Je parts en Argentine en novembre prochain et au cour de mon trip, je prévois de relier en 4x4 Salinas Grandes à San Antonio de los Cobres. J'aimerais savoir si la piste est praticable et bien entretenue ou si il y a des difficultés à l'emprunter ? Combien de temps faut-il prévoir pour faire ce parcours ? Y a t'il des problèmes pour rouler à cette altitude ? Merci pour vos réponses
Argentine en 4x4: piste entre Salinas Gandes et San Antonio de los Cobres
by Mimikadar
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour,
Je parts en Argentine en novembre prochain et au cour de mon trip, je prévois de relier en 4x4 Salinas Grandes à San Antonio de los Cobres. J'aimerais savoir si la piste est praticable et bien entretenue ou si il y a des difficultés à l'emprunter ? Combien de temps faut-il prévoir pour faire ce parcours ? Y a t'il des problèmes pour rouler à cette altitude ? Merci pour vos réponses
Je parts en Argentine en novembre prochain et au cour de mon trip, je prévois de relier en 4x4 Salinas Grandes à San Antonio de los Cobres. J'aimerais savoir si la piste est praticable et bien entretenue ou si il y a des difficultés à l'emprunter ? Combien de temps faut-il prévoir pour faire ce parcours ? Y a t'il des problèmes pour rouler à cette altitude ? Merci pour vos réponses
Bonjour,
Je parts en Argentine en novembre prochain et au cour de mon trip, je prévois de relier en 4x4 Salinas Grandes à San Antonio de los Cobres. J'aimerais savoir si la piste est praticable et bien entretenue ou si il y a des difficultés à l'emprunter ? Combien de temps faut-il prévoir pour faire ce parcours ? Y a t'il des problèmes pour rouler à cette altitude ? Merci pour vos réponses
Bonjour Jack, je pars pour 5 semaines en Argentine en Octobre Novembre 2018, et je vais faire un circuit dans le NOA, est passer par SADLCobres et SG. Perso je compte le faire avec un véhicule classique, et selon les commentaires réunis sur le site( je tiens à remercier au passage tous les spécialistes de cette région pour leurs infos très détaillées), il semblerait, si les conditions météo sont favorables que ce soit praticable. Pour toi, et à plus forte raison avec un 4x4, je pense que c'est tout bon. Équipé comme tu le sera, et si tu as le temps je ne serai trop te suggérer une excursion à Tolar Grande et ses environs, et le Campo de Piedra Pomez(fantastique selon les dires). Pour l'altitude, avec un 4x4 encore une fois ça ne devrait pas te poser de problème, contrairement à moi avec mon petit moteur ça risque d’être un peu poussif à certains endroits. Concernant les organismes, perso je vais porter dans ma trousse à pharmacie du coca 9ch(homéopathie), une petite plaquette de Diamox au cas ou, et tester, c'est l’occasion la feuille de coca. Bonne route à toi, et qui sait peut-être nous croiserons-nous au bord du chemin. fab,
Je parts en Argentine en novembre prochain et au cour de mon trip, je prévois de relier en 4x4 Salinas Grandes à San Antonio de los Cobres. J'aimerais savoir si la piste est praticable et bien entretenue ou si il y a des difficultés à l'emprunter ? Combien de temps faut-il prévoir pour faire ce parcours ? Y a t'il des problèmes pour rouler à cette altitude ? Merci pour vos réponses
Bonjour Jack, je pars pour 5 semaines en Argentine en Octobre Novembre 2018, et je vais faire un circuit dans le NOA, est passer par SADLCobres et SG. Perso je compte le faire avec un véhicule classique, et selon les commentaires réunis sur le site( je tiens à remercier au passage tous les spécialistes de cette région pour leurs infos très détaillées), il semblerait, si les conditions météo sont favorables que ce soit praticable. Pour toi, et à plus forte raison avec un 4x4, je pense que c'est tout bon. Équipé comme tu le sera, et si tu as le temps je ne serai trop te suggérer une excursion à Tolar Grande et ses environs, et le Campo de Piedra Pomez(fantastique selon les dires). Pour l'altitude, avec un 4x4 encore une fois ça ne devrait pas te poser de problème, contrairement à moi avec mon petit moteur ça risque d’être un peu poussif à certains endroits. Concernant les organismes, perso je vais porter dans ma trousse à pharmacie du coca 9ch(homéopathie), une petite plaquette de Diamox au cas ou, et tester, c'est l’occasion la feuille de coca. Bonne route à toi, et qui sait peut-être nous croiserons-nous au bord du chemin. fab,
fab
Merci pour ta réponse rassurante,
Je vais tenir compte de tes remarques et suggestions.
Pour ce qui est de l'homéopathie (Coca 9CH) j'y avait déjà pensé mais je me demande si cela est suffisant ? Le Diamox est surement plus efficace mais comporte peut être des contres indications
médicales ? La feuille de coca a fait ses preuves mais je ne sais pas s'il est facile de s'en procurer ?
Très cordialement
J-R
Hola
Aucun souci de qualité de piste entre Salinas Grandes et San Antonio de los Cobres, au moins sur la piste principale (EX RN40) entre le bord est de salinas grandes et San Antonio. Les pistes traces autour du hameau de cobres sont beaucoup plus incertaines avec des accumulations de sables....mais aucuns soucis réels avec un 4x4. Les feuilles de Coca se trouvent partout dans le Nord ouest Argentin qui bénéfici d'un régime de tolérance des autorités Argentines. Suerte
Aucun souci de qualité de piste entre Salinas Grandes et San Antonio de los Cobres, au moins sur la piste principale (EX RN40) entre le bord est de salinas grandes et San Antonio. Les pistes traces autour du hameau de cobres sont beaucoup plus incertaines avec des accumulations de sables....mais aucuns soucis réels avec un 4x4. Les feuilles de Coca se trouvent partout dans le Nord ouest Argentin qui bénéfici d'un régime de tolérance des autorités Argentines. Suerte
Hola Suerte,
Merci pour ta réponse, je n'ai pas l'intention de quitter l'ex RN40, je tiens compte de ton conseil.
Est-ce que les feuilles de coca sont vraiment efficace contre le mal des montagne ?
Cordialement
Jack-René
Bonjour
Je suis également OK avec tout ce qui a été dit précédemment. Pour les feuilles de coca c'est très efficace pour le MAM. Il faut les garder dans la bouche et les mastiquer. Mon conjoint l'a fait et il n'a ressenti aucun problème lié à l'altitude. Alors que moi , j'ai préféré ne pas en prendre... j'ai regretté.
Petite précision si vous avez des feuilles de coca, vous ne pourrez pas en ramener en France et ni passer au Chili / Bolivie avec (pour ceux qui font un trip sur plusieurs pays).
Sur mon blog en signature, vous trouverez une carte google map regroupant pas mal d'infos sur l'Argentine, si cela vous intéresse.
Je suis également OK avec tout ce qui a été dit précédemment. Pour les feuilles de coca c'est très efficace pour le MAM. Il faut les garder dans la bouche et les mastiquer. Mon conjoint l'a fait et il n'a ressenti aucun problème lié à l'altitude. Alors que moi , j'ai préféré ne pas en prendre... j'ai regretté.
Petite précision si vous avez des feuilles de coca, vous ne pourrez pas en ramener en France et ni passer au Chili / Bolivie avec (pour ceux qui font un trip sur plusieurs pays).
Sur mon blog en signature, vous trouverez une carte google map regroupant pas mal d'infos sur l'Argentine, si cela vous intéresse.
Il faut bien revenir pour repartir!
Bonjour,
Nous avons parcouru cette piste avec un Duster non 4X4 sans aucun problème fin juin. La piste était en très bon état sans passage de gué ni zone sablonneuse. Nous avons mis 3 à 4 h en prenant notre temps pour de nombreux arrêts
photos de voyages et de randonnées: http://mjpgouret.free.fr
itinérances: http://tinetpedro.blogspot.fr/
Merci,
Le temps de parcours me sera très utile pour évaluer le mien.
Cordialement
J-R
Pour ma part, ayant connaissance des 2 ruta 40 ( l'ancienne et la nouvelle) je conseille plutot la nouvelle que l'on prend après susques et qui passe par Huancar, Pastos Chicos et Puesto Sey et qui arrive sous le viaduc de la Polvirilla ( le train des nuages) Cette nouvelle 40 traverse des paysages nettement plus époustouflants alors que la 1ère est sur une zone toute plate dans grand intér^t;Pour aller de las salinas à susques il faut une bonne heure puis de Susques à San Antonio, il faut compter 3h...à faire de jour!!!..Si tu as un 4x4 il n'y a pas de pb...;sauf cas de fortes pluies .Il faut toujours se renseigner avant de s'embarquer sur les pistes. Il faut aussi être prudent et amener de quoi boire en quantité suffisante et quelques petites choses à grignoter...au cas où....
Susques est également une bourgade très intéressante parce-que pas touristique et où les autochtones ( les atacameños ) vivent leur vie. Susques possède la plus vieille église d'Argentine ( 1598) qui est une merveille avec ses peintures d'origine et son intérieur en bois de cardones ( cactus)
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Hi there,
We’re spending 18 days in New Zealand from 05/04 to 05/21, arriving in QUEENSTOWN and leaving from AUCKLAND. Any ideas for a road trip that covers the highlights of both islands but only changes hotels every 3–4 nights? Thanks.
We’re spending 18 days in New Zealand from 05/04 to 05/21, arriving in QUEENSTOWN and leaving from AUCKLAND. Any ideas for a road trip that covers the highlights of both islands but only changes hotels every 3–4 nights? Thanks.
Hi,
For our trip to Georgia in July, I’d like to rent a 4x4 starting from Tbilisi. Do you have any rental companies to recommend? The traditional rentals like Hertz, Avis, etc. seem way overpriced compared to local companies—what do you think? Are they properly insured?
Has anyone here tried Geo Rent Car, Auto 4 Rental, or Sur Price?
Also, I’m looking for info on the condition of the Ushguli–Lentekhi track—is it passable?
Thanks for your tips! Penlan
For our trip to Georgia in July, I’d like to rent a 4x4 starting from Tbilisi. Do you have any rental companies to recommend? The traditional rentals like Hertz, Avis, etc. seem way overpriced compared to local companies—what do you think? Are they properly insured?
Has anyone here tried Geo Rent Car, Auto 4 Rental, or Sur Price?
Also, I’m looking for info on the condition of the Ushguli–Lentekhi track—is it passable?
Thanks for your tips! Penlan
Hi everyone,
A well-prepped 4x4, a travel plan across Africa in stages since I’ve got kids to see regularly and work to earn a living.
I’m leaving in November for about a month with the goal of reaching Senegal via Mauritania. I’d love to share this trip with someone who wants to discover Mauritania and a bit of Senegal... and also experience life on board a 4x4 in the desert or bush, sometimes sleeping in the vehicle or in hostels/small hotels for comfort. I want to share this rediscovery because two’s better than one!
Just traveling, exploring, and living! !
Hi there,
I’m planning to explore Argentine and Chilean Patagonia for a month in December 2019.
I’m looking for a rental company (or several) that offers single-cab 4x4 pick-ups with a fitted camper cell for two people. I’m specifically after a vehicle with an indoor shower for extra comfort ;) So, no vans—at least not from the rental companies I’ve seen so far.
While browsing the forum, I came across the Chilean rental company Holiday Rent. But do you have any recommendations for Argentine rentals? Because, if I can’t return the vehicle in the same city as pickup, I’d prefer—and it’d likely be cheaper—to at least return it in the same country.
I’m planning to explore Argentine and Chilean Patagonia for a month in December 2019.
I’m looking for a rental company (or several) that offers single-cab 4x4 pick-ups with a fitted camper cell for two people. I’m specifically after a vehicle with an indoor shower for extra comfort ;) So, no vans—at least not from the rental companies I’ve seen so far.
While browsing the forum, I came across the Chilean rental company Holiday Rent. But do you have any recommendations for Argentine rentals? Because, if I can’t return the vehicle in the same city as pickup, I’d prefer—and it’d likely be cheaper—to at least return it in the same country.
Hello,
I’m traveling through Argentina and Chile (as well as Paraguay and Uruguay) with a 2019 Toyota Hilux Euro 6. Could anyone tell me if the local diesel is suitable for its engine, or if I need to take any special precautions (like adding an additive, for example) for these countries? I’d also like to know if driving at high altitudes is possible, and up to what elevation—or if I should worry about the vehicle going into limp mode? If that happens, what should I do?
Thanks in advance
I’m traveling through Argentina and Chile (as well as Paraguay and Uruguay) with a 2019 Toyota Hilux Euro 6. Could anyone tell me if the local diesel is suitable for its engine, or if I need to take any special precautions (like adding an additive, for example) for these countries? I’d also like to know if driving at high altitudes is possible, and up to what elevation—or if I should worry about the vehicle going into limp mode? If that happens, what should I do?
Thanks in advance
Hi there,
Can you tell me if the road between Zagora and M'Gouna is easy or difficult for a 4x4? How much time and how many kilometers should I plan for? I’m traveling in May.
Thanks!
Hi there,
My trip to South Africa is starting to take shape.
However, I'm struggling to figure out the route through Kruger Park. I can't seem to find the information I need about getting around.
Coming from the south, I plan to arrive on Day 1 in the early afternoon at Malelane or Crocodile Bridge.
Do some shopping in Malelane (or Crocodile Bridge main area) and stay overnight outside the park.
Leave on Day 2 at 5 AM for the park. Explore the southern part of the park.
Stay overnight around Skukuza or Lower Sabie. (We don’t want to stay in one of the park’s big camps. We’re looking for a lodge around 200 €.
Head out on Day 3 for a self-drive safari, maybe as far as Orpen.
We’d like to stay in a private reserve on nights 4 and 5.
We’re not sure which one or how to get into a private reserve. Do we need to exit Kruger Park?
On Day 5, we’d like to leave to visit Blyde Canyon (on Day 6).
Could you help us with these different locations?
Thanks
Could you help us with these different locations?
Thanks

