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Bonjour !!!

je me prépare, avec une amie, à partir pour trois belles semaines en iran et ce au mois d'aout prochain et oui je sais il va faire chaud très chaud

nous avons longuement hésité pour cette déstination et ce à cause des conflits avec Israel et de l'info désinformante que véhiculent les médias mais nous allons finalemt nous lancer

pour ma part j'ai deja beaucoup voyagé en mode sac a dos (USA, Canada, Ouzbekistan, Tadjikistan, Sénégal ....) et donc je pense découvrir l'iran de cette façon.

Je me questionne sur l'itinéraire je pense aller a Shiraz Persepolis et Ispahan bien sur mais je souhaiterai aussi aller dans le désert et les montagnes j'"aimerai donc savoir si cela est faisable ? si certain d'entre vous y sont allés recemment ? comment cela s'est passé etc les choses a faire ne pas faire .... tous vos conseils me seront précieux

Merci

Bonjour, Nous sommes un couple avec chacun notre moto, nous partons pour la croatie début mai prochain, y aurait-il des personnes qui soient déjà allé en Croatie en cette période ?!! Nous sommes à la rechercher d'infos, d'endroits à ne pas rater etc .. Nous aimons la mer et la montagne .. merci d'avance

Bonjour,

Tout d'abord, je suis vraiment heureuse de tomber sur un site aussi agréable a lire, qui reunit des gens experimentais ou dans le meme etat d'esprit que moi.

Je souhaite partir car je réalise chaque jour un peu plus comme je souhaite sortir du sentier battu du "metro boulot dodo", j'ai réalisé ce que la vie representer vraiment, et quon est libre de la vivre comme on le souhaite soi-même. Il suffit d'oser! J'ai compris que la seule chose qui nous met des barrieres, se joue aussi par le biais de nos sociétés: par les peurs quon peut avoir de partir rencontrer le monde alors quon ne devrait pas le craindre. Je veux partir pour m'affranchir, me retrouver face a moi, pour grandir encore un peu plus; pour rencontrer des gens, d'autres cultures façon de penser, etc. Je veux vivre ma vie comme je l'entedn et quand je l'entend, et ne pas me conformer, pour devenir un robot qui rentre une fois de plus dans la machine de production qui bousille le monde un peu plus. C'est aussi une bonne maniére de faire un choix de liberté, et de libre controle sur ma vie. Je ressortirai surment plus riche que pauvre (en tout cas jy compte bien), d'avoir vu le monde sous une autre forme. Bien sur c'est pas evident faut s'y preparer, mais ça fait longtemps que je muris le sujet, et jai compris que les chaines ne sont plus aux pieds mais dans la tête.

Malgré la peur l'excitation prends le dessus. Mais jai pleinement conscience que ça se prépare un minimum. ça dit je souhaiterai, dans la limite du possible, et au dela du cout du billet, etre autonome le plus possible (avec bien sur un minimum d'argent pour manger). je souhaiterai partir pour dormir principalement en tente, de temps en temps pour me laver et faire un break aussi: une auberge de jeunesse. Je souhaite aussi me faire un parcours, un circuit (peut etre même traverser plusieurs pays), mais il me faut le B-A bas, pour etre autonome en voyage. Je voudrais principalement marcher, et me poser de temps en temps, pour profiter des endroits magnifiques. Je souhaiterai un voyage où le cout de la vie n'est pas excessif donc, comme je souhaite depenser que pour le strict neccessaire. Auriez vous des avis, des commentaires, de l'experience a faire partarger, et surtout des desinations a me proposer afin de reunir toutes les conditions neccessaires, pour un voyage allant de 2 a 5 mois reussis (juste pour le premier voyage car mon reve cest de faire ca toute ma vie (si vraiment ca me plais) merci de votre comphrehension. Ps: vaut il mieux que je parte accompagné ou pas, autour de moi personne ne veux s'y ""risquer"", ou puis je vraiment le faire seule, suivant la destination?

Merci cordialement.

Bonsoir,

Voilà Capucine qui "démarre" son récit de sa croisière sur le Costa Atlantica vers "les Civilisations Antiques".

Nous étions "un mini groupe de 6 pax". Je vais vous les présenter pour ceux qui n'auraient pas lu la préparation de cette croisière dans une autre discussion.

Christelle (Choco 67) notre fille et son mari Bernard qui arrivent d'Alsace Denise, une amie de longue date qui elle vient de Lamballe en Bretagne Janine et ses 85 printemps qui "débute" dans le ...monde de la croisière et qui habite dans mon petit village au doux nom de Chanteloup Bernard ( Mr ...Capucine !!!!) que beaucoup d'entre vous connaissent Capucine 18 ..... et bien c'est moi !!!!! dingue de voyages, pas spécialement de croisières mais de tous les "moyens" qui me permettent de faire des découvertes.

Allez c'est partie 😎😎😎😎 en espérant le soleil et des compagnons de voyage agréable .

DIMANCHE 20 NOVEMBRE 2011

Aujourd'hui 20 novembre, le Picasso est chargé depuis hier soir. Nous sommes "prêts à partir"!

Nous avons une passagère, non pas clandestine, notre cousine Janine pour qui ce seras sa première croisière à 85 ans ! Un petit bout de femme d'une vivacité extraordinaire.

Nous avons décidé de passer par l'A71 suite aux conseils donnés par l'ami Michel de VF. Bernard prends les commandes et en route ! Il est 7 h et le temps est correct .

Direction St Amand Montrond et l'autoroute pour Clermont Ferrand. Peu de circulation, l'autoroute est à nous. Bientôt le Puy de Dôme se dessine dans le lointain. Clermont est là, le péage puis direction l'autoroute A75 avec Issoire et plein d'autres noms d'endroits qui nous rappellent des souvenirs de voyages avec nos clients.

Fugitivement nous appercevons le Viaduc de Garabit et son tablier rouge qui enjambe la Truyère, puis c'est la Margeride qui défile sous nos yeux. Le paysage est agréable. Nous faisons un arrêt "pipi" de courte durée car le temps est frais et les WC autoroutiers très peu ...clos, juste ce qu'il faut .............

Et nous revoilà repartis. Tout vas bien et le Picasso assure !

Ah ! voilà la direction "Millau" Aire du Larzac ! Il est là tout à côté, mon pont préféré "Le Pont de Millau" ! STOP , péage, 6,40 euros pour avoir le droit d'empreinter ce superbe ouvrage . A préciser que l'autoroute est gratuite jusqu'à Montpellier.

Notre ami "Jacquot", pour tout dire le GPS, nous signale souvent les petites boites disposées le long de notre parcours ... et il y en a un bon nombre. Nous voilà au plus célébre , celui du Tunnel de l'Escalette, panneau de signalisation bien avant le Tunnel, 850 m de tunnel puis il est là avec le panneau indiquant "Rappel 70 kms /h" en pleine descente et aujourd'hui et bien ...il pleut depuis notre entrée dans le Larzac. Sacré radar, il a du en faire gagner des sous à l'Etat !!!!!!

Lodève, St Guilhem du Désert, tous les grands sites régionaux sont signalés sur l'autoroute. Midi est proche mais nous décidons de passer Montpellier et de déjeuner après avoir pris la direction Nimes, Arles, etc....

Montpellier est en vue et la pluie est terminée. La circulation est nettement plus importante. Nous apercevons le Stade de la Mosson et oui tout m'intéresse même les stades de foot !!

Nous stoppons dans un resto autoroutier flambant neuf mais pas terrible en qualité, juste de quoi se nourrir ... on fera mieux durant la semaine à venir !

Nimes, Arles, Salon de Provence, nous récupérons l'A7, "l'autoroute du Soleil" qui devient ensuite "La Provençale".

AH ! voyant orange ... Mr Picasso a soif !!!! Nous sortons de l'autoroute et à Vidhauban nous trouvons de quoi satisfaire l'appétit de notre véhicule .

Allez hop ! dernière ligne droite pour aujourd'hui, nous longeons la Grande Bleue, avec ses villes prestigieuses telles St Raphael, Cannes, Antibes et voilà le panneau Villeneuve Loubet.

J'ai réservé sur le net une chambre pour nous 3 à l'hôtel B & B, tarif WE. L'hôtel est en hauteur le long du Loup, petit fleuve côtier, qui voilà peu de temps est devenu un torrent furieux !!!!! Nature reprends tes droits !!!

L'accueil est sympathique et notre chambre avec 1 grand lit et un lit d'une personne est fonctionnelle.

Nous devons retrouver Christelle à Nice pour aller dîner. Il fait beau Nice est toujours agréable mais je ne reconnais plus le centre ville. Nous allons faire simple, une pizza dans le Vieux Nice au milieu d'Italiens en goguette nous mets en "jambes" pour la semaine !

La fatigue commence à se faire sentir et nous avons tous qu'une envie aller dormir. Rendez vous est pris pour demain, sur l'autoroute menant à Savone, à l'aire de La Turbie vers 10 h . Christelle aura pris en charge notre dernière passagère.

Bonne nuit à demain pour le grand jour !

Capucine 18

Cycling Through Provence's Big Climbs

In the autumn of 2011, Provence was hit by apocalyptic weather—torrential rain and a particularly violent east wind, reaching 130 kilometers per hour, whipping up waves as high as seven meters. It wasn’t the best time to venture outside. Yet, I told myself that after the storm, calm would return. I kept an eye on the weather forecast and noticed that starting November 10th, a favorable window should open for a little 600-kilometer cycling trip across Provence. The weather reports promised a high-pressure system that would keep the bad weather at bay over these highlands. That was all I needed to decide to set off. The planned route would take me through Provence’s biggest climbs: Mont Ventoux, Montagne de Lure, the Verdon Gorge, the Massif des Maures, and Sainte-Baume.

And so, despite my doubts, the call of adventure was stronger. The train pulled away, and once again, a journey began at Part-Dieu station. This time, I headed toward Haute-Provence for a cycling adventure. It would be my first solo bike trip. I was a little nervous—cycling with panniers makes you feel vulnerable to theft. I’d already been robbed while traveling in a group in Peru, and that experience left me deeply shaken. Alone, I hesitated. But no need to panic—I’d read accounts from long-distance cyclists who hadn’t been robbed, even if it does happen sometimes. I was particularly thinking of a young schoolteacher who had taken a sabbatical to cycle around the world. Her students had remarked, "Teacher, you’re not sporty—how will you manage to cycle around the world?" This young woman was full of resourcefulness. In South America, before flying to China, she locked her bike to a post to take care of a natural need. When she returned, the post had been torn out, and her bike—along with all her gear—was gone. It was a shock for many, but not for her. She boarded her flight to the Middle Kingdom, bought the essentials (including a new bike) once there, and continued her journey! Remembering this story, I almost felt ashamed of my cowardice. These were the thoughts running through my mind as the Rhône Valley rolled by toward Orange, the starting point of my Provençal adventure through the big climbs.

Day One: Orange to Sault via Mont Ventoux – 90 km

9:30 AM, I stepped off the train. With all my gear, I had to navigate the underground passage—no easy feat, given that my bike and luggage weighed 35 kilos. At this time of year, I expected some areas to be deserted, so I’d packed enough to bivouac comfortably. Once outside the station, the southern light flooded over me. I understood why people dream of retiring in these sun-drenched regions. As always, after disembarking from public transport, I had to get my bearings and decide which way to go. The sun, still low on the horizon, pointed east. The roar of fighter jet engines helped me locate the Air Base 115. That was all I needed to "reset the gyros."

As soon as I started pedaling, all my apprehensions vanished. The joy of discovery and physical effort took over, and euphoria washed over me. It’s amazing how emotions can shift from one moment to the next based on seemingly minor circumstances.

The weather was splendid—the forecast had predicted continuous showers, but it was completely wrong. I quickly left the city behind. Mont Ventoux loomed mysteriously, its dimensions hard to gauge. It was even more enigmatic with its summit hidden beneath swirling, mottled clouds clinging to the ridges. It reminded me of a great South American volcano. I struggled to imagine that in a few hours, I’d be up there under that blanket of mist.

The countryside was shaking off its autumnal nighttime dampness. The vineyards, interspersed with tall cypress hedges, confirmed I was in the magnificent Côtes du Rhône wine region. The distinctive Dentelles de Montmirail were very much in evidence. The air force base wasn’t far. I passed the runway’s end markers. A Mirage 2000 flew overhead in a tight turn, followed by another roaring into takeoff. It came straight at me before climbing sharply with a thunderous roar. Thirty years spent in that captivating world came rushing back. I recalled countless extraordinary human and technical experiences from my time in the service. But the purpose of this post isn’t to promote the air force—though I might post some articles one day about travels among men at war.

I continued on my way, leaving my past loves behind. As I pedaled, delightful names rolled by: Violès, Vacqueyras, Gigondas, Beaumes-de-Venise—the crème de la crème of the Côtes du Rhône Villages appellation. I let myself be enchanted by the vineyards and the little paths crisscrossing them. I started to doubt my route, though the imposing mass of Mont Ventoux in the distance acted like a giant beacon. At a crossroads, a car appeared. I approached to ask the driver for directions, but she didn’t even look at me and sped off, clearly frightened. I’d almost forgotten what a fearful world we live in, no doubt traumatized by all the horrors we see in the news and on TV.

The kilometers started adding up, but was my day’s goal too ambitious? It had been two months since I’d last ridden my bike. True, my last trip had been good training—the Route des Grandes Alpes—but that was two months ago. I can’t just take my bike out for a day trip; I need that sense of adventure to find the courage to exercise.

Two cyclists overtook me. Intrigued by my load, they struck up a conversation. They were skeptical when I told them I planned to cross Mont Ventoux that day. One of them pointed out a small chapel near the summit where I could bivouac sheltered. That motivated me even more to reach the top on this first stage. The chapel also had a mythical name for me—Sainte-Anne, the name of my parents’ villa. It was already noon, and I’d covered 50 kilometers. Malaucène appeared—the sacred village of Ventoux’s mad cyclists. Surprisingly, I didn’t see any other cyclists today. I remembered this place in June, teeming with aspirants for the king of summits. Before tackling the climb ahead, I needed to refuel. I enjoyed a pleasant gastronomic break at Max’s. At 1 PM, I started the most famous climb in cycling—21 kilometers, which would actually be 23. I knew it would be tough, especially with two handicaps: 50 kilometers already in my legs and 20 kilos of luggage. But I was counting on my tiny chainring, which let me climb trees to tackle the steep ramps.

I set off at a brisk pace along a deserted road. My speed held up for the first few kilometers. I quickly rose above the valley, the horizon widening. I was surprised to see no one on this world-renowned route among cycling enthusiasts. During the climb and descent, I’d only see five cyclists—but I’ll come back to that. I passed a sign explaining that the effort would be roughly equivalent to climbing the Col de la Bonnette. Having done the latter in September, I figured I’d be fine. I crossed paths with my first cyclist—a woman speeding downhill. After 12 kilometers, I hit slopes averaging 12%. I don’t know if the number 12 is cursed, but I got such a "bamboo" hit that I’d never experienced before. I thought I wouldn’t make it to the summit today. I stopped. My thighs burned so much I could barely walk—lactic acid overload. I looked for a relatively flat spot to pitch my tent. It was 3:30 PM, with two hours of daylight left. But I found nothing.

I got back on my bike, intending to stop as soon as I found a good bivouac spot. But nothing came up. However, my strength slowly returned, perhaps because the slope eased, though it remained around 10%. I entered the summit mists. A cyclist overtook me. I was in the zone where I had to pass the summit. Dusk caught me in the final difficulties. The atmosphere was downright austere. In the twilight, a kilometer from the summit, a cyclist was fixing his bike. I asked if he needed help. He made it clear he didn’t understand. So I asked, "Do you need some help?" His answer was clear: "No, thank you." He showed me his new inner tube. Inside, I thought, "Phew!" If I’d had to stop, sweating in the falling night with the cold intensifying, I’d have struggled to get going again. But he managed, and I continued into the twilight fog. I could barely make out the summit’s large antennas in the clouds, like immense ghosts trying to evade sight. The bike delivered sensations worthy of mountain racing. My goal was to quickly find the famous chapel in the descent to take shelter. As I glided down the southern slope, two cyclists without lights crossed my path in the night—probably heading to the station above, its lights visible in the fog.

I scanned the roadside in the dark for the chapel but saw nothing. After a kilometer or two, I lost all hope. I stopped to put on more clothes as the cold became intense. I had no idea where I could stop on these steep slopes to set up camp. Between the swirls of mist, I could intermittently see the Rhône Valley below, dotted with illuminated towns and villages. The sight was striking. What was I doing on this mountain at night? Then the miracle happened—the clouds parted, and from the ridge above me to the east, a beautiful full moon emerged, casting enough light to consider a nighttime descent to Sault, 26 kilometers away.

In this eerie atmosphere between the moon’s pale rays and patches of fog, I began my descent through a hazy, almost unreal world. The Ventoux’s characteristic white scree reflected the moonlight faintly, dimmed by the mist. In places, entire mountainsides were plunged into complete darkness, and I lost all sense of the road’s path. Then, around a tight bend caused by a land shift, the light returned. It seemed extreme compared to the darkness I’d left behind. I could once again clearly see the road’s contours, though not its potholes or gravel patches. Still, I let the slope carry me, and the speed felt significant, though the low light prevented me from reading my speedometer. In these moments, concentration was at its peak—all senses alert, reflexes ready to react to the slightest incident that could lead to a fall.

I was relieved to see Sault’s lights growing closer. In less than an hour, I reached it, considering the final little climb that required one last push. This village, bustling in summer, was deserted at this time of year—almost dead. The first hotel I came across was closed. A quick shadow passed in a small sloping street. Before it disappeared into the darkness at a house corner, I chased after it and asked about accommodation options. Very kindly, I was directed to what was probably the only hotel open in November. I quickly found it, and the reception was open. I entered wearing my black balaclava, bought in the Ayacucho region—the birthplace of Peru’s Shining Path. At this late hour, I saw questioning glances directed at me. I prefaced, "This isn’t a hold-up." Clearly, the owners had a sense of humor—they started smiling. I took off my balaclava and asked for a room. No problem, and from that moment, the pressure eased. I really didn’t feel like going back out to find a spot to pitch my tent in the biting cold.

The stage had been nearly 100 kilometers, and it was the first. It had been two months since I’d touched my bike, and I probably lacked even minimal training, even though my last bike trip had been crossing the French Alps. I really had to dig deep to overcome my weakness on Ventoux’s steep section. I don’t remember ever having to search so deeply for the energy to keep going. I knew the stage I’d set for tomorrow was significant, with the climb up Montagne de Lure’s northern slope—Ventoux’s little sister, whose ascent is reputed to be endless, over 25 kilometers. I hoped this first day wouldn’t leave me too sore to avoid suffering excessively tomorrow.

For now, relaxation—a hot shower did me a world of good, followed by a good meal. I ate a delicious andouillette from Troyes, very fine, with a particularly successful herb seasoning. I loved it, and yet I’m from Lyon and pride myself on knowing a thing or two about andouillette—not just a sausage but a whole category! A bit chauvinistic, I had to admit, though reluctantly, that I found it better than the ones I usually eat in the Lyon region!

Day Two: Sault to Forcalquier via Montagne de Lure – 116 km

This morning, the weather was magnificent—the air clear, still, very fresh, and invigorating, as only the late season can offer on these Provençal highlands. In summer, they’re known for their scorching heat and drought, but often overlooked is how harsh they can be with cold and storms. Authors like Giono or Bosco described them and their inhabitants wonderfully in books like "Les Âmes Fortes."

The miracle of the night had worked. I wasn’t sore anywhere and felt in great shape. I set off well-equipped, but the effort and sun soon made me sweat. It was time to shed some layers—hat and gloves. A gentle warmth replaced the cold, making for excellent cycling conditions. On the road to Trinit, there was no traffic—only the occasional hunters’ cars parked in the distance. These vehicles were recognizable by their large cages, used to transport hunting dogs. Sometimes, the silence was broken by a distant gunshot. The deciduous forests were losing their foliage, taking on that dull brown hue of late autumn, though here and there, a tree or shrub still resisted, displaying vivid yellow or red. The meadows, their grass already scorched by the cold, were damp from the night’s heavy humidity. The low sun highlighted thousands of spider webs that had trapped insects during the warm season.

Behind me, Mont Ventoux dominated these vast spaces. As often, its imposing, stony summit was crowned with a blanket of clouds. What an impressive mountain—it’s always so hard to gauge its dimensions. I struggled to realize that last night I’d been at the summit and descended its immense southern ridge in the dark. I hoped to return one day in favorable conditions—daylight and no clouds—to enjoy the vast panorama from this unique summit.

Leaving the very Provençal village of Trinit, I tackled my first climb of the day—the Col de l’Homme Mort. The road rose moderately for five kilometers in gentle warmth. The view over the region widened, and I felt the sheer joy of pedaling. At a good pace, I overcame this first little challenge. Once at the pass, I couldn’t resist the ritual of photographing my bike in front of the sign, giving the name and altitude—1,213 meters.

The northern slope was austere and still in shadow. The cold bit again. The road was wet and covered with leaves in places. It wasn’t impossible that some treacherous patches of black ice lurked around a bend. I descended toward the Jabron Valley with caution. Suddenly, around a bend in a forest clearing, the freshly snow-covered Alps, gleaming in the sun, leapt into view, blocking the horizon. I thought I recognized the distinctive silhouette of the Écrins’ south face above a multitude of jagged peaks.

This snow and these mountains awakened a flood of memories of great joys, but I also thought of the guide and his client who had just lost their lives on the Grandes Jorasses’ north face, at the top of a route called the Linceul. The name comes from the face’s appearance—a great ice slope bordering the Grandes Jorasses’ north wall. It was first climbed by René Desmaison in 1968. He passed away a few years ago and, in his final wishes, asked that his ashes be scattered in the Dévoluy Massif at the foot of Pic de Bure, not far from here in these immense pre-Alpine folds.

At my feet, the Jabron Valley stretched almost endlessly east toward Sisteron. In the distance, the dark mass of Montagne de Lure’s north face loomed. This mountain shares similarities with Mont Ventoux. It has the same summit scree of bright limestone, the same forests climbing up to the final rocky stretch, and that blanket of clouds adding a secretive, austere touch to the scene.

I turned left past the town of Séderon and headed toward the little Col de la Pigière, which in a few kilometers allowed me to truly plunge into the beautiful Jabron Valley. I passed through several villages with charming local names—Saint-Vincent, Noyer-sur-Jabron. The river offered lovely views of its narrow gorges with clear, cold water. Autumn seemed less advanced here than on the plateau I’d just left. Many trees still wore brilliant colors, some revealing extraordinary hues—mixes of crimson, pink, and bright red.

Arriving in Noyer-sur-Jabron, I took a tiny road on the river’s right bank, leading in a few kilometers to the foot of Montagne de Lure. In the village of Valbelle, I picnicked on leftovers I’d brought from home—an old cheese and a somewhat stale loaf of bread. It was 1:30 PM. I began the long climb of about 25 kilometers. According to a friend who’s a cycling expert in the region, this section is tough. No wonder it’s called Ventoux’s little sister—the Mont Blanc of cyclists. The elevation gain on this side is still 1,200 meters, while Ventoux via Malaucène is nearly 1,600 meters.

I hoped to reach the summit before nightfall and avoid reliving a nighttime descent. The route wound through a vast forest, following the terrain’s folds. There was activity—mushroom hunters were busy searching for the coveted chanterelle. The climb, though never very steep (only one kilometer at 9%), was interminable. Though traffic was practically nonexistent, I was overtaken by a group of Harley bikers—I counted about forty. Perched high on their machines, hands in the air on wildly shaped handlebars, some with their feet nearly in the sky due to the high footpegs, they didn’t even glance my way. What’s this idiot doing, unable to ride a motorcycle and forced to climb these mountains on a bike with big bags! I wasn’t offended—real Harley purists often see other motorcyclists as renegades, so bikes are even lower on the totem pole! But I didn’t want to start a debate about motorcycles. In my youth, when I was a wild motorcyclist (22 accidents on two wheels), clans were divided into Japanese, German, Italian, and British bike owners. The latter, on their vibrating, oil-leaking machines, considered themselves the purest. But let’s not fight—there’s a statute of limitations, and it’s been nearly forty years.

As yesterday, a few kilometers below the summit, I entered the fog, and the light dropped suddenly. What a hostile mountain in these conditions! It heightened the sense of living an incredible experience. The conditions we encounter play a major role in how the adventure imprints on our memory. I realized once again that in France, you can feel like you’re very far away. Finally, after this very long climb, the Pas de Graille sign suddenly appeared out of the grayness. Strange! Below the sign, a kilometer marker indicated this same pass was over three kilometers away. Clearly, the climb continued. In these final kilometers through the scree, I gained another 130 meters of elevation. Finally, the road’s high point was reached—1,720 meters. It was cold and damp. I quickly covered up, added my balaclava under my helmet, and put on warm gloves. As I was about to start the descent, a car stopped at the summit, and one of the passengers was surprised to find a bike there in these chilly, twilight conditions.

A 20-kilometer descent led me to the village of Saint-Étienne-les-Orgues. I hoped to find a place to stay for the night. No such luck! Everything was clearly closed—no chance of finding shelter. Tonight was getting complicated. I already had exactly 100 kilometers in my legs and didn’t feel like pedaling anymore, especially at night. But I had even less desire to sleep outside. What to do to avoid it? The town of Forcalquier was 16 kilometers away—I hoped the road would descend. I set off in that direction. The first third was along a beautiful, lightly trafficked departmental road with a slight downhill—I pedaled hard. But it got tougher. I joined a busier road, and night had fallen. A several-kilometer climb finished the journey. I knew my magnetic lights weren’t very powerful—hence the danger. They were even less so on the climb because the slower I went, the less they illuminated. Cars coming the opposite way often saw me late and blinded me with their high beams. After passing, I was plunged into total darkness for a few seconds while my pupils readjusted to the night. I imagined those coming up behind me saw me with little warning, despite my slightly fluorescent jacket. When the roadside was clear, I always positioned myself to quickly jump off the road. But unfortunately, in this long final climb, a guardrail prevented any escape to the right in case of sudden braking behind me. That was even more anxiety-inducing since I was stuck at a snail’s pace. Time seemed long. I pedaled as hard as I could, on the verge of asphyxiation, trying to escape this dangerous situation as quickly as possible. My only reference point was the vehicles in front of me, letting me know the climb wasn’t over. Then suddenly, the ordeal ended—the road’s high point was reached. The town and its lights emerged from the void, and clarity returned. Phew! I glided down toward this little town bathed in light. On November 11th, I hoped to find an open hotel since I’d clearly exceeded 100 kilometers, and the idea of having to leave town to find a bivouac spot somewhat frightened me.

I arrived in the town center. Activity was low. The first hotel was closed, but I spotted a lit sign for another establishment further on. I headed there, got off my bike, and entered. The welcome was immediately friendly—a big cat came to rub against me. For me, that was a very good sign, and the first impression was confirmed. I still had to go out to eat. I covered the minimum distance. A restaurant advertised "Mom’s Cooking." I expected Provençal specialties, but they were Moroccan. I chose a delicious tagine with lime and olives, followed by almond and honey ice cream. Exhausted after this 116-kilometer stage, I returned to my room. As often after intense efforts, it was hard to fall asleep.

Day Three: Forcalquier to Moustiers-Sainte-Marie – 58 km

On this third day, due to the progress made yesterday, the stage would be short. I’d call it a transition between two mountain ranges. Indeed, the next big climb is the Verdon Gorge. I planned to position myself at its foot this evening in preparation for a tough stage tomorrow. I made a few purchases—bread, bananas, and medicine for stomach burns (the midday sausage wasn’t always kind to me). The weather was still perfect. The route began with a long descent toward the Durance. It’s always nice to start a cycling day with a downhill—it boosts morale and allows for a gentle warm-up.

I quickly reached the town of Oraison. Just at its entrance, I crossed the Durance, which still bore traces of last week’s heavy rains along its sandbanks. Indeed, numerous stumps and trunks were scattered along its vast gravel bed, along with less ecological debris like old tires.

A little south of Oraison, I took the D907, a small road heading due east between scrubland and meadows. There it was—the Provence we imagine. This stable autumn weather, with still air, neither hot nor cold, just a fresh feeling when emerging from a shaded valley or a slight warmth under the sun, was ideal for a cyclist. After about ten kilometers at the bottom of a small valley I quickly passed through, the village of Le Brunet appeared on the right. It clung to the slopes leading to the Valensole Plateau. A few steep kilometers along a tiny winding road, and suddenly a vast panorama unfolded as the climb ended.

What a magnificent plateau! Though known for its wind, luckily today was completely calm. Far to the east, the Verdon’s great cliffs blocked the horizon. This allowed me to contemplate part of tomorrow’s stage. This place is full of mysteries—many UFO and extraterrestrial encounter stories are associated with it. Moreover, for about thirty years, France hid its ground-to-ground nuclear ballistic missiles here, grouped in the 1st GMS (Ballistic Missile Group), under the air force. Naturally, these rockets fueled fantasies, and pacifist groups settled in the region to protest this type of armament. This gives many reasons to shroud this austere, deserted land in mystery.

I took a dirt path leading to the heart of this zone and stopped at the forest’s edge for lunch. The silence was total, the view stretched very far. But nothing strange or bizarre manifested. No Martian came to share my frankly moldy cheese, very peppery sausage, or bruised banana—sniff! I resumed my route, and as often when crossing places with strong character, I tended to slow down to enjoy them longer. The immense lavender fields stretched endlessly, not very fragrant at this season. I arrived at a group of truffle oaks protected by a fence, with large red signs warning "Firearm." Clearly, the war for the black diamond was raging in this region. I remembered a novel where an old farmer made buyers believe nothing grew on his land. Every year, he secretly stole the mushrooms from the unsuspecting owners. Then one day, they discovered the truth, catching this "polite" neighbor trying to hide a basket full of beautiful, large truffles!

In these vast spaces, I felt good—a sense of plenitude. It’s strange that I only conceive of cycling through wandering. I struggle to plan a day trip. And if I do, it’s highly likely I won’t get up. I need that sense of adventure to fully appreciate my physical effort. Maybe one day I should get psychoanalyzed, but at my age, it’s probably too late! Today, I had all the time in the world—the stage was half as long as yesterday’s, with very little elevation gain. Not a sound, an impressive calm, a beautiful landscape—I pedaled in a wonderful place. That’s probably happiness!

I reached the village of Puimoisson on the plateau’s eastern edge—only 12 kilometers left to Moustiers. I took my time, sat at a café terrace in the sun, and leisurely enjoyed a coffee while listening to the village come to life. I was delighted by these melodious southern voices, bursting into great laughter. There are places where, despite the anxieties caused by our debt-ridden, dysfunctional societies, some have decided to take life on the bright side and show a saving insouciance.

The rest of the journey was a simple formality—I let the slope carry me toward the pretty little town of Moustiers-Sainte-Marie, clinging to the cliff and famous for its faïence. Arriving early for once, I went to the tourist office to choose a comfortable hotel. Indeed, the Hôtel des Restanques was very comfortable and admirably well-located. But at this time of year, I’d have to return to the village center for dinner. The very kind receptionist reserved a table for me at La Treille Muscate, a restaurant with a magnificently arranged room on the church square. It was only 3:30 PM—I continued to take my time, showering and relaxing in front of the TV. Then I set off to explore—or rather, re-explore—this village I’d visited several times before. But I’d never climbed to its chapel perched in the middle of the great cliff towering over the houses. A stony, aerial path led there. The first mentions of the Notre-Dame de Beauvoir chapel, known in ancient times as Notre-Dame d’Entre-Roches, date back to the 9th century. It’s one of the rare "respite" chapels found in Provence. These are chapels where stillborn children were brought to be revived for a few moments, just long enough to baptize them. They could then be buried religiously, ensuring the salvation of their souls. I was also very moved by reading some ex-votos, like the one from "A mother for her three children returned from the war."

The place was impressive, especially as night fell. I was alone and watched the shadows fill the great cliffs above me. With an old climber’s reflex, I looked for possible climbing routes among these slabs and cracks. But climbing is probably forbidden here, too close to the houses. Then I descended to stroll through the village, admiring the magnificent, finely crafted faïence patterns found in many shops. Finally, dinnertime arrived, and I joined my restaurant, which had been highly recommended. I was delighted by the foie gras ravioli and the pieds et paquets—the chef’s specialty. I’ll come back with family.

Day Four: Moustiers to Fréjus via the Verdon – 122 km

A hearty breakfast prepared me for the day’s tough efforts. Next to me, four Chinese people chatted animatedly. Of course, I didn’t understand a word—it was a language with strange intonations and sounds. I left the dining room and prepared my bike on the terrace. Seeing the volume of my luggage, my Chinese friends rushed over and asked to take turns having their photo taken in front of this funny setup. All laughing, they took photos in front of what they probably considered a French coolie off on some trading business! When they show these photos to their relatives, they’ll likely be perplexed about what motivates some to travel by bike rather than car. For them, the car is a symbol of success—according to an article I read last year, 14,000 cars are registered in China every day!

This morning, the air was fresh. As yesterday, I started with a long descent, this time leading to the edge of Lac de Sainte-Croix. A strong, biting headwind slowed me down. It wouldn’t last, as it was generated by the gorge’s outlet, which I’d reach in a few kilometers. On this cold morning, the lake’s shores exuded great tranquility. The sun was still hidden behind the Verdon’s mountainous mass. Trees with yellow leaves stood out against the water’s pale blue. The bridge marking the gorge’s beginning at the lake’s edge was an ideal spot to admire this natural splendor. At this early hour, the play of light and shadow on the water and the immense cliffs delivered a grandiose spectacle in beautiful harmony. This first contact with the gorges, which I knew well, amazed me.

Once past the bridge, the wind calmed. A little further on, I began the long climb that would take me to the top of this immense natural gash, which water had taken millions of years to carve. I was in good shape and highly motivated by the splendors to come. First, I reached the village of Aiguines, which offered a magnificent viewpoint over the lake. Then I continued toward the Corniche Sublime, where countless breathtaking panoramas unfolded as I progressed. But the climb was sustained and long, requiring effort—though my small chainring worked miracles. I first passed the Col d’Illoire, already 500 meters above the lake. Seeing all these great cliffs, countless climbing memories came flooding back. The classic routes of the Escalès cliff, over 300 meters high, flashed by. Routes with legendary names—La Demande, Les Écureuils, Luna-Bong, and many others. The one that left me with the best memory was ULA—a crack, vertical or even overhanging, of sheer beauty rising above a 40-meter slab in one go for 280 meters of sustained, beautiful climbing on extraordinary rock. It made me want to return to climb there, to immerse myself in the atmosphere of those past times. But climbing habits have changed—now routes are accessed from above by rappel, and people don’t always bother to do these great climbs in their entirety, focusing instead on shorter but technically much more difficult enterprises.

At almost every bend, I stopped and scanned these great cliffs, searching for memories of past experiences and emotions in these secret rock folds. The road climbed well above the pass, exceeding 1,200 meters. It was cool, especially since I was sweating. Finally reaching the high point of the Corniche Sublime, I couldn’t gain speed on the descent—my gaze was always drawn to this astonishing canyon. Around a bend, two cyclists with funny small-wheeled bikes. Wow! It was a couple of Australians doing a year-long tour of France. We chatted passionately about our two-wheeled experiences for a moment. But time was passing, and if I wanted to reach Fréjus before nightfall, I’d have to pedal seriously.

I stopped at the Pont de l’Artuby, where bungee jumping was in full swing. But I quickly set off again toward Comps. The wind was against me, and it was climbing. I started to doubt whether I’d make it to the coast that evening. At 2 PM, I was in Comps-sur-Artuby. I didn’t stop, knowing that before reaching the coast, I’d have no alternative to bivouacking, and I had 70 kilometers left to cover. Sure, it should be downhill, but a few climbs were on the program. After a descent out of the village, I crossed the Artuby River again on the Canjuers military camp. A several-kilometer climb followed, fortunately not too steep. I took the D19 toward Barjols. From there, despite the late hour, I opted for a tiny road passing through Claviers, a small perched village. Time passed quickly, but the kilometers added up. I regained hope. Fifteen kilometers after this last village, I reached Saint-Paul-en-Forêt via a magnificent forested route. I had plenty of time to observe mushroom hunters. I asked one who clearly had some in a plastic bag. He gave me this hilarious answer with a magnificent southern accent: "I only picked the bad ones." No reply was possible. I moved on with a smile. A little further on, another hunter carried a basket. As soon as he saw me, he quickly hid it—just in case I saw what it contained. Arriving at the village involved a steep climb, and I was close to 100 kilometers. I still had a little over 20 kilometers to go before reaching Fréjus. The race against nightfall had begun. Over there to my right, I saw the sun setting behind Roquebrune-sur-Argens’ distinctive rock. The sea appeared. There it was—I was in Fréjus’ industrial zone. On this Sunday evening, traffic was heavy. Indeed, many had taken advantage of the return of good weather after very heavy storms to go for a walk. After quite a few detours, I arrived at the seaside just as night fell. My odometer showed 122 km for the day. I quickly found a simple hotel, ate just as quickly, and went to bed.

Day Five: Fréjus to Solliès-Pont – 92 km

Once again, the night had done its restorative work, and I prepared to cross the Massif des Maures feeling quite fresh. The weather forecast was still favorable for today, but a deterioration was expected tomorrow. I tended to trust it because the east wind was blowing, and in the region, that’s a sign of rain. For now, in the short term, this wind would be very useful—it would push me generously throughout the day.

I started calmly along the harbor quays, looking at the boats. Then I joined the road to Saint-Aygulf and followed the coast for forty kilometers to Port-Grimaud. All these seaside resorts—Saint-Aygulf, Les Issambres, Sainte-Maxime—reminded me of my youth when we spent all our vacations fishing, whether from shore, underwater, or by boat. Looking at the sea roll by, I knew what the seabeds looked like under that surface hiding them. The marine areas we knew best were now under the parking lots and commercial zones of Saint-Raphaël’s new port. In our youth, these infrastructures didn’t exist, and their construction came at the expense of coastal marine areas. Our wonderful fishing spots were permanently buried. I remember seeing the first big trucks that came to dump their loads of earth and rubble, destroying all those wonderful places—sandbanks, seaweed beds, groups of rocky holes teeming with fish that enchanted our youth. Over forty years later, I can still visualize them in my imagination under those parking lots and stores, with the names we gave them—my brothers and I: le casse-croûte, le casse-pipe, les montagnes, la digue, la grille, la mare à mulets, la petite-plage, le trou, etc.

Let’s not be overwhelmed by nostalgia. I left the coast and took the little road through the Maures to Collobrières. The route led from ridge to ridge following the terrain’s movements. At this time of year, the region was admirable. Due to the heavy storms of recent weeks, water was streaming everywhere. Waterfalls and streams murmured all along the way. I didn’t recognize the Maures, which I knew for their dryness causing apocalyptic fires. Indeed, around a bend, I came across a small rest area where a memorial had been erected for three firefighters who lost their lives here while fighting one of those gigantic fires fanned by the mistral.

This forest holds treasures—first, the cork oak, then the arbutus, chestnut trees, and of course, mushrooms that love this granitic soil:

The cork oak can be found all along the road. It’s the forest’s essential element. You can recognize it by its light bark (before exploitation), which forms large bulges along the trunk. But after exploitation, the trunks are much smoother, less voluminous, and dark in color. The arbutus is a large berry with red skin covered in small protuberances, growing on the arbutus tree. This fruit, common in Mediterranean areas, ripens in November. That means today, there were plenty around me. Its flesh is orange, with the consistency of firm purée, and it crushes softly in the mouth. The taste of this berry is sweet and excellent. I didn’t hold back—I gorged myself on them, which served as my midday meal. Sometimes I had to climb embankments to get them.

The chestnut tree, a true industry of the region, brings wealth to the surrounding villages. They make candied chestnuts, ice cream, and other products derived from chestnut flour. Be careful not to stop just anywhere to pick this fruit, as the tree owners might not agree. They even make this clear with signs and surround their chestnut trees with fences. Mushrooms—saffron milk caps and porcini—are highly prized in the area. I saw a few hunters, but it clearly wasn’t miraculous. Supposedly, there had been too much rain?

There’s no time to get bored along this little road, from which you can sometimes see the sea. I passed the Col de Taillude at over 400 meters. I began the descent to Collobrières, the chestnut capital, whose festival attracts many people. Before entering, about a hundred meters from the first houses, a cyclist—probably an agricultural worker—came toward me. As he passed, he cheerfully called out, "Go on, little guy! It’s almost there!" We both smiled. At the end of November, the village was cold and almost deserted. Dead leaves swept the wet streets of the town. You could feel winter on the way. I continued my route to Pierrefeu-du-Var, on the western edge of the Massif des Maures. So I gave my last pedal strokes in this pretty little massif so characteristic of Provence.

I looked for a hotel in Cuers but without success. I descended toward Toulon and finally found one on the outskirts of Solliès-Pont. It catered to people coming to work in the region, so nothing very bucolic. But if the weather were to deteriorate tomorrow and turn to rain, I could quickly reach Hyères or Toulon station, which was a significant advantage. Indeed, November rains aren’t usually very pleasant on a bike.

Day Six: Solliès-Pont to Cassis via Sainte-Baume – 85 km

This morning, contrary to the weather forecast, the weather was beautiful, and the latest bulletin seemed to contradict yesterday’s. So no escape to Toulon—I resumed my route toward Sainte-Baume. I left the hotel via a tiny road that, through ups and downs, led me via shortcuts to the road to Belgentier. My body had gotten used to intense daily efforts, and I felt in Olympic form. At a good pace, I launched into a long climb with a moderate slope. The road was busy, but fortunately, the side lane for cyclists often made the exercise more pleasant. The villages rolled by—Méounes, La Roquebrussanne. Near the latter, I observed a Tiger combat helicopter in training. It hovered motionless for long periods—perhaps the pilots were training to master their increasingly sophisticated weapon systems, requiring even more learning?

I left the busy road and headed via an almost deserted route toward the village of Mazaugues. The climbs became steeper. A long descent, and there I was in this pretty village. A grocery store, which besides selling a few ingredients also served as a café. I sat near the electric heater—it was cold, and I was sweaty. I watched customers come and go and listened to the shopkeeper tell me about village life. The name Mazaugues comes from "water mass," which is why drought doesn’t usually affect this area. Apparently, you can even find mushrooms here in summer! I had a good time, and as I was leaving, a local cyclist started a conversation and told me about her dreams of long bike trips, currently limited by her situation as a mother of terrible children. She settled for day trips with her club, which was already good in this very hilly region. I told her the story of a man who, at 73, cycled solo around Morocco. So no panic—she still had thirty or forty years to realize her wildest dreams!

I was warned that it would be a tough climb to reach Sainte-Baume’s northern slope. Indeed, over eight kilometers, the average slope was sustained, but the landscape was wonderful. Here too, water was streaming everywhere. I passed one of those famous icehouses that used to supply Marseille with ice throughout the year. This northern slope of Sainte-Baume is very cold, and this characteristic was exploited in previous centuries to produce ice. Large cylindrical structures, well-protected to the north and semi-buried, received large quantities of water in late autumn, which froze during winter and was kept cool for months until the following winter. Ice blocks were cut and delivered by cart to the city. That’s how, in ancient times, ice was available in summer to keep fish fresh in Marseille. Did pastis exist at that time? If not, the ice cubes must have been bored!

Once the climb was over, the long ridge of Sainte-Baume appeared, and I could see its characteristic antennas. Nestled at the foot of the cliffs, the magnificent millennial forest revealed itself with its autumn colors. I stopped at the monastery. I’d been there several times before and had even slept there during a long walking trip. The welcome had been first-rate by the Dominicans, especially the sisters in their long immaculate robes. They radiated a serenity that was very contagious. Don’t hesitate to stop there for the night. I struggled to get back on my way—some places have a special spirit.

I was soon at the end of my journey. I continued along this magnificent mountain to the Col de l’Espigoulier. To the north, another immense wave of white limestone rose—Montagne Sainte-Victoire, a high place in Provence that painter Cézanne made world-famous. Once at the pass, the entire city of Marseille spread out at my feet, the Mediterranean coast revealed itself from the Calanques to La Ciotat, passing by the famous Cap Canaille, Europe’s highest sea cliff. Above me, bathed in sunlight, Bartagne’s northwest face, very popular among climbers, showed all its reliefs. With an old climber’s reflex, I spotted the many climbs I’d done there. I let myself be carried into a steep, winding descent toward the village of Gémenos in a beautiful setting full of cliffs.

A few more kilometers of climbing toward the Col de l’Ange, then toward Roquefort-la-Bédoule. In this last climb, I raced with two cyclists, admittedly not very young. Then, in a six-kilometer descent, I reached Cassis station, the endpoint of my six-day journey through this wild Provençal land between sea and mountain. I experienced great pleasure during these 570 kilometers through these renowned yet wild French massifs. As always, when a beautiful project comes to an end, you feel a bit orphaned by a beautiful dream come true. You have to quickly envision the next one to avoid a vague sense of emptiness taking over. My next adventure is already taking shape in my mind, but that’s another story.

Bonjour,

Je souhaite partir avec un ami sur une dizaine de jour, en Egypte au Caire et nous souhaiterions visiter un peu à pied, est ce encore dangereux et est il envisageable de pousser jusqu'en Israel pour visiter Jerusalem ?

Merci d'avance de vos conseils

Alec

Quelqu'un a-t-il recement fait cette route?

Bonjour, Je suis actuellement en pleine planification pour un voyage direction la Mongolie et voir plus par la suite. J ai ici un camion Saurer 2DM 4x4 avec le quel je songeais faire mes périples, mais après discutions je songe le faire en véhicule tout terrain normal. J ai vu que les 3 marques souvent citées Toyota land cruiser, Nissan patrol et land rover reviennent souvent, mon père a actuellement une Toyota land cruiser TD 4 cylindre 3litres avec boite automatique de 1998 avec pompe d injection mécanique. Comme il désir bientôt changer de véhicule car il est maintenant a la retraite il me propose de me la vendre a bas prix pour faire mes voyages. Elle a toujours était soignée tout les service effectuer et arriver a 180*000km. J ai aussi en vu un Nissan patrol GR 2.8 TD qui me plait beaucoup et j ai aussi passer mon permis de conduire avec un tel véhicule. Je sais que la culasse est leurs points faible mais l anciens patrol de mon père a tenu 280*000km sans aucun problème avant qu’il ne la change pour le land cruiser. J ai aussi un collègue qui m a parlé de land rover série 109 idéal pour les voyages ou il ne faut pas d électronique j ai vu que pas mal de paysan les utilises mais autrement je ne connait rien de cette marque. Niveau transmission il vaut mieux une boite automatique ou une manuelle? Je sais que les deux ont des avantages comme des inconvenants niveau carburant je préfère le diesel mais peut on trouver facilement partout? L essence le problème c est les différent indice octane comme ici nous avons le 95 et si je désir aller en Amérique du nord c est du 71 je ne sais pas si le moteur va aimer beaucoup cela. En plus bonjours la consommation. Je vous remercie de vos avis, conseils, et autre renseignement pour que je puisses trouver le juste véhicule.

HELLO Mon ami honkongais m'a posé une question en voyant le forum: Pourquoi les étrangers aiment aller en chine???pourquoi il aiment la nouvelle chine? alors, pour ne pas répondre à votre place....(lol) je l'écris sa question! on attend vos réponses!!!!! oliwen

Bonjour à tous ceux qui me liront.

De voyages en vagabondages . .... voila que le temps de se poser arrive !. Avec une possibilité de rebondir ensuite, faire des courts séjours " ailleurs " toujours.. mais avec un point de chute perso : " entre deux voyages ". Pour bien des raisons bonnes ou non, ce sera en France.!!!

Aussi, l'ayant quitté pendant longtemps je ne sais vraiment pas OU m'installer ? Je n'ai pas d'apriori régional , me sentant citoyenne d'un peu partout , d' ici ou là.

Pas de grande ville. plutôt moyennne. pas au milieu de rien non plus, un bel endroit de vie , des possibilités d'activités diverses , une population mélangée , du social du culturel, des associations multiples, piscine, médiathèque .... c'est pas trop non ??

A tous ceux qui ont eu dans leur vie " un coup de coeur ". pour quelque part.. A ceux qui vivent dans un environnement correspondant aux quelques idées citées!.

J'attends Tous vos messages , qu'ils soient sincères, que l'on puisse en discuter ensuite si possible. je suis impatiente . MERCI. MINGAN

Bonjour,

Juste quelques mots pour avoir des avis sur le sevrage de voyages du à l'arrivée d'un enfant.

Je vais être papa dans quelques jours et j'en suis très heureux. Néanmoins, je continue à passer les 3/4 de mon temps sur des sites, des forums, des centrales de réservation de billets d'avion, à comparer les prix pour un voyage qui me parait aussi probable que la venue de petits hommes verts.

Bref, je suis accro au voyage, et après des trips monstrueux avec mon sac à dos de part le monde, pour des durées - qui, si elles n'étaient pas non plus énormes : 1 mois tout au plus - qui me permettait de "déconnecter", j'ai du mal à imaginer que, pendant 20 ans, mes prochains voyages ne dépasseront pas les deux semaines, et que ce sera plus à quelques petites heures de vol qu'au fin fond de l'Asie ou de l'Amérique du Sud.

On a bien prévu un voyage de 10 jours pour se retrouver en tête à tête avec ma femme lorsque la petite aura 8 mois, mais on sera loin du voyage roots et d'une immersion totale (ce sera surement un gite à la Réunion ou en Guadeloupe). Pas de taxi brousse, de bemo, de guesthouse pleine de cafards, de galères et de rencontres au milieu de nul part. Juste la nécessité d'avoir du réseau téléphonique et la possibilité impérieuse de pouvoir être, en cas de souci, dans les 12 heures de retour en France.

Bref, j'ai le bonheur d'être papa, mais toujours ce manque récurrent, cette idée fixe qui me taraude : quand le prochain trip, où et surtout comment ?

Laisser bébé aux grand-parents et partir égoïstement ou prendre bébé avec nous et partir tout aussi égoïstement car elle n'en profitera pas...

Pas envie de ces atroces "fammily portrait" où des millions de neuneux prennent l'autoroute A7 pour descendre dans le Lubéron ou sur la Cote d'Azur, ou prendre un charter vers la Crête avec d'autres dizaines de milliers de neuneus qui vont au club de plage... Tous à la même période...

Je ne veux pas tomber dans le cliché et continuer à vivre le voyage tel que je le vivais avant. Des solutions, des idées, des suggestions pour y parvenir ou, tout simplement, faire le deuil du "backpaping" ???

Nous n'attendons pas tous la même chose des croisières... Chacun de nous a un cahier des charges bien précis de la croisière, en fonction duquel il ne choisira pas forcément les mêmes compagnies, les mêmes itinéraires... C'est d'ailleurs ce qui participe à la diversité des comptes-rendus où pour la même croisière certains seront satisfaits, d'autres moins...

En première intention, on peut classer les croiséristes avec la découpe "tourisme et découverte - repos et bien être" qui peut se classer en 5 grands groupes

100% + 0% : le "baroudeur" : tout pour la découverte... le bateau ? ça peut être un cargo, ou n'importe quel radeau... 80% + 20% : le "découvreur" : un max de découverte, terres nouvelles le plus souvent possibles 50% + 50% : le "visiteur" : il aime les excursions, mais part en croisière également pour se reposer, et aime "son confort" 20% + 80% : le "vacancier" : certes, il ira voir les choses les plus "représentatives", mais profitera aussi des escales pour apprécier un bateau moins rempli 0% + 100% : le "curiste" : il ne quitte pas le bateau, la vue depuis le bateau lui suffit, et il profite de tout sur le bateau..

Bien sûr tous les intermédiaires peuvent se voir, et la présence d'enfants complique forcément cette classification... 😛 et puis 'autres classifications sont peut-être possibles...

Moi, je me classerais bien (et Mme PAP aussi) dans la catégorie "visiteur". et ce n'est pas une question d'âge, à 20 ans, j'étais déjà comme ça... j'attends de la croisière confort, farniente, relations sociales (tant avec l'équipage qu'avec des passagers de rencontre), et une certaine prise en charge au niveau des visites et des excursions, ce qui me fait préférer, en dehors de tout élément financier, le "tout cuit" proposé par les armateurs, même si je sais que ce n'est pas l'optimal en termes de découverte... Mais ça a le bon côté qu'on peut revenir plusieurs fois au même endroit et avoir encore quelque chose de nouveau à voir...

et vous ?

Depuis le temps que je rêvais d'aller à Prague... Pour une fois, que des avis positifs de connaissances y ayant passé quelques jours, une ville romantique, magnifique, où il y a toujours quelque chose à faire.... Bref, nous voilà partis pour 6 jours... Je dois bien dire que si nous avions pu, nous serions revenus au bout du 4ème...

La ville est jolie et ne manque pas d'intérêt architectural sur un périmètre vaste.

Et c'est tout...

Je n'ai jamais rencontré de personnes aussi peu aimables, que ce soient les serveurs, le chauffeur du CEDAZ, les commerçants, les automobilistes (qui n'hésitent pas à forcer le passage dans une rue très étroite où un piéton est déjà engagé -moi en l'occurrence-) et forcément lui rabote les fesses avec le rétro et se fend péniblement d'un "pardon" tchèque par la vitre mais sans s'arrêter ni ralentir !!!

Au restaurant, c'est bien simple : plus tu consommes et moins tu passes de temps, mieux c'est... d'ailleurs on t'enlève ton assiette alors que tu as encore la main sur le couvert (arrivé plusieurs fois) et que pourtant le restaurant est loin d'être plein... Et bonjour la surprise au moment de l'addition, majorée de manière manuscrite d'un pourboire dont le patron vient exprès nous dire que "non, c'est pas obligatoire mais c'est l'usage, c'est comme ça c'est l'usage...." Si encore le service avait mérité un pourboire, pourquoi pas ? Mais vu que la serveuse ne comprenait même pas ce qui était écrit sur la carte "MONACO" et "ABSINTHE" et qu'on lui répétait, là je trouvais que ça devenait du vol.

Bon pour parfaire le tout, dès le premier soir nous avons eu la désagréable surprise d'avoir une erreur de plus de 100 kc sur notre addition. Je vous laisse deviner dans quel sens était l'erreur...

Nous avons eu le plaisir d'avoir quelques commerçants souriants, souvent d'origine étrangère, quel plaisir...

Je passe sur le fait d'être collé (il n'y a pas d'autre mot) dans les magasins par une vendeuse grincheuse et qui regarde ailleurs quand tu te retournes. Tu me pistes mais assume donc !

Bonne surprise quand même, l'hôtel (Chopin rue JERUSALEMSKA), la réception était souriante (enfin normale quoi) à part une employée du petit déjeuner certainement outrée de ses conditions de travail puisqu'elle n'hésitait pas à bousculer les clients et à essayer d'enlever les assiettes pas finies...

Bref on peut dire que ce voyage fut l'un des moins agréables de ceux que l'on a fait...nous avons presque eu un choc quand à notre retour, nous avons pris un café à CDG et que la vendeuse débordée nous a dit : "Bonjour merci au revoir" EN NOUS REGARDANT DANS LES YEUX !!! on en avait presque perdu l'habitude...

voilà, notre prochain voyage sera peut être à nouveau Vienne si on veut rester dans la même direction, sinon à nouveau le Sud, mais là, il faut vraiment qu'on efface ces derniers jours de nos souvenirs...

Salut a tous

Je vis au Vietnam depuis 1 an et demi, j ai travaille 8 ans en Asie dans les pays voisins, et je suis sidere par l inculture des jeunes. Je travaille dans une boite vietnamienne, 48 employes tous issus des universites. Avant hier j ai fais un test parce que a chaque fois que je parlais avec quelqu un de quelque chose j etais surpris par son manque de culture generale, par exemple impossible de parler musique si c est pas de la musique vietnamienne.

J ai pris 10 personnalites qui ont marquees le 20eme siecle, 10 photos que j ai presentees a mes collegues. Hitler, Che Guevara (image la plus reproduite dans le monde), Gandhi, les Beatles, Mao, Madonna, Bill Clinton, Mandela, Castro, Bob Marley.

Tres peu connaissait ces personnes. Certains apres 4 annees d etudes n ont reconnu aucun. D autres on reconnu Hitler mais ne savait pas qui il etait vraiment.

C est la premiere fois depuis que je vis en Asie que je vois ca. C est pour cela que des fois c est difficile de lier des liens avec des vietnamiens, de quoi peut on parler ? Je suis rester 2 mois avec une vietnamienne mais c etait le desert total au niveau echange, de quoi parler ?

Pourquoi le Vietnam est il une exception culturelle a ce point ?

J ai l impression qu il n y a pas vraiment une envie d ouverture d esprit.

Je vais faire un test demain sur l histoire vietnamienne, je vous tiens au courant.

Bonjour à tous,

Une enquête de BVA, réalisée à titre mondial, vient de mettre la France Premier pays pessimiste... et le Vietnam, premier pays pour l'optimisme et la foi en l'avenir ...😉😉😉je m'abstiendrai de tout commentaire et je laisse ce sondage, tout à fait sérieux, à la réflexion de tous :

Pour ce qui me concerne, cela explique sans doute, en partie, le bonheur de certains à découvrir le Vietnam.. et la désillusion d'autres - on ne réagit qu'en fonction de son "moi" interne sans doute 🙁

Quoi qu'il en soit, Bonne année 2011 à tous celles et ceux qui me liront ...... pourquoi ne pas aller jeter un clin d'oeil sur ce Pays qui est si "optimiste" ??😏😏

Cordialement - Kimtwo -

Bonjour

nous avons un mariuage à poznan le 23 24 juillet 2011 et nous voulons profiter pour essayer de passer 10 à 15 jours dans le pays pour y passer des vacances en famille.

plusieurs destinations nous ont été conseillées : cracovie les mines de sel zakopane gdansk kotobrzeg wroltaiw

mais??? peut on vraiment les faire avec des enfants? comment s'y rendre? en train? qu'est ce qui vaut le plus la peine

le but est de découvrir le pays mais sans passer tout son temps sur la route, nous voulons aussi profiter d'être en famille et se poser un peu!

Merci donc de me conseiller et de me donner vos avis! tout nous sera utile car nous n'avions jamais vraiment en-visagé de passer nos vacances d'été dans ce pays?? et comme ça representera sans doute un joli budget nous voudrions le faire que si ça vaut vraiment ma peine!!

merci