Premier grand tour à vélo: Alsace - sud
by Sabrinaldi
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjours à tous. Alors voilà j'ai 18 ans et avec un ami on aimerait cet été aller dans le sud à vélo (seulement l'aller)
On a cette idée depuis quelque temps en tête on aimerait se lancer. Seulement on a aucune idées de par où commencer, du matériel essentiel à avoir, du trajet à effectuer etc... Pouvez vous nous faire part de votre expérience? Nous vous en serions très reconnaissant.
merci d'avance.
🙂 Bonjour , qu'avez vous comme vélo ? Votre itinéraire ? Voies vertes ? Voies secondaires ? Vos nuitées , camping ? Hôtels ? Gîtes ? Ce qui implique : Sacoches ? Remorque ? Afin de tenter de vous aider , pourriez vous nous en dire plus ? Il faut prendre en compte que suivant les montures que vous chevaucherez il faudra " adapter " votre itinéraire, par exemple , avec des vélos type course ou demi course , pas question de voies vertes autres qu'asphaltées , en vtc , choix plus large, en tandem , bagagerie un peu différente, voir remorque si camping ou sacoches ar + av.
Donnez nous + de détails et vous aurez une foule de conseils de la part de tous nos " vieux " routards du forum, vous verrez vous avez tapé à la bonne porte , sur v.forum.... il y a des " pros ".
Cordialement.
Salut à toi future voyageuse de l'extrême !
Ce que vous entreprenez de faire avec ton ami et vraiment un projet sympa mais ce n'est pas aussi facile qu'il n'y parait...
Premièrement, de l'Alsace vers le sud çà veus dire successivement les vosges, le jura, les alpes... joli programme lorsque l'on a les jambes pour monter les cols chargés (tente, couchage, popottes, vêtements, alimentation, entretien du vélo...).
En revanche, si on veut eviter d'avoir à grimper, alors bjr les longues nationales et leurs voitures qui te frolent sans cesse.
Quant à passer par des petites départementales, il n'y en a pas toujours et çà rallonge pas mal le trajet (pour indication, compte entre 60 et 90km par jour, au dessus, ce ne serait plus des vacances).
Deuxièmement, relativement au matériel que vous comptez utiliser, n'oubliez pas que vous aurez peut-être la pluie et donc qu'il faut choisir des textiles appropriés (sacoches protégées et vêtements qui sèchent rapidement).
Là, j'ai essentiellement axé mes remarques sur les eventuelles galères (la pluie et les bagnoles, c'est le pire..;), le reste, c'est que du bonheur... Voyager à son rythme, découvrir de nouveaux paysages, rencontrer de nouvelles personnes, gouter aux spécialités locales etc...
Bonne route à tous les deux. n'hésitez pas à poser d'autres questions, même plus précises.
Là, j'ai essentiellement axé mes remarques sur les eventuelles galères (la pluie et les bagnoles, c'est le pire..;), le reste, c'est que du bonheur... Voyager à son rythme, découvrir de nouveaux paysages, rencontrer de nouvelles personnes, gouter aux spécialités locales etc...
Bonne route à tous les deux. n'hésitez pas à poser d'autres questions, même plus précises.
Côté trajet, la seule chose à éviter, c'est les grands axes .... sur l'Alsace, il existe les itinéraires "vélos", souvent fléchés et évitant les nationales .... mais sinon .... il reste à étudier, sur carte (ou sur des sites style "routeyou" ...) des itinéraires sur des petites routes ... touristiques, mais souvent moins "roulantes" .... mais il vaut mieux faire de petites étapes, mettre un jour de + ou aller un peu moins loin que de se retrouver calé sur l'extrême droite d'une nationale principalement fréquentée par des camions circulant à la vitesse limite (ou plus... j'ai qqsfois subi le déplacement d'air d'un 39 t circulant à près de 100 km/h - impressionnant ...) !!!
Pour moi, j'essaierais, après l'Alsace, les plateaux du Doubs et du Jura, les vallées de l'Ain et du "haut" Rhône pour rejoindre le secteur de Vienne (38) puis, suivre grosso-modo l'itinéraire "bis" vers ORANGE ... ensuite, à voir en fonction de votre destination finale ...
Pour le matos, j'utilise actuellement un ex-VTT doté d'une fourche fixe et chaussé de pneus de 1 ou 1,2 pouce (25 / 30 mm) mais il n'y a pas de règle .... le seul pb actuellement est que les vélos de route "modernes" n'ont pas d'attaches pour (ou ne peuvent plus recevoir) les portes bagages utiles ... Si pas équipé, il faut peut-être regarder du côté de l'occasion !!!
Pour l'équipement, prévoir la pluie .. bien sûr et ensuite, à voir en fonction du mode d'hébergement choisi, du budget .... Bonne préparation
Pour le matos, j'utilise actuellement un ex-VTT doté d'une fourche fixe et chaussé de pneus de 1 ou 1,2 pouce (25 / 30 mm) mais il n'y a pas de règle .... le seul pb actuellement est que les vélos de route "modernes" n'ont pas d'attaches pour (ou ne peuvent plus recevoir) les portes bagages utiles ... Si pas équipé, il faut peut-être regarder du côté de l'occasion !!!
Pour l'équipement, prévoir la pluie .. bien sûr et ensuite, à voir en fonction du mode d'hébergement choisi, du budget .... Bonne préparation
michel mathieu
www.lethieu39.fr
Variante d'itinéraire : Traversée du Jura suisse, rejoindre les lacs de Bienne et Neuchâtel, longer le Léman, Genève, Seyssel, Voiron, vallée de l'Isère, Crest, Grignan, ...
Si vous voulez passer par la Suisse, regardez éventuellement www.suissemobile.ch pour des propositions d'itinéraires vélo loin des grands axes (mais parfois assez exigeants en termes de dénivelé).
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Thanks.
Hi there,
I’m planning to ride the Dutch section of the EuroVelo 19, from Maastricht to Rotterdam.
Since it’s too complicated to bring my bike on the train, I’m looking to rent one locally.
I’d love any tips or bike rental shop recommendations—I’m struggling to find options even in Rotterdam.
The plan is to rent in Rotterdam, take the train to Maastricht with the bike, then cycle back to Rotterdam.
Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions!
Nath
Coming soon:
https://www.Biclou.com/parcours/durance/
Starting from Faverges: 900 km over 9 days

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Hi there,
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance