A Magnificent Loop in the Southern Rainbow Nation
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SI Simc4 Veteran ·
Hi Isabelle,

Thanks for this beautifully detailed travel journal... I wasn’t familiar with this part of the country (except for Cape Town), and your story has made me want to explore it in the coming years. I’ll definitely be back to ask you some questions when I’m planning this future trip...😎😎😎 But before that, I’ll see you soon on the roads of Namibia this summer (it’ll be here before we know it🙂) Maybe we’ll run into each other? If not, we can swap travel journals and experiences...😉 See you soon,

Jean Luc
RO Rouquine38 Globetrotter ·
Sure, of course, don't hesitate if I can help you out 🙂. For Namibia, we’ll actually have the chance to meet up for 2 weeks 😎. We’ll see about the itineraries 😉.
"Voyager est un triple plaisir : l'attente, l'éblouissement et le souvenir." Ilka Chase
MA Max68 Globetrotter ·
Hello Isabelle,

It was a pleasure to follow your post—great writing and beautiful photos... even if bad lighting means you can’t expect miracles 🙂.

I don’t know the AFS yet; I usually stick to neighboring countries. But someday, I’ll definitely give in to the call of the south 😉.

Thanks again, and well done 🙂
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RO Rouquine38 Globetrotter ·
Thanks for following along in South Africa—I can only encourage you to go check it out! 😊 But after all the wide-open spaces you’ve already explored, you might find South Africa a bit Americanized. 😄

While browsing posts and travel journals about Namibia, I came across your post from a few years back where you were planning your first trip to Southern Africa. 😮 It made me smile because it was your first time camping on the roof of a car, and you were wondering if you’d manage to pull it off. 😂

It gave me a lot of hope because this summer will be our first camping trip, and I’ll admit I’m a little nervous. 😊

Looking forward to reading about your return from the red dunes of Tadrart! 😊
"Voyager est un triple plaisir : l'attente, l'éblouissement et le souvenir." Ilka Chase
MA Max68 Globetrotter ·
Hello Isabelle,

It was a first to go camping on the roof of a car, and you were wondering if you’d manage to secure it

yeah, and I was also wondering if 2 days in Etosha wouldn’t be too long!!!! ... So many memories ... 😉

Anyway, you know the answer ... hee hee hee.

The only risk is the cold—it’s not a certainty, but it’s better to be prepared.
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MA Marati Globetrotter ·
Hi JF,

The only risk is the cold—it’s not a certainty, but it’s better to be prepared.

What temperatures have you experienced, and how low can they drop at night without issue? Are the rooftop tents suitable for the cold? For next summer, since we’re traveling with five people, I was thinking of getting a "clamshell" rooftop tent for the two girls and a ground tent for the three boys... but this cold issue is really bugging me. Thanks!
RJ Rjulie95 Globetrotter ·
it can easily freeze at night—back in 2017 in KTP, temperatures dropped to -2°C in the early morning.

Depending on where you're heading, it can get really cold, so make sure to pack a good sleeping bag.
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.

"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela

https://www.en-voyages.fr
MA Marati Globetrotter ·
Hi Régis, Thanks. Ouch, ouch. I just got back from a camping trip with temperatures dropping to -2°, -3°. It was more than borderline. Okay, it's true we had two -5° sleeping bags (comfort temperature) and two others rated for -15°. The two youngest had the -15° ones and slept really well. Maxime, with his "-5°" bag, slept like a bear, but I was waking up every time at 4 AM despite two layers on the bottom and four on top, plus a big wool hat covering up to my nose... We’ll need to invest in some quality -15° sleeping bags because bad nights due to the cold kind of ruin the camping fun. On the other hand, "canvas" tents that take 10 minutes to fold up when it’s freezing aren’t great, especially if there are two of them! This reinforces my idea of getting a pop-up tent that folds in 1 minute, and our MSR tent that packs up in 4 minutes flat.
RJ Rjulie95 Globetrotter ·
This reinforces my idea of a pop-up tent that sets up in 1 minute

What’s a pop-up tent?
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.

"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela

https://www.en-voyages.fr
AT Atila Globetrotter ·
The bush campers I usually rent.
AT Atila Globetrotter ·
you’ll find South Africa a bit Americanized

It depends where you go...
RO Rouquine38 Globetrotter ·
you’ll find South Africa a bit Americanized

It depends where you go...

Yeah, of course 😂 Just bouncing off their first message where they said it felt like San Francisco 😆
"Voyager est un triple plaisir : l'attente, l'éblouissement et le souvenir." Ilka Chase
MA Max68 Globetrotter ·
Hi Guillaume,

At its coldest ... 3/4°C around 5 AM 😮

Normally, it's in southern Namibia where it gets the coldest (Sesriem), but for us, it was in Botswana at Sakhawe.

It's true that a rooftop tent doesn’t provide much insulation. 😮

You have to remember that the cold in a rooftop tent comes through the floor, so even with 3 blankets, you can still feel cold. After 2 nights, we found a solution: we unfolded emergency blankets under the mattresses, and it was immediately better. 😉
https://apprentisvoyageurs.com
RO Rouquine38 Globetrotter ·
Hey Régis, Thanks. Ouch, ouch. I just got back from a camping trip where temperatures dropped to -2°, -3°. It was more than borderline. Okay, true, we had two -5° sleeping bags for comfort temperature, and two others rated for -15°. The two youngest had the -15° ones and slept really well. Maxime, with his "-5," slept like a bear, but I was waking up every time at 4 a.m. despite two layers on the bottom and four on top, plus a thick wool hat covering up to my nose... We’ll need to invest in some quality -15° sleeping bags because bad nights due to the cold really ruin the camping fun. On the other hand, canvas tents that take 10 minutes to fold up when it’s freezing aren’t great, especially if there are two of them! This just reinforces my idea of getting a pop-up tent that folds in 1 minute, and our MSR tent that packs up in 4 minutes flat.

So, this cold issue is really bugging me too 😩 I already have to deal with sleeping on the roof, unreliable showers, and now the cold 🥶 knowing my lower limit is 25°C—this is gonna be tough 😅 Okay, we were planning to invest in sleeping bags. I’ve started looking at warm and lightweight options, but I’m a bit lost since I’ve never camped before—it’s not easy. So, could you give me the reference for a good, warm sleeping bag that’s not too bulky? That’d be awesome 😊
"Voyager est un triple plaisir : l'attente, l'éblouissement et le souvenir." Ilka Chase
MA Max68 Globetrotter ·
me, waking up every time at 4 AM despite 2 layers on the bottom and 4 layers on top, plus a big wool hat covering up to my nose.

Unfortunately, dressing inside a sleeping bag isn’t effective—in fact, it’s the opposite. You should stay lightly dressed and keep the sleeping bag as close to your body as possible. If you want to add layers, do it on top of (or under) the sleeping bag.

Covering your head is essential. Another effective trick is to create a kind of "collar" at the sleeping bag’s opening (using clothes) to "seal" the air volume inside as much as possible. The coldest time is indeed just before sunrise.

Gonna have to invest in other -15°C-rated sleeping bags,

it’s never a waste 🙂.

Just remember not to leave them in their compression sacks at home. 😉
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AT Atila Globetrotter ·
Bring reliable sleeping bags and share a tent for two. Human warmth isn’t a myth...
MA Max68 Globetrotter ·
I have this one. It's super comfortable and quite roomy. That's why I chose it—I don't like feeling too squeezed in a sleeping bag. I've never been cold in it... even at 0°C (or lower) in the Algerian desert last week 😉
https://apprentisvoyageurs.com
RO Rouquine38 Globetrotter ·
Silly question! Is it less cold sleeping in the car?
"Voyager est un triple plaisir : l'attente, l'éblouissement et le souvenir." Ilka Chase
RO Rouquine38 Globetrotter ·
Bring reliable sleeping bags and sleep two to a tent. Body heat isn’t a myth...

Yeah, we’d already thought about that a lot 😊
"Voyager est un triple plaisir : l'attente, l'éblouissement et le souvenir." Ilka Chase
AT Atila Globetrotter ·
Covering your head is essential

The night beanie, the adventurer's best friend in Australia?
RO Rouquine38 Globetrotter ·
I have this one. It’s super comfortable and quite roomy. That’s why I chose it—I don’t like feeling too squeezed in a sleeping bag. I’ve never been cold in it... even at 0°C (or lower) in the Algerian desert last week 😉

Okay, thanks—but isn’t 1.7 kg a bit heavy? You weren’t cold in it, but what’s your lower limit? Because I think my thermostat’s broken—I’m always cold 😅
"Voyager est un triple plaisir : l'attente, l'éblouissement et le souvenir." Ilka Chase
RJ Rjulie95 Globetrotter ·
The bushcampers I usually rent.

Oh yeah, the rigid structure, but that’s not a tent! 😛
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.

"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela

https://www.en-voyages.fr
AT Atila Globetrotter ·
What’s your itinerary like?

It only really gets cold at night in desert areas. Elsewhere in winter, I’ve never had less than eleven degrees under the tent, and the sleeping bags and blankets provided by the rental companies have always been enough for me—even though I’m someone who gets cold easily.
AT Atila Globetrotter ·
The luxury tent...😛
RJ Rjulie95 Globetrotter ·
I have a similar one tested in Nepal—great inside without layering up, but as soon as you step outside... 😛
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.

"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela

https://www.en-voyages.fr
MA Marati Globetrotter ·
What’s a clamshell tent?

I was actually referring to one of Agnès’s posts where she broke down the pros and cons of each type of 4x4 with a rooftop tent, but I’d need to dig it up again...
MA Marati Globetrotter ·
Thanks JF,

You have to remember that the cold in a rooftop tent comes through the floor, so even with 3 blankets, you can still get cold. After 2 nights, we found a solution: we unfolded emergency blankets under the mattresses, and it was immediately better. 😉

The worst part is that we had aluminum emergency blankets, but I didn’t even think to take them out to put under the mattress 🤪!

Unfortunately, dressing inside a sleeping bag isn’t effective—in fact, it’s the opposite. You should stay lightly clothed and keep the sleeping bag as close to your body as possible. If you want to add layers, do it on top of (or under) the sleeping bag.

I knew that (one of the few memories from the army, where they say you should sleep naked in a sleeping bag!!), but it’s really hard to put into practice. As the cold increased, I kept adding layers instead of doing the opposite... 🤪

Another effective trick is to create a kind of "collar" at the opening of the sleeping bag (with clothes) to "seal" the air volume inside as much as possible.

Thanks for the tip 🙂
MA Marati Globetrotter ·
Silly question! Is it less cold if we sleep in the car?

Tested out of necessity in Death Valley after a sandstorm made it impossible to pitch the tent. I had no preconceptions before trying it and wanted to test it one day. But the experiment wasn’t conclusive. The car doesn’t protect you from the cold, and on top of that, it becomes damp cold by early morning because a car doesn’t ventilate like a tent does.
RO Rouquine38 Globetrotter ·
What’s your itinerary?

It can only really get cold at night in desert areas. Everywhere else in winter, I’ve never had less than eleven degrees under the tent, and the sleeping bags and blankets provided by the rental companies have always been enough for me—even though I’m also someone who gets cold easily.

Okay, so if you get cold easily too and you’re going back, it should work out 😊 Our itinerary will be pretty classic for our first trip to Namibia: Kalahari (just one night at Anib Lodge), NamibRand, Sesriem, Rostock Ritz, Swakopmund, Brandberg, Grootberg, Opuwo, Epupa, Etosha (5 nights in different camps), and Otjiwarongo before heading back to Windhoek.
"Voyager est un triple plaisir : l'attente, l'éblouissement et le souvenir." Ilka Chase
RO Rouquine38 Globetrotter ·
Silly question! What if we sleep in the car—is it less cold?

Tested out of necessity in Death Valley after a sandstorm made it impossible to set up the tent. I had no preconceptions before trying it and had wanted to test it someday. But the experiment wasn’t conclusive. The car doesn’t protect you from the cold, and on top of that, it turns into a damp cold by early morning because a car doesn’t ventilate like a tent does.

Okay, thanks for the info—bad idea 😅
"Voyager est un triple plaisir : l'attente, l'éblouissement et le souvenir." Ilka Chase
MA Marati Globetrotter ·
I’m also reassured about the temperature questions—it should only be a concern in Sesriem and Namibrand. 🙂 Another silly question: I’m planning almost the same route as Isabelle, but swapping the 2 nights in Epupa for 2 nights in Purros. Is that crazy in that area, considering we’ll have a ground tent, with elephants or other roaming animals around?
MA Max68 Globetrotter ·
No problem for Purros. Ask for spot 6, it's the most beautiful.

Don’t worry about the elephants—you won’t hear them coming 😉

It’ll be less cold there than in Sesriem.

With the cold, for me, the main issue isn’t the night itself, but the evening and morning 😮. When you’re cold, you’re in your sleeping bag by 8 PM, and the longer you wait, the colder you get... and I won’t even mention the morning when you have to leave your sleeping bag 😉
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MA Marati Globetrotter ·
Etosha (5 nights in different camps)

That’s a lot of nights 😏! It seems like after your various trips to Southern Africa, you’re on the hunt for big cats!! It almost looks like you sacrificed some "must-sees" along the way (Spitzkoppe, Twyfelfontein) just to maximize your chances of finally spotting them in good conditions... 😛
MA Max68 Globetrotter ·
Did you read what I wrote to Guillaume... don’t forget the emergency blanket. Plus, it doesn’t take up any space 😉
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MA Max68 Globetrotter ·
Hello Agnes,

Taking reliable sleeping bags and sleeping two in one

when it’s really cold isn’t ideal, because they’re rectangular and you’ve got too much air around your feet... that’s why extreme-cold sleeping bags are sarcophagus-shaped.

Yeah, a nightcap is your best friend in cold weather ;)
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RO Rouquine38 Globetrotter ·
Etosha (5 nights in different camps)

That’s a lot of nights 😏! You’d think after all your trips to southern Africa, you’re on the hunt for big cats!! It almost seems like you sacrificed some "must-sees" along the way (Spitzkoppe, Twyfelfontein) just to maximize your chances of finally seeing them in good conditions... 😛

You got it 😄
"Voyager est un triple plaisir : l'attente, l'éblouissement et le souvenir." Ilka Chase
RO Rouquine38 Globetrotter ·
Did you read what I wrote to Guillaume... remember the emergency blanket. Plus, it doesn’t take up any space ;)

Yep, got it! 😊
"Voyager est un triple plaisir : l'attente, l'éblouissement et le souvenir." Ilka Chase
AT Atila Globetrotter ·
The desert part—I only camp there during the southern summer...😇

In winter, I’ve always slept indoors in southern Namibia or the desert part of South Africa.

It was okay in the Richtersveld cabins, which weren’t much better insulated than a tent at Tatasberg, but it was freezing in Mokala.🤪

Jeff’s idea of using an emergency blanket seems like a good weight/bulk/benefit trade-off.

You’re only sleeping a few nights in the south, and at the start of your trip anyway. Check the weather just before you leave and decide then if you need a heavy-duty sleeping bag. Like here, temperatures can vary a lot from one week to the next, and from one winter to the next.
AT Atila Globetrotter ·
With the cold, for me, the main problem isn't the night, but the evening and the morning 😮. When you're cold, you're in your sleeping bag by 8 PM, and the longer you wait, the colder you get... and I won't even mention the morning when you have to get out of your sleeping bag 😉

Did you get that cold???😮 (Outside of the desert)

True, mornings are the hardest. I’ve never stepped outside before the sun came up, either.

I think we were in T-shirts at Fish River Canyon at sunset, and we had breakfast outside (08:30, not 06:00...).

On the other hand, at Mokala, no desire to linger outside in the morning or evening. Even during the day, it didn’t get above 17°C...
MA Marati Globetrotter ·
No problem for Purros. Ask for spot 6, it's the most beautiful.

Thanks!

Don’t worry about the elephants—you won’t hear them coming ;)

You’re actually making me nervous now... From what I recall, there have been one or more tourists killed in recent years, crushed by elephants, or at least badly frightened. If the accidents happened because tourists got too close during the day, thinking they were in a zoo, that’s one thing. My main concern is about safety in the ground tent. If we place it right next to the car, is there a risk of elephants approaching at night, passing by—or even over it—potentially crushing us? Should we keep food away, like with bears (the fridge in the 4x4 is an issue)? With five of us, a ground tent is the only option. If there’s a real risk, I’d rather skip this stop—it’s just a vacation, after all...
AT Atila Globetrotter ·
In a sarcophagus, you don’t get the warmth of the other person.

There’s also the scalding hot shower just before bed that helps store up heat.

Putting sleeping bags near the fire helps too...

Why not a hot water bottle?

Personally, it’s more the nighttime urge that bothers me. Especially since your brain only triggers it when you’re on the roof. When you sleep indoors, nothing.
RJ Rjulie95 Globetrotter ·
Do we need to keep food away, like with bears (fridge issue in the 4x4)? With 5 people, no choice but a ground tent. If there’s a real risk, I’d rather skip this stop—it’s just a vacation after all...

Avoid citrus fruits—they love them—and there’s no point hiding it; they’ll sniff it out.
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.

"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela

https://www.en-voyages.fr
MA Max68 Globetrotter ·
Personally, it's more the nighttime urge that bothers me.

A friend told me she just needed to take a bottle of diluted water and prepare everything for a possible nighttime need so it wouldn’t happen 😉.

For the sleeping bag, the idea is to have as little air as possible inside... up to you to figure out how to do it... 😏
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RO Rouquine38 Globetrotter ·
Thanks to everyone for these tips and exchanges—I’m jotting them down carefully! 🙂

I’m currently taking a closer look at our itinerary, which we finalized pretty quickly at the end of July , and I’m realizing I might not have studied it properly 🙁.

Okay, I’ll probably have a lot of questions to ask and will likely start a new post.

Guillaume, I see you’re already way more on top of things than I am, even though your trip is for next summer .
"Voyager est un triple plaisir : l'attente, l'éblouissement et le souvenir." Ilka Chase
RJ Rjulie95 Globetrotter ·
For the sleeping bag, the idea is to have as little air as possible inside... it's up to you how you manage it... 😏

Farting in the sleeping bag creates more air but warms you up 😇
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.

"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela

https://www.en-voyages.fr
RJ Rjulie95 Globetrotter ·
Looks like you're already more on top of things than I am, even though your trip is for next summer 😮.

When are you leaving, Isabelle?
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.

"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela

https://www.en-voyages.fr
RO Rouquine38 Globetrotter ·
I'm leaving for 3 weeks this summer from July 27th to August 17th 😎 so in winter 😮.
"Voyager est un triple plaisir : l'attente, l'éblouissement et le souvenir." Ilka Chase
RO Rouquine38 Globetrotter ·
The desert part—I only camp there during the southern summer...😇

In winter, I’ve always slept indoors in southern Namibia or the desert part of SA.

There we go! Even before leaving, I’ll have to plan a return trip during the southern summer to really enjoy it😉

Jeff’s idea of an emergency blanket seems like a good weight/bulk/benefit trade-off.

Yeah, I think we’ll need to swing by Le Vieux Campeur 😏

You’re only sleeping a few nights in the south, and at the beginning at that. Check the weather right before you leave and decide then if you need the heavy-duty sleeping bags. Like here, temperatures can swing wildly from one week to the next, from one winter to the next.

True, but I think if I invest in a heavy-duty sleeping bag... I’ll take it out for at least one breath of fresh air 🙂.
"Voyager est un triple plaisir : l'attente, l'éblouissement et le souvenir." Ilka Chase
MA Marati Globetrotter ·
Guillaume, it looks like you're already more on top of things than I am, even though your trip is for next summer.

My biggest concern is the 2 nights at Namibrand—there are only 2 spots available, so we’ll need to book as early as possible...
RO Rouquine38 Globetrotter ·
Yes, indeed, some places are very popular, which is why we had everything booked before leaving for Mexico 😎.
"Voyager est un triple plaisir : l'attente, l'éblouissement et le souvenir." Ilka Chase

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