Bonjour à tous !
Je pars mi-septembre trois semaines en Australie et au retour, je fais une longue escale à Hong-Kong (compagnie Cathay Pacific). Concrètement, j'atterris à 5h00 et je redécolle à 00h05.
J'ai donc toute la journée à ma disposition et j'entends bien la mettre à profit pour visiter au mieux la ville.
Ne connaissant pas du tout cette ville, auriez-vous des conseils quant à l'itinéraire à suivre et aux incontournables à voir, sachant qu'on n'a qu'une journée sur place ?
Est-ce exacte qu'aucun Visa n'est disponible pour sortir de l'aéroport ?
Quel est le moyen le plus rapide pour rejoindre la ville depuis l'aéroport ?
Merci d'avance pour votre aide !
Bonne soirée
Bonjour
Nous voyageons à Hong kong du 10 au 17 septembre: 5 jours Hong Kong, 2 jours Macao
et nous souhaitons connaitre l’appréciation de voyageurs sur place en ce moment, notamment sur les quartiers en tension.
Merci également de nous informer sur vos impressions relatives aux événements en cours
Cordialement
Jean-François
Bonjour
Nous devons effectuer un voyage à Hongkong en octobre et au vu des évènements actuels sur Hongkong nous avons quelques appréhensions
Si quelqu'un peut nous renseigner à savoir s'il est raisonnable d'y aller quand même ou risque t'on de ne pouvoir prendre les avions et ne pas profiter des infrastructures comme les métros ferry etc
Par avance merci de nous faire partager vos conseils et connaissances sur ce sujet
Bonjour
J’ai réservé un voyage d’une semaine fin mai dans la ville de hong kong Quels seraient les lieux à ne manquer sans courrir en 1 semaine Merci
Nb avez vous un hôtel moyenne gamme à me conseiller
J’ai réservé un voyage d’une semaine fin mai dans la ville de hong kong Quels seraient les lieux à ne manquer sans courrir en 1 semaine Merci
Nb avez vous un hôtel moyenne gamme à me conseiller
Hi there,
I’m planning a route through China from Hong Kong to Chengdu.
Here’s the draft:
Hong Kong + Macau (4 nights) Shenzhen (1 night) Guangzhou (2 nights) Yangshuo (3 nights) Sanjiang (1 night) Longji Rice Terraces (1 night) Guilin then head north (1 night) Zhangjiajie (3 nights) Chongqing (1 night) Chengdu (2 nights)
I’d love your thoughts. Can I cut nights from some spots and add them elsewhere?
Quick note—I’ve got a lot of travel experience and I’m pretty fast and efficient (early riser, etc.). So I usually pack in more than the average traveler...
Thanks for your help!
I’m planning a route through China from Hong Kong to Chengdu.
Here’s the draft:
Hong Kong + Macau (4 nights) Shenzhen (1 night) Guangzhou (2 nights) Yangshuo (3 nights) Sanjiang (1 night) Longji Rice Terraces (1 night) Guilin then head north (1 night) Zhangjiajie (3 nights) Chongqing (1 night) Chengdu (2 nights)
I’d love your thoughts. Can I cut nights from some spots and add them elsewhere?
Quick note—I’ve got a lot of travel experience and I’m pretty fast and efficient (early riser, etc.). So I usually pack in more than the average traveler...
Thanks for your help!
Hi there,
We’re thinking of spending 3 weeks in Asia this fall to visit some of the major capitals on this vast continent. We’d like to get a (very rough) sense of just how fast Asia is moving compared to what we see in the West (we’re from Quebec). For now, our very preliminary list includes Tokyo, Hong Kong, and Singapore. There are obviously plenty of other options—Seoul, Shanghai, etc.
What do you think? Thanks in advance!
We’re thinking of spending 3 weeks in Asia this fall to visit some of the major capitals on this vast continent. We’d like to get a (very rough) sense of just how fast Asia is moving compared to what we see in the West (we’re from Quebec). For now, our very preliminary list includes Tokyo, Hong Kong, and Singapore. There are obviously plenty of other options—Seoul, Shanghai, etc.
What do you think? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’ve traveled a lot outside Europe before Covid, usually organizing my trips myself. In recent years, I’ve focused on Europe, which I’d neglected before. Now, I’d like to get back to long-haul trips and fill in some gaps on my world map.
At the moment, I’m considering a route in China—I’ve only been to Hong Kong (which isn’t really China)—for late April/early May 2026. Here’s a first draft:
D1: Departure D2: Arrive in Beijing in the morning – hutongs – night in Beijing D3: Forbidden City – Temple of Heaven – night in Beijing D4: Great Wall – night in Beijing D5: Summer Palace – (Ming Tombs?) – night in Beijing D6: Train to Datong – Yungang Grottoes – night in Datong D7: Train to Pingyao – visit – night in Pingyao D8: Train to Xi’an – Wild Goose Pagoda – night in Xi’an D9: Terracotta Army – Xi’an city walls – night in Xi’an D10: Flight to Zhangjiajie (or the night before) – Tianzi Mountain – night in Wulingyuan D11: National park – night in Wulingyuan D12: National park – night in Wulingyuan D13: Train to Chongqing – night in Chongqing D14: Explore Chongqing – night in Chongqing D15: Return flight
I know it’s tight, but what do you think? For the Great Wall section, what do you recommend? Jinshanling seems like the best option, or Simatai, but it’s far. For the budget, I’m planning on 2,500 € per person. Thanks for your feedback! Phil
I’ve traveled a lot outside Europe before Covid, usually organizing my trips myself. In recent years, I’ve focused on Europe, which I’d neglected before. Now, I’d like to get back to long-haul trips and fill in some gaps on my world map.
At the moment, I’m considering a route in China—I’ve only been to Hong Kong (which isn’t really China)—for late April/early May 2026. Here’s a first draft:
D1: Departure D2: Arrive in Beijing in the morning – hutongs – night in Beijing D3: Forbidden City – Temple of Heaven – night in Beijing D4: Great Wall – night in Beijing D5: Summer Palace – (Ming Tombs?) – night in Beijing D6: Train to Datong – Yungang Grottoes – night in Datong D7: Train to Pingyao – visit – night in Pingyao D8: Train to Xi’an – Wild Goose Pagoda – night in Xi’an D9: Terracotta Army – Xi’an city walls – night in Xi’an D10: Flight to Zhangjiajie (or the night before) – Tianzi Mountain – night in Wulingyuan D11: National park – night in Wulingyuan D12: National park – night in Wulingyuan D13: Train to Chongqing – night in Chongqing D14: Explore Chongqing – night in Chongqing D15: Return flight
I know it’s tight, but what do you think? For the Great Wall section, what do you recommend? Jinshanling seems like the best option, or Simatai, but it’s far. For the budget, I’m planning on 2,500 € per person. Thanks for your feedback! Phil
Hi everyone
I’m currently planning my trip to China for next August.
I’m starting from scratch, so I’m counting on your advice and firsthand experiences!
For now, I only know that I’ll arrive in China via Beijing, Shanghai, or Hong Kong and leave 15 days later from another one of these three cities.
In between, I’d love to explore a mountainous and natural region in the countryside.
The Guilin area really appeals to me with its spectacular landscapes.
I still have tons of questions:
- What can you do during this often humid season?
- Is it better to go through a local agency or organize everything yourself?
- What itineraries would you recommend?
Anyway, everything’s still up in the air, and I can’t wait to read your opinions, suggestions, and great tips to help me build this trip!
Bonjour à tous !
Nous partons en famille, mon mari, ma fille de 7 ans et moi-même, 3 semaines en Chine, en juillet prochain.
Nous avons prévu de rester sur Pékin les 5 premiers jours. Ensuite, nous prenons un avion jusqu'à Shenzhen. Nous pensons rester une nuit sur Macao. Nous reprenons l'avion de Shengdu le dernier jour de notre voyage pour nous ramener sur Pékin puis sur Nice. En consacrant environ 5 jours pour le Sichuan.
Là où j'ai besoin de votre aide c'est pour la partie entre Macao et le Sichuan. Nous allons prendre les transports en commun pour remonter. Cependant, nous hésitons en Lijiang qui est quand même assez excentré ou l'île Haïnan (pour faire un peu de farniente). Nous aimerions également passer par Yangshuo et Guilin.
Auriez-vous des conseils ou des suggestions pour choisir entre ces deux étapes ? Ou d'autres idées pour remonter de Macao à Shengdu en 15 jours.
Merci beaucoup pour toute l'aide que vous pourrez nous apporter !!!
Marion
Nous partons en famille, mon mari, ma fille de 7 ans et moi-même, 3 semaines en Chine, en juillet prochain.
Nous avons prévu de rester sur Pékin les 5 premiers jours. Ensuite, nous prenons un avion jusqu'à Shenzhen. Nous pensons rester une nuit sur Macao. Nous reprenons l'avion de Shengdu le dernier jour de notre voyage pour nous ramener sur Pékin puis sur Nice. En consacrant environ 5 jours pour le Sichuan.
Là où j'ai besoin de votre aide c'est pour la partie entre Macao et le Sichuan. Nous allons prendre les transports en commun pour remonter. Cependant, nous hésitons en Lijiang qui est quand même assez excentré ou l'île Haïnan (pour faire un peu de farniente). Nous aimerions également passer par Yangshuo et Guilin.
Auriez-vous des conseils ou des suggestions pour choisir entre ces deux étapes ? Ou d'autres idées pour remonter de Macao à Shengdu en 15 jours.
Merci beaucoup pour toute l'aide que vous pourrez nous apporter !!!
Marion
Hi there,
I’d love to get some feedback on our 30-day / 29-night itinerary in China. We’ll be there in September as a family with two kids (6 and 10 years old). Do you think I should cut a few nights between Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) and Yangshuo? I’ve planned 15 nights total there. We’ll be on a round-the-world trip starting May 2026 and will need to do schoolwork with the kids. Hoping to fit it in during train rides!! Ever since I started planning this China itinerary, I’ve been discovering completely mind-blowing places I’d never heard of before—30 days feels way too short for China!!!
Here’s our itinerary:
Beijing - 4 nights Forbidden City Great Wall of China Temple of Heaven
Xi’an - 3 nights Terracotta Army Muslim Quarter & Great Mosque
Chengdu - 3 nights Zoo - Research Base of Giant Panda Breeding Wenshu Yuan Temple
Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) - 3 nights "Avatar Mountains"
Zhangjiajie - 2 nights Tianmen Mountain
Furong Town - 2 nights
Fenghuang - 2 nights
Guilin - 2 nights Chuanshan Park Guilin Yaoshan Scenic Attraction Reed Flute Cave
Yangshuo - 4 nights Biking along the Yulong River Moon Hill Ruyi Peak Xianggong Hill
Shanghai - 4 nights Shanghai Disneyland Yu Garden / Yuyuan Garden Yuyuan Bazaar
Thanks! Cédric
I’d love to get some feedback on our 30-day / 29-night itinerary in China. We’ll be there in September as a family with two kids (6 and 10 years old). Do you think I should cut a few nights between Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) and Yangshuo? I’ve planned 15 nights total there. We’ll be on a round-the-world trip starting May 2026 and will need to do schoolwork with the kids. Hoping to fit it in during train rides!! Ever since I started planning this China itinerary, I’ve been discovering completely mind-blowing places I’d never heard of before—30 days feels way too short for China!!!
Here’s our itinerary:
Beijing - 4 nights Forbidden City Great Wall of China Temple of Heaven
Xi’an - 3 nights Terracotta Army Muslim Quarter & Great Mosque
Chengdu - 3 nights Zoo - Research Base of Giant Panda Breeding Wenshu Yuan Temple
Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) - 3 nights "Avatar Mountains"
Zhangjiajie - 2 nights Tianmen Mountain
Furong Town - 2 nights
Fenghuang - 2 nights
Guilin - 2 nights Chuanshan Park Guilin Yaoshan Scenic Attraction Reed Flute Cave
Yangshuo - 4 nights Biking along the Yulong River Moon Hill Ruyi Peak Xianggong Hill
Shanghai - 4 nights Shanghai Disneyland Yu Garden / Yuyuan Garden Yuyuan Bazaar
Thanks! Cédric
Bonsoir,
J'ai quelques questions :
- Pensez vous qu'en une semaine on peut tout visiter ? - Ou dormir à Hong Kong ? Dans quels quartier ? - Janvier c'est la bon mois pour visiter la ville ?
Bonne soirée
J'ai quelques questions :
- Pensez vous qu'en une semaine on peut tout visiter ? - Ou dormir à Hong Kong ? Dans quels quartier ? - Janvier c'est la bon mois pour visiter la ville ?
Bonne soirée
Hong Kong est une mégalopole étonnante avec ses gratte-ciels qui semblent défier les lois de l'apesanteur, ses temples tranquilles au milieu de la frénésie urbaine et ses artères débordantes de vie où commerçants et visiteurs s'agitent.
Mais Hong Kong , n 'est pas que cette image de la ville à la densité de population vertigineuse et son horizon saturé de buildings. C'est aussi des paysages de moyennes montagnes tapissées de jungle, des treks en pleine nature, des plages presque exotiques et des villages perdus, à une heure du centre-ville.
Savant mélange de culture britannique et asiatique, Hong Kong est surprenant.
Souvent, on s'y arrête le temps d'une escale avant une autre destination asiatique. Alors les heures sont comptées pour visiter la ville. Dans notre cas, nous y sommes restés 2 jours / 2 nuits. Voici un programme que l'on a optimisé au maximum afin de bien en profiter :
Jour 1 : - VICTORIA PEAK : le plus haut sommet de l'ile de Hong Kong qui offre des vues magnifiques sur la ville - TEMPLE MAN MO : un temple coup de cœur avec ses photogéniques spirales d'encens - SHEUNG WAN : un quartier sur l'ile de Hong Kong qui a su garder son authenticité. Notre quartier préféré à Hong Kong ! - FERRY ET PROMENADE SUR KOWLOON : le "must" de Hong Kong ? La traversée en bateau de la baie victoria, qui pourrait presque s'apparenter à une mini-croisière, est fabuleuse. Le quartier tout au sur de Kowloon très animé, touristique et commerçant. C'est aussi le cœur culturel de la ville avec musées et opéra.
JOUR 2 : - ÎLE LANTAU : un coin de verdure à 1h en transport en commun de Hong Kong. Une mise au vert bien sympa où on en profite pour admirer le fameux "Bouddha assis" - TEMPLE DE WONG TAI SIN : un temple magnifique de couleurs et d'harmonie, tant dans ses jardins qu'à l'intérieur des batiments. - LE MARCHÉ DE TEMPLE STREET : un immense bazar de nuit à ciel ouvert pour acheter de tout et manger sur le pouce…
Si tu veux en savoir davantage sur notre itinéraire, nos émerveillements, nos déceptions, tu peux aller voir notre article et guide complet sur Hong Kong en 2 jours.
Jour 1 : - VICTORIA PEAK : le plus haut sommet de l'ile de Hong Kong qui offre des vues magnifiques sur la ville - TEMPLE MAN MO : un temple coup de cœur avec ses photogéniques spirales d'encens - SHEUNG WAN : un quartier sur l'ile de Hong Kong qui a su garder son authenticité. Notre quartier préféré à Hong Kong ! - FERRY ET PROMENADE SUR KOWLOON : le "must" de Hong Kong ? La traversée en bateau de la baie victoria, qui pourrait presque s'apparenter à une mini-croisière, est fabuleuse. Le quartier tout au sur de Kowloon très animé, touristique et commerçant. C'est aussi le cœur culturel de la ville avec musées et opéra.
JOUR 2 : - ÎLE LANTAU : un coin de verdure à 1h en transport en commun de Hong Kong. Une mise au vert bien sympa où on en profite pour admirer le fameux "Bouddha assis" - TEMPLE DE WONG TAI SIN : un temple magnifique de couleurs et d'harmonie, tant dans ses jardins qu'à l'intérieur des batiments. - LE MARCHÉ DE TEMPLE STREET : un immense bazar de nuit à ciel ouvert pour acheter de tout et manger sur le pouce…
Si tu veux en savoir davantage sur notre itinéraire, nos émerveillements, nos déceptions, tu peux aller voir notre article et guide complet sur Hong Kong en 2 jours.
Bonjour. On a une escale de 12 h à Hong Kong le 29 août. On avait prévu d’aller visiter la ville. Est ce que cela vous semble risquer en ce moment, en raison des heurts ou des grèves possibles (pas envie de rater l’avion) ou est-ce toujours possible? Y’a t il un circuit à privilégier ou des coins à éviter? Merci d’avance.
Bonjour à vous,
Je viens de faire un premier voyage en Chine pour remercier l'aide que j'ai eu sur le forum, voici un retour. Pour une première découverte j'ai voyagé avec ma fille et nous ne sommes pas sorties des sentiers battus. Nous avons choisi d'effectuer une partie de la route de la soie.
Nous sommes arrivées par Chengdu. Nous avons logés au Lazybones, très bien et les réceptionnistes parlent bien anglais ce qui facilite cette première approche.
Nous avons pris un tour organise pour aller voir les pandas. Nous avons été surprise par le nombre de visiteurs, la foule est dense. Nous avons pu profiter des pandas bien éveillés durant la mâtinées
Le jour suivant nous sommes allées a Leshan, il pleut et nous sommes une fois de plus impressionnées par la foule de visiteurs. Nous comprenons que le voyage sera fait de visites avec une foule dense. Nous en avions entendu parler mais nous ne pensions pas que cela était aussi dense. Ce jour la nous mangeons dans un restaurant typique un coq cuisiné au wok, excellent. Nous visitons en suite le village de Huaglagin, qui est payant et plutôt bien conserve mais pas vraiment authentique.
Le lendemain nous visitons le village tibétain, qui comme celui de la veille est un village touristique avec de nombreuses boutiques. Ensuite en fin de journée nous prenons la direction de la gare pour une première expérience de train de nuit. J'ai réservé depuis la suisse les billets nous devons aller au guichet échanger les billets Chengdu Lanzhou puis ceux pour la nuit suivante Lanzhou Dunhuang. Nous sommes munis de nos passeports et des réservations effectues: echange se fait au guichet, la file est raisonnable, il faut un peu jouer des coudes.
Le train part a l'heure et les compartiments de nuit sont confortables, les draps de lit s sont fournis.
Une precisions: avoir du papier WC avec soi.
Entre ces 2 nuits de train nous visitons Lanzhou. Nous avons pu laisser nos bagages a la consigne de la gare moyennant finance. Nous sommes allées en taxi, prendre le téléphérique qui emmène vers la pagode et nous sommes redescendu tranquillement vers le Yantse. Durant cette descente nous avons vu des gens s'entrainer aux arts martiaux, ou faire du tai chi, ou aller prier a la pagode...Puis nous sommes allées manger dans un restaurant local. J'avais demande a un jeune chinois de nous écrire le nom de la gare en chinois et je l'avais prise en photo: ce qui nous a permis de les montrer au chauffeur de taxi qui nous ramène a la bonne gare.
Nuit suivante parfaite. Quand nous montons dans le train le contrôleur prend nos tickets te donne en echange une carte plastic. Cela lui permet de nous réveiller avant d'arriver a la gare et d'être prêt a descendre du train.
Dunhuang, j'avais réservé un hôtel mais il s'avère qu'ils ne peuvent pas nous recevoir. Certains hôtels ne sont pas habilités a recevoir des étrangers et donc proposent d'autres GH autorisées.
Le premier jour nous irons nous promener sur les dunes de sable et ne penser pas être seul... mais des que vous vous éloigner des axes principaux, il y a moins de monde et donc plus de calme.
Ensuite les deuxième jours nous sommes allées réserver les entrées pour les grottes de Mogao. La réservation la veille pour le lendemain est obligatoire. Puis nos avons visiter les grottes au milles bouddhas, la il y a très peu de visiteurs, elles sont moins spectaculaires que Mogao.
les grottes de Mogao sont superbes, je vous conseille d'y aller tôt le matin, il y a déjà beaucoup de monde a 8h30. Sur ces sites tant visiter tout est très bien organiser au vu du nombres de visiteurs. Ici a Mogao nous avons pu bénéficier avec d'autres étrangers d'un guide parlant anglais.
Durant ce séjour nous avons gouté le vin de Mogao, le blanc et le rouge: ils sont excellents.
De la nous partons en train rapide a Zanghie. Nous logeons au Silk road traveller. La receptionist parle très bien anglais. La GH est située a cote du marché de nuit ou se succède les stand de nourriture, tout est excellent je vous recommande les petits pains fourrés a la viande et bien d'autre chose encore. Nous visitons depuis la Mati Si un temple bouddhiste superbe. Le jour suivant nous allons un canyon puis Danxia au terre de couleurs, magnifique mais une foule énorme. Nous choisissons de rester sur le premier site pour profiter du coucher de soleil, c'est superbe.
A Zanghie nous avons profiter de voir le bouddha coucher en bois et la pagode, mais surtout c'est la douceur de vivre dans les parcs comme partout en Chine ou les gens effectuent des activités physique ou de chant de musique.
Je regrette de ne pa être rester un jour de plus a Zanghie, cela nous aurait permis d'aller voir la muraille de chine.
de la nous sommes parties pour Xi'an. Mon coup de coeur en Chine. GH Hello++, parfait. C'est après une longue journée en TGV avec des pointes à 242 km/h. Je rêvais depuis longtemps d'aller voir cette armée des soldat de terre et voila je le réalise enfin. Nous visiterons 2 fois le site, une première avec une guide et une deuxième tôt le matin pour être un peu moins nombreux et profiter di site.
A Xi'an nous sommes allées marcher sur les remparts, flâner dans un parc et voir le temple bouddhiste et divers points d'intérêt de la ville ainsi que les rue très très animée du quartier musulman ou il fait bon manger.
De la nous nous sommes rendues a Zangjiajie, sur les lieux du tournage d'Avatar. Je vous conseille de résider au village qui est au porte de l'entrée du site. le billet d'entrée est valable 4 jours, pour ceux qui aime marcher je vous conseille de rester 4 jours. Nous ne sommes restées que 2 jours et avons regretté. Certes le site est couru par les touristes chinois, ces derniers restent sur les grands axes, des que vous prenez les chemins de traverses il y a nettement moins de monde. Il faut avoir un peu de patience car les chemins ne sont pas toujours bien indiqués. Je conseille vraiment ce lieu au randonneurs et aux autres pour la beauté du site.
Nous avons ensuite rejoints en bus Fenghuang. Il faut réserver ces tickets la veille, les places sont numérotées et les bus partent a l'heure. A Fenghuang nous avons loges a la GH Wang. Lorsque vous arrivé en bus demandé qu'il organise un transport. Il nous a été difficile de trouver un taxi. C'est un jeune étudiant qui nous a aide en toute gentillesse et a appeler le propriétaire de la GH qui ne parle pas anglais pour le prévenir de notre arrivée. Nous sommes très bien accueilli meme si de nouveau personne ne parle vraiment anglais. Nous profitons de l'après midi et du lendemain matin de cette agréable ville traditionnelle au bord de la rivière.
Nous sommes allées ensuite a Chongqing rejoindre la tante d'une de mes amies chinoise. Nous avons passe de moment inoubliables en compagnie d'une famille chinoise qui nous a fait gouter un hot pot traditionnel dans un restaurant spécialisé: panse de bovin, intestin entre autre autre
Le lendemain nous pourrons faire une dégustation de the et comprendre les subtilités de la dégustation. Le soir nous ferons un repas avec des amis de cette famille dans un restaurant typique avec de mets délicatement délicieux et de nombreux toast avec du vin français
Le lendemain nous rejoignons Guilin. Nous profiterons ici aussi de la douceur de vivre. Nous irons visiter en pays Dong la ville de Sanjiang et son pot traditionnel et la maison en rond.Les paysages sont beau pour rejoindre cette ville depuis Guilin.Nous sommes allées le dimanche au marché aux fleurs et a la brocante. Nous avons effectué un tour en vélo dans la ville, mais la circulation est dense et ce n'est pas réellement agréable
Nous rejoignons Hong Kong pour les dernier jours, nous en profiterons pour aller a Macau et retour a Chengdu que nous retrouverons avec plaisir. Nous passons le dernier après-midi autour du temple de Wenshu.
Nous avons vraiment apprécié ce voyage, la gentillesse et le désir d'entre aide des chinois. Et même si la communication n'est pas toujours simple nous n'avons pas eu de difficultés pour organiser toutes nos visites. Certes les lieux touristiques sont blindés de monde mais en se levant tôt il est possible d'éviter la foule. Oui il faut parfois jouer des coudes dans les queues mais cela fait partie du voyage et quand fermement on leur fait comprendre qu'il ne faut pas doubler ils respectent.
J'ai découvert le paiement par QR code et me suis dit que nous prenions du retard ici chez nous
J'ai aime la nourriture, la possibilité de trouver des fruits coupes un peu partout.
Je reste a disposition pour toutes questions
Merci a ceux qui m'ont conseillé pour ce voyage sur ce forum
Je retournerai en Chine avec plaisir
We just spent three weeks in Yunnan.
I’ve started writing up a travel journal about the trip.
Retour sur la visite de Hangzhou à 1h de train de Shanghai.
Je recommande une journée complète. Je vous propose le tour que nous avons fait si vous aimez la marche. (Attention, cela reste de la marche citadine, avec une heure de marche nature) Ça nous a pris 9h. En approfondissant le temple, on peut passer à un 9h-19h.
Il vous faut une carte large de la ville qui va jusqu'au temple Lingyin et les montagnes proches. Nous en avons eu une dans un hôtel à Shanghai, tout en Chinois. Les panneaux et noms de rue sur place vous aideront.
Départ de notre hôtel au Nord Est du lac, à 5min de la rive. Marche vers l'ouest par le nord, sur la Bai Causeway, visite rapide du musée gratuit des sceaux, sortie par le pont Xilling. Puis direction le temple Lingyin. Je dirai 30min pour y aller depuis la fin du lac. Vous avez un trottoir ombragé tout le long. Le temple est à faire. Puis marche plein sud (par une petite route quasiment dans l'enceinte du parc du temple) sur un ou deux kilomètres jusqu'à un sentier dans la montagne qui monte en sud sud est jusqu'à un sommet à 800m je crois (ces repères c'est pour lire sur la carte). C'est une bonne montée, d'une heure je pense. Elle pique un peu mais n'est pas trop longue. Le sentier se trouvera avec une lecture fine de la carte. Il se reconnait car passé une bâtisse, on arrive avec un vrai sentier en terre, assez étroit avec un cour d'eau sur la gauche. Au bout de 5-10min vous aurez un policier en carton qui vous dira à votre passage de belles choses en chinois. Vous serez théoriquement seul sur le chemin. Pas d'indication. Arrivé en haut, des propositions de sentiers seront faites pour rejoindre notamment le village du Thé du puits du dragon (le sol est dallé). Le panorama est top et une randonnée plus longue entre les sommets au sud semble largement envisageable et chouette. Si vous allez au village, vous y serez en trente minute. On cherchera à vous faire acheter du thé frais en vous faisant goûter plusieurs sortes. Thé un peu cher (10€ les 100g, sans connaître la qualité du thé) mais l'expérience est sympa. Vous redescendez l'unique route qui mène au lac, en passant sur les sentiers latéraux qui vous montre le village, simple, historique. (Pour info, à un croisement vous aurez une grosse route qui passe dans un tunnel sous la montagne sur votre droite; vous continuez tout droit). Vous arrivez au sud ouest du lac par un mini étang intérieur et partez au Sud pour faire l'Est du lac. Soit vous remontez par la grande Su Causeway plein nord... Et repasserez ensuite par votre chemin du matin.. Soit vous faites le Sud et l'Est en vous reprochant le plus possible des berges, notamment vers la grande pagode du sud. Votre balade continuera sur la rive Est en sortant de la route pour vraiment longer le lac. Si vous y êtes en fin de journée, superbe lumière lors des passages sur les petits ponts de bois. La ville s'éclaire peu à peu, les gens sortent. Pas mal de restau. Et vous revenez à votre point de départ au nord est. Ce tour nous a bcp plus. C'est une longue marche facile, agrémentée d'une ou deux visites. Le tour en bateau sur le lac n'a pas été fait.
Si ça peut être utile...
Cf une photo de la carte qu'on avait, et une autre avec l'itinéraire suivi
Départ de notre hôtel au Nord Est du lac, à 5min de la rive. Marche vers l'ouest par le nord, sur la Bai Causeway, visite rapide du musée gratuit des sceaux, sortie par le pont Xilling. Puis direction le temple Lingyin. Je dirai 30min pour y aller depuis la fin du lac. Vous avez un trottoir ombragé tout le long. Le temple est à faire. Puis marche plein sud (par une petite route quasiment dans l'enceinte du parc du temple) sur un ou deux kilomètres jusqu'à un sentier dans la montagne qui monte en sud sud est jusqu'à un sommet à 800m je crois (ces repères c'est pour lire sur la carte). C'est une bonne montée, d'une heure je pense. Elle pique un peu mais n'est pas trop longue. Le sentier se trouvera avec une lecture fine de la carte. Il se reconnait car passé une bâtisse, on arrive avec un vrai sentier en terre, assez étroit avec un cour d'eau sur la gauche. Au bout de 5-10min vous aurez un policier en carton qui vous dira à votre passage de belles choses en chinois. Vous serez théoriquement seul sur le chemin. Pas d'indication. Arrivé en haut, des propositions de sentiers seront faites pour rejoindre notamment le village du Thé du puits du dragon (le sol est dallé). Le panorama est top et une randonnée plus longue entre les sommets au sud semble largement envisageable et chouette. Si vous allez au village, vous y serez en trente minute. On cherchera à vous faire acheter du thé frais en vous faisant goûter plusieurs sortes. Thé un peu cher (10€ les 100g, sans connaître la qualité du thé) mais l'expérience est sympa. Vous redescendez l'unique route qui mène au lac, en passant sur les sentiers latéraux qui vous montre le village, simple, historique. (Pour info, à un croisement vous aurez une grosse route qui passe dans un tunnel sous la montagne sur votre droite; vous continuez tout droit). Vous arrivez au sud ouest du lac par un mini étang intérieur et partez au Sud pour faire l'Est du lac. Soit vous remontez par la grande Su Causeway plein nord... Et repasserez ensuite par votre chemin du matin.. Soit vous faites le Sud et l'Est en vous reprochant le plus possible des berges, notamment vers la grande pagode du sud. Votre balade continuera sur la rive Est en sortant de la route pour vraiment longer le lac. Si vous y êtes en fin de journée, superbe lumière lors des passages sur les petits ponts de bois. La ville s'éclaire peu à peu, les gens sortent. Pas mal de restau. Et vous revenez à votre point de départ au nord est. Ce tour nous a bcp plus. C'est une longue marche facile, agrémentée d'une ou deux visites. Le tour en bateau sur le lac n'a pas été fait.
Si ça peut être utile...
Cf une photo de la carte qu'on avait, et une autre avec l'itinéraire suivi
Bonjour à tous
L'un d'entre vous saurait-il comment rallier Pingyao après avoir visité le temple Shaolin ?
Faut-il revenir à Xian (que j'aurais au préalable visité) ?
L'idée est de rejoindre ensuite Datong puis Pékin.
Merci à tous ceux qui pourront m'aider
Christine
Bonjour!
10ème voyage en Chine dans quelques jours!! Et donc autant de fois à Beijing! C'est dire que j'ai visité la plupart (pour ne pas dire tous) des sites de la capitale, voire plusieurs fois pour certains!😉
Aussi cette fois je voudrais "sortir" de Beijing, et me promener dans un ou deux villages (s'il en existe encore..) hors de Beijing mais à pas plus de 1h30 voire 2 heures de Beijing.
En ce qui concerne les villages j'ai regardé un peu sur Internet et j'ai trouvé:
Jiuyua, Sanliushui, Beiji, lingshui, Chuangdixia, Beigou, lequel privilégier qui soit encore (si c'est possible!) un peu "authentique"et à2h maximum deBeijing? Si vous en avez d'autres à proposer...
Hormis les villages je compte me rendre à Jinshaling, est-ce accessible ?(travaux terminés?)La muraille à Jinshaling est-elle facilement praticable comme Badaling ou Mutianyu? Merci!
Hormis les villages je compte me rendre à Jinshaling, est-ce accessible ?(travaux terminés?)La muraille à Jinshaling est-elle facilement praticable comme Badaling ou Mutianyu? Merci!
Bonjour,
Suite à une annulation et à un report de vol, nous allons transformer une simple escale à Shanghai en vraie visite de la ville. Nous aurons journée et demie pour naviguer dans la mégalopole, fin octobre.
Nous aimerions monter dans la tour Shanghai, mais je trouve peu d'infos. Est-il plus chouette d'y aller de jour ou de nuit? Avez-vous réservé longtemps à l'avance? Par ailleurs, où peut-on acheter des tickets en ligne? Je n'ai pas trouvé de site officiel. Mêmes questions pour la Perle de l'orient.
Par ailleurs, en dehors des Yu Garden et du Bund, quels lieux vous semblent incontournables?
Est-ce que prendre une chambre d'hôtel du côté de Nanjin East Road vous semble un bon choix?
Merci d'avance pour vos conseils.
Suite à une annulation et à un report de vol, nous allons transformer une simple escale à Shanghai en vraie visite de la ville. Nous aurons journée et demie pour naviguer dans la mégalopole, fin octobre.
Nous aimerions monter dans la tour Shanghai, mais je trouve peu d'infos. Est-il plus chouette d'y aller de jour ou de nuit? Avez-vous réservé longtemps à l'avance? Par ailleurs, où peut-on acheter des tickets en ligne? Je n'ai pas trouvé de site officiel. Mêmes questions pour la Perle de l'orient.
Par ailleurs, en dehors des Yu Garden et du Bund, quels lieux vous semblent incontournables?
Est-ce que prendre une chambre d'hôtel du côté de Nanjin East Road vous semble un bon choix?
Merci d'avance pour vos conseils.
Hello everyone,
I’m planning a 5-week trip between Yunnan and Sichuan from mid-October to the end of November 2026: Arriving in Kunming, I’ll do a loop in the far south of Yunnan via Thonghai, Jhiansu, Zhemi, Yuanyang, Nafa, Jinping, Mengzi, and Shilin (visiting markets, villages, and hiking), then head to northern Yunnan/southern Sichuan on the same theme (passing through Kunming again) via Dongchuan, Huize, Qiaojia, Puge, Xichang, Lanba, Butuo, Huolie, Dimo, Riha, Niuniuba, Meigu, Mabian, and Leshan, before arriving in Chengdu (where I’ll take my return flight to Paris). This would be a trip with a strong ethnic/rural focus. Since I’ve never traveled in China, I’d love to hear your thoughts on doing this solo. Are there public transport options in the region? What tips do you have for traveling through this area as smoothly and enjoyably as possible? I’ve done quite a bit of backpacking in the mountains of northern Vietnam and really enjoyed using local motorbike drivers. Is something like that available in this region (through local tourist agencies or hotels)?
What should I be cautious about? Are local tourist agencies (or hotels) offering tours and guides reliable? If you know of any specialized sites sharing tips or experiences, or names of local agencies, hotels, etc., please don’t hesitate to share them! :)
In short, all your advice (on any topic that comes to mind!) is very welcome. Thanks so much!
I’m planning a 5-week trip between Yunnan and Sichuan from mid-October to the end of November 2026: Arriving in Kunming, I’ll do a loop in the far south of Yunnan via Thonghai, Jhiansu, Zhemi, Yuanyang, Nafa, Jinping, Mengzi, and Shilin (visiting markets, villages, and hiking), then head to northern Yunnan/southern Sichuan on the same theme (passing through Kunming again) via Dongchuan, Huize, Qiaojia, Puge, Xichang, Lanba, Butuo, Huolie, Dimo, Riha, Niuniuba, Meigu, Mabian, and Leshan, before arriving in Chengdu (where I’ll take my return flight to Paris). This would be a trip with a strong ethnic/rural focus. Since I’ve never traveled in China, I’d love to hear your thoughts on doing this solo. Are there public transport options in the region? What tips do you have for traveling through this area as smoothly and enjoyably as possible? I’ve done quite a bit of backpacking in the mountains of northern Vietnam and really enjoyed using local motorbike drivers. Is something like that available in this region (through local tourist agencies or hotels)?
What should I be cautious about? Are local tourist agencies (or hotels) offering tours and guides reliable? If you know of any specialized sites sharing tips or experiences, or names of local agencies, hotels, etc., please don’t hesitate to share them! :)
In short, all your advice (on any topic that comes to mind!) is very welcome. Thanks so much!
Bonjour tout le monde,
Au cours de notre prochaine croisière, il est prévu une escale assez courte à Shekou, et je pense à visiter le Splendid China Park.
Pourriez-vous, pour ceux qui connaissent et ont peut-être déjà visité ce park, me donner votre avis - intérêt de la visite, possibilité d'y aller seuls, distance par rapport au terminal de croisière ?
L'excursion est proposée par MSC, mais le prix me semble assez élevé..
Merci par avance de vos avis et conseils, et bonne journée à tous
Yael
Yael
Bonjour,
j'ai mon billet d'avion : du 1er avril 2020 (Ji'nan) au 19 avril (Xi'an)
Reste à savoir ce que je veux en faire... Pour le Shandong, je me disais 2-3/04 : visite de Jinan 4/04 : Taishan et nuit à Tai shan 5/04 : visite et nuit Qufu Le 6/04, partir vers Kaifeng.
Qu'en pensez-vous ?
Merci beaucoup par avance, FB
j'ai mon billet d'avion : du 1er avril 2020 (Ji'nan) au 19 avril (Xi'an)
Reste à savoir ce que je veux en faire... Pour le Shandong, je me disais 2-3/04 : visite de Jinan 4/04 : Taishan et nuit à Tai shan 5/04 : visite et nuit Qufu Le 6/04, partir vers Kaifeng.
Qu'en pensez-vous ?
Merci beaucoup par avance, FB
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to China for two at the beginning of April and want to spend 2 nights in the Longji Rice Terraces—either in Dazhai, Tiantouzhaï, or Ping'an. I’ve seen that most of the hotels are made of bamboo, and you can hear every little noise. Since my husband is a very light sleeper, he’d really like to be sure he’ll get a good night’s rest. Can you recommend any quiet, well-soundproofed hotels in the area?
Thanks in advance! !
We’re planning a trip to China for two at the beginning of April and want to spend 2 nights in the Longji Rice Terraces—either in Dazhai, Tiantouzhaï, or Ping'an. I’ve seen that most of the hotels are made of bamboo, and you can hear every little noise. Since my husband is a very light sleeper, he’d really like to be sure he’ll get a good night’s rest. Can you recommend any quiet, well-soundproofed hotels in the area?
Thanks in advance! !
Hi there,
A quick recap of our 19-day trip to China – classic itinerary, half-family: dad and 13-year-old son, August 2025.
Arrived in Shanghai, the idea was to explore the city in the evening to help with jet lag. Day 1: Maglev (50 CNY), then metro to the hotel, night cruise on the Huangpu River, admiring the skyline. Day 2: Yuyuan Garden (meh), Lujiazui district, sunset from the top of Jinmao Tower, stroll along the Bund, admiring the skyline. Day 3: Chaos at the Shanghai Museum – should’ve booked in advance. Backup plan: Longhua Temple (nice), Tianzi Fang district (great). Day 4: Aquarium (okay), Pearl Tower, Fake Market (top), then flight to Guilin. Taxi from Guilin to Yangshuo (400 CNY arranged by the hotel). Verdict: Maybe one day too many. Late mornings (jet lag) kept us from visiting the water town. Day 5: Yangshuo – scooter ride (40 CNY) along the Yulong River. Day 6: Early Didi (30 min) to the top of Xiang Gong Shan (ideally for sunrise). Then a walk through the countryside to the Li River, crossing by boat (10 CNY) to Xingping. You can shorten the walk by flagging down a mini-shuttle that shuttles Chinese tourists in the opposite direction. Explored Xingping, scooter ride, 20 CNY viewpoint, sunset from Laozhai Hill, back to Yangshuo. Day 7: Scooter ride to spots we missed on Day 5. Verdict: It’s stunning. Might be worth staying in Guilin the first night and booking a cruise to Yangshuo the next day on the Li River. Day 8: Bus (4/5h, 100 CNY) to Longji/Dazhai. Hotel in Tianzhouzai – I think it’s better to stay in Ping’an, it’s more typical. Dazhai is generally overdeveloped. Day 9: Full-day hike from Dazhai to Ping’an, then bus back to Dazhai. Super nice walk, only crossed paths with 4 people. Day 10: Walk around the top of Dazhai, but the trails are poorly maintained – no loop possible. Verdict: Gorgeous, probably one day too many, but the area is very rainy, so it’s good to have a buffer. Day 11: Private taxi (4/5h, 200 €) to Fenghuang. Explored the town in the evening – really nice. Day 12: Short visit to Fenghuang during the day, then train to Zhangjiajie and Wulingyuan. Hotel pool. Day 13: Early start: Zhangjiajie Park via Wulingyuan entrance, Route A (starting with the cable car). Fabulous. If I did it again, I’d take Route B to get early access to the section near the giant elevator. Day 14: Early start: Zhangjiajie Park via the south entrance – superb. Day 15: Wulingyuan Grand Canyon, glass bridge – nice but not essential. Day 16: Tianmen Mountain in the afternoon. You can leave your luggage at the entrance. Routes A and B sell out quickly. Note that Route C no longer uses buses to the top – there’s a brand-new cable car instead, which I think is actually better than A and B. Really nice, worth doing. Evening flight to Beijing. Verdict: The canyon could be done the same morning as Tianmen Mountain, or even skipped. Day 17: Visited the Forbidden City (book a week in advance!), missed the entry slot for Tiananmen Square (book in advance!) due to security checks. Visited the Lama Temple. Stayed in a hutong. Day 18: Great Wall at Mutianyu. Private taxi (100 € round trip – probably overpaid) to arrive before 7 AM. Then back to Beijing, Temple of Heaven, and finally the modest skyline from the mall at Guomao metro station. Day 19: Fake markets (pointless – they’re stripped of their usual goods compared to Shanghai’s), Summer Palace, then Wangfujing Street. Headed to the airport. Verdict: 3 days is too short for Beijing.
Overall impressions: Highlights: Incredible places (cities and landscapes), often vast and fascinating, a total change of scenery. Very easy and smooth to travel despite the clear language barrier. Excellent food, very affordable, very few scams. Lowlights: Intense heat and humidity in August, *way* too many tourists (99.9% Chinese), a real circus that makes the trip exhausting. Walking is tiring in the long run (even though we’re very active) because it’s all on stone paths and stairs. To avoid crowds, you’d need to wake up early every day – tough with kids, especially with jet lag.
Logistics: - Buses and private taxis arranged last-minute through hotels. - Didi is widely available everywhere, plentiful, and cheap. - Flights and trains booked on Trip.com a month in advance (fills up fast). - Hotels on Booking and Trip.com. Only the one in Yangshuo was booked well in advance – hotel capacity is huge everywhere. - Apps: Didi, Alipay, WeChat, Maps.me, Google Translate. Free 35 GB data plan, SIM card from the airport.
A quick recap of our 19-day trip to China – classic itinerary, half-family: dad and 13-year-old son, August 2025.
Arrived in Shanghai, the idea was to explore the city in the evening to help with jet lag. Day 1: Maglev (50 CNY), then metro to the hotel, night cruise on the Huangpu River, admiring the skyline. Day 2: Yuyuan Garden (meh), Lujiazui district, sunset from the top of Jinmao Tower, stroll along the Bund, admiring the skyline. Day 3: Chaos at the Shanghai Museum – should’ve booked in advance. Backup plan: Longhua Temple (nice), Tianzi Fang district (great). Day 4: Aquarium (okay), Pearl Tower, Fake Market (top), then flight to Guilin. Taxi from Guilin to Yangshuo (400 CNY arranged by the hotel). Verdict: Maybe one day too many. Late mornings (jet lag) kept us from visiting the water town. Day 5: Yangshuo – scooter ride (40 CNY) along the Yulong River. Day 6: Early Didi (30 min) to the top of Xiang Gong Shan (ideally for sunrise). Then a walk through the countryside to the Li River, crossing by boat (10 CNY) to Xingping. You can shorten the walk by flagging down a mini-shuttle that shuttles Chinese tourists in the opposite direction. Explored Xingping, scooter ride, 20 CNY viewpoint, sunset from Laozhai Hill, back to Yangshuo. Day 7: Scooter ride to spots we missed on Day 5. Verdict: It’s stunning. Might be worth staying in Guilin the first night and booking a cruise to Yangshuo the next day on the Li River. Day 8: Bus (4/5h, 100 CNY) to Longji/Dazhai. Hotel in Tianzhouzai – I think it’s better to stay in Ping’an, it’s more typical. Dazhai is generally overdeveloped. Day 9: Full-day hike from Dazhai to Ping’an, then bus back to Dazhai. Super nice walk, only crossed paths with 4 people. Day 10: Walk around the top of Dazhai, but the trails are poorly maintained – no loop possible. Verdict: Gorgeous, probably one day too many, but the area is very rainy, so it’s good to have a buffer. Day 11: Private taxi (4/5h, 200 €) to Fenghuang. Explored the town in the evening – really nice. Day 12: Short visit to Fenghuang during the day, then train to Zhangjiajie and Wulingyuan. Hotel pool. Day 13: Early start: Zhangjiajie Park via Wulingyuan entrance, Route A (starting with the cable car). Fabulous. If I did it again, I’d take Route B to get early access to the section near the giant elevator. Day 14: Early start: Zhangjiajie Park via the south entrance – superb. Day 15: Wulingyuan Grand Canyon, glass bridge – nice but not essential. Day 16: Tianmen Mountain in the afternoon. You can leave your luggage at the entrance. Routes A and B sell out quickly. Note that Route C no longer uses buses to the top – there’s a brand-new cable car instead, which I think is actually better than A and B. Really nice, worth doing. Evening flight to Beijing. Verdict: The canyon could be done the same morning as Tianmen Mountain, or even skipped. Day 17: Visited the Forbidden City (book a week in advance!), missed the entry slot for Tiananmen Square (book in advance!) due to security checks. Visited the Lama Temple. Stayed in a hutong. Day 18: Great Wall at Mutianyu. Private taxi (100 € round trip – probably overpaid) to arrive before 7 AM. Then back to Beijing, Temple of Heaven, and finally the modest skyline from the mall at Guomao metro station. Day 19: Fake markets (pointless – they’re stripped of their usual goods compared to Shanghai’s), Summer Palace, then Wangfujing Street. Headed to the airport. Verdict: 3 days is too short for Beijing.
Overall impressions: Highlights: Incredible places (cities and landscapes), often vast and fascinating, a total change of scenery. Very easy and smooth to travel despite the clear language barrier. Excellent food, very affordable, very few scams. Lowlights: Intense heat and humidity in August, *way* too many tourists (99.9% Chinese), a real circus that makes the trip exhausting. Walking is tiring in the long run (even though we’re very active) because it’s all on stone paths and stairs. To avoid crowds, you’d need to wake up early every day – tough with kids, especially with jet lag.
Logistics: - Buses and private taxis arranged last-minute through hotels. - Didi is widely available everywhere, plentiful, and cheap. - Flights and trains booked on Trip.com a month in advance (fills up fast). - Hotels on Booking and Trip.com. Only the one in Yangshuo was booked well in advance – hotel capacity is huge everywhere. - Apps: Didi, Alipay, WeChat, Maps.me, Google Translate. Free 35 GB data plan, SIM card from the airport.
Hi everyone,
We're currently planning our itinerary for this summer (late July - August) in China. Our travel style is more backpacker-oriented—we're used to traveling in Latin America, booking things just 3 days in advance. Could you share your thoughts on this route?
We’re particularly wondering about: - Yangshuo (which seems very touristy) → Xingping instead? The park Bajiaozhai? - How to get around and find accommodation in the small Miao and Dong villages? - Should we book trains and hotels in advance for late July and early August?
Thanks so much!
28-Jul Monday Kunming: Bamboo Temple Dian Chi Lake Kunming 29-Jul Tuesday Visit the city center Lake bike tour Dali Dali 30-Jul Wednesday Three Pagodas / Cangshan Mountain Dali Dali 31-Jul Thursday Transport to Shaxi - visit 1 - Dali Old Town Coach Station (大理古城客运站) 2 - Arrive Jianchuan Coach Station 3 - Local green or yellow minibuses to Shaxi Dali → Jianchuan → Shaxi Shaxi 01-Aug Friday Quick visit Shaxi → Lijiang Shaxi Shaxi 02-Aug Saturday Quick visit Shaxi → Lijiang Shaxi Lijiang 03-Aug Sunday Tiger Leaping Gorge trek 04-Aug Monday Tiger Leaping Gorge Qiatou Lijiang / Dali 05-Aug Tuesday Dali → Kunming → Kaili Full-day transport Kaili 06-Aug Wednesday Langde Miao Village - Xijiang Miao Village Kaili 07-Aug Thursday Visit village Kaili 08-Aug Friday Visit village Zhaoxing 09-Aug Saturday AM: Train to Guilin - PM: Elephant Trunk Hill / night barbecue Zhaoxing → Guilin (1h) Guilin 10-Aug Sunday Bajiaozhai (Park / hike) Ziyuan 11-Aug Monday Bajiaozhai (Park / hike) Ziyuan 12-Aug Tuesday Yangshuo Yangshuo 13-Aug Wednesday Yangshuo Yangshuo 14-Aug Thursday Yangshuo Yangshuo 15-Aug Friday Guilin → HK (3.5h) Guilin → HK (3.5h) 16-Aug Saturday Hong Kong
We're currently planning our itinerary for this summer (late July - August) in China. Our travel style is more backpacker-oriented—we're used to traveling in Latin America, booking things just 3 days in advance. Could you share your thoughts on this route?
We’re particularly wondering about: - Yangshuo (which seems very touristy) → Xingping instead? The park Bajiaozhai? - How to get around and find accommodation in the small Miao and Dong villages? - Should we book trains and hotels in advance for late July and early August?
Thanks so much!
28-Jul Monday Kunming: Bamboo Temple Dian Chi Lake Kunming 29-Jul Tuesday Visit the city center Lake bike tour Dali Dali 30-Jul Wednesday Three Pagodas / Cangshan Mountain Dali Dali 31-Jul Thursday Transport to Shaxi - visit 1 - Dali Old Town Coach Station (大理古城客运站) 2 - Arrive Jianchuan Coach Station 3 - Local green or yellow minibuses to Shaxi Dali → Jianchuan → Shaxi Shaxi 01-Aug Friday Quick visit Shaxi → Lijiang Shaxi Shaxi 02-Aug Saturday Quick visit Shaxi → Lijiang Shaxi Lijiang 03-Aug Sunday Tiger Leaping Gorge trek 04-Aug Monday Tiger Leaping Gorge Qiatou Lijiang / Dali 05-Aug Tuesday Dali → Kunming → Kaili Full-day transport Kaili 06-Aug Wednesday Langde Miao Village - Xijiang Miao Village Kaili 07-Aug Thursday Visit village Kaili 08-Aug Friday Visit village Zhaoxing 09-Aug Saturday AM: Train to Guilin - PM: Elephant Trunk Hill / night barbecue Zhaoxing → Guilin (1h) Guilin 10-Aug Sunday Bajiaozhai (Park / hike) Ziyuan 11-Aug Monday Bajiaozhai (Park / hike) Ziyuan 12-Aug Tuesday Yangshuo Yangshuo 13-Aug Wednesday Yangshuo Yangshuo 14-Aug Thursday Yangshuo Yangshuo 15-Aug Friday Guilin → HK (3.5h) Guilin → HK (3.5h) 16-Aug Saturday Hong Kong
Bonjour
Je suis en train de planfier mon voyage au Yunnan en Chine, je voudrais chercher une agence de voyage pour m'aider.
J ai trouvé un site d une agence : voyagesyunnan.com, quelq un le sait ? est-il fiable ? ou vous pouvez me recommander une ?
Merci 😛
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Bonjour,
J'ai un peu chercher, mais je n'ai trouvé aucune info récente sur ce sujet...
Est-il possible de rejoindre Taiwan en ferry depuis la Chine?
Si oui, depuis quelle ville, et surtout comment réserver?
Merci d'avance pour votre aide!
J'ai un peu chercher, mais je n'ai trouvé aucune info récente sur ce sujet...
Est-il possible de rejoindre Taiwan en ferry depuis la Chine?
Si oui, depuis quelle ville, et surtout comment réserver?
Merci d'avance pour votre aide!
Que faire durant une journée à passer autour de Tangkou (autre que Hongcun et Xidi et les Huangshan déjà fait)
Nous sommes à 4 et avons une journée à passer que nous voudrions cool. Exemple en bus vers une destination pas trop loin de Tangkou et faire une balade à pied ou vélo durant la journée et retour vers Tangkou le soir. Départ le lendemain pour Tunxi puis Suzhou pour finir le séjour (programme déjà pratiquement bouclé)
Merci pour vos reponses
Joachim
Hi everyone,
This trip report covers a journey along the Silk Road in China (see detailed description below) undertaken in October 2025. The goal isn’t to recount the trip but to provide information that might help those who want to take a similar journey. Much of the information is valid for any trip to China.
Who we are: a retired couple, aged 63 and 65 (age gives discounts on entry to various sites and museums in China, which is why I won’t list prices here—I don’t know them, but you can easily find them online). We’re used to traveling independently. We speak English, which is the only foreign language spoken in China, though by very few people. I speak and read a little Chinese, which helped, but you can easily get by without it (without any English at all, I think it would be more difficult).
Period: We arrived just after "Golden Week," when all of China is on vacation, and after the summer, when schools are out, so we encountered very few tourists (99.99% of whom were Chinese). Our experience with booking visits in advance (which we didn’t need to do) isn’t representative for those who want to travel in the summer! The October-November period was perfect for our trip—it wasn’t too hot or too cold (one day of snow on the Tibetan Plateau), though it was only a few degrees on the Tibetan part, with altitudes between 2,000 and 3,000 meters. The trees were beautifully colored.
General remarks: Everyone we dealt with was very kind and perfectly honest. If you order a meal without really understanding what to do and the person modifies your order, trust them—the result is what you need. If a taxi driver signals that they’ll wait for you to finish your visit and pick you up afterward, trust them. It means there aren’t many taxis where you are, and it’ll be more convenient. For prices at street vendors, we always found the right ballpark, and sometimes they even added a little extra to please us. A taxi driver treated us to lunch, and an employee drove us back to the hotel after a visit because there were no taxis. If you struggle to buy a ticket online because there’s no counter, someone will come to help. People even spontaneously ask if everything’s okay and if you need anything.
Everywhere we went was very clean, including restrooms (trains, stations, hotels, museums, tourist sites) and streets. The old stereotypes about this no longer apply.
The trip can be challenging for those who have difficulty walking. The distances to cover on foot in stations, to access sites, and within the sites themselves can sometimes be really long.
We used the Lonely Planet guide in English (published at the end of August 2025) a little for preparation, but mostly relied on the internet.
Before leaving: No visa is needed for French citizens for stays under 30 days. You get a stamp on your passport upon arrival and departure, and the formalities themselves are very quick in both directions (excluding any potential queues). Just a photo and fingerprints upon arrival, and welcome to China’s facial recognition system.
Money: All your payments (see below) will go through your Visa card—there will be hundreds, including many payments of 20 cents to a few euros. So, you need an international option that allows unlimited card transactions. Since cash is rarely needed, the allowed number of ATM withdrawals can be low. We made 3 withdrawals totaling 800 € for a month and could have managed with just 2. The exchange rate charged on our Visa card was 12 € for 100 RMB (yuan).
Install the following apps on your smartphone before leaving (otherwise, you’ll only have access to the Chinese versions, if available): - Alipay, which is used to pay everywhere in China (details below). You need to link it to your credit card, then provide proof of identity by uploading a passport photo and completing a facial recognition session. Alipay gives access to Didi (China’s Uber), public transport (metro/bus), and can also translate phrases. - WeChat (Weixin in Chinese, pronounced *weishin*), which is also used for payments but also replaces WhatsApp. Unfortunately, to activate your account, you need someone who already has WeChat to sponsor you (preferably a Chinese person). We asked someone at our first accommodations to do this—no problem. By sharing your WeChat number with accommodations, they can send you messages that are automatically translated, and you can communicate with people thanks to the translation (translation to French is very poor; it’s much better in English, but unfortunately, WeChat detects your phone’s language). Alipay and WeChat are accepted almost everywhere, but some places only accept WeChat. - Amap, the international version of Baidu Maps, which replaces Google Maps (not at all up-to-date in China). The English names of hotels often have little to do with the Chinese names except for a phonetic resemblance. To find them on Amap, it’s best to copy the Chinese name found on your Trip reservation under "show address in Chinese." - A VPN. We had CyberGhost, which didn’t work, but according to other travelers, NordVPN and Windscribe do. Without a VPN, you can’t access Google services, on WhatsApp you can send and receive text but not photos, and you can’t send or receive emails on Gmail addresses. We managed without a VPN by using Firefox as a browser and Bing as a search engine. - Trip, for booking trains and accommodations, and buying some tickets. It’s the equivalent of Booking for accommodations, but Booking has very few listings in China, while Trip has hundreds in every city. Most hotels and trains are exchangeable and refundable until the day before, with no or minimal fees.
You don’t need contactless (NFC) payment on your phone. Either you scan a barcode and enter the amount to pay, or you display a barcode, and they scan it with a scanner, and the amount is deducted directly.
Upon arrival: - Buy a Chinese SIM card: 100 RMB for 300 GB of data and several hours of talk time (we didn’t use it). Set the Chinese number as a reference on Alipay, WeChat, and Amap. - Find someone to sponsor you on WeChat.
Transportation: - **Plane**: China Eastern, Paris-Canton then Canton-Urumqi on the way out, and Xian-Canton then Canton-Paris on the way back. International flights were smooth, but the schedules for the two domestic flights were changed. It was fine on the way out because we had some leeway, but on the way back, we were notified the morning of that our flight was canceled and replaced with one that didn’t allow for the connection. We called and changed to an earlier flight (I think we were lucky to find available seats). - **Train**: Most long distances were covered by high-speed trains (called D or G in China) at 240 or 300 km/h. Second class is perfect—just as comfortable and clean as our TGVs. The only advantage of first class is the wider seats for larger people, but the downside is that seats are often booked in advance and thus less available. You can book trains long in advance on Trip, but they only go on sale in China 15 days before departure, so that’s when you’ll know if you have a ticket. Initially, we booked first class, but there were no seats available on the day, so we ended up booking everything in second class, which was perfect. There’s no paper ticket—if you’ve bought one, you go to the station, show your passport, and enter. You do the same to access the platform 15 minutes before the train, and that’s it. Our train was canceled twice, but no problem—we went to the ticket counter, got a refund, and were offered a replacement. It didn’t delay us by more than an hour (maybe it would be harder in peak season). For prices, check Trip.com, but it’s significantly cheaper than in France. - **Bus**: We took the bus between Xining and Tongren, Tongren to Xiahe, and Hezuo to Lanzhou—about 3 hours each time for 200 km, 6 € per person, and departures were right on time. - **Taxi**: For trips between the station and hotel, or hotel and visits. If you take a Didi via the Alipay app, you activate your location, enter your destination, and it offers several taxis. You accept, and you get the car’s license plate and its real-time position on the map. When you get in, the driver often asks for the last four digits of your phone number to confirm. Otherwise, you go to the taxi stand outside the station. The price per kilometer is around 20 cents, so for a 30 km trip from the station to the hotel, you’ll pay about 6 €. We never tried to save more by taking local buses, but since the metro in Xian costs 25 cents per trip, it’s probably in the same ballpark. Amap provides public transport routes like Google Maps. - **Driver**: We hired a taxi/driver for the day several times for sightseeing. Prices ranged from 350 to 1,000 RMB (the most expensive was arranged through the Sofitel Xining concierge) for trips ranging from a few hours to a full day, sometimes covering over 300 km (see the detailed trip description).
Accommodations: All booked in advance on Trip, but several were changed during the trip. Off-season, there were no issues. We mostly stayed in upscale places, but in China, that means 50 to 60 € per night in the most central or convenient neighborhood. Note: Almost all hotels have a 5/5 rating on Trip, but it seems the Chinese avoid giving lower ratings to be polite. So, you have to read the comments to realize that in France, we might have given a 2 or 3!
Food: At the table, you’re served hot water or a hot infusion, presumably made with purified water. We never got sick from drinking it, but don’t drink tap water. Purified or mineral water is easy to find.
In restaurants, you can manage by pointing to the dish you want from another diner, on the wall where there are photos, or on the menu with pictures. The food in the region isn’t often spicy, and people usually ask or signal before adding the red spicy sauce, so you should be able to handle it if you don’t like chili at all.
The "fake old quarters" in several cities are great places to find all kinds of restaurants (see detailed trip below).
Like Google Maps, Amap can show you nearby restaurants.
Shopping: For dried fruits, buy them in Turfan—you won’t find the same variety and quality even in Xian. Generally, if you like something, buy it. If you wait, you might not find it outside the region where you are.
In Xian, there’s a "Tea City" where you can find all kinds of tea (from cheap to very expensive).
The trip in more detail: I won’t dwell on the beauty or interest of the sites here since that’s a matter of personal taste. However, I will do so for lesser-known places to give an idea to those who might be interested.
For many sites, there are shuttles (sometimes not included in the ticket price but costing around 1 €) that take you to the interesting spots. We always took them—it saves you from walking past countless shops or along uninteresting paths.
- **Urumqi**: We spent only one night there, arriving in the middle of the afternoon and leaving the next morning. We stayed at the Dana Hotel in the bazaar. Given the size of the city, it’s a good option because I don’t think there are many other interesting places. The bazaar is brand new and not at all "typical" (Turfan’s bazaar is infinitely more interesting), but the dining area is very nice.
- **Turfan**: Stayed at the New Dap Hostel, which was great. The neighborhood is nice, not far from the city, and easy to find food. The museum is closed until 2026 (Amap provides museum hours and closures). We took a day trip (for the two of us) with a driver to the Bezeklik Caves, Flaming Mountains, the abandoned city of Gaochang, the Tuyuk Village Museum, and the Emin Minaret for 500 RMB from 9 AM to 8 PM (arranged by the hostel). The landscape during the excursion was quite fabulous. We also visited the Karez Museum and the abandoned city of Jiaohe on our own the next day. At this time of year, the sun sets around 6 PM, and there’s often haze after 5 PM, so for Jiaohe, for example, which takes about 3 hours to visit, it’s best to be there by 1 or 2 PM at the latest.
The Dahua Market area is perfect for dried fruits (including the famous grapes), and you can eat there among locals in their traditional costumes. Next to it, there are buildings full of shops selling made-in-China items—it kept us busy for a good half-day, if not more.
- **Dunhuang**: Stayed in a guesthouse near the dunes—the city center isn’t far but seems quite artificial. Visited the dunes, with a ticket valid for 3 days. Lots of Chinese tourists—very typical and interesting from an ethnological perspective 😊. We got up early one morning to climb the highest dune, just beyond the one everyone goes to. It’s a bit long and tiring, but the view is worth it. Visited the Mogao Caves, buying the ticket on-site (no chance in season without booking in advance). We met two other French people and got a French-speaking guide (by pretending not to understand English). It was really worth it—a group of 4 instead of 20, and they took their time (2 hours) for the visit. We took a day trip to the Yulin Caves (2.5 hours by road and 160 km one way) with a driver for 350 RMB. We liked it a lot, but if the Mogao Caves are enough for you, it’s not very different.
- **Jiayuguan**: Stayed in a city-center hotel. Visited the Wei and Jin tombs (actually just one)—that’s where we were told the taxi should wait to take us back to the city. We went down into a crypt with lots of decorated bricks from the 3rd century. We really liked it, but it’s not as spectacular as the fort if you’re not a fan. Visited the Jiayuguan Fort and, with the same ticket, climbed a small section of the Great Wall 10 km away. Plan at least 3 good hours for all this—there’s plenty to see.
- **Zhangye**: Stayed at The Silk Road Travelers Hostel, rustic but very nice and organizes excursions. Visited the Danxia (colored mountains)—just as spectacular as the photos. You can easily spend 3 hours there, so plan to finish before sunset to avoid the haze (you can always stay longer for the sunset if the weather’s nice). The next day, visited the Mati Si Temple in the cliff. The 10,000 Buddha Caves are under renovation, but the setting and the main temple are well worth the visit (the paths through the cliff tunnels must be hellish in peak season). You can probably organize these two excursions yourself by asking any taxi driver. Also visited the Giant Buddha Temple in the city center—really worth it.
- **Xining**: Stayed in a city-center hotel. Visited the Tibetan Medicine Museum to see the world’s largest thangka (1 km long), made over 40 years by renowned artists. It’s absolutely magnificent, on par with the virtuosity (but over 1 km) of the thangkas painted by famous artists in Xiahe (see below). Hired a female taxi driver for the day to visit Kumbum Monastery (Ta’er Si in Chinese) and the Danxia area in Guide, 50 km beyond the monastery. It’s less spectacular than Zhangye’s Danxia, but we really liked it (including the journey’s landscape). The next day, visited the old Ming-era Qutan Monastery—no visitors, with beautiful murals (half under renovation). Accessible by train to Haidong or Ledu, then a taxi. Xining’s mosque is of no interest, but there’s a pedestrian street with food stalls nearby that’s very nice.
- **Tongren**: Stayed near the main monastery. Visited Longwu Monastery (several hours), with lots of nice shops along the street leading to it. Then visited Wutun Monastery, which is less lively but beautiful and close to thangka workshops. You can go in and watch the painters at work. For a thangka made by a renowned artist, count about a year of work for 1 m² and around 10,000 €.
- **Xiahe**: Stayed in a city-center hotel. Visited Labrang Monastery—very nice but not as much as Tongren’s because many halls were closed. I think it’s better to go in season and take an English-guided tour (but it’s still worth the trip, even off-season).
- **Langmusi**: Took a taxi, but you can also take a bus (though very early in the morning and longer). Particularly beautiful for us because we woke up to bright sunshine and 5 cm of snow everywhere. Visited the two temples (really nice) and did the classic hike in the gorges starting at the Fairy Cave. For those interested, we continued along the canyon path, and after the meadow where marmots are clearly visible in summer, we climbed toward a pass on the left at 3,800 meters. The view of Langmusi and, above all, the vast grasslands and distant mountains was fabulous (3 hours round trip from the temple). You could probably reach the 4,000-meter summit by continuing up the valley instead of turning left, but according to guides, it’s better to count 7 hours round trip (no technical difficulty). You can leave Langmusi by bus, but off-season, you first have to take a taxi to a stop outside the city and wait for the bus. We didn’t try and took a taxi to Hezuo instead.
Note on this region: A high-speed train is under construction from Xining to Langmusi and beyond (never seen such an impressive construction site!). When it’s operational (in one or two years, I think), access to the area will be revolutionized, and perhaps some of the charm will be lost.
- **Hezuo**: Stopped on the way from Langmusi to Lanzhou. Visited the Milarepa Pagoda, entirely destroyed during the Cultural Revolution and since rebuilt. We liked it since we were passing through, but it doesn’t necessarily justify a long detour.
- **Lanzhou**: Reached by one of the many buses from Hezuo. Stayed in the "fake old quarter," which is extremely pleasant, especially in the evening with restaurants, groups of Chinese women dancing to loud music, etc. Visited Bingling Si with a driver, 120 km away—the landscape and site are absolutely magnificent, with no one around at our time of year. Visited the Gansu Museum (where the famous Flying Horse is, but it’s a replica). We bought the ticket on entry, but in season, you probably need to book in advance.
- **Yinchuan**: Stayed in the city center. A city we discovered by chance in the Lonely Planet—worth it if you have time. On the way, we stopped for a few hours in Zhongwei, where there’s an incredible Taoist temple (I’ll let you be surprised). Visited the Western Xia tombs—we took the short option, which visits Tomb 3. We think the others are similar but less impressive. The surrounding landscape and site are quite spectacular. Visited the film sets (really fun if you like Chinese movies), the short but interesting Ningxia Museum, and finally the modern art museum. The architecture is avant-garde, and there are some beautiful works (we like it, but it’s far from the center—hire a driver who waits, or you might have to wait for an employee to offer a ride back).
- **Tianshui**: Stayed in the suburbs, but you should find a hotel near the "fake old quarter" between the Fu Xi Temples and the Taoist temple—it’s a very nice area, and the two temples (especially the Taoist one) are within walking distance. Visited the Maijishan Caves—the ticket includes the shuttle to get there. Took a taxi from Lanzhou for about 10 € in 45 minutes. We found these caves fabulous.
- **Xi’an**: Stayed 500 meters from the Bell Tower at Hantang Inn—very convenient. We’d been before, so we didn’t revisit the Terracotta Army. The calligraphy district is worth it, as is the Muslim Quarter, though it’s very touristy. The area indicated on the Lonely Planet’s walking tour near the old fruit and vegetable market isn’t very interesting. To buy tea, you can go to the Northwest International Tea City, with dozens of shops. We chose one at random, tasted, and bought various teas. There’s everything from cheap to extremely expensive, but you can find reasonable prices even in seemingly luxurious shops. Along the street north of this area, there are large stores with tons of Chinese goods selling dishes, wedding items, etc. We spent hours there. In the city center, there are only malls with more or less international brands.
- **Longmen Grottoes**: Visited as a round trip by high-speed train from Xian—1 hour 15 minutes to Longmen’s high-speed train station, and the site entrance is 15 minutes by taxi.
We didn’t go to Mount Hua Shan, but there’s a high-speed train station nearby, and there were people on the train who were clearly going there. So, you can probably do this excursion in a day from Xian as well.
Conclusion: We hope this report makes you want to go or helps you if you’re already planning to. If you have questions that you can’t find the answer to by searching properly online and we can answer, don’t hesitate.
This trip report covers a journey along the Silk Road in China (see detailed description below) undertaken in October 2025. The goal isn’t to recount the trip but to provide information that might help those who want to take a similar journey. Much of the information is valid for any trip to China.
Who we are: a retired couple, aged 63 and 65 (age gives discounts on entry to various sites and museums in China, which is why I won’t list prices here—I don’t know them, but you can easily find them online). We’re used to traveling independently. We speak English, which is the only foreign language spoken in China, though by very few people. I speak and read a little Chinese, which helped, but you can easily get by without it (without any English at all, I think it would be more difficult).
Period: We arrived just after "Golden Week," when all of China is on vacation, and after the summer, when schools are out, so we encountered very few tourists (99.99% of whom were Chinese). Our experience with booking visits in advance (which we didn’t need to do) isn’t representative for those who want to travel in the summer! The October-November period was perfect for our trip—it wasn’t too hot or too cold (one day of snow on the Tibetan Plateau), though it was only a few degrees on the Tibetan part, with altitudes between 2,000 and 3,000 meters. The trees were beautifully colored.
General remarks: Everyone we dealt with was very kind and perfectly honest. If you order a meal without really understanding what to do and the person modifies your order, trust them—the result is what you need. If a taxi driver signals that they’ll wait for you to finish your visit and pick you up afterward, trust them. It means there aren’t many taxis where you are, and it’ll be more convenient. For prices at street vendors, we always found the right ballpark, and sometimes they even added a little extra to please us. A taxi driver treated us to lunch, and an employee drove us back to the hotel after a visit because there were no taxis. If you struggle to buy a ticket online because there’s no counter, someone will come to help. People even spontaneously ask if everything’s okay and if you need anything.
Everywhere we went was very clean, including restrooms (trains, stations, hotels, museums, tourist sites) and streets. The old stereotypes about this no longer apply.
The trip can be challenging for those who have difficulty walking. The distances to cover on foot in stations, to access sites, and within the sites themselves can sometimes be really long.
We used the Lonely Planet guide in English (published at the end of August 2025) a little for preparation, but mostly relied on the internet.
Before leaving: No visa is needed for French citizens for stays under 30 days. You get a stamp on your passport upon arrival and departure, and the formalities themselves are very quick in both directions (excluding any potential queues). Just a photo and fingerprints upon arrival, and welcome to China’s facial recognition system.
Money: All your payments (see below) will go through your Visa card—there will be hundreds, including many payments of 20 cents to a few euros. So, you need an international option that allows unlimited card transactions. Since cash is rarely needed, the allowed number of ATM withdrawals can be low. We made 3 withdrawals totaling 800 € for a month and could have managed with just 2. The exchange rate charged on our Visa card was 12 € for 100 RMB (yuan).
Install the following apps on your smartphone before leaving (otherwise, you’ll only have access to the Chinese versions, if available): - Alipay, which is used to pay everywhere in China (details below). You need to link it to your credit card, then provide proof of identity by uploading a passport photo and completing a facial recognition session. Alipay gives access to Didi (China’s Uber), public transport (metro/bus), and can also translate phrases. - WeChat (Weixin in Chinese, pronounced *weishin*), which is also used for payments but also replaces WhatsApp. Unfortunately, to activate your account, you need someone who already has WeChat to sponsor you (preferably a Chinese person). We asked someone at our first accommodations to do this—no problem. By sharing your WeChat number with accommodations, they can send you messages that are automatically translated, and you can communicate with people thanks to the translation (translation to French is very poor; it’s much better in English, but unfortunately, WeChat detects your phone’s language). Alipay and WeChat are accepted almost everywhere, but some places only accept WeChat. - Amap, the international version of Baidu Maps, which replaces Google Maps (not at all up-to-date in China). The English names of hotels often have little to do with the Chinese names except for a phonetic resemblance. To find them on Amap, it’s best to copy the Chinese name found on your Trip reservation under "show address in Chinese." - A VPN. We had CyberGhost, which didn’t work, but according to other travelers, NordVPN and Windscribe do. Without a VPN, you can’t access Google services, on WhatsApp you can send and receive text but not photos, and you can’t send or receive emails on Gmail addresses. We managed without a VPN by using Firefox as a browser and Bing as a search engine. - Trip, for booking trains and accommodations, and buying some tickets. It’s the equivalent of Booking for accommodations, but Booking has very few listings in China, while Trip has hundreds in every city. Most hotels and trains are exchangeable and refundable until the day before, with no or minimal fees.
You don’t need contactless (NFC) payment on your phone. Either you scan a barcode and enter the amount to pay, or you display a barcode, and they scan it with a scanner, and the amount is deducted directly.
Upon arrival: - Buy a Chinese SIM card: 100 RMB for 300 GB of data and several hours of talk time (we didn’t use it). Set the Chinese number as a reference on Alipay, WeChat, and Amap. - Find someone to sponsor you on WeChat.
Transportation: - **Plane**: China Eastern, Paris-Canton then Canton-Urumqi on the way out, and Xian-Canton then Canton-Paris on the way back. International flights were smooth, but the schedules for the two domestic flights were changed. It was fine on the way out because we had some leeway, but on the way back, we were notified the morning of that our flight was canceled and replaced with one that didn’t allow for the connection. We called and changed to an earlier flight (I think we were lucky to find available seats). - **Train**: Most long distances were covered by high-speed trains (called D or G in China) at 240 or 300 km/h. Second class is perfect—just as comfortable and clean as our TGVs. The only advantage of first class is the wider seats for larger people, but the downside is that seats are often booked in advance and thus less available. You can book trains long in advance on Trip, but they only go on sale in China 15 days before departure, so that’s when you’ll know if you have a ticket. Initially, we booked first class, but there were no seats available on the day, so we ended up booking everything in second class, which was perfect. There’s no paper ticket—if you’ve bought one, you go to the station, show your passport, and enter. You do the same to access the platform 15 minutes before the train, and that’s it. Our train was canceled twice, but no problem—we went to the ticket counter, got a refund, and were offered a replacement. It didn’t delay us by more than an hour (maybe it would be harder in peak season). For prices, check Trip.com, but it’s significantly cheaper than in France. - **Bus**: We took the bus between Xining and Tongren, Tongren to Xiahe, and Hezuo to Lanzhou—about 3 hours each time for 200 km, 6 € per person, and departures were right on time. - **Taxi**: For trips between the station and hotel, or hotel and visits. If you take a Didi via the Alipay app, you activate your location, enter your destination, and it offers several taxis. You accept, and you get the car’s license plate and its real-time position on the map. When you get in, the driver often asks for the last four digits of your phone number to confirm. Otherwise, you go to the taxi stand outside the station. The price per kilometer is around 20 cents, so for a 30 km trip from the station to the hotel, you’ll pay about 6 €. We never tried to save more by taking local buses, but since the metro in Xian costs 25 cents per trip, it’s probably in the same ballpark. Amap provides public transport routes like Google Maps. - **Driver**: We hired a taxi/driver for the day several times for sightseeing. Prices ranged from 350 to 1,000 RMB (the most expensive was arranged through the Sofitel Xining concierge) for trips ranging from a few hours to a full day, sometimes covering over 300 km (see the detailed trip description).
Accommodations: All booked in advance on Trip, but several were changed during the trip. Off-season, there were no issues. We mostly stayed in upscale places, but in China, that means 50 to 60 € per night in the most central or convenient neighborhood. Note: Almost all hotels have a 5/5 rating on Trip, but it seems the Chinese avoid giving lower ratings to be polite. So, you have to read the comments to realize that in France, we might have given a 2 or 3!
Food: At the table, you’re served hot water or a hot infusion, presumably made with purified water. We never got sick from drinking it, but don’t drink tap water. Purified or mineral water is easy to find.
In restaurants, you can manage by pointing to the dish you want from another diner, on the wall where there are photos, or on the menu with pictures. The food in the region isn’t often spicy, and people usually ask or signal before adding the red spicy sauce, so you should be able to handle it if you don’t like chili at all.
The "fake old quarters" in several cities are great places to find all kinds of restaurants (see detailed trip below).
Like Google Maps, Amap can show you nearby restaurants.
Shopping: For dried fruits, buy them in Turfan—you won’t find the same variety and quality even in Xian. Generally, if you like something, buy it. If you wait, you might not find it outside the region where you are.
In Xian, there’s a "Tea City" where you can find all kinds of tea (from cheap to very expensive).
The trip in more detail: I won’t dwell on the beauty or interest of the sites here since that’s a matter of personal taste. However, I will do so for lesser-known places to give an idea to those who might be interested.
For many sites, there are shuttles (sometimes not included in the ticket price but costing around 1 €) that take you to the interesting spots. We always took them—it saves you from walking past countless shops or along uninteresting paths.
- **Urumqi**: We spent only one night there, arriving in the middle of the afternoon and leaving the next morning. We stayed at the Dana Hotel in the bazaar. Given the size of the city, it’s a good option because I don’t think there are many other interesting places. The bazaar is brand new and not at all "typical" (Turfan’s bazaar is infinitely more interesting), but the dining area is very nice.
- **Turfan**: Stayed at the New Dap Hostel, which was great. The neighborhood is nice, not far from the city, and easy to find food. The museum is closed until 2026 (Amap provides museum hours and closures). We took a day trip (for the two of us) with a driver to the Bezeklik Caves, Flaming Mountains, the abandoned city of Gaochang, the Tuyuk Village Museum, and the Emin Minaret for 500 RMB from 9 AM to 8 PM (arranged by the hostel). The landscape during the excursion was quite fabulous. We also visited the Karez Museum and the abandoned city of Jiaohe on our own the next day. At this time of year, the sun sets around 6 PM, and there’s often haze after 5 PM, so for Jiaohe, for example, which takes about 3 hours to visit, it’s best to be there by 1 or 2 PM at the latest.
The Dahua Market area is perfect for dried fruits (including the famous grapes), and you can eat there among locals in their traditional costumes. Next to it, there are buildings full of shops selling made-in-China items—it kept us busy for a good half-day, if not more.
- **Dunhuang**: Stayed in a guesthouse near the dunes—the city center isn’t far but seems quite artificial. Visited the dunes, with a ticket valid for 3 days. Lots of Chinese tourists—very typical and interesting from an ethnological perspective 😊. We got up early one morning to climb the highest dune, just beyond the one everyone goes to. It’s a bit long and tiring, but the view is worth it. Visited the Mogao Caves, buying the ticket on-site (no chance in season without booking in advance). We met two other French people and got a French-speaking guide (by pretending not to understand English). It was really worth it—a group of 4 instead of 20, and they took their time (2 hours) for the visit. We took a day trip to the Yulin Caves (2.5 hours by road and 160 km one way) with a driver for 350 RMB. We liked it a lot, but if the Mogao Caves are enough for you, it’s not very different.
- **Jiayuguan**: Stayed in a city-center hotel. Visited the Wei and Jin tombs (actually just one)—that’s where we were told the taxi should wait to take us back to the city. We went down into a crypt with lots of decorated bricks from the 3rd century. We really liked it, but it’s not as spectacular as the fort if you’re not a fan. Visited the Jiayuguan Fort and, with the same ticket, climbed a small section of the Great Wall 10 km away. Plan at least 3 good hours for all this—there’s plenty to see.
- **Zhangye**: Stayed at The Silk Road Travelers Hostel, rustic but very nice and organizes excursions. Visited the Danxia (colored mountains)—just as spectacular as the photos. You can easily spend 3 hours there, so plan to finish before sunset to avoid the haze (you can always stay longer for the sunset if the weather’s nice). The next day, visited the Mati Si Temple in the cliff. The 10,000 Buddha Caves are under renovation, but the setting and the main temple are well worth the visit (the paths through the cliff tunnels must be hellish in peak season). You can probably organize these two excursions yourself by asking any taxi driver. Also visited the Giant Buddha Temple in the city center—really worth it.
- **Xining**: Stayed in a city-center hotel. Visited the Tibetan Medicine Museum to see the world’s largest thangka (1 km long), made over 40 years by renowned artists. It’s absolutely magnificent, on par with the virtuosity (but over 1 km) of the thangkas painted by famous artists in Xiahe (see below). Hired a female taxi driver for the day to visit Kumbum Monastery (Ta’er Si in Chinese) and the Danxia area in Guide, 50 km beyond the monastery. It’s less spectacular than Zhangye’s Danxia, but we really liked it (including the journey’s landscape). The next day, visited the old Ming-era Qutan Monastery—no visitors, with beautiful murals (half under renovation). Accessible by train to Haidong or Ledu, then a taxi. Xining’s mosque is of no interest, but there’s a pedestrian street with food stalls nearby that’s very nice.
- **Tongren**: Stayed near the main monastery. Visited Longwu Monastery (several hours), with lots of nice shops along the street leading to it. Then visited Wutun Monastery, which is less lively but beautiful and close to thangka workshops. You can go in and watch the painters at work. For a thangka made by a renowned artist, count about a year of work for 1 m² and around 10,000 €.
- **Xiahe**: Stayed in a city-center hotel. Visited Labrang Monastery—very nice but not as much as Tongren’s because many halls were closed. I think it’s better to go in season and take an English-guided tour (but it’s still worth the trip, even off-season).
- **Langmusi**: Took a taxi, but you can also take a bus (though very early in the morning and longer). Particularly beautiful for us because we woke up to bright sunshine and 5 cm of snow everywhere. Visited the two temples (really nice) and did the classic hike in the gorges starting at the Fairy Cave. For those interested, we continued along the canyon path, and after the meadow where marmots are clearly visible in summer, we climbed toward a pass on the left at 3,800 meters. The view of Langmusi and, above all, the vast grasslands and distant mountains was fabulous (3 hours round trip from the temple). You could probably reach the 4,000-meter summit by continuing up the valley instead of turning left, but according to guides, it’s better to count 7 hours round trip (no technical difficulty). You can leave Langmusi by bus, but off-season, you first have to take a taxi to a stop outside the city and wait for the bus. We didn’t try and took a taxi to Hezuo instead.
Note on this region: A high-speed train is under construction from Xining to Langmusi and beyond (never seen such an impressive construction site!). When it’s operational (in one or two years, I think), access to the area will be revolutionized, and perhaps some of the charm will be lost.
- **Hezuo**: Stopped on the way from Langmusi to Lanzhou. Visited the Milarepa Pagoda, entirely destroyed during the Cultural Revolution and since rebuilt. We liked it since we were passing through, but it doesn’t necessarily justify a long detour.
- **Lanzhou**: Reached by one of the many buses from Hezuo. Stayed in the "fake old quarter," which is extremely pleasant, especially in the evening with restaurants, groups of Chinese women dancing to loud music, etc. Visited Bingling Si with a driver, 120 km away—the landscape and site are absolutely magnificent, with no one around at our time of year. Visited the Gansu Museum (where the famous Flying Horse is, but it’s a replica). We bought the ticket on entry, but in season, you probably need to book in advance.
- **Yinchuan**: Stayed in the city center. A city we discovered by chance in the Lonely Planet—worth it if you have time. On the way, we stopped for a few hours in Zhongwei, where there’s an incredible Taoist temple (I’ll let you be surprised). Visited the Western Xia tombs—we took the short option, which visits Tomb 3. We think the others are similar but less impressive. The surrounding landscape and site are quite spectacular. Visited the film sets (really fun if you like Chinese movies), the short but interesting Ningxia Museum, and finally the modern art museum. The architecture is avant-garde, and there are some beautiful works (we like it, but it’s far from the center—hire a driver who waits, or you might have to wait for an employee to offer a ride back).
- **Tianshui**: Stayed in the suburbs, but you should find a hotel near the "fake old quarter" between the Fu Xi Temples and the Taoist temple—it’s a very nice area, and the two temples (especially the Taoist one) are within walking distance. Visited the Maijishan Caves—the ticket includes the shuttle to get there. Took a taxi from Lanzhou for about 10 € in 45 minutes. We found these caves fabulous.
- **Xi’an**: Stayed 500 meters from the Bell Tower at Hantang Inn—very convenient. We’d been before, so we didn’t revisit the Terracotta Army. The calligraphy district is worth it, as is the Muslim Quarter, though it’s very touristy. The area indicated on the Lonely Planet’s walking tour near the old fruit and vegetable market isn’t very interesting. To buy tea, you can go to the Northwest International Tea City, with dozens of shops. We chose one at random, tasted, and bought various teas. There’s everything from cheap to extremely expensive, but you can find reasonable prices even in seemingly luxurious shops. Along the street north of this area, there are large stores with tons of Chinese goods selling dishes, wedding items, etc. We spent hours there. In the city center, there are only malls with more or less international brands.
- **Longmen Grottoes**: Visited as a round trip by high-speed train from Xian—1 hour 15 minutes to Longmen’s high-speed train station, and the site entrance is 15 minutes by taxi.
We didn’t go to Mount Hua Shan, but there’s a high-speed train station nearby, and there were people on the train who were clearly going there. So, you can probably do this excursion in a day from Xian as well.
Conclusion: We hope this report makes you want to go or helps you if you’re already planning to. If you have questions that you can’t find the answer to by searching properly online and we can answer, don’t hesitate.
We’re a retired French couple.
We’ve just spent 4 weeks in China:
- 1. Exploring Yunnan in a group (12 people); a journey that took us from the Vietnamese border in the south to the edges of Tibet in the north.
- 2. A private trip to Guizhou with just a driver.
We’re absolutely delighted with what we discovered: a modern country with excellent infrastructure (especially the low level of urban pollution thanks to the high number of electric vehicles, the absence of diesel, and no noisy motorbikes in these two less industrialized provinces), friendly Chinese people who were always ready to help us when we had difficulties or questions, and a rich natural and cultural heritage.
The language barrier remains the biggest challenge, despite instant translation tools.
For both trips, we booked through the agency CIELCHINE, which we highly recommend.
The value for money is unbeatable.
The services were luxurious, especially for us since we usually travel alone on a tight budget for accommodation and food.
The agency’s staff were perfectly competent and, what’s more, warm and welcoming.
For Yunnan, our guide SEBASTIEN, who was experienced and knowledgeable, won everyone over.
In Guizhou, our driver HUANG was professionally flawless and guided us through villages he knows well. Friendly and full of humor, he’d spontaneously talk to people he met, which made us be treated with much more kindness and allowed us to exchange a few basic words.
As you can see, I haven’t ticked anything negative—not because I’m hiding anything or have any ulterior motive, but because I’m completely satisfied and the experience even exceeded all my expectations.










