Short video of our trip from northern Vietnam to Yunnan via Upper Laos
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OL
Here’s a little clip we filmed in November–December 2019 (just before Covid) of a trip from Hanoi to Cat Ba Bay and then on to Xishuangbanna via Luang Namtha.

https://youtu.be/suZYN3LvgkQ
FL FloAsie ·
Oh nice, you really went for the full route all the way to Yunnan! So I guess you took the time to do it properly because, honestly, a lot of people skip Upper Laos thinking it's just a place to cross by bus, but that area is amazing.

I’ve got a few questions to help plan my next trip. First, about timing—you mentioned November-December. Was that for the road conditions or just because it was the best weather? I’ve always heard that the monsoon makes some stretches tricky around then, but from what I remember, the real issues are more like September-October.

For example, between Cat Ba and Luang Namtha, what exact route did you take? The classic is Hanoi to Ha Giang first, but it seems like you did something different. Personally, I’m wondering how much time you planned for Upper Laos before heading into Yunnan. Two weeks? Three?

Honestly, a video is great for the overall vibe, but the little practical details are often what’s missing. Like transport prices between cities, whether the guesthouses in Luang Namtha are really worth it or if they’re just basic tourist spots. People say Laos is too expensive now—I’m not sure about that. Did you notice a big difference compared to Thailand?

Anyway, I’d love to hear your thoughts on the video itself. How was it edited? Did you film on your phone or with gear?
Flo — Expat Bangkok depuis 2019 · Thaïlande, Vietnam, Cambodge, Bali · Je réponds sur le budget, les visas et la logistique terrain
OL Oliverte64 ·
Hi FloAsie,

Really sorry I didn’t reply sooner. Life’s ups and downs mean I don’t spend much time on this forum anymore since I’ve got fewer travel plans... except for early 2027, when I’ll be paramotoring in Vietnam! :)

True, this little video doesn’t really cover the practical tips, and the footage just shows the route and activities without getting into the useful details (I don’t keep anything now—no restaurant receipts, bus tickets, hotel bookings, "boat/canoe" trips, etc.).

Over time (the trip was in 2019), I’ve forgotten the prices, hotel names, restaurants, etc., but I still remember the itinerary: arrival in Hanoi – canoeing in Lan Ha Bay – Hanoi – hiking in Pu Luong Park – Dien Bien – border crossing and the "bakshish" at Pang Hok – hoping to take the boat in Muang Kwa – trekking in Luang Nam Tha – Jinghong – return via Kunming – Beijing.

I don’t have any points of comparison with Thailand.

The video was shot on a smartphone and edited on the go.

I found Luang Nam Tha in Laos a bit "pricey," but the tourist infrastructure brings modern comforts at the cost of what it was like 20 years ago—a remote, authentic town.

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