So where are they and what are they doing?
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TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
Hi Catherine,

Earlier, wandering the streets of Copenhagen, surrounded by all that gentrified bourgeois Europe that flew in on low-cost airlines, strolling around with their eco-moralizing attitudes amid fashion shops and rainbow-flagged international trinket stores, I found myself missing the Russians from Almaty and the Volga Germans from the cities of Temirtau. Deep down, I prefer them. They know who they are, their gender dynamics are more clearly defined—often to the benefit of women, in reality—and they carry something; they look destiny in the face. You might see Islam there, but very often it’s more about Orthodox orientalism. In any case, they’re growing, they’re stirring, and not by looking toward us—except maybe toward a sick man of contemporary history.

Michel
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Agnès is about to head to Central Asia, and it’s going to change her in so many ways

I really have no idea what you’re basing that on. Probably just a wild imagination.

Oh, I just came across a cooking show about khachapuri. It made me want to go back to Georgia so badly! Especially since the country seems way cozier than it was 12 years ago.

There’s one country that changed me in so many ways.

The country that’s (or was) probably talked about the most on this forum. The United States. How can people settle there—it’s a mystery!
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LI LillieoneFE Veteran ·
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TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
I really don’t know what you’re basing this on. Probably just an overactive imagination.

I’m basing this on what I know about these countries, their recent developments, and the positions you’ve expressed. We’ll talk about it again later.

Especially since this country seems a lot cozier than it was 12 years ago.

It’s mostly gotten a lot closer to Russia.

Michel
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Hi Lillie,

Yeah, Georgia has a lot going for it.

Too bad Putin’s stirring up trouble there to achieve his dream of a greater Russia.
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PO Poste42 Veteran ·
Hi there. This country (which I don’t know much about) is said to be close to Russia, but in what way exactly? Economically, militarily, or tourism-wise—I get that. History’s there, after all. But if it’s about the democratic model, they’re far from progress and moving forward into the future.
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
based on the positions you express.

Meaning what?

You don’t read travel journals, you’re not interested, that’s something you’ve said over and over.

So how can you know how I travel and what I hope to find in my trips?

My views on different topics aren’t obstacles to my travels. Except for the need to disguise myself to travel, which isn’t the case in the countries I visit.
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TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
So how can you know how I travel and what I hope to find there?

You’ve talked about it quite a bit recently.

Apart from the obligation to dress up to travel, which isn’t the case in the countries I’m targeting.

What you call "dressing up" as a requirement only applies to a handful of states, and even then, it’s less strict than you think. Georgians are very hard to figure out—somewhere between Orthodox traditions and a more conventional Eastern mindset. The population is much closer to Russia than to Europe, both in spirit and societal habits. Their impossible-to-learn language isolates them, and Russian remains the language of international communication.

Michel
MA Mathews Globetrotter ·
The country that’s (was) perhaps the most talked about on this forum. The United States. How can one settle there—it’s a mystery?

Personally, between settling in the USA and Georgia, I think I’d still prefer Georgia... And I’m saying this after spending a few months working in Miami. Settling in the USA is sink or swim. If you don’t have two jobs just to get by, if you don’t work like crazy, no one will help you at the slightest existential setback there. At the risk of quickly becoming a fentanyl-addled zombie in homeless neighborhoods.
MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
Hi Lillie,

Yeah, Georgia has a lot going for it.

Too bad Putin is stirring up trouble there to achieve his dream of a greater Russia.

Georgia—a country I really hope to visit someday!
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Georgians are very hard to figure out,

But why would you want me to figure out Georgians? I’m not a cop.

and yet, it’s less strict than you think.

Really? There’s no problem walking around in a knee-length dress and hair blowing in the wind in Iran and Afghanistan (the only countries in question)?

Honestly, the media just makes stuff up—they should hire you instead...
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TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
Oh really? There’s no problem walking around in a knee-length dress and hair down in Iran and Afghanistan (the only countries in question)? 😮

A knee-length dress—or shorts for men—is pretty inappropriate in a lot of places. That said, it doesn’t *strictly* cause "problems." For your hair, in Iran, they’ll say it’s respected about 70% of the time in cities, not 100% everywhere, and often it’s just elegant scarves over the hair. You’re making a big deal out of two or three countries you wouldn’t even visit, I think.

Michel
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Moving to the USA is sink or swim. If you don’t have two jobs just to get by, if you’re not working like a dog, no one will lift a finger to help you if things go south. You risk becoming a fentanyl-addled zombie in homeless neighborhoods fast.

Absolutely.

And more practically, eating well can feel like an obstacle course in some areas. You’ve gotta love junk food... And have the means if you want to eat healthily.

As for housing, it’s often subpar, and insulation? What’s that?

Let’s not even get into the ideology of a growing part of the population or the deep religiosity of many Americans.

You left out racism in your portrait. Between whites (Westerners vs. Latinos), between Black people (long-established vs. "imported"), between every color of the rainbow... Though, let’s be real, that’s everywhere these days.
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
For your hair, in Iran they’ll say it’s respected 70% of the time in cities—not 100% everywhere—and often it’s just elegant scarves over your hair. You’re making a big deal out of two or three countries you wouldn’t even go to, I think.

Go tell that to Mahsa Amini’s family.

Would you dare?
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KO Kola Globetrotter ·
For your hair, in Iran they’ll say it’s respected 70% of the time in cities—not 100% everywhere—and often it’s pretty elegant headscarves.

... And pushing the limits of intellectual dishonesty even further. But you’d be wrong not to try it just to see how far decency will hold you back. The 30%—are you pulling those stats out of your pointy hat?—who wouldn’t respect it do so at the risk of their lives. And some have paid the price. Have you heard of "Women, Life, Freedom"?

@Attila, don't feed the troll 😕
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
Given some of the connections these past few days, people who’ve been absent are suddenly logging back in.

There must be some kind of trigger. It’s really sad, all this.
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
There must be some kind of trigger event

The mailing that was mentioned?
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
don't feed the thing 😕

I’m struggling to copy Kola’s method—post a message and then disappear. 🙂
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JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
There must have been some kind of triggering event

The email mentioned?

No, look a little further back. I don’t feel like talking about it except in hints.
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TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
Good evening Agnès, good evening Laurence,

Sometimes, given your reactions, I wonder who I’ve really been talking to here for years. Sure, you read the French official press diligently, sure, you hate it when people question the versions it puts out—but still. Iran is a large state, not a monolithic bloc. There are social classes, a bourgeoisie, an administrative elite, a religious elite, nations, media, and a domestic policy with its own stakes—just like France, for example, which isn’t exactly free from police violence, exploited by both sides. What happened to this young woman is devastating, but it also needs to be read and reported in context, with motives and surrounding circumstances. Saying it’s commonplace in Iran—I don’t think that’s fair. But it did happen, yes.

... And pushing the limits of intellectual dishonesty even further. But you’d be wrong not to try just to see how far decency will stop you.

I’m tired of this way of moralizing at everyone who has a different take on things. It’s a bit too easy—the outraged blame—when it shuts down analysis.

The 30%—did you pull those stats out of your pointy hat?—who don’t comply do so at the risk of their lives. And some have paid the price.

I’ve been to Iran—it was a while ago, admittedly. More recently, quite a few travel videos, street scenes, in public transport, on YouTube or elsewhere. What I saw makes me think 30%. Here too, between a rural area and a bourgeois street, it’s not the same story.

Have you heard of "Women, Life, Freedom"?

No.

Michel
NI Nimou74 Veteran ·
There’s no problem walking around in a knee-length dress with your hair down in Iran and Afghanistan (the only countries in question)? 😮

It’s not just in those two countries that it’s an issue. In most Muslim countries, actually. (And increasingly so, which wasn’t necessarily the case before.) I’ve never walked around in a knee-length dress in Egypt either, nor in Syria, nor in Jordan...

Iran now: Even if their situation isn’t enviable, Iranian women have always had the right to drive, study, and work. Saudi women, despite some progress in that area, did they have that possibility a few years ago? The thing is, we demonize some countries and not others... I went to Iran a few years ago, and the image I got of the country was quite different from the one presented by the media. That same year, I was given the best-selling book *Not Without My Daughter* by Betty Mahmoody. On the cover, there’s a photo of a woman with her face completely covered. That’s a lie. I never saw covered faces in Iran. But it’s true, the hijab is still mandatory there. And yes, it’s shocking. As a tourist, I couldn’t escape that rule either. Back then, I had quite a few conversations with women. They were exhausted by the mandatory hijab and the morality police checks.

Afghanistan, I don’t know firsthand. From what I read and hear, it’s hell on earth. And yet, during the decade of the Russian occupation supporting the Afghan communist government against the Islamist Mujahideen rebels, women in Kabul had enjoyed a certain Western-style freedom. They’ve fallen from quite a height since then. Poor women. 😕 (Just to be clear, I’m not saying I support the Russian political regime... But credit where credit’s due.) To get back to the topic, Georgia is a beautiful country. I really love Central Asia (even if Georgia isn’t exactly in Central Asia...)
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
It’s not just in these two countries that it’s a problem.

There are actually a whole bunch of countries where it’s better not to be a woman. Not necessarily Muslim ones, either. (I’m thinking of India.)

But as far as I know, only two countries kill over a lock of hair.

Even Saudi Arabia no longer forces women to cover their heads.

I’ve never walked around in a knee-length dress in Egypt either, ..., or in Jordan...

I have.

I went to Iran a few years ago, and the image I got of the country was quite different from the one presented by the media.

Yes and no.

Yes, Iranians as a whole aren’t religious fanatics. They drink, they party, they have mixed-gender relationships... Basically, they enjoy life and would love to do so openly.

No, the Iranian state isn’t any different from what’s described in the news.

When I mention Iran or Afghanistan, I’m talking about the current regime, not the people in those two unfortunate countries.
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VO Voyajou Globetrotter ·
That’s the whole difference between us, Jean Luc; I don’t pass moral judgment on viewpoints that aren’t my own.

Am I the Monsieur Jourdain of morality? I’m simply offering support to a participant stunned by your Prévert-style inventories. And look at how condescendingly you treat those who oppose you with different viewpoints. But you never doubt your own... moral superiority.

I should refrain from expressing viewpoints, even referenced ones...

Who’s asking you to refrain? At most, it would be appreciated if you made an effort to drop your specious reasoning. If their repetition were just tiresome, we’d put up with it—even if it’s tough—but too often, your bitterness and victimhood obsessions are an insult to the oppressed (the *real* ones, mind you, those oppressed today by regimes you favor).

As for these “referenced viewpoints,” you’ll find them across all ideologies—so many groups are convinced they hold the truth. Does that make them *universally* valid? That’s what you imply to anyone who doesn’t applaud you, and they end up belittled.

... because they ruffle your feathers?

Did I ever say that? My hair’s as stubborn as your neck is stiff. Though Attila seems to really mess with your style.

Georgia has mostly moved much closer to Russia.

And especially the opposite. (The problem with propagandists is they can never think against their own certainties.)

Agnès is heading to Central Asia soon—it’ll change her perspective on a lot of things.

Wanna bet a croissant? 😎
PO Poste42 Veteran ·
In Egypt, I didn’t stroll around in a dress—I wore cropped pants and a tank top, and I regretted it. It was evening in the streets of Cairo. You never think enough about these things.
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
What surprised Egyptians the most wasn’t the length of my skirt, but that I beat them at backgammon... 😄
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VO Voyajou Globetrotter ·
And yet, during the decade of Russian occupation aimed at supporting the Afghan communist government against the Islamist Mujahideen rebels, women in Kabul were able to enjoy a certain Western-style freedom. They’ve fallen from quite a height since then.

It was the USSR, not Russia, and it was even better for them during the 20 years of American occupation. And now, they’ve fallen from a great height. Just giving credit where it’s due... 😉

(even if Georgia isn’t exactly located in Central Asia...)

Thanks for pointing that out. I’ll add that the project to join the EU and NATO is written into the Georgian constitution.
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
Just a reminder of the topic:

I’m still seeing, much to my surprise, fewer travel journals, way fewer messages, and way fewer questions. I don’t see many new members logging in, and I see quite a few connected members who aren’t participating—or aren’t participating anymore.

Something’s not adding up for me because, in my opinion, VF is still appealing, and I don’t see which other sites could really compete.

Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid? Does it just take more time for some people to discover the site or learn that it’s active again? Do people now prefer quick consumption on sites like FB or others I don’t know about? Where have the old-timers gone, and what are they doing with their time now? What’s really going on?
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TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
Good evening Jean-Luc,

No joke? Come on, come on. I left Georgia on August 8, 2008, on a Turkish coach, half an hour before the Russian missiles hit Gori. The people I left behind hated Mr. Saakashvili and the Americans in Hummers parading on the hills of Tbilisi and buying up villas and land. I even ran into B. Ivanishvili once in a while. Those same people have been marching in recent weeks for the country’s EU membership, waving European flags, even though back then they completely rejected the idea, mocking their "orientality." So much for grand principles and moral lessons...

I don’t know why I seem to irritate you so much, Agnès, Laurence, one or two others, and yourself, but I’m waiting for your experiences and arguments—yet they never come.

Michel
KA Kate Globetrotter ·
As a former member—I’m not necessarily representative of the group, though 😛—I read but don’t always feel like participating. I often sigh and roll my eyes, and not just in this discussion.

Travel journals poured in as soon as the site reopened, but most were reposted from other forums. The photo contest is on life support. I wanted to ask questions about Istanbul but found answers right away on the GDR. In quite a few discussions, there’s a lot of "insider" talk.

Something escapes me because, in my opinion, VF is still attractive, and I don’t see which other sites could compete.

You’re right. And yet, the one created by former VF members is doing really well. Fewer people, but more activity.

Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid?

Yes, or rather, between before and after VF reopened.

Does it just take more time for some to discover the site or learn it’s active again?

I think after 6 months, the deal is sealed.

Do people now prefer a form of quick consumption on sites like FB or others I don’t know?

Who are "people"? Not me, that’s for sure.

Where did the old-timers go, and what are they doing with their time now?

You’re joking, right? They’re feeding themselves differently ;)
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VO Voyajou Globetrotter ·
I left Georgia on August 8, 2008

The Georgian constitution, which provides for joining the EU and NATO, dates back to 1995.

I don’t know what it is about me that irritates you so much, Agnès, Laurence, one or two others, and yourselfs, but I’m still waiting for your experiences and arguments—yet they never come.

Perhaps you should try reading without preconceptions.

Alright, you read the French official press diligently, alright, you hate it when people question the versions it puts out, but still.

We’ve told you before: there’s no such thing as the "French official press." That only exists in the imagination of conspiracy theorists. If you’d like, I can put together a selection for you tomorrow on the same topic from *L'Humanité*, *La Croix*, *Le Figaro*, *Le Monde*, *L'Opinion*, *Les Échos*, *Libération*, etc. You’ll see there’s just as much difference between them as there is between you and me.
PO Poste42 Veteran ·
The photo contest is dying, in my opinion it's mainly because of the themes chosen, especially the last two.
TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
The Georgian constitution, which provides for accession to the EU and NATO, dates from 1995

So what? The things that were set in the chaos of that time...

We’ve already told you: the "official French press" doesn’t exist.

Of course it does—much to the detriment of freedom of speech.

Michel
KO Kola Globetrotter ·
I’m struggling to copy the Kola method—post a message and then disappear.🙂

There isn’t, and never has been, a Kola method. Maybe just a passing weariness with certain overbearing presences, and definitely other priorities… rather than the obsessive goal of having the last word.🙂
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
It was a compliment. Or rather a hint of admiration.
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NI Nimou74 Veteran ·
It was the USSR, not Russia

Oops! The Soviet occupation, I’ll correct that...

it was even better for them during the 20 years of American occupation.

Economically speaking, yeah, probably.
KO Kola Globetrotter ·
A compliment... a touch of admiration

A touch that opens a chink in the armor 🙂, like a light feather fluttering around the busybodies and the relentless hammer-wielders.

A few grams of gentleness in this brutal world
NI Nimou74 Veteran ·
Yes, Iranians as a whole aren’t religious fanatics. They drink, they party, they have mixed-gender relationships... In short, they enjoy life and would love to do so openly.

This is especially true in big cities. Drinking is still pretty tricky, but it does happen sometimes—just in secret, of course.😉 We never managed to find any when we were there. Back then, the only thing available was "Islamic beer," which has no alcohol at all. You’ve gotta really like it...

Have you been to Iran recently?
ZO Zorba Veteran ·
You’ve probably heard this before: the "official French press" doesn’t exist.

You might want to be a bit more nuanced, though, because we’re seeing a well-orchestrated consensus in French public opinion—a result of this non-pluralistic press. For example, today it’s clearly "Trump is evil," yesterday it was "Putin is evil," and before that it was "Zelensky, the brave captain" or "Raoult, the conspiracy theorist." The timing is perfect: you go to social gatherings, and you’re served the day’s talking points on who’s the "good guy" or the "bad guy." As for the arguments? They’re simplistic, nonexistent, or just plain wrong.

Yet the "conspiracy" is based on the fact that the press is state-subsidized—even *L’Humanité*—so you can’t bite the hand that feeds you. The media is in the hands of a few billionaires, with all the consequences you can imagine for newsrooms. There’s no major opposition newspaper left. The press has far fewer journalists than it used to, which is why it often just regurgitates AFP dispatches.

With your usual talent, I trust you to gather articles on the same topic from different newspapers. As for me, given my laziness, I could point out topics that don’t appear in the mainstream written or broadcast media. Is that a consensus too? I’m thinking of a serious issue with major implications that the whole world is talking about—but it’s completely absent from national news outlets. Radio silence, as they say.

That’s why I feed my conspiratorial appetite with all the alternative channels online. But I’m a glutton for punishment, so I still enjoy LCI for the spectacle (especially Nivat’s outfits) and to know what the ideological "ready-to-wear" of the moment is.
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
I’ve never been to Iran (see: mandatory disguise). I could’ve looked the other way at one point because the mullahs’ madness seemed to be giving way to modern desires. Unfortunately, that wasn’t the case, and things quickly reverted to normal.

My ex went to Iran. He liked it. He drank alcohol. It was the vehicle’s driver who organized (and offered...) that forbidden moment.
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LI LillieoneFE Veteran ·
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
If I follow your reasoning, the press is under government orders.

So why this? (It’s just one example among many.)

Would this kind of article be accepted by Putin in his country? By the mullahs in Iran? By the dictator ruling North Korea?

I don’t think so...

And then you write yourself that you find media with dissenting voices.

So there are necessarily multiple opinions accessible to everyone.

Finally, if Putin is described as a monster, and if that’s the truth, it’s normal for it to be stated everywhere. No serious journalist would claim the opposite of what they believe just because others think the same way. That’s absurd.
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JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
People are completely unaware of how mass manipulation methods have progressed over the last 70 years.

The media are honest and always tell the truth, I swear it to you straight up and with my boots on 🤪
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
The media can be dishonest Sputnik, for example....
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ZO Zorba Veteran ·
If I follow your reasoning, the press is under government orders.

No, it's more nuanced than that, and I think that's precisely what you're missing—the nuance. Subsidized "opposition" media know how far they can go without being under orders.

So why this? (It’s one example among many.) This article is an example of what’s still tolerable.

Would this kind of article be accepted by Putin in his country? By the mullahs in Iran? By the dictator ruling North Korea?

Of course not; but beware of the phrase: "comparison is not reasoning."

I don’t think so...

And then you write that you find media with dissenting voices. Yes, on the internet, there are plenty—thankfully, otherwise it would be stifling.

So there are necessarily multiple opinions accessible to everyone. Yes, for those with internet access.

Finally, if Putin is described as an ogre, and if that’s the truth, it’s normal for it to be stated everywhere. If Putin *were* an ogre, it would be normal to denounce him; but *is* he an ogre?

No serious journalist would proclaim the opposite of what they think just because others think the same way. That’s absurd.

I didn’t understand that last sentence. I think editorial pressure on journalists is very strong.
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
I wanted to say that no one’s gonna write the opposite of what they think just because everyone else thinks the same way.

Example:

The whole forum writes 2+2=4.

A newcomer arrives.

They think 2+2=4. They’re not gonna post 2+2=5 on the forum just because everyone else wrote 2+2=4—even if they feel like being contrary or don’t wanna look like they’re following the crowd...
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NI Nimou74 Veteran ·
People are absolutely not aware of how mass manipulation methods have progressed over the last 70 years.

The media is honest and always tells the truth, I swear to you, cross my heart and hope to die

+++1
KO Kola Globetrotter ·
For example, today it's clearly "Trump is evil," yesterday it was "Putin is evil," the day before it was "Zelensky, brave captain" or "Raoult, conspiracy theorist." The timing is perfect—you go to meeting places where they serve you the phrase of the moment about the "good guy" or the "bad guy" of the day. As for the arguments, they're simplistic, absent, or just plain wrong.

I don’t know which press would take its readers for idiots (that does exist, but it’s another topic), nor which meeting places you frequent, nor who this they is serving you such... basic statements (euphemism). But it’s easy—yes, easy—to look elsewhere.

Far from the caricature presented, if you’re willing and able to spend a little time—perhaps at the expense of time lost here tilting at windmills—if you’re a bit curious, cross-check information, aren’t put off by length or the sometimes dense erudition of articles that analyze the substance without ideology, and don’t shy away from less conventional sources—like the internet—it seems possible to form an informed opinion without giving in to the trend of the moment: picking a side.

I could point out topics that don’t appear in the written or audiovisual press. Is that a consensus too? I’m thinking in particular of a serious issue with major implications that the whole world is talking about but is completely absent from national media. Radio silence, as they say.

You’ve piqued my curiosity—will you shed some light on this?

@Jojoone

People have absolutely no idea

But you, of course, you know best.
ZO Zorba Veteran ·
I don’t know which press—assuming its readers are idiots (that does exist, but that’s another topic)—or what meeting places you frequent, nor who this "they" is that feeds you such... basic assertions (euphemism), but it’s easy, really, to look elsewhere.

Meeting places: these are my friends, acquaintances, or conversations with shopkeepers. Readers aren’t idiots, but they’re incredibly easy to manipulate if we go by the results. I don’t trust print media or mainstream outlets at all. I confirm the current trend: it’s "Trump is evil"; Putin has dropped off the radar for now. What’s your experience?

Far from the caricature presented, but if you’re willing and able to spend a little time—perhaps at the expense of time lost here tilting at windmills—if you’re a bit curious, cross-check information, aren’t put off by length or the sometimes dense erudition of articles that analyze the core without ideology, and don’t shy away from less conventional sources—internet and others—it seems possible to form an informed opinion without giving in to the current trend of picking a side.

I confirm that by taking the time, it’s possible to form an opinion from open sources, carefully cross-checking information or trusting reliable sites, or reading essays on a given topic. That way, you avoid basic propaganda or LCI.

"I could point out topics that don’t appear in print or broadcast media. Is that a consensus too? I’m thinking in particular of a serious issue with major implications that the whole world is talking about but is completely absent from national news and airwaves. Radio silence, as they say."

You’ve piqued my curiosity—will you shed some light on it?

Sorry for not saying more; it’s a topic that will eventually come out. Alternative media are covering it. We’re not going to flood this travel forum with comments on such a trivial subject.
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·


But you, of course, know all about it.

All I know is that you have a regrettable tendency to use inclusive writing, even though the Académie française has dismissed it for excellent reasons. That said, it probably doesn’t stop you from being a great traveler. Most participants on this forum are likely good-natured and pleasant to meet while traveling—let’s not forget that. Holding a grudge against someone isn’t good; it doesn’t make the person involved any better.
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
They hide everything from us, we’re told nothing?😇
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