Les mythes touristiques
by GeorgesOZ
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Salut Georges,
Une heresie, une abomination..
Ca fait longtemps qu en Italie, trouver une"vraie'pizza est un challenge.
Valerie
Au rayon des mythes du voyageur, je voudrais citer les pyramides de Gizeh en plein désert. Image d’Épinal de l'Egypte fantasmée. La grande pyramide est à moins de 200m des premiers immeubles du Caire. …. Mais Gizeh quelle arnaque !
Ah, bien vu, c'est vrai que les photos ne montrent jamais la ville qui est effectivement juste là. Mais ça reste quand-même qqc d'unique et à voir quand on va au Caire, non?
Parlant du Caire, "le Nil majestueux" n'est en tout cas pas un mythe. Il m'avait beaucoup impressionné, coupant la ville en deux.
Ah, bien vu, c'est vrai que les photos ne montrent jamais la ville qui est effectivement juste là. Mais ça reste quand-même qqc d'unique et à voir quand on va au Caire, non?
Parlant du Caire, "le Nil majestueux" n'est en tout cas pas un mythe. Il m'avait beaucoup impressionné, coupant la ville en deux.
Je ne conteste pas que ces poupées fassent partie du patrimoine artisanal russe! Il n'en demeure pas moins qu'il y a des Russes qui sont agacés que l'on réduise leur artisanat à cela. Et on en voit des quantités industrielles de plus ou moins bonne qualité dans les boutiques de souvenirs de Moscou et SP, comme les tours Eiffel à Paris!
Salut Damien,
Meme si les pyramides etaient en pleine ville, ce qui va arriver, ca ne me debecte pas, ou va au sud vers saqarrah et autres.
Quand nous y étions allés il y a près de quarante ans, ces pyramides étaient encore, non pas "en plein désert", mais en bordure du désert. Aujourd'hui la tentaculaire métropole cairote a grignoté ledit désert, si bien que pour la photo, il faut travailler le cadrage ou se livrer à des retouches pour faire perdurer le mythe. 😉
Salut Georges,
Une heresie, une abomination..
Ca fait longtemps qu en Italie, trouver une"vraie'pizza est un challenge.
Valerie
Où va le monde...… Ne parlons pas de la misère que tant de restaurants Parisiens osent servir! 😕
Résidence au Botswana? Voilà qui est original! 🙂
Où va le monde...… Ne parlons pas de la misère que tant de restaurants Parisiens osent servir! 😕
Résidence au Botswana? Voilà qui est original! 🙂
Ça fait longtemps qu'en Italie, trouver une"vraie pizza" est un challenge.
Il faut aller a l'Antica Pizzeria da Michele à Naples, Via Cesare Sersale. Ce très ancien établissement ne paie pas de mine, mais on y fait de véritables pizzas traditionnelles, sans fioritures et les client y font la queue, c'est dire! http://www.damichele.net/
Il faut aller a l'Antica Pizzeria da Michele à Naples, Via Cesare Sersale. Ce très ancien établissement ne paie pas de mine, mais on y fait de véritables pizzas traditionnelles, sans fioritures et les client y font la queue, c'est dire! http://www.damichele.net/
Est ce que seule la photo compte?
Salut
Je me souviens de la pizzeria ou nous allions a Verone apres la representation des arenes mais bon ca fait 40 ans..
aller a Naples a 6000 km, pas une option.
Certes
BONJOUR!
Je parle des photos présentées sur les catalogues des TO !
Je parle des photos présentées sur les catalogues des TO !
La pizza est d'origine napolitaine, me semble-t-il.
Bon, je sors. 😛
exact , je dis toujours que n'importe quel fourgon de pizza de Provence qui s'installerait à côté d'une pizzeria en Italie lui ferait perdre tous ses clients
la pizza c'est Napolitain
completement inconnue au nord de Naples avant la guerre ( par coontre très connue aux USA et à Marseille ) , ce sont les soldats américains ( qui connaissaient ) qui en ont réclamé à Rome
plus au nord , en Toscane et dans le nord , des restaurateurs ont fini par en faire àla demande des touristes étrangers ; dans les années 60 , pas la moindre pizzeria à 30 km à la ronde dans le village de Toscane où j'allais en vacances alors que tous les villages de Provence en avaient au moins une
Et le mythe de l’herbe est plus verte en face comme chantait l’autre “là-bas” qui se démène contre celui qui contait “auprès de mon arbre, je vivais heureux”...vaste débat surtout quand on vient d’un beau coin de la France...en tous cas, il y en a bien un de mythe qui s’est effondré devant mes yeux ici en Amérique du Nord, c’est celui de la spécificité française ou de cette fameuse French Touch...
Et le mythe de l’herbe est plus verte en face comme chantait l’autre “là-bas” qui se démène contre celui qui contait “auprès de mon arbre, je vivais heureux”...vaste débat surtout quand on vient d’un beau coin de la France...en tous cas, il y en a bien un de mythe qui s’est effondré devant mes yeux ici en Amérique du Nord, c’est celui de la spécificité française ou de cette fameuse French Touch...
Deux mythes donc:
"L'herbe est plus verte en face" "La spécificité Française" en Amérique du Nord
Le premier de ces deux mythes est bien connu et nous savons tous que ce n’est bien souvent qu’un mythe. C’est à rapprocher de ce que disait Michant au message 37 (page 2):
“Parmi les valeurs véhiculées par la littérature, le tourisme et la publicité, il y a la quête de «l’ailleurs», de l’altérité, du dépaysement, au sens premier du terme, c'est-à-dire le besoin de sortir de son pays. »
Le besoin de « l’ailleurs », ou le besoin d’évasion : nous sommes nombreux à éprouver ce besoin. C’est dans la nature humaine, en tout cas chez « l’homme moderne » car je ne pense pas que ce besoin soit ressenti dans les cultures « traditionnelles ».
Dans la culture Lao du nord-est de la Thaïlande, les villageois sont le plus souvent parfaitement heureux de leur environnement qui est somme toute assez harmonieux. 🙂 C’est l’intrusion du monde moderne qui pousse les gens à aller voir ailleurs : trouver du travail qui paie plus.
Besoin probablement pas connu non plus dans les cultures dites « primitives ». J’avais lu un livre sur les Indiens Yanomami (Amazonie) : il n’y avait pas le moindre signe du désir d’aller voir ailleurs.
Arrivait-il à l’homme de Cro-Magnon de rêver que la vie était plus rose dans d’autres cavernes ? 😉
Ce mythe et ce besoin sont aussi à rapprocher du mythe « c’était mieux avant ». Le besoin d’évasion n’est pas seulement spatial, mais aussi temporel. En fait, tout cela retombe sur le besoin de vivre dans un autre monde, et si on ne peut pas le faire, alors on peut s’évader dans le rêve. D’où la popularité de la science-fiction et de la fantaisie-fiction. D’où l’usage de drogues diverses.
Pourquoi ne sommes-nous pas satisfaits de notre lot ??? 😇
Ce serait bien si tu pouvais élaborer sur ce deuxième mythe, celui de "La spécificité Française" en Amérique du Nord. 🙂
Deux mythes donc:
"L'herbe est plus verte en face" "La spécificité Française" en Amérique du Nord
Le premier de ces deux mythes est bien connu et nous savons tous que ce n’est bien souvent qu’un mythe. C’est à rapprocher de ce que disait Michant au message 37 (page 2):
“Parmi les valeurs véhiculées par la littérature, le tourisme et la publicité, il y a la quête de «l’ailleurs», de l’altérité, du dépaysement, au sens premier du terme, c'est-à-dire le besoin de sortir de son pays. »
Le besoin de « l’ailleurs », ou le besoin d’évasion : nous sommes nombreux à éprouver ce besoin. C’est dans la nature humaine, en tout cas chez « l’homme moderne » car je ne pense pas que ce besoin soit ressenti dans les cultures « traditionnelles ».
Dans la culture Lao du nord-est de la Thaïlande, les villageois sont le plus souvent parfaitement heureux de leur environnement qui est somme toute assez harmonieux. 🙂 C’est l’intrusion du monde moderne qui pousse les gens à aller voir ailleurs : trouver du travail qui paie plus.
Besoin probablement pas connu non plus dans les cultures dites « primitives ». J’avais lu un livre sur les Indiens Yanomami (Amazonie) : il n’y avait pas le moindre signe du désir d’aller voir ailleurs.
Arrivait-il à l’homme de Cro-Magnon de rêver que la vie était plus rose dans d’autres cavernes ? 😉
Ce mythe et ce besoin sont aussi à rapprocher du mythe « c’était mieux avant ». Le besoin d’évasion n’est pas seulement spatial, mais aussi temporel. En fait, tout cela retombe sur le besoin de vivre dans un autre monde, et si on ne peut pas le faire, alors on peut s’évader dans le rêve. D’où la popularité de la science-fiction et de la fantaisie-fiction. D’où l’usage de drogues diverses.
Pourquoi ne sommes-nous pas satisfaits de notre lot ??? 😇
Ce serait bien si tu pouvais élaborer sur ce deuxième mythe, celui de "La spécificité Française" en Amérique du Nord. 🙂
Excellent et merci d’avoir pris le temps de me répondre toujours avec le style et l’élégance...j avais bien aimé ce carnet de voyage qui t’avait poussé “presque jusqu’en Inde” si je me souviens et tu y étais retourné par la suite me semble t-is ... Inde où je suis allé deux fois au milieu des années 90 fin de ma dizaine et début de ma vingtaine..et qui me berçait jusqu’à dernièrement...
Pour répondre à ta question, sur la spécificité française, je dirais qu’il y a des spécificités et non pas une spécificité française et que cette sauce du “ à la française” est hautaine, nombriliste ou révolue à l’ heure de la mondialisation... quelques anecdotes pourraient agrémenter ce constat : lorsque je couvrais des événements, j’ avais constaté lors de discussions que pour certains, la France se limitait à la bonne cuisine...frappant, l absence de véhicules français en Amérique du Nord, je me suis renseigné sur la question et il s’avère que c’est l’absence de réseaux de distribution pour maintenir les véhicules qui avait détruit l’image de marque des automobiles françaises....en d’autres terme la qualité de service, service qui par ici est vraiment pris en considération lorsque que l’on interagit dans une administration ou même à une pompe à essence...sans compter les valeurs de la France, il est frappant comme chacun ici est considéré au nom d’une certaine justice je ne dis pas que le tableau est tout rose à ce niveau là mais je dois reconnaître qu’il y a une différence...pour pousser sur un autre sujet, l’accueil et la discussion, on prend le temps d’échanger un brin sans considération autre...je sais que ce point là est à débat mais attention je ne dénigre pas... il y a d’autres aspects qui pourraient être étayés...on parle souvent de la French touch au niveau du design, oui, il existe bien à un niveau commercial mais lorsque l’on observe la jeunesse asiatique (chinoise, coréenne), on se pose vraiment des questions sur la démocratisation du luxe français en France...
Pour répondre à ta question, sur la spécificité française, je dirais qu’il y a des spécificités et non pas une spécificité française et que cette sauce du “ à la française” est hautaine, nombriliste ou révolue à l’ heure de la mondialisation... quelques anecdotes pourraient agrémenter ce constat : lorsque je couvrais des événements, j’ avais constaté lors de discussions que pour certains, la France se limitait à la bonne cuisine...frappant, l absence de véhicules français en Amérique du Nord, je me suis renseigné sur la question et il s’avère que c’est l’absence de réseaux de distribution pour maintenir les véhicules qui avait détruit l’image de marque des automobiles françaises....en d’autres terme la qualité de service, service qui par ici est vraiment pris en considération lorsque que l’on interagit dans une administration ou même à une pompe à essence...sans compter les valeurs de la France, il est frappant comme chacun ici est considéré au nom d’une certaine justice je ne dis pas que le tableau est tout rose à ce niveau là mais je dois reconnaître qu’il y a une différence...pour pousser sur un autre sujet, l’accueil et la discussion, on prend le temps d’échanger un brin sans considération autre...je sais que ce point là est à débat mais attention je ne dénigre pas... il y a d’autres aspects qui pourraient être étayés...on parle souvent de la French touch au niveau du design, oui, il existe bien à un niveau commercial mais lorsque l’on observe la jeunesse asiatique (chinoise, coréenne), on se pose vraiment des questions sur la démocratisation du luxe français en France...
Excellent et merci d’avoir pris le temps de me répondre toujours avec le style et l’élégance...j avais bien aimé ce carnet de voyage qui t’avait poussé “presque jusqu’en Inde” si je me souviens et tu y étais retourné par la suite ..
Flatteur! 😉🙂 L'Inde: j'ai fait 4 voyages, bien 6 mois en tout. Je ne crois pas jamais avoir écrit dessus, ça me prendrait une éternité!
La French Touch et le luxe à la Française etc.... Intéressant ce mythe (vécu chez les non-Français), très commercial. Et oui, on voit cette image "frenchie" en Asie peut-être plus qu'en France - il y a bien l'idée du mythe là.
Il y a aussi le mythe de la France : - politiquement engagée = libertés, droits de l'homme, tenir tête aux Anglo-Saxons etc, - intellectuelle et culturelle : un phare
très présent en Amérique Latine, ce mythe, je crois.
Flatteur! 😉🙂 L'Inde: j'ai fait 4 voyages, bien 6 mois en tout. Je ne crois pas jamais avoir écrit dessus, ça me prendrait une éternité!
La French Touch et le luxe à la Française etc.... Intéressant ce mythe (vécu chez les non-Français), très commercial. Et oui, on voit cette image "frenchie" en Asie peut-être plus qu'en France - il y a bien l'idée du mythe là.
Il y a aussi le mythe de la France : - politiquement engagée = libertés, droits de l'homme, tenir tête aux Anglo-Saxons etc, - intellectuelle et culturelle : un phare
très présent en Amérique Latine, ce mythe, je crois.
Flatteur! 😉🙂
L'Inde: j'ai fait 4 voyages, bien 6 mois en tout. Je ne crois pas jamais avoir écrit dessus, ça me prendrait une éternité!
Pour vrai, j avais vraiment apprécié la manière dont tu retraçais ton parcours jusqu’au Pakistan ...enfin il me semble dans ce carnet là tu avais évoqué que tu y étais allé par la suite...ca serait vraiment génial si tu pouvais le faire ce carnet...
très présent en Amérique Latine, ce mythe, je crois.
J avais suivi tes pérégrinations au Mexique où en Colombie...je ne sais plus...avec ton Grand...
Pour vrai, j avais vraiment apprécié la manière dont tu retraçais ton parcours jusqu’au Pakistan ...enfin il me semble dans ce carnet là tu avais évoqué que tu y étais allé par la suite...ca serait vraiment génial si tu pouvais le faire ce carnet...
très présent en Amérique Latine, ce mythe, je crois.
J avais suivi tes pérégrinations au Mexique où en Colombie...je ne sais plus...avec ton Grand...
Oui, c'était bien en Colombie et j'y étais allé avec mon fils. J'ai encore à terminer ce récit…. Ces derniers temps, c'est un récit sur un voyage plus récent au Mexique qui m'occupe. 🙂
Pause midi sur la route entre Reggio d'Émilie et Modène en mai 2019 :
Pizza aux artichauts à 5 € sur table dans un restaurant fréquenté par les routiers qui ne prennent pas l'autoroute.
Excellente et pas chère, c'est toujours ça l'Italie.
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Photo persoGeorges G.
(Mes commentaires et mes photos sont issus de mon vécu réel,
mes peintures, elles, de mes souvenirs fantasmés)
Ta photo me fais rebondir sur un mythe, si tu me permets Georges...celui de l’Italie qui se résume à une boîte ( de pâtes )....je trouve qu’en Italie les gens ont une culture de l’Art très raffinée..voir plus raffinée..pour exemple, et pour rester dans le cadre de cette photo, dans certains restaurants, on peut avoir un chanteur d’opérette, un cantator ou cantatrice, qui reprend des classiques italiens, le temps d’un repas et puis les artistes classiques italiens sont nombreux comparativement....c est énorme la contribution de l’Italie...oui on le sait tous à travers la Renaissance mais la je parle de vivification encore présente de nos jours...qui ne se résume pas à des cours au collège ou au lycée...
Salut Georges,
Specifite Francaise en Amerique du nord, peut tu developper?
D'accord pour l'art (qu'on ne limitera pas à la Renaissance qui se finit au XVIe).
Pour moi qui suis artiste-peintre et qui découvrant l'Italie en 2003, ne peux se retenir de parcourir tous ses lieux de culture (20 fois à Florence, autant à Sienne, dans toute la Toscane et maintenant dans toutes les villes du Nord ) chacune ville possédant son histoire, son Castello du centre ville, son Duomo, ses promenades et ses musées, sa cuisine particulière (je n'ai découvert la mostarda di Cremona accompagnant le tout autant surprenant bollisto misto de Modène qu'en 2019).
S'il fallait limiter l'Italie à une boîte de pâtes laquelle serait-elle ? Chaque région en possédant qui restent inconnues des autres Italiens. D'ailleurs toutes les variations de pâtes m'ont inspiré en son temps (2012) une série de tableaux prenant au mot leurs désignations imagées.
S'il fallait limiter l'Italie à une boîte de pâtes laquelle serait-elle ? Chaque région en possédant qui restent inconnues des autres Italiens. D'ailleurs toutes les variations de pâtes m'ont inspiré en son temps (2012) une série de tableaux prenant au mot leurs désignations imagées.
Georges G.
(Mes commentaires et mes photos sont issus de mon vécu réel,
mes peintures, elles, de mes souvenirs fantasmés)
Effectivement, on oublie que l’Italie est une fédération ou plutôt une aggrégation si je peux dire cela comme ça de républiques et de contés...avec des langues diverses...on l’oublie pour certains ou on ne le sait pas, pour d’autres...
Salut Georges,
Specifite Francaise en Amerique du nord, peut tu developper?
C'est Pistache qui avait lancé ça et je lui avais d'ailleurs demandé s'il pouvait élaborer. Il l' a peut-être fait entretemps, je ne sais plus, ça va si vite parfois et les messages se croisent. On vaque à d'autres occupations, on revient reprendre le fil et on ne sait plus où on en est!
C'est Pistache qui avait lancé ça et je lui avais d'ailleurs demandé s'il pouvait élaborer. Il l' a peut-être fait entretemps, je ne sais plus, ça va si vite parfois et les messages se croisent. On vaque à d'autres occupations, on revient reprendre le fil et on ne sait plus où on en est!
....c est énorme la contribution de l’Italie… …. je parle de vivification encore présente de nos jours...qui ne se résume pas à des cours au collège ou au lycée...
C'est vrai. Quel pays extraordinaire! Mais tant de pays Européens sont extraordinaires….
C'est vrai. Quel pays extraordinaire! Mais tant de pays Européens sont extraordinaires….
Je ne vois pas trop ou tu veux en venir... Soit tu enfonces des portes ouvertes (oui chaque pays a ses spécificités) soit tu dérives hors-sujet. La French Touch c'est du marketing, c'est pour vendre (dans le luxe, dans la musique, etc) mais ça n'a jamais été un mythe de voyageur à ma connaissance ?
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En fait quand tu voyages ou quand tu es expatrié comme moi, tu te rends compte que le prestige est moins luisant qu’il nous semblait l’être que lorsqu’on si on était resté en France d’où le mythe...et comme l’a dit Georges, du moins en Amérique du Nord où je vis et par extension dans cette guéguerre contemporaine entre les Francs et les Anglo- Saxons....mais je crois que cela ne se limite plus à ces deux camps au vu de la mondialisation...
Et pour rester dans ce contexte, certains Canadiens français m’ont fait part de leur ressentiment vis-à-vis de la France qui célèbre drapeau levé Lafayette et les États-Unis mais qui ont tendance à ne pas transmettre à leurs congénères l’abandon des Français en Nouvelle-France en pleine Bataille avec les Anglais et bien vu de France, cela paraît lointain mais ici saches que c’est toujours present voir omniprésent...ça aussi, ça ternit l’image de l’histoire de France surtout quand tu apprends contre quoi le Royaume de France a échangé une partie des Amériques....ou quand De Gaulle, cette figure française, ravive la flamme du Québec et par la suite file à....
Quand à la French Touch, elle ne se limite pas au marketing puisqu’elle constitue aussi une touche dans la musique contemporaine par conséquent c est un courant artistique .... si tu veux que je sois plus explicite sur l’exemple que j’ai cité auparavant, je dirais qu’en regardant comment certains se vetissent ici et bien tu comprends comment une certaine jeunesse s’est appropriée le style français qui lui même provenant d’Orient, le Jacquard par exemple, en transitant par l’Italie, beaucoup comme les parfums d’ailleurs, Grasse capitale du parfum n’est qu’un ancien terreau de roses de Damas, et bien elle a su le mettre en valeur et le moderniser...à en croire les stylistes qui composent ces grandes marques de luxe et qui en sont les vecteurs dans les rues des grandes capitales...donc le luxe n’est pas que la vitrine Paris qui a en fait beaucoup à voir avec une inspiration nord américaine au vu des anciennes actrices d’Hollywood..et par ailleurs comme beaucoup de chansonnettes type Joyeux anniversaire ou de mythe comme celui du père noel en robe rouge...chose que l’on pourrait penser de prime à bord...l’orsque l’on vit dans un monde francophone stricto sensu...
Et pour rester dans ce contexte, certains Canadiens français m’ont fait part de leur ressentiment vis-à-vis de la France qui célèbre drapeau levé Lafayette et les États-Unis mais qui ont tendance à ne pas transmettre à leurs congénères l’abandon des Français en Nouvelle-France en pleine Bataille avec les Anglais et bien vu de France, cela paraît lointain mais ici saches que c’est toujours present voir omniprésent...ça aussi, ça ternit l’image de l’histoire de France surtout quand tu apprends contre quoi le Royaume de France a échangé une partie des Amériques....ou quand De Gaulle, cette figure française, ravive la flamme du Québec et par la suite file à....
Quand à la French Touch, elle ne se limite pas au marketing puisqu’elle constitue aussi une touche dans la musique contemporaine par conséquent c est un courant artistique .... si tu veux que je sois plus explicite sur l’exemple que j’ai cité auparavant, je dirais qu’en regardant comment certains se vetissent ici et bien tu comprends comment une certaine jeunesse s’est appropriée le style français qui lui même provenant d’Orient, le Jacquard par exemple, en transitant par l’Italie, beaucoup comme les parfums d’ailleurs, Grasse capitale du parfum n’est qu’un ancien terreau de roses de Damas, et bien elle a su le mettre en valeur et le moderniser...à en croire les stylistes qui composent ces grandes marques de luxe et qui en sont les vecteurs dans les rues des grandes capitales...donc le luxe n’est pas que la vitrine Paris qui a en fait beaucoup à voir avec une inspiration nord américaine au vu des anciennes actrices d’Hollywood..et par ailleurs comme beaucoup de chansonnettes type Joyeux anniversaire ou de mythe comme celui du père noel en robe rouge...chose que l’on pourrait penser de prime à bord...l’orsque l’on vit dans un monde francophone stricto sensu...
Sur cette lignée, on pourrait citer les "french fries" des anglo-saxons, alors que nous savons tous que les frites sont l'apanage de la Belgique . j'espère que ça ce n'est pas un mythe
Goeden dag,
Pour les french fries j'ai une (bonne) explication:
-Suite au débarquement de Juin 1944 les américains sont arrivés en Belgique , sans s, en rendre compte :On y parlait la même langue qu'en France et les douanes étaient bien sur, inexistantes….😛
Et les belges leur on fait goûter les frites. Les américains ont appréciés et ont ramener les dites-frites dans leur bagages vers les USA….ils ont appellés ce nectar(!) french fries…..se croyant tjs en France…. Les mexicains ne sont pas en reste.Dans certains endroits ils appellent cela :Papas à la francese. Autre (bon) souvenir de la Grande guerre….: Le tartare de bœuf…..En Belgique vous demanderez: Un américain…..! il est d, usage de demander au boucher: Donnez-moi donc 300gr d'américain**…..Et le boucher vous servira 300gr de bœuf haché extra-maigre...que vous dégusterez cru et agrémenté d, une mixture typiquement belch…. **Pcq apparemment les américains y ont introduit le fameux hamburger….
La Belgique est aussi le pays du chocolat mais je vous mets au défi de trouver en Belgique un seul restaurant servant du poulet au chocolat…. Evitez d, en parler: C'est un crime de lèse-majesté….
Smakeliyk.
Goeden dag,
Pour les french fries j'ai une (bonne) explication:
-Suite au débarquement de Juin 1944 les américains sont arrivés en Belgique , sans s, en rendre compte :On y parlait la même langue qu'en France et les douanes étaient bien sur, inexistantes….😛
Et les belges leur on fait goûter les frites. Les américains ont appréciés et ont ramener les dites-frites dans leur bagages vers les USA….ils ont appellés ce nectar(!) french fries…..se croyant tjs en France…. Les mexicains ne sont pas en reste.Dans certains endroits ils appellent cela :Papas à la francese. Autre (bon) souvenir de la Grande guerre….: Le tartare de bœuf…..En Belgique vous demanderez: Un américain…..! il est d, usage de demander au boucher: Donnez-moi donc 300gr d'américain**…..Et le boucher vous servira 300gr de bœuf haché extra-maigre...que vous dégusterez cru et agrémenté d, une mixture typiquement belch…. **Pcq apparemment les américains y ont introduit le fameux hamburger….
La Belgique est aussi le pays du chocolat mais je vous mets au défi de trouver en Belgique un seul restaurant servant du poulet au chocolat…. Evitez d, en parler: C'est un crime de lèse-majesté….
Smakeliyk.
On met longtemps à devenir jeune...
Sur cette lignée, on pourrait citer les "french fries" des anglo-saxons, alors que nous savons tous que les frites sont l'apanage de la Belgique . j'espère que ça ce n'est pas un mythe
Goeden dag,
Pour les french fries j'ai une (bonne) explication:
-Suite au débarquement de Juin 1944 les américains sont arrivés en Belgique , sans s, en rendre compte :On y parlait la même langue qu'en France et les douanes étaient bien sur, inexistantes….😛
Et les belges leur on fait goûter les frites. Les américains ont appréciés et ont ramener les dites-frites dans leur bagages vers les USA….ils ont appellés ce nectar(!) french fries…..se croyant tjs en France…. Les mexicains ne sont pas en reste.Dans certains endroits ils appellent cela :Papas à la francese. Autre (bon) souvenir de la Grande guerre….: Le tartare de bœuf…..En Belgique vous demanderez: Un américain…..! il est d, usage de demander au boucher: Donnez-moi donc 300gr d'américain**…..Et le boucher vous servira 300gr de bœuf haché extra-maigre...que vous dégusterez cru et agrémenté d, une mixture typiquement belch…. **Pcq apparemment les américains y ont introduit le fameux hamburger….
La Belgique est aussi le pays du chocolat mais je vous mets au défi de trouver en Belgique un seul restaurant servant du poulet au chocolat…. Evitez d, en parler: C'est un crime de lèse-majesté….
Smakeliyk.
Amusant tout ça. Heel leuk, hoor ! (we konden ook doorgaan in het Vlaams 😉)
Ce sont des anecdotes que je n’avais jamais entendues ! Donc ces « French fries », l’appellation consacrée en dehors des milieux francophones ou flamand-phones (et néerlandais-phones ; je ne sais pas comment ça se dit, à vrai dire), c’est vraiment un mythe, au même titre que les mariachis Mexicains. Ou au même titre que la fameuse « rijsttafel » pseudo-indonésienne aux Pays-Bas, puisque nous y touchions juste.
Eet smakelijk! 😛
Goeden dag,
Pour les french fries j'ai une (bonne) explication:
-Suite au débarquement de Juin 1944 les américains sont arrivés en Belgique , sans s, en rendre compte :On y parlait la même langue qu'en France et les douanes étaient bien sur, inexistantes….😛
Et les belges leur on fait goûter les frites. Les américains ont appréciés et ont ramener les dites-frites dans leur bagages vers les USA….ils ont appellés ce nectar(!) french fries…..se croyant tjs en France…. Les mexicains ne sont pas en reste.Dans certains endroits ils appellent cela :Papas à la francese. Autre (bon) souvenir de la Grande guerre….: Le tartare de bœuf…..En Belgique vous demanderez: Un américain…..! il est d, usage de demander au boucher: Donnez-moi donc 300gr d'américain**…..Et le boucher vous servira 300gr de bœuf haché extra-maigre...que vous dégusterez cru et agrémenté d, une mixture typiquement belch…. **Pcq apparemment les américains y ont introduit le fameux hamburger….
La Belgique est aussi le pays du chocolat mais je vous mets au défi de trouver en Belgique un seul restaurant servant du poulet au chocolat…. Evitez d, en parler: C'est un crime de lèse-majesté….
Smakeliyk.
Amusant tout ça. Heel leuk, hoor ! (we konden ook doorgaan in het Vlaams 😉)
Ce sont des anecdotes que je n’avais jamais entendues ! Donc ces « French fries », l’appellation consacrée en dehors des milieux francophones ou flamand-phones (et néerlandais-phones ; je ne sais pas comment ça se dit, à vrai dire), c’est vraiment un mythe, au même titre que les mariachis Mexicains. Ou au même titre que la fameuse « rijsttafel » pseudo-indonésienne aux Pays-Bas, puisque nous y touchions juste.
Eet smakelijk! 😛
Merci pour ta réponse. Je connais bien le contexte canadien, j'y ai vécu plus de 3 ans, dans l'Ouest (j'ai tout un tas de super souvenirs!). J'ai ensuite travailler à l'international avec principalement des nord-américains. En fait le mythe dont tu parles est celui qu'ont les français par rapport à eux mêmes ! C'est ce que les français pensent de ce que les étrangers pensent des français.. euh vous me suivez ? C'est l'image qu'on croit renvoyez à l'extérieur mais on se plante complètement ! Alors oui la sphère anglophone est pleine de clichés et d'a priori sur les français : on est sale, râleur, fainéant, dragueur mais en même temps raffiné (pour la cuisine et les arts). Mais pour moi rien d'un mythe, juste une collection d'idées reçues qui ne sont pas entièrement fausses (pas de fumée sans feu). Quand à la French Touch le canadien ou l'américain moyen n'en a jamais entendu parler, sauf dans quelques milieux professionnels comme la mode ou la musique...
Le seule truc qui pour moi s'approche d'un mythe en Amérique du Nord anglophone c'est la femme française : vous pointez n'importe quelle femme dans la rue et vous leur dites qu'elle est française, tous les mecs vont avoir la bave aux lèvres façon loup de Tex Avery ! 😮
Cela dit dans des pays comme le Japon ou la Russie oui il y a un certain mythe de la France pays de la culture et de Paris ville de l'amour. Je pense notamment au https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syndrome_de_Paris
Je connais moins bien le Québec que le reste du Canada mais lors de mes deux voyages là-bas je n'ai pas ressenti de ressentiment vis à vis de la France. Tout au plus un agacement face à certains touristes français qui prennent de haut les québécois. Mais je pense que ce phénomène est universel, on pourrait parler des américains qui arrivent avec leurs dollars au Canada ou au Mexique, des parisiens (ou habitants d'autres grandes villes) en balade en régions, etc. Et pour rappeler quelques faits historiques : - Lafayette n'est pas célébré en France, il est même plutôt oublié des livres scolaires. Peu de français savent le rôle qu'il a joué dans la guerre d'indépendance américaine. - De quelle abandon 'en pleine bataille' de la Nouvelle-France parles-tu ? Je ne connais pas toutes les batailles (nombreuses) mais le bilan de la guerre de 7 ans c'est la défaite de la France et la victoire de l'Angleterre. Comme tout perdant la France a dû céder des territoires et le vainqueur les a récupéré. - A l'issue de la guerre donc la France a eu le choix entre céder la Nouvelle-France (en gros le Québec) ou les "îles du sucre" (les Antilles). A l'époque les colonies antillaises étaient bien plus intéressantes sur le plan économique et commercial (par ex St Pierre en Martinique était le plus grand port de la Caraïbe, détruit en 1902 par l'éruption de la Montagne Pelée). - A mon avis il y a plutôt du ressentiment par rapport au "grand dérangement" mais les acadiens et québécois du forum nous en parlerons sûrement mieux eux-mêmes. - De Gaulle tout le monde sait que c'était le champion de l'empapaoutage. Vive le Québec libre ! ou Je vous ai compris! aux algériens. Des mots sans lendemain mais restés célèbres ;)
Il y a aussi des communautés francophones dans le reste du Canada (surtout dans les Prairies: Alberta, Manitoba, etc) et les français y sont plutôt bien accueillis. Même les canadiens anglophones aiment bien les français de France, contrairement aux franco-canadiens qu'ils soupçonnent de saper l'unité de la confédération. Et si tu vas chez les métis ou les amérindiens alors là ils adorent les français ;) (et détestent les anglais, pour des raisons historiques)
Cela dit dans des pays comme le Japon ou la Russie oui il y a un certain mythe de la France pays de la culture et de Paris ville de l'amour. Je pense notamment au https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syndrome_de_Paris
Je connais moins bien le Québec que le reste du Canada mais lors de mes deux voyages là-bas je n'ai pas ressenti de ressentiment vis à vis de la France. Tout au plus un agacement face à certains touristes français qui prennent de haut les québécois. Mais je pense que ce phénomène est universel, on pourrait parler des américains qui arrivent avec leurs dollars au Canada ou au Mexique, des parisiens (ou habitants d'autres grandes villes) en balade en régions, etc. Et pour rappeler quelques faits historiques : - Lafayette n'est pas célébré en France, il est même plutôt oublié des livres scolaires. Peu de français savent le rôle qu'il a joué dans la guerre d'indépendance américaine. - De quelle abandon 'en pleine bataille' de la Nouvelle-France parles-tu ? Je ne connais pas toutes les batailles (nombreuses) mais le bilan de la guerre de 7 ans c'est la défaite de la France et la victoire de l'Angleterre. Comme tout perdant la France a dû céder des territoires et le vainqueur les a récupéré. - A l'issue de la guerre donc la France a eu le choix entre céder la Nouvelle-France (en gros le Québec) ou les "îles du sucre" (les Antilles). A l'époque les colonies antillaises étaient bien plus intéressantes sur le plan économique et commercial (par ex St Pierre en Martinique était le plus grand port de la Caraïbe, détruit en 1902 par l'éruption de la Montagne Pelée). - A mon avis il y a plutôt du ressentiment par rapport au "grand dérangement" mais les acadiens et québécois du forum nous en parlerons sûrement mieux eux-mêmes. - De Gaulle tout le monde sait que c'était le champion de l'empapaoutage. Vive le Québec libre ! ou Je vous ai compris! aux algériens. Des mots sans lendemain mais restés célèbres ;)
Il y a aussi des communautés francophones dans le reste du Canada (surtout dans les Prairies: Alberta, Manitoba, etc) et les français y sont plutôt bien accueillis. Même les canadiens anglophones aiment bien les français de France, contrairement aux franco-canadiens qu'ils soupçonnent de saper l'unité de la confédération. Et si tu vas chez les métis ou les amérindiens alors là ils adorent les français ;) (et détestent les anglais, pour des raisons historiques)
« Ne soyons plus anglais ni français ni allemands. Soyons européens. Ne soyons plus européens, soyons hommes. - Soyons l'humanité. Il nous reste à abdiquer un dernier égoïsme : la patrie. » Victor Hugo
http://www.domainofdamien.eu/GR10/index.html
http://www.domainofdamien.eu/GR10/index.html
5E pour manger une pizza en Emilie ( pourquoi pas une bouillabaisse à Strasbourg ? ) c'est encore bien trop cher , je préfère la payer 8 E dans un fourgon à pizza de Provence
Pause midi sur la route entre Reggio d'Émilie et Modène en mai 2019 : Pizza aux artichauts à 5 € sur table dans un restaurant fréquenté par les routiers qui ne prennent pas l'autoroute. Excellente et pas chère, c'est toujours ça l'Italie.
Photo perso
Pause midi sur la route entre Reggio d'Émilie et Modène en mai 2019 : Pizza aux artichauts à 5 € sur table dans un restaurant fréquenté par les routiers qui ne prennent pas l'autoroute. Excellente et pas chère, c'est toujours ça l'Italie.
Photo persoMerci pour cette réponse bien étoffée et effectivement quand on vous relit on trouve bon nombre de points qui rejoignent mon post et bien plus surtout lorsque vous précisez que ce que je présente comme un mythe en soit est celui qui préexiste dans l’esprit commun d’une population mais je ne veux pas plus m’avancer car vous avez été bien plus explicite sur ce point précis...aussi pour répondre à votre question la fameuse bataille est celle des Plaines d’Abraham où les Français Canadiens attendaient du renfort et des munitions mais le royaume de France plongeait à batailler autre part en Europe, explication qui m’avait été faite une fois par une descendante des premiers colons Francais n’avait pas su approvisionner la Nouvelle-France...d’ailleurs, je tiens vraiment à préciser que c’est un fait historique ici qui m’avait alerté sur ce point, Radio-Canada avait célébré les 100 ans de la guerre de 14-18 par la production d’un documentaire audio et ils expliquaient que bon nombre de Français Canadiens ont refusé d’être enrôler dans la guerre en Europe en se réfugiant dans les forêts car ils estimaient qu’ils n’avaient plus rien à voir avec la France...croyez moi que par ici on m’a quelque fois fait bien comprendre qu’ils sont des Nord américains qui parlent Français et c’est la réalité.
Salut,
le grand derangement, ce n etait pas le Quebec, mais les maritimes, Nouvelle Ecosse et Nouveau Brunswick, les acadiens.
Oui effectivement, j’ai passé à la trappe ce point-ci qui est un passage de l’histoire qui m’a sidéré...bon, on bascule sur de l’histoire mais c’est important de rappeler aussi les mythes fondateurs de la Nouvelle-France vu de la métropole quand on débarque ici en tant que touriste ou expatrié.
La Chanson de geste des quatre fils Aymon a donné une légende qui se raconte dans les Ardennes et incite/invite les gens, promeneurs, touristes, automobilistes de la région et jusqu'en Belgique à faire un stop...
C'est pas un top planétaire, je suis d'accord et je n'ai rien à ajouter.
Wikipedia, je cite : Bogny-sur-Meuse revendique de nombreuses traces de la légende : quatre pics rocheux symbolisent, figés, les quatre frères sur le dos de Bayard, par ailleurs une statue des fils Aymon, accompagnés de leur cheval, est érigée sur l'emplacement de l'ancien Château-Regnault (revendiqué pour la forteresse de Montessor)68, et le rocher de l'Hermitage, qui surplombe le village : il serait celui où l'enchanteur Maugis a fait retraite durant sept ans jusqu'à sa mort69. L'Aymon Folk Festival, programmation annuelle de musique folk à Bogny, est ainsi appelé en référence à la platelle des fils Aymon70.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chanson_des_quatre_fils_Aymon#Bogny-sur-Meuse
C'est pas un top planétaire, je suis d'accord et je n'ai rien à ajouter.
Wikipedia, je cite : Bogny-sur-Meuse revendique de nombreuses traces de la légende : quatre pics rocheux symbolisent, figés, les quatre frères sur le dos de Bayard, par ailleurs une statue des fils Aymon, accompagnés de leur cheval, est érigée sur l'emplacement de l'ancien Château-Regnault (revendiqué pour la forteresse de Montessor)68, et le rocher de l'Hermitage, qui surplombe le village : il serait celui où l'enchanteur Maugis a fait retraite durant sept ans jusqu'à sa mort69. L'Aymon Folk Festival, programmation annuelle de musique folk à Bogny, est ainsi appelé en référence à la platelle des fils Aymon70.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chanson_des_quatre_fils_Aymon#Bogny-sur-Meuse
Salut,
le grand derangement, ce n etait pas le Quebec, mais les maritimes, Nouvelle Ecosse et Nouveau Brunswick, les acadiens.
Oui tout à fait ! Mon propos répondait au sujet du ressentiment qu'auraient les québécois vis à vis de la France. Et je pensais à la solidarité entre franco-canadiens noyés dans un océan anglophone ;)
Oui tout à fait ! Mon propos répondait au sujet du ressentiment qu'auraient les québécois vis à vis de la France. Et je pensais à la solidarité entre franco-canadiens noyés dans un océan anglophone ;)
« Ne soyons plus anglais ni français ni allemands. Soyons européens. Ne soyons plus européens, soyons hommes. - Soyons l'humanité. Il nous reste à abdiquer un dernier égoïsme : la patrie. » Victor Hugo
http://www.domainofdamien.eu/GR10/index.html
http://www.domainofdamien.eu/GR10/index.html
A propos, le mythe de l'Atlantide, ça vous dit ?
Platon, Santorin... ça attire quelques touristes je crois.
Pourquoi pas? Mais il n'y a pas de mystère, tout le monde sait que c'est un mythe! 🙂
Pourquoi pas? Mais il n'y a pas de mystère, tout le monde sait que c'est un mythe! 🙂
A propos, le mythe de l'Atlantide, ça vous dit ?
Platon, Santorin... ça attire quelques touristes je crois.
Pourquoi pas? Mais il n'y a pas de mystère, tout le monde sait que c'est un mythe! 🙂
Ah ! Suis heureux d'apprendre qu'il n'y a pas de mystère, que tout le monde sait... que cela aurait été prouvé. 😕
Pourquoi pas? Mais il n'y a pas de mystère, tout le monde sait que c'est un mythe! 🙂
Ah ! Suis heureux d'apprendre qu'il n'y a pas de mystère, que tout le monde sait... que cela aurait été prouvé. 😕
A propos, le mythe de l'Atlantide, ça vous dit ?
Platon, Santorin... ça attire quelques touristes je crois.
Pourquoi pas? Mais il n'y a pas de mystère, tout le monde sait que c'est un mythe! 🙂
Ah ! Suis heureux d'apprendre qu'il n'y a pas de mystère, que tout le monde sait... que cela aurait été prouvé. 😕
Ce n'est pas grave. Si c'est une théorie qui fait marcher le tourisme, ça entre dans le format de la discussion. Même si personne n'y croit plus.
J'ai des doutes soudain : y-a-t-il des gens qui y croient??? 😉
Pourquoi pas? Mais il n'y a pas de mystère, tout le monde sait que c'est un mythe! 🙂
Ah ! Suis heureux d'apprendre qu'il n'y a pas de mystère, que tout le monde sait... que cela aurait été prouvé. 😕
Ce n'est pas grave. Si c'est une théorie qui fait marcher le tourisme, ça entre dans le format de la discussion. Même si personne n'y croit plus.
J'ai des doutes soudain : y-a-t-il des gens qui y croient??? 😉
5E pour manger une pizza en Emilie ( pourquoi pas une bouillabaisse à Strasbourg ? ) c'est encore bien trop cher , je préfère la payer 8 E dans un fourgon à pizza de Provence
Pause midi sur la route entre Reggio d'Émilie et Modène en mai 2019 : Pizza aux artichauts à 5 € sur table dans un restaurant fréquenté par les routiers qui ne prennent pas l'autoroute. Excellente et pas chère, c'est toujours ça l'Italie.
Photo perso
Le mythe du Français arrogant et râleur ?
Pause midi sur la route entre Reggio d'Émilie et Modène en mai 2019 : Pizza aux artichauts à 5 € sur table dans un restaurant fréquenté par les routiers qui ne prennent pas l'autoroute. Excellente et pas chère, c'est toujours ça l'Italie.
Photo persoLe mythe du Français arrogant et râleur ?
Georges G.
(Mes commentaires et mes photos sont issus de mon vécu réel,
mes peintures, elles, de mes souvenirs fantasmés)
Le mythe du Français arrogant et râleur ?
Ça, malheureusement, et contrairement au mythe de l'Atlantide, ce n'est pas un mythe. 😕
Ça, malheureusement, et contrairement au mythe de l'Atlantide, ce n'est pas un mythe. 😕
Salut, Dans un autre poste, j ai eu l outrecuidance de parler de colonisation de la nouvelle France par les anglais, et du combat pour la langue francaise.
J ai recu une volee de bois verts et "viree" avac une congratulation generale de ma decapitation sur le site.
non le mythe du gastronome ; avec toutes les bonnes choses qu'il y a en Italie , manger des pizza , bien moins bonnes qu'en France , et en plus en Emilie ou jusque dans les années 60 personne ne savait que ça existait
5E pour manger une pizza en Emilie ( pourquoi pas une bouillabaisse à Strasbourg ? ) c'est encore bien trop cher , je préfère la payer 8 E dans un fourgon à pizza de Provence
Pause midi sur la route entre Reggio d'Émilie et Modène en mai 2019 : Pizza aux artichauts à 5 € sur table dans un restaurant fréquenté par les routiers qui ne prennent pas l'autoroute. Excellente et pas chère, c'est toujours ça l'Italie.
Photo perso
Le mythe du Français arrogant et râleur ?
5E pour manger une pizza en Emilie ( pourquoi pas une bouillabaisse à Strasbourg ? ) c'est encore bien trop cher , je préfère la payer 8 E dans un fourgon à pizza de Provence
Pause midi sur la route entre Reggio d'Émilie et Modène en mai 2019 : Pizza aux artichauts à 5 € sur table dans un restaurant fréquenté par les routiers qui ne prennent pas l'autoroute. Excellente et pas chère, c'est toujours ça l'Italie.
Photo persoLe mythe du Français arrogant et râleur ?
non le mythe du gastronome ; avec toutes les bonnes choses qu'il y a en Italie , manger des pizza , bien moins bonnes qu'en France , et en plus en Emilie ou jusque dans les années 60 personne ne savait que ça existait
Comme le couscous dans les années '60 en France, devenu la recette préférée des Français depuis des années. Pas de quoi avoir peur (de la circulation de la gastronomie populaire dans le monde).
Comme le couscous dans les années '60 en France, devenu la recette préférée des Français depuis des années. Pas de quoi avoir peur (de la circulation de la gastronomie populaire dans le monde).
Georges G.
(Mes commentaires et mes photos sont issus de mon vécu réel,
mes peintures, elles, de mes souvenirs fantasmés)
Est-ce un mythe ou une réalité, mais il semble que plusieurs forumistes français/es qui ont voyagé aux USA cherchent (ou même créent) l'occasion de glisser - à propos.. un peu tiré par les cheveux… un peu de snobisme… un peu de ça fait bien… un peude ? - une petite expression de langue anglaise dans leur commentaires?
Pierroro
Quand le moment est arrivé, l'heure est venue! (C.Bobin.)
- et je vous remercie par avance pour votre réponse.
Il faut reconnaitre que nous n’avons pas la même rigueur en matiere d’emploi de l’anglais mais beaucoup moins d’anglicismes mais peut être que vous seriez surpris de voir l’ usage de l’autre côté de l’Antlatique...non, il me semble que c’est has been de nos jours de prétendre que ce soit encore sine nobilate...
Il faut reconnaitre que nous n’avons pas la même rigueur en matiere d’emploi de l’anglais mais beaucoup moins d’anglicismes mais peut être que vous seriez surpris de voir l’ usage de l’autre côté de l’Antlatique...non, il me semble que c’est has been de nos jours de prétendre que ce soit encore sine nobilate...
Comme c'est joli, "sine nobilate". On n'entend pas souvent ce latinisme. Elégance ou snobisme? Haec quaestio est! 😉
Sérieusement et tout simplement…. C’est qu’il y a des choses qui se disent mieux dans une autre langue.
Comme c'est joli, "sine nobilate". On n'entend pas souvent ce latinisme. Elégance ou snobisme? Haec quaestio est! 😉
Sérieusement et tout simplement…. C’est qu’il y a des choses qui se disent mieux dans une autre langue.
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I know in advance that what I'm about to say here won't please everyone, but honesty is a virtue, isn't it?
Here's the thing: for many years now, I've noticed a habit in French-speaking posts of using abbreviations left and right, as if to show that we're "in the know." Let me explain with a few examples:
- - In discussions about Peru, I see "Aguas" for "Aguas Calientes." And if it's Mexico, well, it'll be "Aguas" for "Aguascalientes"!
- - For Guatemala, "travelers" will say "Guaté." Come on, saying "Guatemalas" would maybe be the undeniable sign that you know nothing about the country???
- - Back from Indonesia, many will talk about how familiar they've become with the country's language: "bahasa." Of course, everyone will know what you're talking about, but it still gets on my nerves because the language (one of the many languages) of Indonesia is "bahasa Indonesia." "Bahasa" actually means "language," and you'll find this word of Indian origin ‘Bhāṣā’ (it's Sanskrit originally) outside Indonesia too: in Thailand, for example, any language will be "phasa" as in "phasa thai" (official Thai), "phasa isan" (what's spoken in northeastern Thailand), "phasa angkrit" = English, etc.
Am I an incorrigible nitpicker? Maybe. But I'd also find it ridiculous if a foreigner came and told me they visited "Monte" during their trip to France, when it was actually Monte Carlo.
I read a lot in English and don't think I've encountered such a habit among English speakers.
Hi everyone,
Who’d like to share their best and worst travel memories in a few lines? For me, it’s watching the TAJ MAHAL at sunrise and getting chased by dogs at the top of a mountain pass in GREECE on the way back from ISTANBUL. THANKS GUYS
Who’d like to share their best and worst travel memories in a few lines? For me, it’s watching the TAJ MAHAL at sunrise and getting chased by dogs at the top of a mountain pass in GREECE on the way back from ISTANBUL. THANKS GUYS
Good evening everyone,
This is my 15,000th post, and it's a message I would have preferred never to write.
Patrick—Yangguizi—won’t be returning from his trek in Uganda. His health betrayed him in the mountains.
Like many of you, I laughed until I couldn’t anymore at his travel stories. I met him in Shanghai, then in Istanbul... We scoured restaurants—he was an incredible expert on world cuisines. We relived Korea, China. Always brilliant, so sharp, so funny, so down-to-earth. Being even a little bit his friend was something to be proud of. I think I envied him.
Patrick is still out there, of course... He found his happiness running across the world. He’s on his path. He never doubted that "the traveler doesn’t even know if he’ll return one day."
Not sure this would’ve suited him, but his departure devastates me.
Alright, Farewell, you foreign devil. Safe travels.
Michel
This is my 15,000th post, and it's a message I would have preferred never to write.
Patrick—Yangguizi—won’t be returning from his trek in Uganda. His health betrayed him in the mountains.
Like many of you, I laughed until I couldn’t anymore at his travel stories. I met him in Shanghai, then in Istanbul... We scoured restaurants—he was an incredible expert on world cuisines. We relived Korea, China. Always brilliant, so sharp, so funny, so down-to-earth. Being even a little bit his friend was something to be proud of. I think I envied him.
Patrick is still out there, of course... He found his happiness running across the world. He’s on his path. He never doubted that "the traveler doesn’t even know if he’ll return one day."
Not sure this would’ve suited him, but his departure devastates me.
Alright, Farewell, you foreign devil. Safe travels.
Michel
hello to all travelers with their eyes wide open to the desert...
I’ve always wondered what I was "doing" on this earth. And why my father, who died a few months after I was born—a former youngest French resistance fighter—joined the First Saharan Motorized Company in Atar and spent the rest of his life repairing army engines in Algeria, Mauritania, Senegal, Mali (which didn’t exist under that name back then), Morocco, and finally Algeria, where my mother was born and raised. (Believe me, it’s not "cool" being the child of a soldier in a country occupied by France, and even less so the child of a "pied-noir.") Of course, I never got an answer: the dead don’t talk, and the army doesn’t either. But here’s the thing—I had photos... So naturally, one day I hit the road. I wanted to see, to understand. It’s thanks to VF that I was able to do a little research on crossing the Morocco-Mauritania border, and I’m grateful to its members, just as I’m grateful to all those who welcomed me on the road for 14 years. For the past few weeks, I’ve been wondering if I should talk about this or not... It turns out the Mauritanians changed my life by asking for my help... And that started as early as February 2012... (Did I owe them something? No answer to that question.) Ah, the irony—they saw me coming. But when you’re handed sick children and begged to do something, what would you have done? I’d worked in a hospital, so I knew a bit about the rules to follow. I didn’t hesitate. And well, over all these years, I met doctors, surgeons, and together we organized care, evacuations of children, training for surgeons—even trying to stop children from having to travel outside their country. It was never easy. I’d like to thank those who supported us, as well as *La Chaîne de l’Espoir*, *La Fondation Face au Monde*, and everyone who built bridges between our two countries. Unfortunately, despite the constant efforts of Mauritanian doctors and surgeons, some children couldn’t be helped in time. Today, I want to talk about four siblings—orphans of their mother—suffering from congenital glaucoma causing irreversible blindness. Their case was entrusted to me in 2020, just weeks before the big lockdown. We couldn’t do anything for them then, but when their father asked me for a gift, I rushed to my computer and wrote a story. Through a tale, the children take a great journey, explore their country, and fulfill a dream. I never thought this book would be published—it was, in 2023. This book pays tribute to Mauritania. It’s a message for those who know nothing about the hardships of life there, carrying both the harshness and beauty of an immense desert where you can travel by 4x4, bike, on foot, or by camel in complete safety. It bears witness to the kindness of Mauritanians toward travelers. As a woman traveling alone in my vehicle—a now-rusted old Mercedes that no longer runs—I had the most beautiful encounters of my life there (I’ve seen other parts of the world...). The blind children of Choum, Atar, Nouadhibou, and Nouakchott will forever be in my heart. Volunteer readers transcribed the book into a free audio version for the visually impaired. It’s available in sound libraries in France, the *Fondation Valentin Haüy*, and the Swiss Romande library. I made my last trip to Mauritania in my old 4x4 to distribute the book everywhere, especially to its heroes and the school for the visually impaired in Nouakchott. After that, I thought it was time to close the chapter because I no longer have the means or the strength to travel. My publishers chose this title for it: *The Blue Eyes of the Desert*. This publication helped a mission of Swiss volunteer ophthalmologists come to operate on glaucomas in Mauritania. I’m thrilled because they come back every year! This adventure is ending, yes—everything must come to an end—but ultimately, it was born here, on the VF site!! So yes, I had to say it: THANK YOU!!!!!
I’ve always wondered what I was "doing" on this earth. And why my father, who died a few months after I was born—a former youngest French resistance fighter—joined the First Saharan Motorized Company in Atar and spent the rest of his life repairing army engines in Algeria, Mauritania, Senegal, Mali (which didn’t exist under that name back then), Morocco, and finally Algeria, where my mother was born and raised. (Believe me, it’s not "cool" being the child of a soldier in a country occupied by France, and even less so the child of a "pied-noir.") Of course, I never got an answer: the dead don’t talk, and the army doesn’t either. But here’s the thing—I had photos... So naturally, one day I hit the road. I wanted to see, to understand. It’s thanks to VF that I was able to do a little research on crossing the Morocco-Mauritania border, and I’m grateful to its members, just as I’m grateful to all those who welcomed me on the road for 14 years. For the past few weeks, I’ve been wondering if I should talk about this or not... It turns out the Mauritanians changed my life by asking for my help... And that started as early as February 2012... (Did I owe them something? No answer to that question.) Ah, the irony—they saw me coming. But when you’re handed sick children and begged to do something, what would you have done? I’d worked in a hospital, so I knew a bit about the rules to follow. I didn’t hesitate. And well, over all these years, I met doctors, surgeons, and together we organized care, evacuations of children, training for surgeons—even trying to stop children from having to travel outside their country. It was never easy. I’d like to thank those who supported us, as well as *La Chaîne de l’Espoir*, *La Fondation Face au Monde*, and everyone who built bridges between our two countries. Unfortunately, despite the constant efforts of Mauritanian doctors and surgeons, some children couldn’t be helped in time. Today, I want to talk about four siblings—orphans of their mother—suffering from congenital glaucoma causing irreversible blindness. Their case was entrusted to me in 2020, just weeks before the big lockdown. We couldn’t do anything for them then, but when their father asked me for a gift, I rushed to my computer and wrote a story. Through a tale, the children take a great journey, explore their country, and fulfill a dream. I never thought this book would be published—it was, in 2023. This book pays tribute to Mauritania. It’s a message for those who know nothing about the hardships of life there, carrying both the harshness and beauty of an immense desert where you can travel by 4x4, bike, on foot, or by camel in complete safety. It bears witness to the kindness of Mauritanians toward travelers. As a woman traveling alone in my vehicle—a now-rusted old Mercedes that no longer runs—I had the most beautiful encounters of my life there (I’ve seen other parts of the world...). The blind children of Choum, Atar, Nouadhibou, and Nouakchott will forever be in my heart. Volunteer readers transcribed the book into a free audio version for the visually impaired. It’s available in sound libraries in France, the *Fondation Valentin Haüy*, and the Swiss Romande library. I made my last trip to Mauritania in my old 4x4 to distribute the book everywhere, especially to its heroes and the school for the visually impaired in Nouakchott. After that, I thought it was time to close the chapter because I no longer have the means or the strength to travel. My publishers chose this title for it: *The Blue Eyes of the Desert*. This publication helped a mission of Swiss volunteer ophthalmologists come to operate on glaucomas in Mauritania. I’m thrilled because they come back every year! This adventure is ending, yes—everything must come to an end—but ultimately, it was born here, on the VF site!! So yes, I had to say it: THANK YOU!!!!!
Hi everyone,
I’m Loulou, a French expat who’s been living in Southeast Asia for about fifteen years, currently in Phnom Penh, Cambodia. A passionate walker at heart, I’ve trekked in Nepal (Thorung La, Mardi Himal), India, Vietnam, and I’m still planning new hikes (Char Dham, Langtang, Annapurna).
I’ve just published my first travel journal, recounting three months of walking and encounters across India. A portion of the sales goes to an educational center I support in Kep, for children whose parents work in the salt marshes.
I’m also working on a second book about Nepal with a musician friend, focusing on the Mardi Himal trek—two independent perspectives on the same journey.
Happy to swap stories with you about the Himalayas, India, Southeast Asia, or just the urge to hit the road and walk far from home.
Safe travels,
Loulou
Hi! It was totally by chance that I stumbled upon VoyageForum (an ad online and a story lol), and I’ve been reading some really old posts from 2011 about Thai massage schools—discussions on how to get by, accommodation, prices, etc. It reminded me of my own experience: I kept things simple by staying with a local family during my entire trip. I only shared all the expenses with them, which, I’ll admit, was super cheap… and I often traveled with them, which naturally opened a lot of doors for me. To start, at the school in Salaya, my Thai friend immediately connected me with Teacher Phong (the school’s mentor and teacher of teachers, a former monk). I was supposed to join a group session with other foreigners, but for some reason I don’t know, I got two days of private lessons for free with this expert… incredible! And on top of that, he loved France! It was an amazing experience. I "discovered" massage by chance—the Thai family just told me: "Try it, you’ll see!" (I’d had a pretty intense massage in the capital before 😅… but the next day, I felt unbelievably great!))
Every morning, I’d take a taxi (chosen by the Thai family at prices that beat all the competition) to this school—I’ve forgotten the name of the little village now… right in the heart of the countryside. Then, in the evenings, I’d keep practicing massage on all the family members… and they’d teach me Thai at the same time!))
Since then, I’ve practiced a bit, with lots of positive feedback. Following Teacher Phong’s advice—he thought my pressure was deep, firm, and precise—he strongly encouraged me to take this seriously.
I love Thailand so much. It’s a whole different way of living… and it’s a real blessing, even if I couldn’t live there full-time. Anyway, that was an unforgettable memory, and sometimes the Thai family and I still say hi—from 2011, 2013… right up to today!
Take care, everyone! !
Every morning, I’d take a taxi (chosen by the Thai family at prices that beat all the competition) to this school—I’ve forgotten the name of the little village now… right in the heart of the countryside. Then, in the evenings, I’d keep practicing massage on all the family members… and they’d teach me Thai at the same time!))
Since then, I’ve practiced a bit, with lots of positive feedback. Following Teacher Phong’s advice—he thought my pressure was deep, firm, and precise—he strongly encouraged me to take this seriously.
I love Thailand so much. It’s a whole different way of living… and it’s a real blessing, even if I couldn’t live there full-time. Anyway, that was an unforgettable memory, and sometimes the Thai family and I still say hi—from 2011, 2013… right up to today!
Take care, everyone! !
"It seems to me that poverty would be less painful in the sun" wrote Aznavour...
Not sure...😕 Who can prove that people in hot countries are happier than others? What do you think?
Is it better to live in Montpellier than in Lille? Are the Pygmies happier than the Inuit? Are Canadians less happy than the people of Louisiana? Are there more French expats in hot countries?
And your travels? Do you choose your destinations based on the climate? Do you rejoice when a bit of sunshine appears?
Not sure...😕 Who can prove that people in hot countries are happier than others? What do you think?
Is it better to live in Montpellier than in Lille? Are the Pygmies happier than the Inuit? Are Canadians less happy than the people of Louisiana? Are there more French expats in hot countries?
And your travels? Do you choose your destinations based on the climate? Do you rejoice when a bit of sunshine appears?
Hi everyone, just this once I’m not posting for a travel story, but to share a thought for Venezuela.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed. Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed. Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
hi there
I’d like to invite you to discover my coastal province in central Vietnam: Quang Ngai.
This year, my province has really improved its infrastructure—mountains, countryside, and sea are all authentic here.
No harassers or thieves, and no Russians either.
A local lunch costs around 1 €.
A *** hotel room is about 25 €, and you can find hotels right on My Khe Beach.
We have a specialty: *banh xeo*—10 crepes for just 1.5 €.
You can rent motorbikes to explore the province and maybe visit the many ethnic minorities.
I live here—I’m not selling anything, but I can help if needed (my father-in-law is a traditional Vietnamese doctor and he’s very skilled).
We're planning to spend a month in Vietnam. Is hiring a guide helpful?
Hi everyone! 😉
I’m Typhaine, 35 years old. Five years ago, I left France for a solo round-the-world trip—no planes, just a van, hitchhiking, cycling, and even a canoe in the Amazon! Today, I work as a naturalist guide in Argentine Patagonia.
Wherever I go, my compass stays the same: observing and photographing wildlife, which I deeply admire and respect.
My project: I’d love to share this experience through a sustainable, authentic, and immersive nature tourism initiative. But to build something meaningful, I need to understand how other nature enthusiasts experience their own adventures.
If you:
Are over 20 years old
Have a true passion for Nature
Have already taken at least one trip lasting more than 3 nights (in your country or abroad) in your life
Then... would you have 5 to 7 minutes to help me by filling out this questionnaire? 🙂 »» https://forms.gle/y74ckkvN9TjrougLA
Promise: I’m not selling anything, this isn’t marketing. Your answers are 100% anonymous and will only help me shape this wild project. A huge thank you to everyone for your help and kindness! Looking forward to chatting in this thread 😛
(Dear admins, this is purely a collaborative effort for my project study, with no commercial purpose. Thank you so much for your support!)
Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
My project: I’d love to share this experience through a sustainable, authentic, and immersive nature tourism initiative. But to build something meaningful, I need to understand how other nature enthusiasts experience their own adventures.
If you:
Are over 20 years old
Have a true passion for Nature
Have already taken at least one trip lasting more than 3 nights (in your country or abroad) in your life
Then... would you have 5 to 7 minutes to help me by filling out this questionnaire? 🙂 »» https://forms.gle/y74ckkvN9TjrougLA
Promise: I’m not selling anything, this isn’t marketing. Your answers are 100% anonymous and will only help me shape this wild project. A huge thank you to everyone for your help and kindness! Looking forward to chatting in this thread 😛
(Dear admins, this is purely a collaborative effort for my project study, with no commercial purpose. Thank you so much for your support!)
Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
Hello everyone,
It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

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It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

...
I spent 3 weeks in Bali last summer (+ 3 nights on Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java). So I wanted to see what ChatGPT could suggest for comparison...
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Hello everyone,
I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
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Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

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I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
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.Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

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I’ve kept the habit of blowing my nose in the sink and then washing my hands—a custom I picked up in India. Sometimes, non-travelers are shocked when they catch me in the act... 🤪
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
After taking a little trip around the world, I came back a few months ago with an idea in mind.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
As part of my Master’s thesis, I’m currently conducting a public survey on a topic that concerns all of us when planning a trip: artificial intelligence and the role of human contact in travel planning.
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
While browsing the forum to gather info for my upcoming trip to Thailand, I often see the terms "traveler," "great traveler," and also "tourist"—so what’s the nuance for you?
I've traveled quite a bit in Vietnam over the past few years—from the southern delta to bustling cities and even some small islands—but what really sticks with me is the north, the high mountains.
Up there, there's something different—maybe slower, more raw. The morning markets with ethnic groups, women in traditional clothes, the colors...
The stilt houses, kids following you and laughing for no reason, the terraced rice fields—it almost feels unreal at times, so vast and quiet, yet so human and simple.
You often hear that Sapa has become too touristy, and that's partly true, especially in the center. But as soon as you move a little farther away, everything changes quickly. The landscapes open up, encounters feel more natural, and you rediscover something truly authentic.
I think it's that contrast that struck me—the difference between what you imagine before going and what you actually discover when you take the time.
And you—what memory do you hold onto from Vietnam? A particular place that touched you more than others?
Hello,
We’re finalizing the plans for our upcoming trip to China in May 2025. The second-to-last stop will be in Zhangjiajie, where we’ve planned to stay for 2 full days before heading to Shanghai.
We’re traveling solo using local transport and have arranged to stay in the city of Zhangjiajie.
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
Hello 🙂
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
Hi everyone, here’s our itinerary. Arriving on the evening of December 13th. Departing on January 7th.
Thanks in advance for your tips and valuable feedback.
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Really disappointed with Costa Rica! Pura vida? The scam of the century!
(Costa Rica pure emptiness).
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
Hello,
Since the war between Russia and Ukraine, nothing is simple anymore for traveling to Belarus due to sanctions.
No more direct flights from the EU to Minsk.
Driving is a huge hassle, especially crossing through Poland at the only open border in Brest—you can wait 2, 3, or even 4 days just to get through by car.
The least painful driving option is to come via Lithuania and cross at the only open border, with a minimum wait time of 8 hours, sometimes up to 20 hours or more!!
Controls are very strict and annoying on both the Lithuanian and Belarusian sides. Avoid bringing alcohol, food, or cigarettes—everything will end up in the trash, especially when leaving Belarus for Vilnius, where the Lithuanians are tough, even with EU citizens.
The joy I once knew when visiting my wife in Minsk is sadly over—it’s now a real ordeal.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
Hi everyone!
I’m putting together our travel itinerary for Veneto at the end of April. And the more I look and research potential sites to visit, the more I find!
We’ll only be there for a week—my family and I—including 3 days in Venice. So we have to make some choices...
I plan to rent a car when we arrive in Venice and head straight to Bergamo, which would be our first stop. We’d leave the car at the airport when we return to Venice so we can explore the city at our leisure.
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
Now that the curtain has fallen on the past year, it’s time to see what’s happening around here.
It seems pretty quiet, but I’ll read more in detail later.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
I’ve visited the U.S. four times myself, including two long road trips. The last one was just this past August...
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
Hi there,
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
Hello everyone,
Controversial topic? Not necessarily—maybe just a reflection on a world to come.
I spent the last 15 days of August on a cruise in Greenland, from Kangerlussuaq to Tasiilaq.
I was utterly amazed by this unique world of rock and ice, the little houses in every color, a simple life that’s also complicated by isolation and climate, among other things...
I carry in my heart the kindness of the people I met, the raw and gentle majesty of the icebergs, the colors of the sky...
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,

Hello to all East Africa lovers and nature enthusiasts in general,
While I prepare to share a recap of our latest trip/safari in Kenya soon, I’d like to wish you all a peaceful transition between 2025 and 2026.
Warm regards,
Puma2A.





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