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Travel Journal: Northern Laos, Chiang Mai, Bangkok
Here’s our third travel journal with photos, following Vietnam in 2012 and Southern Thailand + Angkor in 2013. Once again, we’d like to thank everyone who brightens up this site with their experiences and tips. Every year, some parts of our itinerary are made easier or richer thanks to your contributions. We hope our own story will do the same for other travelers.

**10 JULY 2014**

We booked our flight tickets back in September to get a better deal than last year. We were happy with the 1291 € price for two people from Paris—until mid-January, when several airlines started offering promotions we hadn’t expected for our travel dates. Next year, we’ll take the gamble and wait longer, hoping to fly with Qatar Airways, for example. Fate had us flying with Indian Airlines. The Paris-to-Delhi leg was on a brand-new Boeing Dreamliner—obviously fresh off the assembly line. After a quick four-hour layover to stretch our legs, we boarded an Airbus A321 that looked prehistoric for the Delhi-to-Bangkok flight. Honestly, if the outside of the plane had matched the inside, we’d never have made it. Broken screens, shattered armrests—you name it. As for the meal trays, we would’ve devoured them only after a week stranded on a desert island. The cabin crew didn’t win us over either. And we really didn’t appreciate the behavior, attitudes, or stares from most of the people we encountered during our layovers in Delhi. This year’s experience has definitely put us off flying with this airline again—or even setting foot in India ever again. That’s just our personal take, but it’s clear.

Stepping onto Thai soil was an immense relief. After exchanging just a few euros, we took a taxi from the designated spot and had a completely different experience from last year: the driver was normal and efficient. So efficient, in fact, that we arrived at our destination much earlier than expected. A well-deserved tip, and it seemed to make his day.

We dropped our bags at reception and rushed to Harmonique restaurant, just 300 meters away, just in time for the last dinner service. We’d talked about this place at length last year. We’d been looking forward to it for a year, but we only managed to nibble on some spring rolls because what we really wanted was a good night’s sleep. While quite a few customers were still around, four staff members walked through the dining area with two large trash bins from the day’s service. They were clearly pleased with themselves and having a good laugh. It made us chuckle too—seeing something like that done so naturally, when back home, some people would’ve been outraged to witness it in a similar establishment!

A quick word about the Swan Hotel: we’re grateful to those who recommended it on this site and on their blogs. It’s quietly located in the Silom district, just steps from the river. We have fond memories of the giant, ultra-comfortable bed and the well-maintained pool. It was very peaceful, though we were there during a quieter season. At 30 € with breakfast when we booked (and around 20 € without breakfast now), we can’t imagine finding a better-suited hotel in Bangkok.

**11 JULY**

We couldn’t find an open bank and had to withdraw cash from an ATM. Now we know: July 11 is a public holiday in Thailand. It suddenly occurred to us that next year, we’ll keep some baht from our return trip to save time at the airport and avoid little hiccups like this.

We decided not to head straight to Laos and instead spent the day visiting Muang Boran, also known as Ancient City, about 30 km southeast of Bangkok.

There are plenty of ways to get there. We ruled out taxis—too expensive. Besides, we enjoy using local transport; it’s more fun. We took a taxi to Democracy Monument, then found the bus stop about 100 meters from the roundabout, on one of the avenues leading to it. Someone always points you in the right direction. We hopped on bus 511 for a long ride, with two major slowdowns at red lights. The same happened on the way back, as our route crossed busier roads. We told the driver our destination, and he let us know when to get off. No problem—someone already flagged us down 20 meters later to put us in a *songthaew* (a shared taxi-van) that took us straight to the site. The bus and *songthaew* fares were minimal. Already, the people around us were smiling, and we were smiling back.

The entrance fee has gone up: 700 baht. That includes bike rental, a tour minibus, and a boat ride on the river. We still hadn’t fully recovered from the flight, and with the heavy, humid heat, we opted for the electric cart instead—no regrets. Still, 150 baht per hour.

We had an amazing day, beyond our expectations. The park features full-scale or scaled-down replicas of Thailand’s main landmarks, along with countless statues and landscaped gardens. There are also reconstructions of a typical Thai village, a northern Thai village, a farm with animals, and a floating village.

Almost everything we saw was well-made and aesthetically pleasing. The whole place is absolutely worth the trip. We spent six solid hours there without dawdling.

Here’s a very incomplete sample of what we admired:

























Visitors will find restrooms, restaurants, and a few shops scattered throughout the site. On the way back, just cross the road using the pedestrian bridge about 250 meters to the left of the exit. Flag down a *songthaew* as it passes.

The whole day flew by between the visit and the commute. We still had time to return to Harmonique to try their famous crab curry. Once you’ve finished it, you think—life isn’t so bad after all.
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Bangkok - Chiang Mai - Koh Samui in summer
Hi everyone, I’ve spent two solid months reading the Lonely Planet and pretty much every post about Thailand here, plus French and English blogs. Now I’d love to get your expert opinions on our itinerary. We’re heading off in August 2025 with our 7-year-old daughter. We only have a maximum of three weeks off, and I’m keeping an eye on flight prices before booking (1400 € per person really stings 😕). So here’s what I’ve planned—let me know if you spot any major issues or if I’ve been way too "optimistic."

D1 - Arrival in Bangkok / rest, quick visit, overnight stay D2 - More temple visits, etc. D3 - Morning flight to Chiang Mai D4 - More Chiang Mai sightseeing D5 - Day trip to Chiang Rai (guided tour to book: blue and white temple), return to Chiang Mai late in the evening D6 - More Chiang Mai visits / Elephant Nature Park in the afternoon D7 - Morning flight to Koh Samui, sightseeing D8 to D10 - More Koh Samui visits D11 to D13 - Ferry to Koh Phangan D14 to D15 - Ferry to Koh Tao D16 - Return to Koh Samui, then flight to Bangkok D17 - Day trip to Ayutthaya, return to Bangkok in the evening D18 - Flight back to France :(

I know a lot of you recommend heading straight to Chiang Mai to recover from the international flight, but my partner and I NEVER sleep on planes (personally, I’ve been flying to Taiwan since I was little and have never slept more than an hour on a 14-hour flight...), so it’s essential for us to rest upon arrival . That’s also why I opted for domestic flights instead of the sleeper train—I know we’d lose over 10 hours and wouldn’t be able to rest properly in those conditions. And I’m sure you’ll also say BKK > North > South is too much for three weeks, but I really want to see as much as possible. Given how much the flights will cost, I’m not sure when we’ll be able to come back 🏴‍☠️.

So, questions: 1. Since we’ll only be in Bangkok for a maximum of two nights and need to easily reach the airport with luggage (and a child), which neighborhood should we prioritize? We’d love to experience the evening vibe of Asian night markets, ideally within walking distance of the hotel or just a few metro stops away. I’ve looked at Chinatown, but the BTS seems far... Should we go for somewhere near BTS Saphan Taksin or BTS Krungthonburi? But is the area lively in the evening with food courts, etc.? We’d also like to treat ourselves to a hotel with a pool.

2. Have we planned too many days in the south? Should I skip Koh Tao and just do Koh Samui + Koh Phangan? My partner and daughter aren’t strong swimmers, so we’re looking for beautiful beaches without too much current. Crowded beaches don’t bother us—we just want stunning turquoise waters without killer waves . Going all the way to Koh Tao and then back to Koh Samui to catch the flight to Bangkok seems too stressful. Is it still possible these days (I haven’t seen any recent posts on this) to head to Koh Samui in August and decide on the spot how many nights to spend in Koh Phangan or Koh Tao based on how we feel, booking hotels as we go? Or is that too risky?

If you have any better suggestions for fitting all this in while reducing internal flights, I’m all ears for your great tips
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Best destination for a first one-month trip with 2- and 5-year-old kids in 2027?
Hello,

After scouring the forum without managing to decide, I thought I’d ask for your advice! Before becoming a mom, we traveled for a year from Iran to Indonesia, and now my partner and I are finally ready to take our first big one-month trip with our kids. We’d like 2 or 3 places to visit, settle in, and explore the surrounding area. We’re looking for a destination that’s fairly easy (since our kids aren’t always easy themselves), but I’m hesitant about Thailand (which I didn’t enjoy because it felt too touristy at the time). I was thinking about Vietnam, which I don’t know at all. Maybe Laos, but spending a few days near a nice beach would be relaxing with two little ones full of energy… We don’t want to rush through crowded, commercial sites—we want to take our time and discover beautiful places.

Thanks for your tips! !
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Any quiet spots in Thailand in February?
Hi there, I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...

Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
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Is there any activity in Amphawa during the week?
Hello everyone!

First stop on our discovery of the peninsula: Amphawa. It’s our first night in Thailand (we arrived at Suvarnabhumi at 8:50 AM). Our initial plan was to explore the area before heading further south. The Mae Klong Railway Market is tempting... but what else is there to do???? We’ll be there on a Wednesday, and from what I’ve read on the forum, some say there’s absolutely nothing to do during the week—no floating market, barely any shops open, no restaurants, etc. Others, though, say the place is actually more charming without the weekend crowds.

Could you share your thoughts? Missing the floating market is one thing, but if it’s really a ghost town on Wednesdays, I might just drop our bags somewhere else. Amphawa seemed like a good first stop, just 1.5 hours from the airport, but I’d still like to settle somewhere a bit lively for our first evening. We’ll be there at the end of October. Thanks!
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From Nan to Chiang Rai: itinerary ideas?
Hi, just a quick note mainly for Samsong, even if he’s still giving me the silent treatment. I’ve been in Nan since yesterday and... I love it! So thanks, Thierry. It’s exactly the kind of place I’d been dreaming of... Even if communication is a bit tough, it’s not impossible. They don’t even know the most basic English words! Everyone laughs and they’re the first to pull out their phones to... translate. They’re even quicker on the uptake than I am. And then there’s the time I say Nan (pronounced "Nane"). They don’t understand me. After a while (sometimes a long one), they reply: "Ah, Nan?" (pronounced "Nane") 😵🤳😃

The town is exactly how you described it back in 2022. Though I’m surprised to find so many trendy, slightly intellectual "Cafés." Apparently, coffee—excellent everywhere—is king in Nan. It feels like a university town. And it seems pretty lively at night! But for now, I’m going to bed early. I caught a nasty cold, which didn’t stop me from walking 12 km this morning. But I came back to my accommodation by 3 PM (gorgeous and luxurious with top-notch service for 800 baht—even a cute local welcome gift this morning, plus other unexpected touches like a bottle of honey and chrysanthemum flowers for tea. The lady must’ve guessed I was coming down with something yesterday). I thought about going out for dinner but didn’t have the energy. I think I’ve got at least 39°C fever...

Anyway, I’m sending you this message, Thierry, because you mentioned a daily bus to Chiang Rai, so I didn’t look into it. But now it’s a real problem—no buses to Chiang Rai, only taxis. At least 2,500 baht for the cheapest one! I’ll check the bus station directly tomorrow. Online, it’s all taxis, no buses. I’d like to explore the countryside/mountains if I can find an affordable driver. Any ideas for destinations or itineraries? Thanks.
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Vaccines and treatments for Thailand
Hi there,

I’ve already visited quite a few countries across several continents, but I’m pretty new to Asia.

I’m planning a trip to Thailand in October or November, and I wanted to check about health precautions: malaria treatment, vaccinations (hepatitis A or others...). I’ll mostly be in the northern region, around Chiang Mai, where I’ll spend a lot of time in nature and the mountains. Then I’ll head south to Phuket or Krabi and visit Khao Sok National Park. I’ll finish up in Bangkok, with a likely detour to Kanchanaburi.

From what I understand, for a stay of less than 60 days, I don’t need a visa (I’m a French national)? I just need to fill out the TDAC form 3 to 5 days before arrival?

Thanks for your advice! Fred
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Traveling without reservations with a 10-year-old in Thailand
Hi there, it’s been a good 15 years since I last set foot in Thailand.

Back then, I spent 6 weeks there with my partner, traveling backpacker-style without ever booking anything in advance, and we always managed to find a guesthouse. Now we think our son is old enough to travel the same way.

Do you still find it just as easy to snag a guesthouse room everywhere?

What’s the average price range these days in the north and the south?

For our route, we’re thinking roughly BKK / Koh Tao / Koh Samui / Krabi, then the Chiang Mai area. Thanks in advance for your tips!
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Thailand trip: What to do if visa-free stay drops from 60 to 30 days?
Hey everyone, hope you're doing well! :) I’m planning to go back to Thailand at the start of next year—once just wasn’t enough 😅 I’ve seen that nothing’s official yet, but they’re considering reducing the visa-free stay from 60 to 30 days. If I book for 58 days like last time and they change the rules last minute, what happens? It takes forever to get a visa—I saw you have to prove you have enough funds to cover your stay. How much money do you need in your account? Thanks!
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Thailand with family: a few practical questions
Hi there, As mentioned earlier, we're heading off for a month to explore some parts of Thailand in July/August, and I’ve got a few practical questions I’m hoping you can help with based on your experiences. Thanks in advance!

- Can you choose the denominations at exchange bureaus/ATMs? How do you avoid ending up with only 1000-baht notes when exchanging large sums? - If not, is there an easy way to get change? Any alternatives to buying stuff at 7-Eleven? - Can you buy train tickets from Thonburi to Kanchanaburi in advance? Is there usually space available, considering some people do the Death Railway day trip from Bangkok to Sai Yok Noi? - Is there room for luggage on the trains to Kanchanaburi? We’ll be traveling as a group of four with two large checked-baggage-sized suitcases (25 kg each). - Kanchanaburi: Most day tours allow around 3 hours at Erawan Falls. Is that enough, or is it worth spending the whole day there, especially at the start of the rainy season when it’s a bit greener? - In Sam Roi Yot, are there taxis/Grab/Bolt available for exploring the surrounding areas? I’d appreciate any numbers or addresses. - Does True (7-Eleven) have good coverage across Thailand, from Sam Roi Yot to Chiang Rai, or should we go with AIS? - In Bangkok, if you need to switch BTS lines, do you need a new ticket, or can you change lines as long as you don’t exit the station?

Happy to provide any additional details if needed.
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Private transfer company between central and northern Thailand
Hi there,

Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...

For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...

There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)

Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
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Feedback on family trip to Thailand
Hi everyone... I apologize in advance if some of my questions have already been answered on this forum—I didn’t have time to read through everything.

I’m planning a family trip to Thailand in July for 6 people: - 4 adults, 1 child aged 14, and 1 aged 9. We’ve started looking into travel agencies that specialize in the country and offer custom trips.

Our initial idea was a budget of 2500 € per person for a stay of around 14 days, including:

- 3/4 days in Bangkok (visiting temples, floating markets, Chinatown, river cruise, etc.) - Kanchanaburi - Ayutthaya - 3/4 days in Chiang Mai (elephant sanctuary, rice field visits, temples, etc.) - Then a domestic flight to finish the trip in Krabi for 3/4 days (free time + excursions to Koh Phi Phi and/or Phang Nga, for example).

I’d also have liked to visit Chiang Rai, Lopburi, and Sukhothai, but we’ll have to make some choices.

So, my question is: - Is it better to go through well-known agencies to plan our trip, or is it possible to use local agencies for visits with French-speaking guides (if needed) and book flights and hotels on our own?

Does a budget of 2500 € per person seem reasonable for this kind of classic itinerary?

I’ve received (or will receive) quotes from agencies like Evaneos, Tourlane, Havas, Sawa Discovery, Nomade Aventures, etc. They all seem very professional but offer rather high-end services.

If any of you have recommendations for local agencies, I’d love to hear about your experiences. Also, is it possible to organize this kind of trip to Thailand on your own?

I know I’m not being very original, but I really want to make this a fantastic vacation with the best tips possible to avoid cutting the trip short to fit my budget.

Wishing you all a great day, and thanks in advance for your replies! Best regards, Julien
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Thailand via Kuala Lumpur
Here’s my account of our trip to Thailand with my partner from November 22 to December 5, 2025. First off, I’d like to wish all Voyageforum.com users a very happy 2026, full of happiness and amazing discoveries on your travels! It’s thanks to the tips I gathered on this site that I planned the trip. We traveled with Malaysia Airlines (the flight price was great, but no movies in French, not even subtitled) because we wanted to explore Kuala Lumpur and visit southern Thailand. Our departure from Roissy was delayed because the plane had to go through the robotic de-icing trucks—pretty impressive! After a 12-hour flight, we arrived at the beautiful Kuala Lumpur airport around 7 AM.



Don’t forget to fill out the immigration form requested by Malaysia 3 days before arrival. We left without any issues and took the Klia Ekspress train to KL Sentral station (30 minutes, 10 €). We’d booked accommodation in a tower near the station and had to communicate with the landlord to get the keys. But while we thought there’d be Wi-Fi at the station, there wasn’t—we asked the tourism office, and they said there wasn’t any. We didn’t want to buy a local SIM card since we were leaving the next day. Eventually, we went to a Starbucks to get online, but just as we decided to head to our place, a torrential downpour hit, and we couldn’t find a sidewalk to reach our destination. We went back to the station, took the elevated metro, and finally made it to our landlord and the room on the 45th floor.

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Travel companions for first trip to Thailand in autumn 2026
Hi, I’m Ruben, I’m 22, live in the south of France, and I’m finishing my studies. I’d like to plan a trip for September-October or October-November. Since this would be my first long-haul experience, I’m a bit hesitant to go alone. So if anyone’s interested in traveling with me—or even sharing several parts of the trip together—I’m open to it. I don’t have any specific expectations. Age and gender don’t matter. I’m pretty mature, open-minded, and can hold a conversation or build a temporary friendship with just about anyone.

For this trip, my main interests will be: cultural visits, sports (personal hobby), nightlife, meeting locals, and fun activities.

DM me if you’d like more details. Thanks.
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Your recommendations for a 2-week trip to Thailand
Hi there,

We have the opportunity to get away for a little two-week trip at the very beginning of January, just the two of us, without our kids. Because of the kids, we haven’t traveled much in Asia, so we’d love to take advantage of their absence to explore Thailand. Even though I’m used to planning our trips, I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed this time.

We’d like to visit Bangkok and head south by renting a car (we have an international driver’s license, and my husband has driven on the left before). I’ve managed to sketch out a rough itinerary that might work for us, and I’d love to hear your thoughts.

To set the scene: we haven’t booked anything yet, we don’t like spending hours on the beach (though a little time at the end of the day is fine), we love walking and sightseeing, and what we enjoy most is being independent (so if we can avoid group tours, that’s ideal).

After that intro, here’s the rough outline of our itinerary: Day 0: Paris-Bangkok flight Days 1, 2, and 3: Bangkok (Wat Pho, Grand Palace, Wat Arun, markets, boat ride through the khlongs, Jim Thompson House) Day 4: Ayutthaya Day 5: Pick up a rental car and head to Sam Roi Yot Day 6: Sam Roi Yot and Prachuap Khiri Khan Day 7: Drive south – overnight near Surat Thani Day 8: Uthayan Tham Khao Na Nai, then drive to Ao Nang (staying near Tubkaek) Days 9 and 10: Boat trips (Railay, Ko Hong, etc.) Day 11: Drive to Phang Nga with a few stops along the way Day 12: Boat tour (mangroves and Ko Tapu) Day 13: Drive to Phuket Airport and return flight

A few questions and doubts: - I’d considered Cheow Lan Lake but read some not-so-great reviews (crowds, just 3 viewpoints, and the rest was meh). What do you think? - Can we start from Ao Thalane Pier for trips to Ko Hong and Ko Tapu? - I’m not thrilled about driving through Bangkok, but I’m not sure where to rent a car west of the city (since we won’t return it to the same place, I assume it’s best to target rental companies at airports).

Thanks in advance for any tips or feedback you can share to help me (or not 😛) refine this plan before I start booking!
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Which island in Thailand for snorkeling and walks over 3 days?
Hi everyone, we’ll be in Thailand from August 2nd to 21st, arriving in Bangkok on the 2nd for a visit. From the 5th to the 8th: Angkor temples. Then, starting on the 9th, we’re planning to head to Chiang Mai, and by the 14th or 15th, we’d like to be on an island until the 19th, when we return to Bangkok. Five days in Chiang Mai seems a bit long to us. What do you recommend between the 9th and 15th, and which island? We’re not big fans of sunbathing—we’d love to snorkel and explore the island. Ideally, I’d have liked to find a house to rent, but every time, I end up with places far from the beach, whereas we’d really like to be able to walk to the beach for strolls. By the way, are there a lot of shells? Can we collect them? It seems that in August, swimming can sometimes be tricky due to tides—is that true? Thanks to all the contributors! 😊
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How to handle large expenses in Thailand?
Hi everyone, thanks so much for all your great tips! Now for expenses: should we pay "big expenses" by card, the rest in cash, or exchange a large sum at the airport (with the risks that involves)? We’re staying for a month, mostly in the countryside rather than the city. Thanks a bunch!
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Your itinerary ideas for 12 nights in Thailand
Hi everyone, I know my post might sound a bit repetitive with the questions asked regularly on this forum, but I’m feeling a little lost and thought I’d still ask for your help. Here’s my situation: I’m traveling to Thailand with my wife and 12-year-old son during the February 2025 school holidays. We’ll be spending 12 nights in the country. So far, I only have our flight tickets to and from Phuket. Now, I need to plan an itinerary that lets us discover beautiful places and the culture of this country. I’d like to stay by the sea, with stunning fine-sand beaches and breathtaking landscapes in areas that aren’t too urban, but also be able to see some beautiful monuments, typical villages, and wildlife not too far away. That said, I don’t want to be lost deep in the jungle either—I’d like a bit of atmosphere in the evenings (no nightclubs, but rather nice bars with music). I’ve done some research and here’s a first draft of what I might do:

Spend my first 3 nights in the suburbs of Phuket to explore the city and the province more broadly, Then head to Ko Yao Noi for 2 nights to discover the charms of Phang Nga Bay, Next, fly from Krabi to spend 4 nights on Koh Samui (maybe with a little excursion to Ko Pha Ngan?), Then fly back to Krabi to reach Koh Phi Phi for 2 nights, Finally, return to the Phuket area for my last night in Thailand to be close for my flight the next day.

The idea is to explore several places without having to pack and unpack every day, and to avoid spending hours on transport every day. What do you think? Do the places seem relevant? If so, does the number of nights seem appropriate? Thanks in advance for your help, Best regards, Lionel
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Domestic transfers by taxi/Grab in Thailand
Hello,

So glad the site is back up and running. It's such a useful treasure trove of information!

We're in the midst of planning our 4-week family trip to Thailand in July 2025. I've managed to sort out and book hotels and other activities across various sites, but I'm stuck on some transfers between different locations. Could you confirm or suggest better solutions, keeping in mind we're traveling with two kids aged 12 and 15 and I'd like to minimize risks for transfers.

I’d especially like to know if taxis/Grab are readily available for transfers 2, 3, and 6 below.

Transfers:

1. Bangkok - Kanchanaburi: planned by train 2. Kanchanaburi - Kaeng Krachan National Park: planned by taxi/Grab 3. Kaeng Krachan National Park - Hua Hin or San Roi Yot: planned by taxi/Grab 4. San Roi Yot to Bangkok Airport: planned by taxi, as trains wouldn’t get us there in time for our flight or would require an extra night in Bangkok 5. Bangkok - Chiang Rai: domestic flight 6. Chiang Rai - Chiang Mai: planned by public bus, taxi/Grab possible 7. Chiang Mai - Bangkok: domestic flight

Thanks for your feedback.
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Northern Thailand with a baby


Hi everyone,

In these dark times, and after two months of lockdown, I thought now would be a good moment to write up the travel journal of our last trip to Thailand, to (maybe) help some of you escape a little. The idea is also, and above all, to give back to this forum, and I hope my tips or ideas will help future travelers. Don’t hesitate to contact me via private message or in the comments if you have any questions.

Before I start this story, I must warmly thank the people who patiently informed, advised, and guided us. Jojoone, Jodelavega, Jungletrool, DearPatsy, Tarajellow, and the others—thank you so much. This trip wouldn’t have been as wonderful without your help.

We’re a couple in our thirties who love traveling (we did a round-the-world trip several years ago now), and we’re big fans of Thailand, where we’ve been multiple times. We’re used to backpacking and even have a bit of wanderlust! But this year, everything was different since we were traveling for the first time with our baby, who was just under 2 years old (22 months). This raised HUGE questions for us, as we usually travel pretty casually and intuitively. While I found some answers on this forum, there was still a lot of information I couldn’t find, so I apologize in advance to those who travel without young kids—I plan to address that with a dedicated section. Generally, I think preparation is the key to a successful trip with a little one. For us, lots of questions beforehand meant no stress during the trip—everything was simple, and there were no bad surprises.

For those in a hurry, here’s a summary: 3-week stay (09/30/19 to 10/18/2019) Flight tickets (2 adults, 1 baby without a seat): 1052 € Itinerary: Bangkok 5 days, Chiang Mai 5 days, Lampang 3 days, Kanchanaburi 3 days, Bangkok 2 days.

General info about traveling with babies:

Here are the topics that caused us the most concern, our choices, and our observations after the trip.

1- Choosing the itinerary / road safety

This was THE biggest concern for us. Living in France with a top-rated rear-facing car seat, we were terrified at the idea of putting our baby in a car, bus, or any vehicle without protection (not to mention Thailand’s terrible reputation for road safety). We ended up making a radical decision that removed all our stress and let us enjoy a fantastic trip: no road travel (though you’ll see later that we had to bend this rule once, and everything went fine). We decided to follow the railway route heading north (for safety reasons, we didn’t consider the south and its islands with a baby) and chose our stops based on that. The train is a super comfortable way to travel with a young child. Sure, it’s slow—we were warned—but the best advice I can give is to take your time with a little one. Thailand is hot, noisy, and crowded—everything is tiring. Taking it slow is the best way to enjoy your trip. And I think (this is just my opinion) trying to keep an adult’s pace would only lead to frustration and exhaustion for everyone. The only car trips we took were short transfers in the city, and for those, we brought a sling (like a pre-tied baby carrier) so the baby was strapped to one of us, and we were both buckled up with the seatbelt passing between the baby and the parent carrying them. In case of a crash, there was no risk of crushing the baby (though obviously, it wasn’t completely safe, but we figured at city speeds, it was manageable).

2- Gear / what to pack?

In everyday life, we already keep things simple, so for travel, it was obvious we wouldn’t overpack. Crib, stroller, car seat, etc.—we decided to bring almost nothing and didn’t regret it. In my opinion, a stroller isn’t useful in Thailand. The sidewalks are unusable, packed with people and stalls. In busy places like night markets, you’ll prefer having your child close to you, at adult height, rather than in the crowd. Of course, it depends on where you go, but generally, a stroller will be more of a hassle than a help. We opted for a small, non-bulky hiking backpack and a sling (which fit in the backpack’s pocket) made of thin fabric for car trips. In hindsight, I think this was the perfect choice.

For cribs, high chairs, etc., there’s no need to bring your own—every place finds solutions for babies, and you can even contact them beforehand to put your mind at ease. During our stay, we were offered a baby crib, a futon on the floor, a single bed (not suitable for a baby, though), and always a solution for seating at meals. Only one hotel in Chiang Mai refused to help and asked for an outrageous extra fee, but I think that’s unusual, and we generally have mixed memories of that place. We brought a small fabric seat that attaches to any chair—it takes up the space of a folded raincoat and was very useful (though you can manage just fine by having the baby eat on your lap).

For baby food, diapers, etc., we didn’t bring anything. Just enough to last two days while we got settled, and that was plenty—no need to overpack. You can easily find diapers at Tesco, Lotus, or even 7/11. For food, we’d gotten our daughter used to eating pieces a few months before the trip, and we ordered broths to “dilute” the dishes. She loved it, tried everything with pleasure, and never had any issues. That said, I don’t know about milk—my daughter doesn’t drink it.

Here’s our “packing list” for 3 weeks with a 22-month-old:



My partner: 1 travel backpack and a small empty (cabin-sized) rolling suitcase for shopping on the way back. For me: baby in a hiking backpack (with a sling and the small folded seat in the backpack’s pocket). It was simple for getting around, and I think if we’d packed more, we would’ve struggled without gaining any extra comfort.

3- Mosquitoes / Malaria / Dengue / Vaccines

As if on purpose, just months before our trip, a flood of articles on the forum and online warned us that Thailand was in the middle of a dengue epidemic, and locals advised us to be careful. Not exactly reassuring when traveling with a baby…🤪 After much hesitation, we decided to bring a small mosquito net (recommended by a mom on the forum—shoutout to Popinette) that opens like a pop-up tent (and folds just as easily). For how little space it took up, we didn’t regret it. It was attached to the back of the travel backpack and let us sleep soundly :p If it helps anyone, here’s the one we had: Deryan Peuter model.



We also brought a mosquito net for ourselves but didn’t end up using it—with precautions, we didn’t have any mosquitoes at night.

For protection, we chose Insect Ecran (tropical version, the red one) because it doesn’t contain DEET but uses Icaridin, which is less toxic for little ones. We also pre-treated our clothes with Insect Ecran textile spray. We also decided to dress our daughter in light, long-sleeved outfits (covering arms and legs), and she wasn’t any hotter but was protected. It was a great choice, and we ended up dressing like her. Contrary to what I’d read, I didn’t find the smell strong—I actually thought it was quite discreet. My daughter and my partner didn’t get a single bite. As for me, I still got bites on exposed areas (I’m *very* prone to mosquito bites), so I switched to a local product—less well-formulated but apparently more effective for me.

We had our daughter vaccinated against Hepatitis A. We got conflicting advice on this: the pediatrician said it was unnecessary if she didn’t eat from street stalls (where dishes are washed in questionable water), but my GP said the opposite. We decided to book an appointment at a travel vaccination center, and the doctor was clear—she needed the vaccine.

4- Book in advance?

Finally, a question that had never crossed our minds before: should we book in advance? Again, this is just my opinion, but I think yes. It makes things much easier. Since we wanted to minimize road travel, it was much simpler to find well-located accommodations that let us do everything on foot (and with a baby, reducing travel and lightening the schedule is really helpful). Booking ahead meant no bad surprises, no fully booked places, and no hassle walking around with luggage and a baby. We booked everything in advance via Booking and Agoda, and by comparing with on-site prices, we didn’t pay more (we were traveling in the low season).

Here’s our feedback and observations. If they can help other parents prepare for their trip, I’d be thrilled.

With all that said, time for vacation!
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Phra Kreuang: Thai protective amulets
S🙂wasdee!

Kicking off the thread with an informative article about Phra Kreuang, protective amulets (according to local belief) that Thai people of all kinds wear around their necks:

https://www.objetsdevasion.com/guides/objet-bouddhiste/amulette-bouddha/les-amulettes-bouddhiques-thailandaises.html

You can find them all over the Kingdom: in temples, at markets, in specialty shops, and even in mail-order flyers at Seven/Eleven.

Also, heads up for those in Paris—from October 11th to 20th, there’s a collective exhibition featuring Thai artists: https://phenixwebtv.com/2019/07/23/facets-of-thailand-une-exposition-collective-de-cinq-artistes-de-la-scene-contemporaine-thailandaise/?fbclid=IwAR28PCY1t48M2DiwVlnc5uZvT20FnsxNLMppOb8d1pSfOjiw_sW_htV2CnI

@ ++, for the *sanouk* debrief from our last trip to the Land of the Free, as it’s so beautifully nicknamed.

Sânouk3😎
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Thailand Naturally


Time flies: here we are already presenting our tenth travel journal to VoyageForum’s readers!

We discovered Thailand about a dozen years ago, and it quickly became addictive for us. It’s only fair to say that this country stands out from many—if not most—thanks to an extraordinary combination of qualities: a generally smiling, laid-back, and friendly people; a territory dotted with natural beauties of exotic exuberance; a substantial selection of dishes, each more delicious than the last; and an obvious ease in making yourself understood and finding help to organize your activities.

Over the years, it’s been tough to keep things fresh, to continue sparking readers’ interest—and who knows, maybe even enthusiasm. We’re going to try to rise to that challenge.

After revisiting or introducing you to over 120 temples in Thailand, this year Joel and Françoise want to reveal a "Thailand Naturally."

Both in well-known areas and others that are more off the beaten path.

By "natural," we first mean nature itself, with its stunning sites and landscapes. But it’s also about places where Thais love to stroll with family and friends. Sometimes it’s just faces, glances, moments of life, or ceremonies captured on the spot. For the ladies, there’ll certainly be flowers to admire along the way. Uh... for the gentlemen too, who appreciate them (the flowers)... oh, and also for the gentlemen who appreciate gentlemen who appreciate flowers. And even for the ladies who don’t appreciate gentlemen. Alright, let’s go wild—on top of all that, we’ll still include a few places of worship. No matter how hard we try to resist, there’s always someone or something pulling us toward temples. The ever-vibrant popular devotion encourages us, and we never regret it.

To do this, we’ll lead you through six provinces or regions that will reveal themselves as the story unfolds, letting you enjoy the thrill of discovery. Even if we’ve mentioned some of them in previous years, this time it’ll all be new. For a more complete picture of any province we’ve already covered, readers can check out our past travel journals—just click on our username Jojoone1 to see what we’ve published.

One last note before we begin: we’re sticking to our tastes, our preferences, and what brings us joy. We just really wanted to show you multiple facets of the country’s interior—we’ll see if we pull it off...
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Buddhist Kumlai Reed Bracelet in Thailand
Hello, While traveling in Thailand, I’m looking for a Buddhist kumlai reed bracelet. Does anyone know where I can find one? In Bangkok, I visited a few temples but didn’t see any in the nearby shops. If you have any ideas, I’d love to hear them! Have a great day! :-)
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Thailand: The Preferred Destination for "Working-Class" Travelers
For a few years now, it’s become obvious that the typical tourist in Thailand is increasingly "mimile"—I see it every day. The issue is that Thais know how to adapt and are offering more and more things that appeal to this kind of crowd. That’s why we’re seeing more and more pizzerias and burger joints... Even hotels are proudly displaying up to 5 stars for places that barely deserve 3 by European standards, and this "working-class" crowd is over the moon, totally buying into it! In short, travelers looking to discover other civilizations and cultures might end up pretty disappointed.
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AirAsia baggage weight: planned scam?
On my flight from Chiang Rai (CEI) to Krabi (KBV) via Bangkok (DMK), I took two connecting flights: the first with Nok Air and the second with AirAsia, with a layover of about 1 hour and 10 minutes. Just enough time to grab my backpack and check in—basically a quick sprint through the airport... Everything went smoothly, but at DMK, the AirAsia flight was 30 minutes late... Once comfortably seated in the departure lounge, I checked my passport and boarding passes and realized Nok Air had weighed my checked backpack at 8 kg, but when it arrived at DMK, AirAsia had weighed it at 10 kg! So, my bag supposedly gained 2 kg after just 1 hour and 10 minutes of flight...??? 😮

Nok Air offers 15 kg of baggage for free, while AirAsia offers nothing—you have to buy 15 kg (300 baht) when purchasing your ticket or pay 900 baht at the counter for the same allowance. Excess baggage costs 400 baht per additional kg.

Low-cost airlines worldwide (and even major carriers) are eyeing baggage weight—having paid for it with Corsair before—but these "extra" 2 kg that magically appeared are still worth pointing out. My bag weighed 7.8 kg when leaving YUL (Air China), and it’s a 35L backpack that also weighed 8 kg on the way back.

So, be careful...

"😎😎"
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My family trip to Thailand
Hi everyone, I’m Thomas, and I’d like to share my trip to Thailand with you. First, I’ll try to walk you through my preparations, my impressions, and what’s left of it all. Then, I’ll gradually post my travel journal as I review it—because right now, it’s not very appealing!

First off, it was an amazing trip. The planning started in January, but the decision to go was made back in September or October 2011. We bought our flight tickets, then chose hotels and made reservations based on the locations and the excursions they offered. We also booked train tickets for the overnight trips between Ayutthaya and Chiang Mai, and then between Chiang Mai and Bangkok. With each passing day leading up to the departure, the excitement grew, along with every new reservation. Finally, vacation day arrived, and we were off. We packed our bags the week before: 2 backpacks and 3 carry-ons. Our route: Paris → Bangkok → Ayutthaya → Chiang Mai → Chanthaburi → Bangkok → Paris → Strasbourg. Almost three weeks in total.

I was surprised by the number of big 4x4s and cars on the roads. I was expecting more two-wheelers! And the tuning scene is huge—wheels, exhaust pipes, steering wheels... they really go all out. The people are attentive, helpful, and always smiling. Okay, it’s the Land of Smiles, but it’s still nice. The landscapes are beautiful, and the air always feels fresh. The food is spicy if you don’t remember to say "no spicy," but it’s delicious. The fruits are fresh and sweet, the sea is warm... Dogs roam freely, people don’t really bother with them, and the same goes for cats. Tiny lizards scurry across ceilings, while giant ones swim in the water. The roads are generally in good condition, and the trains move slowly.

I’ll be back soon with the first day of the trip.
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First solo trip to Thailand
Hi everyone, I’m planning a solo trip for November. I’ve chosen Thailand because it’s my first solo trip and I wanted a country that’s easy and safe for a woman (though maybe you have other suggestions?), but also because of this time of year when the monsoon is hitting many Asian countries. A lot of people have confirmed that Thailand is a destination where everything is relatively easy for a first solo trip: getting around the country (buses and trains), great food, beautiful beaches, stunning countryside, decent safety, etc... This trip comes after a major burnout and professional exhaustion 😵‍💫. I quit my job this week and need to recharge and clear my head before diving back into the professional grind... I’m looking for peaceful landscapes away from mass tourism, combining mountains, countryside, and beaches. I need moments of free wandering, yoga, sightseeing, and maybe some woofing. I love authenticity, contemplation, and beautiful things in simplicity. Thanks for your route and accommodation ideas 😊! Armelle
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First Time in Thailand: Advice for 15-Day Itinerary
Hello everyone,

We’re 49 years old, love beautiful landscapes, meeting locals, discovering local food and traditions, and we avoid overly touristy places. We enjoy hiking, cycling, running, and diving.

This is our first time in Thailand (my husband knows Bangkok). We arrive on Friday, November 13th in Bangkok (city visit) and return on Friday, November 27th. We’re considering heading south (possibly toward Krabi) from the 14th to the 18th to enjoy the beautiful beaches, go diving, and see Khao Sok... Then back to Bangkok and on to Kanchanaburi to see the Sai Yok Noi waterfalls, followed by a bike visit to Ayutthaya. From there, we’d take an overnight train to the north: Chiang Mai, Chiang Rai, and the Lantern Festival from November 21st to 25th. On the 26th, we’d take a flight from Chiang Mai to Bangkok (city visit), and on the 27th, we have our flight back to France.

Does this itinerary seem too packed? Should we remove some things to avoid feeling rushed and fully enjoy the trip? Do you recommend anything other than Krabi?

Thanks for your help
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