Merci pour la communication de vos expériences
Etat des routes et sécurité en ex Yougoslavie
by Patloyaux
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Pour mon prochain voyage (du 10 au 30 septembre) dans les pays de l'ex Yougoslavie, (en camping car), recherche info sur conditions de circulation, acceuil, sécurité.....
Merci pour la communication de vos expériences
Merci pour la communication de vos expériences
personellement je n etais pour l'instant qu en serbie en solo.et je sis uen passionnée j y retorune d'ailleurs cet hiver!!
au depart de belgrade tu epux aller ou tu veux.
et il y a des bus entre pays d el'ex-yougoslavie, mais attention pas partout!!!
tu peux prendre le train aussi, mais le bus ets meilleur!
sinon le sgens sont extrement accueilant ste t aiderons en cas de pepin,
si tu a d'autres questions, n hesites aps!
mjeroua@yahoo.com
sinon voici un site sur les balkans www.balkans.eu.org
au depart de belgrade tu epux aller ou tu veux.
et il y a des bus entre pays d el'ex-yougoslavie, mais attention pas partout!!!
tu peux prendre le train aussi, mais le bus ets meilleur!
sinon le sgens sont extrement accueilant ste t aiderons en cas de pepin,
si tu a d'autres questions, n hesites aps!
mjeroua@yahoo.com
sinon voici un site sur les balkans www.balkans.eu.org
Tu aurais dû poser cette question sur le forum "voyager en motorisé"
Recherche sur ce forum, tu trouveras certainement des réponses à tes questions (comme par exemple cette discution dans laquelle j'étais intervenu)
Recherche sur ce forum, tu trouveras certainement des réponses à tes questions (comme par exemple cette discution dans laquelle j'étais intervenu)
« Le paradis n'est pas sur la terre, mais il y en a des morceaux » Jules Renard
la slovenie c'est l 'europe. la croatie du sud c'est tres chere mais tres accueillant. note une auroroute existe, péage en kuna mais accepte et affiche les pris en euros, c est tres pratique car la route par la cote est surveillée, ��troite, sinueuse et limitee a 60km . aucuns risques au niveau securite ...civile. la frontiere entre la croatie et la bosnie croate en direction de dubrovnic est symbolique. pas de visas a prévoir. tres pratique si c est pour visite les villes de zadar, split et dubrovnicq, l 'autoroute a 80 km de rijeka en direction de split. elle est interrompue a pirovac et reprend apres sibenik a vrpolje pour finir au nord de split. cette autoroute est de =/- 70 kn donc +/- 10 € le montenegro et la serbie sont encore assez en retard economiquement, attention au radars. aucuns dangers....civile. mais attention au kosovo et ne pas traverse la province de kolasin (sud serbie ) la nuit . na pas y dormir.danger! le montenegro utilise exclusivement l euros et a podgorica on trouve des distributeurs cb et des magasins comme ailleurs en europe. pour ce qui est de la bih pas de soucis dans la région de sarajevo ni celle de mostar . ce qui est long ce sont les frontieres fédérales. bih=bosnie note : montenegro: il existe un bac qui relie kotor a budva 4.60 € il evite un detour de 50km de route tres sinueuse...depart toutes les 15 minutes.
Bonjour, je m'appèle Xavier et j'habite à Montpellier.
Je suis allé au mois d'août dernier en Roumanie en voiture. Je suis passé par la Slovénie (petit pays montagneux), la Croatie (je ne me suis pas arrêté), la Serbie, pouis retour par la Bosnie. Se sontdes pays agréable et chaleureux, pas très cher. Il fait bon en été mais les hiver on l'air d'être très froid. Il y a des transports publics (assez lents). Les routes sont souvent des nationales assez bien pratiquable, mais il ne faut pas être pressé en règle générale. IL faut évité de camper en bosnie, encore bcp de mines.
Ces pays sont dépaysants, les grandes villes ressemblent aux notres mais les villages sont plus "décalés" (à voir soi-même). Niveau sécurité c'est ok, il faut quand même resté vigilant. Ils conduisent parfois mal et les routes sont encombrés de camions, tracteurs...
Les frontières c'est ok, vérifier si l'on est bien assuré. Pour plus d'infos seguinxavier@yahoo.fr
bon voyage.
Je suis allé au mois d'août dernier en Roumanie en voiture. Je suis passé par la Slovénie (petit pays montagneux), la Croatie (je ne me suis pas arrêté), la Serbie, pouis retour par la Bosnie. Se sontdes pays agréable et chaleureux, pas très cher. Il fait bon en été mais les hiver on l'air d'être très froid. Il y a des transports publics (assez lents). Les routes sont souvent des nationales assez bien pratiquable, mais il ne faut pas être pressé en règle générale. IL faut évité de camper en bosnie, encore bcp de mines.
Ces pays sont dépaysants, les grandes villes ressemblent aux notres mais les villages sont plus "décalés" (à voir soi-même). Niveau sécurité c'est ok, il faut quand même resté vigilant. Ils conduisent parfois mal et les routes sont encombrés de camions, tracteurs...
Les frontières c'est ok, vérifier si l'on est bien assuré. Pour plus d'infos seguinxavier@yahoo.fr
bon voyage.
Pour savoir, il n'y a qu'une chose à faire, y aller...
bonjour,
Voici 3 ans que passe mes vacances sur la cote slovene, les prix sont en viron 20 0/0 moins chère qu'en France, et sourtout moins chere qu'en Croatie voisine, les controles au frontières sont reduits à leurs plus simples expression et depuis cette année plus de douane (CEE oblige), le niveaux d'èquipement est équivalent à la France, resto, magasin, garages, médecins, ....La monnaie est le tollarts ou talarjev(SIT) 1.000 SIT vaut 4, 20 EUR, distributeur dans le moindre petit village.
Cette année annèe, j'ai traversè une partie de la Croatie jusque Bihac en Bosnie-Herzegovine(BIH), j'ai été trés choquè dans la règion de PLIVICE par les maisons dètruites ou criblèes de balles, vestiges des guerres de 91, dans un restaurant étaent encadrèes les photos des valeureux guerriers du cru buvant et dansant, un verre d'une main et une arme de l'autre, leures tristes missions ayant probablement été réussies avec succès.
Le poste de douane croate signifie la fin du monde civilisè, cotè BIH c'esr retour 30 ans en arrière, contole des papiers assez strictes, bien que la CNI soit suffisantes, par contre au retour prsonne en vue, l'heure de l'apèro peut-etre?Attention à la carte verte le case BIH ne doit pas etre biffée, ou demander une extention avant le départ.En BIH on mange très bien bien pour 5 EUR, le litre d'essence 98 à0, 75 EUR(le paradis).La monnaie est Mark Komvertible (KM) 2KM veut 1 EUR.Mais il veut mieux prèvoir suffisament d'EUR accèptès par les commercants.Il y a des distributeurs à Bihac, mais souvent en panne.
Si besoin ....
bon vayage
Voici 3 ans que passe mes vacances sur la cote slovene, les prix sont en viron 20 0/0 moins chère qu'en France, et sourtout moins chere qu'en Croatie voisine, les controles au frontières sont reduits à leurs plus simples expression et depuis cette année plus de douane (CEE oblige), le niveaux d'èquipement est équivalent à la France, resto, magasin, garages, médecins, ....La monnaie est le tollarts ou talarjev(SIT) 1.000 SIT vaut 4, 20 EUR, distributeur dans le moindre petit village.
Cette année annèe, j'ai traversè une partie de la Croatie jusque Bihac en Bosnie-Herzegovine(BIH), j'ai été trés choquè dans la règion de PLIVICE par les maisons dètruites ou criblèes de balles, vestiges des guerres de 91, dans un restaurant étaent encadrèes les photos des valeureux guerriers du cru buvant et dansant, un verre d'une main et une arme de l'autre, leures tristes missions ayant probablement été réussies avec succès.
Le poste de douane croate signifie la fin du monde civilisè, cotè BIH c'esr retour 30 ans en arrière, contole des papiers assez strictes, bien que la CNI soit suffisantes, par contre au retour prsonne en vue, l'heure de l'apèro peut-etre?Attention à la carte verte le case BIH ne doit pas etre biffée, ou demander une extention avant le départ.En BIH on mange très bien bien pour 5 EUR, le litre d'essence 98 à0, 75 EUR(le paradis).La monnaie est Mark Komvertible (KM) 2KM veut 1 EUR.Mais il veut mieux prèvoir suffisament d'EUR accèptès par les commercants.Il y a des distributeurs à Bihac, mais souvent en panne.
Si besoin ....
bon vayage
Xavier.
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Maya and Sullivan
We're back. It's still a bit tough to get precise info, so here's a quick trip report!
A good starting point is Shkoder, a really pleasant city. You can easily explore Shkoder itself in a day or two.
Two accessible spots: Valbona and Theth. In both cases, local travel agencies in Shkoder or online offer round-trip or one-way access packages. Super handy, especially for Valbona.
Valbona and Theth are both very steep! There aren’t many easy hikes for less sporty folks (like me!).
Valbona: The highlight is the amazing 2.5-hour boat ride across Lake Koman. There are day trips from Shkoder, but you’ll only get a short tour of the lake. The best option is to do the full crossing—so spend a night in Valbona (or two if you want to hike in the valley) and return.
Theth is deeply nestled in the mountains. The village at the end of the valley, which is a dead end, has lots of hotels, but they’re pricey. Other hostels are scattered along the mountainside road, but it’s a steep climb down to the village or to the start of the two easy hikes (waterfalls and the Blue Eye). For us, it was a one-hour descent (and ascent!). It’s fine if you have a car; otherwise, keep an eye out for a taxi (cheap) or try hitchhiking—it works really well. Access from Shkoder to Theth is through an agency. The road is in great condition, and you can also rent a car for 2-3 days in Shkoder. If we did it again, that’s the option we’d choose.
We didn’t do the trek and returned to Shkoder each time. I can’t speak to its difficulty, but we were there in late May, and even experienced hikers had given up because of heavy rain and snow.
Hope this helps! It’s a stunning region you shouldn’t miss.
A good starting point is Shkoder, a really pleasant city. You can easily explore Shkoder itself in a day or two.
Two accessible spots: Valbona and Theth. In both cases, local travel agencies in Shkoder or online offer round-trip or one-way access packages. Super handy, especially for Valbona.
Valbona and Theth are both very steep! There aren’t many easy hikes for less sporty folks (like me!).
Valbona: The highlight is the amazing 2.5-hour boat ride across Lake Koman. There are day trips from Shkoder, but you’ll only get a short tour of the lake. The best option is to do the full crossing—so spend a night in Valbona (or two if you want to hike in the valley) and return.
Theth is deeply nestled in the mountains. The village at the end of the valley, which is a dead end, has lots of hotels, but they’re pricey. Other hostels are scattered along the mountainside road, but it’s a steep climb down to the village or to the start of the two easy hikes (waterfalls and the Blue Eye). For us, it was a one-hour descent (and ascent!). It’s fine if you have a car; otherwise, keep an eye out for a taxi (cheap) or try hitchhiking—it works really well. Access from Shkoder to Theth is through an agency. The road is in great condition, and you can also rent a car for 2-3 days in Shkoder. If we did it again, that’s the option we’d choose.
We didn’t do the trek and returned to Shkoder each time. I can’t speak to its difficulty, but we were there in late May, and even experienced hikers had given up because of heavy rain and snow.
Hope this helps! It’s a stunning region you shouldn’t miss.
We’re a Canadian couple, both 77, and we’re already planning our vacation for fall 2027.
Timeframe: mid-September to mid-October... dates are flexible, and we might stay even longer.
Initially, I had planned this itinerary:
Athens (3), Naxos (4), Paros (4), Santorini (4), then a flight to Istanbul (7–10 days!!). This would let us maximize our flights and experience another culture.
That’s a lot of ferries, though... I’ve already cut out Milos.
Our second option would be to stay 2 x 15 days on two different islands, but I’d still keep Istanbul as our next destination... or maybe 30 days on one island that offers the chance to take day trips to other islands where the ferry ride is no more than 2 to 2.5 hours. For example, Naxos to Paros only takes 30 minutes. We could return the same evening or stay overnight.
Naxos seems like the best option!!!
For Istanbul, of course we want to do a day cruise on the Bosphorus and see Hagia Sophia. If we stay 6–7 days, what would be the other main attractions? Are there any points of interest we can reach by local bus?
Our second option would be to stay 2 x 15 days on two different islands, but I’d still keep Istanbul as our next destination... or maybe 30 days on one island that offers the chance to take day trips to other islands where the ferry ride is no more than 2 to 2.5 hours. For example, Naxos to Paros only takes 30 minutes. We could return the same evening or stay overnight.
Naxos seems like the best option!!!
For Istanbul, of course we want to do a day cruise on the Bosphorus and see Hagia Sophia. If we stay 6–7 days, what would be the other main attractions? Are there any points of interest we can reach by local bus?
Hi there!
We bought our tickets to Greece at the end of November 2025, and let’s just say the geopolitical climate has really taken a turn since then with the war started by the United States against Iran. Not to mention all the other conflicts happening around the world 😕... Anyway!
Our flight from Montreal is on May 1st, and I was wondering how things are currently being experienced in Greece.
We were planning to rent a car and had already booked accommodations on three Cyclades islands!!
The oil shortage is also worrying us...
If you could share some insights on this, that would be great!
Thanks!!
Thanks!!







