Info on Thai Airways / Air France business class
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Direct flights PAR / BKK in business class: AIR FRANCE or THAI AIRWAYS – prices, comfort. Thanks a bunch!
PA Patrick91230 Globetrotter ·
Good evening You also have Air Calin now, with a direct flight to Bangkok from CDG.

Hibiscus Business Class | Aircalin
Cordialement, Patrick.
DE Dennis2 Regular ·
Hello, thanks for the Aircalin info on the direct CDG/BKK flight!

Well, given the prices, it won’t be for me, but you never know—things might change!
DE Delphy83 Regular ·
Prices vary depending on travel dates, ranging from 2600 € to over 6000 €
PA Patrick91230 Globetrotter ·
For a direct flight, it’s gonna hurt starting from CDG—it’s around 3000 €/3200 € per person. The cheapest business class options are usually the Chinese airlines, but with one stop, or the Italian airline ITA, also with one stop.
Cordialement, Patrick.
AR Aroythai Globetrotter ·
On a direct flight, it’s gonna hurt—around 3000 €/3200 € per person from CDG. The cheapest business class tickets are usually the Chinese airlines, but with one stop, or the Italian airline ITA with a stop as well.

Hi,

The fares are more like between 3800 € and 4500 € for AIR FRANCE.
aroythai
PA Patrick91230 Globetrotter ·
Hi there,

Yes, all periods and AF promotions. But even with direct flights, it’s still really expensive. With a layover, prices drop by more than 1000 €/1500 € compared to AF—same with ITA, Chinese airlines, or Air India.
Cordialement, Patrick.
AR Aroythai Globetrotter ·
Hello,

Yes, all periods and AF promotions. But on direct flights, it’s still very expensive. With a layover, prices drop by more than 1000 €/1500 € compared to AF, like with ITA, Chinese airlines, or Air India.

The original question is about direct flights, so AF and THAI.

I used to fly Emirates too—back then, it was more interesting than AF. Now it’s around 5000 €.
aroythai
PA Patrick91230 Globetrotter ·
Yeah, I gave up on Emirates a long time ago. I get that the request is for a direct flight, but when you want a direct flight from CDG, you don’t really look at the price. 😉
Cordialement, Patrick.
AR Aroythai Globetrotter ·
Hi there, Regarding the schedules for both airlines:

Thai Airways: CDG: 1:40 PM - BKK: 5:55 AM BKK: 12:05 AM - CDG: 7:10 AM

Air France: CDG: 3:45 PM – BKK: 9:15 AM BKK: 11:30 AM - CDG: 6:50 PM

For Thai Airways, the return flight is at 12:05 AM, so it’s actually the next day, even if you arrive at the airport at 9:00 PM. Some travelers have gotten mixed up with this schedule.

For Air France, the flight is at 11:30 AM, so it’s a daytime flight—still pretty long, though. A few years ago, the return flight was at 11:00 PM, almost the same as Thai Airways’ schedule.
aroythai
DE Delphy83 Regular ·
On Wednesdays and Saturdays, Air Calin also operates a direct flight.

CDG: 10:00 PM - BKK: 2:50 PM (next day) BKK: 9:50 AM - CDG: 5:35 PM

For May and June fares with Air France, you can find tickets for under 3,500 €—for example, from May 14 to 28.
PA Patrick91230 Globetrotter ·
Personally, I’d rather make a stopover and pay 30% to 40% less for business class. It’s a choice!
Cordialement, Patrick.
DE Delphy83 Regular ·
Same for us—we never leave from Paris since we live near Lyon personally. All the business class tickets we’ve bought in recent years have cost us less than 2000 € with a layover in either Zurich or Amsterdam, etc. You’ve got to look for cheaper routes, often departing from northern Europe.
PA Patrick91230 Globetrotter ·
Absolutely, for Asia, if I travel business class, I often leave from Budapest where I find tickets between 1200 and 1300 € depending on the dates with Chinese airlines or LOT. I have time now so it doesn’t bother me. It also lets me earn a ton of extra miles—I got a direct round-trip ticket to Seoul with LOT for 1050 € in business, and I added a round-trip Paris/Budapest in economy for 150 €.

Plus, since March 1st, airfares for flights departing from France have skyrocketed.
Cordialement, Patrick.
TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
Absolutely, for Asia, if I'm traveling business class, I often leave from Budapest where I find tickets between 1200 € and 1300 € depending on the dates with Chinese airlines or LOT. I have time now so it doesn’t bother me. It saves me a ton of miles, plus I once got a direct round-trip ticket to Seoul with LOT for 1050 € in business, and I added a round-trip Paris/Budapest in economy for 150 €;

Yes, of course. You shouldn’t hesitate to look at Warsaw, Budapest, or even Amsterdam sometimes for business-class flights that aren’t really more expensive than simple economy flights from Paris. Paris is completely out of the running—even more so with the recent surcharges, which are economically questionable and just push people to spend their money elsewhere. With just a few long-haul business flights, you can reach Star Alliance Gold status, especially if you pick the right program—Turkish or Aegean, for example.

Michel
AR Aroythai Globetrotter ·
Absolutely, for Asia, if I'm traveling business class, I often leave from Budapest where I find tickets between 1200 € and 1300 € depending on the dates with Chinese airlines or LOT. I have time now so it doesn’t bother me. It saves me a ton of miles too—I got a direct round-trip ticket to Seoul with LOT for 1050 € in business, and I added a round-trip Paris/Budapest in economy for 150 €;

Yes, of course. You shouldn’t hesitate to look at Warsaw, Budapest, or even Amsterdam sometimes for business class flights that aren’t really more expensive than simple economy flights from Paris. Paris is completely out of the running, even more so with the recent surcharges—economically questionable measures that just push people to spend their money elsewhere. With just a few long-haul business flights, you can reach Star Alliance Gold status, especially if you choose the right program—Turkish or Aegean, for example.

Michel

Good evening,

Personally, I live in Paris, so I can’t really see myself leaving from somewhere else.

From CDG, pretty much all airlines are available, as are the prices. I regularly check reviews on business class for flights to Bangkok—some of them are pretty wild.

Here are my preferences (based on experience, no particular order):

Emirates Qatar Oman Air France
aroythai
TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
Good evening Gilbert,

Personally, I live in Paris—I can’t really imagine leaving from anywhere else

It’s psychological 🙂. Anyway, to leave from Paris, I have to travel 550 km, so if you don’t have to go that far, you’ve got plenty of airports to choose from. Especially since from Paris, there are super cheap low-cost flights to lots of hubs—way cheaper than a simple TGV ticket from Brittany to Montparnasse. It’s been several years since I’ve flown out of Paris much; no matter the cost, I prefer to use airports that are more commercially attractive. I personally feel like I’m doing a good deed—it’s probably a bit silly, but that’s just how it is.

Michel
AR Aroythai Globetrotter ·
Hi Gilbert,

Personally, I live in Paris—I can’t imagine leaving from anywhere else

It’s psychological 🙂.

I personally feel like I’m doing a good deed; it’s probably a bit silly, but that’s just how it is.

Michel

I have friends who regularly travel to Thailand—some are from the Lyon area and others from the Alpes-Maritimes. They take their flights from Lyon and Nice and are really happy to depart from Lyon Saint-Exupéry or Nice Côte d'Azur. A long time ago, everyone had to go up to Paris
aroythai
PA Patrick91230 Globetrotter ·
The tax increases on business-class flights over 5,500 km departing from metropolitan French airports are staggering.

Personally, I prefer Budapest, Barcelona, Madrid, Rome, or Milan, where business-class flights are much cheaper than in France—unless there’s a promo, of course.
Cordialement, Patrick.
AR Aroythai Globetrotter ·
The tax increases on business-class flights over 5,500 km departing from mainland French airports are staggering.

Personally, I prefer Budapest, Barcelona, Madrid, Rome, or Milan, where business-class flights are much cheaper than in France—unless there’s a promo, of course.

Good evening,

All this doesn’t answer the question asked by the person about choosing between Air France and Thai Airways. We’re getting off topic.
aroythai
PA Patrick91230 Globetrotter ·
No worries, everyone will have understood. 😉
Cordialement, Patrick.
MU Muriel18 Globetrotter ·
Hello

All of this doesn’t answer the question asked by the person about choosing between Air France and Thai Airways

I’m still wondering why this person asked the question (in such a casual way) on a forum instead of checking the relevant websites themselves to get the prices they’re interested in (prices that will also vary depending on dates they didn’t specify) .

We’re getting off-topic

Since this person hasn’t chimed in again (even though they’ve logged in), I don’t know if the topic is still relevant 😉
Si tu diffères de moi, mon frère, loin de me léser, tu m'enrichis (Saint Exupéry)
AR Aroythai Globetrotter ·
Hello

All of this doesn’t answer the question asked by the person about choosing between Air France and Thai Airways

I’m still wondering why this person asked the question (in such a casual way) on a forum instead of checking the relevant websites themselves for the prices they’re interested in (prices that will also vary depending on dates they didn’t specify) 🤪.

We’re getting off topic

Since this person hasn’t chimed in again (even though they’ve logged in), I don’t know if the topic is still relevant 😉

Hello, To answer your question: We’re on a forum where anyone can ask whatever comes to mind. It’s not new that the person who asked doesn’t respond to the replies they get—it happens on all forums and Facebook pages too. The question wasn’t just about price but also about comfort. I don’t mind answering even if the person who started the discussion doesn’t respond. That’s what keeps this forum alive, especially after it was suspended for several long months. Anyway, happy travels and enjoy your future adventures!
aroythai

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