So where are they and what are they doing?
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VO Voyajou Globetrotter ·
... rigor as reasoning, all that escapes you...

I don’t know if this escapes Attila, but if you stuck to it, you wouldn’t write things like, among others, « would Trump have been massively elected if the campaign to take him down, discredit him, and eliminate him hadn’t been so strong?». Words have meaning, as you regularly remind us. The American electoral system (indirect universal suffrage), as you well know, is unique and complex. While the delegate count—those who actually vote for the president—was quite significant (312 vs. 227), the popular vote, which counts in France, for example, was much closer: 77.3 million (49.8%) for Trump and 75.02 million (48.3%) for Harris. That’s a difference of 2.3 million votes (1.5% of voters). Incidentally, the election was decided by a bandana-thin margin of 250,000 votes (0.18% of voters) in three swing states. You called that massive? (Figures from Wikipedia, so take them with a grain of salt, 😇)

Here, she invokes reasons and assessment factors that make no sense, quite simply

Implacable doesn’t mean incoherent in its reasoning: and honestly, whether it’s her or anyone else, this isn’t coherent.

As a citizen, you can say what you want (count your blessings—elsewhere, you’d be on the foreign agents list), but unlike the legal experts cited by Zorba and Kola, you’re simply not qualified to comment on a court decision like this. Just read your own wording.
TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
Good evening Jean-Luc...

The Massif viewed in terms of states and major voters.

If as a citizen you can say what you want (count your blessings: elsewhere you’d be on the list of foreign agents), unlike the legal experts cited by Zorba and Kola, you’re simply not qualified to comment on a court decision like this. Just read your own wording.

We’re seeing a recurring flaw in public discourse that really came to the fore in 2020: the idea that only the "professionals of the profession" can have a legitimate opinion, even on the social implications of their actions. Legal experts judging only as legal experts, doctors unable to step outside their paradigm. A kind of technocratic corporatism, then, which you happily promote when it suits you, but which does a lot of damage to debate and trust. Don’t forget that democracy, in its ancient foundations, sought to escape professional judgments and kept scholars and specialists out of the realm of political and social ideas. As E. Macron once said, back when he still knew how to be liberal: "be proud to be amateurs."

Michel
VO Voyajou Globetrotter ·
Massif seen in terms of states and major voters.

Don’t cling to the branches of the sequoia—you don’t have the agility for it. You’re basing your analysis on images? So does my 4-year-old grandson! I’ve noticed you place more importance on vox populi.

For the rest, you’re dodging the question, as usual.
ZO Zorba Veteran ·
Ave Giovani Lucius, cui corniurat te salutat!

I took a while to reply because I’ve been struggling to gather ideas that aren’t too stupid or too cliché—but these struggles only grow with the weeks. I feel like soon my thoughts will only churn out platitudes...

Indeed, I’m a "quoque" conspiracy theorist. Conspiracy-mindedness is the mark of a scientist or practitioner of any discipline who questions things. Science has always progressed through doubt. Calling someone a conspiracy theorist, to me, is the height of stupidity—a sign of blind conformity, lack of imagination, and arrogance. Let’s get to the topics you mentioned, but first, I’d like to bring up the great philosopher Caius Laïusmaximus:

"Sumpti dum est hic, apportavit legato alacrem eorum"

Let’s talk simply about the "national mainstream press." It barely exists in print anymore; it’s read online or heard on the airwaves. It’s owned by a handful of billionaires. I won’t say "they’re all corrupt"—that’s a label more fitting for politicians. The press, on the other hand, is either "the voice of its master" or "takes orders."

The alternative media I follow all rely on Patreon for funding. I doubt they receive government handouts. Now, to the facts—and I’m sorry to contradict you: the national press is a powerful collective tool for pushing agendas. It all started with the sudden launch of a toothpaste mascot, "Mr. White Teeth": Jean Lecanuet. Just as suddenly and in perfect sync, we got the rise of Ségolène Royal, with the slogan "What if it were her?" Then, a complete unknown—Emmanuel Macron—saturated the landscape with his 50 magazine covers.

Another example of manufactured consensus is the narrative around the Ukraine war, which is said to have begun on February 23, 2022, casting the Russians as savage aggressors against peaceful Ukraine. Erased are Putin’s warnings at the Munich Conference, the Maidan coup, Victoria Nuland with her doughnuts and her "fuck the EU" moment, the Ukrainian civil war, and the Minsk agreements. The press uniformly portrays Zelensky as Churchillian, Ukraine as virtuous, and the conflict as one between the Russian Federation and Ukraine—when the reality is quite different, as seen by who’s actually at the negotiating table.

Another case of directed opinion is the COVID-19 episode. It certainly wasn’t the national press that revealed the lab-leak theory or the vaccine’s inability to stop transmission. We’re still waiting for a flood of information on this—information that will come from abroad, not from our national media.

I’m just tossing out ideas from my limited intellectual toolkit, but I can assure you that this kind of truth manipulation is the subject of very advanced studies in various organizations. The UK, in particular, is a leader in this field.

Talking to people here and there, I sense a soft consensus and a real lack of information—kind of like the U.S. population 40 years ago. What a dream to rule over the ignorant!

Finally, I have something to say about challenging your own certainties. I’ll talk about my experience soon. It was painful but incredibly liberating. That experience is probably what pushed me into conspiracy theories.

Nox tibi dulce! Giovanni Lucius maximus!
TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
Hello there....

Am I dodging the question?

A legal expert gives a technical assessment of a court decision; and in itself, technically, the one we’re discussing is no doubt formally within the rules. But that’s not the point. The point is that the worst person to comment is probably the legal expert, who is steeped in a paradigm and can only offer opinions within their own system of thought, references, and benchmarks. I’m talking about medical specialists—I’m *not* saying doctors—in 2020, because it’s exactly the same thing: specialists blinded by what matters to them, unable to take into account society, the human condition, values, religion, everything that people live by when influencing the executive on initiatives. Specialists who played with public opinion, with fears, relying on compliant and oligarchic media; we see every day, elsewhere and here too, the cost of these mistakes and their consequences on trust in institutional speech. Giving too much power to specialists, in law, medicine, or anything else, is harmful, and we must keep them in check when they don’t restrain themselves.

I hope what Catherine is glimpsing is wrong: the idea that the real motivation behind the decision would be to anticipate the possible election of someone who could be confirmed guilty, as a breach of public order would pose a real democratic problem. Who is sovereign and of age in a democracy without their choices? The people? The so-called elites?

Michel
MA Mathews Globetrotter ·
hi Zorba

Let’s just talk about "the great national press." It hardly exists in print anymore; it’s read in digital form or listened to on the airwaves. It’s owned by a handful of billionaires. I won’t say "they’re all corrupt"; that friendly jab applies to parliamentarians. The press, on the other hand, is either "the voice of its master" or "taking orders."

don’t you think the information fed by major media outlets leans more toward facts than real political, sociological, or economic analysis? Despite some excellent editorials here and there. And the thing you shouldn’t lose sight of—what a scoop, ha ha—is that as soon as an article or text doesn’t go viral, the media doesn’t make money because it’s only seen by a limited number of readers. Moral of the story: if you want to cultivate your mind (and I’m sure you already are, no doubt about it), then you should listen to media focused on deeper themes, like France Culture, for example. Staying informed and learning are two different things. Q.E.D.
MA Mathews Globetrotter ·
hello again

Giving too much power to specialists—whether in law, medicine, or anything else—is harmful, and we must keep them in check when they don’t regulate themselves.

So, molecular biology, alpha-amino acids, messenger RNA—none of it holds any secrets for you now? You can explain all of this in a snap?
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
To lighten the mood...

https://youtu.be/Il91bxLH1V0?si=hyMZsykYblJUc1VU
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
sudden launch of a tube of toothpaste, Mr. "White Teeth": Jean Lecanuet. With the same suddenness and synchronism, we got the launch of Ségolène Royal, with the language element "What if it were her?" Finally, a perfect unknown came to saturate the landscape in the person of Emmanuel Macron with his 50 magazine covers.

It's not quite there yet—it only works one time out of three! :
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LI LillieoneFE Veteran ·
" ce ne peut être que la fin du monde en avançant " A.Rimbaud
ZO Zorba Veteran ·
They're really clever and they've studied the electoral landscape down to the last detail. We're gonna get fooled again. Elections = a trap, basically...
ZO Zorba Veteran ·
No, two out of three, because Ségolène Royal was chosen to be an easy opponent compared to Sarkozy. It’s a bit like if they picked Sandrine Rousseau or Annalena Baerbock in Germany—top-tier women politicians!
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
That said, great video!

Those students were so lucky to experience this!

I don’t remember ever being offered such interesting classes.
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TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
Molecular biology, alpha-amino acids, messenger RNA—none of it holds any secrets for you? You can explain all that in the snap of a finger?

That’s not what I’m saying, even if I’m not as clueless on the subject as you might think. Experts are meant to study and understand, but they have no legitimacy in dictating to the public what they believe the societal consequences of their knowledge should be—even less so in the form of a "scientific committee" that prescribes policy to politicians and the executive branch. We saw some very serious actions of this kind in 2020, and what we’re discussing here about legal experts follows the same pattern.

Michel
PO Poste42 Veteran ·
Times are changing!!!
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Let me introduce you to the next President of the French Republic, but please don’t spread the word—his name is Attila, and the secret is still well kept.



- No one understands a word he says, he’ll sweep up the votes from the Résistons! supporters.

- He’s a predator, all the members of Hunting, Fishing, Nature, and Traditions will rally behind him.

- He’s a cat with blue eyes, Marine L will prefer him over Jordan B.

- He’s a sensitive being, the Animalist Party will jump on his ballot.

- He comes from diversity, he’ll seem like the ideal candidate for the LFI voters.

- He’s a female cat, he’ll appeal to feminists and deconstructed men.

- And since he’s photogenic, young, and so cute, he’ll melt the hearts of many undecided voters.

Russian and Chinese disinformation agencies will launch their campaigns as early as June 2026. TikTok, X, Instagram, and Telegram will be flooded with messages—Hanouna is in on it too.

I think he’ll get close to 65% in the first round! !
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DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
my cat is cute, and I haven’t vaccinated him... do you think I risk toxo?

No risk, you can’t get it twice!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XCOyB7WStI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2eI67iCbKY
ZO Zorba Veteran ·
I admire your political sense ; the cat’s candidacy is tempting too, since I’m pretty lost when it comes to this early election business. Coluche’s candidacy had me pretty interested back in the day.
PO Poste42 Veteran ·
But soon, with the A, we’ll figure out what he’s saying—it changes everything!
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
There’s just one little, tiny problem.

Attila passed away 12 years ago now, but I kept a few hairs as a keepsake.

I’m hoping to convince Raël to clone him.
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
As for AI, I have no idea. It can’t even come up with a credible route from Mostar to Clermont-Ferrand, so there’s still work to be done to translate the super complex language that is Mi A Ou.
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MA MaitairoaOff ·
The specialist is meant to study and understand, but has no legitimacy to impose on the public what they believe should be the societal consequences of their knowledge—even less so in the form of a "scientific committee" that prescribes to politicians and the executive.

I think you’ve got the "hierarchy" backwards here... and that, between the specialist and the politician, the one who "imposed" on the other isn’t necessarily the one you’re pointing at instead of showing us the moon...

...didn’t you realize that the so-called "scientific committee" only existed because the political/executive branch wanted a screen, an alibi, an excuse, a cover—a "straw man committee," if you will... to make the country accept the worst missteps we’ve endured? 😕
sourire ...
TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
I think you’ve got this backwards in the "hierarchy"... and that, between the specialist and the politician, the one who "imposed" on the other isn’t necessarily the one you’re pointing at instead of showing us the moon...

... didn’t you realize that the so-called "scientific committee" only existed because the political/executive branch wanted a screen, an alibi, an excuse, a cover—a "straw man committee"—take your pick... to make the country accept the worst missteps we’ve endured? 😕

No excuses. Accepting this role out of weakness or personal ambition was still a mistake. Politicians in France already had zero credibility—it didn’t get any worse. But institutional scientific and medical discourse *did* have credibility. And now it’s gone.

Michel
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
I’ve got this unpleasant feeling of being thrown back five years to the not-so-great days of Voyage Forum.

Trying to draw people in? Epic fail.
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TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
I have the unpleasant feeling of being back 5 years ago in the not-so-good times of Voyage Forum. To attract people, it’s a fail.

Did you really think things would be forgotten and forgiven? That afterward, it’d be "Let’s all make up!"?

On a more positive note, I’d be happy to contribute again here on travel topics, but only rare subjects come up now—ones I usually don’t have the skills or knowledge for. I’ve tried sharing experiences and tips, like here for example, but these stay as isolated, informative posts with no follow-up or discussion. Got any other ideas—better ones?

Michel
KA Kate Globetrotter ·
I tried to share experiences and knowledge, like here for example, but these remain informative and isolated messages that go nowhere and don’t spark any discussion.

Hi there, Your experience only covers one airport. Maybe more general info would interest people more? Reading your post, you kinda wanna say: "Okay, so what?"... Maybe we should invite travelers to share other experiences? But is that what you’re looking for?
Mes photos sur Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/153304262@N05/albums "Le Temps nous égare. Le Temps nous étreint. Le Temps nous est gare. Le Temps nous est train".
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Because you thought things would be forgotten and forgiven? That afterward it would be "Let’s all hug, Folleville!"?

It’s just a travel forum...

Do you have other ideas, better ones?

Why not step out of your usual routine and write about a country you find fascinating?

Not in the style of typical travel journals since you don’t like them (and they don’t suit you).

In whatever format you prefer, however you like.

You don’t travel like most people or to the same places, but so what? It would add some diversity to the forum.
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TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
Your experience only concerns one airport. Maybe some more general info would be more interesting? After reading your post, we’re left thinking: "Okay, and so?"...

Schiphol is pretty representative of a trend we’re seeing almost everywhere these days with the new security filter operations—except in France, which has fallen behind in modernizing this area. Boarding via gates that scan the boarding pass without document checks has also become really common, and I haven’t seen a European airport that isn’t doing this for a while now.

Michel
TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
It’s just a travel forum...

There *is* a photo contest, though.

Why not step out of your routine and write about a country you find fascinating?

Nah, not my thing.

Michel
MA Mathews Globetrotter ·
if you want some travel impressions, here you go: and if you can avoid Schiphol or London Heathrow, you’ll be better off. These airports are a bit of a pain. Try Changi Airport in Singapore—it’s really the most beautiful in the world.
NI Nimou74 Veteran ·
Excellent 😄😏 All claws out for our new president!
TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
if you want travel impressions, here you go: and if you can avoid Schiphol or London Heathrow, you’ll be better off.

Schiphol has improved a lot over the past year. I haven’t been through LHR in at least 25 years.

Michel
UN UnaMilanese Veteran ·
Hello,

I find it shocking, even quite serious. In my opinion, the justice system shouldn’t interfere or interpolate like this as a precaution or in anticipation of voters' potential choices. The people are sovereign.

A choice must be made. The fundamental alternative is the Berlusconi model in Italy, Netanyahu’s Israel, Trump’s USA... Rushing headlong, with urgency, to take refuge in the immunity granted by democratic preference. Even a scoundrel anointed by your people—which is a very abstract entity, nonexistent in reality—let’s say by a majority of voting citizens, remains a scoundrel. It’s fascinating, by the way, to see how the absolute power this grants them intoxicates and galvanizes them, to the point of caricaturing themselves. Objectively, it’s a captivating spectacle, that of this kind of individual.

Catherine
By this, and this only, we have existed. Which is not to be found in our obituaries. (T.S. Eliot)
TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
Hi Catherine,

What would Machiavelli have thought about that? You see justice as the guarantor of virtue, like a moral and superior overseer, an arbiter tasked with judging who is or isn’t a scoundrel? Who do you see in the European political sphere as a model of virtue without being the secular arm of puritanism?

Michel
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
There are plenty of good Samaritans around:

« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
ZO Zorba Veteran ·
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Oh, upright ministers! Virtuous advisors! Here’s how you Serve—servants who plunder the house.

Great find! Now we just need to find the photo of François de Rugy’s lobsters too! !
MA Mathews Globetrotter ·
hi Jojoone, is this a photo of you?
VO Voyajou Globetrotter ·
I didn’t really pay much attention to the legal case [..../...] Anyway, maybe the worst isn’t a sure thing after all.

Thanks for this delightful mishmash.
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
Thanks, I tried to match your level. Breaking down complex ideas or summarizing them isn’t easy.

Anyway, in your opinion—where are they now, and what are they doing? Will the old VF crew ever come back?
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
KO Kola Globetrotter ·
Thanks for this delicious...

...mishmash that shifts—or expands—the Overton window.
MA Mathews Globetrotter ·
hi,

every weekend, the Gulf monarchies lend us hundreds of millions to balance our banks' books—otherwise, one fine Monday morning, we'd wake up to some very big surprises.

I'd really like to know where you got this information... French banks are the ones with the largest market capitalizations in the world. BNP Paribas alone has over 3,000 billion euros in assets, so there’s plenty of room. And debt is actually considered a financial asset in accounting. The problem arises if the debtor can’t meet their repayment deadlines. Contrary to what people think and the common misconceptions, the French banking system is very solid. Don’t listen to those doing "French bashing" in YouTube videos—they’re just pushing a liberal lobbying agenda. And you’re forgetting the Silicon Valley Bank case, the Credit Suisse affair, and the Chinese real estate developer Evergrande, which went bankrupt—so financial risks aren’t unique to the French economy.
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
Weren’t we on a first-name basis?

You need to contact Jean-Pierre Chevallier, a business economist.

Since I don’t have time to dig deeper, here’s something I found on page 5: https://chevallier.biz/banksters-francais-derives-comptables-et-produits-derives-le-cas-bnp-paribas-au-25-mars-2025/

That leaves 619 more pages... happy reading and good luck with the calculations! 😉

On another note: https://www.courrierinternational.com/article/finance-les-pays-du-golfe-sont-plus-que-jamais-les-banquiers-du-monde Sorry, by the way, for not having the exact source—I didn’t know Mathews would ask me for the link 8 to 10 years later.

Assuming YouTube is my source of information isn’t exactly a compliment, but no worries. Meanwhile, I notice quite a few people seem to get their info from *Picsou Magazine*. No big deal—at the rate things are going, soon nobody will know how to read anyway, and all these problems will fade away. 😎
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
MA Mathews Globetrotter ·
You need to contact Jean-Pierre Chevallier, a business economist.

Alright, but this big bank has a lot of assets, doesn’t it? After that, if there’s any accounting misconduct, either Bercy or the Financial Markets Authority might step in and sue BNP. Okay, but what should be done, and what do you want to do? Put the bank’s employees and management in prison?

Apart from that: https://www.courrierinternational.com/article/finance-les-pays-du-golfe-sont-plus-que-jamais-les-banquiers-du-monde

Alright, but on one hand, Saudi state-owned Aramco has a smaller market cap than BNP Paribas. Plus, we can’t read the full article—it’s for subscribers only. And besides, BNP Paribas isn’t the only European bank; there are others, after all.

I notice quite a few people get their sources from Picsou Magazine.

That’s not very nice, I think. You’re basically saying I have the logic and reasoning of a middle schooler, and I’ll take that. But in case you have no accounting logic, I see a problem coming: you’ve got a hole in the bank’s accounts and a urgent call from your advisor. I obviously don’t wish that on anyone 😉
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
Oh no, I wasn’t thinking of Mathews at all 😉
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
ZO Zorba Veteran ·
hello,

Every weekend, the Gulf monarchies lend us hundreds of millions to balance our banks' books—otherwise, one fine Monday morning, we’d wake up to some very big surprises.

I’d love to know where you got this information... French banks are among those with the largest market capitalizations in the world. Take BNP Paribas, for example—it has over 3,000 billion in assets, so there’s plenty of wiggle room. And debt is actually counted as a financial asset in accounting. The problem arises if the debtor can’t meet their repayment deadlines. Contrary to what people think and the common misconceptions, the French banking system is very solid. Don’t listen to those doing "French bashing" in YouTube videos—they’re just pushing a liberal lobbying agenda. And you’re forgetting the Silicon Valley Bank case, the Credit Suisse affair, and the Chinese real estate developer Evergrande, which went bankrupt—so financial risks aren’t unique to the French economy.

Be careful with a bank’s balance sheet: in the assets column, there are doubtful receivables that will eventually need to be provisioned to acknowledge that some are unrecoverable.

Above all, you have to look at the off-balance-sheet items, which I believe include commitments related to derivative products. A few years ago, I noticed that Deutsche Bank’s commitments were several times Germany’s GDP.

Otherwise, I think it’s the state that borrows from the Gulf countries. If they’re understanding with us, it’s our turn to be understanding with them—like giving the Qatari sultan a preferential tax regime or not being too strict about the hijab or issues related to Islam in France. The same thing happens with the U.S., which asks us to buy Treasury bonds.

The time for "French bashing" is over—it’s time to realize that our financial situation is extremely serious and that our economy is MECHANICALLY heading for disaster. Next year, will we have an interest burden of 100 billion? That’s impossible to pay unless...

I hope you’ve read *Uncle Scrooge Magazine* and followed Uncle Scrooge’s advice: gold bought by all central banks has seen its price soar. Some expect it to triple again. It’s no longer being manipulated by short selling and seems to be a safe haven for USD holders—a fiat currency. "Fiat" means trust, but what if that trust disappears?
MA Mathews Globetrotter ·
In the assets column, there are doubtful receivables that will one day need to be provisioned to acknowledge that some are unrecoverable.

Uh, don’t say that to me, with all due respect. I’m just a long-term Sunday traveler, not a bank director, ha ha. But when it comes to doubtful receivables, do you dare say that the accounting of a major bank is overvalued? The answer is certainly contained in the question.

And that our economy is MECHANICALLY heading for a crash: will we have an interest charge of 100 billion next year?

I was sure someone would bring up France’s public debt. But it’s the perfect example of a non-issue ;) Because it costs the French government’s public finances nothing, zilch. Since the public sector has golden geese like highway concessions, railways, etc... Just the right to use highways, paid by motorists, brings in billions every year to the state’s coffers. So, since small streams make big rivers, a revenue stream plus another revenue stream eventually cancels out the debt charge. QED

It’s impossible to pay unless......

By "unless," should we understand IMF intervention? That’s unfortunate because France is a contributor to the IMF’s budget.
ZO Zorba Veteran ·
Villepin sold off highway concessions; toll revenues end up in private pockets.

"It's impossible unless"... the State dips into your pockets to help itself. That would only be a short-term fix because the deficit keeps growing mechanically if nothing is done.

France’s economic situation is catastrophic despite having the "Mozart of finance" at the helm. You’ll see for yourselves in 2026-27.
PO Poste42 Veteran ·
"You say 'the economic situation in France is catastrophic,' but the country keeps getting loans—why? Because it has resources and plenty of reserves.

On the other hand, facing France are the French, who aren’t poor for the vast majority.
MA Mathews Globetrotter ·
Villepin sold highway concessions; tolls end up in private pockets. .

Uh, and what about the VAT you pay when using the highway?

Otherwise, I agree with Poste42
VO Voyajou Globetrotter ·
Otherwise, in your opinion, where are they and what are they doing?

I’ve already shared my thoughts on this topic, here and elsewhere. Some are on a neighboring forum that’s starting to claim it’s the top French-speaking one. They talk about... travel there.

Will the old VF members come back?

Maybe when you start causing trouble over there. (You can totally return the compliment 😎)

Thanks, I tried to match your level.

Your message was aimed at Zorba. To reach me, you’ll have to aim lower (I know you can) or higher.

Simplifying complex ideas or summarizing them, if you prefer, isn’t easy.

And it seems like an impossible task when the “ideas” themselves aren’t well understood.

If you don’t like the *gloubi-boulga*, try *salmigondis*—it’s the same ingredients. And from those ingredients, I’ll highlight this spice:

That’s why it’s pointless to hope for a dialogue with opponents, especially since some seem quite out of touch based on the style and substance of their replies.

To me, it’s the women who’ve dominated recent debates here—is it because they’re out of touch, or is there something else going on?

@ Kola

... gloubi-boulga that shifts or expands the Overton window.

Like a bow-window?

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