Breathtaking Kyrgyzstan!
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PE Perju Globetrotter ·
For the record, corruption ranking of the belligerents: Ukraine 104th, Russia 157th.

More manipulation... 😇 with a smiley in case you come back this way... Either way, I like rooting for the Ukrainians 😏
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Kyrgyzstan is in 142nd place...

The Soviet legacy.
CH Chalembert Regular ·
Can't argue with that, this is truly a cultural forum: taphophilia, I'd never come across that word until today :)
MO Montagnard74 Globetrotter ·
Be that as it may, I love messing with the Ukrainians 😏

As much as making Danish cyclists crash at the roundabout behind the house? 😄

I want the photo with the Cochonou bucket hat 😉
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Sticking with the two-wheeled theme, I take my hat off to those who dare to cycle through Kyrgyzstan!

Elevation gain, dust, wind, rain, or scorching sun—it’s all part of the adventure.

Once the Chinese finish their construction projects, the Tour of Kyrgyzstan will become a must-do race with its mountain passes and telegenic landscapes!

For now, it’d be more like an extreme mountain-biking competition...

I don’t see the Cochonou cap catching on out there, though...

Gonna need to find other sponsors!
PE Perju Globetrotter ·
Actually, they flew just 100 meters above my place... and it was still in one piece then 😏 In the morning, I went for a mountain bike ride on the Bornes plateau... I crossed the road above Arbu, near the sign marking the summit... I got scared... already hundreds of people by 11 AM.... So, I went back home, set up a few tables and chairs, and raided the Intermarché... sold 500,000 beers and made the most of my afternoon 😏
TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
Hello,

Since you're chatting about generalities and stepping away from strict narrative, I’ll do the same. The concept of corruption is pretty vague, and the indices you’re referring to—and others here too—reflect measurable, quantitative elements, sure, but also more subjective and cultural ones. There are tangible aspects, like evaluations of existing laws (or lack thereof), public markets, and how contracts are awarded. The way a state’s corruption is measured is done by investigators who have their own ideas and conceptions of what it is. They see it through the lens of their education and training. Cultural norms influence judgment, and those investigating do so with their own norms in mind. It just so happens that our society has become more radicalized in recent years with a kind of business puritanism, which sometimes might be a bit excessive. What’s shocking here might not be elsewhere—even morally valued elsewhere, like gifts of respect and gratitude. For example. I don’t think there’s a Soviet legacy in this.

Michel
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
At this rate, for a Taliban, the murder of Delphine Jubillar isn’t a murder but just a religious necessity...🤪
CH Chalembert Regular ·
Hey, I live in a country where corruption is common, people go along with it, but it’s not a cultural thing. Even if the word "corruption" isn’t spoken out loud for fear of reprisals, it’s on everyone’s mind.

As for the corruption level indicator, it’s not external investigators making up their own criteria—it’s the same questionnaire given to locals about how they perceive corruption.

In other words, it takes history and culture into account because it’s the people in each country who answer.
TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
Hi,

In this kind of inquiry, what matters isn’t who you ask, but the questions you pose, the assumptions you make, the hypotheses you consider, and how you interpret the data. Sociology and economics aren’t any more axiomatically neutral than other sciences.

Michel
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
It's a bit chilly in the yurt in the morning, but thanks to the stove and the duvet, we didn't feel the cold at all.

For comparison, nights in a tent in Southern Africa are much frostier than nights in a yurt in Kyrgyzstan.

During the months of June, July, and August, of course!

Rain has been pouring down on the lake since we went to bed, the ground is soaked, the sky is overcast, and the sun is nowhere to be seen.

Luckily, there's no fog.

After breakfast is served, we head back on the road toward the west shore of the lake.



The condition of the track isn’t great at all—we really don’t want to get stuck.

So we turn back to the junction for the Moldo-Ashuu Pass, a pass located at 3,346 meters above sea level.

The clouds block the view, and we start descending, hoping for a break in the weather.

A break that never really comes...



What if we stopped over there?

The view looks a bit clearer!



We’re not the only ones who’ve spotted the place—two Kyrgyz families out for a walk have also stopped.

They quickly ask us where we’re from and then ask if they can take photos with us and their family.

A meal is then offered to us, but we decline, saying we’ve just had breakfast and aren’t hungry at all.

We do, however, politely accept a muffin, but we can’t escape before trying *kurut*, that dried fermented cheese with a very strong flavor!

Not bad at all. Too bad it’s not on the tables in guesthouses instead of those weirdly colored cookies that have been sitting there since who knows when...

I forgot to mention this little detail!

When you sit down for dinner or breakfast, the table is covered with kitschy cake stands full of stuff that’s usually unidentifiable.

Rock-hard things in all colors that are supposedly chocolates, pink twists, salty? sweet? biscuits, peanuts, walnuts, raisins...

Champagne coupes and cocktail glasses are used as jam jars, and everything is usually covered with a mosquito net to keep all that food from becoming an all-you-can-eat buffet for flies.

Very appetizing...

But let’s get back to our story!

The road gives way to hairpin turns, and the weather improves a bit.





We spot a small herd in the distance but struggle to tell what kind of animals they are.

We never would’ve imagined coming across camels!



We hit the tarmac again near Jangy-Talap, a village where we’ll be staying in a few days.

Unfortunately, a little further on, the Chinese are at work again, and the RAV4 will be covered in dust all the way to Naryn...

35 kilometers later, we park in front of the lovely hotel we booked in the village of Tash-Bashat and finally take a nice shower.

We stroll through the village, a rural place like many others where the winds of modernity have only reached a few satellite dishes and internet top-up sellers.



Back at our lodging, we notice a fleet of numbered 4x4s has taken over the entire parking lot.

Looks like we won’t be alone at dinner tonight...

The owner then comes to tell us there’s a little get-together planned for the group, one that shouldn’t go past 10:30 PM.

Now I understand why he suggested, a few days earlier, that I change my booking date...

I’m a little worried, but when I see the group’s average age is much closer to 80 than 30, I feel a lot more at ease.

Looking at them, I wonder who’s driving each 4x4. They seem more like they’re heading into a retirement home than being spry sixty-somethings...

I also wonder what’s fun about following a dozen other vehicles on a track, with the ones at the back only seeing the dust cloud kicked up by the ones in front...

Maybe they picture themselves as participants in the last Paris-Dakar (a pretty ridiculous name these days, by the way...)?

To each their own, but I’m noting down the agency’s name so I never sign up with them!

The dinner will be good—a well-cooked *plov* this time!



And the decor is more appealing than those same old tired-looking snacks...



As for the evening, I didn’t hear a thing.

Long live noise-canceling headphones and a good book!

Around 10:00 PM, my partner taps my shoulder and signals for me to take them off.

They’ve been gone for at least 10 minutes!

And apart from one song, the noise from the common room was actually just conversations...
MO Montagnard74 Globetrotter ·
I was a little worried, but when I realized the average age of the group was much closer to 80 than 30, I felt way more at ease.

It reminds me of a Moroccan evening where my host got tricked by a brigade of sixty-somethings. 😉 Always watch out for the oldies! 😄
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
You didn’t see them! 😏

I think Michel was at their table and put them all to sleep...
VO Voyajou Globetrotter ·
Can't argue with that, this really is a cultural forum: taphophilia, I'd never come across that word until today 🙂

It's also a forum where we discuss the sex of angels a lot (not Michel's, neither the painter nor the archangel, mind you).

@Perju

More manipulation...

I would've thought quantum physics led to more rigor... 😉

@Tatra

Sociology and economics aren't any more axiomatically neutral than other sciences.

They're especially much less so. But let's leave it at that.
PE Perju Globetrotter ·
Talking about angels... angelic hymns... you’re being quite mystical this July 😏
PE Perju Globetrotter ·
I remember an amazing descent from Song Kul to Naryn... and then ...after that, a stunning climb up to Tosor Pass... though the rented RAV4 might not have been the best choice. 😏
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
The 33 Parrots Pass is more stunning than Moldo-Ashuu. 😛

As for Tosor, I didn’t feel like buying a RAV4 or renting something twice as expensive just to try to get through...

Especially with all the rain lately. 🤪

I just saw a video where the water level was way above knee-high and there was quite a strong current!

Anyway, this pass is off-limits for pretty much all rental companies—can I borrow your 4x4? 😏
PE Perju Globetrotter ·
I want the photo with the Cochonou hat ;)

If not... 😏 This afternoon... after yesterday's crowds.

AT Attila Globetrotter ·
The wild night left the group exhausted.

They were supposed to leave at 0700, but they still hadn’t had breakfast by the time we were enjoying ours at 08...

So we had to get a 4x4 moved just to get out of the parking lot and head off on new adventures.

Our morning goal: the Kichi-Naryn gorges!

The track follows the tumultuous river, sometimes on the right, sometimes on the left, sometimes at water level, sometimes high above.



The bridges are sturdy and have withstood floods, so we’re making slow but steady progress without too much trouble.

The weather isn’t doing the landscapes any favors, and these gorges won’t be making our trip’s top 5.

We end up turning back long before the planned spot and head to the town of Naryn to refuel.

Now we’re taking the road that eventually leads to China via Torugart—though we’ll be leaving it very soon for a track that winds into stunning red hills.

At least, that’s what our paper guide says...

The track is completely waterlogged, and the RAV4 starts spinning in the mud after just a few dozen meters.



We wisely decide to abandon the exploration—oh well, so much for the red hills!



Miles of tarmac roll by, and soon we catch sight of the ruins of Kochoï-Korgon fortress.

Time has done its work—it’s really hard to imagine what it once looked like...



We’re definitely not having much luck today!
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Well, then...

We spot the 4x4 convoy from yesterday—one of the vehicles seems to be broken down.

I don’t know where they were supposed to sleep, but judging by the direction the group took, it’s not where we’re headed!

So we leave the main road for a lovely track following the Tash-Rabat river.

Tash-Rabat? Like the caravanserai?

Yes! It shouldn’t be too far now.

The track leads to a large parking lot, with a corrugated metal shed standing to the right.



We’re a year too late—the caravanserai was recently wrapped to withstand the elements that were damaging it.

And not by Christo...

How ugly!

I hope the restoration of this stunning 15th-century inn will be completed one day, but for now, the work seems to be at a standstill...

We’re genuinely disappointed, but we quickly shake off that negative feeling thanks to the scenery around us.

Despite the leaden sky, the landscapes are gorgeous. We drive slowly, following the canyon to our campsite.



The yurt is deluxe tonight, with an en-suite bathroom.

But the setting feels a bit gloomy, and in the end, we prefer the one we rented at Son-Kul, even without amenities.





Especially since those amenities aren’t available 24/7...

You have to turn on the generator and open the tank valves, and the person in charge hasn’t arrived yet.

While we wait, we head out to stretch our legs and snap endless photos of the mountains, meadows, and animals.









Back at the campsite, we’re warmly welcomed—the best reception of the whole trip by far!

From the cook to the fire attendant, the whole team is of Russian origin. I won’t draw any conclusions from that.

No miracle at dinner, though—we weren’t blown away by the breaded chicken thigh served...

Goodnight under the duvet; tonight, we’re sleeping at just over 3,000 meters.

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