je souhaite savoir si je peux faire ma premiere entrer un visa délivré par le Consulat de France?au Portugal puis je rentre en France. Puisque j'ai pris des billet de multi destination (Marrakech-Porto) et après (Porto-Paris)- (Paris-Marrakech)
Voyager au Portugal avec un visa délivré par le consulat de France?
by JihaneEl
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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bonjour
je souhaite savoir si je peux faire ma premiere entrer un visa délivré par le Consulat de France?au Portugal puis je rentre en France. Puisque j'ai pris des billet de multi destination (Marrakech-Porto) et après (Porto-Paris)- (Paris-Marrakech)
je souhaite savoir si je peux faire ma premiere entrer un visa délivré par le Consulat de France?au Portugal puis je rentre en France. Puisque j'ai pris des billet de multi destination (Marrakech-Porto) et après (Porto-Paris)- (Paris-Marrakech)
Bonjour
Vous devez faire le visa Schengen pour le premier pays d'arrivé, soit le Portugal .
Vous devez faire le visa Schengen pour le premier pays d'arrivé, soit le Portugal .
Hasta la vista
Bonjour,
Bonjour Vous devez faire le visa Schengen pour le premier pays d'arrivé, soit le Portugal .
Je pense que ce qui l'intéresse est de savoir ce qu'elle risque ; elle risque quoi ?
Michel
Bonjour Vous devez faire le visa Schengen pour le premier pays d'arrivé, soit le Portugal .
Je pense que ce qui l'intéresse est de savoir ce qu'elle risque ; elle risque quoi ?
Michel
Bonjour
Vous devez faire le visa Schengen pour le premier pays d'arrivé, soit le Portugal .
oui et non - oui si on ne va qu'au Portugal - non si la partie la plus importante du séjour est en France et que l'on en a la preuve et dans ce cas le visa peut être demandé dans le pays "principal du voyage"
En clair 1 mois de séjour avec 1 sem au Portugal suivi 3 sem en France OK par contre 3/4 sem au Portugal et seulement 1 ou 2 jours en France ... ça coincera surement a l'arrivée
PS les détails sont sur le site des visas Schengen
oui et non - oui si on ne va qu'au Portugal - non si la partie la plus importante du séjour est en France et que l'on en a la preuve et dans ce cas le visa peut être demandé dans le pays "principal du voyage"
En clair 1 mois de séjour avec 1 sem au Portugal suivi 3 sem en France OK par contre 3/4 sem au Portugal et seulement 1 ou 2 jours en France ... ça coincera surement a l'arrivée
PS les détails sont sur le site des visas Schengen
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen!
Michel France (85)
J’ai un visas Shengen
Mais j’ai que 3 jours à Portugal et 1semaine en France
Pour commencer, quel visa vous a délivré le consulat français ? Le visa Schengen uniforme, le visa à validité territoriale limitée ou le visa national ?
Pour les touristes (- de 3 mois si ma mémoire est bonne) Il n'y a PLUS de visa national uniquement visa Schengen
Pour les touristes (- de 3 mois si ma mémoire est bonne) Il n'y a PLUS de visa national uniquement visa Schengen
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen!
Michel France (85)
J’ai un visas Shengen
Mais j’ai que 3 jours à Portugal et 1semaine en France
Donc ton visa a bien été délivré dans le pays ou tu resteras le plus longtemps et tu as les billets** de continuation et retour donc tu n'auras pas de pbl coté visa
** bien avoir une copie des billets qui te seront demandés a l'arrivée au Portugal
Donc ton visa a bien été délivré dans le pays ou tu resteras le plus longtemps et tu as les billets** de continuation et retour donc tu n'auras pas de pbl coté visa
** bien avoir une copie des billets qui te seront demandés a l'arrivée au Portugal
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen!
Michel France (85)
J’ai un visas Shengen
Mais j’ai que 3 jours à Portugal et 1semaine en France
Donc ton visa a bien été délivré dans le pays ou tu resteras le plus longtemps et tu as les billets** de continuation et retour donc tu n'auras pas de pbl coté visa
** bien avoir une copie des billets qui te seront demandés a l'arrivée au Portugal
Merci beaucoup pour votre réponse ca me soulage. ( merci pour vous tous de votre réactivité a ma demande)🙏🏻
Donc ton visa a bien été délivré dans le pays ou tu resteras le plus longtemps et tu as les billets** de continuation et retour donc tu n'auras pas de pbl coté visa
** bien avoir une copie des billets qui te seront demandés a l'arrivée au Portugal
Merci beaucoup pour votre réponse ca me soulage. ( merci pour vous tous de votre réactivité a ma demande)🙏🏻
Bonjour,
Qui parle de risque ? vous toujours aussi constructif
Son visa, il est fait, ses billets, elle les a, son voyage, il est prêt ; elle s'inquiète et vient poser une question. Vous lui répondez comment elle aurait dû faire son visa... Pour le plus constructif des deux, entre nous, j'hésite...
Michel
Qui parle de risque ? vous toujours aussi constructif
Son visa, il est fait, ses billets, elle les a, son voyage, il est prêt ; elle s'inquiète et vient poser une question. Vous lui répondez comment elle aurait dû faire son visa... Pour le plus constructif des deux, entre nous, j'hésite...
Michel
Salut,
Il y a un gros risque de refus d'embarquement.
Voici l'exemple de l'Algérie:
Avec un visa Schengen délivré par la France, certaines sont passées par l'Italie, elles ont vu leur visa annulé par la police de l'air italienne, et elles furent renvoyées en Algérie, aux frais de air Algérie.

Et depuis, Air Algérie refuse l'embarquement aux passagers qui ne vont pas directement au pays Schengen, qui leur a délivré leurs visas.


Et depuis, Air Algérie refuse l'embarquement aux passagers qui ne vont pas directement au pays Schengen, qui leur a délivré leurs visas.


Cordialement
Fayd
Allons, allons.
Pourquoi vouloir faire peur inutilement en faisant feu de tout bois ? C'est faux.
Air Algérie s'était emballé un peu vite à l'époque (en 2016 soit trois ans). www.huffpostmaghreb.com/...erie_n_10103576.html Ils ont persisté www.algerie-focus.com/...geurs/?cn-reloaded=1 J'ignore ce qu'il en est trois ans plus tard.
Cela avait également fait l'objet de précisions de l'Europe et du consulat de France. alger.consulfrance.org/...n-d-un-visa-Schengen
Donc l'entrée doit se faire comme expliqué plus haut.
Après si le voyageur ne fait pas ce qu'il a déclaré dans la demande de visa (comme cela a apparemment été le cas en Italie) ou bien s'il ne se présente pas aux postes frontières avec les documents demandés, c'est autre chose.
C'est ici que se trouve le risque de demander un visa dans un pays et de ne pas y faire son entrée.
Pourquoi vouloir faire peur inutilement en faisant feu de tout bois ? C'est faux.
Air Algérie s'était emballé un peu vite à l'époque (en 2016 soit trois ans). www.huffpostmaghreb.com/...erie_n_10103576.html Ils ont persisté www.algerie-focus.com/...geurs/?cn-reloaded=1 J'ignore ce qu'il en est trois ans plus tard.
Cela avait également fait l'objet de précisions de l'Europe et du consulat de France. alger.consulfrance.org/...n-d-un-visa-Schengen
Donc l'entrée doit se faire comme expliqué plus haut.
Après si le voyageur ne fait pas ce qu'il a déclaré dans la demande de visa (comme cela a apparemment été le cas en Italie) ou bien s'il ne se présente pas aux postes frontières avec les documents demandés, c'est autre chose.
C'est ici que se trouve le risque de demander un visa dans un pays et de ne pas y faire son entrée.
Pourquoi vouloir faire peur inutilement en faisant feu de tout bois ?
Idem pour TUNIS AIR,
Et en plus, ils scannent le visa en connection avec la paf française, et si le feu 😛 vert ne s'allume pas, pas d'embarquement.
Vaut mieux prévenir que périr😉.
A bon entendeur...
Idem pour TUNIS AIR,
Et en plus, ils scannent le visa en connection avec la paf française, et si le feu 😛 vert ne s'allume pas, pas d'embarquement.
Vaut mieux prévenir que périr😉.
A bon entendeur...Cordialement
Fayd
Salut,
Un conseil, préparer le voucher pour le séjour au Portugal, ainsi que le billet de continuation, l'assurance, et le montant en Euros.
Cordialement
Fayd
Bonjour,
J'ai été un peu étonné par votre image de visa Schengen invalidé, comme ça, par une mention manuscrite, sans tampon officiel... Le truc est un peu délicat : les Italiens se permettent d'annuler un visa Schengen qu'ils n'ont pas délivré, et donc qui en fait ne les concerne pas. Ils ne sont personne pour l'invalider. On n'a pas les détails, mais les faits tels que vous les rapportez sentent le truc moyennement réglo...
Michel
J'ai été un peu étonné par votre image de visa Schengen invalidé, comme ça, par une mention manuscrite, sans tampon officiel... Le truc est un peu délicat : les Italiens se permettent d'annuler un visa Schengen qu'ils n'ont pas délivré, et donc qui en fait ne les concerne pas. Ils ne sont personne pour l'invalider. On n'a pas les détails, mais les faits tels que vous les rapportez sentent le truc moyennement réglo...
Michel
Bonjour Michel
Oui un état membre peut invalider un visa émis par un autre état membre c'est l'article 34 de mémoire et je vous donne un peu de lecture : https://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2009:243:0001:0058:EN:PDF
Et le doc qui va avec : https://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2009:243:0001:0058:EN:PDF
Oui un état membre peut invalider un visa émis par un autre état membre c'est l'article 34 de mémoire et je vous donne un peu de lecture : https://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2009:243:0001:0058:EN:PDF
Et le doc qui va avec : https://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2009:243:0001:0058:EN:PDF
Bonjour Michel
Oui un état membre peut invalider un visa émis par un autre état membre c'est l'article 34 de mémoire et je vous donne un peu de lecture :
eur-lex.europa.eu/...243:0001:0058:EN:PDF
Et le doc qui va avec :
eur-lex.europa.eu/...243:0001:0058:EN:PDF
Soit. Et bien c'est avec des choses de ce genre qu'on se détourne du projet européen.
Michel
Soit. Et bien c'est avec des choses de ce genre qu'on se détourne du projet européen.
Michel
Merci de ne pas faire peur aux gens inutilement en colportant des faits anciens de trois ans surtout si les passagers sont à l'origine de leurs propres déboires.
Dans le cas de ces passagers algériens refoulés par l'Italie avec le revocato, l'ambassadeur d'Italie a clarifié la situation :
L’ambassadeur d’Italie à Alger, tout en se déclarant "triste" de ce qui est arrivé aux voyageurs algériens avait souligné que ces derniers avaient déclaré aux douaniers qu’ils comptaient rejoindre la France et non pas passer des vacances en Italie comme l’attestaient les documents qu’ils avaient présenté au Consulat italien.
Afin de rétablir tes approximations et raccourcis rapides :
Il s'agissait d'un visa italien et non français comme on peut le voir facilement sur la photo que tu as posté, délivré à des algériens qui se rendaient en Italie sur Alitalia (et non Air Algérie) et dont le but réel était d'aller en France.
Ils auraient donc beaucoup menti et n'auraient pas respecté le règlement européen car le visa aurait du être demandé au consulat français.
L'immigration italienne n'a fait qu'appliquer la règle.
Dans le cas de ces passagers algériens refoulés par l'Italie avec le revocato, l'ambassadeur d'Italie a clarifié la situation :
L’ambassadeur d’Italie à Alger, tout en se déclarant "triste" de ce qui est arrivé aux voyageurs algériens avait souligné que ces derniers avaient déclaré aux douaniers qu’ils comptaient rejoindre la France et non pas passer des vacances en Italie comme l’attestaient les documents qu’ils avaient présenté au Consulat italien.
Afin de rétablir tes approximations et raccourcis rapides :
Il s'agissait d'un visa italien et non français comme on peut le voir facilement sur la photo que tu as posté, délivré à des algériens qui se rendaient en Italie sur Alitalia (et non Air Algérie) et dont le but réel était d'aller en France.
Ils auraient donc beaucoup menti et n'auraient pas respecté le règlement européen car le visa aurait du être demandé au consulat français.
L'immigration italienne n'a fait qu'appliquer la règle.
Il s'agissait d'un visa italien délivré à des algériens qui se rendaient en Italie sur Alitalia mais dont le but réel était d'aller en France.
Ils auraient donc beaucoup menti et n'auraient pas respecté le règlement européen car le visa aurait du être demandé au consulat français.
L'immigration italienne n'a fait qu'appliquer la règle.
Ah ce n'est pas ainsi que l'histoire était présentée plus haut.🙂 Ceci dit, que les Etats Schengen ne soient même pas fichus de délivrer des visas valables pour l'ensemble de l'espace, quel que soit le point d'entrée, en dit long sur l'état de décrépitude du projet.
Michel
Ah ce n'est pas ainsi que l'histoire était présentée plus haut.🙂 Ceci dit, que les Etats Schengen ne soient même pas fichus de délivrer des visas valables pour l'ensemble de l'espace, quel que soit le point d'entrée, en dit long sur l'état de décrépitude du projet.
Michel
Ceci dit, que les Etats Schengen ne soient même pas fichus de délivrer des visas valables pour l'ensemble de l'espace, quel que soit le point d'entrée, en dit long sur l'état de décrépitude du projet.
Salut, Avec un visa Schengen de circulation, valable de 1 à 5 ans, et 90 jours sur 180 jours, on ne demande aucun justif à l'entrée de n'importe quel pays de l'espace Schengen. Pour ce qui est de la question posée par l'initiatrice de la discussion, je lui ai conseillé d'avoir sur elle les justifs nécessaires, en rentrant au Portugal.
Salut, Avec un visa Schengen de circulation, valable de 1 à 5 ans, et 90 jours sur 180 jours, on ne demande aucun justif à l'entrée de n'importe quel pays de l'espace Schengen. Pour ce qui est de la question posée par l'initiatrice de la discussion, je lui ai conseillé d'avoir sur elle les justifs nécessaires, en rentrant au Portugal.
Cordialement
Fayd
Voilà.
Cela fait partie des mesures d'assouplissement prises par l'UE cet hiver.
https://www.tourmag.com/Europe-vers-de-nouvelles-dispositions-en-matiere-de-visas_a97497.html
C'est un peu n'importe quoi. Un visa Affaires pour un Chinois, et délivré il y a plus de 10 ans. 🤪
Salut,
Effectivement, il y a eu des éssais avant de prendre cette décision de facilitation.
Le visa de circulation étaient difficilement et uniquement accordé pour les voyages d'affaires, et par la suite, il est accordé également pour les voyages touristiques.
Voici un modèle, (valable 4 ans).


Cordialement
Fayd
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We’ll soon be moving to Madagascar long-term.
As a French national, I need to obtain a short-stay visa that can be converted to a long-stay one. To do this, I have to send the required documents to the Madagascar embassy in Paris.
No issues with that procedure so far.
If I get this visa, once I arrive in Madagascar, I’ll need to provide the same documents to the Ministry of the Interior in Anosy. I’m trying to find an email address or website for the Ministry to check which documents I need to submit (I think they ask for additional ones).
If you have any info on this, I’d appreciate your replies.
Best regards,
M. Buisson Eric
Hi there,
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I filled out the B2 form to apply for a visa, created an account on Atvis to pay the visa fees and schedule a meet-up, but every time I try to pay with my Boursobank Visa 1st card, they refuse the payment with a message telling me to check my details (address), even though everything is correct. Does anyone know why this is happening, or maybe they don’t accept Visa cards? Are you aware of this?
Thanks for your feedback!
Elisabeth
Hi,
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
Hi there,
We need to apply for a B2 visa because we visited Iran in 2018. It currently costs $185, but they’re planning an additional $250 fee per person for the same visa—it’s been approved but not yet implemented. Does anyone know when this fee will take effect?
Thanks in advance!
Elisabeth
Hi there,
In November, we're heading off on a 4-month trip. We'll be landing in China and plan to leave the country via a land border into Vietnam.
I’ve read that China may ask for proof of exit within 30 days (flight ticket or other reservation). Since we’d be leaving by land, I’m wondering how this works in practice.
Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Hi there,
Just a question that’s probably been asked before (though usually the other way around for my situation :))
My wife and I are heading to the US.
On her ticket, it only has her maiden name (e.g., Martine DUPOND).
On her passport, it’s written as Martine DUPOND épouse AVRY.
No issues for travel, I hope I did the right thing with the ticket?
Then for the ESTA, is just Martine DUPOND enough, or do I need to include the "épouse AVRY" part like on the passport?
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’m spending a few days in San Pedro de Atacama (Chile) and would like to cross the Argentine border to make a loop toward Salta and then return to Chile to drop off the rental car.
I’ve heard that crossing the border can be tricky!
Is it possible with a rental company’s authorization? Which company, and at what cost?
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Best regards,
Arnale
Hi everyone,
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
Hi there,
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Hi
Has anyone been to Rwanda recently and gotten a 3-month visa on arrival easily?
Thanks
Hi there,
My departure is slowly approaching, and now that I’ve got my Russian visa sorted, I’m fine-tuning the rest of my trip to Tajikistan. Since the Tajik visa is no longer required for stays under 30 days (for French nationals), I’ll need to visit the Ministry of Interior (OVIR) to register within 10 days of entering the country. No big deal, though, since I had to go there anyway to apply for my GBAO permit. 😉 However, I’ve *seen* several reports from travelers (mostly motorized) mentioning that you need an entry permit for Kyrgyzstan, which has to be arranged in advance at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) in Dushanbe. Otherwise, you’re *stuck* at the Kyzyl-Art border (with no Wi-Fi, of course, to try and sort it out). The most recent report was from a year ago, so I’d love to know if this is still the case and if it’s indeed at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) where you need to go for this pre-authorization.
Does anyone have any recent info on this?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone.
I’m leaving for almost 3 months in the Philippines (11 weeks total) starting in early May.
I already have my round-trip ticket.
The problem is, I don’t have time to get a 2-month visa because the process takes nearly a month.
From what I’ve read here and there, I need a return ticket valid for less than a month when I arrive in the Philippines to prove my good faith.
After that, I can apply for a 30-day extension at the immigration office.
I’m planning to either buy a fully refundable ticket to the nearest country or a fake ticket.
For 3 months, I’ll need to extend my visa two more times before my return date to France.
My question is this:
Will immigration ask me each time I extend my visa by one month to show proof of an exit ticket matching the new visa extension date?
Is it possible to extend directly by 2 months before the initial 30 days expire?
Thanks in advance for your experiences and tips! 😊
Hello to all the Thailand regulars.
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
My partner (Mexican) entered France on January 21st as a tourist. She was therefore entitled to stay for 90 days in the Schengen Area. She’ll be leaving for Mexico on April 16th, so she’ll have “used up” 86 days.
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie







