Gros amateur de lecture de presse.......je devore les articles concernant bon nombres de pays d Amerique du sud . Et je suis toujours admiratif devant la quantite d informations ( grace a internet ) que l on peux avoir en direct sur des situations, des expos, des evenements, ou tout simplement pour consulter les prix d un hotel ou les horaires des avions ou des bus.
Or il y a quelque chose qui me gene ( et meme plutot agacant ) que l on ne trouve que dans la presse francaise ( peut etre d autres pays aussi ...vous me le direz) ....c est de vouloir faire payer la lecture d article . D une part je regrette que l acces a l information soit payante, d autre part je ne comprend pas comment des internautes soient prets a payer pour lire une info qu ils peuvent avoir ailleurs de maniere gratuite . ( si vous avez deja payé dites le moi et pourquoi )
Je vous donne un exemple : Sur le Figaro www.lefigaro.fr
Un seul article sur la situation en Bolivie pendant le mois de Mai ! Le Figaro c'est quand meme un journal "serieux"...on peux y lire pas mal d articles sur l international.....pourtant en un mois : 1 seul article le 19 mai dernier de 262 mots ( c'est eux qui le disent ) ....(a ce niveau la mon mail atteind presque deja les 262 mots aussi )..donc pour moi ce n'est meme pas un article, c'est un resume de resume de resume de depeche d'AFP .....et bien si vous voulez le lire vous cliquez sur le message et le site du Figaro vous demande 4 Euros !!!! ( j ai l impression de rever ! ).... bref on veux nous faire payer quelque chose qui ne vaut rien du tout .
Sur le Monde www.lemonde.fr
Meme essais : 10 articles en un mois sur la situation en Bolive......articles entre 500 et 800 mots ( ah quand meme ), je clique dessus, j ai les 100 premiers mots gratuits ( merci Mr Le Monde ) et ensuite il faut que je paye 6 Euros pour consulter les articles pendant 30 jours ! Donc pour Le Monde plus d infos que le Figaro et moins rapia .
Dernier essai : Liberation www.liberation.fr
5 Articles en Mai sur la Bolive.......tous gratuits, dans les 500 a 600 mots ....
Bref je ne suis pas la pour les faire la pub de Liberation.....puisque ce dernier journal fait ce qui est normal, c est a dire informer les lecteurs de maniere gratuite ....comment voulez faire payer la lecture d un site alors qu il existe des milliers de journaux et des milliers de sources d information. Justement sur la Bolivie existe une quinzaine de quotidiens sur le web tous gratuit et qui donnent des tonnes d info ...... ( ok, vous me direz, il faut savoir l'espagnol ! .....c est vrai ! mais bon j aurais tres bien pu prendre la Belgique comme autre exemple )
Argentine : 163 journaux sur le net, tous gratuit........impossible a lire tous les jours ! Des milliers d info sur l Argentine et aussi sur les autres pays ( pendant la campagne sur la constitution europeenne en France ..2 a 3 pages par jours dans le Clarin ) .....
Bref...une fois de plus, j ai l impression que les jounaux francais se trouvent " bons", " incontournables" et "detenteur de l Info" et qu ils pensent pour ses raisons que "leur" prose a le devoir de se faire payer pour etre lu ! .......je suis pourtant francais, mais il y a des jours ou je me demande pourquoi les francais se croit toujours le nombril du monde !
Justement comme je suis francais, et que vous venez de me lire, faite moi un virement de 4 Euros ! (672 mots ..pas cher ! )
…la depêche à l'origine de l'article se paye
…les journaliste et photo-journaliste, iconographe, archiviste se payent
…la maintenance, mise en page, mise en ligne etc…se payent aussi…
…la sté de presse a egalement ses charges, frais de fonctionement, administration et autre…
Alors pourquoi voulez-vous qu'une entreprise commerciale dont le fond de commerce est l'information et son suivit à chaud ou à froid, offre genereusement au tout venant le fruit de son travail ?
une âme d'aventuriere ne peut se rejouir enracinée dans son quotidien…
Bien sur que ca se paye ...mais sur l edition papier, avec en plus la pub ! Mais justement pourquoi alors les medias des autres pays ne font pas payer ? Justement c'est ca qui est debile, , , , si tout le monde faisait payer c'est une chose, mais il n y a que sur cette presse la francaise, qu ils veulent faire payer. Tu n'as pas plutot l impression qu il veulent gagner sur les deux tableaux : 1) sur la presse ecrite ( entre 1 et 1, 50 Euro le titre ) et 2) sur le web 4 Euros pour un bout d article de 300 mots ? Attend il faut etre serieux tout de meme ..
Dis moi c'est comme si sur le site de tele 7 jours, il voulait te faire payer la consultation des programmes ( qui reste gratuit sur le web ) ..parce que tele 7 jours se vend bien et qu entre abonnement et pub, ils en tirent un large benef ......... je crois que plutot tout site de quotidien payant represente un journal qui se vend mal et qui rencontre des difficultes financieres ......donc question : le Figaro est en si mal posture ?
Tout ça n'est sûrement qu'une question de déontologie et /ou de fric! Même un journal comme l'Est Républicain fait payer la consultation de ses articles. Mais il est vrai que certains ont des photos. Ca peut le valoir!
… je comprends ton point de vu c'est la raison pour laquelle je ne voulais defendre personne…
Ce qu'il faut comprendre, c'est que la presse papier en France s'est faite bien du soucis ces dernieres années…les conditions éco ont pris du plomb dans l'aile, les gratuits info type Metro ont poussés comme des champignons, les nececités d'investissements dans les traitements numeriques ont souvent été lourds, et les guerres de capital ont fait rage…
Avec la consultation payante sur le web…on assiste à une volonté probablement syndicale d'uniformiser le marché sur le territoire, evitant ainsi des pertes seches dues aux consultations num.à defaut d'achat papier…
Il y a de fortes chances que dans l'avenir la presse Française cadre son mode de commercialisation/consultation sur celui de l'ensemble…mais le marché doit être mûre pour ça …ce qui impliquera evidemment plus de pub sur les pages…et peut être même dans le corps des articles…allez donc savoir…
De toutes façons sachez bien que Lagardere et Dassault le les deux qui detiennent
le quasi monopole de la presse papier en France…!
une âme d'aventuriere ne peut se rejouir enracinée dans son quotidien…
Je trouve ca trés bien que la presse écrite qoit aussi payante sur internet ... je m'explique:
En effet quand on est a l'étranger et en plus dans un pays ou l'information est difficile à trouver (la chine en particulier), c'est agréable de pouvoir consulter les infos fraiche et fiable, voire bien documenter ...
Si la consultion était gratuite le site en patirais grandement, et donc les infos serait moins claire ..., de ce faite je trouve egalement toutes les même infos que sur mon journale papier et en plus avec pas mal d'autres chose (doc interactif, photo, forum, entretients/debat), sant parler pour le monde, d'un bureau perso avec les articles sur les sujets qui m'interesse ... et d'autres super fonctionaliter, oui je peille mon abonnement au monde en france, que mon père ressoit, mais que j'utilise pour le net ....
Philo
"J'ai refait tous les calculs, notre projet est irréalisable, il ne nous reste plus qu'une chose à faire, le réaliser". Latecoere
dyslexique
Non il y'as une grande différence entre voyageforum.com et lemonde.fr, et fort heureusement..., VF n'est pas une entreprise à but lucratifs..., lemonde.fr oui...
J'ai travailler pour le site d'une grande chaine de télévision francaise .., le site était gratuit oui, mais frenchement pourrit au niveau de l'information pourquoi, par ce que l'on ne se préocupait que d'une chose, les petie du site qui ramenait de l'argent (des pub) donc les jeux, les trucs people ...
Deplus pour en revenir à VF si tu veut VF sans pub tu peut payer un petit montant à Francois ...
Pour l'accès à l'infos, chaques pays a ca propre ligne de conduite et habitude voila tous... aumoins garce au web en payant ou non on a accès libre à l'info ...
Dans le même genre d'idée tu trouve sa normal de télécharger des film sur internet gratuitement, bas oui ils sont dispo en salle, pourquoi je devraie les payer sur le net ...
Philo
"J'ai refait tous les calculs, notre projet est irréalisable, il ne nous reste plus qu'une chose à faire, le réaliser". Latecoere
dyslexique
Mon Dieuuuuuuuuuuu, voila que le Figaro ( mais oui je reve ) vient de publier enfin un article a 20h53 h.fra sur la Bolivie ! La Bolivie, mais c est ou ca la Bolivie?
Encore heureux qu'ils soient connectes avec l'AFP sinon a part Figaro Madame et La bourse de Paris ...quoique ce soir la photo a la une c est Santini qui remplace Guy Roux a Auxerre ......oui oui je vous assure allez voir : www.lefigaro.fr
La Bolivie ? mais c est ou ? quoi qui nia la bas ? ah oui! Tintin et le temple du soleil ? mais non Ducon, ca c'est le Perou ..... ben alors la Bolivie c est quoi?
Pour le Monde, un peu plus serieux, ils ont un envoye special sur place ...un bon article a 14h22 : http://www.lemonde.fr/web/article/0, 1-0@2-3222, 36-659157@51-643387, 0.html
Bon alors la Bolivie, ce n'est pas la ou il y a le General Carioca ?
Pour le Monde, un peu plus serieux, ils ont un envoye special sur place ...un bon article a 14h22 : http://www.lemonde.fr/web/article/0, 1-0@2-3222, 36-659157@51-643387, 0.html
Personnellement, je trouve tout à fait normal que les journaux fassent payer une partie de leurs articles sur internet. Mais je croyais qu'en général il s'agissait d'un abonnement, et pas d'un prix au téléchargement.
Si certains journaux publient tout sur internet, c'est un choix, mais s'agit-il bien de l'intégralité de la version papier qui est alors publiée? Ou tout simplement de la non existence d'un service payant pour ceux qui voudraient plus que le service gratuit?
Et dans la préhistoire pré-internet, comment les gens faisaient-ils lorsqu'ils voulaient lire une partie du journal gratuitement? Ils allaient chez les marchands de journaux et lisaient en cachette? Aujourd'hui, grâce à la volonté de ces journaux, plus besoin de se cacher.
Et franchement, si l'intégralité d'un journal comme le Monde était disponible gratuitement en ligne, ce journal pourrait-il conserver ses abonnés? Comment paierait-il ses équipes et son matériel? Comment survivrait-il?
Et dans la préhistoire pré-internet, comment les gens faisaient-ils lorsqu'ils voulaient lire une partie du journal gratuitement? Ils allaient chez les marchands de journaux et lisaient en cachette?
Ah dans le registre des techniques de resquille j'ai vu beaucoup plus fort!
Un papé du centre ville d'Aix qui chaque jour piquait le journal…chez le m^eme commerçant😏…et chaque fois qu'il se faisait prendre dans le vertige du flagran delit…simulait le coup de Parkinson…et repartait son journal sous le bras…😏😏
tant l'assistance se mobilisait pour defendre ce pauvre papé dis…😄
une âme d'aventuriere ne peut se rejouir enracinée dans son quotidien…
1) Ce qui est etonnant, c'est qu en Argentine, les deux monstres de la presse ecrite : le Clarin et la Nacion ont d une part un fort tirage ( que tout le monde paye en achetant au kiosque ), d autre part le Clarin est le journal hispanophone au plus fort tirage ( surpassant le nb d exemplaire des journaux espagnols ou mexicains ), d'autre part en gardant l'exemple du Clarin, ils peuvent se permettre dans la meme journee de faire plusieurs editions papiers differentes en changeant les titres et les photos en fonction de l'actualite de la journee. La premiere edition arrive en kiosque vers 2h00 du matin sur Buenos Aires.... (en sortant du resto ou d une fete, on a deja le journal sous le bras en rentrant a la maison ). le Clarin coute entre 1, 30 ARS et 1, 50 ARS selon les jours ( divise par 3, 6 pour arriver a l euro ). Tout le monde achete le journal, tout le monde paye ........ et pourtant les deux journaux ont deux sites web incroyables ou tout est gratuit, y compris jusqu aux editions de 1997, (9 ans de memoire) ce qui permet gratuitement d'avoir acces a des millions de photos de statistiques et d articles qui ne sont pas des reprises de depeche AP ou AFP mais a de veritables articles.... Ils affichent en permanence le nombre de lecteur sur le site web ...il est 17h55, depuis 0h00 ce matin deja 1.500.000 de lecteurs sur le web ( tu comprendra qu en plus de la pub de l edition papier .....il gagne en plus de l argent avec les annonceurs sur l'edition web ) ...car le site web change constamment, donc tu dois le consulter plusieurs fois par jour pour connaitre les nouvelles, entre 7 et 10 articles nouveaux par heure arrivent sur le site en dehors des sujets deja traites dans l'edition du matin.
Bref quand je vois tout ca ....et que je consulte le Monde, le Figaro, ou Liberation comme je sens la France frileuse, encroutee, poussiereuse et archaique ( pour ne pas dire mesquine ) a vouloir te faire payer 4 Euros un article de l AFP de 300 mots !
Le Clarin :www.clarin.com
La Nacion : www.lanacion.com.ar
2) concernant la presse televisee, par curiosite je viens de regarder le journal de 20h00 de TF1 ( mercredi 8 juin 2005 ) en cherchant si ils parlaient tout de meme de la situation de la Bolivie en France ....
Bon ok, TF1 c'est quand meme TF1 mais tout de meme ...c est le journal le plus regardé en France ......penses tu a ne serait ce que 10 secondes sur la Bolivie ? non rien, pire que ca meme ! ce soir au journal de TF1, 19 sujets traités dont 19 sujets francais ...Cocorico ! Francais au dela des Pyrenees, des Alpes, du Rhin et de la Manche aujourd'hui RIEN ! NENI ! et apres on s'etonne que la France ait vote a 55% pour le non ? mais c est normal pour le francais, je parle de Mr tout le monde, pas celui qui a fait forcement des etudes, mais celui qui bosse depuis l age de 16 ans, que connait il de l Europe et du Monde si la presse lui balance a longueur de journee des infos locales ?
Je reviens au Clarin ...l Argentin de la rue, celui qui bosse aussi depuis l age de 16 ans, il a aussi le Clarin sous le bras, et pourtant lui il est encore plus pationné par le foot que le francais, ce qui explique au moins les 20 pages par jours dans le clarin sur Boca ou River et le match de ce soir contre le Bresil !, et pourtant durant tous les derniers jours du refrendum en France, 1 a 2 pages entiere par jour sur le referendum europeen dans le Clarin !
Aujourd'hui mercredi 8 juin 2005 : 14 ...oui je dis bien 14 articles sur la France dans le site du Clarin depuis le 1er juin ! Que ca soit Rolland Garros, le rugby, la politique de Rafarin ....et 76 articles sur la France depuis 3 mois dans le Clarin !
Un dernier truc avant de finir ici pour ce soir : Metro, le journal gratuit archi connu en France et en Europe, et qui fait tant peur a la presse payante ...................et aussi venu ici s installer en 2000 a Buenos Aires, 6 mois plus tard ce sont eux qui ont jete l eponge et sont repartis ! Ben oui, les argentins sont habitues a de vrais articles non pas a des depeches d AFP, car pour ca gratuitement il y a aussi Internet ! alors a quoi ca sert de lire Metro gratuit ? Metro en France a travers ses 9 editions a travers la France c'est 630.000 exemplaires gratuits par jour, Clarin c est un tirage de 1.000.000 d ex par jour uniquement dans une ville Buenos Aires et en plus payant !
Je cherche à comprendre car ça me semble très intéressant. Pourquoi le journal papier semble-t-il si important? S'informer sur le net n'est-il pas dans les moeurs? Les argentins lisent peut-être leurs journaux dehors, ensemble, ce que le net ne permettrait pas?
Je sais que personnellement, si je pouvais consulter l'intégralité d'un journal en ligne gratuitement, je ne m'y abonnerais pas. Le seul journal auquel je sois abonné est précisément un des seuls à ne pas avoir de site inernet, c'est le Canard Enchainé. Je pense que je m'y abonnerais quand même s'il était partiellement en ligne, car c'est un journal qu'on peut facilement lire en entier. Mais s'il était entièrement sur le net, je ne sais pas... Bon et puis c'est vrai que vivant à l'étranger, un journal français en papier c'est agréable. J'adore le lire dans le métro et jeter un coup d'oeil à la foule de chinois qui ont l'air fascinés par les nombreuses caricatures.
Bon, revenons-en au sujet. Le site du Monde est quand même régulièrement remis à jour, avec de nombreux articles qui font régulièrement leur apparition en plus des dépêches AFP dans un coin. D'après ce que tu me dis, il est loin de rivaliser avec les sites argentins, mais je trouve que la qualité est quand même plus que correcte pour un service gratuit.
Par contre, je trouve effectivement que faire payer 4 euros pour un petit article riquiqui, c'est exagéré. Mais j'ai quand même l'impression que la plupart des journaux en ligne proposent l'intégralité de leurs services en échange d'un abonnement forfaitaire. Mais je peux me tromper, je ne me suis jamais abonné.
Il y a bien de très nombreux cybers pas chers en Argentine, moi je n'y lisais que les news françaises... celles que je n'avais pas sur le journal papier. Qu'au demeurant je n'achetais pas systématiquement. Et tu as raison quand tu dis "S'informer sur le net n'est-il pas dans les moeurs? Les argentins lisent peut-être leurs journaux dehors, ensemble, ce que le net ne permettrait pas?".
Par ailleurs en province, on achète moins Clarin, car il arrive l'après-midi, coûte plus cher à des endroits où le coût de la vie est souvent plus bas... Donc on se contente des éditions locales, et si on ne le cherche pas on n'a pas tellement d'infos sur ce qui se passe sur les autres continents. Voir le site du journal local de Santiago del Estero, représentatif de l'édition papier...
Et pour répondre à une question d'Hergé plus haut, je ne crois pas en effet que Le Figaro soit dans une situation très confortable... La presse française en général a bien du mal, et Le Figaro n'est pas des mieux lotis.
Yo no busco la felicidad. Busco la libertad, porque ser libre es lo que me hace feliz.
Pour continuer la discussion de l'autre jour sur la veracite de l'info dans les medias, mais aussi sur la qualite des articles et l acces a l info....voila un nouvel exemple qui vient de tomber ; la liberation de la francaise Aubenas.
D une part, une fois de plus, bien qu a 12.000 km de Paris, les medias argentins ont lancé l info, ce qui est etonnant d'une part c est que les argentins etaient au courrant de cette affaire, d'autres part ils le publient donc l homme de la rue de Buenos Aires s y interresse...... Je fais donc le parallele entre les deux pays....pourquoi lors d une liberation d un otage argentin ou de tout autre affaire argentine......cela passe sous silence dans les medias francais ? Parce que le francais de la rue ne s interressent qu au problemes franco-francais ? Donc quelle vision a t il de la realite en dehors de ses propres frontieres, si la presse ne parle que d affaires locales ?
Les articles publiés par le Clarin et la Nacion sur la liberation d Aubenas :
D autre part, Consultant le site de Liberation en France, bien entendu ca fait la premiere page avec une edition speciale papier . Je comprend la joie de ses collegues du journal apres 150 jours d absence, mais en contreparti cette nouvelle eclipse totalement tout autre actualite. On n a pas affaire a de l info, nous commencons a avoir affaire a de la propagande, c'est a dire a gonfler un sujet benin mais sous l emprise de la passion lui donnant une envergure demesurée par rapport a ce qui se passe ce meme jour dimanche 12 juin en France ou ailleurs. ......Donc on passe sous silence l actualite pour gonfler une nouvelle de fait divers. Trop d emotion tue l information et la denature.
Ce soir en France, au journal de 20h00 ( TF1 ou F2) sur 40 minutes de journal televise quel sera la part de cette nouvelle dans la totalite des sujets abordes.
Dans toute cette discution, je ne sait toujours pas ce aui ce passe en bolivir... tu te plein de la france, tu devraie voir ici en chine frenchement ..., niveau nombrilisme, y as pire ailleur ...
Philo
"J'ai refait tous les calculs, notre projet est irréalisable, il ne nous reste plus qu'une chose à faire, le réaliser". Latecoere
dyslexique
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Hi everyone,
I’m Loulou, a French expat who’s been living in Southeast Asia for about fifteen years, currently in Phnom Penh, Cambodia. A passionate walker at heart, I’ve trekked in Nepal (Thorung La, Mardi Himal), India, Vietnam, and I’m still planning new hikes (Char Dham, Langtang, Annapurna).
I’ve just published my first travel journal, recounting three months of walking and encounters across India. A portion of the sales goes to an educational center I support in Kep, for children whose parents work in the salt marshes.
I’m also working on a second book about Nepal with a musician friend, focusing on the Mardi Himal trek—two independent perspectives on the same journey.
Happy to swap stories with you about the Himalayas, India, Southeast Asia, or just the urge to hit the road and walk far from home.
Safe travels,
Loulou
Hi! It was totally by chance that I stumbled upon VoyageForum (an ad online and a story lol), and I’ve been reading some really old posts from 2011 about Thai massage schools—discussions on how to get by, accommodation, prices, etc. It reminded me of my own experience: I kept things simple by staying with a local family during my entire trip. I only shared all the expenses with them, which, I’ll admit, was super cheap… and I often traveled with them, which naturally opened a lot of doors for me. To start, at the school in Salaya, my Thai friend immediately connected me with Teacher Phong (the school’s mentor and teacher of teachers, a former monk). I was supposed to join a group session with other foreigners, but for some reason I don’t know, I got two days of private lessons for free with this expert… incredible! And on top of that, he loved France! It was an amazing experience. I "discovered" massage by chance—the Thai family just told me: "Try it, you’ll see!" (I’d had a pretty intense massage in the capital before 😅… but the next day, I felt unbelievably great!))
Every morning, I’d take a taxi (chosen by the Thai family at prices that beat all the competition) to this school—I’ve forgotten the name of the little village now… right in the heart of the countryside. Then, in the evenings, I’d keep practicing massage on all the family members… and they’d teach me Thai at the same time!))
Since then, I’ve practiced a bit, with lots of positive feedback. Following Teacher Phong’s advice—he thought my pressure was deep, firm, and precise—he strongly encouraged me to take this seriously.
I love Thailand so much. It’s a whole different way of living… and it’s a real blessing, even if I couldn’t live there full-time. Anyway, that was an unforgettable memory, and sometimes the Thai family and I still say hi—from 2011, 2013… right up to today!
Who’d like to share their best and worst travel memories in a few lines?
For me, it’s watching the TAJ MAHAL at sunrise and getting chased by dogs at the top of a mountain pass in GREECE on the way back from ISTANBUL.
THANKS GUYS
"It seems to me that poverty would be less painful in the sun" wrote Aznavour...
Not sure...😕 Who can prove that people in hot countries are happier than others?
What do you think?
Is it better to live in Montpellier than in Lille?
Are the Pygmies happier than the Inuit?
Are Canadians less happy than the people of Louisiana?
Are there more French expats in hot countries?
And your travels? Do you choose your destinations based on the climate?
Do you rejoice when a bit of sunshine appears?
Hi everyone, just this once I’m not posting for a travel story, but to share a thought for Venezuela.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed.
Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
hi there
I’d like to invite you to discover my coastal province in central Vietnam: Quang Ngai.
This year, my province has really improved its infrastructure—mountains, countryside, and sea are all authentic here.
No harassers or thieves, and no Russians either.
A local lunch costs around 1 €.
A *** hotel room is about 25 €, and you can find hotels right on My Khe Beach.
We have a specialty: *banh xeo*—10 crepes for just 1.5 €.
You can rent motorbikes to explore the province and maybe visit the many ethnic minorities.
I live here—I’m not selling anything, but I can help if needed (my father-in-law is a traditional Vietnamese doctor and he’s very skilled).
Hi everyone! 😉
I’m Typhaine, 35 years old. Five years ago, I left France for a solo round-the-world trip—no planes, just a van, hitchhiking, cycling, and even a canoe in the Amazon! Today, I work as a naturalist guide in Argentine Patagonia.
Wherever I go, my compass stays the same: observing and photographing wildlife, which I deeply admire and respect.
My project: I’d love to share this experience through a sustainable, authentic, and immersive nature tourism initiative. But to build something meaningful, I need to understand how other nature enthusiasts experience their own adventures.
If you:
Are over 20 years old
Have a true passion for Nature
Have already taken at least one trip lasting more than 3 nights (in your country or abroad) in your life
Promise: I’m not selling anything, this isn’t marketing. Your answers are 100% anonymous and will only help me shape this wild project.
A huge thank you to everyone for your help and kindness! Looking forward to chatting in this thread 😛
(Dear admins, this is purely a collaborative effort for my project study, with no commercial purpose. Thank you so much for your support!)
Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question.
They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕
Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
I spent 3 weeks in Bali last summer (+ 3 nights on Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java). So I wanted to see what ChatGPT could suggest for comparison...
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.).
Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did.
I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights
Sidemen (2 nights)
Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights
Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed
Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran
Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights
Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD:
- Walk around central Ubud (1–2h)
- Campuhan Ridge Walk
- Tegalalang Rice Terrace
- Tirta Empul
- Gunung Kawi
- Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN:
- Rice terrace hike (2–3h)
- Cooking class
IN AMED:
- Snorkeling
- Japanese Shipwreck
- Beach + relaxation
- Volcano sunset
ON GILI:
- Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK:
- Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall
- Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level)
- Ulun Danu Bratan Temple
- Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN
- Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well:
👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option
12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM)
1 PM: ferry
3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer
11 PM: start ascent
2 AM–6 AM: volcano
Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM)
👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency
💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR:
- Relaxation
- Quiet beach
- Proximity to airport (30 min)"
I’ve kept the habit of blowing my nose in the sink and then washing my hands—a custom I picked up in India. Sometimes, non-travelers are shocked when they catch me in the act... 🤪
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
After taking a little trip around the world, I came back a few months ago with an idea in mind.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays
where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya).
There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
As part of my Master’s thesis, I’m currently conducting a public survey on a topic that concerns all of us when planning a trip: artificial intelligence and the role of human contact in travel planning.
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
While browsing the forum to gather info for my upcoming trip to Thailand, I often see the terms "traveler," "great traveler," and also "tourist"—so what’s the nuance for you?
I've traveled quite a bit in Vietnam over the past few years—from the southern delta to bustling cities and even some small islands—but what really sticks with me is the north, the high mountains.
Up there, there's something different—maybe slower, more raw. The morning markets with ethnic groups, women in traditional clothes, the colors...
The stilt houses, kids following you and laughing for no reason, the terraced rice fields—it almost feels unreal at times, so vast and quiet, yet so human and simple.
You often hear that Sapa has become too touristy, and that's partly true, especially in the center. But as soon as you move a little farther away, everything changes quickly. The landscapes open up, encounters feel more natural, and you rediscover something truly authentic.
I think it's that contrast that struck me—the difference between what you imagine before going and what you actually discover when you take the time.
And you—what memory do you hold onto from Vietnam? A particular place that touched you more than others?
Hello,
We’re finalizing the plans for our upcoming trip to China in May 2025. The second-to-last stop will be in Zhangjiajie, where we’ve planned to stay for 2 full days before heading to Shanghai.
We’re traveling solo using local transport and have arranged to stay in the city of Zhangjiajie.
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see:
Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees.
We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain.
But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore.
A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Hi everyone, here’s our itinerary. Arriving on the evening of December 13th. Departing on January 7th.
Thanks in advance for your tips and valuable feedback.
Manila – 1 night
Coron – 4 nights
Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights
El Nido – 4 nights
Port Barton – 5 nights
Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan
Vigan – 2 nights
Sagada – 2 nights
Banaue – 2 nights
Bagabag – 1 night
Manila – 1 night
I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Really disappointed with Costa Rica! Pura vida? The scam of the century!
(Costa Rica pure emptiness).
The country where animals are free and people are in cages.
3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer.
Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness.
My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place.
On the main routes, we visited:
San José
Alajuela
Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side)
Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side)
And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched.
He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown.
What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor.
At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José:
It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken.
On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox.
From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire.
Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets.
Bars with security guards out front.
I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel.
The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses.
The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in.
A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park.
Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further.
We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it.
A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces.
A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures.
But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business.
Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse!
According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable.
Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos.
A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park!
A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park.
The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color.
Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded!
Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30.
The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches.
As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves.
A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!"
For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex!
The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for?
For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places.
In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs:
Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you.
For everyone else: run!
Hello,
Since the war between Russia and Ukraine, nothing is simple anymore for traveling to Belarus due to sanctions.
No more direct flights from the EU to Minsk.
Driving is a huge hassle, especially crossing through Poland at the only open border in Brest—you can wait 2, 3, or even 4 days just to get through by car.
The least painful driving option is to come via Lithuania and cross at the only open border, with a minimum wait time of 8 hours, sometimes up to 20 hours or more!!
Controls are very strict and annoying on both the Lithuanian and Belarusian sides. Avoid bringing alcohol, food, or cigarettes—everything will end up in the trash, especially when leaving Belarus for Vilnius, where the Lithuanians are tough, even with EU citizens.
The joy I once knew when visiting my wife in Minsk is sadly over—it’s now a real ordeal.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example.
For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk.
The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border.
The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times.
Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot).
For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border.
You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes.
From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??).
With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!!
For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations.
However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards.
Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future.
After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
Hi everyone!
I’m putting together our travel itinerary for Veneto at the end of April. And the more I look and research potential sites to visit, the more I find!
We’ll only be there for a week—my family and I—including 3 days in Venice. So we have to make some choices...
I plan to rent a car when we arrive in Venice and head straight to Bergamo, which would be our first stop. We’d leave the car at the airport when we return to Venice so we can explore the city at our leisure.
What do you think:
1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport),
1 night in Garda,
1 night in Verona,
1 in Padua, and
3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
Now that the curtain has fallen on the past year, it’s time to see what’s happening around here.
It seems pretty quiet, but I’ll read more in detail later.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year.
I told her:
“Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.”
“But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.”
I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk.
“Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.”
I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen.
“Mamido, I did it!”
My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no!
“Congratulations, sweetheart!”
A little shyly, she said:
“Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying:
“Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint!
But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out.
Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me.
But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back.
My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special?
That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
I’ve visited the U.S. four times myself, including two long road trips. The last one was just this past August...
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
Hello everyone,
Controversial topic? Not necessarily—maybe just a reflection on a world to come.
I spent the last 15 days of August on a cruise in Greenland, from Kangerlussuaq to Tasiilaq.
I was utterly amazed by this unique world of rock and ice, the little houses in every color, a simple life that’s also complicated by isolation and climate, among other things...
I carry in my heart the kindness of the people I met, the raw and gentle majesty of the icebergs, the colors of the sky...
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
We’re a couple aged 58 and 63. We’ve just returned from a wonderful trip to South India in Tamil Nadu and a few days in Kerala. We traveled with a local French-speaking guide and his friend, the driver. They both live in Pondicherry. We spent 3 weeks with them in the most authentic way!
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like!
M-Claire and Jean
This catchy and somewhat mysterious title comes from several questions I’ve been asking myself.
VF has been back open for a reasonable number of weeks and months now.
The number of visitors overall matches past averages, but the number of members online in the last 24 hours seems relatively lower than what we used to see.
Yet, to my surprise, I’m seeing fewer travel journals, way fewer messages, and way fewer questions.
I don’t see many new registered users online, and I notice a number of members who are logged in but either aren’t participating or have stopped participating.
Something’s not adding up for me because, in my opinion, VF is still appealing, and I don’t see which other sites could really compete.
Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid?
Does it just take more time for some people to discover the site or learn that it’s active again?
Do people now prefer quick consumption on sites like FB or others I’m not familiar with?
Where have the site’s old-timers gone, and what are they doing with their time now?
What’s really going on here?
This isn’t exactly a traveler’s question... I’d like to know who handles the technical side of this forum?
I run a similar forum on a different topic (unrecognized children), and we’re dealing with a few technical issues that are slowly killing our forum... so I’d have one or two questions to ask 😊.
Also, I was wondering who created this forum... who the administrators or moderators are, etc.
I think this forum is great. Much better than Facebook, which I’ve been using since it shut down (so I’m happy to see it’s working again...)