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Hôtel Bahia Principe San Juan English translation pending
by Blitz48 · 2005-11-27 · 8 replies
Bonsoir à vous tous,

J'ai l'intention d'aller à cette hôtel au mois de février. J'aimerais savoir si vous avez des commentaires. Je dois faire vite car il faut que je réserve avant le 30 novembre. Quel différence y a t-il entre chambre standard, room, golden et diamond à part le prix.

merci 😉
Voyage en direct: réservation internet English translation pending
by Semailles · 2005-09-17 · 2 replies
J'aimerais savoir si quelqu'un a déja bouquer un voyage par internet avec voyage en direct. Il ya une bonne différence de prix. Mon agent club golden 2 semaines en février $2, 906.50 et avec voyage en direct club golden $2, 638.80. Bonne différence Départ de Mtl. Merci 🤪
Grand Bahia Principe vs Bahia Principe Bavaro et Club Diamond? English translation pending
by Semailles · 2005-09-15 · 9 replies
Salut, je prévois un voyage en RD en février et nous sommes pas mal décidé pour l'hotel grand bahia principe punta cana. J'aimerais que quelqu'un me reseingne sur les différence entre le golden club - bahia principe bavaro - club dimond - Les renseignement que j'ai lu me disent que le golden club est séparé et face à l'hotel ???? J'epère avoir de vos nouvelle bientot. Merci Semailles 😉
Logement au Cambodge English translation pending
by Botoum · 2005-08-29 · 1 reply
preparation de voyage au cambodge avec ma petite famille(2 enfants), en decembre, je recherche des adresses sympa et correctes pour séjourner sur SR, kep...etc Petit voyage pelerinage ds un pays où j'ai vecu il y a 30 ans.
Hôtel Bahia Principe ou Ocean Blue Golf and Sand? English translation pending
by Pinacolada · 2005-08-23 · 6 replies
nous allons partir au mois de mars 2006 pour la quatrième fois en république dominicaine, nous avons déjà fait le MELIA, le GRAND FLAMENCO, le H 10 (devenu je crois océan beach), nous hésitons entre le BAHIA PRINCIPE (SECTION GOLDEN) et l'OCEAN BLUE GOLF (qui est je pense un tout nouvel hôtel). Qui est allé dans un des deux pour nous donner leur avis. Merci d'avance
Guest house à Amritsar en Inde? English translation pending
by Naps · 2005-08-22 · 5 replies
quelqu un a t il une bonne adresse pas chere a me donner pour amritsar? merci beaucoup...
Dancing a Siem Reap? English translation pending
by Chanh · 2005-05-23 · 4 replies
Quel est la boîte la plus sympa avec de la chouette musique pour aller danser à Siem Reap ???

Thu
Cambodge: guesthouse à Siem riep English translation pending
by Lamini · 2005-04-22 · 17 replies
Pouvez vous m indiquer le nom d un guesthouse sympa à Siem Riep.

Merci

🙂
Conseils pour un itinéraire de 10 jours aux Philippines English translation pending
by Remaste · 2005-04-22 · 12 replies
Bonjour a vous passionnes par les philippines.

J ai epluche la recherche et ai plein d info; merci

Maintenant je ne veux pas etre trop gourmand et succite votre aide pour mon voyage de ... 10 jours😊 aux phil.

Pourquoi 10 ou 12 jour tout au plus: car la chine donne la golden week et que je prends une semine en plus sur mes cours de fac pour me rendre sur ces iles paradisiaques.🙂

Bon; j ai trouve plein d info et me demande parmis tous ces sites lesquels retiennent le plus votre attention.

J aimerai bien bien bouger alors qu est ce que je peux faire avec tout ca!!😕

la cordilleres de luzon Banaue, la "route" Bagan-Sagada-Baguio, Vigan, Taal lake sur Luzon Mindoro

sagada"Le bus part a 22h et arrive sur banaue vers 7/8h du matin, on arrive a dormir mais le probleme, c'est qu'il s'arrete pratiquement toutes les 2h mais bon... "

sinon merci pour ca: 'Vous devrez eviter Manille et les grandes villes (davao, cebu, baguio, iloilo...).'😛

surigao island Bacuit Archipel mactan bantayan santa fe batad busuanga et coron camiguin

Il y a vraiment trop de choses a faire. Non il y atellement a voir a decouvrir, je suis perdu😊😊

que pensez vous de ce parcours propose par un forumiste... desole j ai oublie son pseudo😊. le tour MAnille-Banaue-Sagada-Baguio-100 Islands

Je ne fais pas de plongee, adore la nature, les plage, et la marche, bref un peu comme vous!🙂

merci a vous. je sais que la question est redondante sur les phil mais sans guides (je sais que les guides ne font pas tous aussi...) et avec que 10 ou 12 jours... que faire?

Bon voyage a tous. et vivement le 3 mai pour le depart... en esperant ne pas tomber sur trop de typhons la bas!!😄

Remy
Japon: réservations/bons plans logement/dico franco-japonais English translation pending
by EvilChicken · 2005-04-19 · 12 replies
Le 2 mai nous partons à deux pour 3 semaines au Japon ! Mais volià, comme on est un peu des branquignoles, on a encore rien réservé (et en + on arrive en pleine "Golden Week")... Considérons que nous voudrions utiliser le moins de budget possible pour le logement.

Mes questions : Connaissez-vous des logements "cheap" mais cool ?Une fois sur place, où trouver des "bons plans"On me dit que la communication avec les japonnais est assez ardue, pourriez-vous me conseiller un guide de conversation ou un dictionnaire de poche ? (du genre de celui de Bill Muray dans "Lost in Translation"😉)

Tout autre conseil est évidemment le bienvenu (lieux à voir, bar à tester, resto à goûter...) Merci

Mathieu
Résumé Bahia Principe Punta Cana English translation pending
by Denisdenise · 2005-04-17 · 29 replies
De retour du Bahia Principe …

Premièrement je dois vous dire que j’ai adoré ce voyage et cet hôtel. Hôtel qui mérite grandement ses 5 étoiles.

Ce fut une semaine de rêve et de luxe. Nous étions dans la section Golden Club

Nous avons fait un voyage en soirée et sommes arrivés à l’hôtel vers 1h30 du matin.

Petite déception en arrivant car service très lent et très peu courtois à la réception. Aussi, il y avait une forte odeur désagréable et nous nous sommes rendus compte que cette odeur provenait du centre du lobby où il y a 3 gigantesques palmiers baignant dans un espace d’eau. C’est cette odeur d’eau corrompue qui était si désagréable et répugnante.

Les bagagistes, eux, sont très efficaces et rapides. Nous avons été très heureux de voir notre chambre malgré le fait qu’avec toute la quantité de photos que j’avais vues sur internet, cela n’était plus une surprise. Par contre, sur la table reposait un plateau très bien arrangé avec sandwich et fruits. Comme je suis un peu craintive sur la nourriture et que je n’avais aucune idée depuis quand cette nourriture était placée dans la chambre (ne pas oublier qu’il était environ 2h00am) nous avons préféré ne pas y toucher. Mais j’ai quand même bien aimé cette forme de bienvenue. Nous avons fait le tour de la chambre qui est superbe, beaucoup de rangement pour les vêtements quoique j’étais heureuse d’avoir apporté des ceintres supplémentaires. Frigo bien garni et le plein est refait à tous les jours sans exception. L’air climatisé fonctionne très bien et le ventilateur en haut du lit est efficace.

Nous étions dans une villa à deux étages et nous étions au deuxième. Aucun insecte dans la chambre à part un maringouin qui nous a dérangé en pleine nuit en nous chantant à l’oreille.

Parlant d’insectes… très peu sauf le dernier soir en prenant l’apéro dehors, il y en avait beaucoup et je me suis fait piquer une bonne dizaine de fois. Moi je les attire je crois.

La plage et l’eau : elle est superbe, propre et des chaises en très grande quantité. Par contre, en fin d’avant-midi celles qui ne sont pas réservées se font râres. Et puis il y a des employés qui se feront un plaisir (pour un dollar bien sur) de vous trouver une chaise juste pour vous. L’eau est très belle et clair. Des vagues il y en avait mais pas vraiment des grosses pour s’y amuser. Nous ne marchons pas longtemps dans l’eau que nous en avons déjà à la taille. (petit inconvénient je dirais pour ceux qui ont de jeunes enfants car ça devient creux rapidement). Et comme plusieurs l’on mentionné, nous pouvons marcher très très longtemps sur la plage. Super pour les gens qui sont plus en forme que moi.

Piscine : La piscine principale (près de la plage) est immense et il y a beaucoup d’activités. Nous avons préféré l’une des deux piscines centrales où c’était beaucoup plus tranquille et intime malgré le fait qu’il y avait toujours de la belle musique qu’il me fait plaisir à réentendre. A la piscine j’ai acheté un CD ($10. US) des chansons que nous entendions (les principales). Je les écoute avec nostalgie. Aussi quelques activités à ces piscines comme la période d’aérobie dans l’eau où j’ai eu beaucoup de plaisir à participer. L’animateur était trop drôle !!

Buffet : Je suis assez difficile et pas très « ouverte » pour essayer des plats que je ne connais pas. C’est bien. Juste bien. Et il y a des jours où j’étais très heureuse de retrouver de la pizza (excellente). Il y a énormément de choix par contre et à tous les jours il y a un cuisinier qui fait des pâtes avec les ingrédients que vous choisissez. Chaque soirée a un thème particulier (poisson, mets italiens, mets mexicains etc etc). Les serveurs au buffet sont très gentils et courtois et si vous parlez espagnol, ils deviendront vite vos « amis ». Dommage que je ne connais que le français et l’anglais. Puisque je parle de nourriture… je ne dois pas oublier le vin… rouge et blanc, beaucoup mieux que ce que j’avais entendu parler sur les sites. Très correct. Et les verres ne deviennent jamais vides… croyez moi !!

Restaurants à la carte : Il y en a 6 et nous avons eu droit à 4. Nous sommes allés au Gourmet deux fois et cela a été notre préféré. Vous pouvez même commander en français !!

Essayez la mozaique de fruits de mer ! Et le mille feuilles comme dessert ! Ne ratez pas l’occasion de commander un café irlandais qui est sublime. Très bon service à ce restaurant. Puis nous sommes allés au restaurant Japonais. La nourriture est très bonne. Viande, volaille, crevettes, poisson, tout était cuit devant nous et était de très bonne qualité et de très bon goût. Nous sommes 10 personnes à table et le chef s’exécute devant nous. Le seul point négatif c’est que nous sommes invités à manger très rapidement. Vraiment très rapidement. Assez pour être frustré légèrement. Comme cela a déjà été écrit sur les forums, nous traversons dans une salle à manger différente pour manger (lentement) notre dessert. Le Garden Grill est bien mais le service était très ordinaire. Disons que le sourire était râre. La personne qui a pris notre commande n’a pas compris ceux qui ont commandé un steak très saignant. Ils ont reçu un steak plus que très très bien cuit. Il était noir. Mon conjoint a mangé le sien quand même alors que l’autre personne a retourné son assiette. Le steak qui lui a été servi par la suite était délicieux avec une cuisson parfaite. Moi j’ai mangé une poitrine de poulet qui était très bonne. Nous avons rencontré des gens là-bas avec qui nous avons pris quelques repas et eux sont allés au restaurant de poisson. Ils ont choisi l’assiette de fruits de mer pour deux et en voyant l’assiette….ils sont tout simplement sortis du restaurant pour se retrouver au buffet. Ce qu’ils ont dit : « tout plein de paires de yeux de poissons dans l’assiette qui vous regardent… pas d’accompagnement…juste des poissons avec la tête et tout. » C’est pour ça que nous avons annulé notre réservation à ce restaurant et sommes retournés une deuxième fois au restaurant le Gourmet.

Petit détail sur le vin : Il est servi en bouteille et peu importe si vous êtes dans un des restaurants ou bien au buffet c’est le même vin qui vous sera servi.

Quoi d’autres…. ??

Départ tardif : Nous avions un vol de nuit pour le retour et je vous avoue que je ne recommencerai l’expérience à moins d’y être vraiment obligée. Il a fallu quitté la chambre à midi. (il en aurait couté $20. US de l’heure pour garder la chambre plus longtemps). Nous avons mis nos valises dans un endroit spécial (non sécuritaire car on peut même aller chercher des choses dans nos valises si besoin) et nous avons profité de notre journée à la piscine, bar et buffet. Nous avions préparé une petite valise pour la journée avec vêtement de rechange pour le départ.. Nous avions placé nos choses importantes (passeports, caméra, argent etc) dans le coffre-fort de la chambre des gens que nous avons connu là-bas. Pour ce qui est de prendre une douche en fin de journée…. L On avait droit à une chambre de courtoisie disponible pour les gens comme nous qui partaient tard et ce entre 14 heures et 18 heures. Naturellement, nous avons étiré jusqu’à 17 heures pour pouvoir profiter de la piscine le plus longtemps possible. Il y avait deux chambres de courtoisie… et arrivés là…il y avait une file de gens qui attendaient pour prendre leur douche. Nous avons eu droit à 10 minutes pour prendre deux douches (mon conjoint et moi). Au bout de 10 minutes, si vous n’êtes pas sortis, la femme de chambre qui contrôle tout ça vient frapper à ta porte. Ouf !!!! Il a donc fallu attendre jusqu’à 22h30 pour que l’on vienne nous chercher à l’hôtel pour se rendre à l’aéroport. Oui… nous pouvons profiter de cette dernière journée au complet mais c’est trop d’attente et trop fatiguant. Une journée de chaleur et ne pas pouvoir aller à la chambre se reposer un peu à l’air frais c’est très très fatiguant.

Le service internet a été gratuit pour nous. (section Golden Club) et nous avons apprécié ce service que nous avons utilisé à deux reprises.

Service à la clientèle : très bon service si tout va bien. Gens souriants, heureux de te voir, très courtois, polis, amical etc etc. Si ça devient compliqué, si tu as quelques problèmes, si petit soient-ils, alors n’espère pas avoir de l’aide. Trop compliqué pour eux.

Spectacle : Nous sommes des gens qui ne veillons pas très tard et nous avons assisté à deux spectacles seulement. Nous nous sommes ennuyés

Excursion : Nous en avons fait qu’une seule. Le BAVARO RUNNER. Nous avons adoré cette sortie. Je la conseille fortement. Une journée complete et remplie d’activités différentes. Nous avions un guide (Alex) qui était vraiment super. Le tour était en français et nous étions environs 20 personnes. Nous avons visité un champs de canne à sucre (y avons goûté). Nous avons visité un musée de cigares. Nous sommes allés chez une habitante dans sa demeure et sur sa terre. Nous y avons vu des plans d’ananas, des cacaotiers, des arbres à café, des plans de vanille etc etc. Nous avons goûter à tout plein de choses, appris tout plein de choses également sur ses aliments. Nous sommes allés dans une école et j’ai pu offrir des bonbons aux jeunes enfants. Ils étaient si beaux à voir. Ils nous ont même chanté une chanson pour nous remercier. Moment très émouvant pour moi. Nous avons fait du cheval pendant environ 45 minutes. Très doucement et je vous dirais que pour moi et bien d’autres personnes qui ont peur, ce fut super agréable et sécuritaire. Nous avons mangé un repas typique et je crois que j’en oublie. Ce fut une journée très enrichissante pour moi. Le groupe avec qui nous étions était vraiment sympathique… un mélange de Français et de Québecois. Le cout de cette excursion : $80. US par personne. Nous sommes revenus à nos hôtels vers 17h00

En conclusion, ce fut une semaine de rêve. Cet hôtel est superbe. Très grand mais très facile de s’y repérer. Il y a tellement de petit trains en fonction que nous n’attendons au gros maximum 3 à 5 minutes. C’est propre, tellement propre. Il y a tellement de personnel en place. J’ai même vu à la plage une personne qui a comme travail de balayer l’escalier menant au buffet du midi (le buffet de la plage). Les gens s’y rendent pieds nus et le sable s’accumule rapidement dans l’escalier. L’employé ne semble faire que ça. Passer le balai dans ce même escalier. Ca démontre à quel point il y a du monde pour voir à tout.

Je retournerais sans AUCUNE hésitation à cet hôtel.

Je suis ouverte à toutes les questions et très disponibles à y répondre.

Denise

Québec

(mille excuses pour les fautes... je n'avais pas le goût de me relire)
hotel calimera hurghada est ce un bon hotel? English translation pending
by Leelou4 · 2005-03-23 · 32 replies
bonjour je vais peut etre partir au calimera 4 etoiles par switch est ce un bon hotel? quels sont ces inconvenients? merci
comment faire pour payer à Hurgada English translation pending
by Kalys · 2005-02-21 · 8 replies
bonjour

j'aimerais savoir comment fait on pour payer à Hurgada dans les boutiques si on fait des excursions, souvenirs ect...

Avec la Visa peut on retirer espèce dans les guichets?

Merci de repondre
Crown Paradise Club de Puerto Vallarta English translation pending
by Sashimi · 2005-01-15 · 10 replies
Bonjour à vous tous !

Je suis toute nouvelle sur ce forum alors je voudrais premièrement vous dire un beau bonjour. 😎

J'ai fait une recherche sur le site pour trouver l'Hotel "Crown Paradise Club" de Puerto Vallarta mais sans résultat (ne faut pas confondre avec le Golden Crown Paradise Resort)

Est-ce que par un heureux hasard, y aurait-il une personne qui est déjà allé à cet hotel et qui saurait me donner un bref appercu de la propreté, la plage, le service, la bouffe, l'animation, les spectacles etc.

Je vous remercie d'avance et j'espère avoir votre aide.

À plus

Sashimi, due pour des vacances...
Hôtels de Djerba English translation pending
by Jipy · 2005-01-02 · 3 replies
Bonjour, je recherche des infos sur ces hotels et surtout sur la plage, la propreté et l'animation ainsi que la langue principale utilisée car je suis allé au Golden Beach de Monastir il y a 2 ans et l'hôtel était infesté d'allemand et les animations étaient en Allemand aussi donc je préfère me renseigner avant de réserver car je préfère quand même aller ou l'on parle le Francais ! Abou Nawas Djerba ( Midoun ) Melia Palm Azur Djerba ( Midoun ) LTI Djerba Holiday Beach ( Midoun ) Oasis Marines Djerba ( Zarzis )
Bahia Principe Club Hacienda English translation pending
by Devils8 · 2004-12-13 · 1 reply
Bonjour à tous,

Mon premier voyage dans le sud! Enfin!

J'aimerais avoir quelques infos sur le Bahia Principe à Punta Cana. J'ai réservé en club hacienda et je me demande ce que ça veux dire! Je sais qu'il y a le golden et le hacienda mais quelle est la différence?

Merci à l'avance
Vélo à San Francisco English translation pending
by Lestefe · 2004-11-26 · 11 replies
Quelqu'un connais un loueur de vélo à San Francisco???

Plutôt du côté du pier 39!

Pour faire la côte vers le Golden Gate...

MERCi!!!! Stef
Camping recommendations in Cape Town and around
by Coraliepasca · 2026-08-13 · 2 replies
Hi there, We’ll be traveling in January 2027 in a 4x4 with a rooftop tent with our three kids, from Johannesburg to Cape Town. We’ve already booked several campsites in national parks (Golden Gate / Mountain Zebra / Addo Elephant / Garden Route). We still need to reserve the stretch between De Hoop Nature Reserve and Cape Town. Any suggestions? We’d love to stay around Cape Town for 5 days to explore the wine route, the peninsula, and do some hikes in Table Mountain. Any camping recommendations? Or, on the contrary, places to avoid?

Also, we have 2 nights left near Wilderness National Park / Knysna. Any recommendations? Thanks so much for your help!
Trip Report: Silk Road Journey in China
by Bertrand31 · 2025-11-10 · 10 replies
Hi everyone,

This trip report covers a journey along the Silk Road in China (see detailed description below) undertaken in October 2025. The goal isn’t to recount the trip but to provide information that might help those who want to take a similar journey. Much of the information is valid for any trip to China.

Who we are: a retired couple, aged 63 and 65 (age gives discounts on entry to various sites and museums in China, which is why I won’t list prices here—I don’t know them, but you can easily find them online). We’re used to traveling independently. We speak English, which is the only foreign language spoken in China, though by very few people. I speak and read a little Chinese, which helped, but you can easily get by without it (without any English at all, I think it would be more difficult).

Period: We arrived just after "Golden Week," when all of China is on vacation, and after the summer, when schools are out, so we encountered very few tourists (99.99% of whom were Chinese). Our experience with booking visits in advance (which we didn’t need to do) isn’t representative for those who want to travel in the summer! The October-November period was perfect for our trip—it wasn’t too hot or too cold (one day of snow on the Tibetan Plateau), though it was only a few degrees on the Tibetan part, with altitudes between 2,000 and 3,000 meters. The trees were beautifully colored.

General remarks: Everyone we dealt with was very kind and perfectly honest. If you order a meal without really understanding what to do and the person modifies your order, trust them—the result is what you need. If a taxi driver signals that they’ll wait for you to finish your visit and pick you up afterward, trust them. It means there aren’t many taxis where you are, and it’ll be more convenient. For prices at street vendors, we always found the right ballpark, and sometimes they even added a little extra to please us. A taxi driver treated us to lunch, and an employee drove us back to the hotel after a visit because there were no taxis. If you struggle to buy a ticket online because there’s no counter, someone will come to help. People even spontaneously ask if everything’s okay and if you need anything.

Everywhere we went was very clean, including restrooms (trains, stations, hotels, museums, tourist sites) and streets. The old stereotypes about this no longer apply.

The trip can be challenging for those who have difficulty walking. The distances to cover on foot in stations, to access sites, and within the sites themselves can sometimes be really long.

We used the Lonely Planet guide in English (published at the end of August 2025) a little for preparation, but mostly relied on the internet.

Before leaving: No visa is needed for French citizens for stays under 30 days. You get a stamp on your passport upon arrival and departure, and the formalities themselves are very quick in both directions (excluding any potential queues). Just a photo and fingerprints upon arrival, and welcome to China’s facial recognition system.

Money: All your payments (see below) will go through your Visa card—there will be hundreds, including many payments of 20 cents to a few euros. So, you need an international option that allows unlimited card transactions. Since cash is rarely needed, the allowed number of ATM withdrawals can be low. We made 3 withdrawals totaling 800 € for a month and could have managed with just 2. The exchange rate charged on our Visa card was 12 € for 100 RMB (yuan).

Install the following apps on your smartphone before leaving (otherwise, you’ll only have access to the Chinese versions, if available): - Alipay, which is used to pay everywhere in China (details below). You need to link it to your credit card, then provide proof of identity by uploading a passport photo and completing a facial recognition session. Alipay gives access to Didi (China’s Uber), public transport (metro/bus), and can also translate phrases. - WeChat (Weixin in Chinese, pronounced *weishin*), which is also used for payments but also replaces WhatsApp. Unfortunately, to activate your account, you need someone who already has WeChat to sponsor you (preferably a Chinese person). We asked someone at our first accommodations to do this—no problem. By sharing your WeChat number with accommodations, they can send you messages that are automatically translated, and you can communicate with people thanks to the translation (translation to French is very poor; it’s much better in English, but unfortunately, WeChat detects your phone’s language). Alipay and WeChat are accepted almost everywhere, but some places only accept WeChat. - Amap, the international version of Baidu Maps, which replaces Google Maps (not at all up-to-date in China). The English names of hotels often have little to do with the Chinese names except for a phonetic resemblance. To find them on Amap, it’s best to copy the Chinese name found on your Trip reservation under "show address in Chinese." - A VPN. We had CyberGhost, which didn’t work, but according to other travelers, NordVPN and Windscribe do. Without a VPN, you can’t access Google services, on WhatsApp you can send and receive text but not photos, and you can’t send or receive emails on Gmail addresses. We managed without a VPN by using Firefox as a browser and Bing as a search engine. - Trip, for booking trains and accommodations, and buying some tickets. It’s the equivalent of Booking for accommodations, but Booking has very few listings in China, while Trip has hundreds in every city. Most hotels and trains are exchangeable and refundable until the day before, with no or minimal fees.

You don’t need contactless (NFC) payment on your phone. Either you scan a barcode and enter the amount to pay, or you display a barcode, and they scan it with a scanner, and the amount is deducted directly.

Upon arrival: - Buy a Chinese SIM card: 100 RMB for 300 GB of data and several hours of talk time (we didn’t use it). Set the Chinese number as a reference on Alipay, WeChat, and Amap. - Find someone to sponsor you on WeChat.

Transportation: - **Plane**: China Eastern, Paris-Canton then Canton-Urumqi on the way out, and Xian-Canton then Canton-Paris on the way back. International flights were smooth, but the schedules for the two domestic flights were changed. It was fine on the way out because we had some leeway, but on the way back, we were notified the morning of that our flight was canceled and replaced with one that didn’t allow for the connection. We called and changed to an earlier flight (I think we were lucky to find available seats). - **Train**: Most long distances were covered by high-speed trains (called D or G in China) at 240 or 300 km/h. Second class is perfect—just as comfortable and clean as our TGVs. The only advantage of first class is the wider seats for larger people, but the downside is that seats are often booked in advance and thus less available. You can book trains long in advance on Trip, but they only go on sale in China 15 days before departure, so that’s when you’ll know if you have a ticket. Initially, we booked first class, but there were no seats available on the day, so we ended up booking everything in second class, which was perfect. There’s no paper ticket—if you’ve bought one, you go to the station, show your passport, and enter. You do the same to access the platform 15 minutes before the train, and that’s it. Our train was canceled twice, but no problem—we went to the ticket counter, got a refund, and were offered a replacement. It didn’t delay us by more than an hour (maybe it would be harder in peak season). For prices, check Trip.com, but it’s significantly cheaper than in France. - **Bus**: We took the bus between Xining and Tongren, Tongren to Xiahe, and Hezuo to Lanzhou—about 3 hours each time for 200 km, 6 € per person, and departures were right on time. - **Taxi**: For trips between the station and hotel, or hotel and visits. If you take a Didi via the Alipay app, you activate your location, enter your destination, and it offers several taxis. You accept, and you get the car’s license plate and its real-time position on the map. When you get in, the driver often asks for the last four digits of your phone number to confirm. Otherwise, you go to the taxi stand outside the station. The price per kilometer is around 20 cents, so for a 30 km trip from the station to the hotel, you’ll pay about 6 €. We never tried to save more by taking local buses, but since the metro in Xian costs 25 cents per trip, it’s probably in the same ballpark. Amap provides public transport routes like Google Maps. - **Driver**: We hired a taxi/driver for the day several times for sightseeing. Prices ranged from 350 to 1,000 RMB (the most expensive was arranged through the Sofitel Xining concierge) for trips ranging from a few hours to a full day, sometimes covering over 300 km (see the detailed trip description).

Accommodations: All booked in advance on Trip, but several were changed during the trip. Off-season, there were no issues. We mostly stayed in upscale places, but in China, that means 50 to 60 € per night in the most central or convenient neighborhood. Note: Almost all hotels have a 5/5 rating on Trip, but it seems the Chinese avoid giving lower ratings to be polite. So, you have to read the comments to realize that in France, we might have given a 2 or 3!

Food: At the table, you’re served hot water or a hot infusion, presumably made with purified water. We never got sick from drinking it, but don’t drink tap water. Purified or mineral water is easy to find.

In restaurants, you can manage by pointing to the dish you want from another diner, on the wall where there are photos, or on the menu with pictures. The food in the region isn’t often spicy, and people usually ask or signal before adding the red spicy sauce, so you should be able to handle it if you don’t like chili at all.

The "fake old quarters" in several cities are great places to find all kinds of restaurants (see detailed trip below).

Like Google Maps, Amap can show you nearby restaurants.

Shopping: For dried fruits, buy them in Turfan—you won’t find the same variety and quality even in Xian. Generally, if you like something, buy it. If you wait, you might not find it outside the region where you are.

In Xian, there’s a "Tea City" where you can find all kinds of tea (from cheap to very expensive).

The trip in more detail: I won’t dwell on the beauty or interest of the sites here since that’s a matter of personal taste. However, I will do so for lesser-known places to give an idea to those who might be interested.

For many sites, there are shuttles (sometimes not included in the ticket price but costing around 1 €) that take you to the interesting spots. We always took them—it saves you from walking past countless shops or along uninteresting paths.

- **Urumqi**: We spent only one night there, arriving in the middle of the afternoon and leaving the next morning. We stayed at the Dana Hotel in the bazaar. Given the size of the city, it’s a good option because I don’t think there are many other interesting places. The bazaar is brand new and not at all "typical" (Turfan’s bazaar is infinitely more interesting), but the dining area is very nice.

- **Turfan**: Stayed at the New Dap Hostel, which was great. The neighborhood is nice, not far from the city, and easy to find food. The museum is closed until 2026 (Amap provides museum hours and closures). We took a day trip (for the two of us) with a driver to the Bezeklik Caves, Flaming Mountains, the abandoned city of Gaochang, the Tuyuk Village Museum, and the Emin Minaret for 500 RMB from 9 AM to 8 PM (arranged by the hostel). The landscape during the excursion was quite fabulous. We also visited the Karez Museum and the abandoned city of Jiaohe on our own the next day. At this time of year, the sun sets around 6 PM, and there’s often haze after 5 PM, so for Jiaohe, for example, which takes about 3 hours to visit, it’s best to be there by 1 or 2 PM at the latest.

The Dahua Market area is perfect for dried fruits (including the famous grapes), and you can eat there among locals in their traditional costumes. Next to it, there are buildings full of shops selling made-in-China items—it kept us busy for a good half-day, if not more.

- **Dunhuang**: Stayed in a guesthouse near the dunes—the city center isn’t far but seems quite artificial. Visited the dunes, with a ticket valid for 3 days. Lots of Chinese tourists—very typical and interesting from an ethnological perspective 😊. We got up early one morning to climb the highest dune, just beyond the one everyone goes to. It’s a bit long and tiring, but the view is worth it. Visited the Mogao Caves, buying the ticket on-site (no chance in season without booking in advance). We met two other French people and got a French-speaking guide (by pretending not to understand English). It was really worth it—a group of 4 instead of 20, and they took their time (2 hours) for the visit. We took a day trip to the Yulin Caves (2.5 hours by road and 160 km one way) with a driver for 350 RMB. We liked it a lot, but if the Mogao Caves are enough for you, it’s not very different.

- **Jiayuguan**: Stayed in a city-center hotel. Visited the Wei and Jin tombs (actually just one)—that’s where we were told the taxi should wait to take us back to the city. We went down into a crypt with lots of decorated bricks from the 3rd century. We really liked it, but it’s not as spectacular as the fort if you’re not a fan. Visited the Jiayuguan Fort and, with the same ticket, climbed a small section of the Great Wall 10 km away. Plan at least 3 good hours for all this—there’s plenty to see.

- **Zhangye**: Stayed at The Silk Road Travelers Hostel, rustic but very nice and organizes excursions. Visited the Danxia (colored mountains)—just as spectacular as the photos. You can easily spend 3 hours there, so plan to finish before sunset to avoid the haze (you can always stay longer for the sunset if the weather’s nice). The next day, visited the Mati Si Temple in the cliff. The 10,000 Buddha Caves are under renovation, but the setting and the main temple are well worth the visit (the paths through the cliff tunnels must be hellish in peak season). You can probably organize these two excursions yourself by asking any taxi driver. Also visited the Giant Buddha Temple in the city center—really worth it.

- **Xining**: Stayed in a city-center hotel. Visited the Tibetan Medicine Museum to see the world’s largest thangka (1 km long), made over 40 years by renowned artists. It’s absolutely magnificent, on par with the virtuosity (but over 1 km) of the thangkas painted by famous artists in Xiahe (see below). Hired a female taxi driver for the day to visit Kumbum Monastery (Ta’er Si in Chinese) and the Danxia area in Guide, 50 km beyond the monastery. It’s less spectacular than Zhangye’s Danxia, but we really liked it (including the journey’s landscape). The next day, visited the old Ming-era Qutan Monastery—no visitors, with beautiful murals (half under renovation). Accessible by train to Haidong or Ledu, then a taxi. Xining’s mosque is of no interest, but there’s a pedestrian street with food stalls nearby that’s very nice.

- **Tongren**: Stayed near the main monastery. Visited Longwu Monastery (several hours), with lots of nice shops along the street leading to it. Then visited Wutun Monastery, which is less lively but beautiful and close to thangka workshops. You can go in and watch the painters at work. For a thangka made by a renowned artist, count about a year of work for 1 m² and around 10,000 €.

- **Xiahe**: Stayed in a city-center hotel. Visited Labrang Monastery—very nice but not as much as Tongren’s because many halls were closed. I think it’s better to go in season and take an English-guided tour (but it’s still worth the trip, even off-season).

- **Langmusi**: Took a taxi, but you can also take a bus (though very early in the morning and longer). Particularly beautiful for us because we woke up to bright sunshine and 5 cm of snow everywhere. Visited the two temples (really nice) and did the classic hike in the gorges starting at the Fairy Cave. For those interested, we continued along the canyon path, and after the meadow where marmots are clearly visible in summer, we climbed toward a pass on the left at 3,800 meters. The view of Langmusi and, above all, the vast grasslands and distant mountains was fabulous (3 hours round trip from the temple). You could probably reach the 4,000-meter summit by continuing up the valley instead of turning left, but according to guides, it’s better to count 7 hours round trip (no technical difficulty). You can leave Langmusi by bus, but off-season, you first have to take a taxi to a stop outside the city and wait for the bus. We didn’t try and took a taxi to Hezuo instead.

Note on this region: A high-speed train is under construction from Xining to Langmusi and beyond (never seen such an impressive construction site!). When it’s operational (in one or two years, I think), access to the area will be revolutionized, and perhaps some of the charm will be lost.

- **Hezuo**: Stopped on the way from Langmusi to Lanzhou. Visited the Milarepa Pagoda, entirely destroyed during the Cultural Revolution and since rebuilt. We liked it since we were passing through, but it doesn’t necessarily justify a long detour.

- **Lanzhou**: Reached by one of the many buses from Hezuo. Stayed in the "fake old quarter," which is extremely pleasant, especially in the evening with restaurants, groups of Chinese women dancing to loud music, etc. Visited Bingling Si with a driver, 120 km away—the landscape and site are absolutely magnificent, with no one around at our time of year. Visited the Gansu Museum (where the famous Flying Horse is, but it’s a replica). We bought the ticket on entry, but in season, you probably need to book in advance.

- **Yinchuan**: Stayed in the city center. A city we discovered by chance in the Lonely Planet—worth it if you have time. On the way, we stopped for a few hours in Zhongwei, where there’s an incredible Taoist temple (I’ll let you be surprised). Visited the Western Xia tombs—we took the short option, which visits Tomb 3. We think the others are similar but less impressive. The surrounding landscape and site are quite spectacular. Visited the film sets (really fun if you like Chinese movies), the short but interesting Ningxia Museum, and finally the modern art museum. The architecture is avant-garde, and there are some beautiful works (we like it, but it’s far from the center—hire a driver who waits, or you might have to wait for an employee to offer a ride back).

- **Tianshui**: Stayed in the suburbs, but you should find a hotel near the "fake old quarter" between the Fu Xi Temples and the Taoist temple—it’s a very nice area, and the two temples (especially the Taoist one) are within walking distance. Visited the Maijishan Caves—the ticket includes the shuttle to get there. Took a taxi from Lanzhou for about 10 € in 45 minutes. We found these caves fabulous.

- **Xi’an**: Stayed 500 meters from the Bell Tower at Hantang Inn—very convenient. We’d been before, so we didn’t revisit the Terracotta Army. The calligraphy district is worth it, as is the Muslim Quarter, though it’s very touristy. The area indicated on the Lonely Planet’s walking tour near the old fruit and vegetable market isn’t very interesting. To buy tea, you can go to the Northwest International Tea City, with dozens of shops. We chose one at random, tasted, and bought various teas. There’s everything from cheap to extremely expensive, but you can find reasonable prices even in seemingly luxurious shops. Along the street north of this area, there are large stores with tons of Chinese goods selling dishes, wedding items, etc. We spent hours there. In the city center, there are only malls with more or less international brands.

- **Longmen Grottoes**: Visited as a round trip by high-speed train from Xian—1 hour 15 minutes to Longmen’s high-speed train station, and the site entrance is 15 minutes by taxi.

We didn’t go to Mount Hua Shan, but there’s a high-speed train station nearby, and there were people on the train who were clearly going there. So, you can probably do this excursion in a day from Xian as well.

Conclusion: We hope this report makes you want to go or helps you if you’re already planning to. If you have questions that you can’t find the answer to by searching properly online and we can answer, don’t hesitate.
10-Day Road Trip in Bulgaria
by Ideesdevoyag · 2025-09-07 · 4 replies
Hi everyone, In mid-July 2025, we were lucky enough to spend about ten days in Bulgaria. We did a 10-day road trip exploring this beautiful and underrated Balkan country! Since planning a trip isn’t always easy, we’re sharing our original itinerary (different from the "classic" loop offered by travel agencies) and our feedback on the various places we visited. With a few photos to illustrate each day, we hope to wow you 🙂 and, most importantly, inspire you to visit Bulgaria! Here’s our loop itinerary starting from Sofia (a varied program that allowed us to enjoy some summer swimming on the beaches of the Black Sea): Day 1 - The Rila Monastery, Bulgaria’s emblem Day 2 - The picturesque village of Koprivshtitsa, the Russian Church of Shipka, and the listed village of Bozhentsi



Day 3 - The small town of Tryavna and Sozopol, a little gem on the Bulgarian coast



Day 4 - Sinemorets and the wild Veleka beach, the stunning Silistar beach, and the small port of Ahtopol

MSC Iceland: Port Stop Questions
by Danielle74 · 2025-06-08 · 3 replies
Hi there, We’re joining an MSC Preziosa cruise in early July from Hamburg via Iceland. The MSC shore excursions are way overpriced, so we’d like to book through Get Your Guide or Tripadvisor. Even though we’re seasoned travelers, this is our first cruise, and we’re not sure about docking durations, arrival ports, disembarkation times, or how far excursion meeting points are from the ship... It’s a bit tricky to plan visits outside the cruise line’s options while making sure we’re back on board in time. Any advice? Thanks for your tips! Danielle
Looking for someone to do a French-language tour of Reykjavik in June
by Sorijojo · 2025-04-01 · 1 reply
Hi, I’m looking for a tour of Reykjavik with a local from the cruise port at MSC Terminal in June for 4 people—a full city tour with explanations in French. Thanks
My hands-on cycling experience in the Land of the Rising Sun
by Fanche69 · 2025-03-19 · 1 reply
Hi there, In 2022, I went to Japan where I planned to buy a bike (you need to know a trusted Japanese resident or similar, otherwise it's impossible, but you get a registration in return). There are many websites selling second-hand bikes, accessories, and parts at all price points that you can find online. I bought a suitable bike, the right size, for around 600 €, which allowed me to cover the 850 km I had planned. For transport, you absolutely need a soft bike bag, because you must dismantle it to board any train or bus! And even to move it around the station! For express trains in certain regions, you need to make a reservation for oversized luggage (check at the station), and in return, there will be a reserved space. Keep in mind that Japanese people travel with little luggage since they rarely go away for more than a week. So, if you don’t end up with a crowd of tourists... (watch out on tourist routes in Tokyo and Hiroshima). Avoid tourist areas during GOLDEN WEEK in April-May—trains and hotels are fully booked. Take the opportunity to escape to the countryside... For hotel bookings, Booking and Agoda are safe options—you can confidently choose the cheapest ones. In small towns, street life shuts down at sunset, so plan ahead for restaurants. Otherwise, there’s always the konbini! For ferries, there’s no problem, but you may have to pay in some cases. Otherwise, it’s all very pleasant: drivers are very respectful. Bear in mind that driving is on the left side of the road. I took a few trips around Tokyo and its suburbs without any issues, except for orientation. A GPS is essential because many people don’t speak much English or know exactly where they are in relation to your destination. But luckily, there’s the KOBAN—a neighborhood police box where an officer has a big book of maps, and their mission is to help you find your way if you know the address, the neighborhood name, the subway station, or even the name of a bar (!) Otherwise, I cycled on very small roads away from main routes, through small villages, and that’s where you really discover "deep" Japan. Japan is a mix of landscapes, often wilder than what we’re used to in Europe, but also signs of an aging population, with rural exodus and many abandoned houses in the mountainous countryside of SHIKOKU or NOTO. I explored or took rides from town to town, sometimes ahead of or behind my partner, who traveled by train or bus on her own. I met few Japanese cyclists (with very basic bikes) or non-Japanese ones, except for cyclists on the SHIMANAMI route with amazing bikes. No need for a heavy lock—you can find them there. There are also shops for second-hand parts. For safety, ideally, you should get a local SIM card. It’s good to know that in an emergency, your phone will work to call for help—dead zones are rare. I brought the bike back to Europe as checked luggage in a properly sized box with no special formalities, for a transport cost of around 150 €. I got the box from an international bike shop in Tokyo after some searching and resizing it (with a knife and packing tape).
Laos Itinerary Advice
by Bricole63 · 2025-02-25 · 16 replies
Hi there, I’m planning a trip to Laos in November 2025. I’m not really sure what to visit. I’ve heard there are local festivals around that time. Open to any suggestions for planning my trip. There’ll be 4 or 5 of us. Best,
MSC Preziosa Cruise: Your Thoughts on the Ship
by Di555 · 2025-02-08 · 2 replies
Hi, I'm looking into a cruise for May 2026. I'd love to hear your thoughts on the MSC Preziosa ship. Thanks, Diane
Family Road Trip: San Francisco - Portland - San Francisco
by Drekafluga · 2025-01-10 · 12 replies
Hi there,

We’re planning a family road trip (kids aged 10 and 15) over 23 days between San Francisco and Portland (Northern California and Oregon). It’ll be a loop. We want to take our time with hikes but also enjoy the cities to relax a bit (Portland / SF).

Here’s our itinerary—I’d love your thoughts on the places we’ve picked, suggestions for stops along the way, and whether this route is doable given the distances (especially Tahoe Lake to Crater Lake and Crater Lake to Portland):

Day 1: Arrive in San Francisco midday, head to Yosemite (3 nights). Day 1/2: Yosemite Valley / Glacier Point, etc. Day 3: Tioga Road with a stop at Mono Lake (1 night in Bridgeport). Day 4: Bodie in the morning, then drive to North Lake Tahoe (2 nights in North Lake Tahoe). Day 5: Lake Tahoe. Day 6: Long drive to Crater Lake via Burney Falls? (2 nights in Fort Klamath). Day 7: Crater Lake. Day 8: Drive to Portland via Bend (4 nights in Portland). Days 9–11: Portland + Columbia Gorge. Day 12: Portland to Newport via Highway 101: Cannon Beach/Tillamook (1 night in Newport). Day 13: Newport to Golden Beach via Florence/Oregon Dunes (1 night in Golden Beach). Day 14: Drive to Jedediah Smith Redwood State Park (3 nights near Crescent City). Days 15–16: Redwood National Park (Fern Canyon / Avenue of the Giants, etc.). Day 17: Drive along the coast via Eureka / Fort Bragg (1 night in Willits). Day 18: Drive to San Francisco via Napa Valley (5 nights in SF). Days 19–22: San Francisco. Day 23: Departure.

Everything’s booked but still flexible, so I can adjust if needed.

Thanks in advance!
16-Day Itinerary from Victoria Falls to Johannesburg
by Edb · 2024-12-11 · 6 replies
Hi everyone,

I’m planning a trip to South Africa / Zimbabwe this summer—4x4 with camping gear... After some reading, I’ve put together this first draft of an itinerary:

D0 Johannesburg - arrive around 11 AM + visit Soweto? D1 Vic Falls - arrive around noon D2 Vic Falls D3 4x4 familiarization + Hwange NP D4 Hwange NP D5 Hwange NP D6 Bulawayo D7 Bulawayo / Matobo NP D8 Mapungubwe D9 Mapungubwe D10 Waterberg D11 Waterval Boven D12 Golden Gate Highlands NP D13 Sentinel Peak D14 Tugela Falls or another hike D15 Additional hike to be determined D16 Return to Johannesburg + drop off 4x4 - flight at 5 PM

Any thoughts on this itinerary? Ideas for improving it?

One alternative would be to visit Gonarezhou Park, which really appeals to me... But that would take more time and change the rest of the route: probably going back through Kruger. And I’m not sure I’d have enough time for the Drakensberg.

I still have other questions... But I’d rather finalize the general itinerary first to sort out the 4x4 rental...

Big thanks to the travel community 😉
Our trip recap: searching for primates in Uganda
by SimonL · 2024-10-14 · 23 replies
Hi everyone,

As I mentioned a few days ago in the comments on ArXplorateur’s post (
https://voyageforum.com/forum/deux-semaines-en-ouganda-en-solo-en-transports-d10553168/) —which was the first to reopen the forum’s Africa section—I wanted to share our feedback on our three weeks in Uganda. We recently traveled between late August and mid-September with the Mpolampola agency, which many of you know, run by Paul. I’m editing a one-hour film about this trip, which I’ll be uploading soon to our travel-focused YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@lolodetoul54

It’s almost finished and ready to be uploaded.

We planned an ambitious itinerary (maybe *too* ambitious?).

Here’s the breakdown of our packed schedule:

D0 Saturday 24/08: Departure from Paris to Uganda via Kigali with Rwandair D1 Sunday 25/08: Arrival in Entebbe Sunday morning. Departure for Lake Mburo National Park. Night at Rwakobo Lodge D2 Monday 26/08: Lake Mburo National Park. Walking safari and boat tour of the lake. Night at Rwakobo Lodge D3 Tuesday 27/08: Departure for Lake Bunyonyi. Night at Birdnest Overseas D4 Wednesday 28/08: Boat and walking tour of the lake, then drive to Lake Mutanda Lodge D5 Thursday 29/08: Hike to see the golden monkeys, then departure for Nkuringo Bwindi Gorilla Lodge D6 Friday 30/08: Hike to see the gorillas. Night again at Nkuringo Bwindi Gorilla Lodge D7 Saturday 31/08: Drive to Queen Elizabeth National Park. Night at Twin Lakes Safari Lodge D8 Sunday 01/09: Vehicle safari and boat tour on the Kazinga Channel. Night at Twin Lakes Safari Lodge D9 Monday 02/09: Drive to Kibale Forest and walk around Crater Lake. Night at Isunga Lodge D10 Tuesday 03/09: Chimpanzee trek in Kibale Forest and walk in Bigodi Swamp. Night at Isunga Lodge D11 Wednesday 04/09: On the road to Murchison Falls National Park. Walking tour with rhinos at Ziwa Rhino Sanctuary. Night at Murchison River Lodge D12 Thursday 05/09: Vehicle safari in Murchison Falls National Park and boat ride to the falls. Night at Murchison River Lodge D13 Friday 06/09: Drive to Chobe Lodge by the Nile D14 Saturday 07/09: Long road trip to Kidepo Valley National Park. Night at Adere Lodge D15 & D16: Safari in Kidepo Valley National Park. Nights at Adere Lodge D17 Tuesday 10/09: Very long drive to Sipi Falls (Mount Elgon). Night at Lacam Lodge D18 Wednesday 11/09: Visit to the falls, then drive to Jinja (source of the Nile). Night at Haven Lodge D19 Thursday 12/09: Drive to Kampala. Night at Latitude 0. D20 Friday 13/09: Discovering shoebills in Mabamba Swamp. Evening flight back to France via Kigali, Rwanda.

That’s the teaser done! I’ll be back with more details soon. Looking forward to sharing! Loïc
Hôtels pas chers à San Francisco English translation pending
by Azteca1951 · 2020-06-27 · 16 replies
Bonjour

Connaissez-vous des hôtels bons et pas chers, de préférence à San Francisco avec SDB privée et pas loin du centre ? Peut-êtreô difficile mais qui ne tente rien n'a rien...

Merci

Azteca
Avis sur un voyage de deux semaines au Japon English translation pending
by JB1998 · 2020-03-17 · 9 replies
Bonjour à tous ! Je suis nouveau sur ce forum J’aimerais avoir votre avis sur mon itinéraire de voyage pour 2 semaines en début d’avril 2021 C’est mon premier voyage au Japon

Jour 0 Arrivée à Tokyo

Jour 1 Harajuku(Takeshita dori + yoyogi park +meiji-jingu) Omotesando (Tokyu plaza + omotesando hills + oriental bazaar) Cat street Shibuya (crossing + Hachiko + Starbucks + shibuya scramble square + center gai + nintendo store)

Jour 2 Asakusa(Kaminarimon + tourist center + Nakamise street + Sensoji + Shin nakamise + Don Quijote) Ueno(Parc ueno + Ameyoko street) Tokyo Skytree Retour à Asakusa de nuit

Jour 3 Petit déjeuner Roppongi (musée mori + hills observatory + tokyo tower(one piece) + Temple zozoji) Shinjuku(gyoen + Hanazono Shrine + Chidorigafuchi + Southern terrace + Tokyo Metropolitan Government Buildings + Shinjuku view + Kabukichō + Golden Gai)

Jour 4 Odaiba (Seaside Park + Statue of Liberty + Fuji Television Building + Gundam Statue + DiverCity + teamLab Borderless + VenusFort + Oedo Onsen Monogatari)

Jour 5 Hamarikyu Imperial palace Gardens Ginza(shopping) Akihabara (Kanda myojin + kurikoan + don quijote + Game Center Souper ginza itsuki

Jour 6 Yanaka( Nezu Shrine + Yanaka cemetery + Sakura-dori + Tennoji + Yanaka Ginza Départ pour kyoto pour Kyoto

Jour 7 Kinkaku-ji Ryoan-ji marché de Nishiki galerie marchande Teramachi Château de Nijo Yasaka jinja quartier de Gion

Jour 8 Ginkaku-ji chemin de la philosophie Nanzen-ji Parc de Maruyama Kodai-ji.

Jour 9 Fushimi Inari Taisha Tofuku-ji Sanjusangendo Temple Kiyomizu-Dera chion in Shoren in Heian jingu

Jour 10 pont Togetsukyo Bamboo groove Tenryu-ji Monkey park Villa Okochi Sanso Jojakko-ji Gio-ji Daikaku-ji

Jour 11 Départ pour Nara Nara park Nobori-oji Street. Isui-en Garden Todai-ji Temple Nigatsu-do Hall. Kasuga-Taisha Shrine Kofuku-ji Temple Naramachi Départ pour Osaka

Jour 12 Osaka castle Harukas 300 Observastion Deck Shitenno ji + Tennôji Park(Keitakuen Garden and the Chausuyama ko-fun) Shinsekai and Tsutenkaku Tower Aquarium kaiyukan Hozenji Temple and Hozenji Yokocho Dotonbori Canal and Cruise Namba at night

Jour 13 Départ pour Bruxelles

Merci d’avance pour vos conseils !

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