qu'en est t'il des rapprochements de compagnies aupres de skyteam, one world ou star alliance? quel compagnies sont en négocations? pour un un retrait d'ailleurs ou une adhésion. D'ailleurs le retrait de continentale de skyteam au profit va t'il etre compensé en nombre ?(aux états unis c 'est peut etre plus discutable étant donné le partenariat déjà existant)? argentine?
Skyteam, one world, star alliance
by Offcm
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comme d'habitude il y a des rumeur de départ et d'adhéson des compagnies a ses groupe de fidélisation et de mise en commun de moyen.
Si on excepte continentale et mexicana, apres ses rumeurs ne reste justement souvent que des rumeurs.
qu'en est t'il des rapprochements de compagnies aupres de skyteam, one world ou star alliance? quel compagnies sont en négocations? pour un un retrait d'ailleurs ou une adhésion. D'ailleurs le retrait de continentale de skyteam au profit va t'il etre compensé en nombre ?(aux états unis c 'est peut etre plus discutable étant donné le partenariat déjà existant)? argentine?
qu'en est t'il des rapprochements de compagnies aupres de skyteam, one world ou star alliance? quel compagnies sont en négocations? pour un un retrait d'ailleurs ou une adhésion. D'ailleurs le retrait de continentale de skyteam au profit va t'il etre compensé en nombre ?(aux états unis c 'est peut etre plus discutable étant donné le partenariat déjà existant)? argentine?
Euh, tu peux la refaire en français ta question? Car Continentale n'existe pas...
Et ta questione st ambigüe, même si on comprend ce que tu veux...
Voyager, c'est ma devise...
Tout dépend aussi des fusions. En Europe, BMI va être racheter par Lufthansa, et devrait par la suite fusionné avec Virgin Atlantic. Elle rentrerait donc dans la Star Alliance du même coup.
Après pour le reste, rien de concret et rien de nouveau, il suffit juste de regarder ce qui a été dit sur le sujet sur le forum!
La guerre salit tous ceux qui la font: au fil des mois et des années, j'ai vu les deux bords verser dans le mal, j'ai vu le mal affronté le mal, et le bien, ce qu'il y'a de bon dans l'humain, devenir la victime des deux.
Coté supposition il y aurait SN chez Star également... ils sont en cours de rachat par LH. Pour ce qui est de BMI, VS, SN la question est : vont ils garder leur propre programme de fidélisation ou passer sous Miles&More comme LX et OS. Le programme de BMI étant particulierement prisé de certains voyageurs réguliers...
Apres toujours les rumeurs de Malaysia et Vietman Airlines chez Skyteam... et celle de China Airlines dans la meme Alliance...
Coté Amérique du nord, la disprition de NWA qui passera sous les couleurs de Delta, mais restera effectivement la seule compagnie Skyteam du pays apres le départ de Continental.
Coté Canada, des rumeurs de voir Westjet, concurrent d'Air Canada en domestique/Amérique du nord, se rapprocher de One World.
Apres toujours les rumeurs de Malaysia et Vietman Airlines chez Skyteam... et celle de China Airlines dans la meme Alliance...
Coté Amérique du nord, la disprition de NWA qui passera sous les couleurs de Delta, mais restera effectivement la seule compagnie Skyteam du pays apres le départ de Continental.
Coté Canada, des rumeurs de voir Westjet, concurrent d'Air Canada en domestique/Amérique du nord, se rapprocher de One World.
https://www.continental.com/web/fr/default.aspx?POS=FR&SID=730380426096468F87CBD06384458197
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Pour SN, c'est quasiment certain en effet qu'elle rejoigne la Star Alliance..
Si le rachat de BMI se fait, ce qui est en très bonne voie, je trouve que décidement, LH deviendra trop puisante en Europe. Lufthansa, Swiss, Austrian, BMI(qui est en bonne voie pour fusionner avec Virgin Atlantic)..
Un peu comme si Air France fusionnerait avec Austrian et Alitalia, je trouve qu'elle serait trop puissante, ce qui n'est jamais bon pour le consommateur... Qui vivra verra.. Mais il est vrai que la Star Alliance commence à devenir puissante, peut être trop puissante à mon goût.. Un peu comme Skyteam si Continental était resté et que les 3 était devenu partenaire, ce qui n'a jamais été vraiment le cas..
La guerre salit tous ceux qui la font: au fil des mois et des années, j'ai vu les deux bords verser dans le mal, j'ai vu le mal affronté le mal, et le bien, ce qu'il y'a de bon dans l'humain, devenir la victime des deux.
En Europe, BMI va être racheter par Lufthansa, et devrait par la suite fusionné avec Virgin Atlantic. Elle rentrerait donc dans la Star Alliance du même coup
BMI fait déjà partie de * Alliance depuis juillet 2000.
BMI fait déjà partie de * Alliance depuis juillet 2000.
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Mais skyteam n'aurai pas interet et recruté en europe aussi? surtout quand on voit le réseau de star alliance?
beaucoup de rumeur pour ds partenaires asiatiques par contre...
et etihad ou emirates qui sont des compagnies de qualitées ne sont pas dans alliances (enfin de ce que j'ai cru comprendre), ne serai t'il pas interessant pour eux de trouver des partenaires? soutout skyteam aurai une ouverture sur le moyen orient avec ses compagnies même si leurs marché intérieur n'est pas extraordinaire à mon avis.
et etihad ou emirates qui sont des compagnies de qualitées ne sont pas dans alliances (enfin de ce que j'ai cru comprendre), ne serai t'il pas interessant pour eux de trouver des partenaires? soutout skyteam aurai une ouverture sur le moyen orient avec ses compagnies même si leurs marché intérieur n'est pas extraordinaire à mon avis.
Je le sais, je parlais de Virgin. En terme de poid financier, ce serait Virgin qui prendrait le contrôle de BMI logiquement, puisqu'en terme de CA, celle-ci est trois fois plus grosse, le contraire est possible aussi mais moins logique. Et dans ce cas là, l'entrée dans la Star Alliance ne serait pas forcement logique
La guerre salit tous ceux qui la font: au fil des mois et des années, j'ai vu les deux bords verser dans le mal, j'ai vu le mal affronté le mal, et le bien, ce qu'il y'a de bon dans l'humain, devenir la victime des deux.
Mais skyteam n'aurai pas interet et recruté en europe aussi?
Oui mais recruté qui? La plupart des compagnies principales font déjà parti d'alliance et le reste sont des compagnies de très petite taille ne présentant pas grand interêt. Qui plus est, les plus petites compagnies sont aussi les plus fragiles par les temps qui courent, et s'enrhumé est vite arrivé. EN clair, un nombre important de petite compagnie vont couler.
et etihad ou emirates qui sont des compagnies de qualitées ne sont pas dans alliances
A part du Codeshare sur certaines lignes, cela n'ira pas plus loin, elle rentre trop en concurrence entre elle, et ne s'apporterait pas grand chose mutuellement. Les compagnies du golfe veulent grossir en prenant des parts de marché aux européennes, dans ce cas de figure, je ne vois pas comment elle pourrait faire fonctionner leur business model trop différent
Oui mais recruté qui? La plupart des compagnies principales font déjà parti d'alliance et le reste sont des compagnies de très petite taille ne présentant pas grand interêt. Qui plus est, les plus petites compagnies sont aussi les plus fragiles par les temps qui courent, et s'enrhumé est vite arrivé. EN clair, un nombre important de petite compagnie vont couler.
et etihad ou emirates qui sont des compagnies de qualitées ne sont pas dans alliances
A part du Codeshare sur certaines lignes, cela n'ira pas plus loin, elle rentre trop en concurrence entre elle, et ne s'apporterait pas grand chose mutuellement. Les compagnies du golfe veulent grossir en prenant des parts de marché aux européennes, dans ce cas de figure, je ne vois pas comment elle pourrait faire fonctionner leur business model trop différent
La guerre salit tous ceux qui la font: au fil des mois et des années, j'ai vu les deux bords verser dans le mal, j'ai vu le mal affronté le mal, et le bien, ce qu'il y'a de bon dans l'humain, devenir la victime des deux.
A part du Codeshare sur certaines lignes, cela n'ira pas plus loin, elle rentre trop en concurrence entre elle, et ne s'apporterait pas grand chose mutuellement.
Qatar Airways a deja des accords avec Lufthansa sur la validité des progammes de fidélité et des vols en code share. Peut etre pas une alliance entre compagnies du golfe, mais l'entrée de ces compagnies dans les trois alliances existantes... Mais pour l'instant elles ont l'air de bien se développer en solo. Malgré un réseau mondial incomplet, elles sont néanmoins positionnées sur un flux de passagers (Europe/Amérique du nord - Moyen Orient/Asie/Oceanie) tres important !
Qatar Airways a deja des accords avec Lufthansa sur la validité des progammes de fidélité et des vols en code share. Peut etre pas une alliance entre compagnies du golfe, mais l'entrée de ces compagnies dans les trois alliances existantes... Mais pour l'instant elles ont l'air de bien se développer en solo. Malgré un réseau mondial incomplet, elles sont néanmoins positionnées sur un flux de passagers (Europe/Amérique du nord - Moyen Orient/Asie/Oceanie) tres important !
Mais pour l'instant elles ont l'air de bien se développer en solo
C'est un peu le problème en effet, qui pousse à dire qu'aujourd'hui aucune décision ne se prendra sur une possible entrée de ces compagnies. Les alliances sont parfois assez exigeantes avec les nouveaux entrants car ils jugent que cela les concurrencent trop, comme par exemple Air France et la RAM.. Et c'est un peu le cas pour ces "nouvelles" compagnies du golfe..
C'est un peu le problème en effet, qui pousse à dire qu'aujourd'hui aucune décision ne se prendra sur une possible entrée de ces compagnies. Les alliances sont parfois assez exigeantes avec les nouveaux entrants car ils jugent que cela les concurrencent trop, comme par exemple Air France et la RAM.. Et c'est un peu le cas pour ces "nouvelles" compagnies du golfe..
La guerre salit tous ceux qui la font: au fil des mois et des années, j'ai vu les deux bords verser dans le mal, j'ai vu le mal affronté le mal, et le bien, ce qu'il y'a de bon dans l'humain, devenir la victime des deux.
Les alliances sont parfois assez exigeantes avec les nouveaux entrants car ils jugent que cela les concurrencent trop, comme par exemple Air France et la RAM.. .
Je ne vous ressortirai pas le "débat" Malaysian chez Skyteam... de trop bonne qualité qui risque de faire de l'ombre à AF et justifie le refus d'entrée dans l'alliance, selon une théorie...
Pour RAM... le hic est que la compagnie est partie voir le voisin, Oneworld !! Alors peut etre qu'un nouvel entrant peut faire de l'ombre... en attendant n'est ce pas mieux de le controler ??
Je ne vous ressortirai pas le "débat" Malaysian chez Skyteam... de trop bonne qualité qui risque de faire de l'ombre à AF et justifie le refus d'entrée dans l'alliance, selon une théorie...
Pour RAM... le hic est que la compagnie est partie voir le voisin, Oneworld !! Alors peut etre qu'un nouvel entrant peut faire de l'ombre... en attendant n'est ce pas mieux de le controler ??
Bonjour !
Depuis un an ca a pas mal bougé, et ca va bouger encore avec des nouveaux entrants dans chaques alliances pendant l'année 2010 ! Les programmes de fidelisations ont aussi changé, ou ont été modifié... etc...
Que pensez-vous maintenant ? Selon vos critères personnels à tous ici, quelle serait l'alliance la plus performante ??
Merci !
Depuis un an ca a pas mal bougé, et ca va bouger encore avec des nouveaux entrants dans chaques alliances pendant l'année 2010 ! Les programmes de fidelisations ont aussi changé, ou ont été modifié... etc...
Que pensez-vous maintenant ? Selon vos critères personnels à tous ici, quelle serait l'alliance la plus performante ??
Merci !
Bonjour,
Au contraire l'entrée de VS chez Star Alliance(SA) serais logique puisque SQ possède 49% du capital de VS.
Quand au jeu des chaises musical, il est très probable que JL passe de One World(OW) a Sky Team(ST) si DL les achètes.
Réponse à Damass974
Tout dépend de vos habitudes de voyage et de la classe de voyage.
OW et SA sont toutes les 2 performantes pour un voyager sur les 5 continents. ST sont gros point noir c'est l'Australie & la Nouvelle-Zélande.
Pour un billet TDM clairement je conseil SA c'est les moins restrictifs des 3. De plus SA a dans son giron SQ, TG, LH, LX, et NH qui sont réputé pour leurs excellences.
OW, le plus c'est BA. Depuis l'Europe vous pourrez voyager sans problèmes partout avec d'excellent tarifs depuis Londres.
Hiroko
Au contraire l'entrée de VS chez Star Alliance(SA) serais logique puisque SQ possède 49% du capital de VS.
Quand au jeu des chaises musical, il est très probable que JL passe de One World(OW) a Sky Team(ST) si DL les achètes.
Réponse à Damass974
Tout dépend de vos habitudes de voyage et de la classe de voyage.
OW et SA sont toutes les 2 performantes pour un voyager sur les 5 continents. ST sont gros point noir c'est l'Australie & la Nouvelle-Zélande.
Pour un billet TDM clairement je conseil SA c'est les moins restrictifs des 3. De plus SA a dans son giron SQ, TG, LH, LX, et NH qui sont réputé pour leurs excellences.
OW, le plus c'est BA. Depuis l'Europe vous pourrez voyager sans problèmes partout avec d'excellent tarifs depuis Londres.
Hiroko
Pour JL dans Skyteam, c'est sur le point d'arriver, si l'on en croit le Figaro de Lundi : http://www.lefigaro.fr/societes/2009/12/21/04015-20091221ARTFIG00531-japan-airlines-sur-le-point-de-rejoindre-skyteam-.php Skyteam investirait un peu moins de 800 millions d'euros pour renflouer JAL, en contrepartie d'une éventuelle adhésion.
Pour Malaysian dans Skyteam, c'est un peu le serpent de mer dont on parle depuis une éternité. Je n'ai jamais compris l'intérêt d'AF à refuser ceci: certains parlent du codeshare QF sur SIN/BKK-SYD, qui serait concurrencé par la venue de MH dans l'alliance, mais est-ce une raison suffisante ?
N'était-il pas question également de 9W dans oneworld et IT dans Skyteam, il y a quelques temps ?
Par contre iroko944, je serais plus réservé que vous sur la question des billets RTW : si l'on veut voyager en J ou P, ok, Star Alliance offre des opportunités très intéressantes avec des compagnies de renom. Maintenant, si l'on veut faire un "vrai" tour du monde, il me semble que les opportunités d'oneworld sont plus attirantes, notamment avec les accès vers l'Océanie (Australie, Ch. Island, Nelle Calédonie, Fidji, Polynésie...)et l'Amérique du Sud qu'offrent respectivement Qantas et LAN. Mais bon, c'est une question de goût, et après tout, Star Alliance rattrape son retard avec l'entrée de JJ pour couvrir l'Amérique latine.
Pour Malaysian dans Skyteam, c'est un peu le serpent de mer dont on parle depuis une éternité. Je n'ai jamais compris l'intérêt d'AF à refuser ceci: certains parlent du codeshare QF sur SIN/BKK-SYD, qui serait concurrencé par la venue de MH dans l'alliance, mais est-ce une raison suffisante ?
N'était-il pas question également de 9W dans oneworld et IT dans Skyteam, il y a quelques temps ?
Par contre iroko944, je serais plus réservé que vous sur la question des billets RTW : si l'on veut voyager en J ou P, ok, Star Alliance offre des opportunités très intéressantes avec des compagnies de renom. Maintenant, si l'on veut faire un "vrai" tour du monde, il me semble que les opportunités d'oneworld sont plus attirantes, notamment avec les accès vers l'Océanie (Australie, Ch. Island, Nelle Calédonie, Fidji, Polynésie...)et l'Amérique du Sud qu'offrent respectivement Qantas et LAN. Mais bon, c'est une question de goût, et après tout, Star Alliance rattrape son retard avec l'entrée de JJ pour couvrir l'Amérique latine.
Au contraire l'entrée de VS chez Star Alliance(SA) serais logique puisque SQ possède 49% du capital de VS.
SQ dans *A ?? Quelle nouvelle !! Plaisanterie à part, elle semble être la compagnie qui joue le moins le jeu de l'alliance. Regardes le nombre de code share, il est très très faible ! Les avantages semblent être limités à l'acces aux programmes de fidélités réciproques et aux avantages statut.
Pour VS il y aurait d'autre raisons pour leur entrée dans *A : LH a désormais racheté BD qui a un reseau très complémentaire de VS. C'est aussi un serpent de mer cette fusion, mais VS donnerait une compagnie résidente au hub * de LHR.
OW, le plus c'est BA.
Exact, sauf que pour un voyageur loisir, les programmes de fidélité de one world ne sont pas très attractifs !
SQ dans *A ?? Quelle nouvelle !! Plaisanterie à part, elle semble être la compagnie qui joue le moins le jeu de l'alliance. Regardes le nombre de code share, il est très très faible ! Les avantages semblent être limités à l'acces aux programmes de fidélités réciproques et aux avantages statut.
Pour VS il y aurait d'autre raisons pour leur entrée dans *A : LH a désormais racheté BD qui a un reseau très complémentaire de VS. C'est aussi un serpent de mer cette fusion, mais VS donnerait une compagnie résidente au hub * de LHR.
OW, le plus c'est BA.
Exact, sauf que pour un voyageur loisir, les programmes de fidélité de one world ne sont pas très attractifs !
Pour résumer ce que j'ai pu comprendre sur les changements :
- Dans One World :
Mexicana (déjà fait) rentre dans OW
S7 (compagnie russe) : Entrée dans l'alliance en 2010 avec BA comme "sponsor"
- Dans Star Alliance : TAM, Air india et Aegean devraient joindre Star Alliance Le monstre va donc grossir encore et encore...
- Dans SkyTeam : Tarom devrait rentrer dans SkyTeam en 2010 VietNam Airlines rentre dans l'alliance en Juin 2010 Baboo va t'il rentrer dans ST ?😉😛 (On cumule déjà des miles FB alors pourquoi pas !) Pour JAL je ne sais pas si c'est du sur sachant que OneWorld et AA notamment auraient fait une proposition pour faire rester JAL dans OW...
- Dans Star Alliance : TAM, Air india et Aegean devraient joindre Star Alliance Le monstre va donc grossir encore et encore...
- Dans SkyTeam : Tarom devrait rentrer dans SkyTeam en 2010 VietNam Airlines rentre dans l'alliance en Juin 2010 Baboo va t'il rentrer dans ST ?😉😛 (On cumule déjà des miles FB alors pourquoi pas !) Pour JAL je ne sais pas si c'est du sur sachant que OneWorld et AA notamment auraient fait une proposition pour faire rester JAL dans OW...
Mes vols en 2010 : http://openflights.org/user/palmanfr
- Dans Star Alliance :
TAM, Air india et Aegean devraient joindre Star Alliance
Le monstre va donc grossir encore et encore...
Et Brussels Airlines vient d'y rentrer.
- Dans SkyTeam : Tarom devrait rentrer dans SkyTeam en 2010 VietNam Airlines rentre dans l'alliance en Juin 2010
TAROM rentre en tant que membre associé, pas en tant que membre à part entière. Garuda doit rejoindre SkyTeam en 2011.
Et Brussels Airlines vient d'y rentrer.
- Dans SkyTeam : Tarom devrait rentrer dans SkyTeam en 2010 VietNam Airlines rentre dans l'alliance en Juin 2010
TAROM rentre en tant que membre associé, pas en tant que membre à part entière. Garuda doit rejoindre SkyTeam en 2011.
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Il me semble également avoir entendu parler d'une autre rumeur, qui tient plus de la boule de cristal que de la certitude: Cathay pourrait éventuellement être amenée à quitter oneworld , visiblement pour *A ?
Slash, je suis sur que tu as entendu parler d'un truc comme ça dans les tuyaux...
Slash, je suis sur que tu as entendu parler d'un truc comme ça dans les tuyaux...
Pas au courant non. Un membre fondateur qui quitte le navire, ça ferait quand même assez mauvais genre...
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Bonjour,
Je ne voyais pas ça du point de vue services en J, P mais d'un point de vus de non restriction. Je m'explique;
ST : Obligation de faire l'Australie avant l'Asie en venant des USA.
OW : Limitation dans le nombres d'escales dans une même zone géographique. Je ne me souvient plus du nombres.
SA : Aucune de ces limites.
Toutes les trois ont par contre une limitation à 16 coupons. Secteur terrestre inclue.
Hiroko
Je ne voyais pas ça du point de vue services en J, P mais d'un point de vus de non restriction. Je m'explique;
ST : Obligation de faire l'Australie avant l'Asie en venant des USA.
OW : Limitation dans le nombres d'escales dans une même zone géographique. Je ne me souvient plus du nombres.
SA : Aucune de ces limites.
Toutes les trois ont par contre une limitation à 16 coupons. Secteur terrestre inclue.
Hiroko
Bonjour,
Merci pour toutes vos reponses, je vais enregistrer tout ca et me faire une nouvelle opinion ! Bien qu'elle ne sera pas si nouvelle que ca ... 😇
Merci !
Merci pour toutes vos reponses, je vais enregistrer tout ca et me faire une nouvelle opinion ! Bien qu'elle ne sera pas si nouvelle que ca ... 😇
Merci !
Bonjour,
Au contraire l'entrée de VS chez Star Alliance(SA) serais logique puisque SQ possède 49% du capital de VS.
Quand au jeu des chaises musical, il est très probable que JL passe de One World(OW) a Sky Team(ST) si DL les achètes.
Bonjour, Je n'ai jamais dit le contraire. Ce que je ne souhaite pas voir, c'est l'émergence d'une compagnie comme Lufthansa qui grandit et qui à coup d'acquisition devient un pilier de plus en plus puissant en Europe, voir trop puissant. Si cela voyait le jour, le groupe Lufthansa serait: Lufthansa, Swiss, Brussel Airlines, Austrian Airlines, BMI/Virgin. Surtout que LH est aussi sur les rangs pour SAS. Et si Air France avait racheté Austrian et serait sur les rangs pour racheter BMI, mon discours serait le même. Lufthansa pèserait au bas mot quasiment 40 milliards d'€ dans le cas présent. L'emergence de "super groupe" n'est jamais très bon pour le consommateur et si c'est dans 10 ans, c'est pour avoir, 3 groupes en Europe et 3 low cost (vers quoi on se destine), les prix ne seront pas forcement orientés à la baisse.
Apparemment Lufthansa et Virgin Atlantic s'allierait pour prendre le contrôle de BMI. Virgin Atlantic et BMI fusionnerait tandis que Lufthansa deviendrait un des actionnaires les plus importants de VS. Surtout que SQ serait "ouvert" par vendre sa part dans VS, ce qui laisserait le champ libre à Lufthansa.
Sinon pour l'anecdote, une autre compagnie était intéressé par BMI, elle s'appelle Air Berlin sauf que vu son endettement, ça serait un projet un peu suicidaire..
Au contraire l'entrée de VS chez Star Alliance(SA) serais logique puisque SQ possède 49% du capital de VS.
Quand au jeu des chaises musical, il est très probable que JL passe de One World(OW) a Sky Team(ST) si DL les achètes.
Bonjour, Je n'ai jamais dit le contraire. Ce que je ne souhaite pas voir, c'est l'émergence d'une compagnie comme Lufthansa qui grandit et qui à coup d'acquisition devient un pilier de plus en plus puissant en Europe, voir trop puissant. Si cela voyait le jour, le groupe Lufthansa serait: Lufthansa, Swiss, Brussel Airlines, Austrian Airlines, BMI/Virgin. Surtout que LH est aussi sur les rangs pour SAS. Et si Air France avait racheté Austrian et serait sur les rangs pour racheter BMI, mon discours serait le même. Lufthansa pèserait au bas mot quasiment 40 milliards d'€ dans le cas présent. L'emergence de "super groupe" n'est jamais très bon pour le consommateur et si c'est dans 10 ans, c'est pour avoir, 3 groupes en Europe et 3 low cost (vers quoi on se destine), les prix ne seront pas forcement orientés à la baisse.
Apparemment Lufthansa et Virgin Atlantic s'allierait pour prendre le contrôle de BMI. Virgin Atlantic et BMI fusionnerait tandis que Lufthansa deviendrait un des actionnaires les plus importants de VS. Surtout que SQ serait "ouvert" par vendre sa part dans VS, ce qui laisserait le champ libre à Lufthansa.
Sinon pour l'anecdote, une autre compagnie était intéressé par BMI, elle s'appelle Air Berlin sauf que vu son endettement, ça serait un projet un peu suicidaire..
La guerre salit tous ceux qui la font: au fil des mois et des années, j'ai vu les deux bords verser dans le mal, j'ai vu le mal affronté le mal, et le bien, ce qu'il y'a de bon dans l'humain, devenir la victime des deux.
Bonjour,
Je ne met pas en doute vôtre parole mais je dois avouer que je doute fortement de cette rumeur. Je m'explique. La cohabitation dans Star Alliance, entre Thai Airways et Singapore Airlines n'était pas déjà au beau fixe, mais imaginons que le 3ème grand ennemi asiatique rentre dans la même cage.. Ces 3 compagnies sont un peu les soeurs ennemies asiatiques, celle qui depuis 20 ans se livre concurrence et bataille acharnée pour le contrôle du sud-est asiatique. Pour Cathay et Singapore Airlines, il y'a aussi la bataille Europe-Australie qui fait rage. De même que cette bataille transcende largement le cadre du transport aérien mais concerne aussi également le terrain politique ou Hong-Kong et Singapour se sont engagée dans une "lutte à mort" pour le contrôle de la région et première place économique et financière. C'est un peu ce que Mitterrand avait dit à propos de la guerre économique entre USA et Europe: "c'est une guerre sans mort apparemment mais une guerre à mort quand même". Elle s'applique entre ces deux villes. Pourtant elles auraient tout à y gagné à coopérer mais ça, c'est un autre débat.
Pour revenir à Cathay et SQ, la seule destination où une alliance ferait sens, ce serait sur l'Amérique du Nord ou SQ est à la traine par rapport à SQ, du fait principalement de son éloignement géographique par rapport à Hong Kong. Là une alliance aurait sens. Sinon, une alliance à 3 entre TG, SQ et CX ne ferait pas sens, à la rigueur si Thai Airways sortait de l'alliance, oui mais on est pas encore là.
Je ne met pas en doute vôtre parole mais je dois avouer que je doute fortement de cette rumeur. Je m'explique. La cohabitation dans Star Alliance, entre Thai Airways et Singapore Airlines n'était pas déjà au beau fixe, mais imaginons que le 3ème grand ennemi asiatique rentre dans la même cage.. Ces 3 compagnies sont un peu les soeurs ennemies asiatiques, celle qui depuis 20 ans se livre concurrence et bataille acharnée pour le contrôle du sud-est asiatique. Pour Cathay et Singapore Airlines, il y'a aussi la bataille Europe-Australie qui fait rage. De même que cette bataille transcende largement le cadre du transport aérien mais concerne aussi également le terrain politique ou Hong-Kong et Singapour se sont engagée dans une "lutte à mort" pour le contrôle de la région et première place économique et financière. C'est un peu ce que Mitterrand avait dit à propos de la guerre économique entre USA et Europe: "c'est une guerre sans mort apparemment mais une guerre à mort quand même". Elle s'applique entre ces deux villes. Pourtant elles auraient tout à y gagné à coopérer mais ça, c'est un autre débat.
Pour revenir à Cathay et SQ, la seule destination où une alliance ferait sens, ce serait sur l'Amérique du Nord ou SQ est à la traine par rapport à SQ, du fait principalement de son éloignement géographique par rapport à Hong Kong. Là une alliance aurait sens. Sinon, une alliance à 3 entre TG, SQ et CX ne ferait pas sens, à la rigueur si Thai Airways sortait de l'alliance, oui mais on est pas encore là.
La guerre salit tous ceux qui la font: au fil des mois et des années, j'ai vu les deux bords verser dans le mal, j'ai vu le mal affronté le mal, et le bien, ce qu'il y'a de bon dans l'humain, devenir la victime des deux.
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Hi there,
I’d like to fly to Malta from Lyon. I’ve read a lot of negative reviews about KM MALTA, especially regarding baggage fees at the airport. Of course, I don’t want to book through third parties (like SkyScanner, Opodo…). AIR FRANCE offers tickets to MALTA in partnership, if I understood correctly. On AIR FRANCE, the tickets include everything (checked baggage, cabin bag, small personal item, seat), whereas with KM MALTA, everything is extra and the final price is almost double! In this case, is AIR FRANCE considered the same as sites like Opodo or others? Given the price difference, I’m hesitant… Have any of you booked with AIR FRANCE for this destination? How did it go? Thanks, HERVE
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Hi everyone,
Next January, I’m heading to India.
My outbound flight is with Emirates from Paris to Dubai, then another Emirates flight from Dubai to Calcutta.
Could anyone tell me how the connection works? I’ve heard there’s a dedicated Emirates zone, but how does it actually work in practice—I’ve got a 2-hour layover.
Thanks so much!
Take care.
Hi everyone, I’ve unfortunately only just noticed that I booked two flight tickets, but I made a mistake on the second first name. Basically, my computer auto-filled and typed my first name twice, so both tickets are in my first name. Only the last names—mine and my friend’s—are correct.
TAP Portugal refuses to make the change because they consider it a change of passenger, even though it’s clearly a typo (plus, my last name isn’t common). I’m leaving in 5 days, and buying a new ticket would cost 3 times the original price. Has anyone been in this situation before? I’d like to try negotiating at the airport, but it’s a gamble… Thanks in advance for any advice!
TAP Portugal refuses to make the change because they consider it a change of passenger, even though it’s clearly a typo (plus, my last name isn’t common). I’m leaving in 5 days, and buying a new ticket would cost 3 times the original price. Has anyone been in this situation before? I’d like to try negotiating at the airport, but it’s a gamble… Thanks in advance for any advice!
Great news for those heading to Bahia / Salvador toward the end of the year.
Air France plans to increase flights from 3 to 5 during the December 2026 / February 2027 period.
Original source: Salvador terá mais voos diretos para Paris durante o verão; veja o que muda | Jornal Correio 1
Tropical greetings from Salvador,
@IvanBahiaGuide
(local specialist, active on the French-speaking Brazil Forums for over 16 years now)
Hello,
Since it came into force, Regulation 261/2004 of the European Parliament and Council, which defines air passenger rights, has faced fierce resistance from airlines, backed by IATA (the association representing almost all passenger airlines).
Beyond the airlines' often abusive—and even frequently bad-faith—resistance to passenger rights, IATA has been lobbying EU institutions for years, with the Council paying close attention for a long time.
As a result, the Council and the Commission have been proposing revisions to Regulation 261/2004 for years that are particularly unfavorable to passengers. The latest attempt nearly eliminated the right to compensation for delays of 3 hours or more upon arrival at the final destination.
However, since this is a regulation of both the European Parliament AND the Council, the two bodies had to agree.
But the European Parliament has always stood firm, consistently responding that passenger rights must be preserved.
After 11 years of struggle, it seems likely that we’re finally nearing the end of the match between the European Commission, the Council (the 27 heads of state or government), and the European Parliament.
Indeed, the Commission and the European Parliament have agreed on a text that will be debated again on Monday, July 6, 2026, with a vote scheduled for July 7, 2026. It’s very likely that this text, which would come into force in a year, will be adopted.
The main changes would be as follows: - Families with children will no longer be forced to pay to sit together on planes; - A flight will be considered canceled (not just delayed) if it departs more than one hour late; - Right to compensation for arrival at the final destination if the delay exceeds 3 hours (no longer "3 hours OR more"). The arrival time will be when the plane, having reached its parking spot, engages its parking brakes (no longer when the aircraft door opens); - Airlines can no longer refuse boarding or charge extra on the return flight for a passenger who didn’t take the outbound flight; - If a flight is canceled, the airline must, at the same time as informing passengers of the event, offer the choice between a refund and re-routing, and inform them of their rights to assistance and, if applicable, compensation; - The airline must, without undue delay, inform passengers of the reason; - In the case of a connecting flight, if the connection is missed and the delay at the final destination entitles the passenger to compensation, the responsible airline will be liable. This is very different from the current situation, where, under the KLM ruling, any airline operating a segment of the flight is liable for compensation. This promises more disputes that the Court of Justice of the European Union will have to resolve if two separate airlines operating segments of a connecting flight are both responsible for the delay. See this case for an example: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2026/04/18/swiss-international-air-lines-la-mauvaise-foi/ Moreover, this case demonstrates in advance another potential dispute: It could be argued that it wasn’t a missed connection since the flight was canceled before the first leg even departed. - Within 96 hours of a flight that could entitle passengers to compensation, the airline must contact them to inform them of their rights and explain the next steps. - Passengers must claim their right to compensation within 9 months. This is very different from the current situation, as Regulation 261/2004 sets no time limit. Currently, national law applies—in France, the limit is 5 years. The airline must respond within 30 days. If the airline refuses compensation on the grounds of "extraordinary circumstances," it must specify which type of case it refers to from the list in the annex of the new regulation. If the case isn’t on the list, the airline must explain what the event was, why it qualifies as extraordinary circumstances with "clear, substantial, and concise" explanations, and why it’s directly linked to the reason given. It must also declare what "reasonable measures" were taken to mitigate the issue. This is, of course, a huge change in the regulation, with the clear goal of preventing airlines from declaring just anything as "extraordinary circumstances" to avoid compensation. - If, within 3 hours of a last-minute canceled or delayed flight, the airline hasn’t offered re-routing under comparable transport conditions and as soon as possible—whether on one of its own flights or another airline’s—the passenger will have the right to arrange their own re-routing and demand a refund for the new ticket, up to 400% of the original ticket price. This is a significant improvement that would have likely prevented the case described here: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2024/01/12/reacheminement-catastrophique-droit-indemnisation-meme-circonstances-extraordinaires-2/ - If a flight is canceled due to "extraordinary circumstances," the airline will only be required to offer up to 3 nights in a hotel. This is a major change, as there’s currently no limit. Expect disputes if the extraordinary circumstances end while the passenger hasn’t been re-routed. - The price of a flight, as first displayed, must obligatorily include a cabin bag. This doesn’t prevent the airline from offering a price reduction if the passenger waives the cabin bag. This will put an end to abnormal practices, such as (just one example) Condor charging extra for a cabin bag on long-haul flights like Frankfurt (Germany)–Puerto Plata (Dominican Republic)–Santo Domingo (Dominican Republic)–Frankfurt. - Free correction of a passenger’s name if requested 48 hours before departure. Note: This can’t be used to replace one passenger with another—just to correct a typo, e.g., Dupont instead of Dpont. - Airlines’ websites and apps must include information on how to file a claim.
It’s clear that, despite a few details, these changes are very positive for upholding passenger rights. It remains to be seen whether this text will be definitively adopted on July 7, 2026, as is very likely, and, more importantly, whether IATA will encourage airlines to loyally respect these new rules or persist in their old habits.
Best regards,
Since it came into force, Regulation 261/2004 of the European Parliament and Council, which defines air passenger rights, has faced fierce resistance from airlines, backed by IATA (the association representing almost all passenger airlines).
Beyond the airlines' often abusive—and even frequently bad-faith—resistance to passenger rights, IATA has been lobbying EU institutions for years, with the Council paying close attention for a long time.
As a result, the Council and the Commission have been proposing revisions to Regulation 261/2004 for years that are particularly unfavorable to passengers. The latest attempt nearly eliminated the right to compensation for delays of 3 hours or more upon arrival at the final destination.
However, since this is a regulation of both the European Parliament AND the Council, the two bodies had to agree.
But the European Parliament has always stood firm, consistently responding that passenger rights must be preserved.
After 11 years of struggle, it seems likely that we’re finally nearing the end of the match between the European Commission, the Council (the 27 heads of state or government), and the European Parliament.
Indeed, the Commission and the European Parliament have agreed on a text that will be debated again on Monday, July 6, 2026, with a vote scheduled for July 7, 2026. It’s very likely that this text, which would come into force in a year, will be adopted.
The main changes would be as follows: - Families with children will no longer be forced to pay to sit together on planes; - A flight will be considered canceled (not just delayed) if it departs more than one hour late; - Right to compensation for arrival at the final destination if the delay exceeds 3 hours (no longer "3 hours OR more"). The arrival time will be when the plane, having reached its parking spot, engages its parking brakes (no longer when the aircraft door opens); - Airlines can no longer refuse boarding or charge extra on the return flight for a passenger who didn’t take the outbound flight; - If a flight is canceled, the airline must, at the same time as informing passengers of the event, offer the choice between a refund and re-routing, and inform them of their rights to assistance and, if applicable, compensation; - The airline must, without undue delay, inform passengers of the reason; - In the case of a connecting flight, if the connection is missed and the delay at the final destination entitles the passenger to compensation, the responsible airline will be liable. This is very different from the current situation, where, under the KLM ruling, any airline operating a segment of the flight is liable for compensation. This promises more disputes that the Court of Justice of the European Union will have to resolve if two separate airlines operating segments of a connecting flight are both responsible for the delay. See this case for an example: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2026/04/18/swiss-international-air-lines-la-mauvaise-foi/ Moreover, this case demonstrates in advance another potential dispute: It could be argued that it wasn’t a missed connection since the flight was canceled before the first leg even departed. - Within 96 hours of a flight that could entitle passengers to compensation, the airline must contact them to inform them of their rights and explain the next steps. - Passengers must claim their right to compensation within 9 months. This is very different from the current situation, as Regulation 261/2004 sets no time limit. Currently, national law applies—in France, the limit is 5 years. The airline must respond within 30 days. If the airline refuses compensation on the grounds of "extraordinary circumstances," it must specify which type of case it refers to from the list in the annex of the new regulation. If the case isn’t on the list, the airline must explain what the event was, why it qualifies as extraordinary circumstances with "clear, substantial, and concise" explanations, and why it’s directly linked to the reason given. It must also declare what "reasonable measures" were taken to mitigate the issue. This is, of course, a huge change in the regulation, with the clear goal of preventing airlines from declaring just anything as "extraordinary circumstances" to avoid compensation. - If, within 3 hours of a last-minute canceled or delayed flight, the airline hasn’t offered re-routing under comparable transport conditions and as soon as possible—whether on one of its own flights or another airline’s—the passenger will have the right to arrange their own re-routing and demand a refund for the new ticket, up to 400% of the original ticket price. This is a significant improvement that would have likely prevented the case described here: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2024/01/12/reacheminement-catastrophique-droit-indemnisation-meme-circonstances-extraordinaires-2/ - If a flight is canceled due to "extraordinary circumstances," the airline will only be required to offer up to 3 nights in a hotel. This is a major change, as there’s currently no limit. Expect disputes if the extraordinary circumstances end while the passenger hasn’t been re-routed. - The price of a flight, as first displayed, must obligatorily include a cabin bag. This doesn’t prevent the airline from offering a price reduction if the passenger waives the cabin bag. This will put an end to abnormal practices, such as (just one example) Condor charging extra for a cabin bag on long-haul flights like Frankfurt (Germany)–Puerto Plata (Dominican Republic)–Santo Domingo (Dominican Republic)–Frankfurt. - Free correction of a passenger’s name if requested 48 hours before departure. Note: This can’t be used to replace one passenger with another—just to correct a typo, e.g., Dupont instead of Dpont. - Airlines’ websites and apps must include information on how to file a claim.
It’s clear that, despite a few details, these changes are very positive for upholding passenger rights. It remains to be seen whether this text will be definitively adopted on July 7, 2026, as is very likely, and, more importantly, whether IATA will encourage airlines to loyally respect these new rules or persist in their old habits.
Best regards,
Hi,
Air Cairo offers good prices on domestic flights and schedules that work for us, but is this airline reliable?
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Georgia this summer and I’ve been comparing some airlines. I’m not particularly set on flying with Pegasus (though it’s convenient with direct flights from Lyon to Tbilisi), but right off the bat, Pegasus states this:
As of January 1, 2026, all foreign nationals traveling to Georgia for tourism purposes will be required to present valid travel health insurance. Guests who fail to provide the relevant health insurance will not be accepted on our flights to Georgia. Sincerely, Pegasus Airlines
In other words, if you don’t show proof of travel health insurance, you’ll be denied boarding. Personally, my credit card insurance has always been enough for me, and I’d rather not take out extra coverage... Have any of you run into this issue before? If not, what do you think? Why is Pegasus asking for this proof? Other airlines don’t mention it at all.
I’m planning a trip to Georgia this summer and I’ve been comparing some airlines. I’m not particularly set on flying with Pegasus (though it’s convenient with direct flights from Lyon to Tbilisi), but right off the bat, Pegasus states this:
As of January 1, 2026, all foreign nationals traveling to Georgia for tourism purposes will be required to present valid travel health insurance. Guests who fail to provide the relevant health insurance will not be accepted on our flights to Georgia. Sincerely, Pegasus Airlines
In other words, if you don’t show proof of travel health insurance, you’ll be denied boarding. Personally, my credit card insurance has always been enough for me, and I’d rather not take out extra coverage... Have any of you run into this issue before? If not, what do you think? Why is Pegasus asking for this proof? Other airlines don’t mention it at all.
Hi,
I bought my flight ticket with my first (usual) first name, which appears first on my passport. However, I have two first names on my passport, and of course, it’s mentioned in the machine-readable zone at the bottom.
I booked with Turkish Airlines (through an online agency) for a trip to South Korea.
I wanted to know if it would be a problem that I only used my first first name on the ticket, while my passport has two. I had requested through the agency to add the second first name, but the airline refused because it doesn’t meet their general conditions. (They must have seen that the last name and first name were the same, and only the second first name was added.)
So, my ticket has my last name and first first name correctly spelled, and when I check in online, I’ll enter the passport details correctly.
I’ll have a layover in Istanbul on the flight.
Thanks in advance for your replies. Have a great day.
I bought my flight ticket with my first (usual) first name, which appears first on my passport. However, I have two first names on my passport, and of course, it’s mentioned in the machine-readable zone at the bottom.
I booked with Turkish Airlines (through an online agency) for a trip to South Korea.
I wanted to know if it would be a problem that I only used my first first name on the ticket, while my passport has two. I had requested through the agency to add the second first name, but the airline refused because it doesn’t meet their general conditions. (They must have seen that the last name and first name were the same, and only the second first name was added.)
So, my ticket has my last name and first first name correctly spelled, and when I check in online, I’ll enter the passport details correctly.
I’ll have a layover in Istanbul on the flight.
Thanks in advance for your replies. Have a great day.
Hi there,
I traveled in June 2025 with Nouvelair Destinations to Hammamet.
I had one checked bag and one carry-on sized 40x24x30, which I usually take on low-cost flights, and I didn’t have any issues. But I just read on a website that Nouvel Air only accepts carry-ons of 40x20x15. I’m flying back to Djerba in June—what do you think? Especially since that size is impossible to find??????? Thanks
Hi, it's my first time taking a plane and I chose EasyJet for a Geneva -> Barcelona flight.
I booked my ticket.
I received my booking reference by email, but I don’t see the actual ticket (barcode or QR code?).
Then I checked in to get the boarding pass with the flight details, QR code, etc. But does this boarding pass act as the ticket?
Because I’ve seen several times online that the flight ticket and the boarding pass aren’t the same thing.
Thanks in advance!
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
We're leaving for Albania on June 18th. When I validated the flight tickets with Wizz Air on Booking, I only put my son's first name but forgot to include his other three first names on the ticket. On the passport: SURNAME: Dupont, FIRST NAMES: toto titi tutu tata On the flight ticket: SURNAME: Dupont, FIRST NAME: toto I can't seem to reach anyone at Wizz Air to get an answer. Booking and Wizz Air's chat say I need to modify it, but ChatGPT says it should be fine. I wanted to know if he can fly like this or if I need to change his ticket? (It costs 140 €, I know I shouldn't have made a mistake🙁)
Thanks for your feedback.
We're leaving for Albania on June 18th. When I validated the flight tickets with Wizz Air on Booking, I only put my son's first name but forgot to include his other three first names on the ticket. On the passport: SURNAME: Dupont, FIRST NAMES: toto titi tutu tata On the flight ticket: SURNAME: Dupont, FIRST NAME: toto I can't seem to reach anyone at Wizz Air to get an answer. Booking and Wizz Air's chat say I need to modify it, but ChatGPT says it should be fine. I wanted to know if he can fly like this or if I need to change his ticket? (It costs 140 €, I know I shouldn't have made a mistake🙁)
Thanks for your feedback.
Hi,
A pretty serious issue has come up in the past few weeks for traveling to Tanzania.
What’s the deal with airlines in Tanzania? https://www.capital.fr/economie-politique/ce-pays-est-tres-touristique-mais-ses-compagnies-aeriennes-sont-placees-sur-liste-noire-par-l-europe-1515325 https://www.charentelibre.fr/tourisme/la-tanzanie-sur-liste-noire-de-l-europe-des-vols-interieurs-a-haut-risque-pour-100-000-touristes-francais-25002566.php
Basically, all airlines have been blacklisted because they don’t meet European safety standards. They’re banned from flying in Europe but continue operating in Tanzania. The main issue is that travel agencies’ civil liability no longer applies to blacklisted airlines. So we can’t allow clients to fly with these carriers. Of course, there’s huge pressure from European agencies, which are forced to disrupt their plans or even cancel trips because of this. Personally, I’ve got a trip planned for February 2026 to the southern parks in Tanzania, so I’ll be keeping an eye on how this develops. Do any of you have updates? Thanks!
Loïc
A pretty serious issue has come up in the past few weeks for traveling to Tanzania.
What’s the deal with airlines in Tanzania? https://www.capital.fr/economie-politique/ce-pays-est-tres-touristique-mais-ses-compagnies-aeriennes-sont-placees-sur-liste-noire-par-l-europe-1515325 https://www.charentelibre.fr/tourisme/la-tanzanie-sur-liste-noire-de-l-europe-des-vols-interieurs-a-haut-risque-pour-100-000-touristes-francais-25002566.php
Basically, all airlines have been blacklisted because they don’t meet European safety standards. They’re banned from flying in Europe but continue operating in Tanzania. The main issue is that travel agencies’ civil liability no longer applies to blacklisted airlines. So we can’t allow clients to fly with these carriers. Of course, there’s huge pressure from European agencies, which are forced to disrupt their plans or even cancel trips because of this. Personally, I’ve got a trip planned for February 2026 to the southern parks in Tanzania, so I’ll be keeping an eye on how this develops. Do any of you have updates? Thanks!
Loïc
Hi,
Right now, with the war raging in Iran and affecting all the neighboring countries of the Persian Gulf, many airports are completely closed to all traffic.
Several airlines like Qatar Airways, Emirates, and others have almost completely halted their operations.
Whether in the Middle East or Africa, many travelers are stranded—maybe for a long time... A heartfelt thought for them and the struggles this will cause.
Four months ago, I was in Kenya with a flight booked through Qatar Airways... I can’t even imagine how I’d react if I were stuck there now. ??
Wishing all these travelers courage, patience, and success in making it back home.
...
Doha Airport on October 21, 2025:

...
Right now, with the war raging in Iran and affecting all the neighboring countries of the Persian Gulf, many airports are completely closed to all traffic.
Several airlines like Qatar Airways, Emirates, and others have almost completely halted their operations.
Whether in the Middle East or Africa, many travelers are stranded—maybe for a long time... A heartfelt thought for them and the struggles this will cause.
Four months ago, I was in Kenya with a flight booked through Qatar Airways... I can’t even imagine how I’d react if I were stuck there now. ??
Wishing all these travelers courage, patience, and success in making it back home.
...
Doha Airport on October 21, 2025:

...
Hello, some (potentially) good news for Brazil lovers—GOL airline is launching a route to Europe from Rio, starting in September for Lisbon, then Paris at a later date that hasn’t been announced yet.
They’ll be using their new A330-900 neo.
No prices have been announced so far, but hopefully we’ll find direct flights from GIG at a more interesting fare than AF or Latam…
Hello,
I’m really surprised because in TUI’s new tour packages, the airlines they’re using are of low quality. Before, they used to prioritize major airlines, but now it’s small airlines from small countries—companies with terrible ratings and borderline safety concerns. I even just noticed this note for a Tanzania trip: "We inform you that the domestic flight segment in Tanzania included in your trip is operated by an airline listed on the European Union’s list of air carriers subject to an operating ban within the European Union. This ban only applies to European Union airspace, meaning this airline is not permitted to take off, land, or fly over European airspace. However, this airline is authorized to operate in Tanzania."
This means they’re using airlines on the blacklist!! It’s pretty worrying for safety. What do you all think?
I’m really surprised because in TUI’s new tour packages, the airlines they’re using are of low quality. Before, they used to prioritize major airlines, but now it’s small airlines from small countries—companies with terrible ratings and borderline safety concerns. I even just noticed this note for a Tanzania trip: "We inform you that the domestic flight segment in Tanzania included in your trip is operated by an airline listed on the European Union’s list of air carriers subject to an operating ban within the European Union. This ban only applies to European Union airspace, meaning this airline is not permitted to take off, land, or fly over European airspace. However, this airline is authorized to operate in Tanzania."
This means they’re using airlines on the blacklist!! It’s pretty worrying for safety. What do you all think?
Hello,
We’re planning a cruise to the UAE/QATAR/OMAN starting from DUBAI, with flights departing from Paris CDG. Which airlines would you recommend for round-trip flights, with or without a layover? We need assistance for check-in and boarding/disembarking (my husband is a mobility-impaired traveler who uses a cane and/or a walker). We’ve done a cruise return from Dubai to Paris CDG before in 2016, with a layover in Istanbul, but we booked the transfer and return flight with COSTA. For our current plan, it would be with Celestyal, which doesn’t offer round-trip flights from Paris to Dubai. Should we book very far in advance, or is a few months before departure enough (4/6 months)? We’re thinking of arriving the day before the ship departs, so we’d need to stay overnight in Dubai—either on the way there or for the return flight, depending on the flight schedules. Could you recommend a hotel not too far from the airport, and how to get to the port from the airport?
Thanks so much for your advice. Have a great Sunday! Mum49
We’re planning a cruise to the UAE/QATAR/OMAN starting from DUBAI, with flights departing from Paris CDG. Which airlines would you recommend for round-trip flights, with or without a layover? We need assistance for check-in and boarding/disembarking (my husband is a mobility-impaired traveler who uses a cane and/or a walker). We’ve done a cruise return from Dubai to Paris CDG before in 2016, with a layover in Istanbul, but we booked the transfer and return flight with COSTA. For our current plan, it would be with Celestyal, which doesn’t offer round-trip flights from Paris to Dubai. Should we book very far in advance, or is a few months before departure enough (4/6 months)? We’re thinking of arriving the day before the ship departs, so we’d need to stay overnight in Dubai—either on the way there or for the return flight, depending on the flight schedules. Could you recommend a hotel not too far from the airport, and how to get to the port from the airport?
Thanks so much for your advice. Have a great Sunday! Mum49
Hi,
It's all in the title—this means nothing's getting through, so no more oil.
In Europe, kerosene reserves are still good, but by the end of April, flights will have to be reduced.
European airports fear running out of kerosene if the Strait of Hormuz isn’t reopened within three weeks
Bluff or not? Stay tuned....
Bluff or not? Stay tuned....
Hi everyone,
I’m reaching out to ask for your help with a bit of a problem:
I booked a flight to Berlin from Orly for April 15th—it’s coming up fast. But I just made an annoying discovery: my passport expired two weeks ago.
From what I understand, in principle, I can still travel within the Schengen Zone with an expired passport as long as it’s been less than five years. However, EasyJet’s website explicitly requires a valid ID (and just to add to the fun, my national ID card has been expired for a while now).
So, I’d love to know: how strict are EasyJet’s ID checks? Do they enforce validity rules strictly and refuse boarding if the ID isn’t valid? Or is it more of a luck-of-the-draw situation?
Basically, should I just write off this trip now, or should I still try my luck—maybe with a little tearful plea? Has anyone here had a similar experience? I can’t be the only one, right!
I’m reaching out to ask for your help with a bit of a problem:
I booked a flight to Berlin from Orly for April 15th—it’s coming up fast. But I just made an annoying discovery: my passport expired two weeks ago.
From what I understand, in principle, I can still travel within the Schengen Zone with an expired passport as long as it’s been less than five years. However, EasyJet’s website explicitly requires a valid ID (and just to add to the fun, my national ID card has been expired for a while now).
So, I’d love to know: how strict are EasyJet’s ID checks? Do they enforce validity rules strictly and refuse boarding if the ID isn’t valid? Or is it more of a luck-of-the-draw situation?
Basically, should I just write off this trip now, or should I still try my luck—maybe with a little tearful plea? Has anyone here had a similar experience? I can’t be the only one, right!
Hi there!
Has anyone taken the direct flight from CDG to Las Vegas with Air France?
Looking forward to your feedback!
Hey everyone,
I booked a flight with RyanAir for next month, with the priority+ option and two cabin bags. So I can take a 10 kg bag with dimensions 55x40x20 in the cabin (plus another smaller one). The problem is that the smallest suitcase I have (which is supposed to be designed specifically for cabin size standards, according to the manual) has the following dimensions: 55x37x21, so it's just 1 cm over (wheels included) on one of the measurements.
I wasn’t too worried at first, but I’ve read dozens of stories about people’s misadventures and the hassles they’ve had with RyanAir.
Since I don’t want my suitcase to end up in the hold (that would waste time picking it up when I’m already arriving late and need to get to the city center), nor do I want to pay an extra fee (apparently 50 €) for the outbound and return flights for just 1 centimeter—especially since I paid for the "priority+" option and I’m not exactly rolling in money—I’d love some advice.
Have any of you been in the same situation? I’ve read that with this airline, they check bags in templates (testing them in different positions) and are completely uncompromising. I tried contacting customer service, who, as luck would have it, "don’t handle this kind of request," and a rep I spoke to wasn’t much help.
I know it’s a low-cost airline, and I don’t expect luxury or even kindness, but come on—just 1 cm on a short flight with the + option... I’m a bit overwhelmed by everything I’ve read...
Just to clarify, since I’m going for 8 days, I can’t just take one bag for my stuff. I’ve done that for shorter trips before, and it was a hassle—I even had to buy an extra bag for the return trip... Luckily, the inspector was nice about it!
Thanks so much! I’m a newbie when it comes to air travel :) Hope I posted this in the right section!
I booked a flight with RyanAir for next month, with the priority+ option and two cabin bags. So I can take a 10 kg bag with dimensions 55x40x20 in the cabin (plus another smaller one). The problem is that the smallest suitcase I have (which is supposed to be designed specifically for cabin size standards, according to the manual) has the following dimensions: 55x37x21, so it's just 1 cm over (wheels included) on one of the measurements.
I wasn’t too worried at first, but I’ve read dozens of stories about people’s misadventures and the hassles they’ve had with RyanAir.
Since I don’t want my suitcase to end up in the hold (that would waste time picking it up when I’m already arriving late and need to get to the city center), nor do I want to pay an extra fee (apparently 50 €) for the outbound and return flights for just 1 centimeter—especially since I paid for the "priority+" option and I’m not exactly rolling in money—I’d love some advice.
Have any of you been in the same situation? I’ve read that with this airline, they check bags in templates (testing them in different positions) and are completely uncompromising. I tried contacting customer service, who, as luck would have it, "don’t handle this kind of request," and a rep I spoke to wasn’t much help.
I know it’s a low-cost airline, and I don’t expect luxury or even kindness, but come on—just 1 cm on a short flight with the + option... I’m a bit overwhelmed by everything I’ve read...
Just to clarify, since I’m going for 8 days, I can’t just take one bag for my stuff. I’ve done that for shorter trips before, and it was a hassle—I even had to buy an extra bag for the return trip... Luckily, the inspector was nice about it!
Thanks so much! I’m a newbie when it comes to air travel :) Hope I posted this in the right section!
Hi there,
When I run searches on Skyscanner, I see that only Lufthansa has flights to Seoul with just one stop. Air France doesn’t show up, even though I thought the French airline served Seoul? I can’t even log into the Air France website—it keeps glitching.
When I run searches on Skyscanner, I see that only Lufthansa has flights to Seoul with just one stop. Air France doesn’t show up, even though I thought the French airline served Seoul? I can’t even log into the Air France website—it keeps glitching.
Hi there,
I’d like to return to Uzbekistan next April for 10 days with my husband to visit our son who lives there. We went last July and I bought the flight tickets (direct flight from Paris on Uzbekistan Airways) about 2 months in advance at very reasonable prices. I’ve been checking for late April for a few weeks now, and the tickets are much more expensive and keep rising. I can’t figure out if the prices are going up because it’s still a bit too early to buy and they’ll likely drop if the planes aren’t full, or if it’s because the period is actually in high demand. For reference, last year I bought my son’s ticket on May 30th for a departure on June 3rd—just 3 days later—at a very low price that didn’t budge at all.
Just in case, does anyone know the pricing trends for this airline and can advise me? Should I wait or not?
Thanks, and feel free to ask if you need any tips about the country!
My wife bought a flight ticket (Lucky Air) under her Thai maiden name and was issued a Chinese visa on her new Thai passport but with her French married name (due to administrative requirements). She was denied boarding by the airline in Bangkok for the flight to Kunming—resulting in the loss of our round-trip flight tickets, including mine since we were traveling together—despite presenting both passports at the airline counter at the same time.
Hi there.
I’m planning a trip to Chile, and the fares from the Colombian airline Avianca are really appealing.
Way cheaper than Air France, for example.
That said, the reviews I’ve seen online aren’t great.
What do you think of this airline?
Have any of you taken long-haul flights with Avianca?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Eric
Hi there,
This might be a silly question, but I’m traveling to Japan from CDG and returning via Osaka with EVA Air, and I have a pretty bulky aluminum knee brace. It’s this model: https://enovis-medtech.eu/fr_FR/OA-FullForce-74358.html
Has anyone had any experience with airport security checks or flying with one of these?
Thanks in advance! Best regards,
This might be a silly question, but I’m traveling to Japan from CDG and returning via Osaka with EVA Air, and I have a pretty bulky aluminum knee brace. It’s this model: https://enovis-medtech.eu/fr_FR/OA-FullForce-74358.html
Has anyone had any experience with airport security checks or flying with one of these?
Thanks in advance! Best regards,
Hi there,
I can't seem to find flights between the Cape Verde islands on the airline's website. No matter the date or route, I always get the same response: "no flights on this date." See the photo. Would anyone have an explanation? Surely not all flights are fully booked in July?
Best, Thierry
I can't seem to find flights between the Cape Verde islands on the airline's website. No matter the date or route, I always get the same response: "no flights on this date." See the photo. Would anyone have an explanation? Surely not all flights are fully booked in July?
Best, Thierry
Hi there,
I have a question...
Has anyone managed to get a refund from Oman Air?
After a delayed flight, we missed our connecting flight to get home!! At midnight, the flight attendant booked us on a flight to Nice via Munich, even though we were in Munich and wanted to get back to Nice... Too tired from the trip, we didn’t notice the mistake!! The next day, of course, the booking wasn’t valid!! We had to pay again for the flight back to Nice... I’m really struggling!! I think they’re giving me the runaround!! I’ve sent several emails, tried Messenger and WhatsApp, but the only responses I get are: "We need to investigate!! We’ll get back to you in 15 days!!" It’s been over a month!!
I just sent a registered letter (LRAR) to their office at Paris Charles de Gaulle, which is still open!!
Do you have any other suggestions for me?
Thanks in advance for your help! Virginie
After a delayed flight, we missed our connecting flight to get home!! At midnight, the flight attendant booked us on a flight to Nice via Munich, even though we were in Munich and wanted to get back to Nice... Too tired from the trip, we didn’t notice the mistake!! The next day, of course, the booking wasn’t valid!! We had to pay again for the flight back to Nice... I’m really struggling!! I think they’re giving me the runaround!! I’ve sent several emails, tried Messenger and WhatsApp, but the only responses I get are: "We need to investigate!! We’ll get back to you in 15 days!!" It’s been over a month!!
I just sent a registered letter (LRAR) to their office at Paris Charles de Gaulle, which is still open!!
Do you have any other suggestions for me?
Thanks in advance for your help! Virginie
Hi!
Sri Lanka has announced it could run out of fuel in the coming weeks if the Strait of Hormuz remains blocked. The government has implemented a mandatory four-day workweek to save oil, and there are long lines at gas stations due to fears of an early shortage.
In Vietnam, the government has warned all airlines that flights will need to be reduced due to a lack of kerosene. The country imports two-thirds of its jet fuel from China and Thailand, but both countries have now banned exports out of fear of domestic shortages.
The state is asking airlines to plan ahead and park aircraft to drastically reduce operations, starting with domestic flights and then international ones. International carriers will also need to cut back on their rotations.
This will begin in the coming days. 🙁
Hi there,
I’ve got a long layover (about 10 hours) in Seoul on an upcoming trip.
I arrive from Phnom Penh at 7:20 AM and depart for Montreal at 6:00 PM.
First question: Will my checked baggage be transferred automatically? I have a single ticket from KTI to YUL (Air Canada ticket—KTI-ICN operated by Asiana (codeshare) and ICN-YUL by Air Canada).
Second question: I saw it’s possible to join free guided tours (Airport Transit Tour). What do you think of this kind of service? And is my "actual" layover time (accounting for security checks, check-in, etc.) enough to do one of these tours?
Thanks in advance to everyone who chimes in on this!
First question: Will my checked baggage be transferred automatically? I have a single ticket from KTI to YUL (Air Canada ticket—KTI-ICN operated by Asiana (codeshare) and ICN-YUL by Air Canada).
Second question: I saw it’s possible to join free guided tours (Airport Transit Tour). What do you think of this kind of service? And is my "actual" layover time (accounting for security checks, check-in, etc.) enough to do one of these tours?
Thanks in advance to everyone who chimes in on this!
Hi everyone,
I'm heading to Namibia next May. I'm planning to take a first flight from Paris to Johannesburg with Air France, departing at 11:20 PM and arriving at 11:05 AM in Johannesburg. Then a second flight from Johannesburg to Windhoek at 3:25 PM with South African Airways.
Four hours between the two flights seems enough to catch my connection, but a friend told me I should maybe take the 5:30 PM flight instead because I need to go through immigration, collect my luggage, and check in again. Apparently, I have to do this because I bought the two tickets separately (it's actually much cheaper).
What do you think?
Also, in terms of South African airlines, which one do you think is the most reliable between South African Airways and Airlink?
Thanks for your advice!!