de fin ! ou si on reste chez soi !
....bien sur....même si voler avec la Merpati (par ex, il y en a plein d'autres) c'est autrement plus risqué que sur MH...
....bien sur....même si voler avec la Merpati (par ex, il y en a plein d'autres) c'est autrement plus risqué que sur MH...
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Great news for those heading to Bahia / Salvador toward the end of the year.
Air France plans to increase flights from 3 to 5 during the December 2026 / February 2027 period.
Original source: Salvador terá mais voos diretos para Paris durante o verão; veja o que muda | Jornal Correio 1
Tropical greetings from Salvador,
@IvanBahiaGuide
(local specialist, active on the French-speaking Brazil Forums for over 16 years now)
Hello,
Since it came into force, Regulation 261/2004 of the European Parliament and Council, which defines air passenger rights, has faced fierce resistance from airlines, backed by IATA (the association representing almost all passenger airlines).
Beyond the airlines' often abusive—and even frequently bad-faith—resistance to passenger rights, IATA has been lobbying EU institutions for years, with the Council paying close attention for a long time.
As a result, the Council and the Commission have been proposing revisions to Regulation 261/2004 for years that are particularly unfavorable to passengers. The latest attempt nearly eliminated the right to compensation for delays of 3 hours or more upon arrival at the final destination.
However, since this is a regulation of both the European Parliament AND the Council, the two bodies had to agree.
But the European Parliament has always stood firm, consistently responding that passenger rights must be preserved.
After 11 years of struggle, it seems likely that we’re finally nearing the end of the match between the European Commission, the Council (the 27 heads of state or government), and the European Parliament.
Indeed, the Commission and the European Parliament have agreed on a text that will be debated again on Monday, July 6, 2026, with a vote scheduled for July 7, 2026. It’s very likely that this text, which would come into force in a year, will be adopted.
The main changes would be as follows: - Families with children will no longer be forced to pay to sit together on planes; - A flight will be considered canceled (not just delayed) if it departs more than one hour late; - Right to compensation for arrival at the final destination if the delay exceeds 3 hours (no longer "3 hours OR more"). The arrival time will be when the plane, having reached its parking spot, engages its parking brakes (no longer when the aircraft door opens); - Airlines can no longer refuse boarding or charge extra on the return flight for a passenger who didn’t take the outbound flight; - If a flight is canceled, the airline must, at the same time as informing passengers of the event, offer the choice between a refund and re-routing, and inform them of their rights to assistance and, if applicable, compensation; - The airline must, without undue delay, inform passengers of the reason; - In the case of a connecting flight, if the connection is missed and the delay at the final destination entitles the passenger to compensation, the responsible airline will be liable. This is very different from the current situation, where, under the KLM ruling, any airline operating a segment of the flight is liable for compensation. This promises more disputes that the Court of Justice of the European Union will have to resolve if two separate airlines operating segments of a connecting flight are both responsible for the delay. See this case for an example: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2026/04/18/swiss-international-air-lines-la-mauvaise-foi/ Moreover, this case demonstrates in advance another potential dispute: It could be argued that it wasn’t a missed connection since the flight was canceled before the first leg even departed. - Within 96 hours of a flight that could entitle passengers to compensation, the airline must contact them to inform them of their rights and explain the next steps. - Passengers must claim their right to compensation within 9 months. This is very different from the current situation, as Regulation 261/2004 sets no time limit. Currently, national law applies—in France, the limit is 5 years. The airline must respond within 30 days. If the airline refuses compensation on the grounds of "extraordinary circumstances," it must specify which type of case it refers to from the list in the annex of the new regulation. If the case isn’t on the list, the airline must explain what the event was, why it qualifies as extraordinary circumstances with "clear, substantial, and concise" explanations, and why it’s directly linked to the reason given. It must also declare what "reasonable measures" were taken to mitigate the issue. This is, of course, a huge change in the regulation, with the clear goal of preventing airlines from declaring just anything as "extraordinary circumstances" to avoid compensation. - If, within 3 hours of a last-minute canceled or delayed flight, the airline hasn’t offered re-routing under comparable transport conditions and as soon as possible—whether on one of its own flights or another airline’s—the passenger will have the right to arrange their own re-routing and demand a refund for the new ticket, up to 400% of the original ticket price. This is a significant improvement that would have likely prevented the case described here: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2024/01/12/reacheminement-catastrophique-droit-indemnisation-meme-circonstances-extraordinaires-2/ - If a flight is canceled due to "extraordinary circumstances," the airline will only be required to offer up to 3 nights in a hotel. This is a major change, as there’s currently no limit. Expect disputes if the extraordinary circumstances end while the passenger hasn’t been re-routed. - The price of a flight, as first displayed, must obligatorily include a cabin bag. This doesn’t prevent the airline from offering a price reduction if the passenger waives the cabin bag. This will put an end to abnormal practices, such as (just one example) Condor charging extra for a cabin bag on long-haul flights like Frankfurt (Germany)–Puerto Plata (Dominican Republic)–Santo Domingo (Dominican Republic)–Frankfurt. - Free correction of a passenger’s name if requested 48 hours before departure. Note: This can’t be used to replace one passenger with another—just to correct a typo, e.g., Dupont instead of Dpont. - Airlines’ websites and apps must include information on how to file a claim.
It’s clear that, despite a few details, these changes are very positive for upholding passenger rights. It remains to be seen whether this text will be definitively adopted on July 7, 2026, as is very likely, and, more importantly, whether IATA will encourage airlines to loyally respect these new rules or persist in their old habits.
Best regards,
Since it came into force, Regulation 261/2004 of the European Parliament and Council, which defines air passenger rights, has faced fierce resistance from airlines, backed by IATA (the association representing almost all passenger airlines).
Beyond the airlines' often abusive—and even frequently bad-faith—resistance to passenger rights, IATA has been lobbying EU institutions for years, with the Council paying close attention for a long time.
As a result, the Council and the Commission have been proposing revisions to Regulation 261/2004 for years that are particularly unfavorable to passengers. The latest attempt nearly eliminated the right to compensation for delays of 3 hours or more upon arrival at the final destination.
However, since this is a regulation of both the European Parliament AND the Council, the two bodies had to agree.
But the European Parliament has always stood firm, consistently responding that passenger rights must be preserved.
After 11 years of struggle, it seems likely that we’re finally nearing the end of the match between the European Commission, the Council (the 27 heads of state or government), and the European Parliament.
Indeed, the Commission and the European Parliament have agreed on a text that will be debated again on Monday, July 6, 2026, with a vote scheduled for July 7, 2026. It’s very likely that this text, which would come into force in a year, will be adopted.
The main changes would be as follows: - Families with children will no longer be forced to pay to sit together on planes; - A flight will be considered canceled (not just delayed) if it departs more than one hour late; - Right to compensation for arrival at the final destination if the delay exceeds 3 hours (no longer "3 hours OR more"). The arrival time will be when the plane, having reached its parking spot, engages its parking brakes (no longer when the aircraft door opens); - Airlines can no longer refuse boarding or charge extra on the return flight for a passenger who didn’t take the outbound flight; - If a flight is canceled, the airline must, at the same time as informing passengers of the event, offer the choice between a refund and re-routing, and inform them of their rights to assistance and, if applicable, compensation; - The airline must, without undue delay, inform passengers of the reason; - In the case of a connecting flight, if the connection is missed and the delay at the final destination entitles the passenger to compensation, the responsible airline will be liable. This is very different from the current situation, where, under the KLM ruling, any airline operating a segment of the flight is liable for compensation. This promises more disputes that the Court of Justice of the European Union will have to resolve if two separate airlines operating segments of a connecting flight are both responsible for the delay. See this case for an example: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2026/04/18/swiss-international-air-lines-la-mauvaise-foi/ Moreover, this case demonstrates in advance another potential dispute: It could be argued that it wasn’t a missed connection since the flight was canceled before the first leg even departed. - Within 96 hours of a flight that could entitle passengers to compensation, the airline must contact them to inform them of their rights and explain the next steps. - Passengers must claim their right to compensation within 9 months. This is very different from the current situation, as Regulation 261/2004 sets no time limit. Currently, national law applies—in France, the limit is 5 years. The airline must respond within 30 days. If the airline refuses compensation on the grounds of "extraordinary circumstances," it must specify which type of case it refers to from the list in the annex of the new regulation. If the case isn’t on the list, the airline must explain what the event was, why it qualifies as extraordinary circumstances with "clear, substantial, and concise" explanations, and why it’s directly linked to the reason given. It must also declare what "reasonable measures" were taken to mitigate the issue. This is, of course, a huge change in the regulation, with the clear goal of preventing airlines from declaring just anything as "extraordinary circumstances" to avoid compensation. - If, within 3 hours of a last-minute canceled or delayed flight, the airline hasn’t offered re-routing under comparable transport conditions and as soon as possible—whether on one of its own flights or another airline’s—the passenger will have the right to arrange their own re-routing and demand a refund for the new ticket, up to 400% of the original ticket price. This is a significant improvement that would have likely prevented the case described here: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2024/01/12/reacheminement-catastrophique-droit-indemnisation-meme-circonstances-extraordinaires-2/ - If a flight is canceled due to "extraordinary circumstances," the airline will only be required to offer up to 3 nights in a hotel. This is a major change, as there’s currently no limit. Expect disputes if the extraordinary circumstances end while the passenger hasn’t been re-routed. - The price of a flight, as first displayed, must obligatorily include a cabin bag. This doesn’t prevent the airline from offering a price reduction if the passenger waives the cabin bag. This will put an end to abnormal practices, such as (just one example) Condor charging extra for a cabin bag on long-haul flights like Frankfurt (Germany)–Puerto Plata (Dominican Republic)–Santo Domingo (Dominican Republic)–Frankfurt. - Free correction of a passenger’s name if requested 48 hours before departure. Note: This can’t be used to replace one passenger with another—just to correct a typo, e.g., Dupont instead of Dpont. - Airlines’ websites and apps must include information on how to file a claim.
It’s clear that, despite a few details, these changes are very positive for upholding passenger rights. It remains to be seen whether this text will be definitively adopted on July 7, 2026, as is very likely, and, more importantly, whether IATA will encourage airlines to loyally respect these new rules or persist in their old habits.
Best regards,
Hi,
Air Cairo offers good prices on domestic flights and schedules that work for us, but is this airline reliable?
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Georgia this summer and I’ve been comparing some airlines. I’m not particularly set on flying with Pegasus (though it’s convenient with direct flights from Lyon to Tbilisi), but right off the bat, Pegasus states this:
As of January 1, 2026, all foreign nationals traveling to Georgia for tourism purposes will be required to present valid travel health insurance. Guests who fail to provide the relevant health insurance will not be accepted on our flights to Georgia. Sincerely, Pegasus Airlines
In other words, if you don’t show proof of travel health insurance, you’ll be denied boarding. Personally, my credit card insurance has always been enough for me, and I’d rather not take out extra coverage... Have any of you run into this issue before? If not, what do you think? Why is Pegasus asking for this proof? Other airlines don’t mention it at all.
I’m planning a trip to Georgia this summer and I’ve been comparing some airlines. I’m not particularly set on flying with Pegasus (though it’s convenient with direct flights from Lyon to Tbilisi), but right off the bat, Pegasus states this:
As of January 1, 2026, all foreign nationals traveling to Georgia for tourism purposes will be required to present valid travel health insurance. Guests who fail to provide the relevant health insurance will not be accepted on our flights to Georgia. Sincerely, Pegasus Airlines
In other words, if you don’t show proof of travel health insurance, you’ll be denied boarding. Personally, my credit card insurance has always been enough for me, and I’d rather not take out extra coverage... Have any of you run into this issue before? If not, what do you think? Why is Pegasus asking for this proof? Other airlines don’t mention it at all.
Hi,
I bought my flight ticket with my first (usual) first name, which appears first on my passport. However, I have two first names on my passport, and of course, it’s mentioned in the machine-readable zone at the bottom.
I booked with Turkish Airlines (through an online agency) for a trip to South Korea.
I wanted to know if it would be a problem that I only used my first first name on the ticket, while my passport has two. I had requested through the agency to add the second first name, but the airline refused because it doesn’t meet their general conditions. (They must have seen that the last name and first name were the same, and only the second first name was added.)
So, my ticket has my last name and first first name correctly spelled, and when I check in online, I’ll enter the passport details correctly.
I’ll have a layover in Istanbul on the flight.
Thanks in advance for your replies. Have a great day.
I bought my flight ticket with my first (usual) first name, which appears first on my passport. However, I have two first names on my passport, and of course, it’s mentioned in the machine-readable zone at the bottom.
I booked with Turkish Airlines (through an online agency) for a trip to South Korea.
I wanted to know if it would be a problem that I only used my first first name on the ticket, while my passport has two. I had requested through the agency to add the second first name, but the airline refused because it doesn’t meet their general conditions. (They must have seen that the last name and first name were the same, and only the second first name was added.)
So, my ticket has my last name and first first name correctly spelled, and when I check in online, I’ll enter the passport details correctly.
I’ll have a layover in Istanbul on the flight.
Thanks in advance for your replies. Have a great day.
Hi there,
I traveled in June 2025 with Nouvelair Destinations to Hammamet.
I had one checked bag and one carry-on sized 40x24x30, which I usually take on low-cost flights, and I didn’t have any issues. But I just read on a website that Nouvel Air only accepts carry-ons of 40x20x15. I’m flying back to Djerba in June—what do you think? Especially since that size is impossible to find??????? Thanks
Hi, it's my first time taking a plane and I chose EasyJet for a Geneva -> Barcelona flight.
I booked my ticket.
I received my booking reference by email, but I don’t see the actual ticket (barcode or QR code?).
Then I checked in to get the boarding pass with the flight details, QR code, etc. But does this boarding pass act as the ticket?
Because I’ve seen several times online that the flight ticket and the boarding pass aren’t the same thing.
Thanks in advance!
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
We're leaving for Albania on June 18th. When I validated the flight tickets with Wizz Air on Booking, I only put my son's first name but forgot to include his other three first names on the ticket. On the passport: SURNAME: Dupont, FIRST NAMES: toto titi tutu tata On the flight ticket: SURNAME: Dupont, FIRST NAME: toto I can't seem to reach anyone at Wizz Air to get an answer. Booking and Wizz Air's chat say I need to modify it, but ChatGPT says it should be fine. I wanted to know if he can fly like this or if I need to change his ticket? (It costs 140 €, I know I shouldn't have made a mistake🙁)
Thanks for your feedback.
We're leaving for Albania on June 18th. When I validated the flight tickets with Wizz Air on Booking, I only put my son's first name but forgot to include his other three first names on the ticket. On the passport: SURNAME: Dupont, FIRST NAMES: toto titi tutu tata On the flight ticket: SURNAME: Dupont, FIRST NAME: toto I can't seem to reach anyone at Wizz Air to get an answer. Booking and Wizz Air's chat say I need to modify it, but ChatGPT says it should be fine. I wanted to know if he can fly like this or if I need to change his ticket? (It costs 140 €, I know I shouldn't have made a mistake🙁)
Thanks for your feedback.
Hi,
A pretty serious issue has come up in the past few weeks for traveling to Tanzania.
What’s the deal with airlines in Tanzania? https://www.capital.fr/economie-politique/ce-pays-est-tres-touristique-mais-ses-compagnies-aeriennes-sont-placees-sur-liste-noire-par-l-europe-1515325 https://www.charentelibre.fr/tourisme/la-tanzanie-sur-liste-noire-de-l-europe-des-vols-interieurs-a-haut-risque-pour-100-000-touristes-francais-25002566.php
Basically, all airlines have been blacklisted because they don’t meet European safety standards. They’re banned from flying in Europe but continue operating in Tanzania. The main issue is that travel agencies’ civil liability no longer applies to blacklisted airlines. So we can’t allow clients to fly with these carriers. Of course, there’s huge pressure from European agencies, which are forced to disrupt their plans or even cancel trips because of this. Personally, I’ve got a trip planned for February 2026 to the southern parks in Tanzania, so I’ll be keeping an eye on how this develops. Do any of you have updates? Thanks!
Loïc
A pretty serious issue has come up in the past few weeks for traveling to Tanzania.
What’s the deal with airlines in Tanzania? https://www.capital.fr/economie-politique/ce-pays-est-tres-touristique-mais-ses-compagnies-aeriennes-sont-placees-sur-liste-noire-par-l-europe-1515325 https://www.charentelibre.fr/tourisme/la-tanzanie-sur-liste-noire-de-l-europe-des-vols-interieurs-a-haut-risque-pour-100-000-touristes-francais-25002566.php
Basically, all airlines have been blacklisted because they don’t meet European safety standards. They’re banned from flying in Europe but continue operating in Tanzania. The main issue is that travel agencies’ civil liability no longer applies to blacklisted airlines. So we can’t allow clients to fly with these carriers. Of course, there’s huge pressure from European agencies, which are forced to disrupt their plans or even cancel trips because of this. Personally, I’ve got a trip planned for February 2026 to the southern parks in Tanzania, so I’ll be keeping an eye on how this develops. Do any of you have updates? Thanks!
Loïc
Hi,
Right now, with the war raging in Iran and affecting all the neighboring countries of the Persian Gulf, many airports are completely closed to all traffic.
Several airlines like Qatar Airways, Emirates, and others have almost completely halted their operations.
Whether in the Middle East or Africa, many travelers are stranded—maybe for a long time... A heartfelt thought for them and the struggles this will cause.
Four months ago, I was in Kenya with a flight booked through Qatar Airways... I can’t even imagine how I’d react if I were stuck there now. ??
Wishing all these travelers courage, patience, and success in making it back home.
...
Doha Airport on October 21, 2025:

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Right now, with the war raging in Iran and affecting all the neighboring countries of the Persian Gulf, many airports are completely closed to all traffic.
Several airlines like Qatar Airways, Emirates, and others have almost completely halted their operations.
Whether in the Middle East or Africa, many travelers are stranded—maybe for a long time... A heartfelt thought for them and the struggles this will cause.
Four months ago, I was in Kenya with a flight booked through Qatar Airways... I can’t even imagine how I’d react if I were stuck there now. ??
Wishing all these travelers courage, patience, and success in making it back home.
...
Doha Airport on October 21, 2025:

...
Hello, some (potentially) good news for Brazil lovers—GOL airline is launching a route to Europe from Rio, starting in September for Lisbon, then Paris at a later date that hasn’t been announced yet.
They’ll be using their new A330-900 neo.
No prices have been announced so far, but hopefully we’ll find direct flights from GIG at a more interesting fare than AF or Latam…
Hello,
I’m really surprised because in TUI’s new tour packages, the airlines they’re using are of low quality. Before, they used to prioritize major airlines, but now it’s small airlines from small countries—companies with terrible ratings and borderline safety concerns. I even just noticed this note for a Tanzania trip: "We inform you that the domestic flight segment in Tanzania included in your trip is operated by an airline listed on the European Union’s list of air carriers subject to an operating ban within the European Union. This ban only applies to European Union airspace, meaning this airline is not permitted to take off, land, or fly over European airspace. However, this airline is authorized to operate in Tanzania."
This means they’re using airlines on the blacklist!! It’s pretty worrying for safety. What do you all think?
I’m really surprised because in TUI’s new tour packages, the airlines they’re using are of low quality. Before, they used to prioritize major airlines, but now it’s small airlines from small countries—companies with terrible ratings and borderline safety concerns. I even just noticed this note for a Tanzania trip: "We inform you that the domestic flight segment in Tanzania included in your trip is operated by an airline listed on the European Union’s list of air carriers subject to an operating ban within the European Union. This ban only applies to European Union airspace, meaning this airline is not permitted to take off, land, or fly over European airspace. However, this airline is authorized to operate in Tanzania."
This means they’re using airlines on the blacklist!! It’s pretty worrying for safety. What do you all think?
Hello,
We’re planning a cruise to the UAE/QATAR/OMAN starting from DUBAI, with flights departing from Paris CDG. Which airlines would you recommend for round-trip flights, with or without a layover? We need assistance for check-in and boarding/disembarking (my husband is a mobility-impaired traveler who uses a cane and/or a walker). We’ve done a cruise return from Dubai to Paris CDG before in 2016, with a layover in Istanbul, but we booked the transfer and return flight with COSTA. For our current plan, it would be with Celestyal, which doesn’t offer round-trip flights from Paris to Dubai. Should we book very far in advance, or is a few months before departure enough (4/6 months)? We’re thinking of arriving the day before the ship departs, so we’d need to stay overnight in Dubai—either on the way there or for the return flight, depending on the flight schedules. Could you recommend a hotel not too far from the airport, and how to get to the port from the airport?
Thanks so much for your advice. Have a great Sunday! Mum49
We’re planning a cruise to the UAE/QATAR/OMAN starting from DUBAI, with flights departing from Paris CDG. Which airlines would you recommend for round-trip flights, with or without a layover? We need assistance for check-in and boarding/disembarking (my husband is a mobility-impaired traveler who uses a cane and/or a walker). We’ve done a cruise return from Dubai to Paris CDG before in 2016, with a layover in Istanbul, but we booked the transfer and return flight with COSTA. For our current plan, it would be with Celestyal, which doesn’t offer round-trip flights from Paris to Dubai. Should we book very far in advance, or is a few months before departure enough (4/6 months)? We’re thinking of arriving the day before the ship departs, so we’d need to stay overnight in Dubai—either on the way there or for the return flight, depending on the flight schedules. Could you recommend a hotel not too far from the airport, and how to get to the port from the airport?
Thanks so much for your advice. Have a great Sunday! Mum49
Hi,
It's all in the title—this means nothing's getting through, so no more oil.
In Europe, kerosene reserves are still good, but by the end of April, flights will have to be reduced.
European airports fear running out of kerosene if the Strait of Hormuz isn’t reopened within three weeks
Bluff or not? Stay tuned....
Bluff or not? Stay tuned....
Hi everyone,
I’m reaching out to ask for your help with a bit of a problem:
I booked a flight to Berlin from Orly for April 15th—it’s coming up fast. But I just made an annoying discovery: my passport expired two weeks ago.
From what I understand, in principle, I can still travel within the Schengen Zone with an expired passport as long as it’s been less than five years. However, EasyJet’s website explicitly requires a valid ID (and just to add to the fun, my national ID card has been expired for a while now).
So, I’d love to know: how strict are EasyJet’s ID checks? Do they enforce validity rules strictly and refuse boarding if the ID isn’t valid? Or is it more of a luck-of-the-draw situation?
Basically, should I just write off this trip now, or should I still try my luck—maybe with a little tearful plea? Has anyone here had a similar experience? I can’t be the only one, right!
I’m reaching out to ask for your help with a bit of a problem:
I booked a flight to Berlin from Orly for April 15th—it’s coming up fast. But I just made an annoying discovery: my passport expired two weeks ago.
From what I understand, in principle, I can still travel within the Schengen Zone with an expired passport as long as it’s been less than five years. However, EasyJet’s website explicitly requires a valid ID (and just to add to the fun, my national ID card has been expired for a while now).
So, I’d love to know: how strict are EasyJet’s ID checks? Do they enforce validity rules strictly and refuse boarding if the ID isn’t valid? Or is it more of a luck-of-the-draw situation?
Basically, should I just write off this trip now, or should I still try my luck—maybe with a little tearful plea? Has anyone here had a similar experience? I can’t be the only one, right!
Hi there!
Has anyone taken the direct flight from CDG to Las Vegas with Air France?
Looking forward to your feedback!
Hey everyone,
I booked a flight with RyanAir for next month, with the priority+ option and two cabin bags. So I can take a 10 kg bag with dimensions 55x40x20 in the cabin (plus another smaller one). The problem is that the smallest suitcase I have (which is supposed to be designed specifically for cabin size standards, according to the manual) has the following dimensions: 55x37x21, so it's just 1 cm over (wheels included) on one of the measurements.
I wasn’t too worried at first, but I’ve read dozens of stories about people’s misadventures and the hassles they’ve had with RyanAir.
Since I don’t want my suitcase to end up in the hold (that would waste time picking it up when I’m already arriving late and need to get to the city center), nor do I want to pay an extra fee (apparently 50 €) for the outbound and return flights for just 1 centimeter—especially since I paid for the "priority+" option and I’m not exactly rolling in money—I’d love some advice.
Have any of you been in the same situation? I’ve read that with this airline, they check bags in templates (testing them in different positions) and are completely uncompromising. I tried contacting customer service, who, as luck would have it, "don’t handle this kind of request," and a rep I spoke to wasn’t much help.
I know it’s a low-cost airline, and I don’t expect luxury or even kindness, but come on—just 1 cm on a short flight with the + option... I’m a bit overwhelmed by everything I’ve read...
Just to clarify, since I’m going for 8 days, I can’t just take one bag for my stuff. I’ve done that for shorter trips before, and it was a hassle—I even had to buy an extra bag for the return trip... Luckily, the inspector was nice about it!
Thanks so much! I’m a newbie when it comes to air travel :) Hope I posted this in the right section!
I booked a flight with RyanAir for next month, with the priority+ option and two cabin bags. So I can take a 10 kg bag with dimensions 55x40x20 in the cabin (plus another smaller one). The problem is that the smallest suitcase I have (which is supposed to be designed specifically for cabin size standards, according to the manual) has the following dimensions: 55x37x21, so it's just 1 cm over (wheels included) on one of the measurements.
I wasn’t too worried at first, but I’ve read dozens of stories about people’s misadventures and the hassles they’ve had with RyanAir.
Since I don’t want my suitcase to end up in the hold (that would waste time picking it up when I’m already arriving late and need to get to the city center), nor do I want to pay an extra fee (apparently 50 €) for the outbound and return flights for just 1 centimeter—especially since I paid for the "priority+" option and I’m not exactly rolling in money—I’d love some advice.
Have any of you been in the same situation? I’ve read that with this airline, they check bags in templates (testing them in different positions) and are completely uncompromising. I tried contacting customer service, who, as luck would have it, "don’t handle this kind of request," and a rep I spoke to wasn’t much help.
I know it’s a low-cost airline, and I don’t expect luxury or even kindness, but come on—just 1 cm on a short flight with the + option... I’m a bit overwhelmed by everything I’ve read...
Just to clarify, since I’m going for 8 days, I can’t just take one bag for my stuff. I’ve done that for shorter trips before, and it was a hassle—I even had to buy an extra bag for the return trip... Luckily, the inspector was nice about it!
Thanks so much! I’m a newbie when it comes to air travel :) Hope I posted this in the right section!
Hi there,
When I run searches on Skyscanner, I see that only Lufthansa has flights to Seoul with just one stop. Air France doesn’t show up, even though I thought the French airline served Seoul? I can’t even log into the Air France website—it keeps glitching.
When I run searches on Skyscanner, I see that only Lufthansa has flights to Seoul with just one stop. Air France doesn’t show up, even though I thought the French airline served Seoul? I can’t even log into the Air France website—it keeps glitching.
Hi there,
I’d like to return to Uzbekistan next April for 10 days with my husband to visit our son who lives there. We went last July and I bought the flight tickets (direct flight from Paris on Uzbekistan Airways) about 2 months in advance at very reasonable prices. I’ve been checking for late April for a few weeks now, and the tickets are much more expensive and keep rising. I can’t figure out if the prices are going up because it’s still a bit too early to buy and they’ll likely drop if the planes aren’t full, or if it’s because the period is actually in high demand. For reference, last year I bought my son’s ticket on May 30th for a departure on June 3rd—just 3 days later—at a very low price that didn’t budge at all.
Just in case, does anyone know the pricing trends for this airline and can advise me? Should I wait or not?
Thanks, and feel free to ask if you need any tips about the country!
My wife bought a flight ticket (Lucky Air) under her Thai maiden name and was issued a Chinese visa on her new Thai passport but with her French married name (due to administrative requirements). She was denied boarding by the airline in Bangkok for the flight to Kunming—resulting in the loss of our round-trip flight tickets, including mine since we were traveling together—despite presenting both passports at the airline counter at the same time.
Hi there.
I’m planning a trip to Chile, and the fares from the Colombian airline Avianca are really appealing.
Way cheaper than Air France, for example.
That said, the reviews I’ve seen online aren’t great.
What do you think of this airline?
Have any of you taken long-haul flights with Avianca?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Eric
Hi there,
This might be a silly question, but I’m traveling to Japan from CDG and returning via Osaka with EVA Air, and I have a pretty bulky aluminum knee brace. It’s this model: https://enovis-medtech.eu/fr_FR/OA-FullForce-74358.html
Has anyone had any experience with airport security checks or flying with one of these?
Thanks in advance! Best regards,
This might be a silly question, but I’m traveling to Japan from CDG and returning via Osaka with EVA Air, and I have a pretty bulky aluminum knee brace. It’s this model: https://enovis-medtech.eu/fr_FR/OA-FullForce-74358.html
Has anyone had any experience with airport security checks or flying with one of these?
Thanks in advance! Best regards,
Hi there,
I can't seem to find flights between the Cape Verde islands on the airline's website. No matter the date or route, I always get the same response: "no flights on this date." See the photo. Would anyone have an explanation? Surely not all flights are fully booked in July?
Best, Thierry
I can't seem to find flights between the Cape Verde islands on the airline's website. No matter the date or route, I always get the same response: "no flights on this date." See the photo. Would anyone have an explanation? Surely not all flights are fully booked in July?
Best, Thierry
Hi there,
I have a question...
Has anyone managed to get a refund from Oman Air?
After a delayed flight, we missed our connecting flight to get home!! At midnight, the flight attendant booked us on a flight to Nice via Munich, even though we were in Munich and wanted to get back to Nice... Too tired from the trip, we didn’t notice the mistake!! The next day, of course, the booking wasn’t valid!! We had to pay again for the flight back to Nice... I’m really struggling!! I think they’re giving me the runaround!! I’ve sent several emails, tried Messenger and WhatsApp, but the only responses I get are: "We need to investigate!! We’ll get back to you in 15 days!!" It’s been over a month!!
I just sent a registered letter (LRAR) to their office at Paris Charles de Gaulle, which is still open!!
Do you have any other suggestions for me?
Thanks in advance for your help! Virginie
After a delayed flight, we missed our connecting flight to get home!! At midnight, the flight attendant booked us on a flight to Nice via Munich, even though we were in Munich and wanted to get back to Nice... Too tired from the trip, we didn’t notice the mistake!! The next day, of course, the booking wasn’t valid!! We had to pay again for the flight back to Nice... I’m really struggling!! I think they’re giving me the runaround!! I’ve sent several emails, tried Messenger and WhatsApp, but the only responses I get are: "We need to investigate!! We’ll get back to you in 15 days!!" It’s been over a month!!
I just sent a registered letter (LRAR) to their office at Paris Charles de Gaulle, which is still open!!
Do you have any other suggestions for me?
Thanks in advance for your help! Virginie
Hi!
Sri Lanka has announced it could run out of fuel in the coming weeks if the Strait of Hormuz remains blocked. The government has implemented a mandatory four-day workweek to save oil, and there are long lines at gas stations due to fears of an early shortage.
In Vietnam, the government has warned all airlines that flights will need to be reduced due to a lack of kerosene. The country imports two-thirds of its jet fuel from China and Thailand, but both countries have now banned exports out of fear of domestic shortages.
The state is asking airlines to plan ahead and park aircraft to drastically reduce operations, starting with domestic flights and then international ones. International carriers will also need to cut back on their rotations.
This will begin in the coming days. 🙁
Hi there,
I’ve got a long layover (about 10 hours) in Seoul on an upcoming trip.
I arrive from Phnom Penh at 7:20 AM and depart for Montreal at 6:00 PM.
First question: Will my checked baggage be transferred automatically? I have a single ticket from KTI to YUL (Air Canada ticket—KTI-ICN operated by Asiana (codeshare) and ICN-YUL by Air Canada).
Second question: I saw it’s possible to join free guided tours (Airport Transit Tour). What do you think of this kind of service? And is my "actual" layover time (accounting for security checks, check-in, etc.) enough to do one of these tours?
Thanks in advance to everyone who chimes in on this!
First question: Will my checked baggage be transferred automatically? I have a single ticket from KTI to YUL (Air Canada ticket—KTI-ICN operated by Asiana (codeshare) and ICN-YUL by Air Canada).
Second question: I saw it’s possible to join free guided tours (Airport Transit Tour). What do you think of this kind of service? And is my "actual" layover time (accounting for security checks, check-in, etc.) enough to do one of these tours?
Thanks in advance to everyone who chimes in on this!
Hi everyone,
I'm heading to Namibia next May. I'm planning to take a first flight from Paris to Johannesburg with Air France, departing at 11:20 PM and arriving at 11:05 AM in Johannesburg. Then a second flight from Johannesburg to Windhoek at 3:25 PM with South African Airways.
Four hours between the two flights seems enough to catch my connection, but a friend told me I should maybe take the 5:30 PM flight instead because I need to go through immigration, collect my luggage, and check in again. Apparently, I have to do this because I bought the two tickets separately (it's actually much cheaper).
What do you think?
Also, in terms of South African airlines, which one do you think is the most reliable between South African Airways and Airlink?
Thanks for your advice!!
So, even before starting my explanation, I’d like to introduce myself since this is my first post on the forum :) I’m Jérôme, a huge Asia enthusiast, and I’m currently in the process of moving to Japan with my family in 2028.
Now, onto the topic :)
We’re a family of four traveling together to Seoul, with two separate bookings.
Our original itinerary was: Madrid → Doha → Seoul (March 23–24)
The issue is that our entire outbound flight was canceled, and the airline simply rescheduled the Madrid → Doha leg. Now we’re left with an incomplete journey, with no solution to reach our final destination (Seoul).
Since then:
- Can’t modify flights online (technical error every time) - Can’t get help via chat or WhatsApp - Phone support is unreachable, and the usual French number isn’t working right now
We don’t want a refund. We just want to be rerouted to Seoul, as our original ticket promised.
We’re flexible:
- On dates (we can leave on March 21 or 22 instead of the 23rd) - On the itinerary (different layovers if needed)
Have any of you dealt with this before? Do you know how to unlock a booking in this case or get a rerouting? We’re considering going straight to the airport to resolve it at the Qatar Airways counter....
Thanks so much for your help! 😊
Now, onto the topic :)
We’re a family of four traveling together to Seoul, with two separate bookings.
Our original itinerary was: Madrid → Doha → Seoul (March 23–24)
The issue is that our entire outbound flight was canceled, and the airline simply rescheduled the Madrid → Doha leg. Now we’re left with an incomplete journey, with no solution to reach our final destination (Seoul).
Since then:
- Can’t modify flights online (technical error every time) - Can’t get help via chat or WhatsApp - Phone support is unreachable, and the usual French number isn’t working right now
We don’t want a refund. We just want to be rerouted to Seoul, as our original ticket promised.
We’re flexible:
- On dates (we can leave on March 21 or 22 instead of the 23rd) - On the itinerary (different layovers if needed)
Have any of you dealt with this before? Do you know how to unlock a booking in this case or get a rerouting? We’re considering going straight to the airport to resolve it at the Qatar Airways counter....
Thanks so much for your help! 😊
Hi,
We just received an email from Volotea saying our flight time has changed (by more than 2 hours).
The email states "you can request a free date change."
If I change the date, will the flight price stay the same as the original price, or will I have to pay the difference?
Specifically: Our flight on the 7th is 46.25 €, and the one on the 8th is 92.51 €. If we switch to the 8th, how much will we pay?
When I request the date change to the 8th, it says "No additional fees."
Thanks and have a great day! 🙂
Hi everyone,
We’re going on a Nile cruise.
My question:
We’re taking off from Brussels Airport to land in Cairo.
Then we have to catch a second flight to Luxor.
How does that work—do we pick up our luggage, do we have to exit and then re-enter the airport?
Thanks for your help, tips, and advice, etc.…








