Bonjour à tous,
Avec une amie (27 &29ans), nous partons 16 jours à deux aux États-Unis pour réaliser un RoadTrip Los Angeles/Las Vegas/San Francisco (+ tous les lieux/parc sur la route) du vendredi 20 septembre 2019 au samedi 05 octobre 2019. Notre avion atterrira à L.A. et nous décollerons San Francisco.
Pour le moment, seul nos billets d'avion sont réservés et achetés.
Nous avons commencé un plan de voyage et aimerions vous le partager pour savoir si cela était faisable dans le temps impartit. Évidemment, comme tout le monde, nous voudrions voir le plus de choses possibles et nous nous attendons à ce que ce voyage ne soit pas de tout repos ! :)
Jour 1 : 15h00 : Arrivée à Los Angeles. Récupération des valises, de la voiture de location et direction Santa Monica ou alentours pour nous installer à notre hôtel. Visite des alentours.
Jour 2 : Visite de Venice et de Santa Barbara (Beverly Hills si le temps ?).
Jour 3 : Visite de Hollywood (Bld, Theatre, OUE Skyspace, Signe Hollywood, Observatoire, ...)
Jour 4 : Visite WarnerBros Studio en début de matinée puis direction Malibu vers 12h, visiter (2H-3H) et ensuite direction Santa Barbara où nous passerions la nuit. Cela nous permettra d'avoir un peu roulé le long de la côte des USA.
Jour 5 : Départ vers 8h30 pour Palm Springs et arrivée vers 11h30 (Visite + Téléphérique). 15H Départ vers Kingmann (ou alentours) où nous passerions la nuit.
Jour 6 : Route 66 vers Grand Canyon. Visite Grand Canyon. Puis repise de la route pour arriver au Monument Valley en soirée où nous passerions la nuit.
Jour 7 : Monument Valley, Forrest Gump Point, Valey of Gods. Arrivée à Page pour passer la nuit.
Jour 8 : Antelope Canyon, Lake Powel et Horseshoe Bend. Toujours à Page pour passer la nuit.
Jour 9 : Départ de Page pour la Valley of Fire et arrivée à Las Vegas fin d’après-midi.
Jour 10 : Las Vegas
Jour 11 : Death Valey - BadWater. Arrivée à LonePile pour passer la nuit.
Jour 12 : Départ pour Yosemite par la Tioga Road. Arrivée fin d’après-midi au Half-Dome Village.
Jour 13 : Yosemite : Randonnée et "escalade" du Half Dome (Si nous avons le permis).
Jour 14 : Départ matinée pour SF en passant par Tuolumne Gros (Sequoia Géant) et la Silicon Valey.
Jour 15 : San Francisco
Jour 16 : Visite Alcatraz + SF. Départ pour l'aéroport à 14h00.
Pour plus de facilité dans nos déplacements. Nous allons louer une voiture, une Ford Mustang Cabriolet, du premier au dernier jour du séjours (Prise et remise à l'aéroport).
Pour le moment, le plus gros questionnement est le jour 6 & 7 où nous ne savons pas trop s’il est mieux de rester loger près du grand Canyon et de partir pour Monument Valley le lendemain matin. Ou s’il vaut mieux partir fin d’après-midi du GC pour arriver à Monument Valley en soirée et en profiter le lendemain matin.
Pensez-vous qu'il s'agisse d'un itinéraire réalisable et avantageux pour en voir le plus ?
Merci à vous, 🙂
Jérémy
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Hello tous.
En cette période de disette de voyage , je vais me replonger dans notre voyage (road trip ..avec beaucoup de road.. (route).. Surement un avec le plus de miles.. il est vrai que le Texas c’est vaste.. et la Louisiane aussi..
Donc vous l’aurez compris c’est un voyage à travers le Texas (avec des villes comme Dallas bien sur !, San Antonio (la petite Venise), Austin (la capitale), un super parc (coup de cœur) , la Louisiane avec la nouvelle Orléans bien sûr, le pays cajun, une petite incursion aussi dans le Mississipi et bâton rouge et Lafayette.
Bon ce road trip est « un dernière minute »..Décidé en novembre pour novembre… A peine rentré d’Alaska.. je n’avais qu’une seule envie. Repartir… Alain moins… il me disait on a déjà un gros truc prévu en février. Faut pas abuser.. Je m’étais résignée.. et voilà qu’air France fait des promos en miles pour Los Angeles.. Je finis par le convaincre même s’il me dit qu’on connait déjà ce coin. Pas grave toujours tellement de chose à découvrir ! Mais voilà ces prix miles promos…ben en fait faut cliquer direct parce que le lendemain y’a plus rien ..ou plus rien qui va.. ou alors on part et ne revient pas. Ou le contraire ! Mais maintenant j’ai la tête à partir ! Un vieux rêves (bon pas si vieux).. Je veux aller en Louisiane.. Pas de vol direct pour « N O (nouvelle Orléans).. on fera du coup Houston Houston.. Et me voilà entrain d’organiser tout cela… Vols ok.. Voiture ok. (hertz) et les hôtels…qu’il faut organiser dans ces trois semaines.. Parce que pour moi le grand plaisir d’un road trip c’est de tout organiser. Surtout pas de voyage organisé.. C’est l’inverse d’une croisière pour nous. Et même si je m’efforce de trouver des hôtels « correct » dans ces trips on ne recherche pas le luxe.. Bon pas le bui bui non plus. Aller je vous emmène ?
En cette période de disette de voyage , je vais me replonger dans notre voyage (road trip ..avec beaucoup de road.. (route).. Surement un avec le plus de miles.. il est vrai que le Texas c’est vaste.. et la Louisiane aussi..
Donc vous l’aurez compris c’est un voyage à travers le Texas (avec des villes comme Dallas bien sur !, San Antonio (la petite Venise), Austin (la capitale), un super parc (coup de cœur) , la Louisiane avec la nouvelle Orléans bien sûr, le pays cajun, une petite incursion aussi dans le Mississipi et bâton rouge et Lafayette.
Bon ce road trip est « un dernière minute »..Décidé en novembre pour novembre… A peine rentré d’Alaska.. je n’avais qu’une seule envie. Repartir… Alain moins… il me disait on a déjà un gros truc prévu en février. Faut pas abuser.. Je m’étais résignée.. et voilà qu’air France fait des promos en miles pour Los Angeles.. Je finis par le convaincre même s’il me dit qu’on connait déjà ce coin. Pas grave toujours tellement de chose à découvrir ! Mais voilà ces prix miles promos…ben en fait faut cliquer direct parce que le lendemain y’a plus rien ..ou plus rien qui va.. ou alors on part et ne revient pas. Ou le contraire ! Mais maintenant j’ai la tête à partir ! Un vieux rêves (bon pas si vieux).. Je veux aller en Louisiane.. Pas de vol direct pour « N O (nouvelle Orléans).. on fera du coup Houston Houston.. Et me voilà entrain d’organiser tout cela… Vols ok.. Voiture ok. (hertz) et les hôtels…qu’il faut organiser dans ces trois semaines.. Parce que pour moi le grand plaisir d’un road trip c’est de tout organiser. Surtout pas de voyage organisé.. C’est l’inverse d’une croisière pour nous. Et même si je m’efforce de trouver des hôtels « correct » dans ces trips on ne recherche pas le luxe.. Bon pas le bui bui non plus. Aller je vous emmène ?
Hi everyone!
After years of hoping, waiting, planning, then changing, saving, and searching for the best possible route... we're FINALLY off this summer for a 5-week road trip in the West.
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello, here’s a totally subjective recap of our 15-day road trip between Colorado and New Mexico, from late September to mid-October.
Our main interests are culture, museums, and landscapes—no hiking or trails for us. Personally, I’m pretty contemplative, and luckily, there’s always something to see out there! We’re pretty used to the US; we’ve been going there often for a long time (let’s just say we’re not exactly young anymore).
Budget: Even though we don’t set a strict budget beforehand, we try to keep costs as low as possible. This time, we managed to spend around 4000 € for two, all included. To do this: avoid expensive accommodations, staying between 60 and 120 € per night with an average of 90 €/night, mixing Airbnb and motels. And skip the “real” restaurants, which are pretty pricey in the US: sandwiches for lunch, takeout or cooking in the Airbnb in the evening. We shop at Sprouts or Whole Foods—organic-style chains that are pricier than Walmart but better. In the evenings, Sprouts has discounts on items that didn’t sell during the day. Also, avoid toll roads, paid parking, and overly expensive attractions or sites. The dispensary budget is separate…
Route: Denver/Colorado Springs/Alamosa/Raton/Santa Fe/Cuba/Cortez/Grand Junction/Glenwood Springs/Denver This wasn’t too planned in advance—we booked a few nights upon arrival and went with the flow. Flight from CDG to Denver with AF/Delta, car rental at Dollar for a standard SUV. The guy at the Dollar counter upsold me on extra insurance for flat tires (and since I knew we’d be off-roading, I took it). Without telling me, he upgraded me to a Jeep Sahara 4X4 Hybrid. Nice.
Listening to the news upon arrival, the anchor announced, “It’s officially fall now.” We hadn’t really thought about that before leaving, but yeah—it’s the time when the trees turn fluorescent yellow and red. Amazing.
Colorado Springs: Garden of the Gods is a free park with paved trails winding through red/orange rock formations. Magical at sunrise—groups of deer roam around, along with birds and rabbits. It’s small but wow! Didn’t try the Manitou Incline in Manitou Springs, a staircase with thousands of steps going straight up the mountain. Impressive from the bottom, but the parking is paid, which is a downside for those willing to tackle it. The Cog Railway goes up to the summit of Pikes Peak—around $100 when we were there. No thanks. And of course, the parking is paid too. For fans, Maggie’s Farm dispensary is great.
On Route 24, Eleven Mile Canyon Recreation Area is fly-fishing paradise—just like in the movie *A River Runs Through It*. Entry is $11, and a trail follows the river at the bottom of the canyon to the dam. Dozens of people in waders are in the water, casting their lines over and over. You can see the salmon in the clear water, and we had a picnic in the sun, imagining Brad Pitt catching a fish.
Buena Vista: A cute little tourist town with an Outdoor Fair that day—some pretty impressive vehicles for sale, set up for mountain living (like Juniper outfitting a RAM).
Alamosa: The closest town to Great Sand Dunes National Park, crossed by the Rio Grande (and let’s be real—it’s more of a stream than a river!). Park access was free because it was National Park Day. A park with massive dunes—climbing them is pretty exhausting, with lots of wind and sinking sand. Glad we didn’t do it in summer; I can’t imagine how tough it’d be in the heat. It’s a bit deceptive: it looks easy to get to the top of a dune, but it’s really not. The campsites were nice, and it was busy that weekend. We passed the “Point of No Return,” a sandy trail winding through the hills and connecting to Route 559 from above. Didn’t go all the way, but it’s possible the entrance is free from that side. However, you need a 4X4 with good ground clearance. After 1 or 2 km on the trail, you’re alone between the dunes and hills—hardly anyone around. But tricky to turn around or pass other vehicles; the trail isn’t wide. We crossed paths with a Hanomag (registered in the Netherlands—impressive!) coming down without stopping, or risking getting stuck.
On the way out, we took the small Route 403, which quickly turns into a trail crossing the mountain. Entire sections of forest were turning fluorescent yellow with patches of green and red—an incredible sight.
Raton: A small town that probably peaked in the late 19th century and has been in slow decline ever since. The Raton Pass Motor Inn is the kind of place that makes the US legendary—entirely 50s and 60s decor, really well done. I had the Betty Page room—too cool. Felt like we were on Route 66. Even better.
Santa Fe: A small city with no high-rises—almost all low-rise buildings, many in adobe, blending perfectly into the landscape. The old downtown is touristy but nice, with its plaza and church. There’s a really cool vibe—we loved it. For drinks, the bar at the top of La Fonda Hotel was packed for sunset, with a diverse crowd. Not overpriced for the location. SITE Santa Fe is a contemporary art space near the train station. It’s free, and the temporary exhibit was really good—high quality. Museum Hill is, as the name suggests, where several museums are located. We visited the Museum of Indian Art and Culture—great if you’re into “First Nations” history. Saw The Dandy Warhols at The Bridge—an outdoor venue, one of the last concerts of the season before winter makes it too cold. Oddly, there was no bag check, just an ID required (even though it was obvious we were over 21!). Tickets were reasonable, around $30 (concerts in the US can be crazy expensive). The band was good, with fewer than 300 people in front. A sign at the bar warned: Don’t forget you’re at 1,500 meters—alcohol hits harder up here!
Albuquerque: A sprawling city with an old historic center that feels a bit like Disneyland—too perfect for my taste. The real highlight is the Sandia Peak Tramway, which goes up to the old ski resort above the city. Tickets are around $35, and it’s worth it—the ride over the canyons is pretty wild. The ski resort is a bit abandoned; apparently, like elsewhere, there’s no snow anymore. I asked several people about the lack of snow, and the answer was always the same: “It’s cyclical.” Okay then. We arrived for the start of the International Balloon Fiesta (one of the world’s largest hot-air balloon gatherings), hoping to see hundreds of balloons in the sky. Nope—windy today, so no one took off. Bummer.
Las Vegas: New Mexico has its own Las Vegas, but it’s nothing like the other one—a sleepy little town with a perfectly preserved 19th-century Historic Plaza Hotel, brick buildings, and vintage streetlights. Everything is so well-preserved it’s often used as a filming location. NM attracts a lot of productions thanks to tax incentives and its Western landscapes—and it’s cheaper than California! That day, a huge Texas flag was flying in the wind: they were filming the second season of *Ransom Canyon* for Netflix in the town center. If we’d been dressed more “Western,” we could’ve been extras.
Jemez Springs: Its Jemez Hot Springs is super cute—several thermal pools at different temperatures, a New Age vibe. The pools are surrounded by big rocks, and you’re asked to speak softly. A place where you could spend hours. $50 for two hours for two.
Los Alamos: A town made legendary by the bomb, the movie, etc. Heads up: It’s still a research center, and to cross part of the town, you need to show ID. No stopping or taking photos allowed. Other than the Oppenheimer House (currently closed—only the neighboring house is open to visitors), there’s not much to see. There’s a replica of the camp entrance, but it’s been turned into restrooms.
Georgia O’Keeffe Trail (American painter, 1887–1986): Her museum in Santa Fe is pretty good, even if they don’t have tons of works. Entry is $20. Her house in Abiquiu is open for visits, but it’s way overpriced at $65. So we skipped it. You can get an idea of it by stopping at the Welcome Center on Route 84. Further down the same road, Ghost Ranch is worth a visit—beautiful setting, free to enter, with trails to explore and a great atmosphere.
Chaco Culture National Historical Park: A pretty isolated park—25 km of trails to get there, with only a small section paved. The road is decent except for the last few kilometers, which have potholes. I can’t imagine it being accessible after rain, though that doesn’t happen often! This park, in the middle of a desert plain with a few canyons, is one of the rare places where you can find multi-story structures from pre-Columbian civilizations—so, before the “current” tribes. But cruel disappointment: it’s been shut down for a few days. We met a Native ranger—tall, with long hair—who explained that even though he wasn’t being paid, he was still guarding the park and had closed all access to the sites. Darn. Turned around and headed back down the trail.
Same story in the next town, Aztec (a funny name, right?): Aztec Ruins National Monument was closed too.
We passed Ship Rock, the Navajo’s sacred mountain—really impressive. Couldn’t find a trail to get closer, but it’s better from a distance anyway! The town of Shiprock itself is pretty depressing—poor living conditions for some Natives, with rundown mobile homes and piles of junk cars.
Stopped in Cortez to visit Mesa Verde National Park. Ate at Denny’s—hadn’t been there in ages (though it’s the kind of place I should feel at home in!). The customers all looked like they’d stepped out of *The Addams Family*—a little creepy. Or funny, depending on your perspective. For Mesa Verde, after discussing it on this forum with the honorable member Caussat (who didn’t find it that amazing), we were on the fence. Problem solved: it was closed too. Back on the road.
Durango: Really nice with its Main Ave and its shops, cafés—touristy but with local life. Famous for its tourist train to Silverton, but we didn’t do it—way too expensive. Choice between a steam locomotive or diesel (which belches black, stinky smoke—yuck). The diesel should be replaced with electric as soon as they get the funds.
Million Dollar Highway: The road winds through the mountains, and every turn (and there are a lot) is breathtaking—unbelievable landscapes with fluorescent yellow, green, and snow-capped mountains. Just wow.
Silverton: A Western town nestled between two mountains, preserved in its original state despite the tourists arriving by train. Around it, abandoned mines and old wooden ties—must’ve been tough for the 19th-century miners.
Grand Junction: The city is surrounded by giant mesas—pretty impressive. The old downtown is *too* clean—almost sterile.
Colorado National Monument: Just outside the city, a winding road climbs between stunning canyons, with sweeping views of the valley. Entry was free that day due to the shutdown.
Route 330, which we took to get back to the highway, passes through a place called “Cowboy Country”—and it’s true. We saw guys in Stetsons with huge pickups, the road turned into a trail with cows wandering on it, and we had to honk to get them to move. The trail to I-70 was full of potholes—the 4X4 came in handy. Had a picnic by Vega Reservoir: the booth at the entrance was empty, but people left cash in envelopes for camping fees. Anyone passing by could’ve taken it, but it’s an example of US trust and honesty!
Glenwood Springs: A small town famous for its hot springs pool—they claim it’s the largest in the world. I don’t know about that, but it has a great look. Unfortunately, it was closed for maintenance those days! Blew our budget by staying at the Hotel Colorado, a huge 1893 building with a real atmosphere in its grand lobby and fake fireplaces. Fire pits in front of wooden chairs in the garden with mountain views—just really great.
Aspen: The billionaires’ ski resort, but surprisingly, parking was free for 2 hours. Rare to see a place for the super-rich that doesn’t scream “not for you” (like Palm Beach, for example). A former mining town completely redone, every shop occupied by a luxury brand. There’s even a thrift shop run by sweet retirees—funny as hell. Two ski lifts to start directly with your skis, but we didn’t see the price—they were still closed. Lots of houses that aren’t huge but are cute, though looking at real estate prices made us think, “Is there an extra zero on that listing?” A 6-bedroom villa for $52 million? Wow. The mountains around are gorgeous—no wonder it became what it is.
Another fancy resort nearby: Vail, more modern in its construction. The restaurants opted for a “Schwarzwald” decor—kind of odd.
Denver: Nothing really stood out for us in this city, except the Design Museum—the Kirkland, where a local painter collected furniture and supplies from Arts and Crafts to Postmodern. Just really great. Entry is included with a visit to the Denver Art Museum, which has diverse collections—from Impressionism (they have a Manet, a Van Gogh, a Cézanne, several Sisleys) to photography. The best part for me was the “Ancient Americas” totems—huge, impressive wooden sculptures, painted, the kind you’re more used to seeing in Polynesia or Easter Island. Personally, I didn’t know Natives made them too. That’s what museums are for!
Back at the airport, where I had to tag my own luggage (you have to do everything yourself with these US airlines). The tag said SLC/CDG! But we were supposed to connect through JFK. Turns out, they’d put us on a DEN/SLC/CDG flight without telling us. In the end, we gained 30 minutes on our original arrival time in Paris!
There you go—hope this inspires other travelers! !
Our main interests are culture, museums, and landscapes—no hiking or trails for us. Personally, I’m pretty contemplative, and luckily, there’s always something to see out there! We’re pretty used to the US; we’ve been going there often for a long time (let’s just say we’re not exactly young anymore).
Budget: Even though we don’t set a strict budget beforehand, we try to keep costs as low as possible. This time, we managed to spend around 4000 € for two, all included. To do this: avoid expensive accommodations, staying between 60 and 120 € per night with an average of 90 €/night, mixing Airbnb and motels. And skip the “real” restaurants, which are pretty pricey in the US: sandwiches for lunch, takeout or cooking in the Airbnb in the evening. We shop at Sprouts or Whole Foods—organic-style chains that are pricier than Walmart but better. In the evenings, Sprouts has discounts on items that didn’t sell during the day. Also, avoid toll roads, paid parking, and overly expensive attractions or sites. The dispensary budget is separate…
Route: Denver/Colorado Springs/Alamosa/Raton/Santa Fe/Cuba/Cortez/Grand Junction/Glenwood Springs/Denver This wasn’t too planned in advance—we booked a few nights upon arrival and went with the flow. Flight from CDG to Denver with AF/Delta, car rental at Dollar for a standard SUV. The guy at the Dollar counter upsold me on extra insurance for flat tires (and since I knew we’d be off-roading, I took it). Without telling me, he upgraded me to a Jeep Sahara 4X4 Hybrid. Nice.
Listening to the news upon arrival, the anchor announced, “It’s officially fall now.” We hadn’t really thought about that before leaving, but yeah—it’s the time when the trees turn fluorescent yellow and red. Amazing.
Colorado Springs: Garden of the Gods is a free park with paved trails winding through red/orange rock formations. Magical at sunrise—groups of deer roam around, along with birds and rabbits. It’s small but wow! Didn’t try the Manitou Incline in Manitou Springs, a staircase with thousands of steps going straight up the mountain. Impressive from the bottom, but the parking is paid, which is a downside for those willing to tackle it. The Cog Railway goes up to the summit of Pikes Peak—around $100 when we were there. No thanks. And of course, the parking is paid too. For fans, Maggie’s Farm dispensary is great.
On Route 24, Eleven Mile Canyon Recreation Area is fly-fishing paradise—just like in the movie *A River Runs Through It*. Entry is $11, and a trail follows the river at the bottom of the canyon to the dam. Dozens of people in waders are in the water, casting their lines over and over. You can see the salmon in the clear water, and we had a picnic in the sun, imagining Brad Pitt catching a fish.
Buena Vista: A cute little tourist town with an Outdoor Fair that day—some pretty impressive vehicles for sale, set up for mountain living (like Juniper outfitting a RAM).
Alamosa: The closest town to Great Sand Dunes National Park, crossed by the Rio Grande (and let’s be real—it’s more of a stream than a river!). Park access was free because it was National Park Day. A park with massive dunes—climbing them is pretty exhausting, with lots of wind and sinking sand. Glad we didn’t do it in summer; I can’t imagine how tough it’d be in the heat. It’s a bit deceptive: it looks easy to get to the top of a dune, but it’s really not. The campsites were nice, and it was busy that weekend. We passed the “Point of No Return,” a sandy trail winding through the hills and connecting to Route 559 from above. Didn’t go all the way, but it’s possible the entrance is free from that side. However, you need a 4X4 with good ground clearance. After 1 or 2 km on the trail, you’re alone between the dunes and hills—hardly anyone around. But tricky to turn around or pass other vehicles; the trail isn’t wide. We crossed paths with a Hanomag (registered in the Netherlands—impressive!) coming down without stopping, or risking getting stuck.
On the way out, we took the small Route 403, which quickly turns into a trail crossing the mountain. Entire sections of forest were turning fluorescent yellow with patches of green and red—an incredible sight.
Raton: A small town that probably peaked in the late 19th century and has been in slow decline ever since. The Raton Pass Motor Inn is the kind of place that makes the US legendary—entirely 50s and 60s decor, really well done. I had the Betty Page room—too cool. Felt like we were on Route 66. Even better.
Santa Fe: A small city with no high-rises—almost all low-rise buildings, many in adobe, blending perfectly into the landscape. The old downtown is touristy but nice, with its plaza and church. There’s a really cool vibe—we loved it. For drinks, the bar at the top of La Fonda Hotel was packed for sunset, with a diverse crowd. Not overpriced for the location. SITE Santa Fe is a contemporary art space near the train station. It’s free, and the temporary exhibit was really good—high quality. Museum Hill is, as the name suggests, where several museums are located. We visited the Museum of Indian Art and Culture—great if you’re into “First Nations” history. Saw The Dandy Warhols at The Bridge—an outdoor venue, one of the last concerts of the season before winter makes it too cold. Oddly, there was no bag check, just an ID required (even though it was obvious we were over 21!). Tickets were reasonable, around $30 (concerts in the US can be crazy expensive). The band was good, with fewer than 300 people in front. A sign at the bar warned: Don’t forget you’re at 1,500 meters—alcohol hits harder up here!
Albuquerque: A sprawling city with an old historic center that feels a bit like Disneyland—too perfect for my taste. The real highlight is the Sandia Peak Tramway, which goes up to the old ski resort above the city. Tickets are around $35, and it’s worth it—the ride over the canyons is pretty wild. The ski resort is a bit abandoned; apparently, like elsewhere, there’s no snow anymore. I asked several people about the lack of snow, and the answer was always the same: “It’s cyclical.” Okay then. We arrived for the start of the International Balloon Fiesta (one of the world’s largest hot-air balloon gatherings), hoping to see hundreds of balloons in the sky. Nope—windy today, so no one took off. Bummer.
Las Vegas: New Mexico has its own Las Vegas, but it’s nothing like the other one—a sleepy little town with a perfectly preserved 19th-century Historic Plaza Hotel, brick buildings, and vintage streetlights. Everything is so well-preserved it’s often used as a filming location. NM attracts a lot of productions thanks to tax incentives and its Western landscapes—and it’s cheaper than California! That day, a huge Texas flag was flying in the wind: they were filming the second season of *Ransom Canyon* for Netflix in the town center. If we’d been dressed more “Western,” we could’ve been extras.
Jemez Springs: Its Jemez Hot Springs is super cute—several thermal pools at different temperatures, a New Age vibe. The pools are surrounded by big rocks, and you’re asked to speak softly. A place where you could spend hours. $50 for two hours for two.
Los Alamos: A town made legendary by the bomb, the movie, etc. Heads up: It’s still a research center, and to cross part of the town, you need to show ID. No stopping or taking photos allowed. Other than the Oppenheimer House (currently closed—only the neighboring house is open to visitors), there’s not much to see. There’s a replica of the camp entrance, but it’s been turned into restrooms.
Georgia O’Keeffe Trail (American painter, 1887–1986): Her museum in Santa Fe is pretty good, even if they don’t have tons of works. Entry is $20. Her house in Abiquiu is open for visits, but it’s way overpriced at $65. So we skipped it. You can get an idea of it by stopping at the Welcome Center on Route 84. Further down the same road, Ghost Ranch is worth a visit—beautiful setting, free to enter, with trails to explore and a great atmosphere.
Chaco Culture National Historical Park: A pretty isolated park—25 km of trails to get there, with only a small section paved. The road is decent except for the last few kilometers, which have potholes. I can’t imagine it being accessible after rain, though that doesn’t happen often! This park, in the middle of a desert plain with a few canyons, is one of the rare places where you can find multi-story structures from pre-Columbian civilizations—so, before the “current” tribes. But cruel disappointment: it’s been shut down for a few days. We met a Native ranger—tall, with long hair—who explained that even though he wasn’t being paid, he was still guarding the park and had closed all access to the sites. Darn. Turned around and headed back down the trail.
Same story in the next town, Aztec (a funny name, right?): Aztec Ruins National Monument was closed too.
We passed Ship Rock, the Navajo’s sacred mountain—really impressive. Couldn’t find a trail to get closer, but it’s better from a distance anyway! The town of Shiprock itself is pretty depressing—poor living conditions for some Natives, with rundown mobile homes and piles of junk cars.
Stopped in Cortez to visit Mesa Verde National Park. Ate at Denny’s—hadn’t been there in ages (though it’s the kind of place I should feel at home in!). The customers all looked like they’d stepped out of *The Addams Family*—a little creepy. Or funny, depending on your perspective. For Mesa Verde, after discussing it on this forum with the honorable member Caussat (who didn’t find it that amazing), we were on the fence. Problem solved: it was closed too. Back on the road.
Durango: Really nice with its Main Ave and its shops, cafés—touristy but with local life. Famous for its tourist train to Silverton, but we didn’t do it—way too expensive. Choice between a steam locomotive or diesel (which belches black, stinky smoke—yuck). The diesel should be replaced with electric as soon as they get the funds.
Million Dollar Highway: The road winds through the mountains, and every turn (and there are a lot) is breathtaking—unbelievable landscapes with fluorescent yellow, green, and snow-capped mountains. Just wow.
Silverton: A Western town nestled between two mountains, preserved in its original state despite the tourists arriving by train. Around it, abandoned mines and old wooden ties—must’ve been tough for the 19th-century miners.
Grand Junction: The city is surrounded by giant mesas—pretty impressive. The old downtown is *too* clean—almost sterile.
Colorado National Monument: Just outside the city, a winding road climbs between stunning canyons, with sweeping views of the valley. Entry was free that day due to the shutdown.
Route 330, which we took to get back to the highway, passes through a place called “Cowboy Country”—and it’s true. We saw guys in Stetsons with huge pickups, the road turned into a trail with cows wandering on it, and we had to honk to get them to move. The trail to I-70 was full of potholes—the 4X4 came in handy. Had a picnic by Vega Reservoir: the booth at the entrance was empty, but people left cash in envelopes for camping fees. Anyone passing by could’ve taken it, but it’s an example of US trust and honesty!
Glenwood Springs: A small town famous for its hot springs pool—they claim it’s the largest in the world. I don’t know about that, but it has a great look. Unfortunately, it was closed for maintenance those days! Blew our budget by staying at the Hotel Colorado, a huge 1893 building with a real atmosphere in its grand lobby and fake fireplaces. Fire pits in front of wooden chairs in the garden with mountain views—just really great.
Aspen: The billionaires’ ski resort, but surprisingly, parking was free for 2 hours. Rare to see a place for the super-rich that doesn’t scream “not for you” (like Palm Beach, for example). A former mining town completely redone, every shop occupied by a luxury brand. There’s even a thrift shop run by sweet retirees—funny as hell. Two ski lifts to start directly with your skis, but we didn’t see the price—they were still closed. Lots of houses that aren’t huge but are cute, though looking at real estate prices made us think, “Is there an extra zero on that listing?” A 6-bedroom villa for $52 million? Wow. The mountains around are gorgeous—no wonder it became what it is.
Another fancy resort nearby: Vail, more modern in its construction. The restaurants opted for a “Schwarzwald” decor—kind of odd.
Denver: Nothing really stood out for us in this city, except the Design Museum—the Kirkland, where a local painter collected furniture and supplies from Arts and Crafts to Postmodern. Just really great. Entry is included with a visit to the Denver Art Museum, which has diverse collections—from Impressionism (they have a Manet, a Van Gogh, a Cézanne, several Sisleys) to photography. The best part for me was the “Ancient Americas” totems—huge, impressive wooden sculptures, painted, the kind you’re more used to seeing in Polynesia or Easter Island. Personally, I didn’t know Natives made them too. That’s what museums are for!
Back at the airport, where I had to tag my own luggage (you have to do everything yourself with these US airlines). The tag said SLC/CDG! But we were supposed to connect through JFK. Turns out, they’d put us on a DEN/SLC/CDG flight without telling us. In the end, we gained 30 minutes on our original arrival time in Paris!
There you go—hope this inspires other travelers! !
Hi there,
The first stop on our trip is Memphis. How much time should we spend there to see the must-see spots?
Of course, I’m thinking of Elvis Presley’s house, but I don’t think Memphis is just about that.
Any suggestions for accommodation for 4 people?
Thanks for your feedback!
Hi everyone,
We’ve made up our minds—this summer, we’re heading back to the USA. Our last trip to the American West was in 2017. Back then, I planned my itinerary with help from this forum, and it was perfect.
I’ve drawn inspiration from a few travel journals and some really interesting websites to sketch out a rough route.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on this itinerary.
Let me know if I’ve missed any cool stops along the way or if some things seem unnecessary.
My husband and I love hiking, nature, and photography, but we’re not into museums and aren’t big fans of cities.
We’ve sorted our ESTA, checked out hotels, and already booked some with cancellation options. All that’s left is the flight tickets and renting a vehicle.
If you’ve got any tips or great deals, we’d love to hear them. Thanks to anyone who takes the time to share their thoughts!
USA ITINERARY, DENVER/DENVER LOOP, YELLOWSTONE 2025
DAY 1: FLIGHT FROM MARSEILLE, ARRIVAL IN DENVER Arrival in Denver / pick up rental vehicle /
Estes Park, Rocky Mountain (note: a permit is required)
DAY 2: ESTES PARK / ROCKY MOUNTAIN
Rocky Mountain
DAY 3: ROCKY MOUNTAIN / CHEYENNE / FORT LARAMIE / CUSTER
Cheyenne (giant boots, The Wranglers store) Fort Laramie Custer and its Bison statues, Wyoming State Museum (free) Custer State Park
DAY 4: CUSTER, BADLANDS NATIONAL PARK
Crazy Horse Memorial Mount Rushmore Rapid City (Chapel in the Hills, Presidents’ statues) – hometown of Calamity Jane and Wild Bill Badlands National Park
DAY 5: BADLANDS NATIONAL PARK
Badlands National Park Wall Drugstore (Wall Drug)
DAY 6: WALL / SHERIDAN
Devil’s Tower (1 hour) Buffalo, quick stop Deadwood, an old gold rush town with a well-restored downtown
DAY 7: SHERIDAN / COOKE CITY
Bighorn National Forest Bighorn National Recreation Area (secret arch to find) Chief Joseph Highway, stop at Indian Summit Cody, hometown of Buffalo Bill
DAY 8: COOKE CITY / YELLOWSTONE
Roosevelt Mammoth Hot Springs Norris Basin Lake Village
DAY 9: YELLOWSTONE
Canyon Village South and North Rim Mud Volcano Lake Village
DAY 10: YELLOWSTONE
Lake Village Madison via Norris Basin, Porcelain Basin Old Faithful, Firehole, Midway Basin
DAY 11: YELLOWSTONE
Old Faithful
DAY 12: YELLOWSTONE
Old Faithful West Basin
DAY 13: YELLOWSTONE / GRAND TETON
Grand Teton via the West on Teton Park Road
DAY 14: MORAN / MANILA
Grand Teton via the East route Pilot Butte (wild horses, pronghorns) Rock Springs Red Canyon (visitor center, well-maintained loop)
DAY 15: MANILA / VERNAL
Rock Springs Flaming Gorge National Recreation Area Dinosaur National Monument
DAY 16: VERNAL
Dinosaur National Monument
DAY 17: VERNAL / GRAND JUNCTION
Fantasy Canyon (2 hours) Colorado National Monument West entrance
DAY 18: GRAND JUNCTION / MONTROSE
Colorado National Monument East entrance Black Canyon of the Gunnison Crested Butte (lovely spot)
DAY 19: MONTROSE / ALAMOSA
Black Canyon of the Gunnison (3 hours) Great Sand Dunes National Park
DAY 20: ALAMOSA / COLORADO SPRINGS
Great Sand Dunes National Park Paint Mines Interpretive Park (2 hours) Garden of the Gods in downtown Colorado Springs
DAY 21: COLORADO SPRINGS / SILVERTHORNE OR DENVER
Bass Pro Shop (outdoor gear store) Outlets in Silverthorne or visit Denver
DAY 22: SILVERTHORNE OR DENVER
Wash the vehicle / fill up with gas
Flight departure at 4:30 PM (tentative)
DAY 23: ARRIVAL HOME Arrival in Marseille at 11:15 AM (tentative), then back home
DAY 24: BACK TO WORK!!!
If you’ve got any tips or great deals, we’d love to hear them. Thanks to anyone who takes the time to share their thoughts!
USA ITINERARY, DENVER/DENVER LOOP, YELLOWSTONE 2025
DAY 1: FLIGHT FROM MARSEILLE, ARRIVAL IN DENVER Arrival in Denver / pick up rental vehicle /
Estes Park, Rocky Mountain (note: a permit is required)
DAY 2: ESTES PARK / ROCKY MOUNTAIN
Rocky Mountain
DAY 3: ROCKY MOUNTAIN / CHEYENNE / FORT LARAMIE / CUSTER
Cheyenne (giant boots, The Wranglers store) Fort Laramie Custer and its Bison statues, Wyoming State Museum (free) Custer State Park
DAY 4: CUSTER, BADLANDS NATIONAL PARK
Crazy Horse Memorial Mount Rushmore Rapid City (Chapel in the Hills, Presidents’ statues) – hometown of Calamity Jane and Wild Bill Badlands National Park
DAY 5: BADLANDS NATIONAL PARK
Badlands National Park Wall Drugstore (Wall Drug)
DAY 6: WALL / SHERIDAN
Devil’s Tower (1 hour) Buffalo, quick stop Deadwood, an old gold rush town with a well-restored downtown
DAY 7: SHERIDAN / COOKE CITY
Bighorn National Forest Bighorn National Recreation Area (secret arch to find) Chief Joseph Highway, stop at Indian Summit Cody, hometown of Buffalo Bill
DAY 8: COOKE CITY / YELLOWSTONE
Roosevelt Mammoth Hot Springs Norris Basin Lake Village
DAY 9: YELLOWSTONE
Canyon Village South and North Rim Mud Volcano Lake Village
DAY 10: YELLOWSTONE
Lake Village Madison via Norris Basin, Porcelain Basin Old Faithful, Firehole, Midway Basin
DAY 11: YELLOWSTONE
Old Faithful
DAY 12: YELLOWSTONE
Old Faithful West Basin
DAY 13: YELLOWSTONE / GRAND TETON
Grand Teton via the West on Teton Park Road
DAY 14: MORAN / MANILA
Grand Teton via the East route Pilot Butte (wild horses, pronghorns) Rock Springs Red Canyon (visitor center, well-maintained loop)
DAY 15: MANILA / VERNAL
Rock Springs Flaming Gorge National Recreation Area Dinosaur National Monument
DAY 16: VERNAL
Dinosaur National Monument
DAY 17: VERNAL / GRAND JUNCTION
Fantasy Canyon (2 hours) Colorado National Monument West entrance
DAY 18: GRAND JUNCTION / MONTROSE
Colorado National Monument East entrance Black Canyon of the Gunnison Crested Butte (lovely spot)
DAY 19: MONTROSE / ALAMOSA
Black Canyon of the Gunnison (3 hours) Great Sand Dunes National Park
DAY 20: ALAMOSA / COLORADO SPRINGS
Great Sand Dunes National Park Paint Mines Interpretive Park (2 hours) Garden of the Gods in downtown Colorado Springs
DAY 21: COLORADO SPRINGS / SILVERTHORNE OR DENVER
Bass Pro Shop (outdoor gear store) Outlets in Silverthorne or visit Denver
DAY 22: SILVERTHORNE OR DENVER
Wash the vehicle / fill up with gas
Flight departure at 4:30 PM (tentative)
DAY 23: ARRIVAL HOME Arrival in Marseille at 11:15 AM (tentative), then back home
DAY 24: BACK TO WORK!!!
Bonjour à tous ! J'aurais voulu savoir si quelqu'un savait jusqu'à quelle heure on peut " visiter" la petite ville de Selligman en été ? Quand je dis visiter je veux dire , me promener dans l'unique rue , voir les quelques curiosités , les voitures style " cars" ( ça plaira à mon fils !) , rentrer dans quelques petites boutiques , s'acheter une petite babiole ... J'ai peur qu'en arrivant à 18h , même en été , tout soit déjà fermé ... !!!
Qu'en pensez-vous ?
Bonjour à tous,
je prépare un voyage dans l'ouest américain et me demandais quelles sont les chaînes de supermarché à privilégier ou renommer pour faire le plein de salades ou aliments pour sandwich du midi .... (en dehors des fastfoods bien sûr!)
Merci beaucoup
je prépare un voyage dans l'ouest américain et me demandais quelles sont les chaînes de supermarché à privilégier ou renommer pour faire le plein de salades ou aliments pour sandwich du midi .... (en dehors des fastfoods bien sûr!)
Merci beaucoup
Hi there,
We're leaving at the end of June and will be driving the route between Buffalo and Cody. We’ve already booked our accommodations and a rodeo in Cody, but during the day, we’ll be driving between the two and I’m unsure about the itinerary. Which route do you think is the most pleasant, interesting, or scenic between: - The northern route via Highway 14 with Sheridan, Lowell, etc. - The southern route with Highways 16/20/14, passing by Loaf Mountain Overlook, Powder River Pass, Ten Sleep Canyon...
We’ll be in a car, so we should be able to drive on any road. Thanks for your input!
Laura
We're leaving at the end of June and will be driving the route between Buffalo and Cody. We’ve already booked our accommodations and a rodeo in Cody, but during the day, we’ll be driving between the two and I’m unsure about the itinerary. Which route do you think is the most pleasant, interesting, or scenic between: - The northern route via Highway 14 with Sheridan, Lowell, etc. - The southern route with Highways 16/20/14, passing by Loaf Mountain Overlook, Powder River Pass, Ten Sleep Canyon...
We’ll be in a car, so we should be able to drive on any road. Thanks for your input!
Laura
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi,
I’m heading out soon to visit Grand Teton, Yellowstone, and Olympic NP, which means I’ll be camping—a topic I’m totally new to.
For me, just the camping part feels like a big adventure, even a challenge.
I was wondering if it’s easy to find camping gear in Denver or along the way to Grand Teton, especially at Walmart, or if it’d be smarter to buy everything in France? Are there other stores where I can pick up the essentials if Walmart isn’t an option?
I was wondering if it’s easy to find camping gear in Denver or along the way to Grand Teton, especially at Walmart, or if it’d be smarter to buy everything in France? Are there other stores where I can pick up the essentials if Walmart isn’t an option?
Route 66 in 30 days
From Chicago to Los Angeles with a few stops at sites near the route: a total of 6,800 km. Total trip cost: 8,600 € all-inclusive—flights, car rental, gas, meals (raw veggies and fruit for lunch, fast food in the evening), hotels, and little knick-knacks picked up here and there. British Airways flights from Basel-Mulhouse Midsize car from Dollar via AutoEurope. No issues on return. Accommodations booked through Booking
First off, we met really friendly people all along the way. Most attractions are free, and you can easily walk into bars, hotels, and gas stations without buying anything—though you might get kicked out.
The original Route 66 no longer exists in its entirety. Only sections remain, and signage varies by state. Plus, the route has changed over time. But with a good map or GPS, you can figure it out. I used the CoPilot app, which lets you download all the world’s maps for a small fee—so no data issues abroad. I’d noted the GPS coordinates of places to visit during my trip prep, which came in handy.
Along the route, you’ll find old gas stations, vintage motels (some renovated, some not) with their retro signs. The most famous is Bagdad Café. There are also tons of beautiful murals and the Muffler Men.
Chicago is an amazing city. We stayed for 2 days. The best move is to pick a hotel near a Blues Line metro station—it takes you straight from the airport to your hotel, then to downtown. At the end of the trip, the metro takes you back to the airport to pick up your rental car. The 72-hour pass is super convenient. Must-sees in Chicago: John Hancock Center (skip the Tilt option—it’s a rip-off), the Chicago Riverwalk all the way to Merchandise Mart, Picasso and Calder statues, The Bean and its reflections, and don’t miss the signs marking the start/end of Route 66.
Here’s a non-exhaustive list of things that surprised or delighted us (aside from major sites like Petrified Forest): - Joliet and its prison tied to the *Blues Brothers* story - Gardner and its jail cells - Abraham Lincoln’s tomb in Springfield - Country Classic Cars in Staunton (39.03066, -89.75145): a used car lot with everything from Ford Model Ts to classic American cars. You can walk freely through the three hangars - Old Chain of Rocks Bridge (38.76062, -90.47978) - St. Louis with its Gateway Arch and City Garden (full of sculptures and free to enter) - Philipsburg and its candy factory - Springfield: Bass Pro Shop outdoor store (37.179, -93.296) - Carthage: The Precious Moments Chapel (37.113, -94.345) - Foyil: Ed Galloway’s Totem Park - Tulsa: Harley Davidson dealership (36.111, -95.885) - Oklahoma City: Stockyards City—one of the trip’s highlights. Cattle auctions are wild; plan ahead for open days/hours (35.456, -97.552) - Centennial Land Run Monument (35.461, -97.504) - Amarillo: VW Slug Bug Ranch (35.191, -101.985) - Cadillac Ranch (35.191, -101.985) - Palo Duro Canyon State Park - Bandelier - El Morro, NM - Canyon de Chelly (detour) - Little Painted Desert (35.157608, -110.47105) - Winslow: *Standin’ on the Corner* (Eagles) - Oatman and its burros - Las Vegas: two days, one spent at Valley of the Fire and Red Rock Canyon. Pick a hotel near Fremont Avenue for nightlife - Rainbow Basin Area (35.012369, -117.03858) - The Bottle Tree Ranch (34.69113, -117.34206) - The Justice Private Automotive Collection in Duarte (34.13830, -117.94591) - Los Angeles: 4 days. Start at Griffith Observatory for a city overview and the Hollywood sign. Don’t forget to see the end of Route 66 in Santa Monica. Venice is worth a visit for a more authentic vibe. Check out the Walt Disney Concert Hall and surrounding buildings for the architecture. Distances are huge. We mixed driving with the metro. Avoid the Interstates—they’re packed with traffic and frequent jams. Stick to parallel roads
From Chicago to Los Angeles with a few stops at sites near the route: a total of 6,800 km. Total trip cost: 8,600 € all-inclusive—flights, car rental, gas, meals (raw veggies and fruit for lunch, fast food in the evening), hotels, and little knick-knacks picked up here and there. British Airways flights from Basel-Mulhouse Midsize car from Dollar via AutoEurope. No issues on return. Accommodations booked through Booking
First off, we met really friendly people all along the way. Most attractions are free, and you can easily walk into bars, hotels, and gas stations without buying anything—though you might get kicked out.
The original Route 66 no longer exists in its entirety. Only sections remain, and signage varies by state. Plus, the route has changed over time. But with a good map or GPS, you can figure it out. I used the CoPilot app, which lets you download all the world’s maps for a small fee—so no data issues abroad. I’d noted the GPS coordinates of places to visit during my trip prep, which came in handy.
Along the route, you’ll find old gas stations, vintage motels (some renovated, some not) with their retro signs. The most famous is Bagdad Café. There are also tons of beautiful murals and the Muffler Men.
Chicago is an amazing city. We stayed for 2 days. The best move is to pick a hotel near a Blues Line metro station—it takes you straight from the airport to your hotel, then to downtown. At the end of the trip, the metro takes you back to the airport to pick up your rental car. The 72-hour pass is super convenient. Must-sees in Chicago: John Hancock Center (skip the Tilt option—it’s a rip-off), the Chicago Riverwalk all the way to Merchandise Mart, Picasso and Calder statues, The Bean and its reflections, and don’t miss the signs marking the start/end of Route 66.
Here’s a non-exhaustive list of things that surprised or delighted us (aside from major sites like Petrified Forest): - Joliet and its prison tied to the *Blues Brothers* story - Gardner and its jail cells - Abraham Lincoln’s tomb in Springfield - Country Classic Cars in Staunton (39.03066, -89.75145): a used car lot with everything from Ford Model Ts to classic American cars. You can walk freely through the three hangars - Old Chain of Rocks Bridge (38.76062, -90.47978) - St. Louis with its Gateway Arch and City Garden (full of sculptures and free to enter) - Philipsburg and its candy factory - Springfield: Bass Pro Shop outdoor store (37.179, -93.296) - Carthage: The Precious Moments Chapel (37.113, -94.345) - Foyil: Ed Galloway’s Totem Park - Tulsa: Harley Davidson dealership (36.111, -95.885) - Oklahoma City: Stockyards City—one of the trip’s highlights. Cattle auctions are wild; plan ahead for open days/hours (35.456, -97.552) - Centennial Land Run Monument (35.461, -97.504) - Amarillo: VW Slug Bug Ranch (35.191, -101.985) - Cadillac Ranch (35.191, -101.985) - Palo Duro Canyon State Park - Bandelier - El Morro, NM - Canyon de Chelly (detour) - Little Painted Desert (35.157608, -110.47105) - Winslow: *Standin’ on the Corner* (Eagles) - Oatman and its burros - Las Vegas: two days, one spent at Valley of the Fire and Red Rock Canyon. Pick a hotel near Fremont Avenue for nightlife - Rainbow Basin Area (35.012369, -117.03858) - The Bottle Tree Ranch (34.69113, -117.34206) - The Justice Private Automotive Collection in Duarte (34.13830, -117.94591) - Los Angeles: 4 days. Start at Griffith Observatory for a city overview and the Hollywood sign. Don’t forget to see the end of Route 66 in Santa Monica. Venice is worth a visit for a more authentic vibe. Check out the Walt Disney Concert Hall and surrounding buildings for the architecture. Distances are huge. We mixed driving with the metro. Avoid the Interstates—they’re packed with traffic and frequent jams. Stick to parallel roads
I'm thinking of going to Miami at the end of January for 10 days. What do you recommend I see, where to stay, etc.? I'm open to all suggestions. Thanks!
Corinne
a ce jour, le prix d'une location mid size SUV pour l'annee prochaine est de 900 a 1200 euros pour 3 semaines suivant le site
or, par le passe, on trouvait toujours des prix de 550 a 700 euros pour la meme duree
le prix des hotels, motels explose depuis l'invasion asiatique(pas de racisme, juste une constatation)
si les billets d'avions font pareils, ca va vite devenir un luxe de partir aux USA malheureusement.
je rentre d'un voyage du 28/09/2019 au 14/10/2019, j'avais sollicité de l'aide sur le forum afin d'établir l'itinéraire et les conseils ont été bénéfiques pour la réussite de ce premier voyage de San Francisco à Las Vegas.
Merci pour l'aide apportée et tous les conseils et informations glanés sur le forum.
Je détaille plus bas les visites réalisées avec un timing raisonnable, sans besoin de se presser et les hôtels situés près des sites.
Le temps a été magnifique, ciel bleu tout le temps, temps frais et ensoleillé idéal pour les balades, température de -3° à Bryce Canyon le matin à 30° à Death Valley, pas de brouillard à San Francisco. Gros coup de chance ?
L'affluence était raisonnable, plus de monde le week-end, une période parfaite pour profiter des sites sans la foule. Je n'ose imaginer ce que ce doit être en été, les parkings n'étant pas très grands sur les sites des parcs.
Nous avons parcouru 3500 km, avec des étapes plus ou moins longues et en intercalant des randonnées ou des visites pour couper les étapes un peu longues. Seule l'étape de Mammoth Lakes à Death Valley nous a paru longue et le paysage monotone.
SAMEDI 28 SEPTEMBRE SAN FRANCISCO Arrivée à l'hôtel à 15h, Executive Hotel Vintage Court San Francisco, 650 Bush St, nécessaire pour faire un café /thé, frigo visite du quartier chinois
DIMANCHE 29 SEPTEMBRE SAN FRANCISCO, à pied : UNION SQUARE Gospel à glide church 330 Ellis St, à 11h plaque tournante du cable car à powell street COIT TOWER à TELEGRAPH HILL PIER 39, FISHERMAN'S WHARF virages de LOMBARD STREET promenade au bord de l'océan à Fort Mason et coucher de soleil à Crissy Field retour en taxi
LUNDI 30 SEPTEMBRE SAN FRANCISCO prise de la voiture à 8 h, aucun problème pour se garer lors des visites : PAINTED LADIES ALAMO SQUARE MISSION peintures murales BALMY ALLEY, TWIN PEAKS (501 twin peak boulevard) HAIGHT-ASHBURY Buena Vista Park GOLDEN GATE BRIDGE WELCOME CENTER, GOLDEN GATE BRIDGE SAUSALITO
j'avais choisi un hôtel en-dehors de San Francisco pour être plus prêt pour le départ le lendemain : hotel oakland Best Western Plus Bayside Hotel, 1717 Embarcadero, Oakland, avec frigo, micro-ondes, demander chambre côté baie
j'avais planifié des courses à Walmart, 1919 Davis St, San Leandro, CA 94577, le magasin n'a pratiquement aucun produits frais et n'est pas à recommander, j'ai fait d'autres courses dans d'autres Walmart beaucoup mieux achalandés.
MARDI 1 OCTOBRE arrivée pour l'ouverture à san francisco outlets à livermore à 45 km de l'hôtel, puis poursuite vers Yosemite et visite de MARIPOSA GROVE et randonnées de big trees loop trail et grizzly giant loop trail route de MARIPOSA GROVE à EL PORTAL par valley view et tunnel view, beau coucher de soleil
Yosemite View Lodge à El Portal kitchenette, pt magasin, pizzeria, pt dej cher, plutôt chambre côté rivière
MERCREDI 2 OCTOBRE traversée de YOSEMITE PARK par la Tioga Road arrêts à ARTIST'S POINT, OLMSTED POINT et TUOLUMNE MEADOWS
visite de BODIE
coucher de soleil à MONO LAKE à South Tufa
Juniper Springs Resort, 4000 Meridian Blvd, Mammoth Lakes, cuisine
JEUDI 3 OCTOBRE Alabama Hilles à Lone Pine DEATH VALLEY MESQUITE FLAT SAND DUNES
hôtel THE RANCH Highway 190, Furnace Creek Village, pt déj, steakhouse et restaurant chers, prévoir achats avant, épicerie chère, frigo dans chambre.
en fin d'après-midi, coucher de soleil très rapide et nous sommes arrivés un peu tard à artist's palette DEVIL'S GOLF COURSE BADWATER ARTIST DRIVE
VENDREDI 4 OCTOBRE DEATH VALLEY , au lever du soleil : ZABRISKIE POINT TWENTY MULE TEAM CANYON BADWATER
puis route vers ZION NP et petite randonnée the Grotto
MAJESTIC VIEW LODGE 2400 Zion Park Boulevard P.O. Box 420 Springdale frigo, cafetière,
SAMEDI 5 OCTOBRE poursuite de la visite de ZION, beaucoup de monde et de l'attente pour la prise de la navette pour Emerald Pools Trail
puis arrêt sur la route highway 9 au tunnel pour Canyon Overlook Trail et presque en arrivant à Bryce Canyon à Red Canyon et rando de Hoodoo Trail
Hôtel BRYCE VIEW LODGE 105 E Center Street, Bryce Canyon City frigo, micro-ondes, cafetière. Machine à glace au rez-de-chaussée. Tables de pique-nique disponibles entre les bâtiments.
DIMANCHE 6 OCTOBRE BRYCE CANYON , lever du soleil puis rando de Navajo Loop et Queen's Garden
l'après-midi, en voiture jusqu'à Rainbow Point et arrêts au retour à plusieurs points de vue pour le coucher de soleil
LUNDI 7 OCTOBRE De BRYCE CANYON à PAGE arrêt à TOADSTOOLS HOODOOS et petite rando
pique-nique et plage au lac Powell à Lone Rock, puis arrêt au barrage et à Horseshoe Bend
hôtel Quality Inn Page 287 N. Lake Powell Boulevard, frigo, aire de pique-nique,
MARDI 8 OCTOBRE PAGE grosse fatigue pour tous et relâchement avant la visite programmée à 11h30 de Upper Antelope Canyon puis plage à Antelope Point et scenic view et belle balade au coucher de soleil à hanging gardens
MERCREDI 9 OCTOBRE MONUMENT VALLEY visite en voiture sur piste pour faire la boucle et profiter des points de vue, puis en fin d'après-midi, belle balade au coucher de soleil de Wildcat Trail
Hôtel the view indian route 42 Monument Valley 3 frigo, micro-ondes, chambre à l'étage
JEUDI 10 OCTOBRE GRAND CANYON
en voiture points de vue : Desert View Point et Tower, Navajo Point, Moran Point , Mather Point, puis continuation à pied des points de vue le long de Rim Trail puis prise de la navette rouge pour arrêt à Maricopa Point et poursuite à pied, coucher de soleil à Hopi Point, très beau parcours de Hopi Point à Mohave Point
YAVAPAI LODGE WEST, 11 Yavapai Lodge Road, Grand Canyon, mini-frigo, machine à glaçons, cafetière
VENDREDI 11 OCTOBRE De GRAND CANYON à LAS VEGAS, arrêts sur la Route 66 à Williams, Seligman, Hackberry, Kingman
puis derniers achats à Las Vegas South Premium Outlets 7400 S Las Vegas Blvd,
LUXOR HOTEL 3900 S las vegas boulevard
vers 18h, départ à pied pour quelques visites : M&M WORLD BOUTIQUE COCA COLA BELLAGIO, CEASAR PALACE PARIS FLAMINGO VENETIAN à minuit, grosse fatigue et retour en taxi à l'hôtel
SAMEDI 12 OCTOBRE départ LAS VEGAS 11h10 et retour à PARIS à 9h30 le dimanche
Pour les repas, nous avons alterné pique-nique (plutôt le midi) et resto. Souvent, beaucoup de monde le soir et de l'attente même en semaine. Nous avons quelquefois préféré faire l'impasse sur un endroit prévu car l'attente était trop longue, notamment pour 2 restaurants à Page, ainsi qu'à San Francisco. Nous étions partant en basse saison.
Pour l'itinéraire et de l'avis de tous les participants, une journée à Page aurait peut-être été suffisant, mais cela nous a permis de faire un break et de nous reposer.
Le temps a été magnifique, ciel bleu tout le temps, temps frais et ensoleillé idéal pour les balades, température de -3° à Bryce Canyon le matin à 30° à Death Valley, pas de brouillard à San Francisco. Gros coup de chance ?
L'affluence était raisonnable, plus de monde le week-end, une période parfaite pour profiter des sites sans la foule. Je n'ose imaginer ce que ce doit être en été, les parkings n'étant pas très grands sur les sites des parcs.
Nous avons parcouru 3500 km, avec des étapes plus ou moins longues et en intercalant des randonnées ou des visites pour couper les étapes un peu longues. Seule l'étape de Mammoth Lakes à Death Valley nous a paru longue et le paysage monotone.
SAMEDI 28 SEPTEMBRE SAN FRANCISCO Arrivée à l'hôtel à 15h, Executive Hotel Vintage Court San Francisco, 650 Bush St, nécessaire pour faire un café /thé, frigo visite du quartier chinois
DIMANCHE 29 SEPTEMBRE SAN FRANCISCO, à pied : UNION SQUARE Gospel à glide church 330 Ellis St, à 11h plaque tournante du cable car à powell street COIT TOWER à TELEGRAPH HILL PIER 39, FISHERMAN'S WHARF virages de LOMBARD STREET promenade au bord de l'océan à Fort Mason et coucher de soleil à Crissy Field retour en taxi
LUNDI 30 SEPTEMBRE SAN FRANCISCO prise de la voiture à 8 h, aucun problème pour se garer lors des visites : PAINTED LADIES ALAMO SQUARE MISSION peintures murales BALMY ALLEY, TWIN PEAKS (501 twin peak boulevard) HAIGHT-ASHBURY Buena Vista Park GOLDEN GATE BRIDGE WELCOME CENTER, GOLDEN GATE BRIDGE SAUSALITO
j'avais choisi un hôtel en-dehors de San Francisco pour être plus prêt pour le départ le lendemain : hotel oakland Best Western Plus Bayside Hotel, 1717 Embarcadero, Oakland, avec frigo, micro-ondes, demander chambre côté baie
j'avais planifié des courses à Walmart, 1919 Davis St, San Leandro, CA 94577, le magasin n'a pratiquement aucun produits frais et n'est pas à recommander, j'ai fait d'autres courses dans d'autres Walmart beaucoup mieux achalandés.
MARDI 1 OCTOBRE arrivée pour l'ouverture à san francisco outlets à livermore à 45 km de l'hôtel, puis poursuite vers Yosemite et visite de MARIPOSA GROVE et randonnées de big trees loop trail et grizzly giant loop trail route de MARIPOSA GROVE à EL PORTAL par valley view et tunnel view, beau coucher de soleil
Yosemite View Lodge à El Portal kitchenette, pt magasin, pizzeria, pt dej cher, plutôt chambre côté rivière
MERCREDI 2 OCTOBRE traversée de YOSEMITE PARK par la Tioga Road arrêts à ARTIST'S POINT, OLMSTED POINT et TUOLUMNE MEADOWS
visite de BODIE
coucher de soleil à MONO LAKE à South Tufa
Juniper Springs Resort, 4000 Meridian Blvd, Mammoth Lakes, cuisine
JEUDI 3 OCTOBRE Alabama Hilles à Lone Pine DEATH VALLEY MESQUITE FLAT SAND DUNES
hôtel THE RANCH Highway 190, Furnace Creek Village, pt déj, steakhouse et restaurant chers, prévoir achats avant, épicerie chère, frigo dans chambre.
en fin d'après-midi, coucher de soleil très rapide et nous sommes arrivés un peu tard à artist's palette DEVIL'S GOLF COURSE BADWATER ARTIST DRIVE
VENDREDI 4 OCTOBRE DEATH VALLEY , au lever du soleil : ZABRISKIE POINT TWENTY MULE TEAM CANYON BADWATER
puis route vers ZION NP et petite randonnée the Grotto
MAJESTIC VIEW LODGE 2400 Zion Park Boulevard P.O. Box 420 Springdale frigo, cafetière,
SAMEDI 5 OCTOBRE poursuite de la visite de ZION, beaucoup de monde et de l'attente pour la prise de la navette pour Emerald Pools Trail
puis arrêt sur la route highway 9 au tunnel pour Canyon Overlook Trail et presque en arrivant à Bryce Canyon à Red Canyon et rando de Hoodoo Trail
Hôtel BRYCE VIEW LODGE 105 E Center Street, Bryce Canyon City frigo, micro-ondes, cafetière. Machine à glace au rez-de-chaussée. Tables de pique-nique disponibles entre les bâtiments.
DIMANCHE 6 OCTOBRE BRYCE CANYON , lever du soleil puis rando de Navajo Loop et Queen's Garden
l'après-midi, en voiture jusqu'à Rainbow Point et arrêts au retour à plusieurs points de vue pour le coucher de soleil
LUNDI 7 OCTOBRE De BRYCE CANYON à PAGE arrêt à TOADSTOOLS HOODOOS et petite rando
pique-nique et plage au lac Powell à Lone Rock, puis arrêt au barrage et à Horseshoe Bend
hôtel Quality Inn Page 287 N. Lake Powell Boulevard, frigo, aire de pique-nique,
MARDI 8 OCTOBRE PAGE grosse fatigue pour tous et relâchement avant la visite programmée à 11h30 de Upper Antelope Canyon puis plage à Antelope Point et scenic view et belle balade au coucher de soleil à hanging gardens
MERCREDI 9 OCTOBRE MONUMENT VALLEY visite en voiture sur piste pour faire la boucle et profiter des points de vue, puis en fin d'après-midi, belle balade au coucher de soleil de Wildcat Trail
Hôtel the view indian route 42 Monument Valley 3 frigo, micro-ondes, chambre à l'étage
JEUDI 10 OCTOBRE GRAND CANYON
en voiture points de vue : Desert View Point et Tower, Navajo Point, Moran Point , Mather Point, puis continuation à pied des points de vue le long de Rim Trail puis prise de la navette rouge pour arrêt à Maricopa Point et poursuite à pied, coucher de soleil à Hopi Point, très beau parcours de Hopi Point à Mohave Point
YAVAPAI LODGE WEST, 11 Yavapai Lodge Road, Grand Canyon, mini-frigo, machine à glaçons, cafetière
VENDREDI 11 OCTOBRE De GRAND CANYON à LAS VEGAS, arrêts sur la Route 66 à Williams, Seligman, Hackberry, Kingman
puis derniers achats à Las Vegas South Premium Outlets 7400 S Las Vegas Blvd,
LUXOR HOTEL 3900 S las vegas boulevard
vers 18h, départ à pied pour quelques visites : M&M WORLD BOUTIQUE COCA COLA BELLAGIO, CEASAR PALACE PARIS FLAMINGO VENETIAN à minuit, grosse fatigue et retour en taxi à l'hôtel
SAMEDI 12 OCTOBRE départ LAS VEGAS 11h10 et retour à PARIS à 9h30 le dimanche
Pour les repas, nous avons alterné pique-nique (plutôt le midi) et resto. Souvent, beaucoup de monde le soir et de l'attente même en semaine. Nous avons quelquefois préféré faire l'impasse sur un endroit prévu car l'attente était trop longue, notamment pour 2 restaurants à Page, ainsi qu'à San Francisco. Nous étions partant en basse saison.
Pour l'itinéraire et de l'avis de tous les participants, une journée à Page aurait peut-être été suffisant, mais cela nous a permis de faire un break et de nous reposer.
Bonjour les amis,
En complément à mon post sur un circuit organisé, voir lien:
https://voyageforum.com/discussion/circuit-organise-ouest-sauvage-13-jours-12-nuits-d9697774/
Suite à ce tour, je souhaite rester une petite semaine à Denver (Hôtel + location d'une voiture).
Je prendrai une chambre dans un bon hôtel et je ferai des aller / retour durant la journée.
Pouvez-vous me conseiller les meilleurs sites à visiter dans la région de Denver, mais aussi de la ville. Egalement vos avis sur un bon hôtel, bien placé dans la ville. Eventuellement sur une bonne société de location de voitures que je louerai à l'aéroport de Denver.
Et puis vos bonnes adresses pour des restos et bars typiquement américains; des magasins de disques; whisky (Jack Daniel's) et bourbon; des outlets; pawn shops, musées et autres attractions. Aussi des parcs d'état ou nationaux, des villes cowboys, fantômes...
Bref, tout sur Denver et ses alentours... 😉
Merci pour vos réponses et très bon été à vous.
RV 😎
En complément à mon post sur un circuit organisé, voir lien:
https://voyageforum.com/discussion/circuit-organise-ouest-sauvage-13-jours-12-nuits-d9697774/
Suite à ce tour, je souhaite rester une petite semaine à Denver (Hôtel + location d'une voiture).
Je prendrai une chambre dans un bon hôtel et je ferai des aller / retour durant la journée.
Pouvez-vous me conseiller les meilleurs sites à visiter dans la région de Denver, mais aussi de la ville. Egalement vos avis sur un bon hôtel, bien placé dans la ville. Eventuellement sur une bonne société de location de voitures que je louerai à l'aéroport de Denver.
Et puis vos bonnes adresses pour des restos et bars typiquement américains; des magasins de disques; whisky (Jack Daniel's) et bourbon; des outlets; pawn shops, musées et autres attractions. Aussi des parcs d'état ou nationaux, des villes cowboys, fantômes...
Bref, tout sur Denver et ses alentours... 😉
Merci pour vos réponses et très bon été à vous.
RV 😎
Hello à tous !
Comme les voyages de cette année n'ont pu avoir lieu et qu'ils vont, pour la plupart, être repoussés à l'année prochaine, on en profite pour étoffer et améliorer un peu l'itinéraire initialement prévu. Du coup, j'ai une question : Est-ce quelqu'un a déjà emprunté la Smoky Mountain Road pour rejoindre la Hole in the Rock Road ? Si oui, quel est l'état de la piste (j'aurai un Wrangler) sachant que Google Maps m'indique 3 heures à partir d'Alstrom Point ? Et enfin, y a-t-il des choses à y voir (après le Smoky Mountain Overlook) ?
Merci d'avance,
Bonjour ,
Je viens vers vous afin de trouver la motivation de boucler mon roadtrip tout seul . Je m'explique ; je ne connais pas vraiment les US , mais je suis très désireux de découvrir ces parcs, et j'envisage de réserver un autotour Tui , plus cher mais solution de facilité , et j'ai un peu honte. 😐
Surtout que retraité j'ai le choix de la durée , et bien que possédant un anglais"basique" j'ai quand même une assez bonne habitude des voyages principalement en Asie que je sillonne depuis une vingtaine d'année les mains dans les poches , mais bon les USA , ce n'est pas l’Asie ... , et on se fait des films quand on ne connaît pas .😕
Merci aux connaisseurs de me faire partager leur science . Pour info le lien pour l'autotour que j'envisage de réserver . https://www.tui.fr/autotour-louest-en-famille-version-sensation_USAATFAS/
Cordialement..
Loïc
Je viens vers vous afin de trouver la motivation de boucler mon roadtrip tout seul . Je m'explique ; je ne connais pas vraiment les US , mais je suis très désireux de découvrir ces parcs, et j'envisage de réserver un autotour Tui , plus cher mais solution de facilité , et j'ai un peu honte. 😐
Surtout que retraité j'ai le choix de la durée , et bien que possédant un anglais"basique" j'ai quand même une assez bonne habitude des voyages principalement en Asie que je sillonne depuis une vingtaine d'année les mains dans les poches , mais bon les USA , ce n'est pas l’Asie ... , et on se fait des films quand on ne connaît pas .😕
Merci aux connaisseurs de me faire partager leur science . Pour info le lien pour l'autotour que j'envisage de réserver . https://www.tui.fr/autotour-louest-en-famille-version-sensation_USAATFAS/
Cordialement..
Loïc
Bonjour,
Je me permets de poster une demande car je suis un peu perdue dans l’etablissement de mon itinéraire. Nous avons pris des billets d’avion pour Denver aller retour (SLC était hors budget) et je souhaite visiter le Yellowstone, ainsi que la région de Moab. Ne connaissant pas les noms des lieux intéressants, ou à ne pas manquer entre ces lieux je ne sais où caler les itinéraires intermédiaires!!
Voici mon ébauche : 1 - 21/08/2020 arrivée à Denver à 17h30 Formalités, prise voiture de loc Nuit à proximité
2 - 22/08 route vers Casper (qui est à mi chemin pour le Yellowstone), nuit.
3 - 23/08 route vers Cody, pourquoi pas voir un rodéo si cela est possible
4- 24/08 entrée au Yellowstone, pour y passer 4 nuits (je pensais à 2 points de chute, j’ai vu un autre to pic en ce moment actif ou le membre avait mis la liste de ces hôtels et le prix je voulais prendre les mêmes que lui!)
5 25/08 Yellowstone 6 27/08 Yellowstone 7 28/08 Yellowstone
( faut vraiment que je me penche plus sur ce parc!)
8 29/08 : sortie du Yellowstone, nuit à Jackson
9 30/08 : route vers SLC
10 31/08 : route vers Moab
11 01/09 : parc de arches
12 02/09 parc Canyonlands
13 03/09 route vers Denver
14 04/09 ??
15 05/09 ??
16 06/09 : ?? vol retour à 19h
Voilà mon problème : 2 journées à caser dans l’itineraire, pour l’allegerou bien aller voir de belles choses à proximité je ne sais pas...
Merci de votre aide
Je me permets de poster une demande car je suis un peu perdue dans l’etablissement de mon itinéraire. Nous avons pris des billets d’avion pour Denver aller retour (SLC était hors budget) et je souhaite visiter le Yellowstone, ainsi que la région de Moab. Ne connaissant pas les noms des lieux intéressants, ou à ne pas manquer entre ces lieux je ne sais où caler les itinéraires intermédiaires!!
Voici mon ébauche : 1 - 21/08/2020 arrivée à Denver à 17h30 Formalités, prise voiture de loc Nuit à proximité
2 - 22/08 route vers Casper (qui est à mi chemin pour le Yellowstone), nuit.
3 - 23/08 route vers Cody, pourquoi pas voir un rodéo si cela est possible
4- 24/08 entrée au Yellowstone, pour y passer 4 nuits (je pensais à 2 points de chute, j’ai vu un autre to pic en ce moment actif ou le membre avait mis la liste de ces hôtels et le prix je voulais prendre les mêmes que lui!)
5 25/08 Yellowstone 6 27/08 Yellowstone 7 28/08 Yellowstone
( faut vraiment que je me penche plus sur ce parc!)
8 29/08 : sortie du Yellowstone, nuit à Jackson
9 30/08 : route vers SLC
10 31/08 : route vers Moab
11 01/09 : parc de arches
12 02/09 parc Canyonlands
13 03/09 route vers Denver
14 04/09 ??
15 05/09 ??
16 06/09 : ?? vol retour à 19h
Voilà mon problème : 2 journées à caser dans l’itineraire, pour l’allegerou bien aller voir de belles choses à proximité je ne sais pas...
Merci de votre aide
Bonjour,
Je souhaiterai savoir ou je peux trouver des magasins outlets à Herndon pour acheter des vetements type marque ralph lauren à prix intéressant?
Merci pour votre retour
Je souhaiterai savoir ou je peux trouver des magasins outlets à Herndon pour acheter des vetements type marque ralph lauren à prix intéressant?
Merci pour votre retour
This is a nightmare!
Auchan Telecom’s internet extension isn’t working… so no Google Maps! Big problem in the middle of nowhere yesterday, and we drove in circles for ages trying to find the hotel in Bakersfield. And today we’re heading to L.A.
What’s a quick and cheap solution?
Hi there,
- Is tap water safe to drink everywhere in the U.S., or do you prefer bottled water?
- How do you handle money?
★ Is cash preferred and more commonly used than card payments?
★ For ATM withdrawals, what are the fees? I’ve read that bank ATMs have lower fees than those in some stores—is that true?
★ Is the cashback trick used in the U.S. (e.g., for a $100 purchase, you pay $150, and the cashier gives you $50 in cash)?
Thanks in advance to U.S. experts for your tips!
Bonjour
Le titre du sujet ne demande pas beaucoup de details. Avez-vous des adresses de barsà huitres, plutot pas cher/pas trop cher, dans le centre mais pas exclusif s'il y a un bon rapport qualite prix et non bruyant, je veux die pas de musique bruyante ? En fait je pourrais payer "un peu plus" si necessaire. Tout cela c'est un peu exigent mais qui sait...
Merci
Azteca
Le titre du sujet ne demande pas beaucoup de details. Avez-vous des adresses de barsà huitres, plutot pas cher/pas trop cher, dans le centre mais pas exclusif s'il y a un bon rapport qualite prix et non bruyant, je veux die pas de musique bruyante ? En fait je pourrais payer "un peu plus" si necessaire. Tout cela c'est un peu exigent mais qui sait...
Merci
Azteca
Bonjour ,
Je planifie un voyage à Las vegas fin mai 2020 pour 4 nuits / 5 jours .
Nous sommes des personnes qui aimont marcher pour visiter et nous sommes en excellente santé . J'aimerais avoir des conseils sur les restos , les choses à voir , les forfaits , les types d'hotels ect. Est-ce que la période est correct coté climat , chaleur ? Comme hotels , on me conseille le Paris et le venise car au milieu de tout donc facile pour visiter sans automobile . Nous voulons faire la fête donc endroit avec animation . Tous les conseils sont les bienvenus.
Bonjour à tous,
Oui je sais c'est du déjà vu sur le forum mais j'aurais aimé vos conseils, vos adresses, vos coins cachés pour découvrir au mieux New York à Noël. Nous y avons déjà été 2 fois mais jamais à Noël.
Alors si certains ont déjà fait l'expérience et pense à un lieu ou une activité en particuliers, nous sommes preneurs.
Merci
Oui je sais c'est du déjà vu sur le forum mais j'aurais aimé vos conseils, vos adresses, vos coins cachés pour découvrir au mieux New York à Noël. Nous y avons déjà été 2 fois mais jamais à Noël.
Alors si certains ont déjà fait l'expérience et pense à un lieu ou une activité en particuliers, nous sommes preneurs.
Merci
Bonjour,
Le site regorge de carnets sur l'ouest et le cente des USA, par contre sur le coté est c'est morne plaine 🤪
Après avoir fait NY juste avant un funeste jour de septembre, la Floride en 2012, nous allons découvrir la cote est, mais pas que.
Au départ je comptais aller au Yucatan, mais ma fille moyennement intéressé par cette région me propose NY, la raison pour laquelle elle veut y aller est très originale, pour moi tout au moins.
Le problème c'est que faire NY il faut environ 1 semaine et après que faire ? Les grandes villes de la cote est ? Si j'ai pas de verdure de nature ça va pas le faire de mon coté.
J'ai donc élaboré ce voyage en lisant les quelques carnets qui traînent ici où là et sur des conseils que l'on m'a donné.
Donc le voici :
J1 Avion J2 Washington J3 Washington J4 Washington J5 Washington J6 Washington J7 Washington J8 Washington J9 Washington - Philadelphie J10 Philadelphie J11 Philadelphie J12 Philadelphie - Amish J13 Amish J14 Route des ponts - Corning J15 Route Niagara J16 Niagara - Finger Lakes J17 Finger Lakes J18 Finbger Lake - New York J19 New York J20 New York J21New York J24 New York J25 New York J26 New York J27 New York - Paris
Avant que l'on me pose la question pourquoi 7 jours à Washington ? La raison c'est la nature et la verdure. J'ai découvert 2 parcs nationaux non loin à savoir :
Shenandoah Great Falls Park (pas sur qu'il soit national celui-ci)
Nous irons passer deux journées dans ceux-ci avec un retour à Washington le soir. Je louerais donc une voiture pour 3 jours et j'en profiterai pour aller visiter l'extension du musée de l'air et de l'espace qui n'est pas si facile que ça d'accès en transport en commun.
Voilà si vous avez des remarques et suggestion je suis preneur.
Le site regorge de carnets sur l'ouest et le cente des USA, par contre sur le coté est c'est morne plaine 🤪
Après avoir fait NY juste avant un funeste jour de septembre, la Floride en 2012, nous allons découvrir la cote est, mais pas que.
Au départ je comptais aller au Yucatan, mais ma fille moyennement intéressé par cette région me propose NY, la raison pour laquelle elle veut y aller est très originale, pour moi tout au moins.
Le problème c'est que faire NY il faut environ 1 semaine et après que faire ? Les grandes villes de la cote est ? Si j'ai pas de verdure de nature ça va pas le faire de mon coté.
J'ai donc élaboré ce voyage en lisant les quelques carnets qui traînent ici où là et sur des conseils que l'on m'a donné.
Donc le voici :
J1 Avion J2 Washington J3 Washington J4 Washington J5 Washington J6 Washington J7 Washington J8 Washington J9 Washington - Philadelphie J10 Philadelphie J11 Philadelphie J12 Philadelphie - Amish J13 Amish J14 Route des ponts - Corning J15 Route Niagara J16 Niagara - Finger Lakes J17 Finger Lakes J18 Finbger Lake - New York J19 New York J20 New York J21New York J24 New York J25 New York J26 New York J27 New York - Paris
Avant que l'on me pose la question pourquoi 7 jours à Washington ? La raison c'est la nature et la verdure. J'ai découvert 2 parcs nationaux non loin à savoir :
Shenandoah Great Falls Park (pas sur qu'il soit national celui-ci)
Nous irons passer deux journées dans ceux-ci avec un retour à Washington le soir. Je louerais donc une voiture pour 3 jours et j'en profiterai pour aller visiter l'extension du musée de l'air et de l'espace qui n'est pas si facile que ça d'accès en transport en commun.
Voilà si vous avez des remarques et suggestion je suis preneur.
Hi everyone,
Let me introduce myself. I’m 45 and traveling with my husband and my daughter, who’ll be 17 soon. We’re used to road-trip-style vacations, in the US or elsewhere. This will be our 5th trip to the US. We’ve already visited several states: New York, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Washington DC, Florida, Wyoming, South Dakota, California, Utah, Nevada, and Arizona. I’d like to plan another trip starting from Denver to Colorado and New Mexico, which we haven’t explored yet, with a stop in a part of Arizona we haven’t visited before. So, I’d love to hear your thoughts on this itinerary if you’re familiar with the area. We’ll be traveling in the summer of 2026—admittedly not the best time for this route, but it’s the only time we can all get away for long enough. I’m also tied to the dates for Cheyenne Frontier Days, which we want to attend at the start of the trip. Thanks in advance for your input!
Day 1: Departure from Frankfurt > Arrival in Denver around 3 PM. Night in Denver
Day 2: Denver > Cheyenne Quick visit to Denver Drive to Cheyenne in the late afternoon 2-hour drive Night in Cheyenne Day 3: Cheyenne Frontier Days Night in Cheyenne
Day 4: Cheyenne > Estes Park (Rocky Mountains) Frontier Days during the day. Departure in the late afternoon for Estes Park 2-hour drive Night in Estes Park
Day 5: Hiking in the Rocky Mountains Nights in Estes Park
Day 6: Estes Park > Glenwood Springs We’ll take the day to drive the scenic route and stop at various viewpoints. Night in Glenwood Springs
Day 7: Glenwood Springs Hiking the Hanging Lake Trail + relaxing in the hot springs Night in Glenwood Springs
Day 8: Glenwood Springs > Montrose Visit Colorado NM along the way 3.5-hour drive Night in Montrose
Day 9: Black Canyon Night in Montrose
Day 10: Montrose > Farmington Visit Durango (without taking the train), Ouray, or Silverton along the way? 3.5-hour drive Night in Farmington
Day 11: Farmington > Chinle Bisti Badlands until early afternoon 3-hour drive Night in Chinle
Day 12: Chinle > Sedona Canyon de Chelly in the morning 4-hour drive Night in Sedona
Day 13 - 14: Hiking in Sedona Nights in Sedona
Day 15: Sedona > Tucson Saguaro West Park 3.5-hour drive Night at a ranch in Tucson
Day 16 - 17: Tucson City visit in the morning + ranch activities in the afternoon Nights at a ranch in Tucson
Day 18: > Wilcox Chiricahua NP 1-hour drive Night in Wilcox
Day 19: Wilcox > Alamogordo White Sands in the late afternoon 4.5-hour drive Night in Alamogordo
Day 20: Alamogordo > Carlsbad White Sands in the morning Bat viewing in the evening at Carlsbad 4.5-hour drive Night in Carlsbad
Day 21: Carlsbad > Albuquerque Cave visit in the morning Quick stop in Roswell 4.25-hour drive Night in Albuquerque Day 22: Albuquerque > Santa Fe Visit Albuquerque 1-hour drive Night in Santa Fe
Day 23: Santa Fe Kasha Katuwe Tent Rocks in the morning Visit Santa Fe in the afternoon Night in Santa Fe
Day 24: Santa Fe Bandelier in the morning Visit Santa Fe in the afternoon Night in Santa Fe
Day 25: Santa Fe > Alamosa Taos Pueblo along the way Great Sand Dunes in the late afternoon Zapata Falls Night in Alamosa
Day 26: Alamosa > Denver 4-hour drive Departure around 7 PM
Looking forward to your suggestions, corrections, and feedback!
Let me introduce myself. I’m 45 and traveling with my husband and my daughter, who’ll be 17 soon. We’re used to road-trip-style vacations, in the US or elsewhere. This will be our 5th trip to the US. We’ve already visited several states: New York, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Washington DC, Florida, Wyoming, South Dakota, California, Utah, Nevada, and Arizona. I’d like to plan another trip starting from Denver to Colorado and New Mexico, which we haven’t explored yet, with a stop in a part of Arizona we haven’t visited before. So, I’d love to hear your thoughts on this itinerary if you’re familiar with the area. We’ll be traveling in the summer of 2026—admittedly not the best time for this route, but it’s the only time we can all get away for long enough. I’m also tied to the dates for Cheyenne Frontier Days, which we want to attend at the start of the trip. Thanks in advance for your input!
Day 1: Departure from Frankfurt > Arrival in Denver around 3 PM. Night in Denver
Day 2: Denver > Cheyenne Quick visit to Denver Drive to Cheyenne in the late afternoon 2-hour drive Night in Cheyenne Day 3: Cheyenne Frontier Days Night in Cheyenne
Day 4: Cheyenne > Estes Park (Rocky Mountains) Frontier Days during the day. Departure in the late afternoon for Estes Park 2-hour drive Night in Estes Park
Day 5: Hiking in the Rocky Mountains Nights in Estes Park
Day 6: Estes Park > Glenwood Springs We’ll take the day to drive the scenic route and stop at various viewpoints. Night in Glenwood Springs
Day 7: Glenwood Springs Hiking the Hanging Lake Trail + relaxing in the hot springs Night in Glenwood Springs
Day 8: Glenwood Springs > Montrose Visit Colorado NM along the way 3.5-hour drive Night in Montrose
Day 9: Black Canyon Night in Montrose
Day 10: Montrose > Farmington Visit Durango (without taking the train), Ouray, or Silverton along the way? 3.5-hour drive Night in Farmington
Day 11: Farmington > Chinle Bisti Badlands until early afternoon 3-hour drive Night in Chinle
Day 12: Chinle > Sedona Canyon de Chelly in the morning 4-hour drive Night in Sedona
Day 13 - 14: Hiking in Sedona Nights in Sedona
Day 15: Sedona > Tucson Saguaro West Park 3.5-hour drive Night at a ranch in Tucson
Day 16 - 17: Tucson City visit in the morning + ranch activities in the afternoon Nights at a ranch in Tucson
Day 18: > Wilcox Chiricahua NP 1-hour drive Night in Wilcox
Day 19: Wilcox > Alamogordo White Sands in the late afternoon 4.5-hour drive Night in Alamogordo
Day 20: Alamogordo > Carlsbad White Sands in the morning Bat viewing in the evening at Carlsbad 4.5-hour drive Night in Carlsbad
Day 21: Carlsbad > Albuquerque Cave visit in the morning Quick stop in Roswell 4.25-hour drive Night in Albuquerque Day 22: Albuquerque > Santa Fe Visit Albuquerque 1-hour drive Night in Santa Fe
Day 23: Santa Fe Kasha Katuwe Tent Rocks in the morning Visit Santa Fe in the afternoon Night in Santa Fe
Day 24: Santa Fe Bandelier in the morning Visit Santa Fe in the afternoon Night in Santa Fe
Day 25: Santa Fe > Alamosa Taos Pueblo along the way Great Sand Dunes in the late afternoon Zapata Falls Night in Alamosa
Day 26: Alamosa > Denver 4-hour drive Departure around 7 PM
Looking forward to your suggestions, corrections, and feedback!
Hi there,
I know these aren’t the most popular destinations on the forum, but I thought I’d give it a shot.
I’d love to do a road trip loop next April, and I really want to visit Nashville and Memphis first.
Browsing the forum, I saw that Atlanta / Memphis / Nashville / Charlotte / Charleston / Savannah / Atlanta might be a good route. But I’m only planning to go for 14 days, and it seems like that might be too much. What do you think?
I mostly want to enjoy the music scene in the area and pass through the Smoky Mountains. I know I won’t have much time to stop for hiking, but oh well...
I’m saving Louisiana and New Orleans for another trip.
Thanks to anyone who can help me map out my route and make the most of this part of the U.S. that I don’t know at all yet.
Bonjour,
J'emmène mes grands-parents en voyage aux États-Unis à la fin du mois de décembre 2020. J'ai imaginé que ça pouvait être une très bonne idée de souscrire à une assurance voyage. Mon assurance CB ne couvre que "les ascendants et descendants, vivant sous le même toit", ce qui exclu de jure mes grands parents (ils auront 74 et 75 ans à la date du voyage).
Avez-vous des conseils ? Je peine un peu à me faire un avis, et je ne sais pas juger quelle police pourrait être "raisonnable". J'ai navigué sur le forum sans succès...
Merci beaucoup,
J'emmène mes grands-parents en voyage aux États-Unis à la fin du mois de décembre 2020. J'ai imaginé que ça pouvait être une très bonne idée de souscrire à une assurance voyage. Mon assurance CB ne couvre que "les ascendants et descendants, vivant sous le même toit", ce qui exclu de jure mes grands parents (ils auront 74 et 75 ans à la date du voyage).
Avez-vous des conseils ? Je peine un peu à me faire un avis, et je ne sais pas juger quelle police pourrait être "raisonnable". J'ai navigué sur le forum sans succès...
Merci beaucoup,









