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Condition des animaux en Chine
by Kirby
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Ben, que ce soit au second ou au 3 millième degré, l'important c'est qu'il y en ait ( de l'humour ) car d'un autre coté, les hardents défenseurs de la cause animales qui considère leur chien ou chat comme leur enfant et passe à coté d'un SDF sans le voir, me font autrement plus flipper que quelqu'un qui peut avoir un humour " limite ".
Ceux qui disent préferer les animaux au hommes, ceux qui regardent les images du tier monde en donnant les dernieres sucreries achetées à prix d'or à leur toutou me font autrement plus hérisser les poils, brrrr ! Je m'insurge contre la mort des bébé phoques et je vote le pen, ne font, il me semble, pas bon ménage; et pourtant c'est souvent le cas....
sinon... ça va ? Fait pas très beau aujourd'hui hein .....
Je confirme l'humour délicieux de DeClericy, malheureusement trop rare sur VF (DeClericy et l'humour en général).
Et je suis d'accord avec toi sur les défenseurs des animaux qui avouent sans vergogne les préférer aux enfants.
J'en ai cotoyé pas mal en tant que syndic bénévole de ma copropriété il y a 20 ans, ils étaient mal tombés avec moi.
Je confirme l'humour délicieux de DeClericy,
Il travaillerait pas dans le batiment lui ? Cela ne m'etonnerait pas ...🙂
Il travaillerait pas dans le batiment lui ? Cela ne m'etonnerait pas ...🙂
Tu ne crois pas si bien dire.
Amuse-toi à chercher ce que Marcel a écrit, tu vas te régaler.
Au 3 millième... Bin après avoir vu la video (c simple, recherche google vous tombez rapidement dessus) je suis tombée sur le message de l'Escabô et franchement ça a coincé là, et j'arrive toujours pas à rire sur ce coup là malgré son style !! Je ne suis pas extremiste comme certains peut etre, en fait je n'ai pas lu toute cette discussion, et je préfère bien les enfants aux animaux, rassurez vous .... pas la peine de chercher la petite bête donc 😉 !! Pour moi toute vie se respecte meme pour la manger, un minimum ...
Choucarde
Tu ne crois pas si bien dire. .
J'ai regardé son profil 🙂
J'ai regardé son profil 🙂
Je ne suis pas extremiste comme certains peut etre, en fait je n'ai pas lu toute cette discussion, et je préfère bien les enfants aux animaux, rassurez vous .... pas la peine de chercher la petite bête donc 😉 !! Pour moi toute vie se respecte meme pour la manger, un minimum ...
Nous sommes daccord... Pour la video, aucune envie de regarder ce genre de chose ( si j'imagine bien ce que c'est ...)
Nous sommes daccord... Pour la video, aucune envie de regarder ce genre de chose ( si j'imagine bien ce que c'est ...)
Ben oui...
J'en ai déjà entendu parler de ces choses évidemment mais de les voir, ça fait un autre effet et je n'ai pas pu aller jusqu'au bout... Il s'agit de faire souffrir l'animal pour que la viande soit meilleure, ce qui est prouver totalement faux c'est d'ailleurs tout le contraire...dépeçages, mutilations et certains animaux après le dépeçage sont encore vivants de longues minutes ensuite...je vous passe les regards de ces bêtes ...
Choucarde
Ca craint.....
Puisque tu me demandes si ça va, je te répond oui, et là où je suis le ciel est aujourd'hui gris clair et il fait chaud, donc tout est ok et je ne vais pas manger du chien ce soir, peut-être juste un homard, c'est la saison 😊...
Dolma
Dolma
un chemin et la caresse du vent, alors je pars en voyage...
C'est sur qu'entre un homard et un " chien chaud ", le choix est vite fait...
Je n'avais pas fait le rapprochement 😮 ! Un autre humour de bâtisseur peut-être ? Il ne faudrait pas seulement que tu lises DeCléricy, il faudrait que tu l'entendes, c'est encore plus drôle, surtout quand il ajoute 5 accents circonflexes sur les a... (pardon m'sieur le poète, je n'ai pas pu résister 😊)
Dolma
Dolma
un chemin et la caresse du vent, alors je pars en voyage...
Je n'avais pas fait le rapprochement
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Je sais, je sais, je suis parfois un peu trop fin....😉 ou un peu trop lourd, c'est au choix ! 🤪
__Je sais, je sais, je suis parfois un peu trop fin....😉 ou un peu trop lourd, c'est au choix ! 🤪
"on dirait que tu n'es pas très informé..."
C'est exact ! Je n'ai fait aucune thèse, aucune étude sur l'histoire de la nourriture en Chine, je me suis contenté de fréquenter leurs marchés - ah celui de Canton, hallucinant !-, et leurs restaurants où on ne peut que constater à quel point les chinois honorent la nourriture qui se trouve dans leur assiette, quelque que soit l'âge, le sexe, la "végatibilité" - d'ailleurs, il faudrait faire une étude sur l'arrachage des légumes, pratiqués en général sans anesthésie- de la dite nourriture !
Ton soucis de la souffrance du monde vivant t'honore ! Et je suppose même que tu ne dois pas manger des homards, car on les plonge vivants dans l'eau bouillante ! Si les homards pouvaient crier, les clients s'enfuieraient des restaurants, affolés, terrifiés !
Bon, là on pourrait manger des homards plus souvent, et moins chers !
Voyager c'est découvrir que tout le monde a tort.
Aldous Huxley
d'abord je suis végétarien et jsuis tout à fait d'accord avec toi sur la question des homards, en ce qui concerne les végétaux, ils n'ont pas la sensiblité d'un chien ou d'un chat, il n'ont pas de yeux, d'oreilles, un cerveau pr analyser ce qu'il se passe et donc il ne ressenttent pas la douleur car pr ressentir une douleur il faut avoir des nerfs qui sont reliés à un système nerveux, de plus les chiens sont des animaux fidèles, qui peuvent faire bcp de choses si on les éduque bien, et qui ont rendu d'inombrables services aux Hommes, de la chose la plus banal jusqu'à sauver des vies, je pense aux Saint bernards Suisse qui sont vendus aux Asiatiques pr qu'ils en fasse de la boullie et des manteaux, je ne te parle pas des ours en Asie qui sont gardés tte leur vie ds des cages pour leur en extraire la bile, ni des baleines en voie d'extinction car victimes de chasse intensive par les même gens, mais tu as raison c'est toute la planète qui ne respecte pas la nature, si chaque personne qui voulait manger un autre être constitué de chaire et de sang était obligé d'aller le chercher lui même et de le tuer de ses propres mains, à mon avis il y'aurait plus de végétariens sur Terre. De toutes façons je ne donne pas très longtemps à la race Humaine pr disparaitre, et pour répondre à ceux qui mettent en avant le fait qu'il y'a des humains, des enfants..qui souffrent et dont on ne se préocupe pas plus, je leur dirai que c'est surement pas de la faute des animaux mais bien des Hommes qui en plus de ne pas respecter la nature qui leur a donnée vie, ne se respectent pas entre eux.
BOnjour DeCléricy (j'ai 27ans mais à ce nivo je ne vois pas en quoi cela importe)
excuse moi de cette reponse tardive mais je crois que tu t'emflammes un peu, quand tu vois un grominet qui joue avec petit MIckey avant de lui porter le coup fatal c'est que ton grominet a eu sa ration de Whiskas® avant et généralement ds ce cas il va plutôt ramener le cadavre de sa "proie" à son maitre comme offrande plutôt que de la consommée, et pr ton autre exemple ce n'est pas du sadisme, les prédateurs, n'ayant pas d'autres choix, s'attaquent toujours aux plus faibles qui succombent très rapidement, et ils ne le font pas à la chaine, c'est de la chasse. enfin j'attends tes milles et autres exemples sur ce sujet.
excuse moi de cette reponse tardive mais je crois que tu t'emflammes un peu, quand tu vois un grominet qui joue avec petit MIckey avant de lui porter le coup fatal c'est que ton grominet a eu sa ration de Whiskas® avant et généralement ds ce cas il va plutôt ramener le cadavre de sa "proie" à son maitre comme offrande plutôt que de la consommée, et pr ton autre exemple ce n'est pas du sadisme, les prédateurs, n'ayant pas d'autres choix, s'attaquent toujours aux plus faibles qui succombent très rapidement, et ils ne le font pas à la chaine, c'est de la chasse. enfin j'attends tes milles et autres exemples sur ce sujet.
MERCI RUBENLION ! enfin quelqu'un qui a de la jugeotte !
Il y a pire que le bruit des bottes, le silence des pantoufles ! anonyme
"Sun-Tzu ou la Voie Calculatrice. Une approche à méditer".
chine tibet >http://forums.france2.fr/france2/envoyespecial/chine-resource-tibtetaine-sujet78571.htm
Je suis avec toi Kirby!
Les chinois sont particulierement attirés par les produits dits "aphrodisiaques" et helas ce sont souvent des produits issus des animaux: Penis, os de tigres, malgres l'interdiction de tuer l'animal, les prix peuvent atteindre des sommets et l'on imagine les conséquences...Bile d'ours... la detention des animaux est ignoble, coincé dans des cages qui ne leur permettent meme pas de se retourner, sans parler du cathéter coincé dans la bile 24 sur 24 qui crée une souffrance inimaginable chez l'animalViande de chat et chien, plus l'animal souffre plus la viande est aphrodisiaque, car l'adrénaline crée par le stress est absorbée par l'homme qd il mange la viande...
Ils ont helas contribués a la disparition de certaines especes a travers leur consommation massive, je pense aux pandas, aux tigres...
La chine est reputée pour sa "cruauté" avec les animaux, avec les humains... mais comme bcp le disent ici il n'y a pas que la chine, pense aux chasse a la baleine -norvege, japon- la chasse aux phoques au canada, la maniere dont on traite les anes dans certains pays, la corrida en france et espagne... le foie gras... etc etc...
Si tu veux boycotter les pays ou l'on traite mal les animaux, tu vas nulle part, a toi de contribuer a l'amélioration de leur sort comme tu le peux...
La consommation de la viande ok, mais c'est comme le developpement durable, a nous de consommer mieux, d'acheter des produits bio, aoc, label rouge, ou mieux de la ferme d'a coté, ou la souffrance de l'animal est moindre...
Pour ceux qui disent preferer la cause humaine a la cause animale, la cause tibetaine a la cause des animaux en chine, ce n'est pas une raison pour manquer de compassion envers les animaux, surtout pour ceux qui preferent la cause tibetaine, si vous connaissez un peu ce peuple vous savez que la compassion et specialement pour les animaux a une place tres importante... nombre d'interviews du dalai lama concernent la cause animale 🙂
Je trouve ca triste de rire du sort de ces animaux, et j'espere que bcp font preuve de respect lors de leurs voyages, vivent de maniere equitable...
Je travaille dans la protection animale alors si tu veux des infos, des sites etc... n'hesite pas a me contacter kirby... djeeama@hotmail.com
Les chinois sont particulierement attirés par les produits dits "aphrodisiaques" et helas ce sont souvent des produits issus des animaux: Penis, os de tigres, malgres l'interdiction de tuer l'animal, les prix peuvent atteindre des sommets et l'on imagine les conséquences...Bile d'ours... la detention des animaux est ignoble, coincé dans des cages qui ne leur permettent meme pas de se retourner, sans parler du cathéter coincé dans la bile 24 sur 24 qui crée une souffrance inimaginable chez l'animalViande de chat et chien, plus l'animal souffre plus la viande est aphrodisiaque, car l'adrénaline crée par le stress est absorbée par l'homme qd il mange la viande...
Ils ont helas contribués a la disparition de certaines especes a travers leur consommation massive, je pense aux pandas, aux tigres...
La chine est reputée pour sa "cruauté" avec les animaux, avec les humains... mais comme bcp le disent ici il n'y a pas que la chine, pense aux chasse a la baleine -norvege, japon- la chasse aux phoques au canada, la maniere dont on traite les anes dans certains pays, la corrida en france et espagne... le foie gras... etc etc...
Si tu veux boycotter les pays ou l'on traite mal les animaux, tu vas nulle part, a toi de contribuer a l'amélioration de leur sort comme tu le peux...
La consommation de la viande ok, mais c'est comme le developpement durable, a nous de consommer mieux, d'acheter des produits bio, aoc, label rouge, ou mieux de la ferme d'a coté, ou la souffrance de l'animal est moindre...
Pour ceux qui disent preferer la cause humaine a la cause animale, la cause tibetaine a la cause des animaux en chine, ce n'est pas une raison pour manquer de compassion envers les animaux, surtout pour ceux qui preferent la cause tibetaine, si vous connaissez un peu ce peuple vous savez que la compassion et specialement pour les animaux a une place tres importante... nombre d'interviews du dalai lama concernent la cause animale 🙂
Je trouve ca triste de rire du sort de ces animaux, et j'espere que bcp font preuve de respect lors de leurs voyages, vivent de maniere equitable...
Je travaille dans la protection animale alors si tu veux des infos, des sites etc... n'hesite pas a me contacter kirby... djeeama@hotmail.com
On considere souvent les protecteurs des animaux comme des hysteriques, mysanthropes et completement perchés, mais plus tu t'enerve et moins tu es credible...
Il faut trouver un juste milieu, on empechera jamais un humain de manger de la viande ou un habitant de l'extreme nord de porter des fourrures mais essayons de limiter les souffrances...
Par contre il faut savoir se rendre compte que sans les animaux nous ne sommes rien... la nature n'est rien... alors je suis pas d'accord pour dire que la cause humaine est plus importante qu'une autre... rien ne va sans l'autre...
Le grand combat est plutot celui qu'il faut mener contre la souffrance en general...
Il faut trouver un juste milieu, on empechera jamais un humain de manger de la viande ou un habitant de l'extreme nord de porter des fourrures mais essayons de limiter les souffrances...
Par contre il faut savoir se rendre compte que sans les animaux nous ne sommes rien... la nature n'est rien... alors je suis pas d'accord pour dire que la cause humaine est plus importante qu'une autre... rien ne va sans l'autre...
Le grand combat est plutot celui qu'il faut mener contre la souffrance en general...
Oui je comprends tout à fait ta colère, moi aussi je ne supporte pas tous ça . J'aime mon chat je le traite comme mon enfant, et je suis chinoise.
Derrière tous ça y a une raison profonde. En Chine y a deux genres de gens: les riches et les pauvres. Les pauvres n'ont pas de moyen pour vivre alors il attrapes les chats sauvages pour vendre leur ferrure aux français ( Bien sûr à d'autre pays européens aussi, mais toujours pour exporter car en Chine on s'intéresse pas trop aux vêtements ou décoration en ferrures ).
Il faut une loi pour empêcher ce genre de drame mais actuellement le gouvernement chinois est trop occupé pour le ''droit de l'homme'', sous la pressions des médias étranger surtout les médias français. Tout est paradoxal, hélas... Les pauvre chats et chiens tués par les pauvre gens qui sont prêt à tout pour vivre, pour élever leurs enfant et les faire éduquer... Le massacre en Chine et la consommation d'autres pays...
Derrière tous ça y a une raison profonde. En Chine y a deux genres de gens: les riches et les pauvres. Les pauvres n'ont pas de moyen pour vivre alors il attrapes les chats sauvages pour vendre leur ferrure aux français ( Bien sûr à d'autre pays européens aussi, mais toujours pour exporter car en Chine on s'intéresse pas trop aux vêtements ou décoration en ferrures ).
Il faut une loi pour empêcher ce genre de drame mais actuellement le gouvernement chinois est trop occupé pour le ''droit de l'homme'', sous la pressions des médias étranger surtout les médias français. Tout est paradoxal, hélas... Les pauvre chats et chiens tués par les pauvre gens qui sont prêt à tout pour vivre, pour élever leurs enfant et les faire éduquer... Le massacre en Chine et la consommation d'autres pays...
Oui je comprends. J'ai vu un reportage sur les condition humaine en chine dans le milieu du travail et sur le kidnapping d'enfant car là-bas tout ce qui peut rapporter de l'argent kan on est pauvre ben voilà on le fait apparemment donc oui le vrai probleme etant bel et bien la pauvreté et l'humanité en somme le monde entier profite de la pauvreté de la chine comment donc changer ça ? deja faudrait plus que la chine soit communiste ainsi que tout les pays communiste ça ne marche pas au contraire ! Et aussi j'aimerais bien comprendre pourquoi la chine ne libere pas le tibet et pourquoi les gens ne sont pas libre d'exprimer leurs idées sous peine d'etre mis en prison ou pire... Ou sont les révoltés ? y'a pas de solution ?
ok la je sais je lance le big débat !!!lol mais c'est tres d'actualité !
ok la je sais je lance le big débat !!!lol mais c'est tres d'actualité !
Voilà une discussion passionnante, qui dure depuis longtemps. Aussi, j'avoue ne pas avoir lu tous les posts.
Je m'en excuse.
La Chine n'est pas un exemple en ce qui concerne les animaux, et bien d'autres CHOSES.... c'est certain. Mais, on n'est pas terribles non plus. Il y quelques semaines, ma fille m'a montrée une pétition sur la fin des chiens errants à la Réunion. Ils servent d'appats vivants pour la pêche au gros. Hameçon passé dans les narines. Je suis horrifiée. Une pétition de 30 millions d'amis circule à ce sujet. Parfois, je vois aussi passer des camions d'animaux, qui vont à l'abattoir. Un dernier voyage, parfois inacceptable, car la souffrance n'est pas réservée à l'être humain ! A quand, le transport de viande ? A quand l'arrêt du transport des animaux ds de telles conditions ? pas gai tout ça ! Marie.
La Chine n'est pas un exemple en ce qui concerne les animaux, et bien d'autres CHOSES.... c'est certain. Mais, on n'est pas terribles non plus. Il y quelques semaines, ma fille m'a montrée une pétition sur la fin des chiens errants à la Réunion. Ils servent d'appats vivants pour la pêche au gros. Hameçon passé dans les narines. Je suis horrifiée. Une pétition de 30 millions d'amis circule à ce sujet. Parfois, je vois aussi passer des camions d'animaux, qui vont à l'abattoir. Un dernier voyage, parfois inacceptable, car la souffrance n'est pas réservée à l'être humain ! A quand, le transport de viande ? A quand l'arrêt du transport des animaux ds de telles conditions ? pas gai tout ça ! Marie.
Marie.
Il n'est rien de plus beau que l'instant qui précède le voyage.
oui en resumé l'être humain detruit beaucoup beaucoup de chose ou qu'il soit et a meme fait avancé la fin du monde avec la pollution et donc si plus de couche d'ozone plus de vie...je ressent le besoin de me retirer de la civilisation pour un moment ce que je vais faire tous le mois de fevrier 2009 perdu dans le yukon canadien sasn magasins sans rien juste mon chien et une cabane dans les bois hiii retour aux sources
mais pour la chine et certain autres pays du genre : vous en avez pas marre de cette dictature ? c'est de l'esclavage (je parle juste des humains là) et pour le tibet il merite d'etre libre voila tout !
mais pour la chine et certain autres pays du genre : vous en avez pas marre de cette dictature ? c'est de l'esclavage (je parle juste des humains là) et pour le tibet il merite d'etre libre voila tout !
pour le tibet il merite d'etre libre voila tout !
Ca veut dire quoi être libre ? Parce que, si c'est pour que le Tibet retombe dans le système moyen-âgeux dont ils sont sortis avec le communisme c'est pas fameux... Le Tibet, on en a rien à secouer... si la France et les autres s'en mèlent c'est uniquement pour essayer de déstabiliser la Chine dans une région au fort potentiel énergétique et riche en matières premières... Un Tibet libre ce serait une Chine freinée dans sa course vers la place de numéro un mondial des superpuissances...
Je souscris à la démarche de Sarkozy et de Bush mais allez expliquer la géo-politique aux Français ou aux Américains... le soutien à la liberté des Tibétains est meilleur au niveau communication mais dans la stratégie des grandes puissances, les Tibétains ont autant d'importance que les Birmans ou les Irakiens ! Et après y en a qui hurle à la vision atlantiste de Sarkozy... qui pourra lutter face à la Chine en restant seul dans son petit coin ?
Ca veut dire quoi être libre ? Parce que, si c'est pour que le Tibet retombe dans le système moyen-âgeux dont ils sont sortis avec le communisme c'est pas fameux... Le Tibet, on en a rien à secouer... si la France et les autres s'en mèlent c'est uniquement pour essayer de déstabiliser la Chine dans une région au fort potentiel énergétique et riche en matières premières... Un Tibet libre ce serait une Chine freinée dans sa course vers la place de numéro un mondial des superpuissances...
Je souscris à la démarche de Sarkozy et de Bush mais allez expliquer la géo-politique aux Français ou aux Américains... le soutien à la liberté des Tibétains est meilleur au niveau communication mais dans la stratégie des grandes puissances, les Tibétains ont autant d'importance que les Birmans ou les Irakiens ! Et après y en a qui hurle à la vision atlantiste de Sarkozy... qui pourra lutter face à la Chine en restant seul dans son petit coin ?
De temps en temps, être loin de la " connerie " humaine fait le plus grand bien ! Bon, je n'irai pas avec mon valeureux terrier d'Ecosse jusqu'au fond du Canada... mais sûrement une expérience intéressante.
Au sujet du Tibet, il y a bien longtemps que ce peuple est opprimé, comme bien d'autres d'ailleurs.... la Birmanie, entre autre, mais finalement, bien peu de gens se préoccupent de leur sort. C'est l'économie qui mène le monde, pas les sentiments et encore moins la notion de droits de l'homme. Marie.
Marie.
Il n'est rien de plus beau que l'instant qui précède le voyage.
Voilà une manière bien étroite d'analyser le monde d'aujourd'hui !
Chacun a le droit d'avoir une opinion, mais il faut parfois savoir réfléchir avant d'écrire certaines choses.
Je vous conseille de revoir vos acquis scolaires en matière de géoplitique et de vous plonger dans des revues sérieuses... ou Ecouter fFance-culture.
Bien amicalement. Marie.
Marie.
Il n'est rien de plus beau que l'instant qui précède le voyage.
Voilà une manière bien étroite d'analyser le monde d'aujourd'hui !
Chacun a le droit d'avoir une opinion, mais il faut parfois savoir réfléchir avant d'écrire certaines choses.
Je vous conseille de revoir vos acquis scolaires en matière de géoplitique et de vous plonger dans des revues sérieuses... ou Ecouter fFance-culture.
Bien amicalement. Marie.
Puisque vous semblez de bons conseils... je vais commencer par écouter vos propos plutôt que ceux des autres (surtout ceux des journalistes et ceux des professeurs aujourd'hui en grève). Dites moi donc les acquis dont je manque cruellement et qui m'ont mené à m'exprimer sans réfléchir !
Puisque vous semblez de bons conseils... je vais commencer par écouter vos propos plutôt que ceux des autres (surtout ceux des journalistes et ceux des professeurs aujourd'hui en grève). Dites moi donc les acquis dont je manque cruellement et qui m'ont mené à m'exprimer sans réfléchir !
" Le Tibet, on en a rien à secouer ".
Vous avez le droit de ne pas vous intéresser au Tibet, mais pas de répondre ainsi à la personne qui s'est exprimé correctenement, à savoir Kirby.
Le Tibet avait peut-être des structures dignes du Moyen-Age avant l'invasion de 1950, mais le communisme n'est pas, non plus, un modèle irréprochable.
Je vous invite à lire Tibet rouge de (Robert) Ford, opérateur-radio à Lhassa en 1950. Ni journaliste, ni prof 😏.
Peut-être pourriez-vous nous éclairer sur " un Tibet libre ce serait une Chine freinée dans sa course vers la place de numéro un mondial des superpuissances ".
Dans l'immédiat, la notion de superpuissance est réservée aux seuls USA. Je vous fait grâce des caractéristiques d'une superpuissance.
Vous considérez, que parler de liberté pour un peuple, c'est une question de communication. Sûrement dans certains cas. Mais, si aujourd'hui, vous pouvez vous exprimer librement, c'est parce que des hommes se sont battus pour cela. Amicalement. Marie.
On devient de tte manière hors sujet. La discussion concernait les animaux. Désolée.
Vous considérez, que parler de liberté pour un peuple, c'est une question de communication. Sûrement dans certains cas. Mais, si aujourd'hui, vous pouvez vous exprimer librement, c'est parce que des hommes se sont battus pour cela. Amicalement. Marie.
On devient de tte manière hors sujet. La discussion concernait les animaux. Désolée.
Marie.
Il n'est rien de plus beau que l'instant qui précède le voyage.
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donc voici un site qui a fera rire ceux ki se foute de moi je suppose enfin bonne visite (ps : c'est un site qui donne des indication sur l'asie en generale concernant les animaux maltraité car j'ai pas trouvé sur spécial chine mais je cherche .... et oui desolée moi je pensais ke tous le monde avait vu les images mais je me suis trompée sorry donc j'aurai peut etre pas eu les meme reaction infantiles enfin voici les images et riez si vous le desirez mais moi ça me touche désolée mais c'est ainsi !
Merci pour les liens sur les marchés de chiens coréens, j'ai bien aimé. Je vois que tu es une connaisseuse, si tu veux, on pourrait en parler en mp. Tiens en attendant, encore une photo de marché coréen. A +
donc voici un site qui a fera rire ceux ki se foute de moi je suppose enfin bonne visite (ps : c'est un site qui donne des indication sur l'asie en generale concernant les animaux maltraité car j'ai pas trouvé sur spécial chine mais je cherche .... et oui desolée moi je pensais ke tous le monde avait vu les images mais je me suis trompée sorry donc j'aurai peut etre pas eu les meme reaction infantiles enfin voici les images et riez si vous le desirez mais moi ça me touche désolée mais c'est ainsi !
Merci pour les liens sur les marchés de chiens coréens, j'ai bien aimé. Je vois que tu es une connaisseuse, si tu veux, on pourrait en parler en mp. Tiens en attendant, encore une photo de marché coréen. A +

J'aime mon p'tit bout de tissu à fleurs.
" Le Tibet, on en a rien à secouer ".
Vous avez le droit de ne pas vous intéresser au Tibet, mais pas de répondre ainsi à la personne qui s'est exprimé correctenement, à savoir Kirby.
Le Tibet avait peut-être des structures dignes du Moyen-Age avant l'invasion de 1950, mais le communisme n'est pas, non plus, un modèle irréprochable.
Je suis tout sauf un défenseur du communisme... ce que je souhaite exprimer c'est que le soutien des Occidentaux à la cause tibétaine n'est certainement pas destinée à remettre en selle la féodalité d'avant le communisme... le "on en a rien à secouer" est surtout là pour rappeler les motivations réelles des Bush, Sarkozy, Brown, ... : essayer de déstabiliser la Chine !
Quant à la cause animale en Chine, il est un fait qu'un milliard d'individus friand de médecine traditionnelle ça fait des dégats surtout quand ladite médecine s'approvisionne dans la nature !
Le Tibet avait peut-être des structures dignes du Moyen-Age avant l'invasion de 1950, mais le communisme n'est pas, non plus, un modèle irréprochable.
Je suis tout sauf un défenseur du communisme... ce que je souhaite exprimer c'est que le soutien des Occidentaux à la cause tibétaine n'est certainement pas destinée à remettre en selle la féodalité d'avant le communisme... le "on en a rien à secouer" est surtout là pour rappeler les motivations réelles des Bush, Sarkozy, Brown, ... : essayer de déstabiliser la Chine !
Quant à la cause animale en Chine, il est un fait qu'un milliard d'individus friand de médecine traditionnelle ça fait des dégats surtout quand ladite médecine s'approvisionne dans la nature !
Je vous trouve finalement plus sympathique qu'au premier abord... ne le prenez pas mal. Voulez-vous continuer cette discussion ? en Perso... juste pr le plaisir des mots ? Marie.
Marie.
Il n'est rien de plus beau que l'instant qui précède le voyage.
j'ai envie de faire un cri de révolte là car j'en ai vraiment marre !!!!
Pour ceux qui aiment les animaux comme moi trouvez vous pas scandaleux ce que les chinois font subir aux animaux ??????? Chiens, chats, ours et tous le reste ? Moi je trouve celà inhumain et voilà pourquoi je n'irais jamais dans ce pays ! car je veux bien qu'on tue et mange des animaux pour se nourir ok mais alors la fourure et le moyen de tuer et de detenir ces animaux est inioble il n'y a pas de mot pour décrire ça c'est dégueulasse et c'est eux je trouve qu'on devrait dépecer à vif pour leur montrer !!!!
Bon là je suis vraiment en colère désolée mais je vois plein de joli message dans ce forum sur la chine mais je pense qu'on devrais aussi parler de ce coté horrible de ce pays ! C'est monstrueux !!!
le gouvernement chinois n'a deja pas beaucoup de respect pour les etres humaines, que veux tu esperer pour des animaux?
et hormis le gouvernement, la population ne voit les animaux qu'etant une source d'alimentation...
Pour ceux qui aiment les animaux comme moi trouvez vous pas scandaleux ce que les chinois font subir aux animaux ??????? Chiens, chats, ours et tous le reste ? Moi je trouve celà inhumain et voilà pourquoi je n'irais jamais dans ce pays ! car je veux bien qu'on tue et mange des animaux pour se nourir ok mais alors la fourure et le moyen de tuer et de detenir ces animaux est inioble il n'y a pas de mot pour décrire ça c'est dégueulasse et c'est eux je trouve qu'on devrait dépecer à vif pour leur montrer !!!!
Bon là je suis vraiment en colère désolée mais je vois plein de joli message dans ce forum sur la chine mais je pense qu'on devrais aussi parler de ce coté horrible de ce pays ! C'est monstrueux !!!

le gouvernement chinois n'a deja pas beaucoup de respect pour les etres humaines, que veux tu esperer pour des animaux?
et hormis le gouvernement, la population ne voit les animaux qu'etant une source d'alimentation...
oui et surtout que les autres pays pauvre ne sont pas aussi cruel donc pas d'excuse c'est pas parce qu'on est pauvre qu'on doit kidnapper des enfant ou torturer des animaux ou ke sais je encore ... le respect des etre vivant n'a pas de prix !
Quant on a que des betises a dire vaut mieux ce taire😠.C est sur dans qu elle monde vit on, mais tout le monde souffre un jour ou l autre suffit d attendre son tour, et le votre viendra, vous pouvez toujours ironiser, Les chinois en se moment souffrent, c est dur effectivement quand c est vous qui subissez, plutot qu un animal sans defense a qui on inflige de grandes souffrances, mais tout ce paie un jour, et la, en Chine et bien c est leur tour, c est triste car des enfants innocents souffrent, comme quoi respectons la nature, Animaux, et les hommes bien sur. bonne soiree.😏
ROMAFA
Bonsoir, je suis de tout coeur avec vous, et moi meme suis ecoeuree, je viens de lire un reportage ecrit par 30 millions d amis, j en suis malade, je suis comme vous, meme si je gagnais un voyage en chine je n irai pas, j aime trop les animaux et les respecte, il n y a aucun mot pour d ecrire une telle horreur, mais bon en ce moment ils subissent, c est peut etre une facon de la nature de montrer qu on ne peut pas toujours faire subir sans avoir un retour, aujourdhui c est eux qui souffrent, c est pas facile d avoir mal et de ne pouvoir rien faire, ca donne a reflechir, amicalement.
ROMAFA
mais tout ce paie un jour, et la, en Chine et bien c est leur tour
mais bon en ce moment ils subissent, c est peut etre une facon de la nature de montrer qu on ne peut pas toujours faire subir sans avoir un retour, aujourdhui c est eux qui souffrent
Voulez-vous dire que le tremblement de terre est dû au fait que les Chinois ont mangé trop de viande de chien ?
Ou suis-je victime d'une hallucination canidéenne ?🤪
mais bon en ce moment ils subissent, c est peut etre une facon de la nature de montrer qu on ne peut pas toujours faire subir sans avoir un retour, aujourdhui c est eux qui souffrent
Voulez-vous dire que le tremblement de terre est dû au fait que les Chinois ont mangé trop de viande de chien ?
Ou suis-je victime d'une hallucination canidéenne ?🤪
J'aime mon p'tit bout de tissu à fleurs.
Vous faites comment pour mettre en balance les victimes du tremblement de terre et les animaux ?
Vous n'avez pas inversé vos valeurs ?
Vous n'avez pas inversé vos valeurs ?
A man, a plan, a canal, Panama - palindrome, auteur inconnu
en ce moment ils subissent, c est peut etre une facon de la nature de montrer qu on ne peut pas toujours faire subir sans avoir un retour, aujourdhui c est eux qui souffrent, c est pas facile d avoir mal et de ne pouvoir rien faire, ca donne a reflechir, amicalement.
Ouille ! ça craint ! moi j'ai mangé plein de foie gras, et je suis allée voir des corridas : penses-tu qu'un cyclone risque de s'abattre sur ma maison en guise de châtiment divin ?
Ce qui est très dérangeant dans ton message, c'est qu'on dirait presque que tu te rejouis... Aurais tu donc moins de considération pour la soufrance humaine que pour la souffrance canine ?
Ouille ! ça craint ! moi j'ai mangé plein de foie gras, et je suis allée voir des corridas : penses-tu qu'un cyclone risque de s'abattre sur ma maison en guise de châtiment divin ?
Ce qui est très dérangeant dans ton message, c'est qu'on dirait presque que tu te rejouis... Aurais tu donc moins de considération pour la soufrance humaine que pour la souffrance canine ?
Cyrille
je suis allée voir des corridas : penses-tu qu'un cyclone risque de s'abattre sur ma maison en guise de châtiment divin ?
Probablement pas... mais si ça arrivait, j'aurais moins de peine à te voir souffrir ! On peut admettre beaucoup de choses mais la cruauté gratuite ne passe pas...
Probablement pas... mais si ça arrivait, j'aurais moins de peine à te voir souffrir ! On peut admettre beaucoup de choses mais la cruauté gratuite ne passe pas...
Ni cruel, ni gratuit... mais c'est une autre débat, et ça ne me paraît pas judicieux de l'avoir ici...
Cyrille
Ni cruel, ni gratuit...
Qu'est ce qu'il te faut alors : tuer un animal durant plusieurs dizaines de minutes... juste pour la beauté d'une tradition aussi anachronique que récente dans notre pays... il y a des traditions qui méritent que l'on conserve mais celle-là certainement pas...
Par ailleurs, ce fil étant consacré à la cruauté envers les animaux, je crois que c'est le bon endroit.
Qu'est ce qu'il te faut alors : tuer un animal durant plusieurs dizaines de minutes... juste pour la beauté d'une tradition aussi anachronique que récente dans notre pays... il y a des traditions qui méritent que l'on conserve mais celle-là certainement pas...
Par ailleurs, ce fil étant consacré à la cruauté envers les animaux, je crois que c'est le bon endroit.
Ah bon ? Qui sont ces personnes et que veux tu dire ?
il y a des traditions qui méritent que l'on conserve mais celle-là certainement pas...
Ah oui ? C'est ton avis, tu me permettras de ne pas le partager
tuer un animal durant plusieurs dizaines de minutes... juste pour la beauté d'une tradition aussi anachronique que récente dans notre pays...
Plus exactement, c'est une quizaine de minutes, et elles ne sont pas employées à tuer un animal. La mise à mort est bien plus rapide. Tu réduis la tradition taurine à une de ses pratiques... la réalité est bien plus vaste. Et sur la façon dont on traite les toros de combat, plutôt que cruauté gratuite, moi je dirais respect, admiration et courage. mais il faut connaître un peu pour savoir...
Ah oui ? C'est ton avis, tu me permettras de ne pas le partager
tuer un animal durant plusieurs dizaines de minutes... juste pour la beauté d'une tradition aussi anachronique que récente dans notre pays...
Plus exactement, c'est une quizaine de minutes, et elles ne sont pas employées à tuer un animal. La mise à mort est bien plus rapide. Tu réduis la tradition taurine à une de ses pratiques... la réalité est bien plus vaste. Et sur la façon dont on traite les toros de combat, plutôt que cruauté gratuite, moi je dirais respect, admiration et courage. mais il faut connaître un peu pour savoir...
Cyrille
mais il faut connaître un peu pour savoir...
En suivant ton raisonnement, on pourrait en déduire qu'un magistrat devrait connaître les crimes pour lesquels on juge un meurtrier pour pouvoir juger... argument aussi pauvre qu'éternel... mais afin de savoir de quoi je parle, j'ai regardé sur Canal+ une corrida... et cela m'a conforté dans mon opinion...
Sur le site Tauroentrada, il est précisé qu'une corrida peut durer jusqu'à deux heures... deux heures de souffrances et d'épuisement... si ce n'est pas une mise à mort c'est juste de la torture...
moi je dirais respect, admiration et courage
Et en guise de respect et d'admiration... on tue l'animal... pour le plaisir... dans un geste tout droit sorti de la préhistoire où l'Homme terrasse l'Animal... Ce qui est plus étonnnant c'est que toi, une femme, tu puisses sortir ce genre d'ineptie... comment peut on intellectuellement associer "respect et admiration" avec "mise à mort". J'imagine déjà la conversation : C'était un animal puissant, beau, courageux... Et qu'avez vous fait ? Je l'ai tué !
La réalité est que l'amateur de tauromachie a un niveau d'évolution à peine supérieur à celui de l'homme de Lascaux.
En suivant ton raisonnement, on pourrait en déduire qu'un magistrat devrait connaître les crimes pour lesquels on juge un meurtrier pour pouvoir juger... argument aussi pauvre qu'éternel... mais afin de savoir de quoi je parle, j'ai regardé sur Canal+ une corrida... et cela m'a conforté dans mon opinion...
Sur le site Tauroentrada, il est précisé qu'une corrida peut durer jusqu'à deux heures... deux heures de souffrances et d'épuisement... si ce n'est pas une mise à mort c'est juste de la torture...
moi je dirais respect, admiration et courage
Et en guise de respect et d'admiration... on tue l'animal... pour le plaisir... dans un geste tout droit sorti de la préhistoire où l'Homme terrasse l'Animal... Ce qui est plus étonnnant c'est que toi, une femme, tu puisses sortir ce genre d'ineptie... comment peut on intellectuellement associer "respect et admiration" avec "mise à mort". J'imagine déjà la conversation : C'était un animal puissant, beau, courageux... Et qu'avez vous fait ? Je l'ai tué !
La réalité est que l'amateur de tauromachie a un niveau d'évolution à peine supérieur à celui de l'homme de Lascaux.
" Sur le site Tauroentrada, il est précisé qu'une corrida peut durer jusqu'à deux heures... deux heures de souffrances et d'épuisement... si ce n'est pas une mise à mort c'est juste de la torture... "
... malgré tes efforts et ton message d'introduction, tu ne sais toujours pas de quoi tu parles : en général une "corrida", dont la durée peut certes atteindre deux heures ou plus, est composée de six combats ...
... cela signifie en clair qu'un combat dure environ 20 minutes (en théorie 15 minutes) ...
... malgré tes efforts et ton message d'introduction, tu ne sais toujours pas de quoi tu parles : en général une "corrida", dont la durée peut certes atteindre deux heures ou plus, est composée de six combats ...
... cela signifie en clair qu'un combat dure environ 20 minutes (en théorie 15 minutes) ...
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Who’d like to share their best and worst travel memories in a few lines? For me, it’s watching the TAJ MAHAL at sunrise and getting chased by dogs at the top of a mountain pass in GREECE on the way back from ISTANBUL. THANKS GUYS
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hello to all travelers with their eyes wide open to the desert...
I’ve always wondered what I was "doing" on this earth. And why my father, who died a few months after I was born—a former youngest French resistance fighter—joined the First Saharan Motorized Company in Atar and spent the rest of his life repairing army engines in Algeria, Mauritania, Senegal, Mali (which didn’t exist under that name back then), Morocco, and finally Algeria, where my mother was born and raised. (Believe me, it’s not "cool" being the child of a soldier in a country occupied by France, and even less so the child of a "pied-noir.") Of course, I never got an answer: the dead don’t talk, and the army doesn’t either. But here’s the thing—I had photos... So naturally, one day I hit the road. I wanted to see, to understand. It’s thanks to VF that I was able to do a little research on crossing the Morocco-Mauritania border, and I’m grateful to its members, just as I’m grateful to all those who welcomed me on the road for 14 years. For the past few weeks, I’ve been wondering if I should talk about this or not... It turns out the Mauritanians changed my life by asking for my help... And that started as early as February 2012... (Did I owe them something? No answer to that question.) Ah, the irony—they saw me coming. But when you’re handed sick children and begged to do something, what would you have done? I’d worked in a hospital, so I knew a bit about the rules to follow. I didn’t hesitate. And well, over all these years, I met doctors, surgeons, and together we organized care, evacuations of children, training for surgeons—even trying to stop children from having to travel outside their country. It was never easy. I’d like to thank those who supported us, as well as *La Chaîne de l’Espoir*, *La Fondation Face au Monde*, and everyone who built bridges between our two countries. Unfortunately, despite the constant efforts of Mauritanian doctors and surgeons, some children couldn’t be helped in time. Today, I want to talk about four siblings—orphans of their mother—suffering from congenital glaucoma causing irreversible blindness. Their case was entrusted to me in 2020, just weeks before the big lockdown. We couldn’t do anything for them then, but when their father asked me for a gift, I rushed to my computer and wrote a story. Through a tale, the children take a great journey, explore their country, and fulfill a dream. I never thought this book would be published—it was, in 2023. This book pays tribute to Mauritania. It’s a message for those who know nothing about the hardships of life there, carrying both the harshness and beauty of an immense desert where you can travel by 4x4, bike, on foot, or by camel in complete safety. It bears witness to the kindness of Mauritanians toward travelers. As a woman traveling alone in my vehicle—a now-rusted old Mercedes that no longer runs—I had the most beautiful encounters of my life there (I’ve seen other parts of the world...). The blind children of Choum, Atar, Nouadhibou, and Nouakchott will forever be in my heart. Volunteer readers transcribed the book into a free audio version for the visually impaired. It’s available in sound libraries in France, the *Fondation Valentin Haüy*, and the Swiss Romande library. I made my last trip to Mauritania in my old 4x4 to distribute the book everywhere, especially to its heroes and the school for the visually impaired in Nouakchott. After that, I thought it was time to close the chapter because I no longer have the means or the strength to travel. My publishers chose this title for it: *The Blue Eyes of the Desert*. This publication helped a mission of Swiss volunteer ophthalmologists come to operate on glaucomas in Mauritania. I’m thrilled because they come back every year! This adventure is ending, yes—everything must come to an end—but ultimately, it was born here, on the VF site!! So yes, I had to say it: THANK YOU!!!!!
I’ve always wondered what I was "doing" on this earth. And why my father, who died a few months after I was born—a former youngest French resistance fighter—joined the First Saharan Motorized Company in Atar and spent the rest of his life repairing army engines in Algeria, Mauritania, Senegal, Mali (which didn’t exist under that name back then), Morocco, and finally Algeria, where my mother was born and raised. (Believe me, it’s not "cool" being the child of a soldier in a country occupied by France, and even less so the child of a "pied-noir.") Of course, I never got an answer: the dead don’t talk, and the army doesn’t either. But here’s the thing—I had photos... So naturally, one day I hit the road. I wanted to see, to understand. It’s thanks to VF that I was able to do a little research on crossing the Morocco-Mauritania border, and I’m grateful to its members, just as I’m grateful to all those who welcomed me on the road for 14 years. For the past few weeks, I’ve been wondering if I should talk about this or not... It turns out the Mauritanians changed my life by asking for my help... And that started as early as February 2012... (Did I owe them something? No answer to that question.) Ah, the irony—they saw me coming. But when you’re handed sick children and begged to do something, what would you have done? I’d worked in a hospital, so I knew a bit about the rules to follow. I didn’t hesitate. And well, over all these years, I met doctors, surgeons, and together we organized care, evacuations of children, training for surgeons—even trying to stop children from having to travel outside their country. It was never easy. I’d like to thank those who supported us, as well as *La Chaîne de l’Espoir*, *La Fondation Face au Monde*, and everyone who built bridges between our two countries. Unfortunately, despite the constant efforts of Mauritanian doctors and surgeons, some children couldn’t be helped in time. Today, I want to talk about four siblings—orphans of their mother—suffering from congenital glaucoma causing irreversible blindness. Their case was entrusted to me in 2020, just weeks before the big lockdown. We couldn’t do anything for them then, but when their father asked me for a gift, I rushed to my computer and wrote a story. Through a tale, the children take a great journey, explore their country, and fulfill a dream. I never thought this book would be published—it was, in 2023. This book pays tribute to Mauritania. It’s a message for those who know nothing about the hardships of life there, carrying both the harshness and beauty of an immense desert where you can travel by 4x4, bike, on foot, or by camel in complete safety. It bears witness to the kindness of Mauritanians toward travelers. As a woman traveling alone in my vehicle—a now-rusted old Mercedes that no longer runs—I had the most beautiful encounters of my life there (I’ve seen other parts of the world...). The blind children of Choum, Atar, Nouadhibou, and Nouakchott will forever be in my heart. Volunteer readers transcribed the book into a free audio version for the visually impaired. It’s available in sound libraries in France, the *Fondation Valentin Haüy*, and the Swiss Romande library. I made my last trip to Mauritania in my old 4x4 to distribute the book everywhere, especially to its heroes and the school for the visually impaired in Nouakchott. After that, I thought it was time to close the chapter because I no longer have the means or the strength to travel. My publishers chose this title for it: *The Blue Eyes of the Desert*. This publication helped a mission of Swiss volunteer ophthalmologists come to operate on glaucomas in Mauritania. I’m thrilled because they come back every year! This adventure is ending, yes—everything must come to an end—but ultimately, it was born here, on the VF site!! So yes, I had to say it: THANK YOU!!!!!
Hi everyone,
I’m Loulou, a French expat who’s been living in Southeast Asia for about fifteen years, currently in Phnom Penh, Cambodia. A passionate walker at heart, I’ve trekked in Nepal (Thorung La, Mardi Himal), India, Vietnam, and I’m still planning new hikes (Char Dham, Langtang, Annapurna).
I’ve just published my first travel journal, recounting three months of walking and encounters across India. A portion of the sales goes to an educational center I support in Kep, for children whose parents work in the salt marshes.
I’m also working on a second book about Nepal with a musician friend, focusing on the Mardi Himal trek—two independent perspectives on the same journey.
Happy to swap stories with you about the Himalayas, India, Southeast Asia, or just the urge to hit the road and walk far from home.
Safe travels,
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Hi! It was totally by chance that I stumbled upon VoyageForum (an ad online and a story lol), and I’ve been reading some really old posts from 2011 about Thai massage schools—discussions on how to get by, accommodation, prices, etc. It reminded me of my own experience: I kept things simple by staying with a local family during my entire trip. I only shared all the expenses with them, which, I’ll admit, was super cheap… and I often traveled with them, which naturally opened a lot of doors for me. To start, at the school in Salaya, my Thai friend immediately connected me with Teacher Phong (the school’s mentor and teacher of teachers, a former monk). I was supposed to join a group session with other foreigners, but for some reason I don’t know, I got two days of private lessons for free with this expert… incredible! And on top of that, he loved France! It was an amazing experience. I "discovered" massage by chance—the Thai family just told me: "Try it, you’ll see!" (I’d had a pretty intense massage in the capital before 😅… but the next day, I felt unbelievably great!))
Every morning, I’d take a taxi (chosen by the Thai family at prices that beat all the competition) to this school—I’ve forgotten the name of the little village now… right in the heart of the countryside. Then, in the evenings, I’d keep practicing massage on all the family members… and they’d teach me Thai at the same time!))
Since then, I’ve practiced a bit, with lots of positive feedback. Following Teacher Phong’s advice—he thought my pressure was deep, firm, and precise—he strongly encouraged me to take this seriously.
I love Thailand so much. It’s a whole different way of living… and it’s a real blessing, even if I couldn’t live there full-time. Anyway, that was an unforgettable memory, and sometimes the Thai family and I still say hi—from 2011, 2013… right up to today!
Take care, everyone! !
Every morning, I’d take a taxi (chosen by the Thai family at prices that beat all the competition) to this school—I’ve forgotten the name of the little village now… right in the heart of the countryside. Then, in the evenings, I’d keep practicing massage on all the family members… and they’d teach me Thai at the same time!))
Since then, I’ve practiced a bit, with lots of positive feedback. Following Teacher Phong’s advice—he thought my pressure was deep, firm, and precise—he strongly encouraged me to take this seriously.
I love Thailand so much. It’s a whole different way of living… and it’s a real blessing, even if I couldn’t live there full-time. Anyway, that was an unforgettable memory, and sometimes the Thai family and I still say hi—from 2011, 2013… right up to today!
Take care, everyone! !
"It seems to me that poverty would be less painful in the sun" wrote Aznavour...
Not sure...😕 Who can prove that people in hot countries are happier than others? What do you think?
Is it better to live in Montpellier than in Lille? Are the Pygmies happier than the Inuit? Are Canadians less happy than the people of Louisiana? Are there more French expats in hot countries?
And your travels? Do you choose your destinations based on the climate? Do you rejoice when a bit of sunshine appears?
Not sure...😕 Who can prove that people in hot countries are happier than others? What do you think?
Is it better to live in Montpellier than in Lille? Are the Pygmies happier than the Inuit? Are Canadians less happy than the people of Louisiana? Are there more French expats in hot countries?
And your travels? Do you choose your destinations based on the climate? Do you rejoice when a bit of sunshine appears?
Hi everyone, just this once I’m not posting for a travel story, but to share a thought for Venezuela.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed. Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed. Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
hi there
I’d like to invite you to discover my coastal province in central Vietnam: Quang Ngai.
This year, my province has really improved its infrastructure—mountains, countryside, and sea are all authentic here.
No harassers or thieves, and no Russians either.
A local lunch costs around 1 €.
A *** hotel room is about 25 €, and you can find hotels right on My Khe Beach.
We have a specialty: *banh xeo*—10 crepes for just 1.5 €.
You can rent motorbikes to explore the province and maybe visit the many ethnic minorities.
I live here—I’m not selling anything, but I can help if needed (my father-in-law is a traditional Vietnamese doctor and he’s very skilled).
We're planning to spend a month in Vietnam. Is hiring a guide helpful?
Hi everyone! 😉
I’m Typhaine, 35 years old. Five years ago, I left France for a solo round-the-world trip—no planes, just a van, hitchhiking, cycling, and even a canoe in the Amazon! Today, I work as a naturalist guide in Argentine Patagonia.
Wherever I go, my compass stays the same: observing and photographing wildlife, which I deeply admire and respect.
My project: I’d love to share this experience through a sustainable, authentic, and immersive nature tourism initiative. But to build something meaningful, I need to understand how other nature enthusiasts experience their own adventures.
If you:
Are over 20 years old
Have a true passion for Nature
Have already taken at least one trip lasting more than 3 nights (in your country or abroad) in your life
Then... would you have 5 to 7 minutes to help me by filling out this questionnaire? 🙂 »» https://forms.gle/y74ckkvN9TjrougLA
Promise: I’m not selling anything, this isn’t marketing. Your answers are 100% anonymous and will only help me shape this wild project. A huge thank you to everyone for your help and kindness! Looking forward to chatting in this thread 😛
(Dear admins, this is purely a collaborative effort for my project study, with no commercial purpose. Thank you so much for your support!)
Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
My project: I’d love to share this experience through a sustainable, authentic, and immersive nature tourism initiative. But to build something meaningful, I need to understand how other nature enthusiasts experience their own adventures.
If you:
Are over 20 years old
Have a true passion for Nature
Have already taken at least one trip lasting more than 3 nights (in your country or abroad) in your life
Then... would you have 5 to 7 minutes to help me by filling out this questionnaire? 🙂 »» https://forms.gle/y74ckkvN9TjrougLA
Promise: I’m not selling anything, this isn’t marketing. Your answers are 100% anonymous and will only help me shape this wild project. A huge thank you to everyone for your help and kindness! Looking forward to chatting in this thread 😛
(Dear admins, this is purely a collaborative effort for my project study, with no commercial purpose. Thank you so much for your support!)
Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
Hello everyone,
It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

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It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

...
I spent 3 weeks in Bali last summer (+ 3 nights on Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java). So I wanted to see what ChatGPT could suggest for comparison...
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Hello everyone,
I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
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Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

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I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
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.Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

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I’ve kept the habit of blowing my nose in the sink and then washing my hands—a custom I picked up in India. Sometimes, non-travelers are shocked when they catch me in the act... 🤪
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
After taking a little trip around the world, I came back a few months ago with an idea in mind.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
As part of my Master’s thesis, I’m currently conducting a public survey on a topic that concerns all of us when planning a trip: artificial intelligence and the role of human contact in travel planning.
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
While browsing the forum to gather info for my upcoming trip to Thailand, I often see the terms "traveler," "great traveler," and also "tourist"—so what’s the nuance for you?
I've traveled quite a bit in Vietnam over the past few years—from the southern delta to bustling cities and even some small islands—but what really sticks with me is the north, the high mountains.
Up there, there's something different—maybe slower, more raw. The morning markets with ethnic groups, women in traditional clothes, the colors...
The stilt houses, kids following you and laughing for no reason, the terraced rice fields—it almost feels unreal at times, so vast and quiet, yet so human and simple.
You often hear that Sapa has become too touristy, and that's partly true, especially in the center. But as soon as you move a little farther away, everything changes quickly. The landscapes open up, encounters feel more natural, and you rediscover something truly authentic.
I think it's that contrast that struck me—the difference between what you imagine before going and what you actually discover when you take the time.
And you—what memory do you hold onto from Vietnam? A particular place that touched you more than others?
Hello,
We’re finalizing the plans for our upcoming trip to China in May 2025. The second-to-last stop will be in Zhangjiajie, where we’ve planned to stay for 2 full days before heading to Shanghai.
We’re traveling solo using local transport and have arranged to stay in the city of Zhangjiajie.
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
Hello 🙂
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
Hi everyone, here’s our itinerary. Arriving on the evening of December 13th. Departing on January 7th.
Thanks in advance for your tips and valuable feedback.
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Really disappointed with Costa Rica! Pura vida? The scam of the century!
(Costa Rica pure emptiness).
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
Hello,
Since the war between Russia and Ukraine, nothing is simple anymore for traveling to Belarus due to sanctions.
No more direct flights from the EU to Minsk.
Driving is a huge hassle, especially crossing through Poland at the only open border in Brest—you can wait 2, 3, or even 4 days just to get through by car.
The least painful driving option is to come via Lithuania and cross at the only open border, with a minimum wait time of 8 hours, sometimes up to 20 hours or more!!
Controls are very strict and annoying on both the Lithuanian and Belarusian sides. Avoid bringing alcohol, food, or cigarettes—everything will end up in the trash, especially when leaving Belarus for Vilnius, where the Lithuanians are tough, even with EU citizens.
The joy I once knew when visiting my wife in Minsk is sadly over—it’s now a real ordeal.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
Hi everyone!
I’m putting together our travel itinerary for Veneto at the end of April. And the more I look and research potential sites to visit, the more I find!
We’ll only be there for a week—my family and I—including 3 days in Venice. So we have to make some choices...
I plan to rent a car when we arrive in Venice and head straight to Bergamo, which would be our first stop. We’d leave the car at the airport when we return to Venice so we can explore the city at our leisure.
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
Now that the curtain has fallen on the past year, it’s time to see what’s happening around here.
It seems pretty quiet, but I’ll read more in detail later.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
I’ve visited the U.S. four times myself, including two long road trips. The last one was just this past August...
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
Hi there,
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
Hello everyone,
Controversial topic? Not necessarily—maybe just a reflection on a world to come.
I spent the last 15 days of August on a cruise in Greenland, from Kangerlussuaq to Tasiilaq.
I was utterly amazed by this unique world of rock and ice, the little houses in every color, a simple life that’s also complicated by isolation and climate, among other things...
I carry in my heart the kindness of the people I met, the raw and gentle majesty of the icebergs, the colors of the sky...
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,

Hello to all East Africa lovers and nature enthusiasts in general,
While I prepare to share a recap of our latest trip/safari in Kenya soon, I’d like to wish you all a peaceful transition between 2025 and 2026.
Warm regards,
Puma2A.





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We’re a couple aged 58 and 63. We’ve just returned from a wonderful trip to South India in Tamil Nadu and a few days in Kerala. We traveled with a local French-speaking guide and his friend, the driver. They both live in Pondicherry. We spent 3 weeks with them in the most authentic way!
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like! M-Claire and Jean
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like! M-Claire and Jean
This catchy and somewhat mysterious title comes from several questions I’ve been asking myself.
VF has been back open for a reasonable number of weeks and months now. The number of visitors overall matches past averages, but the number of members online in the last 24 hours seems relatively lower than what we used to see.
Yet, to my surprise, I’m seeing fewer travel journals, way fewer messages, and way fewer questions. I don’t see many new registered users online, and I notice a number of members who are logged in but either aren’t participating or have stopped participating.
Something’s not adding up for me because, in my opinion, VF is still appealing, and I don’t see which other sites could really compete.
Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid? Does it just take more time for some people to discover the site or learn that it’s active again? Do people now prefer quick consumption on sites like FB or others I’m not familiar with? Where have the site’s old-timers gone, and what are they doing with their time now? What’s really going on here?
VF has been back open for a reasonable number of weeks and months now. The number of visitors overall matches past averages, but the number of members online in the last 24 hours seems relatively lower than what we used to see.
Yet, to my surprise, I’m seeing fewer travel journals, way fewer messages, and way fewer questions. I don’t see many new registered users online, and I notice a number of members who are logged in but either aren’t participating or have stopped participating.
Something’s not adding up for me because, in my opinion, VF is still appealing, and I don’t see which other sites could really compete.
Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid? Does it just take more time for some people to discover the site or learn that it’s active again? Do people now prefer quick consumption on sites like FB or others I’m not familiar with? Where have the site’s old-timers gone, and what are they doing with their time now? What’s really going on here?