Est ce que qqn connait un site pour savoir quels vols partiront de ce terminal ? ( sur le site d'AF ce n'est visiblement pas mis à jour )
Vols avec Air France à l'aéroport Charles-de-Gaulle terminal T2G?
by Tyrolien
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
J'ai lu sur un site web qu'ADP ouvrait demain son Terminal 2G.
Apparement, ce nouveau terminal sera amménagé pour les vols courts et moyens courriers. J'ai 3 vols sur la France avec AF d'ici la fin de l'année ( un MXP-CDG, VIE-CDG et AMS-CDG ), et je me demandai si j'avais une chance de voir à quoi ce nouveau terminal ressemblera.
Est ce que qqn connait un site pour savoir quels vols partiront de ce terminal ? ( sur le site d'AF ce n'est visiblement pas mis à jour )
Est ce que qqn connait un site pour savoir quels vols partiront de ce terminal ? ( sur le site d'AF ce n'est visiblement pas mis à jour )
Tyrolien
It's a beautifull day - don't let it get away -
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Ok merci ... malgré toute l'amitié possible pour nos amis de Vigo, Limoges et Göterborg, çà fait quand même pas lourd ...
Il s'agit que des vols de Regional ou Brit Air c'est çà ??? ( au passage, j'ai volé 2 fois avec Regional sur Florence et sur Verone, et j'ai trouvé çà mieux qu'Air France sur son réseau moyen courrier ... PNC sympa, siège confortable, petit repas pas mal ... )
Il s'agit que des vols de Regional ou Brit Air c'est çà ??? ( au passage, j'ai volé 2 fois avec Regional sur Florence et sur Verone, et j'ai trouvé çà mieux qu'Air France sur son réseau moyen courrier ... PNC sympa, siège confortable, petit repas pas mal ... )
Tyrolien
It's a beautifull day - don't let it get away -
Ce terminal est en effet dédié aux vols effectués par les compagnies régionales de AF (Brit Air, Regional, City Jet et Airliner).
Une navette de bus est organisée entre ce terminal et les autres terminaux.
http://www.cdgfacile.com/pages/terminal_2g_cdgpag.html
Une navette de bus est organisée entre ce terminal et les autres terminaux.
http://www.cdgfacile.com/pages/terminal_2g_cdgpag.html
Pour info, et après avoir consulté la littérature de presse parue aujourd'hui sur la question:
http://www.aeroportsdeparis.fr/Adp/Resources/683fda7a-bb47-40ce-9bab-ca83c2d9f12f-cpterminalt2gfr.pdf
et
http://www.aeroportsdeparis.fr/ExpFiles/DP-Terminal-T2G-FR.pdf
il semble à peu près évident qu'il n'y a pas de salon dans ce terminal 😮. Un message sur FlyerTalk fait état de l'ouverture possible d'un Patio en janvier 2009, mais cela reste à voir...
http://www.aeroportsdeparis.fr/Adp/Resources/683fda7a-bb47-40ce-9bab-ca83c2d9f12f-cpterminalt2gfr.pdf
et
http://www.aeroportsdeparis.fr/ExpFiles/DP-Terminal-T2G-FR.pdf
il semble à peu près évident qu'il n'y a pas de salon dans ce terminal 😮. Un message sur FlyerTalk fait état de l'ouverture possible d'un Patio en janvier 2009, mais cela reste à voir...
Je veux pas faire le rabas joie, mais si j'ai bien compris, un pax qui voudrait faire par exemple Breme - CDG - New York, arrivera au T2, devra récupérer sa valise, allez prendre un bus dehors et ensuite s'enregirstrer au 2F pour repasser la sécurité puis l'immigration ...
Encore un exploit du génie français ? Je pense que CDG se bat vraiment avec LHR pour être l'aéroport le moins pratique au monde. Dans ces conditions, il est évident que le risque de correspondance manquée ou de bagage perdu ne peut qu'être supérieur à ce que font d'autres hubs ...
Mais bon Madâme Lagarde a trouvé çà "magique", un exemple du "feu d'artifice d'investissements" et une preuve de la volonté de faire de "Roissy une référence" ... Alors soit MadAme Lagarde ne prend que le train, ou elle prend l'avion qu'au Bourget, ou elle a forcé sur le champagne pendant le cocktail d'inauguration, ou elle est tout simplement id..... ( Au vue du reste de son oeuvre, n'éliminons aucune piste ... )
Encore un exploit du génie français ? Je pense que CDG se bat vraiment avec LHR pour être l'aéroport le moins pratique au monde. Dans ces conditions, il est évident que le risque de correspondance manquée ou de bagage perdu ne peut qu'être supérieur à ce que font d'autres hubs ...
Mais bon Madâme Lagarde a trouvé çà "magique", un exemple du "feu d'artifice d'investissements" et une preuve de la volonté de faire de "Roissy une référence" ... Alors soit MadAme Lagarde ne prend que le train, ou elle prend l'avion qu'au Bourget, ou elle a forcé sur le champagne pendant le cocktail d'inauguration, ou elle est tout simplement id..... ( Au vue du reste de son oeuvre, n'éliminons aucune piste ... )
Tyrolien
It's a beautifull day - don't let it get away -
Mais bon Madâme Lagarde a trouvé çà "magique", un exemple du "feu d'artifice d'investissements" et une preuve de la volonté de faire de "Roissy une référence" ... Alors soit MadAme Lagarde ne prend que le train, ou elle prend l'avion qu'au Bourget, ou elle a forcé sur le champagne pendant le cocktail d'inauguration, ou elle est tout simplement id..... ( Au vue du reste de son oeuvre, n'éliminons aucune piste ... )
ou elle fait tout simplement son boulot de ministre (ie en l'occurrence de super-vrp): elle ne peut décemment pas critiquer en public les conditions d'accueil dans le principal port d'entrée en France. Ce n'était ni le moment ni le lieu lors d'une inauguration.
Espérons cependant qu'elle (ou ses services) ne soient pas dupes !
ou elle fait tout simplement son boulot de ministre (ie en l'occurrence de super-vrp): elle ne peut décemment pas critiquer en public les conditions d'accueil dans le principal port d'entrée en France. Ce n'était ni le moment ni le lieu lors d'une inauguration.
Espérons cependant qu'elle (ou ses services) ne soient pas dupes !
Ah mais bien sûr qu'elle doit se montrer positive. çà, je ne le conteste absolument pas. Mais je pense que lorsqu'on parle de quelque chose qui globalement fonctionne mal ( en l'occurence CDG, comme déjà mille fois débatu ici ), on peut être positif sans tomber dans le délire ( mon préféré, c'est le "feu d'artifices d'investissements à CDG" alors qu'au T2B ou D, y a 1 écran sur 2 en panne, au Terminal 1, tu as en moyenne 2 guichets d'immigration ouverts même si 4 747 arrivent d'Asie en même temps ! )
Tyrolien
It's a beautifull day - don't let it get away -
Je veux pas faire le rabas joie, mais si j'ai bien compris, un pax qui voudrait faire par exemple Breme - CDG - New York, arrivera au T2, devra récupérer sa valise, allez prendre un bus dehors et ensuite s'enregirstrer au 2F pour repasser la sécurité puis l'immigration ...
D'après le document, en ce qui concerne les bagages, il ne faut pas les récupérer en cas de correspondance. Par contre, il faut bien prendre la navette du T2G.
D'après le document, en ce qui concerne les bagages, il ne faut pas les récupérer en cas de correspondance. Par contre, il faut bien prendre la navette du T2G.
Je pense que LHR et CDG cumulent un certain nombre de désavantages : historique et mentalité pour partie hérités du secteur public, impossibilité d'investir comme pour le transfert de GMP à ICN, le transfert de HKG, le nouveau terminal 3 à PEK plus grand que la somme de tous les terminaux de LHR, ou les projets de DXB. Cela ne les empêche pas d'être aux deux premiers rangs mondiaux en termes de trafic international. De la même façon, si les avis sur SPL sont en général meilleurs que ceux de CDG, l'évolution comparée des deux aéroports depuis 2003 est frappante. Tandis que SPL passe du 9ème rang au 12ème rang en 2007 et probablement au 14ème cette année, CDG s'est hissé du 8ème rang au 6ème rang et probablement au 5ème dès cette année, pour se rapprocher de LHR d'ici 2011. De même, le taux de bagage retardé, d'après la dernière publication de l'AEA (1er trimestre 2008) est de 19 bagages pour 1000 pour KL, et de 17, 5 pour 1000 pour AF, même s'il ne s'agit pas de la statistique de chacun des hubs. Dans la même publication, le taux de retard des vols au départ est de 25, 7% à SPL et de 24, 2% à CDG ...
Je ne dis absolument pas que les services de CDG sont à la hauteur de ce que l'on observe par exemple à HKG ou à SIN et que l'on est en droit d'attendre, mais je mesure le chemin parcouru depuis cinq ans, tout en étant frustré que les améliorations ne soient pas plus rapides (pourquoi attendre 2012 pour le S4, pourquoi pas de VAL pour le 2G) et plus soucieuses, dans le détail, du confort du passager, notamment face aux situations d'intempéries ou d'irrégularités de vol.
Pour terminer sur le 2G, il est précisé dans la version longue du dossier de presse qu'il y aura d'ici la fin de l'année une navette 2G->2E en zone réservée pour les correspondances, similaire, j'imagine, à celle, bien pratique, qui existe aujourd'hui pour les correspondances du 2D vers le 2E.
Je veux pas faire le rabas joie, mais si j'ai bien compris, un pax qui voudrait faire par exemple Breme - CDG - New York, arrivera au T2, devra récupérer sa valise, allez prendre un bus dehors et ensuite s'enregirstrer au 2F pour repasser la sécurité puis l'immigration ...
Encore un exploit du génie français ? Je pense que CDG se bat vraiment avec LHR pour être l'aéroport le moins pratique au monde. Dans ces conditions, il est évident que le risque de correspondance manquée ou de bagage perdu ne peut qu'être supérieur à ce que font d'autres hubs ...
Mais bon Madâme Lagarde a trouvé çà "magique", un exemple du "feu d'artifice d'investissements" et une preuve de la volonté de faire de "Roissy une référence" ... Alors soit MadAme Lagarde ne prend que le train, ou elle prend l'avion qu'au Bourget, ou elle a forcé sur le champagne pendant le cocktail d'inauguration, ou elle est tout simplement id..... ( Au vue du reste de son oeuvre, n'éliminons aucune piste ... )
Je ne dis absolument pas que les services de CDG sont à la hauteur de ce que l'on observe par exemple à HKG ou à SIN et que l'on est en droit d'attendre, mais je mesure le chemin parcouru depuis cinq ans, tout en étant frustré que les améliorations ne soient pas plus rapides (pourquoi attendre 2012 pour le S4, pourquoi pas de VAL pour le 2G) et plus soucieuses, dans le détail, du confort du passager, notamment face aux situations d'intempéries ou d'irrégularités de vol.
Pour terminer sur le 2G, il est précisé dans la version longue du dossier de presse qu'il y aura d'ici la fin de l'année une navette 2G->2E en zone réservée pour les correspondances, similaire, j'imagine, à celle, bien pratique, qui existe aujourd'hui pour les correspondances du 2D vers le 2E.
Je veux pas faire le rabas joie, mais si j'ai bien compris, un pax qui voudrait faire par exemple Breme - CDG - New York, arrivera au T2, devra récupérer sa valise, allez prendre un bus dehors et ensuite s'enregirstrer au 2F pour repasser la sécurité puis l'immigration ...
Encore un exploit du génie français ? Je pense que CDG se bat vraiment avec LHR pour être l'aéroport le moins pratique au monde. Dans ces conditions, il est évident que le risque de correspondance manquée ou de bagage perdu ne peut qu'être supérieur à ce que font d'autres hubs ...
Mais bon Madâme Lagarde a trouvé çà "magique", un exemple du "feu d'artifice d'investissements" et une preuve de la volonté de faire de "Roissy une référence" ... Alors soit MadAme Lagarde ne prend que le train, ou elle prend l'avion qu'au Bourget, ou elle a forcé sur le champagne pendant le cocktail d'inauguration, ou elle est tout simplement id..... ( Au vue du reste de son oeuvre, n'éliminons aucune piste ... )
Bonne analyse, sauf que SPL n'est pas un code officiel, c'est AMS.
Mes vidéos de vols sur Vimeo
Ma carte de voyage sur Openflights
Après contact avec AF, il est confirmé qu'il n'y a pour l'instant pas de salon, mais que son ouverture sur 125m2 (ca va encore être une boite à sardine !!) est prévue pour 2009.
Sympa pour les pax haute contribution ... Mais rassurez vous, AF vous donne le droit d'utiliser n'importe quel autre salon d'un autre terminal en attendant ... Tout en gardant à l'esprit qu'après il faut aller prendre le bus pour le 2G ...
Faire du ciel le plus bel endroit de la terre, et faire des salons l'endroit le plus pourri de la terre .... :)
Sympa pour les pax haute contribution ... Mais rassurez vous, AF vous donne le droit d'utiliser n'importe quel autre salon d'un autre terminal en attendant ... Tout en gardant à l'esprit qu'après il faut aller prendre le bus pour le 2G ...
Faire du ciel le plus bel endroit de la terre, et faire des salons l'endroit le plus pourri de la terre .... :)
Voyager, Voyager toujours Voyager ...
Des étoiles dans les yeux et le ciel plein la tête ...
C'est vrai que CDG progresse en terme de traffic, mais c'est sans doute très lié à l'évolution aussi d'Air France ( et a contrario de la fusion avec KLM pour faire baisser AMS )
Ce qui me choque toujours le plus à CDG, c'est l'absence totale de vision à long terme sur cet aéroport, problème chronique depuis sa création ( les utilisateurs du T1 comme moi avec LH et SQ peuvent en témoigner !! )
Puisque tu citais SIN comme une référence, c'est justement tout l'inverse de CDG. Je prends souvent le vol SIN-ZRH ou SIN-FRA pour rejoindre ensuite la vallée viennoise. Le vol part vers 13h et la première fois que j'ai été au T3 de SIN, je me suis dit que cet aéroport était vraiment vide ( et donc calme ). J'y suis repassé il y a 3 semaines, j'étais assis dans un des restaurants du food court et il y avait à coté de moi, un groupe qui faisait la visite guidé de l'aéroport ( ben oui, à SIN on visite les aéroports ... drôle d'idée ). Le guide expliqué que l'aéroport était aujourd'hui "trop" grand, parce que les autorités avaient planifié une augmentation de X% par an pour les 15 années à venir, et que donc l'aéroport ne serait saturé que d'ici une vingtaine d'année ... C'est cette même logique qui à pousser les changements de l'aéroports de Vienne pour ceux qui connaissent, et c'est le problème que connait FRA actuellement
Quid de CDG ? On a toujours l'impression qu'à peine lancer, les terminaux sont déjà saturés ... Je suis un utilisateur assez régulier du T2D ( vols AF et OS pour Autriche et Allemagne ) et du T2F, et bien que ce dernier soit très récent, c'est déjà la panique quand on a un vol tot le matin par exemple ( longue attente à la sécurité, terminal blindé, salon complet, avions au large de chez large ... )
L'exemple donné d'un salon de 125 m2 est à ce titre terriblement révélateur je trouve ...
Puisque tu citais SIN comme une référence, c'est justement tout l'inverse de CDG. Je prends souvent le vol SIN-ZRH ou SIN-FRA pour rejoindre ensuite la vallée viennoise. Le vol part vers 13h et la première fois que j'ai été au T3 de SIN, je me suis dit que cet aéroport était vraiment vide ( et donc calme ). J'y suis repassé il y a 3 semaines, j'étais assis dans un des restaurants du food court et il y avait à coté de moi, un groupe qui faisait la visite guidé de l'aéroport ( ben oui, à SIN on visite les aéroports ... drôle d'idée ). Le guide expliqué que l'aéroport était aujourd'hui "trop" grand, parce que les autorités avaient planifié une augmentation de X% par an pour les 15 années à venir, et que donc l'aéroport ne serait saturé que d'ici une vingtaine d'année ... C'est cette même logique qui à pousser les changements de l'aéroports de Vienne pour ceux qui connaissent, et c'est le problème que connait FRA actuellement
Quid de CDG ? On a toujours l'impression qu'à peine lancer, les terminaux sont déjà saturés ... Je suis un utilisateur assez régulier du T2D ( vols AF et OS pour Autriche et Allemagne ) et du T2F, et bien que ce dernier soit très récent, c'est déjà la panique quand on a un vol tot le matin par exemple ( longue attente à la sécurité, terminal blindé, salon complet, avions au large de chez large ... )
L'exemple donné d'un salon de 125 m2 est à ce titre terriblement révélateur je trouve ...
Tyrolien
It's a beautifull day - don't let it get away -
Je suis entièrement d'accord sur la qualité bien supérieure de plusieurs aéroports en Asie, avec SIN comme parfait example. Dans le cas de PEK, on est un peu inquiet néanmoins de la surcapacité du terminal 3, conjuguée avec une quasi-stagnation du trafic pour le premier semestre. Le gestionnaire de l'aéroport a même publié un profit warning fin juillet. Pour ce qui est d'AMS, je ne pense pas qu'il y ait de volonté d'affaiblir le hub néerlandais. La progression y est faible, mais régulière, tandis que celle de leurs concurrents, dont CDG, est plus forte. L'écart se creuse mécaniquement avec en plus une nouvelle éco-taxe entrée en vigueur cet été, même si les aéroports français et britanniques ont subi cette taxe depuis plus longtemps.
Je pense que CDG a été très bien conçu dans une perspective de long terme. Le transfert forcé d'ORY à CDG me semble, rétrospectivement (c'est toujours plus facile), un excellent choix stratégique pour le développement de la plate-forme parisienne. A l'opposé, c'est le manque de vision stratégique de long terme et de courage qui a empêché les Britanniques de créer un nouvel aéroport ex nihilo; ce dont souffre LHR aujourd'hui, c'est surtout la limitation à deux pistes. CDG4 apparaît déjà dans les documents remis par ADP à l'Autorité des Marchés Financiers, avec un début de mise en service en 2016 ...
Ce qui a pêché à CDG, c'est la qualité de la mise en oeuvre de la stratégie (exemple du SK, salle d'embarquement du 2E) et surtout l'absence pendant longtemps de culture du service client, qui reste à l'état d'ébauche, même si elle est en progrès.
Je vole aussi régulièrement sur VIE, depuis CDG et LHR. Les développements actuels y sont les bienvenus. J'ai systématiquement un bus pour les vols BA et le contrôle de sécurité en zone Schengen, par porte d'embarquement, comme à CDG 2B n'est pas très pratique. J'aimerais bien que AF et BA (c'est de leur responsabilité et non de celle de l'aéroport) permettent l'enregistrement des bagages à Wien Mitte. J'espère que l'ouverture du 2G va permettre de soulager le 2D et éventuellement le 2F. En général, je n'ai plus de problème au 2E, assez peu au 2F. Je pense que l'un des problèmes les plus délicats reste celui des correspondances entre le 2C et le 2E pour les passagers notamment indiens, volant de la côte Est vers l'Inde. J'avoue que je ne fréquente pas beaucoup CDG1, mais j'ai tout de même droit au 2B pour mes vols BA 😉
Je pense que CDG a été très bien conçu dans une perspective de long terme. Le transfert forcé d'ORY à CDG me semble, rétrospectivement (c'est toujours plus facile), un excellent choix stratégique pour le développement de la plate-forme parisienne. A l'opposé, c'est le manque de vision stratégique de long terme et de courage qui a empêché les Britanniques de créer un nouvel aéroport ex nihilo; ce dont souffre LHR aujourd'hui, c'est surtout la limitation à deux pistes. CDG4 apparaît déjà dans les documents remis par ADP à l'Autorité des Marchés Financiers, avec un début de mise en service en 2016 ...
Ce qui a pêché à CDG, c'est la qualité de la mise en oeuvre de la stratégie (exemple du SK, salle d'embarquement du 2E) et surtout l'absence pendant longtemps de culture du service client, qui reste à l'état d'ébauche, même si elle est en progrès.
Je vole aussi régulièrement sur VIE, depuis CDG et LHR. Les développements actuels y sont les bienvenus. J'ai systématiquement un bus pour les vols BA et le contrôle de sécurité en zone Schengen, par porte d'embarquement, comme à CDG 2B n'est pas très pratique. J'aimerais bien que AF et BA (c'est de leur responsabilité et non de celle de l'aéroport) permettent l'enregistrement des bagages à Wien Mitte. J'espère que l'ouverture du 2G va permettre de soulager le 2D et éventuellement le 2F. En général, je n'ai plus de problème au 2E, assez peu au 2F. Je pense que l'un des problèmes les plus délicats reste celui des correspondances entre le 2C et le 2E pour les passagers notamment indiens, volant de la côte Est vers l'Inde. J'avoue que je ne fréquente pas beaucoup CDG1, mais j'ai tout de même droit au 2B pour mes vols BA 😉
Puisqu'on parle du territoire viennois, je pense que tu peux t'enregistrer à Wien Mitte pour les vols AF parce qu'ils sont en code-share avec Austrian. Je l'ai déjà fait sur des vols opérés AF, mais je ne sais pas si on m'a enregistré parce que j'avais fais une résa chez OS ou si c'est parce que j'ai ma carte M&M
Malheureusement, ce petit secret viennois s'est un peu ébruité, et le vendredi soir notament, tu seras vraiment pas seul à enregistrer au comptoir de la gare S-Bahn
Malheureusement, ce petit secret viennois s'est un peu ébruité, et le vendredi soir notament, tu seras vraiment pas seul à enregistrer au comptoir de la gare S-Bahn
Tyrolien
It's a beautifull day - don't let it get away -
Bonne analyse, sauf que SPL n'est pas un code officiel, c'est AMS.
SPL R SCHIPHOL RAIL STATION /NL
Presque, c'est la gare ferroviaire, située à coté de l'aéroport.
SPL R SCHIPHOL RAIL STATION /NL
Presque, c'est la gare ferroviaire, située à coté de l'aéroport.
Halte à la désinformation.
Les conseilleurs ne sont pas les payeurs.
Bonjour,
Contribution tardive... Arrivée l'autre soir d'Athènes par AF1733 au terminal 2G au lieu du 2D prévu, autant dire que je n'ai pas trouvé que c'était une bonne surprise. Il est vrai que nous avions 10 minutes d'avance sur l'horaire. Les bons et les mauvais points, en vrac :on n'arrive pas au contact, on prend un bus ; couloirs inter...minables ;architecture intérieure également quelque peu... minable (je ne connais que les arrivées) ;les bagages ont été livrés ponctuellement ;mais comme le CDGVal n'arrive pas au 2G, il faut reprendre une navette pour aller chercher le Val à la gare SNCF pour aller récupérer ma voiture au PX... grr...Cela donne vraiment l'impression d'être encore en-dessous du 2D et même du T1... qu'avons-nous fait, sur les vols Europe d'AF, pour mériter si peu de la part d'ADP ? Et Athènes, même si c'est un vol Europe, ce n'est pas si court que ça... J'ai vraiment l'impression que tout est fait pour impressionner et attirer l'Amérique et l'Asie, et que le reste est considéré comme quantité négligeable...
Contribution tardive... Arrivée l'autre soir d'Athènes par AF1733 au terminal 2G au lieu du 2D prévu, autant dire que je n'ai pas trouvé que c'était une bonne surprise. Il est vrai que nous avions 10 minutes d'avance sur l'horaire. Les bons et les mauvais points, en vrac :on n'arrive pas au contact, on prend un bus ; couloirs inter...minables ;architecture intérieure également quelque peu... minable (je ne connais que les arrivées) ;les bagages ont été livrés ponctuellement ;mais comme le CDGVal n'arrive pas au 2G, il faut reprendre une navette pour aller chercher le Val à la gare SNCF pour aller récupérer ma voiture au PX... grr...Cela donne vraiment l'impression d'être encore en-dessous du 2D et même du T1... qu'avons-nous fait, sur les vols Europe d'AF, pour mériter si peu de la part d'ADP ? Et Athènes, même si c'est un vol Europe, ce n'est pas si court que ça... J'ai vraiment l'impression que tout est fait pour impressionner et attirer l'Amérique et l'Asie, et que le reste est considéré comme quantité négligeable...
A propos du Terminal 2G, voici quelques photos perso du salon "patio" d'AF:
L'entrée avec digicode

La restauration avec double machine à café/thé, de meilleur qualité que celle des patios d'Orly
L'espace cafétaria
Des fauteuils blanc incroyablement salissant et pourtant le salon n'est pas vieux, au fond on distingue LE SEUL et L'UNIQUE PC HP mis en place par AF
Voici à quoi peut ressembler votre diner au patio...
L'entrée avec digicode

La restauration avec double machine à café/thé, de meilleur qualité que celle des patios d'Orly

L'espace cafétaria

Des fauteuils blanc incroyablement salissant et pourtant le salon n'est pas vieux, au fond on distingue LE SEUL et L'UNIQUE PC HP mis en place par AF

Voici à quoi peut ressembler votre diner au patio...

Mes vidéos de vols sur Vimeo
Ma carte de voyage sur Openflights
C'est un terminal destiné aux avions regionaux des filiales. Il n'y a pas de contact passerelle mais du faux contact toutefois sans bus. Le T2G est quand même bcp mieux en terme de confort et est moins bondé que le T2F. J'ai fait un CDG Leipzig et là j'ai pu le découvrir. Y'a un petit coté hangar certes mais mieux que le T2D. Enfin voila, pour les clients frequents qui prenaient les filiales avant du T2B et D ils apprécient bcp ce nouveau terminal...
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Sur le confort du 2G en soi, d'accord avec toi, Bibip. Je n'apprécie guère le 2D qui est bondé, qui offre des prestations minimales pour prendre un pot (si pas accès au salon), et quand l'embarquement ou le débarquement se font au contact au 2D, c'est champagne... Le 2F est plus spacieux mais je ne l'ai vu vide qu'à cinq heures du matin...
Ce qui me chiffonne, c'est qu'on nous ait changé de terminal car l'arrivée depuis ATH était prévue au 2D sur mon billet. Et que le CDGVal n'aille pas au 2G, donc de devoir prendre le bus, comme au bon vieux temps 😕
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Back in February, I booked a flight with Air France-KLM from Lyon to San Diego with a layover in Amsterdam (flights operated by KLM). The flight is scheduled for late August. My Lyon→Amsterdam flight was canceled by KLM in June, and a replacement flight the evening before was booked for me. So, I’ll end up spending the night at Amsterdam Airport to catch my flight to San Diego the next morning.
Since the cancellation happened more than 14 days before departure, I know I’m not entitled to financial compensation (EU Regulation 261/2004). But am I entitled to reimbursement for a hotel night in Amsterdam?
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Since the cancellation happened more than 14 days before departure, I know I’m not entitled to financial compensation (EU Regulation 261/2004). But am I entitled to reimbursement for a hotel night in Amsterdam?
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We had planned a trip to Sicily in August, and due to the volcanic eruption of Mount Etna, my flight was canceled. The airline is refunding the outbound flight, but none of the non-refundable expenses: accommodation booked through Booking, rental car, and the return flight aren’t covered. My SUPER Gold card doesn’t work in this specific case! :( If anyone has been in this situation, could you let me know if you were able to get any recourse and, if so, how?
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I’ve been traveling regularly for over twenty years,
but this is the first time an airline has treated me as poorly as Air France.
Two trips, two problems. The latest:
Trip from Seoul to Rennes. Last leg from Paris CDG to Rennes with Air France.
I arrive in Paris and go straight to Air France to get my boarding pass to Rennes. They assure me my baggage is continuing to Rennes.
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The Air France office is closed, and the airport staff tell me there’s rarely anyone there.
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Four days later, the baggage is still in the same place at CDG—nothing’s moving.
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I’ve had lost baggage on other trips, but this is the first time I’ve seen such indifference and lack of professionalism.
but this is the first time an airline has treated me as poorly as Air France.
Two trips, two problems. The latest:
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I arrive in Paris and go straight to Air France to get my boarding pass to Rennes. They assure me my baggage is continuing to Rennes.
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The Air France office is closed, and the airport staff tell me there’s rarely anyone there.
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The problem is Air France has no customer service. What they call customer service is a department that takes an hour to answer and just repeats what’s on the online form. No coordination, no way to get things moving. I guess Air France would rather pay the compensation after 21 days than actually do something.
I’ve had lost baggage on other trips, but this is the first time I’ve seen such indifference and lack of professionalism.
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I booked an Etihad ticket on their website for Dusseldorf-Abu Dhabi. In the first name field, I entered all my first names (something I never do and I regret it, but the site was confusing). Everything is spelled correctly, but the problem is that I just received my new passport and only my first two first names and the first letter of the third appear—there’s no trace of the last one.
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Hello,
Since it came into force, Regulation 261/2004 of the European Parliament and Council, which defines air passenger rights, has faced fierce resistance from airlines, backed by IATA (the association representing almost all passenger airlines).
Beyond the airlines' often abusive—and even frequently bad-faith—resistance to passenger rights, IATA has been lobbying EU institutions for years, with the Council paying close attention for a long time.
As a result, the Council and the Commission have been proposing revisions to Regulation 261/2004 for years that are particularly unfavorable to passengers. The latest attempt nearly eliminated the right to compensation for delays of 3 hours or more upon arrival at the final destination.
However, since this is a regulation of both the European Parliament AND the Council, the two bodies had to agree.
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It’s clear that, despite a few details, these changes are very positive for upholding passenger rights. It remains to be seen whether this text will be definitively adopted on July 7, 2026, as is very likely, and, more importantly, whether IATA will encourage airlines to loyally respect these new rules or persist in their old habits.
Best regards,
Since it came into force, Regulation 261/2004 of the European Parliament and Council, which defines air passenger rights, has faced fierce resistance from airlines, backed by IATA (the association representing almost all passenger airlines).
Beyond the airlines' often abusive—and even frequently bad-faith—resistance to passenger rights, IATA has been lobbying EU institutions for years, with the Council paying close attention for a long time.
As a result, the Council and the Commission have been proposing revisions to Regulation 261/2004 for years that are particularly unfavorable to passengers. The latest attempt nearly eliminated the right to compensation for delays of 3 hours or more upon arrival at the final destination.
However, since this is a regulation of both the European Parliament AND the Council, the two bodies had to agree.
But the European Parliament has always stood firm, consistently responding that passenger rights must be preserved.
After 11 years of struggle, it seems likely that we’re finally nearing the end of the match between the European Commission, the Council (the 27 heads of state or government), and the European Parliament.
Indeed, the Commission and the European Parliament have agreed on a text that will be debated again on Monday, July 6, 2026, with a vote scheduled for July 7, 2026. It’s very likely that this text, which would come into force in a year, will be adopted.
The main changes would be as follows: - Families with children will no longer be forced to pay to sit together on planes; - A flight will be considered canceled (not just delayed) if it departs more than one hour late; - Right to compensation for arrival at the final destination if the delay exceeds 3 hours (no longer "3 hours OR more"). The arrival time will be when the plane, having reached its parking spot, engages its parking brakes (no longer when the aircraft door opens); - Airlines can no longer refuse boarding or charge extra on the return flight for a passenger who didn’t take the outbound flight; - If a flight is canceled, the airline must, at the same time as informing passengers of the event, offer the choice between a refund and re-routing, and inform them of their rights to assistance and, if applicable, compensation; - The airline must, without undue delay, inform passengers of the reason; - In the case of a connecting flight, if the connection is missed and the delay at the final destination entitles the passenger to compensation, the responsible airline will be liable. This is very different from the current situation, where, under the KLM ruling, any airline operating a segment of the flight is liable for compensation. This promises more disputes that the Court of Justice of the European Union will have to resolve if two separate airlines operating segments of a connecting flight are both responsible for the delay. See this case for an example: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2026/04/18/swiss-international-air-lines-la-mauvaise-foi/ Moreover, this case demonstrates in advance another potential dispute: It could be argued that it wasn’t a missed connection since the flight was canceled before the first leg even departed. - Within 96 hours of a flight that could entitle passengers to compensation, the airline must contact them to inform them of their rights and explain the next steps. - Passengers must claim their right to compensation within 9 months. This is very different from the current situation, as Regulation 261/2004 sets no time limit. Currently, national law applies—in France, the limit is 5 years. The airline must respond within 30 days. If the airline refuses compensation on the grounds of "extraordinary circumstances," it must specify which type of case it refers to from the list in the annex of the new regulation. If the case isn’t on the list, the airline must explain what the event was, why it qualifies as extraordinary circumstances with "clear, substantial, and concise" explanations, and why it’s directly linked to the reason given. It must also declare what "reasonable measures" were taken to mitigate the issue. This is, of course, a huge change in the regulation, with the clear goal of preventing airlines from declaring just anything as "extraordinary circumstances" to avoid compensation. - If, within 3 hours of a last-minute canceled or delayed flight, the airline hasn’t offered re-routing under comparable transport conditions and as soon as possible—whether on one of its own flights or another airline’s—the passenger will have the right to arrange their own re-routing and demand a refund for the new ticket, up to 400% of the original ticket price. This is a significant improvement that would have likely prevented the case described here: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2024/01/12/reacheminement-catastrophique-droit-indemnisation-meme-circonstances-extraordinaires-2/ - If a flight is canceled due to "extraordinary circumstances," the airline will only be required to offer up to 3 nights in a hotel. This is a major change, as there’s currently no limit. Expect disputes if the extraordinary circumstances end while the passenger hasn’t been re-routed. - The price of a flight, as first displayed, must obligatorily include a cabin bag. This doesn’t prevent the airline from offering a price reduction if the passenger waives the cabin bag. This will put an end to abnormal practices, such as (just one example) Condor charging extra for a cabin bag on long-haul flights like Frankfurt (Germany)–Puerto Plata (Dominican Republic)–Santo Domingo (Dominican Republic)–Frankfurt. - Free correction of a passenger’s name if requested 48 hours before departure. Note: This can’t be used to replace one passenger with another—just to correct a typo, e.g., Dupont instead of Dpont. - Airlines’ websites and apps must include information on how to file a claim.
It’s clear that, despite a few details, these changes are very positive for upholding passenger rights. It remains to be seen whether this text will be definitively adopted on July 7, 2026, as is very likely, and, more importantly, whether IATA will encourage airlines to loyally respect these new rules or persist in their old habits.
Best regards,
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I’m planning a trip to Georgia this summer and I’ve been comparing some airlines. I’m not particularly set on flying with Pegasus (though it’s convenient with direct flights from Lyon to Tbilisi), but right off the bat, Pegasus states this:
As of January 1, 2026, all foreign nationals traveling to Georgia for tourism purposes will be required to present valid travel health insurance. Guests who fail to provide the relevant health insurance will not be accepted on our flights to Georgia. Sincerely, Pegasus Airlines
In other words, if you don’t show proof of travel health insurance, you’ll be denied boarding. Personally, my credit card insurance has always been enough for me, and I’d rather not take out extra coverage... Have any of you run into this issue before? If not, what do you think? Why is Pegasus asking for this proof? Other airlines don’t mention it at all.
Hi,
I bought my flight ticket with my first (usual) first name, which appears first on my passport. However, I have two first names on my passport, and of course, it’s mentioned in the machine-readable zone at the bottom.
I booked with Turkish Airlines (through an online agency) for a trip to South Korea.
I wanted to know if it would be a problem that I only used my first first name on the ticket, while my passport has two. I had requested through the agency to add the second first name, but the airline refused because it doesn’t meet their general conditions. (They must have seen that the last name and first name were the same, and only the second first name was added.)
So, my ticket has my last name and first first name correctly spelled, and when I check in online, I’ll enter the passport details correctly.
I’ll have a layover in Istanbul on the flight.
Thanks in advance for your replies. Have a great day.
I bought my flight ticket with my first (usual) first name, which appears first on my passport. However, I have two first names on my passport, and of course, it’s mentioned in the machine-readable zone at the bottom.
I booked with Turkish Airlines (through an online agency) for a trip to South Korea.
I wanted to know if it would be a problem that I only used my first first name on the ticket, while my passport has two. I had requested through the agency to add the second first name, but the airline refused because it doesn’t meet their general conditions. (They must have seen that the last name and first name were the same, and only the second first name was added.)
So, my ticket has my last name and first first name correctly spelled, and when I check in online, I’ll enter the passport details correctly.
I’ll have a layover in Istanbul on the flight.
Thanks in advance for your replies. Have a great day.
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Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
We're leaving for Albania on June 18th. When I validated the flight tickets with Wizz Air on Booking, I only put my son's first name but forgot to include his other three first names on the ticket. On the passport: SURNAME: Dupont, FIRST NAMES: toto titi tutu tata On the flight ticket: SURNAME: Dupont, FIRST NAME: toto I can't seem to reach anyone at Wizz Air to get an answer. Booking and Wizz Air's chat say I need to modify it, but ChatGPT says it should be fine. I wanted to know if he can fly like this or if I need to change his ticket? (It costs 140 €, I know I shouldn't have made a mistake🙁)
Thanks for your feedback.
We're leaving for Albania on June 18th. When I validated the flight tickets with Wizz Air on Booking, I only put my son's first name but forgot to include his other three first names on the ticket. On the passport: SURNAME: Dupont, FIRST NAMES: toto titi tutu tata On the flight ticket: SURNAME: Dupont, FIRST NAME: toto I can't seem to reach anyone at Wizz Air to get an answer. Booking and Wizz Air's chat say I need to modify it, but ChatGPT says it should be fine. I wanted to know if he can fly like this or if I need to change his ticket? (It costs 140 €, I know I shouldn't have made a mistake🙁)
Thanks for your feedback.
Hi,
A pretty serious issue has come up in the past few weeks for traveling to Tanzania.
What’s the deal with airlines in Tanzania? https://www.capital.fr/economie-politique/ce-pays-est-tres-touristique-mais-ses-compagnies-aeriennes-sont-placees-sur-liste-noire-par-l-europe-1515325 https://www.charentelibre.fr/tourisme/la-tanzanie-sur-liste-noire-de-l-europe-des-vols-interieurs-a-haut-risque-pour-100-000-touristes-francais-25002566.php
Basically, all airlines have been blacklisted because they don’t meet European safety standards. They’re banned from flying in Europe but continue operating in Tanzania. The main issue is that travel agencies’ civil liability no longer applies to blacklisted airlines. So we can’t allow clients to fly with these carriers. Of course, there’s huge pressure from European agencies, which are forced to disrupt their plans or even cancel trips because of this. Personally, I’ve got a trip planned for February 2026 to the southern parks in Tanzania, so I’ll be keeping an eye on how this develops. Do any of you have updates? Thanks!
Loïc
A pretty serious issue has come up in the past few weeks for traveling to Tanzania.
What’s the deal with airlines in Tanzania? https://www.capital.fr/economie-politique/ce-pays-est-tres-touristique-mais-ses-compagnies-aeriennes-sont-placees-sur-liste-noire-par-l-europe-1515325 https://www.charentelibre.fr/tourisme/la-tanzanie-sur-liste-noire-de-l-europe-des-vols-interieurs-a-haut-risque-pour-100-000-touristes-francais-25002566.php
Basically, all airlines have been blacklisted because they don’t meet European safety standards. They’re banned from flying in Europe but continue operating in Tanzania. The main issue is that travel agencies’ civil liability no longer applies to blacklisted airlines. So we can’t allow clients to fly with these carriers. Of course, there’s huge pressure from European agencies, which are forced to disrupt their plans or even cancel trips because of this. Personally, I’ve got a trip planned for February 2026 to the southern parks in Tanzania, so I’ll be keeping an eye on how this develops. Do any of you have updates? Thanks!
Loïc
Hi,
Right now, with the war raging in Iran and affecting all the neighboring countries of the Persian Gulf, many airports are completely closed to all traffic.
Several airlines like Qatar Airways, Emirates, and others have almost completely halted their operations.
Whether in the Middle East or Africa, many travelers are stranded—maybe for a long time... A heartfelt thought for them and the struggles this will cause.
Four months ago, I was in Kenya with a flight booked through Qatar Airways... I can’t even imagine how I’d react if I were stuck there now. ??
Wishing all these travelers courage, patience, and success in making it back home.
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Doha Airport on October 21, 2025:

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Right now, with the war raging in Iran and affecting all the neighboring countries of the Persian Gulf, many airports are completely closed to all traffic.
Several airlines like Qatar Airways, Emirates, and others have almost completely halted their operations.
Whether in the Middle East or Africa, many travelers are stranded—maybe for a long time... A heartfelt thought for them and the struggles this will cause.
Four months ago, I was in Kenya with a flight booked through Qatar Airways... I can’t even imagine how I’d react if I were stuck there now. ??
Wishing all these travelers courage, patience, and success in making it back home.
...
Doha Airport on October 21, 2025:

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Hello,
I’m really surprised because in TUI’s new tour packages, the airlines they’re using are of low quality. Before, they used to prioritize major airlines, but now it’s small airlines from small countries—companies with terrible ratings and borderline safety concerns. I even just noticed this note for a Tanzania trip: "We inform you that the domestic flight segment in Tanzania included in your trip is operated by an airline listed on the European Union’s list of air carriers subject to an operating ban within the European Union. This ban only applies to European Union airspace, meaning this airline is not permitted to take off, land, or fly over European airspace. However, this airline is authorized to operate in Tanzania."
This means they’re using airlines on the blacklist!! It’s pretty worrying for safety. What do you all think?
I’m really surprised because in TUI’s new tour packages, the airlines they’re using are of low quality. Before, they used to prioritize major airlines, but now it’s small airlines from small countries—companies with terrible ratings and borderline safety concerns. I even just noticed this note for a Tanzania trip: "We inform you that the domestic flight segment in Tanzania included in your trip is operated by an airline listed on the European Union’s list of air carriers subject to an operating ban within the European Union. This ban only applies to European Union airspace, meaning this airline is not permitted to take off, land, or fly over European airspace. However, this airline is authorized to operate in Tanzania."
This means they’re using airlines on the blacklist!! It’s pretty worrying for safety. What do you all think?
Hello,
We’re planning a cruise to the UAE/QATAR/OMAN starting from DUBAI, with flights departing from Paris CDG. Which airlines would you recommend for round-trip flights, with or without a layover? We need assistance for check-in and boarding/disembarking (my husband is a mobility-impaired traveler who uses a cane and/or a walker). We’ve done a cruise return from Dubai to Paris CDG before in 2016, with a layover in Istanbul, but we booked the transfer and return flight with COSTA. For our current plan, it would be with Celestyal, which doesn’t offer round-trip flights from Paris to Dubai. Should we book very far in advance, or is a few months before departure enough (4/6 months)? We’re thinking of arriving the day before the ship departs, so we’d need to stay overnight in Dubai—either on the way there or for the return flight, depending on the flight schedules. Could you recommend a hotel not too far from the airport, and how to get to the port from the airport?
Thanks so much for your advice. Have a great Sunday! Mum49
We’re planning a cruise to the UAE/QATAR/OMAN starting from DUBAI, with flights departing from Paris CDG. Which airlines would you recommend for round-trip flights, with or without a layover? We need assistance for check-in and boarding/disembarking (my husband is a mobility-impaired traveler who uses a cane and/or a walker). We’ve done a cruise return from Dubai to Paris CDG before in 2016, with a layover in Istanbul, but we booked the transfer and return flight with COSTA. For our current plan, it would be with Celestyal, which doesn’t offer round-trip flights from Paris to Dubai. Should we book very far in advance, or is a few months before departure enough (4/6 months)? We’re thinking of arriving the day before the ship departs, so we’d need to stay overnight in Dubai—either on the way there or for the return flight, depending on the flight schedules. Could you recommend a hotel not too far from the airport, and how to get to the port from the airport?
Thanks so much for your advice. Have a great Sunday! Mum49
Hi,
It's all in the title—this means nothing's getting through, so no more oil.
In Europe, kerosene reserves are still good, but by the end of April, flights will have to be reduced.
European airports fear running out of kerosene if the Strait of Hormuz isn’t reopened within three weeks
Bluff or not? Stay tuned....
Bluff or not? Stay tuned....
Hi everyone,
I’m reaching out to ask for your help with a bit of a problem:
I booked a flight to Berlin from Orly for April 15th—it’s coming up fast. But I just made an annoying discovery: my passport expired two weeks ago.
From what I understand, in principle, I can still travel within the Schengen Zone with an expired passport as long as it’s been less than five years. However, EasyJet’s website explicitly requires a valid ID (and just to add to the fun, my national ID card has been expired for a while now).
So, I’d love to know: how strict are EasyJet’s ID checks? Do they enforce validity rules strictly and refuse boarding if the ID isn’t valid? Or is it more of a luck-of-the-draw situation?
Basically, should I just write off this trip now, or should I still try my luck—maybe with a little tearful plea? Has anyone here had a similar experience? I can’t be the only one, right!
I’m reaching out to ask for your help with a bit of a problem:
I booked a flight to Berlin from Orly for April 15th—it’s coming up fast. But I just made an annoying discovery: my passport expired two weeks ago.
From what I understand, in principle, I can still travel within the Schengen Zone with an expired passport as long as it’s been less than five years. However, EasyJet’s website explicitly requires a valid ID (and just to add to the fun, my national ID card has been expired for a while now).
So, I’d love to know: how strict are EasyJet’s ID checks? Do they enforce validity rules strictly and refuse boarding if the ID isn’t valid? Or is it more of a luck-of-the-draw situation?
Basically, should I just write off this trip now, or should I still try my luck—maybe with a little tearful plea? Has anyone here had a similar experience? I can’t be the only one, right!
Hi there!
Has anyone taken the direct flight from CDG to Las Vegas with Air France?
Looking forward to your feedback!
Hey everyone,
I booked a flight with RyanAir for next month, with the priority+ option and two cabin bags. So I can take a 10 kg bag with dimensions 55x40x20 in the cabin (plus another smaller one). The problem is that the smallest suitcase I have (which is supposed to be designed specifically for cabin size standards, according to the manual) has the following dimensions: 55x37x21, so it's just 1 cm over (wheels included) on one of the measurements.
I wasn’t too worried at first, but I’ve read dozens of stories about people’s misadventures and the hassles they’ve had with RyanAir.
Since I don’t want my suitcase to end up in the hold (that would waste time picking it up when I’m already arriving late and need to get to the city center), nor do I want to pay an extra fee (apparently 50 €) for the outbound and return flights for just 1 centimeter—especially since I paid for the "priority+" option and I’m not exactly rolling in money—I’d love some advice.
Have any of you been in the same situation? I’ve read that with this airline, they check bags in templates (testing them in different positions) and are completely uncompromising. I tried contacting customer service, who, as luck would have it, "don’t handle this kind of request," and a rep I spoke to wasn’t much help.
I know it’s a low-cost airline, and I don’t expect luxury or even kindness, but come on—just 1 cm on a short flight with the + option... I’m a bit overwhelmed by everything I’ve read...
Just to clarify, since I’m going for 8 days, I can’t just take one bag for my stuff. I’ve done that for shorter trips before, and it was a hassle—I even had to buy an extra bag for the return trip... Luckily, the inspector was nice about it!
Thanks so much! I’m a newbie when it comes to air travel :) Hope I posted this in the right section!
I booked a flight with RyanAir for next month, with the priority+ option and two cabin bags. So I can take a 10 kg bag with dimensions 55x40x20 in the cabin (plus another smaller one). The problem is that the smallest suitcase I have (which is supposed to be designed specifically for cabin size standards, according to the manual) has the following dimensions: 55x37x21, so it's just 1 cm over (wheels included) on one of the measurements.
I wasn’t too worried at first, but I’ve read dozens of stories about people’s misadventures and the hassles they’ve had with RyanAir.
Since I don’t want my suitcase to end up in the hold (that would waste time picking it up when I’m already arriving late and need to get to the city center), nor do I want to pay an extra fee (apparently 50 €) for the outbound and return flights for just 1 centimeter—especially since I paid for the "priority+" option and I’m not exactly rolling in money—I’d love some advice.
Have any of you been in the same situation? I’ve read that with this airline, they check bags in templates (testing them in different positions) and are completely uncompromising. I tried contacting customer service, who, as luck would have it, "don’t handle this kind of request," and a rep I spoke to wasn’t much help.
I know it’s a low-cost airline, and I don’t expect luxury or even kindness, but come on—just 1 cm on a short flight with the + option... I’m a bit overwhelmed by everything I’ve read...
Just to clarify, since I’m going for 8 days, I can’t just take one bag for my stuff. I’ve done that for shorter trips before, and it was a hassle—I even had to buy an extra bag for the return trip... Luckily, the inspector was nice about it!
Thanks so much! I’m a newbie when it comes to air travel :) Hope I posted this in the right section!
Hi there,
When I run searches on Skyscanner, I see that only Lufthansa has flights to Seoul with just one stop. Air France doesn’t show up, even though I thought the French airline served Seoul? I can’t even log into the Air France website—it keeps glitching.
When I run searches on Skyscanner, I see that only Lufthansa has flights to Seoul with just one stop. Air France doesn’t show up, even though I thought the French airline served Seoul? I can’t even log into the Air France website—it keeps glitching.
Hi there,
I’d like to return to Uzbekistan next April for 10 days with my husband to visit our son who lives there. We went last July and I bought the flight tickets (direct flight from Paris on Uzbekistan Airways) about 2 months in advance at very reasonable prices. I’ve been checking for late April for a few weeks now, and the tickets are much more expensive and keep rising. I can’t figure out if the prices are going up because it’s still a bit too early to buy and they’ll likely drop if the planes aren’t full, or if it’s because the period is actually in high demand. For reference, last year I bought my son’s ticket on May 30th for a departure on June 3rd—just 3 days later—at a very low price that didn’t budge at all.
Just in case, does anyone know the pricing trends for this airline and can advise me? Should I wait or not?
Thanks, and feel free to ask if you need any tips about the country!
My wife bought a flight ticket (Lucky Air) under her Thai maiden name and was issued a Chinese visa on her new Thai passport but with her French married name (due to administrative requirements). She was denied boarding by the airline in Bangkok for the flight to Kunming—resulting in the loss of our round-trip flight tickets, including mine since we were traveling together—despite presenting both passports at the airline counter at the same time.
Hi there.
I’m planning a trip to Chile, and the fares from the Colombian airline Avianca are really appealing.
Way cheaper than Air France, for example.
That said, the reviews I’ve seen online aren’t great.
What do you think of this airline?
Have any of you taken long-haul flights with Avianca?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Eric







